Loved it? Hated it? What did you think of One Of Us, One Of Them?

[superhippie2000]

Well what did you think? say it here.

[Ginx]

9/10

I thought it had a lot of good parts and Sylar/HRG as a team is quite cool. But I have no interest in Claire's storyline and I was much more interested in the other characters than her's or her twisted mother.

[Otisburg Mayor]

The Sylar/HRG storyline is quite promising, but after that the dropoff is steep. I'm really hating what they're doing to Hiro's character, turning him into an absolute moron. You'd think after twice losing the love of his life, losing his father, and avenging his father's death, he might have grown up just a wee bit.

[Merfish]

8/10 I agree Sylar and HRG have really good chemistry, but Hiro is basically just sidestepping, i think they should have given Peter a little more time with the sonic abilities, that made the episode delightful, im also not that big on Claires story now, but niki/jessica/tracy's story is proving quite the kicker.

[STFanatic]

I really liked the special effects this time, the "Sonic Yell" was pretty cool, plus F-Peter walking through it kinda like Hiro did last week with the super speed trail.

Special Agent Sylar was pretty darn cool.

[The Ninth Doctor]

No Mohinder storyline, and a very much improved Hiro storyline raises the bar from the previous 9/10 vote to 10/10 for me.

And yeah, Sylar & HRG is brilliant.

[thefilmguy22384]

in general i liked the episode but last impressions are what your stuck with feeling and they werent good. most of my complaints comes from what they are doing with sylar. now through the episode im with everyone on thinking its interesting having him teamed up with noah. but its only cool as long as he keeps his villainous nature in play. like i liked how he killed the sonic guy even when HRG pleaded him not to. but then i saw the trailer to next week and took a look at future sylar who apparently has become a member of the brady bunch. now true i have to reserve judgment for sure until i see next weeks episode because that could be just an act he is putting on. but if it turns out that they are saying that sylar could become that in the future then im going to be very let down. sylar is a killer. plain and simple. they have mrs. petrelli saying that his murderous nature only stems from his powers thirst for more powers. thats a load of sh*t. in season 2 when he had no powers he was still a killer so that obviously disproves what she said. his powers dont make him a killer he just in one. its possible that he is just putting on a show and i hope thats the case but if they go that direction with him its seriously going to betray that character. they already have done enough damage in betraying mohinders character by having him take that formula and playing god and now turning into the fly.

my other issue was with claire. she is starting to become tirering to watch. she kinda reminds me of lana from smallville. lana started off very likable but as the show went on she got more dramatic and b*tchy. i see that happening to claire. she just was annoying me this episode and seeing what she could become in the future certainly doesnt help. another problem im having is this new nikki/clone storyline. i thought that this woman was maybe supposed to be nikki's long lost sis jessica who supposedly died but now it looks like they are bringing cloning into this. thats just stupid.

so far this season is not off to the amazing start that the people behind the show promised in my opinion. there are alot of loose ends and betrayals to certain characters. the mohinder/the fly rip off storyline, the nikki clone storyline, the nathan born again christian storyline, the sylar becoming good storyline, the claire drama queen storyline, and the ando turning bad storyline. thats a huge chunk of characters stories that arent going very well. in season one i couldnt think of one character storyline that i had any issue with, well except maybe nikki's on occassion. still though they promised season one's quality and so far have not delivered that. maybe im judging too quickly and things will have a pay off and turn out alright. except mohinders storyline because no matter where that ends up they already screwed it up too bad. but as far as sylar goes maybe that will turn out great i dont know. we will see i guess.

[Lexgirl33]

I gave this episode a 9. It was much more relaxed then last weeks double episodes. Love all the answers they have us. The Niki/Tracy story was answered, Peter finally got out, HRG and Sylar are excellent together lol, the Hiro/Ando storyline is a lot of fun and we know what Parkman is upto. I am glad they left Maya and Mohinder out of this one. Mo's story is going to come next week and I could have done without the Claire storyline with her mom. Overall good episode! Can't wait for next week!

