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[superhippie2000]

give your feedback here.

[Lexgirl33]

10, Loved it!!

[superman07]

10, Loved it!!

I second that notion.:D

[FLyxNERD]

heroes is gettin better with each episode

[Ginx]

10/10

Granted there were certain things I would have rather been explained or left out but overall, loved the future scenes, really enjoyed learning more about Sylar, seeing Peter go a bit dark side, and just building up to what's to come... whatever that might be :)

[loistickyfingerz]

I thought it was better than last week. Long live the return of Adam!

If Tracy becomes as whiny as Nikki I will wish her a similar demise.

Why can't they bring back copy cat girl? She was cool.

Oh, and who was Sylar's baby mama?

[Dezdmona]

Very good...raises more questions.

[silverdragon]

rated 10 - awesome episode

love where they're going with peter's character this season with exploring the effects of getting sylar's power...

Enjoyed all the future scenes...

and so love that adam's back...

as to the question of who's sylar's baby mama...i so want to know....

[STFanatic]

I had to watch it on DVR so I didn't get in here sooner, but....

Holy poop-on-a-stick Batman!

That was awesome!!

[Jaderoyale]

WOW.
I loved it :p
I loved the whole future scene with Sylar... sorry Gabriel, Peter, Daphne, the mixed race guy (i can't remember his name) and Claire. That was awesome.
Mohinder is freaking me out.

[warriorrenegade]

I didn't like the episode overall. Some parts were good drama, but some just fell flat for me. Like Claire and her bid to capture F-Peter, just isn't interesting to me until I know more of what motivates her. Also the whole Parkman/Bushman storyline. It's confusing does Bushman have powers or is it all "drug" related. How does the drug work? How can Parkman see the future? Why does Bushman only paint Parkman? For me its too many How's and Why's and WTH's. It feels like the show is headed towards Lost territory. Too many questions and not enough answers. And could Ali Larter play Nikki/Tracey/Barbara or whoever she is, with less angst and drama? That's what made her character "expendible" in the long run. People got tired of the "whoa is me" attitude and constant whinning about her powers. If anything...bring back Micah and DL. They atleast want(ed) to do good and were accepting of their powers. Anyways. If I had to give it a grade. I'd go a C- or a 6.5/10

[Sweetie]

Excellent episode!There's too many things going on,not enough explanations but,overall it was awesome.Mohinder is getting cooler by the moment,too bad his good look won't survived the metamorsphosis.

Can't wait for next week.Adam is back "Hiro,you son of a *****" :lol:

[Jaded Wolf]

Peter gaining Sylar's powers were interesting but I thought Peter gained powers from exposure to other powered heroes? This confused me when the future Peter was killed by Claire and he didn't revive. He's been around Claire before so the healing powers should have been there.

Otherwise a very good episode. Sylar setting off a nuclear explosion was great. Did he not look like Clark Kent in those scenes in the future. I think this guy should get pegged for Superman. Quit casting soap opera stars and instead get someone who could actually pull it off.

The Hiro and Ando scenes are getting tiresome though. I'm glad their scenes were shortened for this episode.

[superpal1]

Like the episode gave it a nine. Believe Future Claire said that F-Peter was still alive and sometime after scene killed him. Could be wrong and if I am than the writers need to explain things better, because he should not be dead. Hiro and Ando dont bother me yet, I still think they are comical, but I see where you are coming from.

[Xanderman]

8/10 - Good episode but I have some issues. For one, I think they're going a little overboard with the whole "future/present/back to future again" thing. It's almost as if they feel they can't create a compelling story that doesn't involve trying to avoid some foretold disaster. It's getting a little repetitive.

The whole Matt storyline I'm finding very lame right now. Now he's painting the future too? Wth? Everybody getting all sorts of powers doesn't sit right with me. It cheapens it. The show is cheapening itself unnecessarily.

So looks like Peter is destined to become the villain I guess, just as Sylar sort of "predicted" in a way back in the season one finale when he claimed that he himself was the hero, not Peter. Perhaps he saw Peter's weakness in character even then, that he's easily swayed/turned. He was afterall easily manipulated by Adam.

I'm finding Future Claire a little annoying, coming off as a whiny little brat. lol The fact that she is always so quick to shoot/try to kill Peter means Peter must have really done some bad things in his past I guess...I think they mentioned hundreds of thousands of people died because of something he did? I can't remember...

