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Yeah, it was. But, every season after 7 they changed what it really was. First, it was something to control Clark Kent and his powers. Then, in season 8, it was changed to contain Kandorian cloned DNA; which would be unlocked if Clark killed Doomsday.............which still doesn't make any sense since burying deep underground is not killing him. It's all a giant mess, man. I made up my own theory, but I doubt we'll ever know the real and legit truth about that Orb.
What are your thoughts on the Vertias storyline/Orb?Comment
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Yeah, it was. But, every season after 7 they changed what it really was. First, it was something to control Clark Kent and his powers. Then, in season 8, it was changed to contain Kandorian cloned DNA; which would be unlocked if Clark killed Doomsday.............which still doesn't make any sense since burying deep underground is not killing him. It's all a giant mess, man. I made up my own theory, but I doubt we'll ever know the real and legit truth about that Orb.
What are your thoughts on the Vertias storyline/Orb?Last edited by Dagenspear; 08-01-2015, 05:18 AM.Comment
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-Tess was able to get Lionel's Veritas journal yet Lex has never been able to.
-Another one is why did the knife in Talisman disappear when Lex touched it if he wasn't Clark's greatest enemy?
The existance of the dagger isn't something that lines up with later reveals. However, Jor-El could've sent it, to give his clone powers in a case of an emergency. When Jeremiah was defeated, it disintegrated. Not because of some mystical reason, but because it was supposed to be destroyed, if the wielder was defeated by someone, thus keeping it from ending up in the wrong hands.
-Why was there kryptonite in the st george box and why was it on lionels desk when it was the gift for lex from where ever lionel got it. Did he re-gift it to lex? haha
-It sure did look like Lionel Luthor lived there even though Clark said that Lionel never lived in the castle and had no intention to.
-Why did Davis get cut by the knife when in previous episodes he couldn't be harmed by knives?
-There was plenty of weird stuff, but the most glaring plothole for me would be the whole "Oliver's taking care of it" bit, and then Davis shows up, completely fine in Chloe's basement. Yeah, but wha -- ?!
-You gotta laugh how Lionel's people tracked down Davis right past the spaceship and left it there for somebody else to retrieve
-Lionels men didn't even notice the big egg Doomsday hatched from and ignored that he spoke perfect English.
-I have to rewatch the episode but was it Tess that made the comment that Davis and Clark didn't get along for a reason? If so (unless i'm wrong) ... how would she know that?
Also wasnt it Johnathan not Martha that called in the favor?
-Somehow the Orb magically survived Jor-El's destruction of the fortress and magically found it's way back to Tess Mercer who has never even seen the Orb in person before.Comment
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Yeah, it was. But, every season after 7 they changed what it really was. First, it was something to control Clark Kent and his powers. Then, in season 8, it was changed to contain Kandorian cloned DNA; which would be unlocked if Clark killed Doomsday.............which still doesn't make any sense since burying deep underground is not killing him. It's all a giant mess, man.
It wasn't activated until Lex put the last piece on it, at the end of season 7. It scanned the world (which is how it gave Lex the location of the Fortress) and noticed two beings. One being Doomsday, which it perceived as a threat to Kryptonians, so it didn't start the cloning process. The other being it noticed was a super powered Kryptonian (Clark), so it activated the safeguard that Jor-El built into it. It's not until several days after Doomsday is killed, that the Orb finds it safe to create the clones.
