Are guys just not observant?

[AndiGirl]

After watching the episode again....I have to wonder, do men just not notice huge blue rings?? :rotfl:

I mean, Clark seems really surprised to hear Chloe is engaged, but if you watch their first scene....Chloe shifts her purse a lot, and the ring is front and center! So either he saw it and thought Chloe was into huge tacky ring accessories ...or he some how completely missed the massive blue heart on her ring finger.

Then...there's Davis. Who comes into the Isis foundation...pretty much has eye sex with her on the table....then when she exclaims "I'm engaged" he finally notices the massive blue rock on her finger....

So I am lead to believe men....or atleast these two men........not the most observant creatures in the world! :p;)

[AChloeChick]

Actually, I think it's because they're just too into Chloe to notice anything else. Especially Davis!

Besides, men aren't exactly the most observant when it comes to things like that.

[BadToad]

Well, she's wearing some big, tacky plastic ring on her finger. Who would think that was an engagement ring?

If Chloe was hanging out around me, and she told me that was her engagement ring, I'd have to talk a little sense to the girl and tell her that sentiment is fine and lovely, but her guy can spring for a decent ring with a diamond on it.

The whole plastic ring being endearing thing that Chloe has going is totally not working for me. She deserves a proper ring!

[AndiGirl]

Actually, I think it's because they're just too into Chloe to notice anything else. Especially Davis!

Besides, men aren't exactly the most observant when it comes to things like that.

Possibly.....which I cant lie...I like the way you think! :rotfl:
But Chloe even flat out looks at it for a good 5 seconds when she's talking to clark...about "changes" being made.

Then Davis....if you hit on a girl, I thought it was usually a first rule...check the finger.

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Well, she's wearing some big, tacky plastic ring on her finger. Who would think that was an engagement ring?

If Chloe was hanging out around me, and she told me that was her engagement ring, I'd have to talk a little sense to the girl and tell her that sentiment is fine and lovely, but her guy can spring for a decent ring with a diamond on it.

The whole plastic ring being endearing thing that Chloe has going is totally not working for me. She deserves a proper ring!

Yea she does deserve a real ring...I'm hoping Jimmy gets her atleast that! I loved how Davis called her out on it too..."thats interesting" then chloe feels she needs to defend it.

I can understand if it was on her other hand...but I think I would wonder if it was on her wedding finger. But you're right...nobody would ever just look at that ring and think "Oh...an engagement ring!"

Did you notice Clark never even asked why her engagement ring was a huge plastic blue heart. :lol:

[Storm45]

I think they couldn't believe that a guy would give a .25 cent plastic ring to their fiancee.

[AndiGirl]

^^

True!! :lol: but wouldnt you atleast ask....I could see Clark putting his foot in his mouth.
"Chloe...whats that huge thing on your finger??" :o :lol:

[Jade4813]

:lol:

I don't think Davis was looking at Chloe's FINGER, you know what I'm saying? ;)

And for a man whose mind is supposed to be like a steel trap, Clark does have such moments of blindness sometimes! Like...when people have huge gashes on their faces. And you expect him to pick up on a relatively small (in comparison) blue ring? Pssh. SUCH a guy.

I did like that Chloe wasn't just shifting her bag around thinking he might notice. It looked like she was TRYING to get him to notice. I do think that goes back to her not knowing how to tell him - she was hoping he'd notice and ask her about it so she wouldn't have to. I was glad they didn't show her seeming to be too sad when he didn't. Likely, she recognized that Clark was just being blind...as men so often are.

*sighs* My brother mentioned last night that all wedding dresses look the same to him. :rolleyes: Honestly. It MUST be a male blindness things.

[AndiGirl]

Oh...I know what you're sayin...he was looking somewhere entirely different when she was on the table. ;) But still come on Davis....women in their early 20's not a far leap to assume they may be engaged or married. But you know...this could be a good thing too. Chloe certainly didnt come off like she had a guy at home....and Davis really had no idea that she might. (except when he was being a creeper when chloe and clark were talking...which was weird) So Chloe....maybe Jimmy.....needs to take a hike??

I know, Chloe just kept moving her poor little bag....trying to catch the sun in her beautiful blue piece of plastic...anything to get clark to bring it up, but nada!

Ugh....men! Thats weird that your brother said that....because not too long ago I was helping a friend pick out her dress, and her uncle said "what does it matter....a white dress is a white dress." They just dont seem to understand. :lol:

[Supes4Ever]

As a guy, and one who has had his share of romantic pratfalls, here's some real-life answers:

1) Is she hot? Chloe is pretty good looking. If the girl is hot, our brains tend to go pretty fuzzy. For example, I hit on a girl I met because she was funny, smart, and really hot, and then she told me she was engaged. Turns out there WAS a ring on the finger, but in my "haziness" I forgot what finger and hand the ring is supposed to be on. So I noticed it, and DIDN'T notice it.

