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  • #76
    Originally posted by darkphoenix21
    Hmmm.... Why didnt Zoom reveal Barry's secret?
    He kind of did "someone that he cares about, cares about you."

    Also it would kind of be a retread of Arrow Season 2 if he revealed Barry's secret to Wally, Slade revealed Oliver's secret to Laurel.

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    • #77
      so what they got to do? kiss?

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      • #78
        I sense a switch-o-rue coming

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        • #79
          ah so it was a real Jay but like a time travel jay.

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          • #80
            Wait maybe the guy in the mask is his father?

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            • #81
              dang good episode.

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              • #82
                guess Zoom has needs too

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                • #83
                  Who the heck is in the mask?

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Backward Galaxy
                    Who the heck is in the mask?

                    Thats the one thing I was looking for too!!!! Ugh!

                    I too too thought the same thing you did in a few posts back. Was there ever a Jay?

                    Also, I was confused on who Zoom killed. My channel was messing up then. His time remnant? Is that what he said? So he went back in time and convinced himself to pretend to be Jay too?

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Backward Galaxy
                      Who the heck is in the mask?
                      Easy, Zoom used Reverb to open a breach and find Jay Garrick on Earth-1 to abduct him to use him as a Speed Force battery. He then covered all traces of Jay so that Caitlin would not find him in a computer search.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Var-Zol
                        Easy, Zoom used Reverb to open a breach and find Jay Garrick on Earth-1 to abduct him to use him as a Speed Force battery. He then covered all traces of Jay so that Caitlin would not find him in a computer search.
                        I really don't think that's it... Or makes sense.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Var-Zol
                          Easy, Zoom used Reverb to open a breach and find Jay Garrick on Earth-1 to abduct him to use him as a Speed Force battery. He then covered all traces of Jay so that Caitlin would not find him in a computer search.
                          Earth 1 Jay wouldn't have the Speed Force.

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                          • #88
                            Well they did show a keystone city sign throughout the episode and Caitlin mentioned in a previous episode she could not find a Jay Garrick on Earth-1. That makes me believe that the man in the iron mask is the real Jay Garrick, whom Zoom is feeding off of energy from to avoid dying until he got Barry's speed energy. Zoom discovered Jay on E1 when he first went through the breach and abducted him.

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                            • #89
                              I'm guessing Barry will be getting his speed back soon based on Arrow's flash forwards that they've shown earlier this season.

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                              • #90
                                Thinking about it more, there has to be a real Jay. In season 1 when the helmet came through, Reverse Flash knew whose it was.

                                Or maybe he knew it was Zoom..

                                also, to me, it seemed like Wells knew Zoom was Zolomon all along. Or did he just make a guess as to what happened?

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