Why did that wifebeater come after Mohinder unarmed? Lol I found that very stupid writing, considering he must have "felt" how powerful Mohinder was when he was first manhandled by him. A barefisted man-to-man fight started by a cowardly wifebeater? Lol not buying. He should have been armed with something.

I loved the ending, with Adam getting dug out by the series' clowns Hiro and Ando. Looks like Adam wasn't awake/conscious the whole time, like I and a few others predicted last season (as afterall without air/food/water, he can't derive energy to maintain brain activity). He was probably in some sort of sleep/dormant state, protected from true death/decay by his ability. And then once back in an environment that supported life, he "reactivated". Just as how objects stuck in their heads prevented brain activity/life, so does a "no air/food/water/energy source" environment.

Anyway, still a very fun show but it seems to be getting a little overly convoluted. They need to cut back on the whole time travel stuff and endless would-be futures. Their convenient/cheap paradox-avoiding time travel setup, where the past can be changed and stuff, has apparently given them the "all clear" to run wild.

[loistickyfingerz]

Peter gaining Sylar's powers were interesting but I thought Peter gained powers from exposure to other powered heroes? This confused me when the future Peter was killed by Claire and he didn't revive. He's been around Claire before so the healing powers should have been there.


Future Peter died when Claire shot him because the Haitian was standing near by. Living Peter literally ran into him while he was escaping.

[Lex'sLover]

totally loved it! I actually likedthe Sylar/Son relationship!

[Pamela]

Peter gaining Sylar's powers were interesting but I thought Peter gained powers from exposure to other powered heroes? This confused me when the future Peter was killed by Claire and he didn't revive. He's been around Claire before so the healing powers should have been there.

Otherwise a very good episode. Sylar setting off a nuclear explosion was great. Did he not look like Clark Kent in those scenes in the future. I think this guy should get pegged for Superman. Quit casting soap opera stars and instead get someone who could actually pull it off.

The Hiro and Ando scenes are getting tiresome though. I'm glad their scenes were shortened for this episode.

I agree about the Hiro and Ando scenes. I'm also getting tired of Hiro looking like he's constipated when he has trouble time traveling!

[The Ninth Doctor]

I loved the ending, with Adam getting dug out by the series' clowns Hiro and Ando. Looks like Adam wasn't awake/conscious the whole time, like I and a few others predicted last season (as afterall without air/food/water, he can't derive energy to maintain brain activity). He was probably in some sort of sleep/dormant state, protected from true death/decay by his ability. And then once back in an environment that supported life, he "reactivated". Just as how objects stuck in their heads prevented brain activity/life, so does a "no air/food/water/energy source" environment.


The crazy thing is that the Claire reveal seemed like it would prove us wrong- if she can never, ever, die, then she already violates conservation of energy and there's no need for the dormant state. But lo and behold, Adam at least works the way that was predicted last season.




7/10 for me. Still a great, wonderful episode, with some awesome moments, but also quite a few blunders. (Now, I consider a Heroes blunder would be a moment of brilliance on most other shows.)

Mohinder/Maya- I still don't like Mo getting powers, even if the cockroach idea is intrigueing. The whole wifebeater thing was a mess. Did he eat him at the end or something?

Also, Maya was insanely whiny this episode, to the point where I could not stop laughing at every line. It was like the writer's were just giving in to the character's popular perception.


Matt/AfroIssac/Daphne- I don't like the Matt/Daphne pairing, it's way to random for me. Afro-Isaac is an awesome. Matt painting- eh, I don't like the idea of power branches in general for the show, but since they made that leap last season, I'm not bothered by his most recent upgrade.

Hiro/Ando- tension is still seaming a bit forced to me.

Nathan/Tracy- They resolved the Tracy thing in the most boring way possible. Triplets. yaaaayyyyyyy. The Blonde Bunch seem to always start out with great potential, that gets quickly wasted by the writers. Also, another affair?! Right after an uber-conversion? No. Just no.


Now, the real meat of the episode- TEH FUTURE!!!!11one!
Numero Uno- Why did Peter die? He got hit in the chest. With Claire standing right there. Does not compute.

Dos- Why did peter die? He was an extremely interesting character, and tension between F2Peter and zomgbrainsPeter would have been great.

