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  • Originally posted by kryptonhero25
    This is just speculation at this point. It's not definite that Chuck was God.
    Chuck was God.

    A prophet wouldn't have just disappear as prophets have been humans, not spirits or whatever that vanish when their "part" ends.

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    • Originally posted by Call_Me_Ishmael
      Chuck was God.

      A prophet wouldn't have just disappear as prophets have been humans, not spirits or whatever that vanish when their "part" ends.
      Another sign of Chuck being God was his talk about the importance of the Impala. Given that the angels weren't letting him see the future & how Dean & Cas were going "off the script" & making their own future that would be unknown to Chuck had he been a normal prophet, Chuck knowing the Impala's importance is a clear sign that he knew what would happen. I think God's role was twofold in this episode---as Chuck the writer and as the thing in the Impala that caught Lucifer's attention & allowed Sam to gain control of his body again. So God first wrote about it & then executed it.

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      • Originally posted by Call_Me_Ishmael
        Chuck was God.

        A prophet wouldn't have just disappear as prophets have been humans, not spirits or whatever that vanish when their "part" ends.
        I'll wait until we get confirmation from Kripke himself.

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        • Originally posted by Call_Me_Ishmael
          Chuck was God.

          A prophet wouldn't have just disappear as prophets have been humans, not spirits or whatever that vanish when their "part" ends.
          Since when does God wait by the phone for an escort/hooker. The whole disappearing act is more than likely just artistic license. The simple image of Clark fading away in the S8 finale had people going crazy saying that he was dead and it was his ghost which was certainly not the case. If Kripke wanted us to know that Chuck was God, he would have done a little more than just have him disappear.

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          • And how do you know he has sexual encounters with escorts? He's GOD, what if he's instead saving them?

            And I have no idea what you're referring to with Clark, but that doesn't really help your opinion just because Smallville is a very idiotic show, lol. My opinion, haha.

            AND...he vanished. I wouldn't put that under "artistic license" because he smiled when he referred to nothing ever really ending. He took his last sip of his drink, and dressed in white, and actually looked decent. If he was just a prophet, I wouldn't expect him to dress up this time as all the other times he looked like a slob. And more proof that had him narrating the episode; why would it be so special to have the prophet that we thought we knew to narrate the story and talk about the Impala? That would be just dull. Chuck narrating the episode meant someothing. He spoke of how the Impala saved Dean and gave Sam the edge to take care of Lucifer when needed. Lucifer is back in Hell, thus God finished his time on Earth and left.

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            • Originally posted by Call_Me_Ishmael
              And how do you know he has sexual encounters with escorts? He's GOD, what if he's instead saving them?
              Chuck sounded like he was expecting much more than a friendly conversation when he picked up the phone but it wound up being Dean. I'm sorry but Chuck disappearing at the end just isn't definitive proof, for me, that he was God. His mission was complete as a prophet and I think since he served his purpose, he was rewarded with an eternity of happiness in Heaven at the end. If Kripke really wanted us to recognize God in Chuck, it would have been clear because after all it is GOD.

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              • Mark - I'm with you. I'm just not sure I buy the whole Chuck is God arguement. I can see how it can be interpreted that way, but I just don't know.

                As far as Chuck just vanashing, I took it as his job was done and God took him to heaven. It has happened before (in the bible) so it's not totally implausible. There are 2 examples I can think of where the person did not die...they just vanished into heaven:

                Enoch - The bible simply says he walked with God and after a while God took him to heaven.

                Prophet Elijah - Was taken to heaven in a chariot of fire. Again, no physical death

                So...I really think Chuck was just a prophet who had done his job and was called to heaven by God.

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                • Originally posted by kryptonhero25
                  Chuck sounded like he was expecting much more than a friendly conversation when he picked up the phone but it wound up being Dean. I'm sorry but Chuck disappearing at the end just isn't definitive proof, for me, that he was God. His mission was complete as a prophet and I think since he served his purpose, he was rewarded with an eternity of happiness in Heaven at the end. If Kripke really wanted us to recognize God in Chuck, it would have been clear because after all it is GOD.
                  So the foreshadowing from "The Monster At The End Of This Book" wasn't enough?

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                  • Originally posted by Call_Me_Ishmael
                    So the foreshadowing from "The Monster At The End Of This Book" wasn't enough?
                    No it is not. I am going to have to respectfully refuse to conform to your opinion belief that Chuck is definitely God.

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                    • As long as you promise to say I was right when Kripke confirms it

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                      • Originally posted by Call_Me_Ishmael
                        As long as you promise to say I was right when Kripke confirms it
                        I wouldn't put it past Kripke to just say Chuck was God since he promised us God but didn't give us definitive proof or an image that God was in the episode but we'll see if I'm in the credit giving mood if/when we ever learn the truth . I was right about the whole Lucifer talking to Sam in the mirror and not God part though so right now its 1-0, me

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                        • Well the whole Lucifer/Sam speech is still bugging me even after watching "Swan Song" because that entire scene was a waste, imo.

                          But I know for sure I'm right on Chuck being God.

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                          • Originally posted by Call_Me_Ishmael
                            Well the whole Lucifer/Sam speech is still bugging me even after watching "Swan Song" because that entire scene was a waste, imo.

                            But I know for sure I'm right on Chuck being God.
                            How was it a waste? It showed Sam's struggle from within Lucifer and trying to regain control which was a pivotal part of the whole episode.

                            And a little cocky I see?

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                            • It was a waste because we've heard Sam say he's going to take down the devil a million times, and it was a waste for Lucifer to tell Sam that Sam is an outcast just as he was because he's said that a thousand times, and the whole getting revenge on Azazel's pawns was also a waste because we got that from "The Devil You Know", but Kripke decided to pound that idea into your head once more because I guess some fans are too hard-headed to think of that aspect(what Brady was speaking of). Now, I would never exactly call Kripke's writing lame, because I think he's a genius and there are very few writers out there(movies, television, books, etc.) that are, but just that whole scene, I felt we didn't really need it.

                              And yes, I am cocky when it comes to certain things, lol. Such as Chuck being God, because it makes the most sense; if we couldn't get the actual "father figures" such as Bobby, or even John Winchester himself, then Chuck as God makes sense as the "writer" of it all. And seeing as how the Bible itself was about God, then it also makes sense for having God himself write down the paths that Sam and Dean took, away from destiny itself to try to find their own way. And perhaps that's why Sam is out of Hell. God is proud of the way the brothers have "screwed destiny in the face". But, in the end, with Chuck being God, it shows that God allows free will. And that also can show the free will is still an illusion as said by Michael in "The Song Remains The Same" because God writes this story. He writes all of the stories.

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