[Mini Wolfsbane]

I found this episode pretty underwhelming, which is highly unusual for me.
(Plus I was expecting something completely different. Appearantly my dish got things mixed up because I guess it showed next week's plot info this week.)

I guess it's mostly because I don't like Claire and there was a lot of her in this episode.

The whole Villians Escape the Fifth Level storyline felt like a bust to me. You have these powers and you go and rob a bank? Clich'e much?

Hiro's story...I don't know, I just wasn't impressed.
Nothing in this episode-or at least very, very little-made me sit up and go "OMG!" or have me on the edge of my seat wanting more. (Maybe I was just too tired to really appreciate it. I was having one of those days today and I've felt crappy prettymuch all day and like a zombie from lack of sleep. Sucks.)

I was really hoping that Mama Patreilli was just messing with Sylars head, but I was wrong. Does EVERYONE have to be related to everyone else in this show?!
That's just...wierd. Not very realistic either. (Okay, it IS, but only up to a certain point.)

Now moving on...

Matt being teleported to Africa I can accept. That's different.
Why they have to throw in a guy with ISAAC'S EXACT POWER (minus the drugs) I don't
get. (Okay, I get he's supposed to help Matt...somehow.) but couldn't they have turned it on it's head or something? Like have him sketch things instead of paint them?
Maybe have him glow blue or something instead of having his eyes turn white?
I guess it's cool that they're showing that two people can have the same power, but I'd rather see brand new powers then what we've seen before.
What the heck is up with Matt suddenly getting the future seeing power I don't know.
(And at this point, I don't think it's cool!! Matt is fine the way he is. I like him the way he is. Which is funny because I used to not like him before he got cool in season 2.)

In some ways, it feels like the Heroes writers are just again repeating themselves, but not in every way. Maybe it's just me, I don't know. Hopefully next week will be better.

[Who]

9/10
Yeah the Haitan is back. Liked his interaction with Hiro/Ando/Speedster.
How many sisters does Nikki have? I was sad to see her dead. First D.L. now her. I wish they would have left this family alone after season one. Poor Micah. Now he is an orphan.
HRG/Sylar team up was great. Level 5 guys were no match for this ultimate team, well that is until they destroy each other. Not sure how I feel about the Ms Petrelli/Sylar.
I liked the bank robbery. Peter is cool as usual.
Claire and her moms was good too.
Not sure what is going on with Matt. Another painter another seer. It would have been more interesting if he used smoke or something else to vision the future. But I'm intrigued.

[STFanatic]

I found this episode pretty underwhelming, which is highly unusual for me.
(Plus I was expecting something completely different. Appearantly my dish got things mixed up because I guess it showed next week's plot info this week.)

I guess it's mostly because I don't like Claire and there was a lot of her in this episode.

The whole Villians Escape the Fifth Level storyline felt like a bust to me. You have these powers and you go and rob a bank? Clich'e much?



The one who planned the bank job said when he killed the German, that he only set it up so that (paraphrasing) "the guy with the glasses would show up" to get revenge on him.

[Jigga]

Gonna dial it down to 6 from 7. General issues with intelligence and the feeling of the storylines being static.

Odd question, if Future Peter has all that power, and the fact that Present Peter is within proximity of Future Peter, does that mean Present Peter has all the powers of Future Peter? Logical questions like this seems to escape the Heroes writers, I don't know why it's the case, but it is. Maybe too many characters to write for that they are dropping the ball? If anything can make Heroes better, it might be the complete elimination of half the cast so that the focus on motivation for 3-4 actual members, or even 1-2 individuals, is better.

[The Ninth Doctor]

Gonna dial it down to 6 from 7. General issues with intelligence and the feeling of the storylines being static.

Odd question, if Future Peter has all that power, and the fact that Present Peter is within proximity of Future Peter, does that mean Present Peter has all the powers of Future Peter? Logical questions like this seems to escape the Heroes writers, I don't know why it's the case, but it is. Maybe too many characters to write for that they are dropping the ball? If anything can make Heroes better, it might be the complete elimination of half the cast so that the focus on motivation for 3-4 actual members, or even 1-2 individuals, is better.