As to why Doomsday was killed. He could always be killed, he was just resurrected afterwards. But, in the season 8 finale, they used black K to split Davis from Doomsday. Removing half of one being's DNA. No longer having its complete DNA, Doomsday was unable to resurrect itself and remained dead. They fleshed out on this in "Argo", where Doomsday is brought back to life in the 31st Century, by having the DNA of the unborn child of the Zod and Faora clones (a genetic sibling of Davis) integrated into it. Confirming that the removal of the Davis Bloome DNA caused a genetic flaw in Doomsday, preventing it from being resurrected.Comment
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Also we learn in "Pilot" that Lionel was looking for Lex.Since we know how much of a heartless bastard he was towards him,how come he didn't ditch him to join up with his men searching for the ship and the Traveler? Instead he tracks Lex,looks horrified and then hitches a ride with the Kents.Comment
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Watching this episode again makes me think that in their originals plans that they either didn't think of having Doomsday on the show (back in planning seasons ahead) or they didn't think of plans for the show past season 5. I mean, if they thought they would use Doomsday on the show, they probably should've shown Davis in the original Pilot coming to Earth just like Clark and played up the mystery of that boy for the next several seasons until they finally do the Doomsday angle. Sort of like what they did in the Flash TV show where they played up the Infinite Crisis angle in bits in the first 5 seasons and now it's happening in season 6.
I say this because why did it take until season 8 for Davis/Doomsday to finally be in the same area as Clark? They said Davis would be drawn to Clark and I get Brainic was key point as well, but what was Davis/Doomsday doing in seasons 1-7. I wonder if Lex stayed on for season 8, if Doomsday still would've been the plan. I just think with the plot holes pointed out in here that they had to twist some things around in order to make the Doomsday plot fit in the present.Comment
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Doubt anyone thought that this show would run for ten years. 4-5 at the most. Just look at the previous two Superman live-action shows:
Superboy: 1988-1992 (four seasons).
Lois & Clark: 1993-1997 (four seasons).
Imagine that you were involved with this show, during the development stage, in 2001. Someone walks up to you and informs you that this new show will run longer than the previous two combined. You wouldn't believe them. No live-action superhero show could run for ten years. The longest was Adventures of Superman, at six seasons, which had aired in the 50's.
Also, bad example with The Flash. It came out in 2014, when it had been proven that a superhero show could run for ten seasons. Not to mention, the crisis mentioned was originally supposed to take place in 2024. Dwindling ratings for all four Arrowverse shows have forced them to move it up to 2019, in an attempt to create buzz for the Arrowverse. Crisis on Infinite Earths isn't a payoff to longform storytelling, it's a gimmick to boost ratings. One that will backfire, as you can't do that storyline justice on a CW budget. It will be an underwhelming for those of you who bother watching it (I won't as I got bored and stopped watching The Flash after season 3). After it, the ratings will go down again. They're taking jumping the shark into a cosmic level (only they can't afford the shark for long).Last edited by jon-el87; 08-21-2019, 12:59 PM.Comment
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Doubt anyone thought that this show would run for ten years. 4-5 at the most. Just look at the previous two Superman live-action shows:
Superboy: 1988-1992 (four seasons).
Lois & Clark: 1993-1997 (four seasons).
Imagine that you were involved with this show, during the development stage, in 2001. Someone walks up to you and informs you that this new show will run longer than the previous two combined. You wouldn't believe them. No live-action superhero show could run for ten years. The longest was Adventures of Superman, at six seasons, which had aired in the 50's.
Also, bad example with The Flash. It came out in 2014, when it had been proven that a superhero show could run for ten seasons. Not to mention, the crisis mentioned was originally supposed to take place in 2024. Dwindling ratings for all four Arrowverse shows have forced them to move it up to 2019, in an attempt to create buzz for the Arrowverse. Crisis on Infinite Earths isn't a payoff to longform storytelling, it's a gimmick to boost ratings. One that will backfire, as you can't do that storyline justice on a CW budget. It will be an underwhelming for those of you who bother watching it (I won't as I got bored and stopped watching The Flash after season 3). After it, the ratings will go down again. They're taking jumping the shark into a cosmic level (only they can't afford the shark for long).
And after watching this episode again, I think a lot of things made more sense to me to now than when I was first watched it back it when it aired Live and a few times after that. Sure, some things might have been changed from the past in order to make it fit with the present storyline, but none that really bothered me that much now. And yeah bad example using The Flash....wasn't really thinking through on that one. I apologize for that. Won't be the first time I been wrong and won't be the last.Comment
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