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  • #61
    Originally posted by Degobunny
    Unless Lois was not good at researching if she had done an a satifactory background check then she would have at least curious that a guy concernend with illegal immigration is suddenly against vigilantes saving the city.
    I don't get it. Once again you're assuming Godfrey's anti-vigilante stance was new. How do you know that? He was basically an unknown voice on the radio prior to being possessed by "The Darkness," but that doesn't mean he didn't speak out against heroes along with speaking out against illegal aliens.

    Plus the way he was talking to her about being pure of heart and possesing her would at least make one question the guys sanity and do further investigating before handing a story over to the tabloids.
    The way Godfrey was talking to Lois was consistent with a guy who took pleasure from the likes of Desaad's ladies. To Lois it would have only been more proof of Godfrey's depravity.
    Last edited by ginevrakent; 10-09-2010, 04:49 PM.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Dyanara
      It wasn't protecting anything. Oliver himself said to leave it the he11 alone and Lois being to hardheaded and thinking she knows whats best for everybody went against him. It affects Oliver not her! Which is why in the end all her efforts were for nothing because she did what she wanted instead of listening to the person who was actually going to be exposed by Godfrey.
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      Yeah, because telling the world "Hey, Im green Arrow" is certainly NOT going to put his friends, colleagues and exes in any spotlight, right? Basically, Lois went to protect him and the rest of his friends and what did Oliver do? He put everyone under microscope. He could have ruined Lois career, if the public got against her with similar lies like Gordon had against vigilantes and more importantly, he just put Clark in the spotlight. Farmboy friends with billionaire? Lets dig up some dirt why these two would be friends. Brilliant, isnt it?

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      • #63
        Originally posted by ginevrakent
        Lois may be a passionate supporter of heroes, but her efforts to discredit Gordon Godfrey did not reek of bad journalism, IMO. Lois merely decided to do some digging into Godfrey's past to determine if, in fact, he practiced what he preached. When Lois followed Godfrey to Club Desaad and ultimately exposed his "dark side" to the world, her actions were no different than the actions of enterprising journalists - good journalists - who unearth evidence of child abuse in the Catholic Church or proof of homosexual activity among those who are prominent gay-bashers. The key, of course, is to expose hypocrisy.

        It would be one thing for Lois to be biased against hero-bashers and subsequently smear them in the press with virtually nothing but her own opinionated rants, but it's completely different when Lois can actually back up her criticisms with proof. A journalist who prints the truth, even if it serves her bias, is still a good journalist.
        Word.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Dyanara
          Do you have any proof that she did?
          No, I don't. You don't have proof that she didn't. Unless we find out exactly what Lois did or did not know or did or did not research, I think it's a moot point, don't you?

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Degobunny
            Actually it was sudden. He said nothing one or the other about vigilantes until Darkseid got to him.
            "These illegal aliens are stealing our jobs, avoiding taxes", etc etc.

            What?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by jbshmdfb
              It is affecting her. Infamous showed that when a superhero comes out with his real identity it affects everyone around them. It also why she told Clark, Kara should find a disguise because what she did puts him in danger as well.
              So is Lois next going to discredit Oliver so she can protect himself seeing as how he has now come out of the closet?
              I swear all this is too reminiscent fo Chloe, Lana, Lionel, Martha doing shady things to protect Clark's identity. Doesnt matter who you hurt as long as the secret gets kept.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by cksidekick
                Spotless lamb?

