View Full Version : Chloe.....possessive?
AndiGirl
10-02-2008, 07:34 PM
Now...you all know I love chloe, but what was she thinking at the party?? She was either jealous....or just being rude. First she makes a comment about Lois and Clark being attached at the hip....and implying things. Then her line "you two spend more time together then me and jimmy...and we're engaged." Sorry Chloe...but I think that says more about your relationship with your fiance then it does about Clark.
Then she says Clark has been getting close to Tess....and "dont tell me her long waving hair and green eyes have nothing to do with that."
I dont know...I kind of cringed at Chloe tonight....for a girl in the previous episode who decided things would change after you got married, you were pretty possessive of clark. Accusing him of being attracted to every woman he talks to.
pharaoh8
10-02-2008, 07:36 PM
what can you say. i mean look at clark. wouldn't it be hard for you to let him go?
it would be for me.
AndiGirl
10-02-2008, 07:37 PM
what can you say. i mean look at clark. wouldn't it be hard for you to let him go?
it would be for me.
Oh...I have no doubt it would be hard!! :lol:
But I dont think the way to win our boy over is making jabs at him.....
It seemed a bit out of character to me..
pharaoh8
10-02-2008, 07:39 PM
yeah that is true. maybe this new power is making her a little looney.
silverdragon
10-02-2008, 07:44 PM
Now...you all know I love chloe, but what was she thinking at the party?? She was either jealous....or just being rude. First she makes a comment about Lois and Clark being attached at the hip....and implying things. Then her line "you two spend more time together then me and jimmy...and we're engaged." Sorry Chloe...but I think that says more about your relationship with your fiance then it does about Clark.
Then she says Clark has been getting close to Tess....and "dont tell me her long waving hair and green eyes have nothing to do with that."
I dont know...I kind of cringed at Chloe tonight....for a girl in the previous episode who decided things would change after you got married, you were pretty possessive of clark. Accusing him of being attracted to every woman he talks to.
i know... i was like what the hell? especially when she was talking about lois and clark...
did it occur to her that she is the onr to blame on not anyone else...take responisibilty for own actions chloe...
Meteror Freak
10-02-2008, 07:44 PM
Chloe's ALWAYS done that. She's done that with EVERY girl clark has ever been close to. She's jealous, and I think the writers who write her lines are trying to convey that.
Liquid-Prince
10-02-2008, 07:47 PM
Now...you all know I love chloe, but what was she thinking at the party?? She was either jealous....or just being rude. First she makes a comment about Lois and Clark being attached at the hip....and implying things. Then her line "you two spend more time together then me and jimmy...and we're engaged." Sorry Chloe...but I think that says more about your relationship with your fiance then it does about Clark.
Then she says Clark has been getting close to Tess....and "dont tell me her long waving hair and green eyes have nothing to do with that."
I dont know...I kind of cringed at Chloe tonight....for a girl in the previous episode who decided things would change after you got married, you were pretty possessive of clark. Accusing him of being attracted to every woman he talks to.
She's being defensive. She wants Clark...badly...
AndiGirl
10-02-2008, 07:49 PM
Chloe's ALWAYS done that. She's done that with EVERY girl clark has ever been close to. She's jealous, and I think the writers who write her lines are trying to convey that.
I think she can be jealous from time to time.....but never like she was tonight.
She was border line rude. She's usually better at playing it off...and being more playful about it. She was just blunt....and out of character tonight.
She is like clark ... in the sense that she wants him to be happy, so she usually laughs about the girls he's attracted to...and teases him about it, like a friend would. But tonight...it was just accusations. Weird. :eek:
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She's being defensive. She wants Clark...badly...
I know...I just think she's going about it all wrong. :p
kris10
10-02-2008, 07:50 PM
i think that she misses the interaction....hasnt clark done the same thing with her and when she isnt there to be his super pc...they both do it...plus i think that her power might be messing with her personality a little....she was pulling some things from left field...i mean davis knows her power and jimmy doesnt that FFD up
Liquid-Prince
10-02-2008, 07:51 PM
I think she can be jealous from time to time.....but never like she was tonight.
She was border line rude. She's usually better at playing it off...and being more playful about it. She was just blunt....and out of character tonight.
She is like clark ... in the sense that she wants him to be happy, so she usually laughs about the girls he's attracted to...and teases him about it, like a friend would. But tonight...it was just accusations. Weird. :eek:
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I know...I just think she's going about it all wrong. :p
It's like kindergarten, when you like someone you pick on them :D
individuall
10-02-2008, 07:51 PM
I think she can be jealous from time to time.....but never like she was tonight.
She was border line rude. She's usually better at playing it off...and being more playful about it. She was just blunt....and out of character tonight.
She i like clark...and wants him to be happy, so she usually laughs about the girls he's attracted to...and teases him about it, like a friend would. But tonight...it was just accusations. Weird. :eek:
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I know...I just think she's going about it all wrong. :p
It did seem a little off...But tonight..I thought Chloe overall was a bit..'Blunt'...Maybe her new powers are making her cranky...Maybe she gets frequent headaches now...And she also yelled at Clark when he questioned her about her new abilities....I think Chloe was just having a cranky day...
WickedJenn
10-02-2008, 07:52 PM
Now...you all know I love chloe, but what was she thinking at the party?? She was either jealous....or just being rude. First she makes a comment about Lois and Clark being attached at the hip....and implying things. Then her line "you two spend more time together then me and jimmy...and we're engaged." Sorry Chloe...but I think that says more about your relationship with your fiance then it does about Clark.
Then she says Clark has been getting close to Tess....and "dont tell me her long waving hair and green eyes have nothing to do with that."
I dont know...I kind of cringed at Chloe tonight....for a girl in the previous episode who decided things would change after you got married, you were pretty possessive of clark. Accusing him of being attracted to every woman he talks to.
I noticed that too Andi.
I mean, figuring that they are working as partners they would be spending a lot of time together. But from what I gather, I don't think that once they're done work they still do.
kris10
10-02-2008, 07:55 PM
yea i think that andi is right too....so why is she marrying jimmy again???? i mean if two people that are friends are closer than 2 people that are engaged that says a lot..
doodie8808
10-02-2008, 07:56 PM
Yeah Chole Was A ***** Tonite She Got On My Nerves So Bad I Muted Her When She Came One
WickedJenn
10-02-2008, 08:01 PM
Andi, I am wondering though, do you think it's a little of Brainiac's influence on her?
avisray1992
10-02-2008, 08:03 PM
Andi, I am wondering though, do you think it's a little of Brainiac's influence on her?
I know I'm not Andi, but that's exactly what I was thinking and you beat me to posting about it ;)
AndiGirl
10-02-2008, 08:04 PM
Yeah Chole Was A ***** Tonite She Got On My Nerves So Bad I Muted Her When She Came One
Alright guys...lets try to keep it friendly ok? ;)
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Andi, I am wondering though, do you think it's a little of Brainiac's influence on her?
I really hope so....but then, it's going to set up this season to be kind of creepy if thats the case! :lol:
I mean...she's getting married, ect....and I dont want to think thats Brainiac. But I did notice she seemed to be rather snippy throughout the entire episode....
Kind of out of character really. Even when she said "looks like Ollie started the party in the limo..." then she laughed, I thought "uh...Chloe, he's falling over...maybe you should help?"