First, we have no idea if Present Peter absorbed anything, because we've kind of gotten maybe 2 minutes of Present Peter in his actual body tops since he met Future Peter. If he didn't absorb the powers, then Peter's brain stores the powers in a different way compared to the other Evolved Humans. Very, very simple.


Getting rid of all but 1-4 characters is insane. It's changing the most basic dynamics of the show. That'd be like saying, "I don't like Smallville. I think they should get rid of Clark and Lex and focus on Chloe finding meteor freaks!"

[Jigga]

First, we have no idea if Present Peter absorbed anything, because we've kind of gotten maybe 2 minutes of Present Peter in his actual body tops since he met Future Peter. If he didn't absorb the powers, then Peter's brain stores the powers in a different way compared to the other Evolved Humans. Very, very simple.


Getting rid of all but 1-4 characters is insane. It's changing the most basic dynamics of the show. That'd be like saying, "I don't like Smallville. I think they should get rid of Clark and Lex and focus on Chloe finding meteor freaks!"

Changing the shows dynamics is exactly what they need to do. The rating are falling and the storylines are getting redundant.

Huge difference here in terms of character. In Heroes, there is no one main character (could be argued that it's Peter), where as it's obvious that in Smallville, Clark is the main character or most of the time suppose to be. Plus, Smallville is based on a pre-established universe with pre-established characters. In this sense, they could get rid of Chloe and the dynamics of Smallville would be the same, and it most likely would. Also, in terms of eliminating, I'm not saying kill them all, though they could do that, they could regulate most of the people into recurring positions i.e. basically what they are doing with Micah.

[spicyblark]

You like decaf coffee don't you, Noah?


Best part of episode 3!

[jimmyolsenblues]

HRG and sylar are so great, that I could not stand the cheerleader scenes because I wanted to get back to the sylar story.
and don't get me wrong , I love me some cheerleaders scenes :D

[loistickyfingerz]

I thought it was pretty decent. It didn't excite me, but maybe it's because I have a mild cold. The stuff that happened and that was revealed was cool.

At the very end, the last few things did make me stir a bit. Sylar in a suit! Ok, I melt for anything with Sylar, but still, I LOVED HRG/Sylar. And the little tease about Nikki/Tracy was good.

[oberyn]

This is the first time I've really felt my enthusiasm for the show wane.

I liked but didn't love the interaction between Noah and Sylar. I was disappointed that Sylar really does seem to be Peter and Nathan's brother. I was not at all interested in Parkman's storyline.

[Lex'sLover]

I really liked it! I thought it was good.. and I was happy they didnt just suddenly make Sylar good.. that would have been horrible. I loved Sylar in that episode though. At the beginning with the accent 'And get us some coffee... Decaf' definately my favourite line from the episode. lol.

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HRG and sylar are so great, that I could not stand the cheerleader scenes because I wanted to get back to the sylar story.
and don't get me wrong , I love me some cheerleaders scenes :D

:rotfl: me too! I was just waiting for it to get back to them! haha

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You like decaf coffee don't you, Noah?


Best part of episode 3!

TOTALLY agree!

[Xanderman]

8/10 - As with others I wasn't that impressed with this week's offering, especially after the first two eps last week. Still good, but presently I'm not really that into what they're doing with a lot of characters/storylines, such as that whole Claire/mom thing, Hiro/Ando/speedygirl, Matt in Africa, the new Niki or whoever she is. This episode seemed to mostly just be a "set up" for hopefully better episodes down the line.

All I cared about seeing was mainly HRG and Sylar. Peter's storyline was ok too I guess, but at the same time a little dumb (being trapped in another guy's body was sort of stupid).

And yeah like Jigga said, Present Peter should have all of Future Peter's powers now.

And I see that Heroes is remaining consistent with its cheap paradox-avoiding way of handling time travel, where all sorts of changes can be made given that there apparently exist multiple universes/realities/worlds/dimensions/whatever. Cheap/easy way of doing time travel compared to other possible ways, but oh well.

