Should Clark have apologized to Lex?

[superman_115]

What, taking up for Lana and Lex, OMG, I think Clark grew some balls finally or Lana gave them back and now he has some power to tell them off.

I can't wait until he is back on Red K and kicks some ass.

[KrissO]

Seems like all people want is the Superman suit and red k lol!

[RyanStray]

He shouldn't apologize for Lex's incompetence as a land owner. When was Lex gonna discover his farm was a cemetary--After half of the Mexican population of North America disappeared??!!

[TheSupaMan]

Clark and Lex are enemies now. There is no reason for Clark to come back and apologize like a little biatch. Seriously. It wasn't out of line.

[superpal1]

The final scene proves that Clark was right. He might not have gone about accusing Lex in the right way, but Lex was totally in the wrong. He allowed the farm to stay in operation knowing who and what it was run by. Clark should not apologize. Clark has reasons to not trust Lex anymore and it should be noted that in early seasons, Clark defended a lot of Lex's actions as a good friend should, before he realized that he was blinded by Lex, the way Lana is now.

[ragamuffin]

I think that tptb have just decided that we need to have a scene with Clark accusing Lex in every episode so that we are sure to understand that Clark and Lex are no longer friends. I personally don't think Clark should have had to apologize to Lex. Especially after finding out that Lex was exploiting Old MacDonald's abilities.

[ginnyfan]

Re: Should Clark have apologized to Lex?

Originally posted by KryptonX81
Now im personally in the group that feels that Lex isnt evil yet, so I may be a bit bias, but I think Clark's actions last night were way out of line.

He comes to Lex's mansion and accuses him of the mass murder of migrant workers, with apsolutly no evidence.

Sure Lex technicly owned the farm, but that has nothing to do with the actions that take place there. Now I dont know that much about farming, but from what I have heard it isnt uncommon for someone to sell a struggling farm to a bigger company, and set up an agreement where they still stay on the land and farm it, but the company collects some of the profits.

Clark didnt have any info or facts connecting the murders to Lex, and he made very severe accusations that turned out to be wrong. So shouldnt he apologize?

Nah. Clark's been doing this for three years now. Lex SHOULD HAVE known what that looney farmer was up to which is why he's so mad at his employee. Too often Clark has come to Lex about a problem only to find that it was funded by Luthorcorp. "Aqua" and "Cyborg" were instances where Lex didn't care about the well being of Clarks friends... well aquaintances/potential friends... So... Clark has a lot of reason to never give Lex the benefit of the doubt.

He'd be a fool to second guess himself when it comes to Lex. Clark should just go with his gut instinct.

ETA: I doubt even Jonathan Kent would apologize to Lex when he found out that there was slavery and murder going on at the farm Lex owned. The excuse "I didn't know." Just doesn't cut it. And it probably would have scored points for Lex in Clark's book (and made him more likely to apologize) if instead of being a flippant a** Lex had promised to look into it... and investigate Clark's claims.

[Tia]

umm no, just no

[heromyth]

no apology needed

No apology needed, not really.

Clark’s interrogational methods need work. He didn’t have a shred of proof and barged in unannounced and full of self-righteous indignation, again. Technically, Lex didn’t have explicit knowledge of the murderous ways of the farmer but since Luther Corp. funded the entire operation and chose the location due to the heavy concentration of meteor rocks in the soil, Lex bears the responsibility. Lex has killed before via hired thug proxy (like father like son) and he’ll kill again so Lex is in NO MORAL POSITION to object to Clark’s sloppy detective work or his laughably telegraphed accusations.

Moving on to the scene with Lana, does Clark need to apologize for that? Again, not really, Clark is absolutely correct. Lex is using the charitable project to launder his misdeeds and Lex is using Lana (I’ll concede that he does possess some genuine feelings for her) to temper, compliment, offset his dark side—and perhaps as a way of continuing to lash out at Clark. Lana’s character won’t be fully co-opted by Lex in the end. The Lana of the DC canon is a friend of Superman and knows his secret. The Lana of the extended prequel that is the Smallville series will eventually conform to the DC model. Clark’s derisive comments about Lex aren’t being well received right now but I believe that they are planting seeds of doubt within Lana that will be watered by the events to come. However, Clark should be careful not to antagonize Lana since his moronic handling of the dissolution of their relationship lead to Lana’s quasi-defection to the dark side, i.e. into the arms, and bed, of Lex. Clark’s suggestion that Lana’s a mere pawn in Lex’s evil schemes was in part true but underestimated Lana’s resolve to uncover the truth. Clark should have encouraged Lana to keep digging and asking questions, although that would mean that he’d be endorsing a modus operandi that would inevitably lead to her discovery of his true identity. Clark can’t urge Lana to see Lex for who he really is unless he’s willing to reveal himself to her. Lana deserves the truth from both men; their secrets have nearly resulted in Lana’s death several times.

