I'll probably enjoy the ep more on the rewatch. First viewing didn't do much for me, but that's definitely partially because the synopsis said Felicity was going to tell Oliver disturbing news about Moira, and I was very impatient for that. I saw community service coming for Thea a mile away. I did find it a sad sort of funny that Thea was going to go to jail just to make her mother miserable. I know she doesn't have any real concept of what jail would be like, but she's still not the most mature/intelligent 18 year old out there to have that attitude.
I really enjoyed the Thea/Oliver sibling bonding and Oliver and his tic-tac-toe advice. He acted more like an ally than a judge and acknowledged that he's done stuff like this, too.
Glad to see Quentin again. I liked getting some Lance family info. Interesting the things Laurel said about Thea. How much has Laurel interacted with Thea over the past five years? I definitely get the impression Tommy has been around the Queens during that time, and Laurel has been around Tommy...
Oliver's cop buddy and Oliver getting spotted were interesting. And then Lance saying what he did to the Hood. It could just be generic judginess, but it could also have have been weighed to evoke a certain reaction.
Nice to see Digg calling Oliver on what he shouldn't be doing, as usual. But Oliver went out anyway.
Not too interested in the island flashbacks, myself. I'd like to learn how/what/when Oliver learned about the book and what was going on, but all the guys-chasing and torture/prison stuff bore me. And I knew Yao Fei (sp?) would still be an ally.
Alas, the actual taking-down-Vertigo-producer part didn't interest me, either. I like the surrounding material, but not really that part. And if the Count gets out somehow and does something even worse (in an insane way), I'm sure Quentin Lance will remind everyone that the Arrow helped make him. Of course, he was already evil and a murderer, so Oliver's actions only contribute so much.
Then we finally got to the part I was waiting for - Felicity telling Oliver about the book. And him saying he'd never seen it before right after he said she could trust him. Well, I guess he hadn't seen *that* book before, but still, he's (unsurprisingly) not being forthcoming. Oliver really did look shaken to me when she showed it to him. Not really in his expression, but in his body language. I'm dying to know what he thinks about it all. You know, does he think Walter is dead (he did before), does he think the book really was Moira's and not Robert's (not that he'd need two, but denial could play in), is he wondering if Moira was part of Walter or Robert's deaths?
Then there's Thea. He was just trying to repair her relationship with Moira, and now this. But it really might be smarter to just keep her in the dark, because look what happened to Walter when he found out, and he doesn't want that to happen to Thea. This is doubly so if he ends up thinking that Moira had the boat sabotaged (and knew he'd be on it). And if he knows she had him kindapped...
Oliver could quite feasibly end up thinking Moira was more responsible than she is, if he doesn't connect Malcolm to it, and thus doesn't know of the threats to Walter from non-Moira sources. And if he does connect Malcolm, will he be at all wary of Tommy (I mean, will he even consider the idea that Tommy is not now just as oblivious as Oliver was at 22)?
What about Walter? I know Oliver already did some digging, but would he do more now? Either because Felicity can point him in the evil cabal direction or because he knows more about the list and the people than the audience have been told so far, and that gives him a direction to follow.
And how much will he tell Diggle? I'm really interested in the family/friends dynamic now that Ollie has a reason to be suspicious of his mother. I didn't think he suspected her all along, though, so if it turns out he did, I have no idea what to expect.
I don't know. It depends on how it all goes down, really. I think Thea would, in general, have more likelihood to be loyal to Oliver than Moira. But if he makes these accusations right after she finds out he's been lying to her ever since he got home, then she'd be far less inclined to believe him, I think. And it also depends on how much she still thinks he might be the Hood - the more she suspects, the less blindsided she feels, the more likely to believe him.
However, right now I'm think a confrontation isn't in the cards for a while, that Oliver will play close to his vest and investigate without Moira or Thea knowing. But then, I've never been good at predicting what direction a show will go.
I really enjoyed the Thea/Oliver sibling bonding and Oliver and his tic-tac-toe advice. He acted more like an ally than a judge and acknowledged that he's done stuff like this, too.
Glad to see Quentin again. I liked getting some Lance family info. Interesting the things Laurel said about Thea. How much has Laurel interacted with Thea over the past five years? I definitely get the impression Tommy has been around the Queens during that time, and Laurel has been around Tommy...
Oliver's cop buddy and Oliver getting spotted were interesting. And then Lance saying what he did to the Hood. It could just be generic judginess, but it could also have have been weighed to evoke a certain reaction.
Nice to see Digg calling Oliver on what he shouldn't be doing, as usual. But Oliver went out anyway.
Not too interested in the island flashbacks, myself. I'd like to learn how/what/when Oliver learned about the book and what was going on, but all the guys-chasing and torture/prison stuff bore me. And I knew Yao Fei (sp?) would still be an ally.
Alas, the actual taking-down-Vertigo-producer part didn't interest me, either. I like the surrounding material, but not really that part. And if the Count gets out somehow and does something even worse (in an insane way), I'm sure Quentin Lance will remind everyone that the Arrow helped make him. Of course, he was already evil and a murderer, so Oliver's actions only contribute so much.
Then we finally got to the part I was waiting for - Felicity telling Oliver about the book. And him saying he'd never seen it before right after he said she could trust him. Well, I guess he hadn't seen *that* book before, but still, he's (unsurprisingly) not being forthcoming. Oliver really did look shaken to me when she showed it to him. Not really in his expression, but in his body language. I'm dying to know what he thinks about it all. You know, does he think Walter is dead (he did before), does he think the book really was Moira's and not Robert's (not that he'd need two, but denial could play in), is he wondering if Moira was part of Walter or Robert's deaths?
Then there's Thea. He was just trying to repair her relationship with Moira, and now this. But it really might be smarter to just keep her in the dark, because look what happened to Walter when he found out, and he doesn't want that to happen to Thea. This is doubly so if he ends up thinking that Moira had the boat sabotaged (and knew he'd be on it). And if he knows she had him kindapped...
Oliver could quite feasibly end up thinking Moira was more responsible than she is, if he doesn't connect Malcolm to it, and thus doesn't know of the threats to Walter from non-Moira sources. And if he does connect Malcolm, will he be at all wary of Tommy (I mean, will he even consider the idea that Tommy is not now just as oblivious as Oliver was at 22)?
What about Walter? I know Oliver already did some digging, but would he do more now? Either because Felicity can point him in the evil cabal direction or because he knows more about the list and the people than the audience have been told so far, and that gives him a direction to follow.
And how much will he tell Diggle? I'm really interested in the family/friends dynamic now that Ollie has a reason to be suspicious of his mother. I didn't think he suspected her all along, though, so if it turns out he did, I have no idea what to expect.
Thea's turn around towards her mother I think makes it possible that she will be on her side when Oliver confronts Moira. Which means sibling vs sibling some where down the line.
However, right now I'm think a confrontation isn't in the cards for a while, that Oliver will play close to his vest and investigate without Moira or Thea knowing. But then, I've never been good at predicting what direction a show will go.
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