[The Ninth Doctor]

Changing the shows dynamics is exactly what they need to do. The rating are falling and the storylines are getting redundant.

Huge difference here in terms of character. In Heroes, there is no one main character (could be argued that it's Peter), where as it's obvious that in Smallville, Clark is the main character or most of the time suppose to be. Plus, Smallville is based on a pre-established universe with pre-established characters. In this sense, they could get rid of Chloe and the dynamics of Smallville would be the same, and it most likely would. Also, in terms of eliminating, I'm not saying kill them all, though they could do that, they could regulate most of the people into recurring positions i.e. basically what they are doing with Micah.

It wasn't a literal metaphor. I'm saying both changes would be equally drastic- getting rid of the ensemble cast of an ensemble show and getting rid of the superhero on the superhero show. The huge cast is the entire point of Heroes- it's not about 1 or 2 characters, its about the world.


Looking at the polls on these forums, it would seem most would disagree about the redundancy of plotlines. As for ratings, they should never be used in an argument about changing any quality of the show, they have absolutely nothing to do with how good a show is. Case in point: Firefly. And Veronica Mars. And Dancing with the Stars.

[badwolf]

I was a little miffed that they killed Jesse off so quick in the season. They should've had Peter stay in his body for a bit, there could've been a very interesting storyline.

[Jigga]

It wasn't a literal metaphor. I'm saying both changes would be equally drastic- getting rid of the ensemble cast of an ensemble show and getting rid of the superhero on the superhero show. The huge cast is the entire point of Heroes- it's not about 1 or 2 characters, its about the world.


Looking at the polls on these forums, it would seem most would disagree about the redundancy of plotlines. As for ratings, they should never be used in an argument about changing any quality of the show, they have absolutely nothing to do with how good a show is. Case in point: Firefly. And Veronica Mars. And Dancing with the Stars.

The polls don't really mean anything. If we are going by polls then apparently Smallville season 4 was totally awesome, which at this point we would all agree that it was pretty freaking ridiculous, with the voodoo witchcraft, crazy tattoo storyline.

2 out of those 3 shows were cancelled. Firefly's cancellation and ratings were not entirely its own fault, as many of the episodes were delayed many times and Fox showed the complete season out of order for some reason or other, but the ratings did have an impact on it. Veronica Mars was great the first two season, but everyone agrees that the last season pretty much dragged especially with the addition of the characters of Pez and what's her face that's on Eli Stone now. Hence, why the planned season 4 was to take her away from Neptune and join the FBI to change the dynamics of the show.

I guess my best example of what the show needs is something like Lost. The focus was on a lot of people initially, but they weren't afraid to off a lot of people and make a streamlined group of people with a streamlined story. A lot of those people still make recurring appearances. Also, note that now, a lot of focus is on group dynamics, we see the group together more often than we see them apart, the total opposite of Heroes. On Heroes, the last two season has been focused on bring them together, then breaking them up, then bring them together again.

[Lex'sLover]

Changing the shows dynamics is exactly what they need to do. The rating are falling and the storylines are getting redundant.

Huge difference here in terms of character. In Heroes, there is no one main character (could be argued that it's Peter), where as it's obvious that in Smallville, Clark is the main character or most of the time suppose to be. Plus, Smallville is based on a pre-established universe with pre-established characters. In this sense, they could get rid of Chloe and the dynamics of Smallville would be the same, and it most likely would. Also, in terms of eliminating, I'm not saying kill them all, though they could do that, they could regulate most of the people into recurring positions i.e. basically what they are doing with Micah.