2) If it was a cheap plastic ring like that, I would think it is something girls normally wear and not an engagement ring. Don't girls like to wear cheap jewelry and stuff like that on a lot of fingers and their wrists?

3) Is she hot? Yeah, I said it twice. If she is hot, some kind of weird competition internally kicks in when we see the ring, and we want to "steal her away" from the other guy. I am not kidding, I found myself trying to figure out in my head how to get this one girl away from the guy she was going to marry. Too bad that guy was a work colleague, or I might have tried it.

Oh and sorry, a white dress is a white dress. As long as YOU are happy with it, we tend to not care what it looks like. Plus....it really isn't there for us to be LOOKING at, if you catch my drift...

[AndiGirl]

As a guy, and one who has had his share of romantic pratfalls, here's some real-life answers:

1) Is she hot? Chloe is pretty good looking. If the girl is hot, our brains tend to go pretty fuzzy. For example, I hit on a girl I met because she was funny, smart, and really hot, and then she told me she was engaged. Turns out there WAS a ring on the finger, but in my "haziness" I forgot what finger and hand the ring is supposed to be on. So I noticed it, and DIDN'T notice it.

2) If it was a cheap plastic ring like that, I would think it is something girls normally wear and not an engagement ring. Don't girls like to wear cheap jewelry and stuff like that on a lot of fingers and their wrists?

3) Is she hot? Yeah, I said it twice. If she is hot, some kind of weird competition internally kicks in when we see the ring, and we want to "steal her away" from the other guy. I am not kidding, I found myself trying to figure out in my head how to get this one girl away from the guy she was going to marry. Too bad that guy was a work colleague, or I might have tried it.

Oh and sorry, a white dress is a white dress. As long as YOU are happy with it, we tend to not care what it looks like. Plus....it really isn't there for us to be LOOKING at, if you catch my drift...

Well thank you for that insight Joe!!! :)
So basically....Chloe is hot, so Davis didnt notice. And Clark probably just assumed it was a weird fashion statement. :p

I kind of hope you are right about wanting to steal a girl away when she is engaged...steal her Davis....steal her!! :rotfl:

[Mini Wolfsbane]

Well, she's wearing some big, tacky plastic ring on her finger. Who would think that was an engagement ring?

If Chloe was hanging out around me, and she told me that was her engagement ring, I'd have to talk a little sense to the girl and tell her that sentiment is fine and lovely, but her guy can spring for a decent ring with a diamond on it.

The whole plastic ring being endearing thing that Chloe has going is totally not working for me. She deserves a proper ring!

YES!!! Exactly. She's just waving it around like it's a flippin' huge diamond on her hand. What idiot would automatically even percieve that to be an engagement ring?
It looks like she raided a 5 year olds jewlery box. Let's hope Lois knocks some sense into
her or makes Jimmy by her an actual ring!

(I think this episode made me angry more then anything. I've been using words like flipping and freaking ever since I started posting a little while ago.)

I'm a girl and I can appreciate sentementality, (I'm really sentimental myself), but if a guy can't even afford a proper ring and just gets you something from a gumball machine (or wherever the heck he got it) to me that would just spell "Get out now before he puts the two of you in the poor house". Or something else more...uh...strongly worded. (Like this guy is obviously a loser, how could you allow yourself to be with him?)
If a guy proposed to me with that tacky childish thing I'd probably throw it back at him and demand a real one (Probably not, I'm not that cold) or think it was a joke. Or, you know, do the smart thing and break up with him. Gently, though, if I had to. I'm not
that mean.

You can't live on love alone. I thought Chloe was smart enough to know that.

I wonder how much the writers had to drink before they thought up the "tacky heart ring that looks like kids jewlery" brilliant idea? I certainly hope that it's not based on any real life experiences. (This is Smallville not My Big Fat Redneck Wedding!!)

Edit:

Oh, and by the way, speaking from a girl's point of view, if I see a hot guy, usually the first or second thing I check for is a ring.

And as for "A white dress is a white dress". Please. Just wait until you single guys get married and see your bride walking down the aisle. She will take your breath away. You'll see.
(At least, that's what my mother said when my brother got married. I wish I could speak from experience there but I can't. Sadly, most of my 20 year old friends can!-I'm a little older then them
and still single.)

[AndiGirl]

^^ :lol: Oh...I loved your post!! ;)

I completely agree.....Jimmy, if you cant buy the girl a ring...maybe you shouldnt ask her to marry you??