It just seemed weird to me. :eek:
So, it would make sense if its brainiac slowly taking over....so she's still herself, but getting a bit darker.
WickedJenn
10-02-2008, 08:13 PM
I really hope so....but then, it's going to set up this season to be kind of creepy if thats the case! :lol:
I mean...she's getting married, ect....and I dont want to think thats Brainiac. But I did notice she seemed to be rather snippy throughout the entire episode....
Kind of out of character really. Even when she said "looks like Ollie started the party in the limo..." then she laughed, I thought "uh...Chloe, he's falling over...maybe you should help?"
It just seemed weird to me. :eek:
So, it would make sense if its brainiac slowly taking over....so she's still herself, but getting a bit darker.
I agree, it did seem out of character for her.
The bolded part, I think that might be it right there.
AndiGirl That's what Allison said would happen in the TVGuide.com interview, wrt Chloe getting darker courtesy of Brainiac.
I didn't get a "jealous" vibe from Chloe wrt Clark and Lois, she was just being a bit witchy, because she also seemed off wrt Oliver falling all over the place. She didn't react how "Chloe" would react,imo. Frankly after a season of no emotion from her, I'm glad to see she's being more blunt about things. Granted it's probvably Brainiac, but hopefully (if Brainiac is taken out of her) she'll keep that bluntness about her.
SnowBird
10-02-2008, 08:19 PM
I think that Brainiac is starting to take over and some true feelings are surfacing. She is jealous of Lois and Tess by what she said. Clark is concerned and rightly so. She isn't herself and her new ability is a little spooky.
AndiGirl
10-02-2008, 08:22 PM
AndiGirl That's what Allison said would happen in the TVGuide.com interview, wrt Chloe getting darker courtesy of Brainiac.
I didn't get a "jealous" vibe from Chloe wrt Clark and Lois, she was just being a bit witchy, because she also seemed off wrt Oliver falling all over the place. She didn't react how "Chloe" would react,imo. Frankly after a season of no emotion from her, I'm glad to see she's being more blunt about things. Granted it's probvably Brainiac, but hopefully (if Brainiac is taken out of her) she'll keep that bluntness about her.
I guess I didnt think it would be this fast?? :\. But actually...it's better this way, bringing Brainiac on all at once wouldnt be convincing at all....it's just weird to see Chloe so....blunt. But I do think she keeps things to herself a lot, so its kind of nice to see her let loose a bit.
But i still want to see the sweet, caring chloe I know and love.
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I think that Brainiac is starting to take over and some true feelings are surfacing. She is jealous of Lois and Tess by what she said. Clark is concerned and rightly so. She isn't herself and her new ability is a little spooky.
I just kind of wish she would make up her mind...
In the previous episode she said things between them would have to change.....then this episode she's upset she and clark dont see eachother that much (which clark was upset about in the last episode....that he didnt tell her right away about her engagement).
Then towards the middle she pretty much tells Clark to back off....that she needs to live her own life.
So...I hope this is all just brainiac taking over...otherwise, she's confusing the crap out of me!! :lol:
Khyla
10-02-2008, 08:25 PM
She is like clark ... in the sense that she wants him to be happy, so she usually laughs about the girls he's attracted to...and teases him about it, like a friend would. But tonight...it was just accusations. Weird. :eek:
...
I think she can be jealous from time to time.....but never like she was tonight.
She was border line rude. She's usually better at playing it off...and being more playful about it. She was just blunt....and out of character tonight.
It WAS ooc for Chloe. And I caught the difference right off. I suppose it could be chalked up to pre-wedding jitters or something, but I suspect it has to do with her Brainiac infection. I mean she usually talks fast, but that scene in Isis, she just seems like she was on turbo-drive and she didn't even have time for her usually wiity lines. She's definitely NOT HERSELF!
OneShotClois
10-02-2008, 08:26 PM
Yeah Chole Was A ***** Tonite She Got On My Nerves So Bad I Muted Her When She Came One
I know that (^) comment is kind of rude, But LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO.
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
AndiGirl
10-02-2008, 08:27 PM
It WAS ooc for Chloe. And I caught the difference right off. I suppose it could be chalked up to pre-wedding jitters or something, but I suspect it has to do with her Brainiac infection. I mean she usually talks fast, but that scene in Isis, she just seems like she was on turbo-drive and she didn't even have time for her usually wiity lines. She's definitely NOT HERSELF!
I agree...that scene was creepy.
Fallen One
10-02-2008, 08:36 PM
Caroline Dries everyone.. she's the blame for anything wrong in this episode. I'm glad they gave her this one and left the important episodes to good writers.
smallvillefreak24
10-02-2008, 08:37 PM
chimmy is just so wrong
Khyla
10-02-2008, 08:44 PM
chimmy is just so wrong
couldn't agree more! :(
AndiGirl
10-02-2008, 08:46 PM
Caroline Dries everyone.. she's the blame for anything wrong in this episode. I'm glad they gave her this one and left the important episodes to good writers.
So you dont think Chloes changes were deliberate...just bad writing??
dimeo782002
10-02-2008, 09:05 PM
Oh...I have no doubt it would be hard!! :lol:
But I dont think the way to win our boy over is making jabs at him.....
It seemed a bit out of character to me..
i can't say cause it would be a spoiler but if your curious go to spoilers thread and maybe you can figure out whats happening to her ?
I agree she was a little snotty tonight i think she may not be too thrilled with clarks response in platique . i believe she still has feelings and maybe there showing in some way or maybe she is not totally herself lately... i mean after all clark made a good point , she has these new powers thanks to brainiac so ya never know . tsk tsk .:rolleyes:
definetly out of character ! good point Andi very good point you may be onto something !
I love your new video you posted the link in the chlark relationship thread ,prefect song great video and yes you make people cry , with the clips you choose and the perfect music you have gotten me eveytime !
theotherJane
10-02-2008, 09:05 PM
When hasn't she been possessive of Clark?
Fallen One
10-02-2008, 09:08 PM
So you dont think Chloes changes were deliberate...just bad writing??
I do think it was deliberate and i agree with what you're saying.. I just wanted to say that somewhere and picked this thread. Sorry.
Carolione Dries is horrible. Ok, I'm done now. Its all out of my system.
Carry on.
AndiGirl
10-02-2008, 09:11 PM
i can't say cause it would be a spoiler but if your curious go to spoilers thread and maybe you can figure out whats happening to her ?
I agree she was a little snotty tonight i think she may not be too thrilled with clarks response in platique . i believe she still has feelings and maybe there showing in some way or maybe she is not totally herself lately... i mean after all clark made a good point , she has these new powers thanks to brainiac so ya never know . tsk tsk .:rolleyes:
definetly out of character ! good point Andi very good point you may be onto something !
I love your new video you posted the link in the chlark relationship thread ,prefect song great video and yes you make people cry , with the clips you choose and the perfect music you have gotten me eveytime !
I know what spoiler you mean...I guess I just didnt expect it to be so sudden? :lol:
Awww....thank you! I'm glad you guys enjoyed the video!!! :D
Its sweet that it made people cry...but then I feel a bit bad. Such mixed emotions!! :rotfl:
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I do think it was deliberte and i agree with what you're saying.. I just wanted to say that somewhere and picked this thread. Sorry.
Carolione Dries is horrible. Ok, I'm done now. Its all out of my system.
Carry on.