                Is that really the line in the sand he would have to cross? The standard to be measured by?
                You were the one who claimed Godfrey spoke the absolute truth when he said he had nothing to hide.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Sarevokcz
                  Yeah, because telling the world "Hey, Im green Arrow" is certainly NOT going to put his friends, colleagues and exes in any spotlight, right? Basically, Lois went to protect him and the rest of his friends and what did Oliver do? He put everyone under microscope. He could have ruined Lois career, if the public got against her with similar lies like Gordon had against vigilantes and more importantly, he just put Clark in the spotlight. Farmboy friends with billionaire? Lets dig up some dirt why these two would be friends. Brilliant, isnt it?
                  Word.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Sarevokcz
                    Yeah, because telling the world "Hey, Im green Arrow" is certainly NOT going to put his friends, colleagues and exes in any spotlight, right? Basically, Lois went to protect him and the rest of his friends and what did Oliver do? He put everyone under microscope. He could have ruined Lois career, if the public got against her with similar lies like Gordon had against vigilantes and more importantly, he just put Clark in the spotlight. Farmboy friends with billionaire? Lets dig up some dirt why these two would be friends. Brilliant, isnt it?
                    Looks like there's another team member on the "Lets shut Oliver up so he doesnt put Clark in danger" bandwagon. So not only can Godfrey not expose the truth about Green Arrow, now Green Arrow cant expose the truth about himself either.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Dyanara
                      So is Lois next going to discredit Oliver so she can protect himself seeing as how he has now come out of the closet?
                      I swear all this is too reminiscent fo Chloe, Lana, Lionel, Martha doing shady things to protect Clark's identity. Doesnt matter who you hurt as long as the secret gets kept.
                      No she has to live with the repercussions which will be most likely pretty bad. Good going Oliver

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by geminis
                        I am not a debater nor a great intellectual and obviously a very poor defender.

                        All I was trying to say is that neither Lois nor Cat are perfect. But both women are willing to stand up for what they believe and Lois can play some pretty aggressive and reckless hardball for people she doesn't even know, let alone those she considers friends and family. Regarding Clark, if Lois were Shelby I could see her marking her territory. I mean, this is the woman who, even when she and Clark weren't dating, went after Maxima.
                        I'm not sure we watched the same episode, I'm pretty sure that in that episode, Maxima went after Lois because Clark pulled away from her in the elevator. It was only when Lois was confronted did she try to fight back.

                        In regards to Lois being a bad reporter, I disagree. She investigated the matter and went out to find the story. I'd bring up a bunch of points but they have already been brought up.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Sarevokcz
                          "These illegal aliens are stealing our jobs, avoiding taxes", etc etc.

                          What?
                          Umm.. Lou Dobbs says the same thing almost every week. Going to go dig up his highschool records to discredit him?

                          ----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

                          Originally posted by jbshmdfb
                          No she has to live with the repercussions which will be most likely pretty bad. Good going Oliver
                          MOD EDIT And how about Godfrey, he mentioned children in his speech, they have to live with the reprecussions of what Lois did.
                          Last edited by Vergon6; 10-09-2010, 05:08 PM. Reason: Violation of Rule #10, 13, 14-flaming another board member, calling them out

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Dyanara
                            Umm.. Lou Dobbs says the same thing almost every week. Going to go dig up his highschool records to discredit him?
                            If digging up his high school records proved he employed illegal immigrants or was an illegal immigrant himself, then discrediting him in that way seems perfectly reasonable to me.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Dyanara
                              Looks like there's another team member on the "Lets shut Oliver up so he doesnt put Clark in danger" bandwagon. So not only can Godfrey not expose the truth about Green Arrow, now Green Arrow cant expose the truth about himself either.
                              There is a reason why these people have secret identities. Otherwise why would they have them in the first place. You think none of the bad people will go after their families and friends especially a rich billionnaire now that their identity are public?

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                              • #75
                                Lois has biased opinions as does well everybody. Most journalists would prefer/try to pursue topics that they feel passionate about. Lois feels passionate about the vigilante/superhero topic because she is close to them and knows them. Godfrey was spreading only half of the story and most times it was just slander. Lois did something similar.

                                The key to a good journalist is writing unbiased and trying to inform the reader on the facts on both sides of the issue. We have not been able to actually read her articles to see if she writes as a fangirl or in a proffesional manner. Everyone has their own personal opinions on matters the key is writing the article so that it's unbiased and informs the public so they can form their own opinion on the matter. Lois is just one journalist it's the DP's obligation to be unbias. If the DP chooses to run a story that's pro-vigilante it's also their responsibility to show the downsides as well.

                                edit: However, the part about digging into his past trying to discredit him is somewhat tabloidish which is why the DP didn't run the article but the inquistor did. So while I wouldn't say she is a bad journalist by any means; she did act slightly immature and running on her emotions by slinging mud back at him.
                                Last edited by KryptoB-ron; 10-09-2010, 04:58 PM.

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