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FIERCE and CURE Official Re-Watch Thread, September 21st, 2012

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  • Originally posted by DJ Doena
    I called Ollie on that.
    Good!

    But you seem to be the only one.

    And yes, it was the same kind of wrong. But then again, that's why Ollie and Clark clash so often, becaue Ollie's also a self-admitted "the ends justifies the means" kind of guy.
    But that does not make him ultimate evil, right? It is only Lex who is ultimate evil because of it.

    Plastique was send to Belle Reve and Belle Reve is an official institution.
    I am not talking about that. Tess freed her before she reached it and offered her friendship. She betrayed her by planting a poison chip into her brain and killing her team-mates and when Plastique learned of it she and another member of the Injustice Gang tried to kill Tess. Clark prevented it.

    "After saving Tess, Oliver told Clark that Bette and her partner were incarcerated and taken away." http://smallville.*****.com/wiki/Bette_Sans_Souci

    It was not said that Ollie put her into Belle Reeve. Or that they had some fair court case - they would not have had because Plastique would have told any judge that Tess had planted a chip in her brain and though it was inactivated by Clark it was still there. And that Tess had killed her team-mates. And Plastique's partner had not even commited a serious crime, as she had by blowing up the bus and killing Tommy in "Plastique" (at least as far as we know). So Ollie incarcerated her and her partner somewhere without even trying to cure her (as Lex did) and Clark didn't even consider to ask where. There was no legality to that. For Clark and Ollie and Tess it was wrong when Lex did it and okay when Ollie did it. Double standarts all along.

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    • Originally posted by DJ Doena
      Bollocks. There's no way Lex could have known that. This was a tightly kept family secret of which there were per the show's own acknowledgement no official records dating that far back.
      It was shown that he knew. Lionel knew and kept records on it - it was Lionel who told it Lana. Jason never did. Lex got his hands on Lionel's records after sending Lionel to prison. That was why Lex started searching for the Stones in the first place: Lionel's records. And why Lex recognized Jason and why he treated Genevieve the way he did. Why he gave the Stone to Bridget Crosby (who later tried to give it back to Lex but was assasinated by Jason).

      You know what, I'm just going to stop argue here. You have built your very own version of Offscreenville where everything makes exactly sense in the way you want it to make. I know a windmill when I see one...
      Okay. But if you think about it, does it not strike you a little bit odd that Bugboy Greg, whom we saw turning into hundreds of bugs after killing his mother and then fighting with Clark would come to Clark 10 years later to thank him? For what? Clark never did anything but prevent him from mating with Lana. He never "inspired" him - not that words ever worked against a meteor infected. Why did the authors choose bugboy? Clark didn't even try to help him that early in the series. Didn't you wonder why all the others in Smallville High thanked Clark for their recovery? Or that nobody recalled Lois or even tried to? Nobody asked for more details to try to recall her, not even the guys!!! It was as if they didn't want to talk about lost memories. Or that all the meteor freak kids who went to Smallville High were sane now and some wanted to go to college but couldn't because of their criminal records?

      As Chloe once remarked to Clark: "all meteor freaks she knew about either ended in Belle Reeve or dead" (it was not completely right, there were exceptions, but statistically she was correct). So what had Clark done to deserve all this praise?

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