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Why would Lex create a clone of himself that has the injuries he would have sustained from the Fortress accident?
Plus, that would negate the Prometheus Project; a project designed to rehabilitate Luthor from his injuries.
Lex was severely injured. That was him in the truck.
Not to mention Lex's words to Clark and Lana too (in Requiem) about how they ruined him and he wanted revenge; it couldn't have been anyone else in there.
2. Prometheus Project wasn't for rehabilitation, Lex always wanted super powers
3. You saw Lex........you saw the truck........you never saw Lex in the truck.
4. If GA hadn't blown up the truck, Lex would have.........it was already rigged to blow. Toyman couldn't have stuffed enough explsives in the monkey's arse to make the truck blow up the way it did......it was already rigged to blow up. The monkey was only supposed to kill Oliver, not take out the whole hospital.
5. If you're bold enough to tell Clark and Super Lana you want revenge.....then fail, You'd want them to find you DNA splattered all over and your ring to prove you were dead........or you'd be hunted forever.
6. This wasn't the first time on SV a clone was used to fake an apparent death!!!!!!
7.Lex is waiting to return when the time is right.
8.If Clark had any of his superpowers left when the FOS started to crumble......the Boy Scout would have grabbed Lex and super speeded him to safety.Last edited by jpfort1957; 06-02-2009, 09:28 PM.Comment
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1. Didn't have to be a clone with matching injuries. Any Lex clone would work. All that was needed was DNA. The ring was icing on the cake!!!
2. Prometheus Project wasn't for rehabilitation, Lex always wanted super powers
3. You saw Lex........you saw the truck........you never saw Lex in the truck.
4. If GA hadn't blown up the truck, Lex would have.........it was already rigged to blow. Toyman couldn't have stuffed enough explsives in the monkey's arse to make the truck blow up the way it did......it was already rigged to blow up. The monkey was only supposed to kill Oliver, not take out the whole hospital.
5. If you're bold enough to tell Clark and Super Lana you want revenge.....then fail, You'd want them to find you DNA splattered all over and your ring to prove you were dead........or you'd be hunted forever.
6. This wasn't the first time on SV a clone was used to fake an apparent death!!!!!!
7.Lex is waiting to return when the time is right.
No, watch the scene again.
It shows the injured Lex in the chair of the truck with his eyes opening in shock just as fire sparked out and the truck explodes.
The same chair is seen in the wreckage as Clark is exploring the mess.
The real injured Lex was in that truck when it exploded. Lex is dead.
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Did you miss how super pathetic Rosenbaum's final scene as Lex was in the S7 finale?
How super pathetic the revelation and confrontation in the fortress was?
How super pathetic the Doomsday 'fight' was?
The list goes on.
It's very characteristic of TPTB to kill off Lex in this manner (especially with the actor off the show).
Plus it lines up with DC to have a Lex cloned from the remains of Rosenbaum's Lex someday that has no memories of Clark in SV or knows of his secret.
It's the same situation as Jimmy.
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It doesn't add up.
Lex was committed to head to the Fortress immediately after Brainiac/Kara told him the truth about Clark.Comment
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The Only Reason to Assume Lex maybe Dead
When Lex had the Toyman try and kill Oliver Queen at the board meeting, it was thought that Tess would also be there. Lex wanted them both dead. When Toyman reported back to Lex that Queen survived and Tess didn't make it to the meeting, he sent Toyman to drop off the monkey bomb. Oliver used the monkey bomb to blow up the truck where Lex was supposed to be.
The only reson to assume Lex Luthor maybe dead.............is the fact that Oliver and Tess still live. But, then again, never assume anything with Lex Luthor!!!!!!!!!!!!Last edited by jpfort1957; 06-02-2009, 10:23 PM.Comment
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You need to rewatch the episode:
Lex is in the truck. Watch has the room lights up and his eyes open in shock as the truck blows up around him.
Notice the chair Lex is strapped to, with the breathing equiptment.
Now see the same chair in the wreckage as Clark examines the debris:
The last scene of the 14th episode of Smallville Season 8.Lex Luthor die. Oliver Queen killed him with a toybomb created by a crazy man, who worked for Lex.A...
(The body was obviously removed since the Police took Lex's remains and identified them)
The evidence is overwhemling that Lex was murdered there.
This convoluted clone theories are too far fetched and ridiculously complex; the exposition for it, itself, to fill the plotholes would require alot of explanation.
I think you're giving the showrunners too much credit.Comment
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This is Smallville.
Did you miss how super pathetic Rosenbaum's final scene as Lex was in the S7 finale?
How super pathetic the revelation and confrontation in the fortress was?
How super pathetic the Doomsday 'fight' was?
The list goes on.
It's very characteristic of TPTB to kill off Lex in this manner (especially with the actor off the show).
I know this is all wishful thinking, but it's still entirely possible. It would be the most brilliant way of bringing Lex back and showing how badass he is. Becoming another Oliver Queen would totally be a move that the real Lex of the comics would do to feed his insatiable appetite for knowledge. It would finally put Smallville's Lex on par with his counterpart.