Here’s the bottom line: if Lana leaves Lex it will be with the full knowledge of his sinister nature and if she discovers Lex’s true identity, the writers of the show will (in order to keep the Clark/Lex arcs running parallel in keeping with any classic hero/anti-hero narrative pairing) allow Lana to discover who Clark has been all along. The truth may initially devastate her (her parents died in the meteor shower bringing Clark to Earth) but Lana’s path to discovery has been intertwined with Clark’s for the entire series for that very reason—Clark’s entry literally thrust him into a new world while simultaneously obliterating Lana’s sense of belonging and familial security in this one. Their respective paths, to a degree, are running parallel as well. It is because of themes like this that Smallville, despite the intermittent cheesy episodes, is worth watching.

[ginnyfan]

Great post heromyth. Very interesting in regards to the Lex/Lana/Clark journeys.

[boywithbluehanger]

I don't know about everyone else but I'm so sick of hearing VERY similar dialogue with Lex and Clark when he comes in. I think AlMiles just want to keep banging into everyones heads that Lex and Clark are seriously enemies now but they're way too redundant about it.

Honestly it's at the point where I could lipsync what they will say!

Clark: "Lex why are you alowing blah blah to blah??! You're helping hurt many people by doing blah blah!"

Lex: "blah blah blah! And again Clark, what are you accusing me of this time? Blah blah I thought I told you. The days of you barging in my mansion are over...blah blah blah!!!"


I swear I feel like I've heard that at least 5 times already!

[ginnyfan]

^I think we are all tired of it. It's like they are trying to remind us that they haven't forgotten that Clark and Lex are supposed to be enemies now.

[D.M.A.]

Re: Re: Should Clark have apologized to Lex?

Originally posted by ginnyfan
Nah. Clark's been doing this for three years now. Lex SHOULD HAVE known what that looney farmer was up to which is why he's so mad at his employee. Too often Clark has come to Lex about a problem only to find that it was funded by Luthorcorp. "Aqua" and "Cyborg" were instances where Lex didn't care about the well being of Clarks friends... well aquaintances/potential friends... So... Clark has a lot of reason to never give Lex the benefit of the doubt.

He'd be a fool to second guess himself when it comes to Lex. Clark should just go with his gut instinct.

ETA: I doubt even Jonathan Kent would apologize to Lex when he found out that there was slavery and murder going on at the farm Lex owned. The excuse "I didn't know." Just doesn't cut it. And it probably would have scored points for Lex in Clark's book (and made him more likely to apologize) if instead of being a flippant a** Lex had promised to look into it... and investigate Clark's claims.

I agree wit their past experience clark doesn't need to forgive so easily

[98chase]

Re: Should Clark have apologized to Lex?

Originally posted by KryptonX81
Now im personally in the group that feels that Lex isnt evil yet, so I may be a bit bias, but I think Clark's actions last night were way out of line.

He comes to Lex's mansion and accuses him of the mass murder of migrant workers, with apsolutly no evidence.

Sure Lex technicly owned the farm, but that has nothing to do with the actions that take place there. Now I dont know that much about farming, but from what I have heard it isnt uncommon for someone to sell a struggling farm to a bigger company, and set up an agreement where they still stay on the land and farm it, but the company collects some of the profits.

Clark didnt have any info or facts connecting the murders to Lex, and he made very severe accusations that turned out to be wrong. So shouldnt he apologize?

Lex isn't evil? I think he is very much evil. He's like "in the closet". He knows he's evil, he just hasn't let everyone else know yet.

He kidnaps people, throws them in cells, and runs experiments on them. Seems pretty evil to me.

Also, lets not forget that Lex is supposedly "building an army". You can't do that over night, it takes a substantial amount of time. Building an army could be deemed as an evil act. He's been evil for a while now.

[Billy Jor-El]

I'm still surprised that Clark even gets into the mansion. This time he was escorted by a guard. What? "Hi, it's me the stakler/alien, I want to yell at the bald guy again." I thought Lex doesn't want him there, so how does he keep gaining access?

And ultimately, Clark is right. Lex knows more than he's telling, and certainly to Lana. Just where is her (empty) head gonna be when she finally discovers that Clark was right about Lex all along? Of course, is it Clark's place to lead Lana's life? Not. He let her go, so, dude, let her go.

Totally OT, but driving around the other day I saw a license plate that read "Kal El 4"......cool