Tres- Sylar. I wasn't as ticked off at Sylar reforming as I thought I might be. He made for a very interesting character. Also, he confirmed that his ability is way different compared to the other abilities, because Peter couldn't just copy it outright. There's no way that he should have been taken out that easily though. Nox should have never gotten near him, and he should have never lost control. He had that power mastered within minutes of acquiring it. It's been six years. He should be able to handle it.

Quatro- Claire. Meh. She acted dumb. A lot. They tried to make her BA. Did they succeed...dunno really.

Cinco- Mohinder. Horribly expository. Ugh. Should have been a great scene, it ended up corny.

Seis- Peter. Peter Peter Peter. This could be an amazing plotline. If they get rid of the idiot ball he's been holding for the past few seasons. We'll just have to wait and see.

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Also, the whole future is horrible lets save the world plot three times in a row is a little boring- but it was necessary, to save the show. They needed a massive Vol 3 to get the viewers back.

[wooosmallville]

i think this episode was phenomenal.
of course tracy is going to act a little whiny. she never knew about this ability and killed someone. i mean how would you feel if you kill someone?
the matt and daphne pairing could have its reason. we were 4 years into the future..a lot could have happened then. we don't even know how knox, daphne, and claire end up working together.
the future is setting the present day up nicely.

i agree that there are way too many questions being left unanswered. but give it time people. there is a lot of season left for things to be explained. be patient! the writers won't let us down

[Saber]

I had to give it a 7, it was too much to fast to process.

Peter is there, he’s here, he’s in that person’s body, he’s back in Sylar’s cell, he’s dead, he’s alive, he’s in Sylar’s house. The man is going to get jet lag.
I just want a little more heroes in a slightly more simple form and not so much a red robin game.

I’m a bit discouraged with this season but I do want to connect with the characters but it seems like they are going for the shock effect as oppose to storytelling. All of sudden everyone and their mother has powers and there aren’t enough powerless people to balance them out.
Even so it was still fun TV to watch.

[Karafan1]

I loved it, especially the special effects when Sylar blew up Costa Verde...

[warriorrenegade]

I had to give it a 7, it was too much to fast to process.

Peter is there, he’s here, he’s in that person’s body, he’s back in Sylar’s cell, he’s dead, he’s alive, he’s in Sylar’s house. The man is going to get jet lag.
I just want a little more heroes in a slightly more simple form and not so much a red robin game.

I’m a bit discouraged with this season but I do want to connect with the characters but it seems like they are going for the shock effect as oppose to storytelling. All of sudden everyone and their mother has powers and there aren’t enough powerless people to balance them out.
Even so it was still fun TV to watch.


You maybe right. Re-watching the episode. I counted 4 or 5? storylines in the teaser alone. And that's coupled with the "previously on Heroes". Now I don't know if that has always been the case and I'm just noticing it now. But It does feel like everything is crammed in there.

[Xanderman]

The crazy thing is that the Claire reveal seemed like it would prove us wrong- if she can never, ever, die, then she already violates conservation of energy and there's no need for the dormant state. But lo and behold, Adam at least works the way that was predicted last season.Yeah they're not being terribly clear or consistent with this power are they. That's one of my peeves with Heroes--I mean it took them long enough to show us that Sylar for sure doesn't eat brains to get powers, and even then what they did reveal is still subject to interpretation. Keeping so many things mysterious/unexplained constantly is annoying. Back to Claire, and of course she isn't truly immortal either way given that her "immortality" can be turned off by the Haitian. Then she's easy pickin's.


Numero Uno- Why did Peter die? He got hit in the chest. With Claire standing right there. Does not compute.I think the Haitian was around wasn't he?


Nox should have never gotten near him, and he should have never lost control. He had that power mastered within minutes of acquiring it. It's been six years. He should be able to handle it. Totally agree about the Nox thing. Just a cheap way to have the kid harmed so Sylar would go nuts and blow up. (btw I think Sylar blew up on purpose, it wasn't really a loss of control--with the kid dead he was in "revenge against the world/I don't care about anything anymore" mode I think....this is assuming the kid was indeed dead or at least Sylar thought he was)

And I agree about F-Claire acting dumb and the Mohinder/wifebeater stuff being a mess. But my biggest criticism is how powers are so commonplace now, how not only does everybody seem to have them, but some have access to multiple powers (like Matt eating that goop and painting the future now too). They are totally cheapening the core concept of this series.


