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clarkbunny
09-27-2008, 10:15 AM
I was really surprised that Chloe and especially Clark handed Bett over to the authorities/hospital after they said they would help her.

I know the authorities were on their way but they could have said she got away and taken her to work with Oliver Queen as one of the Justice League. Although i'm not entirely sure how much use she would be with just fire from her eyes but anyway.

FlashInSV
09-27-2008, 12:40 PM
You know, I thought of that for a second, when I realised Chloe and Clark had basically dumped her to the authorities. It's really strange that they didn't contact Oliver straight away. And trust me, there would be a use for her, somehow.

I mean, obviously, Plastique's future is to turn bad (in DC comics) but Smallville has not been worried about contradictions of the sort up till now (Maybe it's the fact that they're working with DC comics this year.)

I dunno, but I was really confused when she ended up in a cell talking to Tess instead of being somewhere she could receive actual help (say, the JL) and I thought "What is she doing there?"

Minela
09-27-2008, 01:04 PM
She is a killer. I mean, she litteraly killed a guy and smirked. Even though I felt for her, she commited a crime and had to be punished. Point blank.

BadToad
09-27-2008, 01:11 PM
How can she join the JLA? She incinerated some kid, and then smiled about it. She was about to murder Chloe.

While turning her over to the JLA may seem unkind, what else are Clark and Chloe supposed to do for her? You can't coddle someone who can kill another person like that.

ClarkyBoy14
09-27-2008, 03:38 PM
I don't think it would be a good idea for the JL to take in a killer.

Kal el of krypton
09-27-2008, 06:55 PM
yeah since shes a killer shes also 15 lol, too young to join the group and she was locked up in a cell in a big lorry. You see the top of it and it was raining i think.

BULLITT
09-27-2008, 07:17 PM
Her power is not an inherently good one. The other members, though powerful, have benign abilities. Unless she's using her's to keep the barrel fires of vagrant/homeless people lit, or campers warm, it's a markedly destructive power.

Hopefulsuicide
09-29-2008, 04:46 AM
while it was nice to see Clark showing his faith in people, it kinda felt like that moment was trodden on when he didn't actually help her... how is putting her in a cell gonna help her? how was she safe? obviously she wasn't... idiot! :lol:

superpal1
09-29-2008, 07:09 AM
Clark did help her, but at the same time, she did kill someone. Clark could not have given her to the JLA. His version of helping in this case is to let her know that there are people who care for her, but also letting her pay for her crime. Sending her to the authorities was right thing to do. She has to own up to her crime and move on. That is what Clark wanted her to do. How could he know Tess was going to get her.

clarkbunny
09-29-2008, 10:12 AM
It just seemed to fly in the face of what he had just said to her.
She said she was scared that people would lock her up so she can't be herself.
He said you don't have to worry any more, we will protect you.
Next minute she is being carted off to Belle Reve to locked up for several years.

Chloe and Clark knew that she was on the run from Lex's people and from past experience they know that Lex has the power to move people out of Belle Reve and into his own little projects. Lex transferred Chloe's own mother out of Belle Reve. So they can't have thought Bett would be safe there, unless they are thinking that with Lex gone she is no longer at risk.

Which is kind of contradicted by the fact that both Bett and Chloe were still being held long after Lex had gone missing.

Also it's funny how the fact that it was Tess after Bett never came out. I guess the writers didn't want to make Clark suspicious of Tess just yet, build up that trusting Lex-Clarkesque relationship first before they reveal thr true horror of Tess' evilness :D

Kal-alien
09-29-2008, 10:16 AM
but she's supposed to be a bad guy. That's like saying Lex ought to be thrown into the JL too. They already messed up her back story, why on earth bother screwing up her Polarity too? She's a bad guy. Get over it.

clarkbunny
09-29-2008, 10:23 AM
She's a bad guy, but then why have Clark and Chloe offer to help her?

They could have called Oliver then she ran away from the car taking her to Oliver's place, I would have bought that. But for Clark & Chloe to just turn her in was the complete opposite of what they said to her.

Kal-alien
09-30-2008, 09:40 AM
It all boils down to the only place prepared to deal with the meteorologically impaired is the Isis foundation, which , was not back up and running until after the sent her packing to Belle Reeve. Had Chloe made up her mind earlier maybe she could have helped her more, thereby preventing her from becoming a bad guy in the first place. The world may never know.

AndiGirl
09-30-2008, 09:54 AM
Besides having powers....Bette was going through a lot psychologically. Things joining the JL couldnt fix. So I'm sure...Clark and Chloe were doing the only thing they could think of. Though it didnt thrill them.

Plus, Chloe will deal with a lot of meteor infected people this season.....all of her "lost cases" cant join the JL

Smallvillebabe08
09-30-2008, 09:55 AM
I was really surprised that Chloe and especially Clark handed Bett over to the authorities/hospital after they said they would help her.

I know the authorities were on their way but they could have said she got away and taken her to work with Oliver Queen as one of the Justice League. Although i'm not entirely sure how much use she would be with just fire from her eyes but anyway.

I'm glad she didn't join.. she seemed to use her powers for evil instead of good. Why have someone in the JL like that?