I agree....I am sentimental as well...but there are things a girl waits her entire life for...and an engagement ring is one of them.

What confuses me is...didnt jimmy say, when he proposed...that it was rushed and they would visit "tiffany's in the morning." To me that implied he would fix her up with a real ring....well...its been a week, where is it Jimmy??

I SOOO agree on the "you cant live on love alone" I fully intend to finish my masters degree before I get married. I want to be out of school and self sufficient.

But...the two of them are planning on building a life together when up until this point chloe was unemployed and jimmy works in the basement as a photpgrapher. How do they plan on doing that???

[Mini Wolfsbane]

^Aw, thanks!! Sometimes I just go off on a tangent and I'm afraid know one will know what the heck I was talking about. I'm glad you did.

Agreed on there are things a girl waits her intire life for. Maybe it's all the Disney movies I watched growing up, but it's one of my big dreams to get married.

*puts a dunce cap on Jimmy* Appearantly Jimmy is rivaling Clark in the clueless department.

I'm not sure if I'll be living independently before I get married or not, but at this point, it sounds kinda nice. (I won't get into it, but let's just say I live a VERY sheltered life right now and can't wait to have my own life. Boyfriend or no boyfriend.) I wish I could marry rich and be financially secure, but that's a pipe dream. The best I can hope for is someone who treats me right and has a steady job. As for me, I've barely begun to decide what I'm going to do with my life. I'm still figuring it out.

LOL!! Good, good points! I didn't even think about that. I guess they will live above the Talon and have Jimmy's meager income to live off of while using plenty of food stamps.
(No offense to anyone who uses them.)

[Kevin24]

You know maybe we aren't observant because I didn't notice that ring on her finger until Davis did.

[znz212]

What's up with all the male bashing? Why is it okay these days for people to insult men. In the media, men are always the idiots of a relationship. They do the stupid things and it's up to the woman to fix it. If it was the other way around there would be letters written and lawsuits filed.

And why do women need a guy to spend a few thousand dollars on a ring to say "I love you"? What's the saying...a guy should spend 3 pay cheques on an engagement ring? How about 2 people fall madly in love, they don't care how big the diamond is, and they have a bit more money for a honeymoon or towards a downpayment on a home. A ring can be beautiful without having to be expensive. How come diamonds are a girls best friend, but all guys get is a dog?

And for the record, I did notice that she was wearing the big blue ring and was trying to make Clark see it, or maybe even trying to hide it from him.

Anyway, that's the end of my rant....


*** Edit ***
To the person who was confused about the line about going to Tiffany's, it was actually a reference to the movie "Breakfast at Tiffany's".

*** Edit 2 ***
Wow...just read the post by Supes4ever...man, you are just everything that's bad about stereotypes. Is she hot? Male macho competition trying to steal a girl away like she's a possession? Grow up already!

[superspider02]

yea davis and clark probably were not looking at her fingers so they didnt notice the ring.

[Supes4Ever]

*** Edit 2 ***
Wow...just read the post by Supes4ever...man, you are just everything that's bad about stereotypes. Is she hot? Male macho competition trying to steal a girl away like she's a possession? Grow up already!


Znz212, I was actually being sarcastic in my post, because I found the question itself pretty insulting. Sometimes my humor doesn't come across on the Internet, so my fault on the wording.

Considering I am single, and looking for a girlfriend, I don't think I would go around talking like I did in my post. Those are stereotypes along with the belief that all guys do nothing but drink beer all day, sit around with our buddies talking about who we would have sex with, which celebrity is hotter then the other, obsess over nothing BUT sports, and I could keep going on.

The truth? I haven't had a chance to date because I have been busy with adjusting to graduating from Undergrad and going on to Grad school for my Master's degree, busy with my job and the fact that I am 22 years old taking care of my three year old Godson (long story, but I am his temporary probably going to be his permanent guardian soon).

Just felt like putting something funny, which I actually though might have come through with things like "is she hot?", or "Plus....it really isn't there for us to be LOOKING at, if you catch my drift.." and my favorite, "Don't girls like to wear cheap jewelry and stuff like that on a lot of fingers and their wrists?" All macho stereotype responses, and the last one is ACTUALLY a stereotype of younger woman now-a-days...

[AndiGirl]

What's up with all the male bashing? Why is it okay these days for people to insult men. In the media, men are always the idiots of a relationship. They do the stupid things and it's up to the woman to fix it. If it was the other way around there would be letters written and lawsuits filed.