Also, the whole future is horrible lets save the world plot three times in a row is a little boring- but it was necessary, to save the show. They needed a massive Vol 3 to get the viewers back.Yeah they need to give that whole "visit the future/future is bad so let's try to fix it" stuff a rest. I mean Hiro's talked about saving the world so many times that it (and himself along with it) is becoming a joke--I mean who cares if they "save the world" if it's just going to continue to need saving again and again and again almost immediately after? They are totally over-playing the "world needs saving" card. But like you said, I guess they feel this is the only way they think they can get (or get back) viewer attention.

[The Ninth Doctor]

I think the Haitian was around wasn't he?
I don't remember him being around then, just at the end of the ep. I'll look for it when I watch the commentaries. But I guess he might have been around the corner, even if we didn't see him.




(btw I think Sylar blew up on purpose, it wasn't really a loss of control--with the kid dead he was in "revenge against the world/I don't care about anything anymore" mode I think....this is assuming the kid was indeed dead or at least Sylar thought he was)
That does make a lot more sense.


But my biggest criticism is how powers are so commonplace now, how not only does everybody seem to have them

My big theory is that, given Kaito's comments about the "pureblood" at the start of the season, and the teaser this past ep that implies that a ton of the Evolved Humans are really faux Evolved Humans, that Claire's blood is going to end up depowering a huge portion of the populace.

[thefilmguy22384]

Well apparently everyone else liked this episode on here. I thought the episode betrayed many of the characters on the show. They changed characters around in ways that don't make any sense. I don't believe that Claire would turn into what she was in the future. I mean that was crazy. Not only was she trying to kill Peter but then she wanted to torture him. She has lost all of her likability to me now. I really could care less about her. Not just because of who she could become but how she has been lately. She has just been getting increasingly more dramatic and annoying. She has become the Lana Lang of the show. Lana started off likable but as the show went on she just started getting repetitive and irritatingly dramatic. The whole future Sylar thing I'm really not too happy with either. He is supposed to be this shows big villain. The equivalent to Lex Luthor or The Joker or Magneto. They set him up so well to be that. They have done a great job of it. Now to suddenly shift it and try to make him a good guy. You just cant do that. Can anyone imagine The Joker being a good guy? I love the character of Sylar, but I love the character as the villain. To make him into what he was in the future betrays everything the character has stood for up until now. Also making Peter into a killer? I don't even see why future Peter would tell present Peter to take that power knowing the danger that it has. That doesn't make alot of sense. Look at what they are doing to Mohinder for Christ's sake. For one thing the entire storyline is a rip off The Fly, but beyond that taking that formula is not something that Mohinder would ever do. The Mohinder from season one never would have done that. Now he is a murderer apparently on top of that. Almost every character on this show has been betrayed at their core minus a few like Hiro. But so many, ones that were some of my favorite heroes, are now becoming unlikable. Now of course the show is probably just toying with the idea of heroes being tempted by their dark sides and they may pull themselves back before its too late. Many of these characters though are not acting like themselves and are doing things that they wouldn't do. It almost feels like new writers are writing for the show that don't understand the characters too well. I know that many seem to disagree on here apparently. Just my opinion.


So looks like Peter is destined to become the villain I guess, just as Sylar sort of "predicted" in a way back in the season one finale when he claimed that he himself was the hero, not Peter. Perhaps he saw Peter's weakness in character even then, that he's easily swayed/turned. He was afterall easily manipulated by Adam.

No. Remember in the first season finale when Peter was talking to Charles. Charles said that Peter was meant to be a hero. "There has to be one that's good. There always has. And your heart has the ability to love unconditionally". Charles was telling Peter that the qaulity that he possesses for unconditional love is what makes him destined to be a hero. This is not the character trait of a villain. Peter may have been easily manipulated by Adam, which I think was more of a writing mistake more so then it was anything else. But as soon as Peter realized what Adam was doing he rushed to the vile and destroyed it saving the world. Peter has saved and helped so many. The reason he wanted to be a nurse in the first place was for this inner desire he has to save others. Peter is a hero. They have already established that. The shows probably just having him be tempted by his dark side but who he is as a person wont let him in the end I think. Peter is a better person at the core then Sylar ever was. Sylar has only ever cared about personal gain where as Peter has only cared about the well being of others.

[ginnyfan]

I didn't like it. I felt that everything we saw in the future undermined the present.

I would have liked to watch Claire develop into someone evil.

I would have liked to watch Sylar develop into Mama Petrelli's good son.

