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  • #16
    I like football-its my 2nd favorite sport to baseball.Im just sayin its not the national pastime.
    OK its true kids are more into football and basketball.Some of it has to do with the late night games-especially in the playoffs-where many dont end till after midnight.Plus-the NBA for instance-going the M-TV route with High Flyin Action set to hip-hop music.
    Ok-the US hasnt done well in little league competition-but hey-its just a bunch of kids after all.No matter where they play it,and where its caught on across the world-its still as American as hot dogs and apple pie-a great tradition and the national pastime.Wasnt it George Will who said "whoever wants to understand the pulse of America,must first understand baseball"

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    • #17
      Jim Mckenzie,a 15 yr hockey veteran playing for Nashville said "The scary part now for hockey-will the fans come back?We're not baseball-were not the national pastime"

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      • #18
        Dude. You are obsessed. It's a cliche phrase.

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        • #19
          Hhhhmmm-this is the discussion forum isnt it?In a discussion dont u try and back up statements with opinons and facts?I am not 'obsessed'with this-the quote i used was from an article I read in the paper-and thought would be relavent to this thread.
          I invite anyone to debate this using any rescource they would like-as i would in any discussion/debate.Surprised u would say that Shark,after all your posts debating the college football champs.I always took your opinons-facts-hypothesis-as your simply presenting your case.

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          • #20
            I don't really think that quote lends any support to your statement though. I mean some hockey player calls it the national pasttime, it really doesn't convey any true sense of what you are saying. I just think it's really bad evidence for anything. It's a cliche phrase that has been around since the depression. See, to me, to be a true NATIONAL pasttime, you have to show me that A. it is unique to America and/or B. a large part of american culture. It may have been true a few years ago, bbut I don't think it is true now.

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            • #21
              Those are 2 very good points.I see more of what u are saying now.While it is not unique to america-it is uniquely american-no matter where its played.And as to 'a large part of american culture'-i guess that would be a matter of opinon.Some people care nothing about sports-some care nothing about government and its a large part of america.I thought the hockey player quote was relavent because 1)this is a professional sports player 2)a 15-yr veteran whos been around and his opinon is baseball is the national pastime.

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              • #22
                Whoops, I misread the quote. I thought it said 15 year old.

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                • #23
                  No lie, I am a baseball junkie. I was the little kid that played t-ball and did little league. I tried football in jr. high, but I didn't like it as much. Once I hit high school I destroyed my knee. A short-stop all my life, then one day, BAM, I miss the catch and the ball obliterates my knee.

                  I watch it all I can. I've been a Red Sox fan since I was a kid. Over Christmas break, I drove down to Tampa, FL to greet the Sox getting off the plane for training. It was awesome. I can't get enough baseball. I'm a stats junkie and I can name just about any player you want to know about.

                  I cannot wait until pre-season games make it back on tv. Baseball is truly my game. Granted, Saturdays in fall are devoted to college football for me, it could never compare to the greatest game in history.

                  By the way, I DESPISE basketball. No offense to anyone who likes it, though. I just can't get into it.

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                  • #24
                    Were talkin baseball
                    Kluszewski,Campanella
                    Talkin baseball
                    The man and Bobby Feller
                    The Scooter,Barber and the Newc
                    They knew them all from Boston to Dubuque
                    Especially Willie,Mickey and the Duke
                    Im talkin baseball
                    Like Reggie-Quinsinberry
                    Talkin baseball
                    Carew and Gaylord Perry
                    Seaver,Garvey,Schmidt and Vida Blue
                    If Cooperstown is callin
                    Its no fluke
                    We'll be there always
                    With Willie,Mickey and the Duke

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                    • #25
                      Abbott: Alright, now whaddya want?

                      Costello: Now look, I'm the head of the sports department. I gotta know the baseball players' names.
                      Do you know the guys' names?

                      Abbott: Oh sure.

                      Costello: So you go ahead and tell me some of their names.

                      Abbott: Well, I'll introduce you to the boys. You know sometimes nowadays they give ballplayers peculiar names.

                      Costello: You mean funny names.

                      Abbott: Nicknames, pet names, like Dizzy Dean -

                      Costello: His brother Daffy -

                      Abbott: Daffy Dean -

                      Costello: And their cousin!

                      Abbott: Who's that?

                      Costello: Goofy!

                      Abbott: Goofy, huh? Now let's see. We have on the bags - we have Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know's on third.

                      Costello: That's what I wanna find out.

                      Abbott: I say Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know's on third -

                      Costello: You know the fellows' names?

                      Abbott: Certainly!

                      Costello: Well then who's on first?

                      Abbott: Yes!