:rotfl: You know you're always welcome to vent in my threads cedric!!
I was kind of hoping you were just chalking it all up to bad writing...and maybe my girl Chloe isn't loosing it just yet!!!
You got my hopes up! :lol:
Alicia Chipy
10-02-2008, 09:12 PM
Hmm........Its either being under Braniac's thrall or good old PMS.Maybe a few Midols will bring back her sunny disposition.
LovelyLoisLane
10-02-2008, 09:14 PM
yeah that is true. maybe this new power is making her a little looney.
Well, it might be making her a little meaner. I don't know. She seemed understanding of her cousins distress but wanted to make it clear that Ollie said 'no hospitals' then it was for a good reason. So she wasn't mean per se in this episode, but yeah I don't know why she thought Clark and Lois were attached at the hip. I mean they were together in Plastique but not the WHOLE time and obviously is Clark wasn't at the party with Lois then they aren't always together (aka 'attached at the hip) That was odd enough but when she added in the fact that Lois and Clark spend more time together than Chloe and Jimmy, I agree with Andi, that just says more about Chloe's relationship with Jimmy, especially given that Lois and Clark work together now. Spending time together on a daily basis is kinda unavoidable. Clark even got a little defensive about it. I certainly hope they aren't setting us up for Chloe/Lois rivalry. :*( I would cry.
Her comment about Tess didn't bother me, because I thought she was just teasing. I know the show promos teased that but honestly? I don't think Clark is going into that blind at all. In Plastique he seemed to be wary of Tess connection with Lex and in Toxic still is.
AM talked about Chloe having a dark side this season (I don't think I'm spoiling anything this season by saying that much but I tagged it just in case.) So maybe this is just a touch of that happening already? I won't say it is bad writing, because believe it or not the ultra picky, no sugar coating Triple L . . . well I like the writing this season so far. :P
theotherJane
10-02-2008, 09:19 PM
So she wasn't mean per se in this episode, but yeah I don't know why she thought Clark and Lois were attached at the hip.
IMO, that comment was meant to showcase the closeness that has developed between Lois and Clark, but wasn't executed very well...it seemed a little catty, maybe if she said it in a different, playful or nudge-nudge-wink-wink kind of way, it would have worked better.
BadToad
10-02-2008, 09:23 PM
I don't really think Chloe was being possessive. What I do think is that this episode had a lot of lame dialogue, and I think that might have confused the issue.
AndiGirl
10-02-2008, 09:25 PM
IMO, that comment was meant to showcase the closeness that has developed between Lois and Clark, but wasn't executed very well...it seemed a little catty, maybe if she said it in a different, playful or nudge-nudge-wink-wink kind of way, it would have worked better.
I had that feeling too. That the writers wanted to let the audience know a certain amount of time had gone by....and Lois and Clark were becoming closer. But it did just came off catty and weird.....
LovelyLoisLane
10-02-2008, 09:28 PM
IMO, that comment was meant to showcase the closeness that has developed between Lois and Clark, but wasn't executed very well...it seemed a little catty, maybe if she said it in a different, playful or nudge-nudge-wink-wink kind of way, it would have worked better.
I agree, also because they aren't attached at the hip, unless there is something I'm missing. I mean, like I said above, they work together now. Spending everyday (or at least five days a week) together isn't that odd. Clark and Lois both also seem to be fine doing their own thing without the other present. I just don't see Lois having welded Clark to her hip. Clark even said at the fundraiser that Lois was busy with her work. He certainly didn't make it sound like Lois had any problem, or that he had a problem either for that matter, with him covering the fundraiser without her.
Later on maybe with Clark inviting Lois to stay with him at the Kent Farm a comment like that might make sense. But it didn't tonight.
I am happy that Lois not being there got addressed though. In the past it would've been ignored and we'd be left to draw our own conclusions.
I do think though that it is a touch of Braniac in her making a little meaner, not a ton, but a bit.
Khyla
10-02-2008, 10:11 PM
Hmm........Its either being under Braniac's thrall or good old PMS.Maybe a few Midols will bring back her sunny disposition.
:lol: i thought of that too.
Darth Pipes
10-02-2008, 10:12 PM
Chloe was out-of-line and snooty with her comments and what's going on between Clark and Lois is none of her business.
ShelbyKent
10-02-2008, 11:33 PM
Now...you all know I love chloe, but what was she thinking at the party?? She was either jealous....or just being rude. She was making honest observations..... but perhaps Brainiac's presence has short-circuited her verbal filter.
Or you can always blame the booze at the party It uhm, made her more relaxed ;)
kraami
10-02-2008, 11:40 PM
I think it has to do with the fact she is letting go and ytold him things might change... yet he seems more distant and she is trying to prod him for info to see if he does like her. she is prolly feeling like ok clark im getting married and he pretty much said ok cool things won't be the same ok i dont care go for you chloe.... She maybe having second thoughts and wants clark to stand up and say something anything.
AndiGirl
10-02-2008, 11:48 PM
She was making honest observations..... but perhaps Brainiac's presence has short-circuited her verbal filter.
Or you can always blame the booze at the party It uhm, made her more relaxed ;)
I'm all for honest Chloe...infact I'd like to see her more often!! :lol:
I guess it was the way she went about it...or vocalized it, she seemed a bit out of character.
You know what else bothered me...she didnt really follow through did she?? Clark asked her what she was implying about him and Lois...and she said "oh...nevermind, I just thought I would be the one fixing your typos is all." I got the feeling that wasnt all...and as soon as clark started playing the game, she was done.:\
So if she's going to be blunt Chloe....I wish she would just get it all off her chest...and really commit! :p
individuall
10-03-2008, 12:16 AM
I'm all for honest Chloe...infact I'd like to see her more often!! :lol:
I guess it was the way she went about it...or vocalized it, she seemed a bit out of character.
You know what else bothered me...she didnt really follow through did she?? Clark asked her what she was implying about him and Lois...and she said "oh...nevermind, I just thought I would be the one fixing your typos is all." I got the feeling that wasnt all...and as soon as clark started playing the game, she was done.:\
So if she's going to be blunt Chloe....I wish she would just get it all off her chest...and really commit! :p
Yeah, that was weird...Maybe she realized she said too much? I have no idea what she was thinking in that scene, honestly...Usually I'm pretty good at reading what a character is trying to imply, but I really didn't know where Chloe was going with that comment....I guess she didn't either since she put a stop to the conversation:lol:...It really bugged me that she thought Clark would be so easily swayed by Tess cuz she's pretty...Doesn't he always give people the benefit of the doubt in the beginning?...I mean that has been a pretty recognizable Clark trait, right? He is too trusting..And he doesn't really start doubting people until they give him a reason...And so far Tess hasn't given him a reason...It just bothered me that she said that..I think she was just teasing, but it came off weird to me...
ginnyfan
10-03-2008, 12:19 AM
I dunno. Chloe did seem to be a little possessive, especially about ushering Clark into Journalism but... I think a lot of it was just friendly jibbing. It seemed that she was asking him about his love life in a very passive aggressive way.