The only reveal that worked was Mohinder's and that's because we actually got to see him turning into a monster before the future reveal.

I would have liked to watch Tracy and Nathan's relationship develop.

I really needed to see future!Peter's world. I needed to see that his panic was justified. I didn't see that. It seemed to me that his bumbling simply caused the world he was trying to change.

Now I guess all that was set up in the beginning of Season 3 is going on the scrap heap so that Hiro, Ando and Adam can somehow change the future. LAME.

I was VERY happy to see Adam again. But what's the reason for unearthing him? The guy who was going to destroy the WORLD with a virus. We are releasing him why? *shrug* Mama Petrelli says so.

Maybe that should have been the title of this season. Mama Petrelli said so!

ETA: I can't stand Ghost!Linderman.

[Xanderman]

My big theory is that, given Kaito's comments about the "pureblood" at the start of the season, and the teaser this past ep that implies that a ton of the Evolved Humans are really faux Evolved Humans, that Claire's blood is going to end up depowering a huge portion of the populace.So people like Mohinder of course aren't purebloods, right. Anybody who wasn't born with the ability/evolved dna I assume? Are you saying some current 'heroes' (like from first season) aren't purebloods, but "faux heroes"? So, is that what HRG/the company was doing when they were kidnapping some of the characters back then? Were they injecting them with something similar to what Mohinder made?



No. Remember in the first season finale when Peter was talking to Charles. Charles said that Peter was meant to be a hero. "There has to be one that's good. There always has. And your heart has the ability to love unconditionally". Charles was telling Peter that the qaulity that he possesses for unconditional love is what makes him destined to be a hero. This is not the character trait of a villain. Peter may have been easily manipulated by Adam, which I think was more of a writing mistake more so then it was anything else. But as soon as Peter realized what Adam was doing he rushed to the vile and destroyed it saving the world. Peter has saved and helped so many. The reason he wanted to be a nurse in the first place was for this inner desire he has to save others. Peter is a hero. They have already established that. The shows probably just having him be tempted by his dark side but who he is as a person wont let him in the end I think. Peter is a better person at the core then Sylar ever was. Sylar has only ever cared about personal gain where as Peter has only cared about the well being of others.I agree that Peter will probably end up doing the right thing, but not before he does a lot of bad things. Afterall F-Peter shot his own brother like a coward instead of just talking to him first to try to convince him like a normal, good person would. Also F-Claire totally hated Peter with a vengeance, so I'm assuming there had to be some real basis for that. And now, this new Peter will probably be even worse than that other Peter now that he has Sylar's power. I think Peter is weaker willed than Sylar. He is much more easily seduced and tricked, making him a good candidate for succumbing to dark impulses and desires. We saw how the hunger caused him to cut open his own brother's head in that future, possibly killing him (I don't think we found out). And as we saw Sylar was shown to be a good (or at least better) person in that future, therefore capable of being redeemed--so I don't think he's going to end up being the real "villain of the story" at all. Perhaps Peter will turn out to be the worst villain of them all, an Anakin Skywalker to Darth Vader type of transformation. Peter/Nathan's father wasn't really a good guy either was he, and his mother is pretty messed up herself, so it's not really that far-fetched that Peter will end up following in their footsteps (at least for a time). I agree he will probably earn some redemption in the end, do the right thing, just as Vader did, but for now I think Peter's path will be a dark one. But perhaps it's too soon to say for sure.

[thefilmguy22384]

I agree that Peter will probably end up doing the right thing, but not before he does a lot of bad things. Afterall F-Peter shot his own brother like a coward instead of just talking to him first to try to convince him like a normal, good person would. Also F-Claire totally hated Peter with a vengeance, so I'm assuming there had to be some real basis for that. And now, this new Peter will probably be even worse than that other Peter now that he has Sylar's power. I think Peter is weaker willed than Sylar. He is much more easily seduced and tricked, making him a good candidate for succumbing to dark impulses and desires.