Plus it lines up with DC to have a Lex cloned from the remains of Rosenbaum's Lex someday that has no memories of Clark in SV or knows of his secret.
It's the same situation as Jimmy.
On top of all this, they had a Jimmy Olsen special in season 7's DVD set, lining up Aaron Ashmore's Jimmy to all the other Jimmy's of the films & TV series. They wouldn't have bothered doing this if they knew AA's Jimmy wasn't the real deal. That was just a pea-brained idea at the last minute by the idiots in charge now like the majority of the 2nd half of season 8 has been. Nothing will convince me that this was the plan ever since they brought him in season 6. An age difference doesn't mean jack when the central character of the show doesn't even come close to resembling the iconic hero of the comics who also happens to be DC's greatest hero. If anything or anyone should be killed off or retconned, it should be Clark. There's no way DC ordered the killing of Jimmy while at the same time allowing this version of Superman's coming of age to have a tragic & dark origin like Batman---something Superman is clearly not supposed to have. The Clark in this show more resembles an emotional version of Superboy Prime than he does the real Clark Kent/Superman of the comics.Comment
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You're taking my Lex comment out of context though.
When I said align with DC Superman mythology, I meant so Lex doesn't know Clark Kent intimately, doesn't know his secret, and wouldn't recognize him as Superman.
This alignment with mythology was the PS3's official excuse for killing off Jimmy (and they blamed it on DC having an issue with the character being older than he should [check the Aaron Ashmore interview from after the finale aired])
Two Olivers? Lex as Oliver?
Dude, your theories are just reaching..
In all reality, TPTB will likely ditch most of the storylines from this season and play up new ones in S9 (as they always do). They have a selective memory.. too much to pull off something as intricate as what your proposing.
The exposition for it itself would be ridiculously convoluted.
But your ideas are wishful thinking. They just aren't likely.
They're work-arounds to explain the showrunner's poor decisions; like killing Lex.Last edited by Superman of Krypton; 06-03-2009, 12:21 AM.Comment
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I can picture a similar outcome without cloning: we have never seen the real Lex on SV. The man whose life we followed for 7 seasons was an alternate Lex from another universe (Earth-Three perhaps). At some point in the past (most likely during the first meteor shower), some sort of "Crisis" ( ) happened and the two Lex's exchanged places although they themselves were not aware of it (maybe Lionel had something to do with it). Thus, it is the alternate Lex who died and is now a ghost. The real Lex is probably still lost in the other universe. He will figure out the situation and, in his usual Lex-like manner, find a way to return. One thing though: time does not flow at the same space in both worlds. The real Lex has lived longer on Earth-Three than the alternate Lex on SV-verse. By the time he finally returns to SV-verse, he will be around 20 years older than Clark.
The other Lex, whose life we have followed for so long, will be a ghost haunting Clark's barn. Perhaps some day he will make a deal with a demon and make his own return.Comment
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Superman of Krypton, you talk like you have an inside intelligence from the writers of Smallville themselves...
There would be no point in mentioning the Prometheus project without some relation to Lex's clone. It's quite possible that Lex's clone was the one in the FOS who was injured.
Another option could be what jpfort1957 stated...
Calling a bald dude Lex for 7 years and summing it all to a random human being, and not the Lex Luthor, has no point and the show becomes flawed. Very flawed.Comment
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This alignment with mythology was the PS3's official excuse for killing off Jimmy (and they blamed it on DC having an issue with the character being older than he should [check the Aaron Ashmore interview from after the finale aired])
Two Olivers? Lex as Oliver?
Dude, your theories are just reaching..
In all reality, TPTB will likely ditch most of the storylines from this season and play up new ones in S9 (as they always do). They have a selective memory.. too much to pull off something as intricate as what your proposing.
The exposition for it itself would be ridiculously convoluted.
But your ideas are wishful thinking. They just aren't likely.
They're work-arounds to explain the showrunner's poor decisions; like killing Lex.
In the end, I think Lex will be lightswitched if Michael appears in the series finale. Instead of having an awesome, developed story where Lex's return is done in steps like my Lex-as-Oliver theory provides, he will just show up with some bulls--t excuse for his return.Comment
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Lex will be back. I think that he was killed in Smallville but you know how they like to time travel so at the end of the series someone will go back in time and save Lex from death and take him to the future so he can go on and be Superman's nemises...Clones age too fast and isn't a good option.Comment
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With the disrespect they showed Jimmy's character, they can easily pull out a brand new Lex who we never saw in the series finale when it will be too late for complaints to hurt the show.
From Doomsday, it's obvious to me that these showrunners have no respect for someone else's (DC's) characters they are writing and have no pride for the show or their work. Instead, the only respect they give is to the character made up for the show by their predecessors (Chloe) and perhaps Lana and they're just doing the show to get a paycheck and could care less what the fans think. Because anyone who cares what the fans think would never have released the garbage that was Doomsday for airing.Comment
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They could give the same explanation as the current comics do since he knows that Clark is Superman currently. Perhaps they can attribute it to some kind of mutual respect between the 2 after everything that happened. Or that knowledge of Clark's secret is power to Lex and exposing him would not benefit Lex, especially since Clark/Superman has always been useful to Lex.Comment
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