From a writing POV... it was sort of catching things up. Clark's spending a lot of time with Lois working. Clark is attracted to Tess but her association with Lex puts a damper on it.
dimeo782002
10-03-2008, 07:46 AM
I think it has to do with the fact she is letting go and ytold him things might change... yet he seems more distant and she is trying to prod him for info to see if he does like her. she is prolly feeling like ok clark im getting married and he pretty much said ok cool things won't be the same ok i dont care go for you chloe.... She maybe having second thoughts and wants clark to stand up and say something anything.
well this is the problem with clark he always does this except for the episode devoted * blah * anyway he tells chloe we are more than friends , then hugs her and says jimmy will make her happy and her happiness is very important to him ,then he says don't worry about anything else ! talk about mixed messages !
he has said we are more than friends more than once the truth is chloe and clark are almost like a couple...they just don't have sex but everything else is there . plus they do things that not all couples do ? they trust eachother and they would literally die for eachother ... literally , too many people are cowards today even when it comes to there spouse or there loved ones.
chloe and clark's relationship is the stuff of legend , like romeo and juliet probably because they willnever be together the way they should .:rolleyes:
chlo-el
10-03-2008, 01:48 PM
I felt weird about this scene too. I didn't like that they were making Chloe look so jealous. But I think they were showing that it's tough for her to let go of Clark. And she's used to Clark and her working together and spending all of their time together. She said so herself she wasn't ready for their relationship to change and it is changing.
I also think it came down to her still be a little sad that all of her dreams will never come true and she see's that Lois might very well have her dreams and that hurts.
Chloe in this ep once again really showed me she really doesn't want to marry Jimmy. But feels like she has to to truely get over Clark.
Now...you all know I love chloe, but what was she thinking at the party?? She was either jealous....or just being rude. First she makes a comment about Lois and Clark being attached at the hip....and implying things. Then her line "you two spend more time together then me and jimmy...and we're engaged." Sorry Chloe...but I think that says more about your relationship with your fiance then it does about Clark.
Then she says Clark has been getting close to Tess....and "dont tell me her long waving hair and green eyes have nothing to do with that."
I dont know...I kind of cringed at Chloe tonight....for a girl in the previous episode who decided things would change after you got married, you were pretty possessive of clark. Accusing him of being attracted to every woman he talks to.
Well, she can't cuddle him all the time, and the fact is, he is a male who can be as easily distracted by Tess' viles as any other earthy males!
And yes, he and Lois have been spending a lot of time together, as they very well should since they are partners, so Chloe's remark was spot on!
Also, Clark was attending the party because of his work, and it was only logical he would take Lois which he didn't do, and that had Chloe probably puzzled, thus resaulting in her remark that Clark and Lois usually do these kind of things together!
go_clo
10-03-2008, 04:57 PM
Well I haven't seen the episode yet but going off of description, no matter how nice or harsh her remarks sounded, I think it all has to do with a couple things.
One of which being that Chloe is going through alot of change now. She's getting engaged, changing her career goals, has all these new unexplained powers, etc. For some, change is scary, especially when there is alot of it and the scariness of it all is probably kinda putting her a bit on edge.
The other thing probably does have to do with jealousy. She has been a journalist for so long and she pushed Clark to be part of that with her. He did for a while but lost interest and they didn't revisit the issue since. Now she loses her dream, has to switch careers all because an evil Lex Luthor fired her because of her involvement with Clark and now suddenly, Clark strikes up an interest in journalism again and he is sharing his experience as a reporter with someone else, Lois Lane of all people. You can't tell me that that wouldn't sting you a bit. :( And now, not only is her relationship suppost to change with Clark because of her oncoming marriage but now, it's already changing because of his relationship with Lois. She isn't even ready to start thinking about it changing, and now it seems that it already is! Another understandable jab to the heart! :\
The last thing on my list is the most obvious attack from Brainiac! She is most likely starting to change because of it. From interviews, we hear that she is suppost to be somewhat darker this season and we will gradually start noticing her changing so I guess this will be one of the many anvils thrown our way that the change is taking affect! :eek:
wolverine316
10-03-2008, 09:22 PM
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AndiGirl
10-03-2008, 09:23 PM
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Friendly.....we are keeping this friendly. ;)
Minela
10-03-2008, 10:44 PM
I'm glad to see some emotion from Chloe. I think it would be weird if she didn't react to this change at all. I mean, journalism and Clark were her passion for so long, and now Lois seemingly is getting both.
ShelbyKent
10-03-2008, 11:15 PM
OK, I just rewatched the scene. Aside from making an honest observation, I think Chloe just couldn't resist teasing Clark about how much time he's spending with Lois, given that Lois and Clark both think that they go together like "hot fudge and halibut".
The line about, Chloe being the one to correct Clark's typos, I think that was meant to show that Chloe is slowly getting used to letting go of the ol' apron strings when it comes to Clark.
It won't make sense for Chloe to be possessive at this point, because when she was arguing with Clark at Isis, Chloe said that Clark should stop feeling guilty for what happened to her, because she chooses to see her present abilities as a gift and Clark should let her use it as she sees fit. The scene gave me the overall feeling that she's trying to establish a life and make decisions in a way that's not so heavily dependent on Clark
This all fits the the info given by AM in her TV guide interview
. I think she has come into her own in a way that she never has before. I think she's starting to understand what she wants separate and aside from Clark, and she is building her own relationship with herself and her own life, and proactively going after all of that instead of just running around and doing whatever she thinks Clark needs She's grown into her own woman.
So yeah, to recap, I think Chloe's dialog at the Ace of Clubs was mainly meant to tease Clark and to establish that Chloe is starting to live her own life with her own set of priorities separate from Clark's needs
AndiGirl
10-03-2008, 11:22 PM
OK, I just rewatched the scene. Aside from making an honest observation, I think Chloe just couldn't resist teasing Clark about how much time he's spending with Lois, given that Lois and Clark both think that they go together like "hot fudge and halibut".
The line about, Chloe being the one to correct Clark's typos, I think that was meant to show that Chloe is slowly getting used to letting go of the ol' apron strings when it comes to Clark.
It won't make sense for Chloe to be possessive at this point, because when she was arguing with Clark at Isis, Chloe said that Clark should stop feeling guilty for what happened to her, because she chooses to see her present abilities as a gift and Clark should let her use it as she sees fit. The scene gave me the overall feeling that she's trying to establish a life and make decisions in a way that's not so heavily dependent on Clark
This all fits the the infor given by AM in her TV guide interview
So yeah, to recap, I think Chloe's dialog at the Ace of Clubs was mainly meant to tease Clark and to establish that Chloe is starting to live her own life with her own set of priorities separate from Clark's needs
I agree...except it seems she's always contradicting herself. I dont know if it was just bad writing in the episode. :\
But the scene you talk about Chloe telling clark she wants to see her new powers as a gift I was very excited...and rooting her on. She does need to have her own life.
But then...not two scenes later we see Chloe telling Davis what a burden her abilities are because her reception looks more like a complex algorithm...then a seating chart.
So which is it? Is she just choosing to keep clark out of the loop....and maybe thats her way of letting him go a bit?
I just couldnt understand that one moment she's saying things will have to change...and as soon as they do, she seems upset. It makes no sense to me...:\
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Actually...you know what, I think I just answered my own question!
She knows things will have to change, but she isnt happy about them. Ok....so it does make sense! :lol:
I still think she needs to tone it down a bit with clark..or she's going to lose him entirely.
ShelbyKent
10-03-2008, 11:42 PM
But then...not two scenes later we see Chloe telling Davis what a burden her abilities are because her reception looks more like a complex algorithm...then a seating chart.
