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  • #61
    Originally posted by ClarkyBoy14
    I wish people would stop saying that, since the numbers are down, it proves that SV sucks. Yes, it's your opinion, but stop pointing at the ratings.
    I'm not saying that the ratings prove that the show sucks. The show sucking is lowering the ratings.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by lois_lane-kent
      I'm not saying that the ratings prove that the show sucks. The show sucking is lowering the ratings.
      Wow, that's so much different.

      And congratulations on proving you know very little about ratings and ratings trends!

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      • #63
        Actually, it is.

        And how does it prove that? I'm not the one who brought up the tv.com/imdb fan ratings as evidence...

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        • #64
          Originally posted by ClarkyBoy14
          I wish people would stop saying that, since the numbers are down, it proves that SV sucks. Yes, it's your opinion, but stop pointing at the ratings.

          Only a complete idiot would expect a show in its seventh season to get the same numbers that it got in its earlier years. Especially a show that has switched networks, going to a weaker network, no less.

          Also, anyone who spends a millisecond looking at ratings trends realizes that almost every single show takes a hit during spring, especially 8PM shows.


          I guess I am in idiot side of things. I guess I would hope the show would be getting better and better after each year but what do I know, I am an idiot I have always wondered what my problem was but now I do! Thanks Andrew

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          • #65
            Stats show that over time ratings go down for any show. Lost is a perfect example. It a VERY popular show and VERY good. But look at Lost's ratings.

            Lost season average ratings:

            Season 1 - 16.1 million
            (went DOWN)
            Season 2 - 15.5 million
            (went DOWN)
            Season 3 - 14.6 million
            (went DOWN)
            Season 4- 13.3 million (for now, there'll be more episodes)


            Smallville however goes up and down.

            Smallville season average ratings:

            Season 1 - 5.9 million
            (went UP here)
            Season 2 - 6.3 million
            (went down here)
            Season 3 - 4.9 million
            (went down here)
            Season 4 - 4.4 million
            (went UP here)
            Season 5 - 4.7 million
            (went down here CW transfer and availability for a new network affected this IMO)
            Season 6 - 4.1 million
            (went UP, for now)
            Season 7 - 4.2 million (with adding DVRs otherwise it's 4.8 million)

            Season 7 overnight Ratings
            1. Bizarro............5.18 million*
            2. Kara................4.59 million*
            3. Fierce..............4.82 million*
            4. Cure................5.18 million*
            5. Action..............4.65 million*
            6. Lara................4.38 million*
            7. Wrath..............4.64 million*
            8. Blue.................4.51 million*
            (HUGE BREAK because of WGA strike here because all was above 4 million before)
            9. Gemini.............3.71 million*
            10. Persona............3.81 million*
            11. Siren.................4.01 million*
            12. Fracture..............3.67 million*
            13. Hero...................3.81 million*
            14. Traveler...............3.44 million*
            15. Veritas.................3.86 million*
            16. Descent................3.49 million*

            Season average - 4.2 million


            Season 7 ratings WITH DVRs (WOAH! lol ALL EPISODES OVER 4 million)

            1. Bizarro.............5.59 million*
            2. Kara................5.04 million*
            3. Fierce..............5.20 million*
            4. Cure................5.61 million*
            5. Action..............5.08 million*
            6. Lara................4.75 million*
            7. Wrath..............5.12 million*
            8. Blue.................4.90 million*
            (almost 5 million/episode until the long break because of WGA Strike)
            9. Gemini.............4.05 million*
            10.Persona............4.34 million*
            11. Siren...............4.53 million*
            12. Fracture...........4.18 million*
            13. Hero................4.40 million*
            14. Traveler...........4.13 million*
            15. Veritas.............4.39 million*
            16. Descent................. ? (it'll come out in a few weeks)

            Season average (without Descent) - 4.8 million

            ----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

            Originally posted by lois_lane-kent
            Actually, it is.

            And how does it prove that? I'm not the one who brought up the tv.com/imdb fan ratings as evidence...
            Those weren't viewer ratings. Those were just a rating out of 10 for each episode from IMDB and TV.com, not VIEWER RATINGS for Nielsen reports.
            Last edited by TheLastKryptonian; 04-21-2008, 02:57 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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            • #66
              At least Season 7 is doing better than Season 6, hopefully Season 8 can reboot its ratings higher.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by TheLastKryptonian
                Those weren't viewer ratings. Those were just a rating out of 10 for each episode from IMDB and TV.com, not VIEWER RATINGS for Nielsen reports.
                I'm aware of that. That was my point... (Where did I say "viewer ratings"?)

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by lois_lane-kent
                  Actually, it is.

                  And how does it prove that? I'm not the one who brought up the tv.com/imdb fan ratings as evidence...
                  Uh... nor was I. But they're just about as reliable as Nielsen ratings considering Nielsen only uses a very small percentage of Americans to guess the amount of viewers for each show.

                  ----- Added 8 Minutes later -----

                  Originally posted by Mackdaddy
                  I guess I would hope the show would be getting better and better after each year
                  Quality wise, SV has been getting better and better, IMO. But you can't expect a scripted show in its seventh season to be getting the same numbers it had in its earlier seasons. No matter how good a show is, people will lose interest over the years (Lost, Heroes, Supernatural, and Desperate Housewives are down, just to name a few). Also, it's harder for people to jump onto old shows.

