What the hell are TPTB doing to Chloe?

[colonyofcells]

If Chloe is still saving Clark, it is not all that bad.

[RedKRules]

Then how about matching Clark w/ Claire?

No, No, No, Clark needs someone like Nikki .... she´d beat him everyday ...

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Chloe Sullivan

The character that WAS central to the show Smallville itself besides Clark. She has been in nearly EVERY episode.

In high school she was editor of the Torch, the person who was at once a friend to Clark and the one who could expose his secret to the world. TPTB(The powers that Be) have purposely dumped on her character for years.

It started right after the Spring Formal Dance when Chloe's nightmare came true and Clark said he would not let it happen. Instead it did.

Get Clark and Chloe close together and then yank them a part. It was a sick game developed from that point on. I could list episode after episode of this happening.

FEVER, BLANK, VESSEL and so on.

It was like a joke. A sick joke on the fans of Chloe Sullivan and the man who is to become Superman.

We get some episodes that are beyond awesome like JUSTICE and then thrown back into Siberia Nuclear Winter with episodes like SLEEPER.

TPTB hold the yo-yo string and we are the yo-yos. Clois fans be warned, if TPTB are like this with Chloe Sullivan, if Allison leaves the show Lois will be their new target. Lois & Clark the TV show was all about getting Clark and Lois close and then yanking it away. They (Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher) however did it well and believably executed why they did not get together right away. I hold out no hope for Smallville.

Chloe Sullivan is an original character. When I saw her for the first time sitting and talking with Clark I had NO IDEA that she was going to become my favorite on the show. She was just Clark's friend who knew him well enough to predict his quirks. Like not being able to get within 10 feet of Lana Lang without making a fool of himself.

I loved that she was the one to investigate the mysteries of Smallville. The meteor capital of the world. The all the strange happenings after the meteor shower and discovering that the meteor rocks were giving the citizens of Smallville strange powers.

As time went on we discovered that Chloe had a crush on Clark. Episodes like RUSH made that clear. And started to tease us that Clark and Chloe MIGHT become a couple. That was just the yo-yo getting wound up.

Life went on. A new character was brought onto the show. Lois Lane. That as fine. Lex Luthor was already there, why not Lois too.

Then it happened. Chloe discovered Clark's secret. Right in front of her was the mystery of Clark Kent. Alicia Baker, who swore she would never reveal Clark's secret had shown Chloe Sullivan what Clark had been hiding for years.

Alicia did not know Chloe's character very well. She did not use her 'poison pen' to out Clark. Instead she waited for Clark to tell her himself. Which he never did. From that point on Chloe covered for Clark.

The Episode BLANK, made Chloe Sullivan even better to me, and Clark more like a bumbling fool when he did not realize that SHE KNEW. How could he not know. I mean, no memory, his mother was out of town, Pete wasn't there and the next thing he remembers is Chloe on the table strapped down with him protecting her. Can't get more obvious than that, that she was protecting him.

So Clark goes back to not caring if he was ignorant of who knew his secret. Life went on.

About this point Chloe Sullivan has saved Clark as many times as he has saved her.

The worst Chloe Sullivan and Clark Kent moment where they literally SHOW TPTB stringing us along is DEVOTED. Ugh, that was painful to watch. Everything yanked way by Clark's declaration. Just like that. That right there told me what TPTB thought of Chloe Sullivan next to Lois Lane. Worst than Trash, lower than scum, and can be dumped on every week.

Then we get ARRIVAL. Clark finds out that Chloe Sullivan has known his secret for a long time. Again we get a great episode HIDDEN where we get reeled in again. That lead up to the KISS in VESSEL. The string was TIGHT again. So close. Then ZOD happens and a new character joins the Smallville team. Jimmy Olsen. That yanked Chloe Sullivan way from Clark so fast and left Clark ALONE the rest of the season.

At this point the yo-yoers (TPTB) have messed up and the yo-yo is losing strength. It never reaches were it once did. Three quarters of the way (FREAK), half way (BIZZARO), then a quarter (TRAVELER). Yet the strength of the character is never the same again.

Lex Luthor now owns the Daily Planet, Chloe starts to loose her desire it seems to work at the Daily Planet. Her dream since day 1 and starts to go completely against her character. She is increasingly isolated. When was the last time she hung out with Lois Lane? Lois is now brought into play. Chloe is being faded out. A washed out has been and never was compared the MIGHT that is Lois Lane.

Chloe Sullivan's character is being destroyed to possibly set up the New Lois and Clark show. Maybe TPTB are just making what Chloe has feared her whole life finally a reality. That she will go crazy. That she has lost her mental faculties and has lost her mind in some delusion that is as bad as Lex Luthor. Like mother, like daughter. Chloe thinks that Clark is God, and that is why she is devoted to him.