So which is it? Is she just choosing to keep clark out of the loop....and maybe thats her way of letting him go a bit?
I just couldnt understand that one moment she's saying things will have to change...and as soon as they do, she seems upset. It makes no sense to me...:\
I think she's excited about the prospect of having new priorities, having a new job, being able to help the meteor infected, being engaged to Jimmy and planning her own wedding. So many nice normal things to look forward to, things that are HER priorities and not Clark's.
When it comes to her powers, though, I think Chloe's excited about things that she's able to accomplish with them, but she's also doesn't want to delve too much on the origins of her powers.
So it has nothing to do with Clark, I think. Its has more to do with her inner struggle to recognize that there's something very EVOL inside her. I mean, who wants to admit that there's an EVOL alien entity inside their brain? :\
Again in AM's TV guide interview:
VGuide.com: How quickly will Chloe become suspicious of Mr. Bloome (aka Doomsday)? How soon will she suspect that something is....
Mack: Amiss? That would mean she would have to recognize that there was something negative about her
LionelLuthor
10-04-2008, 04:19 AM
I love the direction Chloe is going- at first it's starting subtle like her comments at the party, and her attitude towards Clark knowing about Brainiac's influence.
People that are confused or sad about Chloe's behaviour, it's only going to get worse as the season progresses- I think Chloe's time is running out.
Billy Jor-El
10-04-2008, 10:14 AM
She doesn't even need to be subtle. After so many years, and everything she's seen and knows about Clark, and been there for him even when RedK Kal says mighty rude things to her, she holds unconditional love for him. Why not corner the alien and have it out with him? Tell him she loves him, no questions about it, and get some kind of honest reaction about he feels towards her. As Clark took Chloe to the prom way back when he tells Jonathon, "...I think I have feelings for Chloe."
(and no, I pray her time is not running out....!!!!!)
Then they can all get back to the business of saving the world from abandoned pets that are damned pissed about not being fed, walked, or getting any screen time. (Shelby, we love you, too!)
xrayvision
10-04-2008, 11:07 AM
I didn't like Chloe at all in Toxic. She was a hypocrite. She had no problem having Brainiac's logic when she complained about the consequences of Lana having Clark's powers in Wrath. I hope Clark gets to the bottom of Brainiac's presence in Chloe because it would be very reckless to not do anything about it. He knows all about Brainiac and how dangerous he is & what he could do if his demands are not met (like he did with the virus in vessel after Clark didn't release Zod or how he put Lana in a coma & tricked Kara to go with him because of what happened in Veritas).
dimeo782002
10-04-2008, 11:22 AM
I don't think Chloe is a hypocrite ! She was concerned about lana getting hurt because she knew what having clarks powers did to clarks father . Chloe cares more for others than herself and she knows she has these ability from brainiac but does not know how to get rid of it . so in the mean time until something happends or clark finds a way to help her , she is looking at it as a gift . and i have no doubt in my heart , that clark will do whats right ! now that he knows chloe is infected by brainiac he will try to help her ... he always does . will chloe die when they try to separate them ??? that i don't know ? but chloe being a hypocrite i don't agree with so thats just my opinion .
I see her trying to deal with something in a mature manner , being there is nothing that can be done about it at this point ! what is she supposed to freak out cry and flip around on the floor screaming " somebody kill me i have been infected by brainiac ??? "
no the fortress is disabled and unless there is a kryptonian doctor on hand i doubt even clark knows what to do for now except worry. so chloe is taking the let's take it day by day routine . thats all most of us humans can do.
I admit she was a little pissy at the fundraiser but , alot of things are changing in her life, and her relationship with clark since she got engageed is one of them . it also would not make any sense if she did not miss being a reporter a little . so that makes sense and clark has had his fair share of pissy moments with chloe .. anyone remember hydro ? " you knew lana was pregnant ?" he literally grabbed her arm . friends have these moments and one is not better than the other. chloe had a pisy moment just like any other character on smallville , right along with millions of people in the world .
Khyla
10-04-2008, 11:38 AM
I don't think Chloe is a hypocrite ! She was concerned about lana getting hurt because she knew what having clarks powers did to clarks father . Chloe cares more for others than herself and she knows she has these ability from brainiac but does not know how to get rid of it . so in the mean time until something happends or clark finds a way to help her , she is looking at it as a gift . and i have no doubt in my heart , that clark will do whats right ! now that he knows chloe is infected by brainiac he will try to help her ... he always does . will chloe die when they try to separate them ??? that i don't know ? but chloe being a hypocrite i don't agree with so thats just my opinion .
I see her trying to deal with something in a mature manner , being there is nothing that can be done about it at this point ! what is she supposed to freak out cry and flip around on the floor screaming " somebody kill me i have been infected by brainiac ??? "
no the fortress is disabled and unless there is a kryptonian doctor on hand i doubt even clark knows what to do for now except worry. so chloe is taking the let's take it day by day routine . thats all most of us humans can do.
I admit she was a little pissy at the fundraiser but , alot of things are changing in her life, and her relationship with clark since she got engageed is one of them . it also would not make any sense if she did not miss being a reporter a little . so that makes sense and clark has had his fair share of pissy moments with chloe .. anyone remember hydro ? " you knew lana was pregnant ?" he literally grabbed her arm . friends have these moments and one is not better than the other. chloe had a pisy moment just like any other character on smallville , right along with millions of people in the world .
I agree.
Great post! :)
xrayvision
10-04-2008, 12:05 PM
I don't think Chloe is a hypocrite ! She was concerned about lana getting hurt because she knew what having clarks powers did to clarks father . Chloe cares more for others than herself and she knows she has these ability from brainiac but does not know how to get rid of it . so in the mean time until something happends or clark finds a way to help her , she is looking at it as a gift . and i have no doubt in my heart , that clark will do whats right ! now that he knows chloe is infected by brainiac he will try to help her ... he always does . will chloe die when they try to separate them ??? that i don't know ? but chloe being a hypocrite i don't agree with so thats just my opinion .
I see her trying to deal with something in a mature manner , being there is nothing that can be done about it at this point ! what is she supposed to freak out cry and flip around on the floor screaming " somebody kill me i have been infected by brainiac ??? "
no the fortress is disabled and unless there is a kryptonian doctor on hand i doubt even clark knows what to do for now except worry. so chloe is taking the let's take it day by day routine . thats all most of us humans can do.
I admit she was a little pissy at the fundraiser but , alot of things are changing in her life, and her relationship with clark since she got engageed is one of them . it also would not make any sense if she did not miss being a reporter a little . so that makes sense and clark has had his fair share of pissy moments with chloe .. anyone remember hydro ? " you knew lana was pregnant ?" he literally grabbed her arm . friends have these moments and one is not better than the other. chloe had a pisy moment just like any other character on smallville , right along with millions of people in the world .
I still think she's being a hypocrite because she's not thinking about the bigger picture. She could easily not only be putting herself in danger but the whole world as well given what Brainiac can do. That's what I don't like about Chloe. She wants to know everything, she wants Clark to confide in her, but when Clark asks for the same, she snaps at him. Almost appears like a holier than thou attitude. She never was like that in the early seasons.
dimeo782002
10-04-2008, 12:45 PM
I still think she's being a hypocrite because she's not thinking about the bigger picture. She could easily not only be putting herself in danger but the whole world as well given what Brainiac can do. That's what I don't like about Chloe. She wants to know everything, she wants Clark to confide in her, but when Clark asks for the same, she snaps at him. Almost appears like a holier than thou attitude. She never was like that in the early seasons.