                      Costello: I mean the fellow's name!

                      Abbott: Who!

                      Costello: The guy on first!

                      Abbott: Who!

                      Costello: The first baseman!

                      Abbott: Who!

                      Costello: The guy playing first!

                      Abbott: Who is on first!

                      Costello: Now whaddya askin' me for?

                      Abbott: I'm telling you Who is on first.

                      Costello: Well, I'm asking YOU who's on first!

                      Abbott: That's the man's name.

                      Costello: That's who's name?

                      Abbott: Yes.

                      Costello: Well go ahead and tell me.

                      Abbott: Who.

                      Costello: The guy on first.

                      Abbott: Who!

                      Costello: The first baseman.

                      Abbott: Who is on first!

                      Costello: Have you got a contract with the first baseman?

                      Abbott: Absolutely.

                      Costello: Who signs the contract?

                      Abbott: Well, naturally!

                      Costello: When you pay off the first baseman every month, who gets the money?

                      Abbott: Every dollar. Why not? The man's entitled to it.

                      Costello: Who is?

                      Abbott: Yes. Sometimes his wife comes down and collects it.

                      Costello: Who's wife?

                      Abbott: Yes.

                      Costello: All I'm tryin' to find out is what's the guy's name on first base.

                      Abbott: Oh, no - wait a minute, don't switch 'em around. What is on second base.

                      Costello: I'm not askin' you who's on second.

                      Abbott: Who is on first.

                      Costello: I don't know.

                      Abbott: He's on third - now we're not talkin' 'bout him.

                      Costello: Now, how did I get on third base?

                      Abbott: You mentioned his name!

                      Costello: If I mentioned the third baseman's name, who did I say is playing third?

                      Abbott: No - Who's playing first.

                      Costello: Never mind first - I wanna know what's the guy's name on third.

                      Abbott: No - What's on second.

                      Costello: I'm not askin' you who's on second.

                      Abbott: Who's on first.

                      Costello: I don't know.

                      Abbott: He's on third.

                      Costello: Aaah! Would you please stay on third base and don't go off it?

                      Abbott: What was it you wanted?

                      Costello: Now who's playin' third base?

                      Abbott: Now why do you insist on putting Who on third base?

                      Costello: Why? Who am I putting over there?

                      Abbott: Yes. But we don't want him there.

                      Costello: What's the guy's name on third base?

                      Abbott: What belongs on second.

                      Costello: I'm not askin' you who's on second.

                      Abbott: Who's on first.

                      Costello: I don't know.

                      Abbott & Costello: THIRD BASE!

                      Costello: You got an outfield?

                      Abbott: Oh yes!

                      Costello: The left fielder's name?

                      Abbott: Why.

                      Costello: I don't know, I just thought I'd ask you.

                      Abbott: Well, I just thought I'd tell you.

                      Costello: Alright, then tell me who's playin' left field.

                      Abbott: Who is playing fir-

                      Costello: STAY OUTTA THE INFIELD! I wanna know what's the left fielder's name.

                      Abbott: What's on second.

                      Costello: I'm not askin' you who's on second.

                      Abbott: Who's on first.

                      Costello: I don't know.

                      Abbott & Costello: THIRD BASE!

                      Costello: The left fielder's name?

                      Abbott: Why.

                      Costello: Because!

                      Abbott: Oh, he's center field.

                      Costello: Look, you gotta pitcher on this team?

                      Abbott: Now wouldn't this be a fine team without a pitcher.

                      Costello: The pitcher's name.

                      Abbott: Tomorrow.

                      Costello: You don't wanna tell me today?

                      Abbott: I'm tellin' you now.

                      Costello: Then go ahead.

                      Abbott: Tomorrow.

                      Costello: What time?

                      Abbott: What time what?

                      Costello: What time tomorrow are you going to tell me who's pitching?

                      Abbott: Now listen. Who is not pitching. Who is on fir-

                      Costello: I'll break your arm if you say Who's on first. I wanna know what's the pitcher's name.

                      Abbott: What's on second.

                      Costello: I don't know.

                      Abbott & Costello: THIRD BASE!

                      Costello: You got a catcher?

                      Abbott: Oh, absolutely.

                      Costello: The catcher's name.

                      Abbott: Today.

                      Costello: Today. And Tomorrow's pitching.

                      Abbott: Now you've got it.

                      Costello: All we've got is a couple of days on the team.

                      Abbott: Well, I can't help that.

                      Costello: Well, I'm a catcher too.

                      Abbott: I know that.

                      Costello: Now suppose that I'm catching, Tomorrow's pitching on my team and their heavy hitter gets up.

                      Abbott: Yes.