Mr.Magic
09-30-2008, 10:24 AM
She's a murderer, so it was either Belle Reeve or jail.

angelcervantes74
09-30-2008, 04:26 PM
No way would the Justice League ever take her in. Not only is she a criminal/killer, but she would also be useless. Her powers suck. What would she contribute to the JL? All she would be able to do, would be blowing people up. There's nothing heroic about that. Put her in Mercer's new villain group and put her against the weakest JL member. Put her against the Black Canary, the "fight" would suck; but that is the only person in the JL that she would be believable against. Obviously, she would be no match for Clark or anyone else in the Justice League. Mercer can have her in the villain group, she is not worthy of being a member of the Justice League.

clarkbunny
09-30-2008, 05:52 PM
^
Oliver doesn't actually have any powers, he can just shoot an arrow real good!
He would be toast if he went up against Bett.
Bett could have her uses, she could burn holes in security fences etc.

I know petty crime isn't quite the same as wasting someone but Impulse joined the JL despite his time as a street thief.

Either way I think it would have been so much more believable if they had offered to send her to stay with the JL and she had run away then been caught by Tess rather than them giving her to the authorities.

Mr.Magic
09-30-2008, 06:48 PM
...Either way I think it would have been so much more believable if they had offered to send her to stay with the JL...

So, you want the Justice League to lock every superpowered criminal away in their own facilities? That wouldn't make them much better than Lex.

angelcervantes74
09-30-2008, 11:17 PM
^You're right, being a "street thief" is not the same as being a murderer. Impulse is actually useful though, which was shown in "Justice" when he was stealing the files from Lex. There's nothing more to Betty, she blows people up; that's it. Oliver doesn't have any powers, that's true. Still, he has unlimited resources. Technically Bruce Wayne doesn't have any powers either. Does that mean Betty would also just blow him up?

clarkbunny
10-01-2008, 08:34 AM
you guys aren't thinking outside the box. Yes Bett can blow sh*t up but it would have it's uses for instance breaking into secret facilities etc.
She obviously will be of some use as Tess has recruited her for her own evil league.

Oh and MrMagic I wasn't saying that the JL should lock her up, I meant that they would work with her to join the team. It wouldn't really matter that she had been sent to them 'cos ultimately she would run away before she ever got to them.

The way things are now it is kind of Clark & Chloe's fault that she turns evil 'cos they offered to help her but didn't which allowed her to fall back into Tess' hands. If Tess had run away of her own accord whilst on the way to the JL it would be her own fault if Tess then caught it. Admittedly, she still had a choice when Tess propositioned her but she wouldn't have been in that situation if Clark & Chloe had helped her.

Routh
10-01-2008, 10:29 AM
The way things are now it is kind of Clark & Chloe's fault that she turns evil 'cos they offered to help her but didn't which allowed her to fall back into Tess' hands. If Tess had run away of her own accord whilst on the way to the JL it would be her own fault if Tess then caught it. Admittedly, she still had a choice when Tess propositioned her but she wouldn't have been in that situation if Clark & Chloe had helped her.
Uh, hello? She is not a hero. She cannot join the JL. She killed a man. She tried to kill Tess. She tried to kill Chloe. She is a MURDERER. She is a VILLAIN.

This is like saying the Joker should join the JL.

clarkbunny
10-01-2008, 03:07 PM
She was a scared and mixed up young adult - everyone deserves a second chance.
Nobody had ever offered to help her and she had been locked up by Lex for 3 years being experimented on, who could blame her for having a warped sense of morality. She just did what she did to try and survive.

Clarke and Chloe should have done more to help her and sending her to the JL would have been good rehabilitation.

Of course she is destined to be a villain so they could have had her run away before she made it to the JL - then she would be the one that got away rather than the one Clark & Chloe practically handed to Tess on a plate.

Mr.Magic
10-01-2008, 07:17 PM
She murdered someone. It wasn't even remotely self-defence, it was out of revenge. She even smiled when she killed him. Yes, of course she deserves a second chance, after years and decades of therapy*.

*in an asylum

RedKRules
10-01-2008, 07:25 PM
I agree with Mr.Magic, Bette cold blood rebel without a cause killed that poor guy!

All about Clark
10-02-2008, 01:38 PM
The way things are now it is kind of Clark & Chloe's fault that she turns evil 'cos they offered to help her but didn't which allowed her to fall back into Tess' hands. If Tess had run away of her own accord whilst on the way to the JL it would be her own fault if Tess then caught it. Admittedly, she still had a choice when Tess propositioned her but she wouldn't have been in that situation if Clark & Chloe had helped her.

I don't agree here. Belle Reve has been the only place that has helped the freaks live in a safe environment where they don't hurt anyone. This was the right place for them. The problem lies in the security at Belle Reve, because people like Lex and Tess (with money) can stroll in and take them and that makes it an unsafe place. But literally there is no other place for the freaks who have lost control, which Bette fits into that description.

Bette being a murderer has no place with the JL. It is too much responsibility for the JL to take down 33.1 sites and train a murderer to not be a murderer. That is just too much to ask.

And lastly, if Bette did chose (wrongly) to go with Tess, the JL members could still save her from Tess later.

And it's not just about protecting Bette, it's also about protecting those that Bette can hurt, such as all of the victims of the Bus incident.

I mean, you can't expect Clark or Chloe to take her in and train her to do right. They have their own life to live.

FlashInSV
10-09-2008, 02:58 PM
She is a killer. I mean, she litteraly killed a guy and smirked. Even though I felt for her, she commited a crime and had to be punished. Point blank.

Oh.My.God. :mad:

I totally forgot about that fact. You are so very right and I am so utterly embarrassed. How could I have forgotten about that? *slaps herself on the forehead* :o

She's already evil to be turned good by the JLA. So yeah, I'm guessing she has to be punished. :\