You can think she is a hypocrite because she does nothing about it but what is she supposed to do ? the fortress is out right now so what can she or clark do to get rid of this situation anyway ?
there is nothing that can be done and there is no one they can go to for help ! where is clark or chloe supposed to go to get help with chloe being infected ? the fortress is broken ! maybe later it will come back but for now there is nothing chloe can do .
this is all a matter of opinion and you obviously don't like chloe so you are noy gonna be objective to see what im saying .
i like chloe but i know when and can be objective enough to see when she is snotty and yes , she was snotty at the fundraiser , but i choose to look for the reason behind it rather than just my dislike for someone .
so carry on and enjoy , i was just looking for some friendly and fair objectivety. i see your point but it seems to be coming from sheer hate rather than being objective which doesn't leave much room for why chloe is dealing with brainiac the way she is.
you dislike her and thats why your not seeing that there is nothing they can do right now! i guess you want clark to lock her in a room or send her to tess so she can be a lab rat ? because there is no one to help right now ! that is my point i don't think chloe does not care she does and thats why she is snippy about it because there is nothing she can do. and if she is being contrloed by brainiac is that really her fault ? no more than it was lana's fault or kara's . im done with this discussion . have a wonderful happy day !:D
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I agree.
Great post! :)
thank you khyla ! i have to stick up for my girl even when she is a little not like herself .
imean geez she is not the only character to have pms or something lmao ! i finished part two of my story if you get a chance check it out ! bye !;)
xrayvision
10-04-2008, 01:15 PM
this is all a matter of opinion and you obviously don't like chloe so you are noy gonna be objective to see what im saying .
i like chloe but i know when and can be objective enough to see when she is snotty and yes , she was snotty at the fundraiser , but i choose to look for the reason behind it rather than just my dislike for someone .
so carry on and enjoy , i was just looking for some friendly and fair objectivety. i see your point but it seems to be coming from sheer hate rather than being objective which doesn't leave much room for why chloe is dealing with brainiac the way she is.
you dislike her and thats why your not seeing that there is nothing they can do right now! i guess you want clark to lock her in a room or send her to tess so she can be a lab rat ? because there is no one to help right now ! that is my point i don't think chloe does not care she does and thats why she is snippy about it because there is nothing she can do. and if she is being contrloed by brainiac is that really her fault ? no more than it was lana's fault or kara's . im done with this discussion . have a wonderful happy day !:D
Hate? :)
I suggest you check out a thread in the Plastique forum to see my opinion of Chloe then and how much it changed within a week. I dislike what they're doing with her. Rather than having the attiude that she had (she's always right & Clark's always wrong), I think she should have seen Clark's side and promised to speak to Clark about it after Ollie's life is saved so the 2 can try to come up with a plan that would involve recreating the FOS. That's all I expected of her. I have been very objective with Chloe's character and how great it was in seasons 1-4 and how they ruined it in seasons 5-7 by making her too perfect and an unrealistic character. I liked what they were doing with her this season until Toxic (especially in Plastique). I hope they can get her back in a positive direction again. Because the way things are going now, something very bad is going to happen and Clark is going to blame himself again, causing the same old crap from the last 3-4 seasons to happen again. And I'm very much tired of that.
Dor el
10-04-2008, 01:41 PM
She's being defensive. She wants Clark...badly...
I am having some issues with this. Not that this is incorrect, but when I imagine Chloe and Clark together, now, I see Clark and Brainiac (James Marsters) and the vision ain't pretty.
Minela
10-04-2008, 02:30 PM
I just had this thought. Judging by interviews Chloe is going in a darker direction, so maybe there'll be a fallout with Clark and she'll sort of turn against him (I mean not really like an enemy but a rift like Obi-Wan and Anakin, just not so severe) and Clark will have to fight to get her back. I think that would be cool to see how he manages not only without Chloe's help but actually having to work against her. Because up until now, she's been his brain, and I for one would love to see him beat her in the brain department.
Plus it would be really dramatic because he wouldn't be fighting only against her, but for her. At the end, he saves her and becomes Superman, the end.
dimeo782002
10-04-2008, 04:37 PM
I just had this thought. Judging by interviews Chloe is going in a darker direction, so maybe there'll be a fallout with Clark and she'll sort of turn against him (I mean not really like an enemy but a rift like Obi-Wan and Anakin, just not so severe) and Clark will have to fight to get her back. I think that would be cool to see how he manages not only without Chloe's help but actually having to work against her. Because up until now, she's been his brain, and I for one would love to see him beat her in the brain department.
Plus it would be really dramatic because he wouldn't be fighting only against her, but for her. At the end, he saves her and becomes Superman, the end.
ya know what ?i like the last part of your comment ! it's true if she is indeed carrying some of you know who's powers than you know it's gonna cause a rift , but we all know clark he will not let her go that easily . he will try to save her and stop whatever this force is trying to accomplish thus making him a hero aka superman * sighing * i like that !
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Hate? :)
I suggest you check out a thread in the Plastique forum to see my opinion of Chloe then and how much it changed within a week. I dislike what they're doing with her. Rather than having the attiude that she had (she's always right & Clark's always wrong), I think she should have seen Clark's side and promised to speak to Clark about it after Ollie's life is saved so the 2 can try to come up with a plan that would involve recreating the FOS. That's all I expected of her. I have been very objective with Chloe's character and how great it was in seasons 1-4 and how they ruined it in seasons 5-7 by making her too perfect and an unrealistic character. I liked what they were doing with her this season until Toxic (especially in Plastique). I hope they can get her back in a positive direction again. Because the way things are going now, something very bad is going to happen and Clark is going to blame himself again, causing the same old crap from the last 3-4 seasons to happen again. And I'm very much tired of that.
ahhh i see ! i definetly see where your coming from ! yes she was very very snippy in toxic. i undersatnd your frustartion, let's wait and see what happens . chloe may be going through something . but i see where the writing of tptb can get to a person :lol:
i do miss chloe from earlier seasons but i could definetly say the same about clark . i guess they are growing up. i jus wish ps3 could do some things different.
i say stick it out maybe we will all get something we like !:D
TheLeague
10-04-2008, 08:07 PM
change in character = brainiachloe showing her sides
its coming and i think its cool we can pick up on the changes to her this early im guessing this was brainiac having a jab a clark not fully chloe
abbaspice1
10-04-2008, 10:33 PM
I think it was full Chloe. Let me explain.
Chloe has ALWAYS wanted to know EVERYTHING. She loves doing research. I think there is a part (large part) of her that is EMBRACING the Brainaic in her. The part of her that wants to know everything, wants to study everything, wants to be the encyclopedia that everyone else has to use.
And since she is embracing that part of her, I think she is noticing everything going on around her. Her new knowledge is giving her the confidence to say what is on her mind. Perhaps things she has wanted to say, but never did.
wolverine316
10-05-2008, 05:56 AM
I really hope a huge apology is coming from Chloe when this blows up in her face.