I agree that he will probably explore his dark side a little. But keep in mind that there is a big difference from Peter to Sylar. Sylar embraced his dark side. After his first kill he wanted more. Remember after he killed that guy with telekinesis he went back to Suresh proud about the power he has obtained at the price of someone elses life. As soon as Peter attacked future Nathan he immediately reacted with shock and guilt. I think this dark side will only last for this season. This season has a theme and an arc of heroes being tempted by their dark sides. I think that Peter will be resolved and he will do the right thing in the end by the end of the season. Another thing that you have to keep in mind with Sylar is that there was more to his murdering then just his power. After all even with out his power in season 2 he still killed people. Which is actually kind of confusing because now Sylar is saying that it was only his power that made him kill but obviously thats not true from what happened last season. The only explanation that I can find is that having a child made him turn towards trying to better himself. Anyways though it's been proven that Sylar's murders were not soley because of his power. There was always some kind of darkness in him. He always had a want and a thirst to become more then he was. He obviously had a slightly unstable upbringing with a mother that never made him, or apparently his father, feel like they were ever enough. Peter has always had a good heart. All he ever wanted to do was to help others. Thats again why he started off as a nurse. Also Charles recognized this in him. Peter has been established as a better man than Sylar ever was. He has the ability for "unconditional love" which is something Sylar didn't have. Sylar only cared about himself until apparently he had a son.

Also I wouldn't really take future Claire as evidense of what type of person Peter is. After all she was with that villain from the bank. These same people were responsible for the death of Sylar's son. Future Claire seems to have gone down a dark path. We could see the origins to it with her in the present. She is getting darker with her loss of all physical feeling. She is talking about how she doesn't even feel alive any more. Future Peter, though a bit more of an extremist, still seemed to want to help. He was trying to prevent that future. Claire after all was the one trying to kill him. He had a chance to kill her in the first episode to this season but he didn't. He also swooped down and stopped Claire from getting hit by that train in the present. He still seems to mean well. As far as him killing Nathan instead of just talking to him again I think is just a writers mistake. They just needed a big catalyst for the season to start and they were willing to go against logic to do that. The characters have all done things that it doesn't make sense for them to do this season. Mohinder being the prime exmaple. He never would have played god and taken that formula. The writers had him do it though because for some reason they thought that it would be a good idea and that some how no one would recognize that its ripping off The Fly. So I don't think Peter would have shot Nathan. I think he would have talked to him. The writers just thought it would be more shocking and a bigger opener if he shot him.

[Xanderman]

^you make a lot of good points. You're right, F-Claire was probably more messed up than F-Peter was---she was indeed part of a posse of criminals/murderers. I forgot about that. Good point about the loss of feeling likely being connected to it. Not feeling things like physical pain will probably eventually make her cold and unfeeling on the inside as well.

[HWichita]

I give it a C+

I hate doing all the time travel stuff all the time.It reminds me of Star Trek Next Generation over using the Holedeck.It takes away from the focus of the show.

Liked, even though it was not a shock what Mama's powers are and that Sylar and Peter are brothers it was nice to bring get it out in the open so it can open up some plot lines.

Like the development that Sylars power induces a craving that seems to increased by Sylars desire to improve himself. It makes him a little more sympathetic in my eyes.

Hate to many "specials", especially ones with what I would call flashy powers. If you get to many out their it undermines the premise of special people living amongst us unnoticed. And it takes away from the main Heroes. Or they could explain how they have stayed hidden so well. Maybe part of their genetic makeup is a desire their power a secret.

Liked the speedster, she acts like someone who had that ability would act. Which we have not seen enough of.

What I would like to see is!
Peter stop acting like a wimp. It appears he may be turning the corner.
Sylar and Peter using a wider variety of their powers.
Heroes using their powers in normal situations, heroically sometimes.

[The Ninth Doctor]

So people like Mohinder of course aren't purebloods, right. Anybody who wasn't born with the ability/evolved dna I assume? Are you saying some current 'heroes' (like from first season) aren't purebloods, but "faux heroes"? So, is that what HRG/the company was doing when they were kidnapping some of the characters back then? Were they injecting them with something similar to what Mohinder made?
He said that there was one pureblood in every generation, so I don't think he's referring to the real Evolved Humans vs the Faux Evolved Humans.

I do think thought that the Company was injecting people, with the Company Formula that Hiro had half of, possibly before HRG's time. Zimmerman was clearly with the company, and he was pictured with the German. If HRG was around when Zimmerman was injecting people, I'm thinking he'd know the German's name, due to their connection.

[LuthorKent90]

Was anyone else freaked out with the whole Daphne motherly role/Ending up with Parkman?She reminds me too much of a knockoff Bart Allen (not only her ability, but her personality and her thieving ways:eek:) it was odd.:lol: