Movie did a good job of continuing off of the first 2 terminator movies. Thoroughly enjoyed it for what it was. Loved that we were introduced before the T-800 models showed up.
That being said?
The movies definately screwed themselves when it came to explaining time travel. The first movie deals with destiny and having to send Reese back to create John Connor. It is a loop and in that form of time travel theory is required to make the future happen the way it did.
In T-2 judgemend day shifted. This means that the time line theory in T-1 was thrown out the window. Why you ask? Because in T-1 they claim that Reese MUST be sent back to ensure that John Connor is born, however because he is sent back now Judgement day had shifted to a new date..... The problem with this is that if he was required to be sent back to bring John Connor to life and save Sarah Connor then it should have always happened in the way it did, and judgement day shouldn't have shifted and John Connor would have been born to be the savior of mankind. Because they shifted judgement day they jumped to a string theory form of time travel in which there is one reality and it can continually change depending on changes that are made by people sent back in time. As the viewer you are only privy to the true time line that you see on the screen, but in reality there can be an infinite amount of timelines that have made numerous changes to the timeline you are watching just so your timeline could exist.
The television show worked off of T-2 theory of time travel. Where people sent back have stable memories of what happened in their timeline, but just by being sent back they may have changed the future in small or large ways. Such as Andy Goode being killed and then never being alive when Jessie travelled back and altering the future. That way both Derek and Jessie had different memories about different events, both of them existed but neither of them remember events in the same way. This leaves ALOT up for interpretation and plot holes, but it is fundementally the best way to keep moving on a television show that deals in time travel.
T-3 seems to have been ignored on every level by both movies and television shows. May change for the movies and we may see some refferences come up in T-5 but we wont know till we see it.
Now on to T-4. The people who truly loved T-1 should truly love T-4, story wise I dont know what day judgementday happened, the only possible refference to this could be bounced back to T-3 but we don't know. T-4's time travel brings us back to T-1, it seems to completely ignore string theory time travel which, if it went by the string theory, John Connor would exist in this reality regardless of who he sends back to save his mother. Why? Because his past does not write his future. His future has already written his past. He exists which means that an alternate future sent reese back to save his mother and he was born. The only reason to send reese back would be if they found in this timeline that a terminator was sent back to kill his mother. But if Skynet understands that Kyle Reese is John's father then why bother sending a terminator back to kill Sarah? This is a game of chess, if you know a move isn't going to work, why bother?
I love time travel stories, and terminator really is one of the best examples that tries to deal with all the 'what if's' but I completely understand why they would cancel Terminator: SCC if they felt the movies would be harmed by its production, and the show was already losing its viewer base before the movies made more 'cannon' you can't explain John Connor's adolescence in an alternate timeline, and still keep everything lined up with the movies..... when the movies havent even been written yet.
That is the problem with this set up, they think the viewers can't tell the difference in alternate futures and how SCC was outside of the movies, and they might be right considering how many viewers they lost this season.
That being said?
The movies definately screwed themselves when it came to explaining time travel. The first movie deals with destiny and having to send Reese back to create John Connor. It is a loop and in that form of time travel theory is required to make the future happen the way it did.
In T-2 judgemend day shifted. This means that the time line theory in T-1 was thrown out the window. Why you ask? Because in T-1 they claim that Reese MUST be sent back to ensure that John Connor is born, however because he is sent back now Judgement day had shifted to a new date..... The problem with this is that if he was required to be sent back to bring John Connor to life and save Sarah Connor then it should have always happened in the way it did, and judgement day shouldn't have shifted and John Connor would have been born to be the savior of mankind. Because they shifted judgement day they jumped to a string theory form of time travel in which there is one reality and it can continually change depending on changes that are made by people sent back in time. As the viewer you are only privy to the true time line that you see on the screen, but in reality there can be an infinite amount of timelines that have made numerous changes to the timeline you are watching just so your timeline could exist.
The television show worked off of T-2 theory of time travel. Where people sent back have stable memories of what happened in their timeline, but just by being sent back they may have changed the future in small or large ways. Such as Andy Goode being killed and then never being alive when Jessie travelled back and altering the future. That way both Derek and Jessie had different memories about different events, both of them existed but neither of them remember events in the same way. This leaves ALOT up for interpretation and plot holes, but it is fundementally the best way to keep moving on a television show that deals in time travel.
T-3 seems to have been ignored on every level by both movies and television shows. May change for the movies and we may see some refferences come up in T-5 but we wont know till we see it.
Now on to T-4. The people who truly loved T-1 should truly love T-4, story wise I dont know what day judgementday happened, the only possible refference to this could be bounced back to T-3 but we don't know. T-4's time travel brings us back to T-1, it seems to completely ignore string theory time travel which, if it went by the string theory, John Connor would exist in this reality regardless of who he sends back to save his mother. Why? Because his past does not write his future. His future has already written his past. He exists which means that an alternate future sent reese back to save his mother and he was born. The only reason to send reese back would be if they found in this timeline that a terminator was sent back to kill his mother. But if Skynet understands that Kyle Reese is John's father then why bother sending a terminator back to kill Sarah? This is a game of chess, if you know a move isn't going to work, why bother?
I love time travel stories, and terminator really is one of the best examples that tries to deal with all the 'what if's' but I completely understand why they would cancel Terminator: SCC if they felt the movies would be harmed by its production, and the show was already losing its viewer base before the movies made more 'cannon' you can't explain John Connor's adolescence in an alternate timeline, and still keep everything lined up with the movies..... when the movies havent even been written yet.
That is the problem with this set up, they think the viewers can't tell the difference in alternate futures and how SCC was outside of the movies, and they might be right considering how many viewers they lost this season.
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