Um.. I'm just throwing myself in your guys conversation lol.. and I have to agree with the Ninth Doctor. it would be crazy getting rid of characters whether they kill them off or make them leave doesnt really matter. You said it should be narrowed down to a certain amount of characters.. but I think the point is to have alot of different characters and different stories and different heroes.. and connect them in some way. I mean yes.. second season they really went a little overboard with the new characters.. it became a little much.. and if those characters were lost really it wouldnt be that big of a deal.. but saying narrowing it to 3-4 main characters seems crazy enough but 1-2? The show isnt Hero. And really if they got rid of any main characters that were there from the beginning.. I think it would cause a big uproar.. cause really.. If they just killed off Matt or Sylar or Micha or Ali Larter.. I'd be pissed.. as I'm sure many others would be. And I think the fact that there were all those characters since the beginning is what made it so good and interesting.. because it wasnt just focused on a certain person or couple people.. you get to see how it is effect people pretty much everywhere. Like I said.. the story lacked a little something in season two cause they really tried to hard with so many characters, but just sticking to the main bunch would keep the show great, not make it worse.

Like you said.. If Chloe left or Lana (which she is) in Smallville.. the show is fine without it.. and I guess really Heroes would be too.. but... Since they are all such main characters... it wouldnt be as easy which IMO isnt such a bad thing.

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The polls don't really mean anything. If we are going by polls then apparently Smallville season 4 was totally awesome, which at this point we would all agree that it was pretty freaking ridiculous, with the voodoo witchcraft, crazy tattoo storyline.


I guess my best example of what the show needs is something like Lost. The focus was on a lot of people initially, but they weren't afraid to off a lot of people and make a streamlined group of people with a streamlined story. A lot of those people still make recurring appearances. Also, note that now, a lot of focus is on group dynamics, we see the group together more often than we see them apart, the total opposite of Heroes. On Heroes, the last two season has been focused on bring them together, then breaking them up, then bring them together again.

Ok.. I actually totally disagree with you about season 4 because I totally loved the witch/tattoo storyline.. and I think it really did something for Lanas character and it made me like her alot more. I think because of season four the show got a lot more exciting.... and made it so it wasnt so much about the meteor freaks, which i really liked. Honestly, I think season four helped to make Smallville better.

And as for bringing them together.. they are apart for so much of the show, that when they come together, it really has a big impact on the audience I think, and really builds excitement. Like.. season one.. the whole finally.. Ithought that was great.

[ginnyfan]

I enjoyed this episode. I gave it a 9/10. I enjoyed it much more than the opening two episodes.

I was glad to return to a more human story for Claire. I enjoyed her adoptive mom more than her bio mom. I was glad to see her brother again. The asphyxiation scene just... didn't quite work somehow. I like what they were trying to do though. I think it was a mistake for her father and Future!Peter to dismiss her the way they did. Now she's running off to make Sylar pay (yay!) on her own... unguided. Her bio mom tried to reach out to her... but... I don't know if she's the best guide for Claire. Where has she been in terms of the fight against the company or against anything? She's been chilling in her trailer right?

I hate Sylar. So I was really happy to hear HRG's plan to kill him, though I don't have much hope that it will work. I'm kind of excited about his relationship with Mama Petrelli. He's more human around her. Not all self-aggrandizing serial killer.

I've eased up on Hiro a bit more. I still think that he was the villain in his future vision. I think that he is being childish and stupid but... he's still rather cute... even as a dumb a**. Speedster girl won again. I like her though. And she really brings much needed levity to the show.

I'm so happy that Matt Parkman has a storyline. He's one of my favorite characters! Issac was one of my fave characters and he died. Charlie was one of my favorite characters and she died. Nikki was one of my favorite characters and she died. Hiro was my all time favorite character and now he's going through a dumb a** phase... so... sigh. I dunno. Matt went a little villainous last season but I still love him. I'm excited to see where his spirit walk leads.

I don't think future Peter changed the future as much as he'd hoped. I was mad at him for taking Peter away before he could fully save the day. But maybe they just didn't want to give us the pleasure of a Peter & Peter vs. Sylar fight. *sigh*

I was happy not to see Mohinder continue to transform into "the fly." *stomach turns* I am curious as to what's going on with him though.

Poor Micah! Maybe as Ice Queen finds out more about her relation to Nikki she'll melt a little more toward Micah and ... be more involved in his life.

I'm glad the Haitian is back. :D

Yeah... that was a good episode.