Yep lose her mind and Clark would have to choose between seeing his catatonic girlfriend or his crazy best friend in an institution.

That would be so sad. All that development and investment in a character, just to flush it all down the drain.

To HELL with THAT! Unlike the Chloe the show is portraying I refuse to accept that is all there is. If she is not brought back on track, there will be those in the future that can and will help her character come alive again. She has been brought back twice from the dead. It can happen again after this character assassination.

~Rockgod30

I agree,
I think they don´t know what to do with her character, they never thought, she´d get this far, and be so known and loved ... they´re trapped .....

I only hope they do the right thing, and give her the end she deserves and earned through these years ...

[dru-zod2501]

Chloe Sullivan

The character that WAS central to the show Smallville itself besides Clark. She has been in nearly EVERY episode.

In high school she was editor of the Torch, the person who was at once a friend to Clark and the one who could expose his secret to the world. TPTB(The powers that Be) have purposely dumped on her character for years.

It started right after the Spring Formal Dance when Chloe's nightmare came true and Clark said he would not let it happen. Instead it did.

Get Clark and Chloe close together and then yank them a part. It was a sick game developed from that point on. I could list episode after episode of this happening.

FEVER, BLANK, VESSEL and so on.

It was like a joke. A sick joke on the fans of Chloe Sullivan and the man who is to become Superman.

We get some episodes that are beyond awesome like JUSTICE and then thrown back into Siberia Nuclear Winter with episodes like SLEEPER.

TPTB hold the yo-yo string and we are the yo-yos. Clois fans be warned, if TPTB are like this with Chloe Sullivan, if Allison leaves the show Lois will be their new target. Lois & Clark the TV show was all about getting Clark and Lois close and then yanking it away. They (Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher) however did it well and believably executed why they did not get together right away. I hold out no hope for Smallville.

Chloe Sullivan is an original character. When I saw her for the first time sitting and talking with Clark I had NO IDEA that she was going to become my favorite on the show. She was just Clark's friend who knew him well enough to predict his quirks. Like not being able to get within 10 feet of Lana Lang without making a fool of himself.

I loved that she was the one to investigate the mysteries of Smallville. The meteor capital of the world. The all the strange happenings after the meteor shower and discovering that the meteor rocks were giving the citizens of Smallville strange powers.

As time went on we discovered that Chloe had a crush on Clark. Episodes like RUSH made that clear. And started to tease us that Clark and Chloe MIGHT become a couple. That was just the yo-yo getting wound up.

Life went on. A new character was brought onto the show. Lois Lane. That as fine. Lex Luthor was already there, why not Lois too.

Then it happened. Chloe discovered Clark's secret. Right in front of her was the mystery of Clark Kent. Alicia Baker, who swore she would never reveal Clark's secret had shown Chloe Sullivan what Clark had been hiding for years.

Alicia did not know Chloe's character very well. She did not use her 'poison pen' to out Clark. Instead she waited for Clark to tell her himself. Which he never did. From that point on Chloe covered for Clark.

The Episode BLANK, made Chloe Sullivan even better to me, and Clark more like a bumbling fool when he did not realize that SHE KNEW. How could he not know. I mean, no memory, his mother was out of town, Pete wasn't there and the next thing he remembers is Chloe on the table strapped down with him protecting her. Can't get more obvious than that, that she was protecting him.

So Clark goes back to not caring if he was ignorant of who knew his secret. Life went on.

About this point Chloe Sullivan has saved Clark as many times as he has saved her.

The worst Chloe Sullivan and Clark Kent moment where they literally SHOW TPTB stringing us along is DEVOTED. Ugh, that was painful to watch. Everything yanked way by Clark's declaration. Just like that. That right there told me what TPTB thought of Chloe Sullivan next to Lois Lane. Worst than Trash, lower than scum, and can be dumped on every week.

Then we get ARRIVAL. Clark finds out that Chloe Sullivan has known his secret for a long time. Again we get a great episode HIDDEN where we get reeled in again. That lead up to the KISS in VESSEL. The string was TIGHT again. So close. Then ZOD happens and a new character joins the Smallville team. Jimmy Olsen. That yanked Chloe Sullivan way from Clark so fast and left Clark ALONE the rest of the season.

At this point the yo-yoers (TPTB) have messed up and the yo-yo is losing strength. It never reaches were it once did. Three quarters of the way (FREAK), half way (BIZZARO), then a quarter (TRAVELER). Yet the strength of the character is never the same again.

