Yes, there can be a reason to tolerate Eddie but not Iris. Although, that one reason indicates that we should really gang up on the writer instead of the characters themselves. After all, it's really the writer's fault and not the characters themselves.
You see, I've noticed that when a writer wants to stir up drama JUST BECAUSE, they often use female characters more than male characters. And if they do use a male character, they often make sure to write in motivation and reasons beforehand that actually make sense. So the viewers will be more likely to tolerate and root for the male characters than they do for the female character. They never do this for female characters.
example it's often a very common trope, although it's very old as time and kind of sexist, that a woman is just naturally irrational. That she doesn't even know where her feelings come from, etc. That she doesn't know what she wants at all until it's too late for her! And so on forth.
The most worst modern example of this is Barbara from Gotham. She's all over the place, and there's literally no good reasons for anything she does. She's pretty much the archetype of the hysterical woman who doesn't even know what she wants out of life. And you know what? the majority of viewers here just find her annoying.... and I do too.
That trope you mentioned, is merely a offshoot of that tired and sexist trope. And yes, I hate that trope. and I see a few other people in this topic thread who stated that they hated that trope too, to varying degrees. So I know it's just not me who's annoyed by how they're treating female characters in comparison to the male characters.
After all, if you study Eddie the character's motivation for doing things that stirs up drama, the motivation makes sense 100%.
1) was against the flash and even created an anti-flash taskforce with help from the chef? Well, as a cop he naturally can't help but be distrustful of vigilantes....guys like him are supposed to uphold the law, not some weirdo in a red suit.
2) But then all of a sudden he's warming up to the flash? Well, he briefly captured the man in the yellow suit and realized that there was two speedsters out there... and on top of it he also realized that there was other powerful weirdos out there that they might need help from the red speedster for after all. What's good for the goose is also good for the gander.
3) He was the only person besides Joe who weren't oblivious to what Barry Allen was feeling for Iris, but instead of freaking out about it he went directly to Iris. He asked Iris if there was any chance that the two of them might get together. Iris says that there's nothing there... he's doubtful but since Iris had been his GF for a while, he decides to trust Iris's words. And then all of a sudden, Iris turns around and starts flirting with Barry while Barry was supposed to be on a date with a different girl? Any freaking out he might do later would then be completely justified.
Then there's Iris. She grew up in the same house as Barry Allen, and knows him better than the back of her own hand. Yet, she didn't know herself well enough to realize that her sisterly feelings for Barry Allen weren't so sisterly after all? After all, she had plenty of time to realize a lot of things growing up..... if you get my drift. For instance, accidentally walking in on Barry naked when the two of them are teenagers... and then realizing that she had some really inapporate feelings seeing her pseudo-brother naked and that maybe she doesn't really see him as her brother on some level?
I think this storyline would had been pulled off better if they had simply gone with a bit of pop psychology instead of a love triangle. That is, Iris is so used to always having Barry Allen around in her life. But now they're adults and on some surface level Iris is worried that she'll lose Barry Allen as an constant presence in her life. So she freaks out when Barry Allen starts dating girls, etc.... because that might lead to Barry Allen moving away from the city and having a family that doesn't induce her in it. After all, It's not like they were a "real family" bound by blood when Joe West became Barry Allen's legal guardian.
That kind of thing doesn't require a romantic connection between Iris and Barry for that kind of logic to work... And if Iris had any romantic feelings I would had preffered for her to be in denial of it a lot longer, even if Barry told her about his feelings. At least until Barry Allen does a time reset.
I guess I just don't want another god-damned love triangle on a superhero show. CW overused the love triangles on most of their TV shows in the past years, even on Smallville. It's such a overused trope that I now HATE it. That's what it really boils down to for me. the slightest hint of an melodramatic love triangle sends me into a PSTD-filled, rage-inducing flashback to not only the worst bits of Smallville...but also other CW shows I watched in the past such as: Veronica Mars, What I like about you, Reba, The tomorrow people, The secret circle, and so on forth.
THEY LITERALLY OVERUSED THAT TROPE ON EVERY SINGLE SHOW.
