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I thought the debates started at 9?
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I hadn't factored in the debates. I'm thinking more that the GA origin stuff will entice the more casual viewers. That and I thought Plastique was a relatively strong episode as far as propelling the season arcs forward.jwm, You figure SV will get a little bounce from being scheduled against the debates? I think it might.Comment
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4.18 million is great, considering the competition it was against
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There was an interesting conversation going on at the ratings message board (PIFeedback). It seems that the CW was planning to end SV at the Upfronts, but last week, Dawn Ostroff herself called Marc Berman (the owner of that website) and told him that SV was not ending. Craig also gives some information.
The conversation begins with a post by Texas Bound on this page:
It continues over the next several pages.Comment
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Andrew, thanks for the info, I would have missed it! I'm glad it's on the side of NOT ending Smallville. I am impressed that DO thought Smallville important enough to call Marc Berman to clear it up. Also glad Craig commented. Rumors are so rampant, let's just keep nipping them in the bud!There was an interesting conversation going on at the ratings message board (PIFeedback). It seems that the CW was planning to end SV at the Upfronts, but last week, Dawn Ostroff herself called Marc Berman (the owner of that website) and told him that SV was not ending. Craig also gives some information.
The conversation begins with a post by Texas Bound on this page:
It continues over the next several pages.
Wonder how Craig knew KryptonSite was being misquoted? He seems to show up wherever he is mentioned!..... Super Powers, maybe?Comment
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Wow, that was interesting! And hurrah for Dawn saying that Smallville would NOT be ending. I might, just might, change my mind about her.Comment
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Well it's a good thing, but could be a bad thing. I've been saying for a while- and still am saying- that I want a season 9. I love my SV, and I dont want it to end! But only if TW signs on. On that thread, Craig said that they were possibly grooming Justin Harltey to become the lead replacement if TW doesnt sign. If they ever did that, I would be so so sad. Smallville needs to end with Clark Kent!Comment
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^Like I said in that thread, I don't care if they make JH the lead, just don't call it SV.
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I was surprised at that. Maybe she didn't want people to get scared and jump ship?
Wonder how Craig knew KryptonSite was being misquoted? He seems to show up wherever he is mentioned!..... Super Powers, maybe?
Could be, but I noticed he started posting last season, so he must keep an eye on it.
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People gave up mid season 5, check the plunging ratings. The start of season 5 did a reversal on bad season 4 ratings but after seasons 6 and 7 the numbers appear to have leveled off to the die hards. Unfortunately I'm in for the long haul to see how it FINALLY ends.
The good that seems to be coming out of this season is that Lois is not just a couple of boobs and putdowns. Erica has been excellent on screen and in her promotion of SV. I've always stated her character was brought on board too soon but NO one would have guessed we'd be here at season 8. Especially after the wReckoning episode.
Now, I'm ready for CLois to proceed to where we ALL know it's heading, just as long as it done well, very unlike the Chlark and Clana.
I do expect to see ratings in the 3's before long. What a fall from Hidden and Aqua. I'm not a comic buff so all these new characters are only FOTWs for me.
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Why, cause you think folks won't watch the debates? In my area, "SV" is scheduled at 8:00 and the debates start at 9:00, so I don't really have a choice to make... but, even if I did, I'd watch the debates & Tivo "SV".
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So, to compare:
Season 8:
"Plastique" - 4.18 (no final numbers, yet)
Season 7:
"Kara" – 4.586 (final numbers were 5.04)
Season 6:
"Sneeze" – 4.06 (final numbers were 4.05)
To me, this is pretty amazing. First of all, there's the fact that it's the 8th season and it gets almost zero promotion from it's network.
Not only is it holding up fairly well in comparison to previous years, it's even doing better than it did 2 years ago. And this in spite of series losing 2 of it's leads (MR and KK) and those fans more than likely did not tune in that only tuned in for MR and KK. So, this means that the vast majority of "SV" fans came back for S8 - not just the premiere, but the 2nd episode, and these fans had to come back not for Lex or Lana, but for the characters that exist in S8. (I have to believe that the majority came back for Welling/Clark.)
Anyway... my point is that I'm really happy with the ratings & it's no surprise that PS3 (and D.O.) are thinking of S9.Comment
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I just meant that nowadays it seems like the tv viewing audience in general has ADD, not just when it comes to Smallville. Not as many people commit for the long haul; once things lose their new, shiny, young luster then let's automatically discount it. It's like a typical Hollywood marriage nowadays. I'm grateful for the die hards, who stick it out despite all the bumps and unexpected forks in the road. By the time it ends, it'll be quite a ride. And yeah, exactly because of the ADD tv audience, a lot of people are probably amazed and confused that Smallville, a show about a comic book hero, is still around in it's eighth year and consequently we will see ratings in the 3's. And it's their loss because old does not automatically equate bad.People gave up mid season 5, check the plunging ratings. The start of season 5 did a reversal on bad season 4 ratings but after seasons 6 and 7 the numbers appear to have leveled off to the die hards. Unfortunately I'm in for the long haul to see how it FINALLY ends.
The good that seems to be coming out of this season is that Lois is not just a couple of boobs and putdowns. Erica has been excellent on screen and in her promotion of SV. I've always stated her character was brought on board too soon but NO one would have guessed we'd be here at season 8. Especially after the wReckoning episode.
Now, I'm ready for CLois to proceed to where we ALL know it's heading, just as long as it done well, very unlike the Chlark and Clana.
I do expect to see ratings in the 3's before long. What a fall from Hidden and Aqua. I'm not a comic buff so all these new characters are only FOTWs for me.Comment
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I don't know how the debates will affect ratings. SV will loose some viewers obviously but it's possible those viewers will be more than made up for by folks who typically watch one of the big networks Thursday nights and aren't interested in the debates. And like you mentioned the Eastern and Pacific times zones (which I'm guessing compromise about 80% of viewership) won't have to compete with them so whatever there is impact might be minimal.you think folks won't watch the debates?
I thought Sneeze came in at around 4.5."Sneeze" – 4.06 (final numbers were 4.05)Comment
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*Runs to check* I'm seeing 4.6 overnights and 4.52 finals in the Sneeze ratings thread.Comment
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