Bizarrolover
10-05-2008, 09:25 AM
I think Chloe is jealous and not very happy that Clark is moving on with his life without her. For years, she had this special relationship with <ST1:phim, she was the only one to know his secret and everything about his life, she researched for him and now she feels excluded. He has a job, Lois is constantly around him, the guys of the Justice League know about his powers and she’s not the center of his life anymore. In one way, she's like Lionel (please don't take it the wrong way, I'm not saying she's evil), she wants the traveller all to herself.
As for being a hypocrate, in one way she is. She's spending more time with Davis that with her own fiancée (on screen, at least) so it's funny that she's accusing Clark of doing the same with Lois. I mean, they work together, they sit across each other, it's logic that they would spend many hours together.
dimeo782002
10-05-2008, 09:54 AM
some people are making it seem as if clark is pushing chloe away and in reality it looks the other way to me.
1) clark invited chloe to the fundraiser
2) chloe is the one who said things would change when she got married.... not clark
3) chloe also in toxic is the one who told clark to stop worrying about her ...not clark
it would be totaly out of chracter if chloe did not miss journalism to some degree. and yes she was the one not lois that had clark at tye torch in high school so i think it is normal that chloe , is having some normal reaction to the changes in her life. but to say she is possesive of clark i think is a little too far . clark on more than one occasion during the seven years of smallville has shown possesivnes and jealousy as well. yes i believe chloe may be a little jealous but i think that is a normal human response to the changes around her and clark , is not perfect. but he is not pushing her away ! he still cares for chloe , it is so obvious. she is still his friend, chloe was snippy but not possesive. also her relationshipwith davis may be stemming from something else and ya know what ? if lois was my cousin i would be a little the same . [B] example chloe has been in journalism since she was a little girl.it was her dream , when she's older the guy she has had a crush on forever,she gets him to work with her the school newspaper . he says he may have feelings for her to his father and mother before the spring formal but to her dismay leaves her to save lana .... so she pulls the friends card and sits back for the clana operetta for seven dam years. anyway then her cousin lois comes to town . she has no love for journalism whats so ever , she only gets involved by Chloe's persuasion , yes Chloe's persuasion just so she can get extra points to get back to met u for drinking binges, and kicked out of school for it. now years later after ( chloe ) gets a job at the daily planet which was her dream job, by writing a story called thirst. although not published the editor hired her at the bottom. then her cousin is with her investigationg learning everything about journalism from her ( chloe all so later she can sit at chloe's desk across from the guy she helped in journalism which happened to be her first love . she has lost her job, has meteor powers and now is infected by brainiac. geez i guess chloe has no reason to be cynical and pissy at all. yes she could go ask for her job back at the dp . but with all thats happening in her life and the fact that the powers that be want to phase chloe out so they can have there cannon fairy tale. i guess we will just blame it all on chloe ,cause she should not be there right ?
if i was chloe i would be alittle pissy about lois too ! she is family and has no problem sitting in her old desk across from her old love interest. possesive to say the least. it'slike certain people have evaporated into chloe's shoe's.
and yes maybe chloe should not marry jimmy because honestly i do not buy for one minute that she loves jimmy more than clark .
jimmy is normal and she does not have to worry about him being killed or hurt and that is the only normal thing she has in her life is jimmy and she loves jimmy for that reason but not like she loved clark. she will never love anyone the way she loves clark. you love different people for different reasons thats why we are all different.
but anyway im not putting anyone down just stating a fact that chloe worked for where she was a the planet and i think she has every right to be a little down that she lost things she once loved .... was she pissy about it YES. but i think it is all natural reactions to her current situation...yes and she could apologize but i don't see certain people saying to her oh im sorry you lost your job ...oh by the way i found some of your stuff in my desk ................. aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh ! im done im not posting in this thread after this post. going to a happy place .....
msleggie
10-05-2008, 11:28 AM
I think that Brainiac is starting to take over and some true feelings are surfacing. She is jealous of Lois and Tess by what she said. Clark is concerned and rightly so. She isn't herself and her new ability is a little spooky.
I was thinking the same thing when I was watching, so so tried not to hold it against her b/c she was starting to irritate me
rick.itch
10-05-2008, 11:38 AM
i hate what the ps3 did to her in toxic so i hope they say something in the other episode that branic had something to do with that evil comments to clark, but still she used the power for an god thing, she saved ollie
SteveS
10-06-2008, 09:20 PM
Seems to me that Chloe, the smartest female on this series and now on the way to super intelligence, merely noted the fact that her cousin had foisted herself on Chloe's best friend and longest love on Smallville. Not hard for Chloe to figure out that lois moved in on ClarkMan as soon as Chloe was out of sight, so it might be termed a bit of jealously combined with possessiveness and that mixed with her intelligence, she knows that Smallville's version of lois (though currently upgraded) is not up to ClarkMan's level.
ginnyfan
10-06-2008, 09:33 PM
OK, I just rewatched the scene. Aside from making an honest observation, I think Chloe just couldn't resist teasing Clark about how much time he's spending with Lois, given that Lois and Clark both think that they go together like "hot fudge and halibut".
The line about, Chloe being the one to correct Clark's typos, I think that was meant to show that Chloe is slowly getting used to letting go of the ol' apron strings when it comes to Clark.
It won't make sense for Chloe to be possessive at this point, because when she was arguing with Clark at Isis, Chloe said that Clark should stop feeling guilty for what happened to her, because she chooses to see her present abilities as a gift and Clark should let her use it as she sees fit. The scene gave me the overall feeling that she's trying to establish a life and make decisions in a way that's not so heavily dependent on Clark
This all fits the the info given by AM in her TV guide interview
So yeah, to recap, I think Chloe's dialog at the Ace of Clubs was mainly meant to tease Clark and to establish that Chloe is starting to live her own life with her own set of priorities separate from Clark's needs
I agree. I think Chloe was just teasing him and giving exposition. LOL! I don't see that she and Clark's relationship is splintering or that Brainiac is taking over. I was happy to see them on a friend date, spending time together that is not at all work related. Supporting a mutual friend (Oliver). She seemed more nosy than possessive.
OK, I must be in the minority here, but I didn't read that scene as Chloe being jealous, possessive, or being taken over by Brainiac at all. I saw it, first, a way for the writers to convey to the audience why he was with Chloe instead of Lois. Which was EXCELLENT, imo, because - in the past - they would have just assumed that it made perfect sense that he was there with Chloe, even though he's working with Lois, and that the audience should just suck it up and fan-wank what happened in offscreensville.
Now, though, we have a character actually express confusion onscreen (through Chloe) and then have Clark provide the reason why Chloe is at the party with him instead of Lois. Then, furthermore, they use Chloe as a means to convey that Lois and Clark have been spending much more time together than the scenes they have together would suggest (again, a great way to TELL us what's going on in offscreens-ville rather than have us fan-wank it) and Clark, on top of that, shows us that this must be true by correcting Chloe's description of Lois and saying that Lois "underlines 3 times" rather than circling. This directly co-related to them spending more time together and they accomplished it by having Chloe make some noise about it.
To me, I saw this as a means to end: Establishing that (a) Chloe and Clark are not spending that much together (thus telling us why he had no clue she's now Chloiac); (b) Lois and Clark are spending so much time together that others are noticing and it's odd; (c) Clark doesn't mind spending time with Lois and now knows even more about her and has no problem letting people know; (d) Lois would be his partner at the party, but she's going head to head with Tess, instead; (e) This all means that it's not odd at all that Lois is sort of, kind of, developing a crush on Clark; and (f) all is not good in the Chimmy world if Chloe/Jimmy are hanging out less than Clark/Lois are... who are, then, acting more like an engaged couple than Chimmy are.