Lex Luthor now owns the Daily Planet, Chloe starts to loose her desire it seems to work at the Daily Planet. Her dream since day 1 and starts to go completely against her character. She is increasingly isolated. When was the last time she hung out with Lois Lane? Lois is now brought into play. Chloe is being faded out. A washed out has been and never was compared the MIGHT that is Lois Lane.

Chloe Sullivan's character is being destroyed to possibly set up the New Lois and Clark show. Maybe TPTB are just making what Chloe has feared her whole life finally a reality. That she will go crazy. That she has lost her mental faculties and has lost her mind in some delusion that is as bad as Lex Luthor. Like mother, like daughter. Chloe thinks that Clark is God, and that is why she is devoted to him.

Yep lose her mind and Clark would have to choose between seeing his catatonic girlfriend or his crazy best friend in an institution.

That would be so sad. All that development and investment in a character, just to flush it all down the drain.

To HELL with THAT! Unlike the Chloe the show is portraying I refuse to accept that is all there is. If she is not brought back on track, there will be those in the future that can and will help her character come alive again. She has been brought back twice from the dead. It can happen again after this character assassination.

~Rockgod30

*applause* *applause* beautiful. so true... this sick game has worn on my nerves for far too long. This is the first time I've ever seriously considered stopping watching. At this point it's not even about chlark any more, it's about respecting Chloe and giving her exactly what she deserves, which obviously TPTB could give a crap less about... sigh...

[DGirlLois4Clark]

Come on guys, what do u expect. Unlike alot of the characters on the show they CREATED Chloe's character and therefore can do whatever they please with her. I hate to be brutal but, the character's future is one of the only unclear ones and non canon. U guys should be grateful that they have written her character so well, over the years.

Who do you think wrote her initial storylines to begin? Who wrote all the things you love about the character? They DIDNT HAVE TO MAKE HER JOIN THE DP, THEY DIDNT HAVE TO MAKE HER CLARK'S CONFIDANTE OR ANYTHING ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. And yet they did, to satisfy her fans.

You guys have to understand that they need to write the character off soon because, we all know Superman doesnt have Chloe in the future. Neither is she mentioned or involved in future events. Enjoy the ride cuz really and truely, it has always been clear that she was ONLY a prototype of Lois Lane (since they couldnt have her, initially). They CREATED her to move the story along and connect certain things. Chloe was created to be an ultimate plot device/ connector. Sorry bt its the truth. (e.g. Lois coming to town, Introducing Clark and Lois to journalism/ DP, Introducing Jimmy, Finding and locating things for Clark, explaining things to the viewer..etc)

IMO, the writers have a beginning and an end for each and every character. Im sure whatever they do in the end with her character is going to be what they originally planned. I know this for sure

[Kalista]

That is a great post Rockgod30!

[chlo-el]

Come on guys, what do u expect. Unlike alot of the characters on the show they CREATED Chloe's character and therefore can do whatever they please with her. I hate to be brutal but, the character's future is one of the only unclear ones and non canon. U guys should be grateful that they have written her character so well, over the years.

Who do you think wrote her initial storylines to begin? Who wrote all the things you love about the character? They DIDNT HAVE TO MAKE HER JOIN THE DP, THEY DIDNT HAVE TO MAKE HER CLARK'S CONFIDANTE OR ANYTHING ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. And yet they did, to satisfy her fans.

You guys have to understand that they need to write the character off soon because, we all know Superman doesnt have Chloe in the future. Neither is she mentioned or involved in future events. Enjoy the ride cuz really and truely, it has always been clear that she was ONLY a prototype of Lois Lane (since they couldnt have her, initially). They CREATED her to move the story along and connect certain things. Chloe was created to be an ultimate plot device. Sorry bt its the truth. (e.g. Lois coming to town, Introducing Clark and Lois to journalism/ DP, Introducing Jimmy, Finding and locating things for Clark, explaining things to the viewer..etc)

IMO, the writers have a beginning and an end for each and every character. Im sure whatever they do in the end with her character is going to be what they originally planned. I know this for sure

How can you know that for sure when so much has changed and Al Miles are leaving.

[A_Chloe.S._Fan]

i love chloe, but i hate what the writers r doing 2 her. i think clark's secret has made her completely oblivious 2 everything but protecting him, and the writers r trying to emphasize that more than it actually is true. no matter what though, i'll always luv chloe no matter how much they screw her up!!

[DGirlLois4Clark]

@ Chlo-el: Well, think about it this way. Every story has a beginning and an end.
With smallville..
Clark becomes Superman
Lex becomes Evil
Clana will ultimately end
Lois will become a star reporter..etc


The point of smallville was to show the journey / Tell a story. How and Why each of these characters become who they eventually become. Its almost impossible to write a good story if you dont have a clear view of its ending. Try write a story with no indication of its ending and you will see what I mean.