CW writers, man. It's like they would be awesome writers if they just let go of the writing crutches they seem to have. Whenever they're unsure of how to write a scene, they seem so quick to throw in a love triangle for the heck of it.
You see, I've noticed that when a writer wants to stir up drama JUST BECAUSE, they often use female characters more than male characters. And if they do use a male character, they often make sure to write in motivation and reasons beforehand that actually make sense. So the viewers will be more likely to tolerate and root for the male characters than they do for the female character. They never do this for female characters.
example it's often a very common trope, although it's very old as time and kind of sexist, that a woman is just naturally irrational. That she doesn't even know where her feelings come from, etc. That she doesn't know what she wants at all until it's too late for her! And so on forth.
The most worst modern example of this is Barbara from Gotham. She's all over the place, and there's literally no good reasons for anything she does. She's pretty much the archetype of the hysterical woman who doesn't even know what she wants out of life. And you know what? the majority of viewers here just find her annoying.... and I do too.
That trope you mentioned, is merely a offshoot of that tired and sexist trope. And yes, I hate that trope. and I see a few other people in this topic thread who stated that they hated that trope too, to varying degrees. So I know it's just not me who's annoyed by how they're treating female characters in comparison to the male characters.
After all, if you study Eddie the character's motivation for doing things that stirs up drama, the motivation makes sense 100%.
1) was against the flash and even created an anti-flash taskforce with help from the chef? Well, as a cop he naturally can't help but be distrustful of vigilantes....guys like him are supposed to uphold the law, not some weirdo in a red suit.
2) But then all of a sudden he's warming up to the flash? Well, he briefly captured the man in the yellow suit and realized that there was two speedsters out there... and on top of it he also realized that there was other powerful weirdos out there that they might need help from the red speedster for after all. What's good for the goose is also good for the gander.
3) He was the only person besides Joe who weren't oblivious to what Barry Allen was feeling for Iris, but instead of freaking out about it he went directly to Iris. He asked Iris if there was any chance that the two of them might get together. Iris says that there's nothing there... he's doubtful but since Iris had been his GF for a while, he decides to trust Iris's words. And then all of a sudden, Iris turns around and starts flirting with Barry while Barry was supposed to be on a date with a different girl? Any freaking out he might do later would then be completely justified.
Then there's Iris. She grew up in the same house as Barry Allen, and knows him better than the back of her own hand. Yet, she didn't know herself well enough to realize that her sisterly feelings for Barry Allen weren't so sisterly after all? After all, she had plenty of time to realize a lot of things growing up..... if you get my drift. For instance, accidentally walking in on Barry naked when the two of them are teenagers... and then realizing that she had some really inapporate feelings seeing her pseudo-brother naked and that maybe she doesn't really see him as her brother on some level?
I think this storyline would had been pulled off better if they had simply gone with a bit of pop psychology instead of a love triangle. That is, Iris is so used to always having Barry Allen around in her life. But now they're adults and on some surface level Iris is worried that she'll lose Barry Allen as an constant presence in her life. So she freaks out when Barry Allen starts dating girls, etc.... because that might lead to Barry Allen moving away from the city and having a family that doesn't induce her in it. After all, It's not like they were a "real family" bound by blood when Joe West became Barry Allen's legal guardian.
That kind of thing doesn't require a romantic connection between Iris and Barry for that kind of logic to work... And if Iris had any romantic feelings I would had preffered for her to be in denial of it a lot longer, even if Barry told her about his feelings. At least until Barry Allen does a time reset.
I guess I just don't want another god-damned love triangle on a superhero show. CW overused the love triangles on most of their TV shows in the past years, even on Smallville. It's such a overused trope that I now HATE it. That's what it really boils down to for me. the slightest hint of an melodramatic love triangle sends me into a PSTD-filled, rage-inducing flashback to not only the worst bits of Smallville...but also other CW shows I watched in the past such as: Veronica Mars, What I like about you, Reba, The tomorrow people, The secret circle, and so on forth.
THEY LITERALLY OVERUSED THAT TROPE ON EVERY SINGLE SHOW.
CW writers, man. It's like they would be awesome writers if they just let go of the writing crutches they seem to have. Whenever they're unsure of how to write a scene, they seem so quick to throw in a love triangle for the heck of it.
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