So yeah, to recap, I think Chloe's dialog at the Ace of Clubs was mainly meant to tease Clark and to establish that Chloe is starting to live her own life with her own set of priorities separate from Clark's needs
I agree. As I said elsewhere, if I had two friends who never really hung out and bickered & then they started working at the same company, I would be amused. If they then proceeded to act like BFFs, then I'd probably make a comment about it. I think the telling thing was not that Chloe asked (I think it wasn't out of line for her to say something) it was Clark's reaction that was odd. Or, rather, his "over-reaction".... he became very defensive, like Chloe was trying to say that he & Lois are acting like they're engaged. Once Chloe saw how he was taking it, she backed down, because she just didn't want to get into it with him.
Let's also not forget that this dialogue was kicking off "Toxic" so it was referring to events that had taken place between "Plastique" and "Toxic"... time has passed since then & Chloe is catching us up with what has happened in that time frame. In that time frame, she and Clark are not hanging out that much & Clark/Lois are hanging out a lot. She was just making observation (partly exposition) to bring the audience up to speed with where all the different characters stand on this.
Chloe: As much as I love the one on one time. I gotta say that I'm actually surprised that Lois un-attached you from her hip.
Clark: *his voice a little defensive* What do you mean? Lois and I aren't always together.
Chloe: *looks surprised* Clark... you see her more than I see Jimmy. And we're engaged.
Clark: *turns to face her and makes her stop talking* What are you trying to say?
*Chloe stares up at Clark for a moment, seeming a little surprised at his reaction. She smiles a little and shrugs.*
Chloe: Nevermind. I guess I always thought that I'd be the one circling your typos.
Clark: *relaxes and kind of grins* Lois doesn't circle typos. She underlines them two or three times.
*Chloe grins fondly, kind of like she's not surprised her cousin does that.*
Clark: And she couldn't skip out early. In typical Lois fashion, she's already on Tess's bad side.
abbaspice1
10-09-2008, 05:56 PM
Seems to me that Chloe, the smartest female on this series and now on the way to super intelligence, merely noted the fact that her cousin had foisted herself on Chloe's best friend and longest love on Smallville. Not hard for Chloe to figure out that lois moved in on ClarkMan as soon as Chloe was out of sight, so it might be termed a bit of jealously combined with possessiveness and that mixed with her intelligence, she knows that Smallville's version of lois (though currently upgraded) is not up to ClarkMan's level.
Oh please tell me what episode did Chloe tell Lois how she felt about Clark? And what episode shows Lois moving in on ClarkMan as soon as Chloe was out of sight? And if Lois is not up to ClarkMan's level, why was he so quick to defend Lois and the time he spends with her?
Bizarrolover
11-06-2008, 08:09 AM
I still think she's being a hypocrite because she's not thinking about the bigger picture. She could easily not only be putting herself in danger but the whole world as well given what Brainiac can do. That's what I don't like about Chloe. She wants to know everything, she wants Clark to confide in her, but when Clark</ST1:p asks for the same, she snaps at him. Almost appears like a holier than thou attitude. She never was like that in the early seasons.
I agree with you when you say that Chloe has a 'holier than thou' attitude, but I disagree with you with the part that says that she wasn't like that in the earlier seasons. She was. The other day I was watching Exhile/Phoenix and I noticed something that really pissed me off about her. It didn't bother me the first time I saw it, but something happened in my life that changed my perspective about that scene (my 15 year old daughter was missing for a day and her friends covered her little escapade to a concert she didn’t have permission to attend).<O:p</O:p
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Chloe knew where <ST1:pClark</ST1:p was all the time and never informed anyone. Some may say she was being loyal, that she was protecting their friendship, but that is an absolute crap. Clark</ST1:p was a runaway minor and she should have informed his parents of his whereabouts. I think she was being selfish, irresponsible and possessive for keeping that to herself. She basically wanted to be the only one to know, regardless of what the consequences that Clark's recklessness might bring to himself and his family. She basically put herself (and her very unstable friendship with <ST1:pClark at the time) above the rest. <O:p</O:p
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Like Lana said (I can’t believe I’m agreeing with her!), Chloe can’t let to go of Clark. She may have moved on from her infatuation/love, she allowed a new man in her life, but she can't stand the idea of Clark getting close to some else.<O:p</O:p
ginnyfan
11-06-2008, 08:15 AM
I've watched this episode again since my original post and Chloe was... teasing to get the low down on Clark's love life. He snapped at her (not ready for this conversation) so she quickly changed the subject to Journalism. Seemed to me like Chloe was going down the list of prospects and perhaps hoping that Clark was starting to move on.
DontCha
11-06-2008, 05:04 PM
after this episode, I understood that like in Facade, chloe could see what clark and Lois could not.
Kalista
11-07-2008, 12:20 AM
I've watched this episode again since my original post and Chloe was... teasing to get the low down on Clark's love life. He snapped at her (not ready for this conversation) so she quickly changed the subject to Journalism. Seemed to me like Chloe was going down the list of prospects and perhaps hoping that Clark was starting to move on.
I completely disagree because she immediately expressed jealousy after Clark asked her to clarify her questioning and her statements.
ginnyfan
11-07-2008, 07:36 PM
Yes but her jealousy wasn't regarding his love life. And I think that was what she changed the subject to when he snapped at her. She was deflecting.
Kalista
11-08-2008, 04:21 AM
Yes but her jealousy wasn't regarding his love life. And I think that was what she changed the subject to when he snapped at her. She was deflecting.
No. The focus of the conversation was the amount of time that Chloe thought Clark was spending with her cousin. When Clark tells her that they don't spend much time together, she scoffs and says that he spends more time with her cousin than she spends with Jimmy. It's the same as saying, I'm engaged and I don't spend as much time with my fiancee as you spend with my cousin. What's up with that. She was fishing for clues about the nature of their relationship.
When Clark asks her what she is trying to imply, then she temporarily shifts the focus of the conversation to the idea that she imagined working alongside him as a journalist.
Then the conversation returns to Clark's love life when she implies that he is attracted to Tess.
Chloe: [ Chuckling ] Yeah, at 500 bucks a plate, I'll bet. I'm just glad you've got your press pass. Although, as much as I love the one-on-one time, I got to say I'm actually surprised Lois unattached you from her hip.
Clark: What do you mean? Lois and I aren't always together.
Chloe: Clark, you see her more than I see Jimmy, and we're engaged.
Clark: What are you trying to say?
Chloe: Never mind. I guess I just always thought that I would be the one circling your typos.
Clark: Lois doesn't circle typos. She underlines them two or three times. And she couldn't skip out early. In typical Lois fashion, she's already on Tess' bad side.
Chloe: Tess. That's assuming that the Luthor wannabe has a good side.
Clark: I know she's a die-hard Lex supporter. But up until this point, she's been civil.
Chloe: Uh-huh. And I'm sure the flowing hair and piercing green eyes didn't sway you at all.
The focus of the conversation is his love life and working with him as a journalist.
Sunny8
12-14-2008, 01:48 PM
I think Chloe's behavior emulates how Clark is regarding the women in his life. I think he is possessive and territorial of Lana, Chloe, Lois and his mother (when she was around).
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