[go_clo]

btw what are we discussing again ?

We were discussing something else? Well we are in the Smallville forum...so it must be that....whats Smallville again?!

Then how about matching Clark w/ Claire?
And best of all, match that crazy Lana w/ insane Sylar. That's a perfect couple

I can't see Clark and Claire together....However I can't completely write them off as a bad character. At least Clark wouldn't have to worry about hurting her!

OMG Lana and Sylar! I could sooo see that!

No, No, No, Clark needs someone like Nikki .... she´d beat him everyday ...

Definately! She could maybe slap some sense into that BDA skull of his!

Come on guys, what do u expect. Unlike alot of the characters on the show they CREATED Chloe's character and therefore can do whatever they please with her. I hate to be brutal but, the character's future is one of the only unclear ones and non canon. U guys should be grateful that they have written her character so well, over the years.

Who do you think wrote her initial storylines to begin? Who wrote all the things you love about the character? They DIDNT HAVE TO MAKE HER JOIN THE DP, THEY DIDNT HAVE TO MAKE HER CLARK'S CONFIDANTE OR ANYTHING ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. And yet they did, to satisfy her fans.

You guys have to understand that they need to write the character off soon because, we all know Superman doesnt have Chloe in the future. Neither is she mentioned or involved in future events. Enjoy the ride cuz really and truely, it has always been clear that she was ONLY a prototype of Lois Lane (since they couldnt have her, initially). They CREATED her to move the story along and connect certain things. Chloe was created to be an ultimate plot device/ connector. Sorry bt its the truth. (e.g. Lois coming to town, Introducing Clark and Lois to journalism/ DP, Introducing Jimmy, Finding and locating things for Clark, explaining things to the viewer..etc)

IMO, the writers have a beginning and an end for each and every character. Im sure whatever they do in the end with her character is going to be what they originally planned. I know this for sure

You give the writers way too much credit. They aren't Amy-Sherman Palladino. They haven't had the last 2 lines of the show planned since day 1! I really don't think they knew what the end plan was and even if they did, they are now gone! Things have changed and that can either be really great or really bad for our girl friday!

Rockgod30 Amaaaaazing post! Seriously awesome! I totally agree with every single word!

[chlo-el]

Well, think about it this way. Every story has a beginning and an end.
With smallville..
Clark becomes Superman
Lex becomes Evil
Clana will ultimately end
Lois will become a star reporter..etc


The point of smallville was to show the journey. How and Why each of this character becomes who they are. Its almost impossible to write a good story if you dont have a clear view of its ending. Try write a story with no indication of its ending and you will see what I mean.

I agree that they had a plan from the begining for every charcter and this was to show their journey from who they were to who they would become but I don't think that they knew what they were going to do with Chloe from the begining and I doubt they were planning on Having Chloe's character end up in [SPOILER]Jail [/SPOILER]I mean if this show was about the journey and end at the destination and Chloe's journey would end at [SPOILER]jail.[/SPOILER] I doubt they planned on doing that from the begining.

Oh and I have written stories w/ no indication of the ending at first and I have been able to write pretty good stories they evolved and changed as the story went on. I think the best stories are the ones that evolve and are susprsing and are not what you expect.

[go_clo]

I agree that they had a plan from the begining for every charcter and this was to show their journey from who they were to who they would become but I don't think that they knew what they were going to do with Chloe from the begining and I doubt they were planning on Having Chloe's character end up in [SPOILER]Jail [/SPOILER]I mean if this show was about the journey and end at the destination and Chloe's journey would end at [SPOILER]jail.[/SPOILER] I doubt they planned on doing that from the begining.

Oh and I have written stories w/ no indication of the ending at first and I have been able to write pretty good stories they evolved and changed as the story went on. I think the best stories are the ones that evolve and are susprsing and are not what you expect.

Agreed!
Besides, even if this was their plan all along, I still have absolutely no respect for them what-so-ever. They lead us on like this, make us love this character to death just to end with our fave character [SPOILER]in prison[/SPOILER]! They are pretty horrible people to keep stringing us on like this throwing us crumbs, just to throw a bolder at us in the end!

[DGirlLois4Clark]

^ yea, but your speakin from a reader's perspective. Every writer has an indication of where they want to end their story. Of course they can pro-long certain things and developments in between. E.g. Look at Lionel..im sure they have always had it in mind who kills him. What the writers probably left open to change is what leads Lex to kill his father. Not sure if you get my point.
Another example is, we all know Clana fails but what is left open to change is what leads to it. And another, Lois becomes a reporter but how did it happen.

