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They said there would be an “epic battle” with Doomsday too. Let’s hope they prove us wrong this time.

I really hope the “BATTLE” with Zod is not like 2mins long, want more of a fight for like 5-10mins or it will just suck like last season

Superzod, thank you for showing me what it sounds like when doves cry…..

sry Craig. But I didnt call him pathetic, just his reply. Because his reply was just an attack and not even the attempt of a rational discussion. I didnt mean he was pathetic, just that this form of reply was. And he insulted me too. He called me a dove.

yeah I dont like that either. Sadly, its not happening just in the Smallville/Superman-fandom but every fandom with a cult-following. My intention is not to attack or fight. I just am the kind of fan who expresses his opinion very strongly and (sometimes too) passionately but I always do with good points and arguments. You will never just hear me say “That sucks”. I will always give a reason. And I certainly didnt mean to attack a person or to start some stupid online-battle with other users. I was just expressing my view on these things as a dedicated fan of Superman and Smallville and for that I was called a dove. I certainly didnt come here, looking for a fight. I just have a strong opinion.

Thanks^^ Its good to know that they are also fans out there who get my points and understand what I am saying. After all most of it were facts anyway. I mean of course it would heve been freaking cool to have Clark and Doomsday brawl it out like Hulk and Abomination in “Incredible Hulk”. But first of all the show doesnt have the budget for that and second of all I think as a big fan of the Superman comics I would have disliked the scene if Clark would have been able to give Doomsday some serious hits of his own. It just would have totally messed up the history of those characters and would have heavily undermined Doomsdays status in the comics if Clark could already hurt him when he isnt even Superman yet (Since he barely did it at first in “Death of superman” and he was already Superman there!) We already saw in “Bride” when Clark actually TRIED to hit Doomsday that the beast was out of his league which in my opinion showed perfectly the sheer superiority of Doomsday and I am glad they didnt mess that up in the season finale just so they can show a spectacular mega-battle between those two. That battle WILL happen. But not on Smallville and it never should.

I can’t wait to see Smallville but there better be a whole lot of Clark/Lois. I couldn’t care less about what Chloe is doing since she is not his soulmate. All I want to see is more Clark and Lois!

If for legal reasons Batman and Wonder Woman cannot be shown, they should be mentioned. Otherwise, it is like watching an alternative reality Superman. He and Batman’s origins are only a year or so apart. For SV to evade that background is really not a true perception of the Superman story. As for Perry White and Martha Kent being a couple, I always thought Perry (being older & wiser) should have known Clark’s secret identity. Maybe this well prove to be a great storyline.

I agree with all of you. You said it best seamusberen :) And I like i that they are fans like plasticeye87 who really see the big picture of the entire superman mythology here. Thats exactly the point. How the hell could Clark even be in Doomsdays league if he isnt Superman yet. If this is about his path to becoming earths greatest superhero why should he be able to fight a villain like Doomsday now? If he could they should end the show right there cause then he must be Superman already. I mean what would be next? A fistfight with Darkseid? These are villains Clark isnt possibly a match against yet and I just dont understand why some “fans” expect that he would and are mightily pissed off if he isnt. Thankfully Smallvilles writers know better and really know their Superman mythology.

As of the plotholes you said it would creat in DCU canon, now many fans would argue that Smallville has done things very different from DCU canon in the past anyway. That always seems to be a big argument. Because those people still dont get how the show works. Smallville is basically a complete re-write of those 10 years before Clark becomes Superman. So they can change anything they want that takes place in that time-window as long as it doesnt clash with the major events and the way the characters are AFTER Clark is Superman. So actually the show doesnt violate the DCU canon. All the changes Smallville is making to the origin story (which even in the comics is revamped quite often anyway) are changes that take place before Clark is Superman. Thats why they can have Lois and Clark meet already in Smallville, thats why they can have Doomsday a fleshly shell called Davis Bloome, have Lois be with Green Arrow, have Clark meet Perry already during his teenage years, make Clark and Lex friends etc. Because it doesnt violate the main canon that takes place after Clark becomes Superman. Superman and Lex are gonna be big enemies, Lois will eventually marry Clark and learn his secret shortly before that, Green Arrow will be with Black Canary, Lois and Clark will be working with Perry and Jimmy at the Planet, Doomsday is only a superbeast with ho human shell and will kill Superman etc. The producers themselves stated that eventually SV is gonna align with the major comics canon. They only change things and do them differently in that time-window where Smallville takes place but eventually everything will line up with overall DCU continuity. Thats why Lois will never learn Clarks secret permanently on Smallville, thats why Lex never truly died, thats why characters like Clark, Lois, Lana, Oliver, Martha, Perry etc. will never be permanently killed off on the show. Smallville can do everything they want – as long as in the end of the show it will all line up with the overall DCU canon.