                  ----- Added 11 Minutes later -----

                  And not only that, but SV has had to switch to a new, weaker network... a network whose focus is on shows like Gossip Girl.
                  Last edited by ClarkyBoy14; 04-21-2008, 03:33 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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                  • #69
                    The Final rating for Descent is 3.61 the 3.49 was the fast nat'ls.

                    I guess some posters think Smallville sucks and others don't. I personally, absolutely love Smallville, all 7 Seasons. Lower or higher ratings will not change that! I still enjoy following the ratings and it makes me happy when they go up!
                    Smallville still has very loyal fans, even some who say it sucks and watch anyway.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by SparkleforSmallville
                      Smallville still has very loyal fans, even some who say it sucks and watch anyway.


                      Thats me. I may not like it as much as I use to but I still watch it.

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                      • #71
                        haha i boycotted it four a couple years after the wb cancelled Angel but season 5 was getting some hype and James Marsterse was On so i tune back in...I'm glad I did

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                        • #72
                          It doesn't matter too much, old seasons of Smallville are on loads of networks, in the uk alone its on 2 networks, itv netweork for seasons 1-3 and channel four network for seasons 4 + (7 has yet to start).


                          Believe me, just because in the states smallville hasn't got awsome ratings anymore doesn't mean that the show as a whole isn't making a hell of a lot of money. I shouldn't loose any sleep over it.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by TheLastKryptonian
                            Stats show that over time ratings go down for any show. Lost is a perfect example. It a VERY popular show and VERY good. But look at Lost's ratings.

                            Lost season average ratings:

                            Season 1 - 16.1 million
                            (went DOWN)
                            Season 2 - 15.5 million
                            (went DOWN)
                            Season 3 - 14.6 million
                            (went DOWN)
                            Season 4- 13.3 million (for now, there'll be more episodes)


                            Smallville however goes up and down.

                            Smallville season average ratings:

                            Season 1 - 5.9 million
                            (went UP here)
                            Season 2 - 6.3 million
                            (went down here)
                            Season 3 - 4.9 million
                            (went down here)
                            Season 4 - 4.4 million
                            (went UP here)
                            Season 5 - 4.7 million
                            (went down here CW transfer and availability for a new network affected this IMO)
                            Season 6 - 4.1 million
                            (went UP, for now)
                            Season 7 - 4.2 million (with adding DVRs otherwise it's 4.8 million)

                            Season 7 overnight Ratings
                            1. Bizarro............5.18 million*
                            2. Kara................4.59 million*
                            3. Fierce..............4.82 million*
                            4. Cure................5.18 million*
                            5. Action..............4.65 million*
                            6. Lara................4.38 million*
                            7. Wrath..............4.64 million*
                            8. Blue.................4.51 million*
                            (HUGE BREAK because of WGA strike here because all was above 4 million before)
                            9. Gemini.............3.71 million*
                            10. Persona............3.81 million*
                            11. Siren.................4.01 million*
                            12. Fracture..............3.67 million*
                            13. Hero...................3.81 million*
                            14. Traveler...............3.44 million*
                            15. Veritas.................3.86 million*
                            16. Descent................3.49 million*

                            Season average - 4.2 million


                            Season 7 ratings WITH DVRs (WOAH! lol ALL EPISODES OVER 4 million)

                            1. Bizarro.............5.59 million*
                            2. Kara................5.04 million*
                            3. Fierce..............5.20 million*
                            4. Cure................5.61 million*
                            5. Action..............5.08 million*
                            6. Lara................4.75 million*
                            7. Wrath..............5.12 million*
                            8. Blue.................4.90 million*
                            (almost 5 million/episode until the long break because of WGA Strike)
                            9. Gemini.............4.05 million*
                            10.Persona............4.34 million*
                            11. Siren...............4.53 million*
                            12. Fracture...........4.18 million*
                            13. Hero................4.40 million*
                            14. Traveler...........4.13 million*
                            15. Veritas.............4.39 million*
                            16. Descent................. ? (it'll come out in a few weeks)

                            Season average (without Descent) - 4.8 million

                            ----- Added 1 Minutes later -----



                            Those weren't viewer ratings. Those were just a rating out of 10 for each episode from IMDB and TV.com, not VIEWER RATINGS for Nielsen reports.
                            That's funny, all the seasons that went up started off Clana happy.

                            Season two Whitney was gone and Clark was making his move on Lana and they ended up as a couple by the end of the season!

                            Season five Clana were finally together as a couple.

                            Season seven Clana are finally together as a couple without the secret.

                            Of course I'm not trying to say Clana brings ratings...

                            ...Who am I kidding, that's exactly what I'm trying to say after looking at that write-up above! Sorry I tried, I really did!
                            Last edited by Kreukie; 04-22-2008, 05:54 PM.

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                            • #74
                              regardless of ratings i have always loved smallville and i still will after the show is over. Like someone else said the quality of the show is in the eyes of the beholder and these eyes love it!

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                              • #75
                                Live+7 rating for Descent:
                                - Live: 3,247 million viewers
                                - Live+7: 4,186 million viewers
                                DVR Audience (000s): 939
                                % Increase Over Live: 28.9%
                                - SV had the 3rd highest % increase in DVR viewing from live viewing for that week.
                                Source: Top 20 Most % Time-shifted Broadcast TV Shows

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