As a fan of the show, i truely hope they give Chloe a great sending off, if she in fact doesnt return for season 8. She has become a valued character and deserves the best. They can actually have her become a hero

[Rockgod30]

**Super-punches boulder**

Think about this for a moment. Let us say that Chloe is made out to be [SPOILER]CRAZY[/SPOILER] and that is the reason she gets [SPOILER]Locked up[/SPOILER].

This would seriously suck as an ending for her character. It is too late to paint Chloe as bad, flawed, or not worthy of Clark character or worthy character to exist in the SUPERMAN universe PERIOD. Like I said before the episode DEVOTED drew the line on how far the Chloe/Clark relationship would go. Even though they (TPTB) teased us with the MAYBE factor. Back-pocket girl indeed.

It is TPTB's own fault for making her so cool (WATCHTOWER), only for us to see blantant sabotaging now.

It is unfair, cruel, malicious and makes me not want to watch ANYTHING on the CW.

You don't take a character that has made such a positive difference in the world. A smart, independent, career driven woman, and then tear her to pieces after saving the world a few times. What type of message is the story trying to get across?

Abandon your friends when the going gets tough (Pete). That you will only get hurt and driven insane if you try to find out the truth (Lex), you have to break your own heart over and over again to show the one you love that you care about their happiness above your own (Chloe), and by actually being with the one you love you get hurt repeatedly to the point you are tortured mercilessly (Lana). And more.... Martha, Johnathan, Lionel, Jor-El, Lara, Kara, and others.

It is decending into drivel. It is sad and only the brief moments of Clark stepping up, or Chloe being a hero in tough situations makes the show worth it to watch.

Silly little scenes like dressing up Clark in a suit with glasses, or putting a Daily Planet badge on him (done that already), sweeping the heroine off her feet, making the last minute save, are they just going to repeat it all over again?

If this is a journey, is Clark ready at this point to be Superman? He has made A LOT of mistakes, but has he accepted that he needs to be something more than just mild-mannered?

Chloe has been pushing him from Day 1 to be better, reach higher, become stronger than trying to fit in to a normal life. Clark tries to be normal everyday out of fear. Fear of being discovered, fear of is abilities, fear of hurting anyone, fear of failure, fear, fear, fear, but, but, but until he has NO CHOICE except to do the right thing.

It took Jor-El recently showing Clark how bad the world needs him in the face of such evil like Brainiac and Lex Luthor.

How is bringing in new Villains going to somehow change his perspective if it hasn't already?

In the Superman mythos, it was the death of his father, Johnathan that prompted Clark to seek out a direction in his life to be more than just a regular man with special abilities. This time in Smallville when his father died, it made Clark regress. He folded in on himself. It wasn't until after ignoring events with the stones became impossible that he did something about it. Again it was Chloe to save the day and prevent Lex from finding out about his secret, and save the world.

It is so hard to watch Chloe get mutilated.

The image of her on Lex's computer screen in FREAK, being pricked, kidnapped KGB style, tortured, tagged and mind-wiped is how she is being treated right now. Exactly how she is being treated.

Again showing why the character of Chloe Sullivan is so AWESOME is when she begged Clark to scan her then take the device implanted in her out. That was INTENSE! It was COOL! And BRAVE! It showed complete trust. Yet all of that means NOTHING! All a part of the yo-yo, the tortured, tragic life that is Chloe Sullivan.

Life is unfair. Especailly for Chloe. It is shown that without Clark in her life she is happy. Never knowing him her life was whole and well, but she wasn't given a choice. If she knew all the amazing things she would do and see and know, which life would Chloe Sullivan choose? A life with George, peaceful, somewhat exciting, living her dream job, and about to be married. Or would she choose saving the world, being there for her friends, to protect them, keep the world safe from Lex Luthor, Brainiac, and other evil people in the world. Would she choose to be friends with Oliver Queen, and AC and Vic, and Bart?

The Chloe Sullivan we know would choose to give up all that happiness in order to make a differnece in the world. That is just who she is. It would even save George, where ever he is in the real world of Smallville, as well.

So assissinating her character makes little sense. It is too late. There is an AMAZING character that has existed for seven years. Even if they finally get rid of her or kill her off, again it is too late.

~Rockgod30

[LexLuv180]

I guess I'm the only one who thinks Chloe's development is still fine.

[Krypton935]

I guess I'm the only one who thinks Chloe's development is still fine.

No youre not I htink shes great I saw nothing wrong with her whatsoever