                      Costello: Tomorrow throws the ball. The batter bunts the ball. When he bunts the ball, me being a good catcher, I wanna throw the guy
                      out at first base. So I pick up the ball and throw it to who?

                      Abbott: Now that's the first thing you've said right.

                      Costello: I don't even know what I'm talkin' about!

                      Abbott: Well, that's all you have to do.

                      Costello: Is to throw the ball to first base.

                      Abbott: Yes.

                      Costello: Now who's got it?

                      Abbott: Naturally!

                      Costello: If I throw the ball to first base, somebody's gotta catch it. Now who caught it?

                      Abbott: Naturally!

                      Costello: Who caught it?

                      Abbott: Naturally.

                      Costello: Who?

                      Abbott: Naturally!

                      Costello: Naturally.

                      Abbott: Yes.

                      Costello: So I pick up the ball and I throw it to Naturally.

                      Abbott: NO, NO, NO! You throw the ball to first base and Who gets it?

                      Costello: Naturally.

                      Abbott: That's right. There we go.

                      Costello: So I pick up the ball and I throw it to Naturally.

                      Abbott: You don't!

                      Costello: I throw it to who?

                      Abbott: Naturally.

                      Costello: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING!

                      Abbott: You're not saying it that way.

                      Costello: I said I throw the ball to Naturally.

                      Abbott: You don't - you throw the ball to Who?

                      Costello: Naturally!

                      Abbott: Well, say that!

                      Costello: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING! I throw the ball to who?

                      Abbott: Naturally.

                      Costello: Ask me.

                      Abbott: You throw the ball to Who?

                      Costello: Naturally.

                      Abbott: That's it.

                      Costello: SAME AS YOU!! I throw the ball to first base and who gets it?

                      Abbott: Naturally!

                      Costello: Who has it?

                      Abbott: Naturally!

                      Costello: HE BETTER HAVE IT! I throw the ball to first base. Whoever it is grabs the ball, so the guy runs to second. Who picks up the ball and throws it to What, What throws it to I Don't Know, I Don't Know throws it back to Tomorrow - triple play.

                      Abbott: Yes.

                      Costello: Another guy gets up - it's a long fly ball to Because. Why? I don't know. He's on third and I don't give a darn!

                      Abbott: What was that?

                      Costello: I said I don't give a darn!

                      Abbott: Oh, that's our shortstop.

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                      • #26
                        Thats a classic skit!Havent heard it in a long time-enjoyed reading it.Thx Paco.

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                        • #27
                          All things Baseball

                          Okay, I am a huge baseball fan. I've been thinking about making a baseball thread for a while now.

                          So, as the title says, this is a thread about everything baseball. Who is your favorite team? Favorite player? Who do you think will win the World Series? Talk about today's games.
                          And I'm always up for discussion about the New York Yankees. Or any other team. But especially the Yanks

                          P.S. Mods- Sorry if I shouldn't have posted this here. I thought it was the only logical place to post.

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                          • #28
                            Big time Yankees fan.

                            Not happy about our recent string of injuries. This season has been one of ups and downs already, but it was starting to look up overall. Now, I wasn't one of those people who thought we were gonna win the World Series this season after we went and won all of those games against Oakland and Seattle. I knew those teams were joke teams (Oakland has since started playing better) and knew better than to think we would perform like that against the rest of the league. However, with our recent run, I've felt like we had regained some of the swagger we'd lost. Giambi has been playing out of his mind, Mariano Rivera has been lights out, and the team has sorta accepted where Randy Johnson is at to the point where they know they can still win when he's on the mound but it's just gonna take more than 2 runs to do it.

                            Now, here we are, we get some nice wins before the break, including ones where we had to come from behind... something we hadn't been doing at all earlier in the year. I felt really good about them. What goes and happens, though, of course? Injuries. Kevin Brown, looked like he was accepting his role, and gets hurt. Wright looks to be out for the year. Pavano, even though he hasn't performed well AT ALL, is still a key component to our staff and doesn't help us when he isn't playing. To top it all off, Wang, who had been pitching pretty nicely I thought, is also now hurt. So, what's happened? Our fifth starter position has an ERA of over 11.

                            We picked a bad time to get hurt.

                            On a side note... it looks like Raffy just got 3,000. The man can flat out hit and that's all there is to it. Good for him and good for ******.

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                            • #29
                              Last night's game against Boston was embarrassing !!!

                              I heard that best case with Wright he's back by the middle of August. But that's probably unlikely. All I know is that we need some good pitching, because Mike Messina and Johnson can't do it alone.

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                              • #30
                                Is ****** a Player or the pill that you-know to men?

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