Thats what makes it so special. Something that has never been done before. Its a re-imagining of the 10 years before Clark Kent was Superman, a complete re-write of that time that in the end lines up with the overall DC canon of the comics (of course there can be minor differences here and there because there are so many comics out there and the writers cant really pay attention to every single last little thing that ever happened in the comics continuity)

And like seamusberen said, we should be thankful for the ride and the experience and should also be thankful to Craig for covering the show so well over all those years.

Up up and away!

Maybe you should read again what Craig said about how tiring it is that some people just need to start fights all the time. What were you trying to accomplish with that last post of yours? to provoke me? Color me provoked and get lost. Pu-lease.

@Superzod

First please excuse my dodgy spelling!

I totally understand where you are coming from with your original post and your comments about how Clark isn’t quite superman yet so he wouldn’t have been able to face off properly with Doomsday actually made sense from that angle. The problem I have is that, I don’t think that the writers made that really clear. Clark only “fought” Doomsday twice. The first time Doomsday swatted him like a fly. I think it would have been clearer if Clark had then maybe voiced his concern that he wasn’t a match for Doomsday. This I think would have put it into peoples minds that Clark isn’t fully developed enough to tackle such a lethal foe. The expectation then on the end fight wouldn’t have been so high.

Remember that not everyone who watches SV is a comic book fan or knows the history. They is one excellent reviewer on TV.com who’s opinion I really appreciate because he takes the program at face value. I realise that the majority of fans will be comic book fans but it wouldn’t be very business savvy to aim solely at them. Case in point is my hubby who had no prior knowledge of anything Superman (aside from the films) but loves Smallville. He hated the Doomsday ending because he thought it was anticlimactic, after reading that the end battle would be in their words ‘epic’ or (whatever word they used, i forget).

The buildup for Doomsday thought-out the season was fantastic. Most people will agree to that. So this put a certain level of expectancy in peoples mind and this is where the disappointment stems from. Having said that, the marketing team for SV often shoot themselves in the foot with all the things they say are going to happen and with some of the previews. Of course they have to generate interest for the show, but to be quite frank, some of it can be downright misleading. Remember the previews for Veritas or even Turbulence? Both made made it LOOK like Clark was going to fly. People can only take so much of that on a regular basis.

But to be honest Im one of those ppl who was disappointed with the conclusion of the Doomsday arc. With the final fight I wasn’t expecting lots of punches etc. but I was expecting it to be a bit longer. I completely agree with you that for the sake of money they couldn’t have a fight like at the end of the Matrix Revolutions. They could have had Clark regrouping, saving more people etc. any thing to show for longer that he was struggling. Couple of punches then a super leap into the underground furnace did to me come across as a tad lazy. Then Davis dying, Jimmy getting to be right for like 2 seconds and then dying and THEN not being the real Jimmy all contributed to a disappointing finale. And thats for someone who knows the mythos. Now imagine how someone who doesn’t would come away after watching that. Compare this with great ones like season 4’s Commencement. I didn’t really like season 4 because there wasn’t really much to do with the mythos in that season. Yet the finale was great. Then season 6’s Phantom. That fight was equally as short but simply done better, also they wasn’t a build up for Bizzaro he just appeared in the finale, but from the short fight you get a sense of how tough this foe is. Again reinforcing my point about Doomsday’s buildup.

So I think from my point of view has to been in the middle. I can watch it knowing the history but bear in mind that some others don’t. This may help at least understand why people seeming complain about things that to a fan are a little more obvious. Im sure many people understand that SV has a limited budget etc. but maybe then its a case of the PR, managing peoples expectations a little better.