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  • #16
    Watched it on HBO Nordic. Thought it was boring and nonsensical. Got so many problems with it, that I don't have time to go through them all.

    With this being set in 1984, when everyone around the world started making wishes, I thought to myself "is there anyone who wishes for a cure for AIDS?" You mean that in year three of the AIDS epidemic, nobody wishes for people with AIDS to be cured? (That's what my wish would've been.) No parents wishing that their kid, who is dying from cancer, to be cured? No one wishing for an abusive partner to stop hitting them? No abused child wishing for their suffering to stop? Nope, it's all "I want a million dollars or a car". You expect all the people with noble wishes to renounce their wish? What about someone (ex. a massive racist) with an extremely horrible wish? Would that person be willing to give up their wish?

    Speaking of 1984... why is it set in that year? Given that Lord reaches out to people via screens, it would make more sense for it be set in the present. Is it just to try to cash in on an 1980's nostalgia?

    Getting Steve back comes at the price of Wonder Woman's powers. If one wants to read something into it... it could be read as the film suggests that being in a relationship (specifically with a man) weakens a woman. Robs her off her strength. Making the whole thing into an anti-love/romance thing.

    The fact that Diana rapes the guy, whom Steve is possessing, has been noted by numerous people. And don't give me any "Oh, no man would refuse to have sex with Gal Gadot" crap. Not every man would want to have sex with her. If you think otherwise, you're wrong. All you can say is that YOU wouldn't mind having sex with her (and even then, you'd probably want to be awake during it. Thus being able to consent). You don't speak for all the billions of men in the world. Which includes groups like gay and asexual men, and men who are celibate (some for religious reasons) and so on. Maybe this dude only dates black or Asian women (which would mean that Diana is not his type).

    Gotta say, in the first film, Diana says a line that implies that she might own slaves. In this one, she commits a sex crime. Don't think I like this incarnation of Wonder Woman. And will likely not watch the third installment.
    Last edited by jon-el87; 06-05-2022, 08:59 PM.

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    • #17
      I saw this movie, a few days ago. Wonder Woman get her dead lover back, only to have to give him up to save the world. This movie about making wishes and how it almost mess up the world is a good message movie. It's not as great as her first solo movie, but it's not bad.
      Last edited by mbozzo; 05-28-2021, 06:26 PM.

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      • #18
        Patty Jenkins' Wonder Woman 3 is not moving forward at DC Studios, with the project said to be "dead" in its current form.


        The third film in the DC Universe's Wonder Woman saga is reportedly not moving forward at Warner Bros. Pictures and DC Studios.

        According to The Hollywood Reporter, multiple sources state that director Patty Jenkins' Wonder Woman 3 is "dead" in its current form. This news comes ahead of new DC Studios bosses James Gunn and Peter Safran's pivotal presentation to Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav regarding their multi-year plan for the DCU, which is expected to take place next week.

        THR reports that Jenkins recently submitted her treatment for Wonder Woman 3, which she co-wrote with Geoff Johns. However, DC's Gunn and Safran -- as well as Warner Bros. Pictures bosses Michael De Luca and Pamela Abdy -- broke the news to Jenkins that, as it stood, the Wonder Woman threequel did not line up with their new (though still developing) plans for the on-screen DC Universe. No decision has been made regarding what happens next.

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        • #19
          Last month WB had Henry Cavill go on Instagram and announce he will resume his role as Superman. He was so confident about it that he left Witcher. Now the rumor is that Gunn and Safran don't have any plans for DCEU characters (aside from the 2 movies already in post production - Flash and Aquaman 2). So now Cavill has embarrassed himself and walked out of a major role because the decision makers at WB change every month.

          That's not how you treat people. It's not Jenkins, Gadot or Cavill's fault that this studio is a f*ing cesspool.

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          • #20
            The take away from what’s happened is that Gunn and Sarfan are pretty much cleaning house with the DCEU/Snyderverse. It’s unfortunate that actors like Cavill and Gadot have been given the boot. The studio is an utter heap of a mess and the only way to really save it is to rebuild from the ground up.
            Last edited by darkphoenix21; 12-08-2022, 10:47 AM.

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            • #21
              New details regarding the cancellation of Wonder Woman 3 reveal Patty Jenkins opted to walk away due to disagreements with the studio over the script.


              New details regarding the cancellation of Patty Jenkins' Wonder Woman 3 reveal that Jenkins herself opted to walk away following disagreements with the studio pertaining to the film's script.

              The Hollywood Reporter recently broke the news that Wonder Woman 3 was "dead" in its current form. At the time, the outlet reported that Jenkins had recently submitted her treatment for the Wonder Woman threequel, which she co-wrote with Geoff Johns. New DC Studios bosses James Gunn and Peter Safran -- as well as Warner Bros. Pictures bosses Michael De Luca and Pamela Abdy -- reportedly then informed Jenkins that, as it stood, her story for Wonder Woman 3 did not line up with their new (and still evolving) plans for the DC Universe.

              According to a new report from Deadline, however, sources familiar with the situation say it was actually Jenkins who decided to depart the project after receiving notes on her treatment from the studio. The outlet says that Jenkins' pitch "had character arc problems which rivaled that of Wonder Woman 1984." Notably, while Jenkins' first Wonder Woman film from 2017 was met with widespread critical acclaim, its 2020 sequel, Wonder Woman 1984, had a harder time winning over critics.
              She also walked away from Thor The Dark World due to creative differences... and Rogue Squadron (again, because of creative differences). With WW1984, she was asked to cut the extended Themyscira sequence or the mall sequence, but refused to cut either. You know, perhaps Jenkins is a little bit of the problem.
              Last edited by jon-el87; 12-09-2022, 08:53 AM.

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              • #22
                I thought the movie was tolerable. The only question was that Max Lord relinquished his wish and all wishes that were made through him were cancelled. Why did (what's her name) lose her wish? She refused to surrender her wish and return back to her former self. She made her original wish with the stone, not Max Lord. She should still have her strength....maybe, not her Cheetah looks....which were given to her by Max Lord.

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