And why do women need a guy to spend a few thousand dollars on a ring to say "I love you"? What's the saying...a guy should spend 3 pay cheques on an engagement ring? How about 2 people fall madly in love, they don't care how big the diamond is, and they have a bit more money for a honeymoon or towards a downpayment on a home. A ring can be beautiful without having to be expensive. How come diamonds are a girls best friend, but all guys get is a dog?

And for the record, I did notice that she was wearing the big blue ring and was trying to make Clark see it, or maybe even trying to hide it from him.

Anyway, that's the end of my rant....


*** Edit ***
To the person who was confused about the line about going to Tiffany's, it was actually a reference to the movie "Breakfast at Tiffany's".

*** Edit 2 ***
Wow...just read the post by Supes4ever...man, you are just everything that's bad about stereotypes. Is she hot? Male macho competition trying to steal a girl away like she's a possession? Grow up already!

Who said anything about a stereotype.....If you read my post, the last line says very clearly....that "at least these two men." I didnt say all men by any means...

You noticed the ring, which is awesome....:)

As for the ring....no.....I didnt expect a huge diamond or anything near that. But you say whats wrong with being madly in love...and saving money for the honeymoon. A ring lasts forever...and a honeymoon is essentially a trip. If I really thought the reason Jimmy didnt buy her a ring was because he was saving for their own home I could be understanding.But I think it comes down to the fact that he was totally unprepared, and he has no real plan for their future. Which worries me.
I dont expect 3 months salary by any means...but I truly believe a man knows a ring is a big deal to a woman, and what Jimmy did was cute...essentially. I just never expected that ring would be her permanent ring.

You say my post was rude against men....but how was yours not a sterotype against women??? You say..."diamonds are a girls best friend" and you went on a rant about why women are self absorbed and it shouldnt be about the ring. Which i must say....I dont buy the whole "diamonds are a girls best friend thing" I actually dont own a single diamond....but I have a dog. So there goes that theory. :rotfl:

I didnt mean to offend anyone with my thread....I just thought it was cute the boys seemed so surprised Chloe was engaged, when that ring is hard to miss from a mile away. :)

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Znz212, I was actually being sarcastic in my post, because I found the question itself pretty insulting. Sometimes my humor doesn't come across on the Internet, so my fault on the wording.

Considering I am single, and looking for a girlfriend, I don't think I would go around talking like I did in my post. Those are stereotypes along with the belief that all guys do nothing but drink beer all day, sit around with our buddies talking about who we would have sex with, which celebrity is hotter then the other, obsess over nothing BUT sports, and I could keep going on.

The truth? I haven't had a chance to date because I have been busy with adjusting to graduating from Undergrad and going on to Grad school for my Master's degree, busy with my job and the fact that I am 22 years old taking care of my three year old Godson (long story, but I am his temporary probably going to be his permanent guardian soon).

Just felt like putting something funny, which I actually though might have come through with things like "is she hot?", or "Plus....it really isn't there for us to be LOOKING at, if you catch my drift.." and my favorite, "Don't girls like to wear cheap jewelry and stuff like that on a lot of fingers and their wrists?" All macho stereotype responses, and the last one is ACTUALLY a stereotype of younger woman now-a-days...


I thought your post was funny...and it was clear you were kidding. :)
I'm sorry if my post offended you...I thought I made it clear I didnt mean all men..and just these two particular guys.

Like I told him...I just didnt know how it was possible that the guys missed the huge blue ring on her finger....thats all.

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P.S to ZnZ212....I new it was a reference to Breakfast at Tiffanys....but in the movie, he infact takes her to Tiffanys...so I assumed Jimmy would too. But who knows, Chloe could love her ring and doesnt want another one. Which is cool.

[stenochick]

No self-respecting male would think that gumball machine plastic ring was an engagement ring, and if he did, he would think (after he stopped laughing), "Heck, I can talk her out of it."

[Forever Lex]

ACK. Ring or no ring, big fake plastic blue crap on a finger or glitzy diamond.... Chloe and Jimmy SHOULD NOT BE ENGAGED! Dating & in love, YES! Engaged... NO WAY!

Just chaps my hide. Grrrr.

[AndiGirl]

No self-respecting male would think that gumball machine plastic ring was an engagement ring, and if he did, he would think (after he stopped laughing), "Heck, I can talk her out of it."

:rotfl: You are awesome stenochick!!!

[Mischael12]

Its not cliche thats for sure, ring lasts forever? You do know that the engagement ring and the wedding bands are two different things right?

Maybe he has a pretty amazing wedding band waiting for her.

[AndiGirl]

Yep, I am aware of that...thanks.
How is it cliche??

An amazing wedding band to go with the gumball ring?? I'm sorry....thats ridiculous. I've said it a million times...but whats one more.

It's not about the ring...Jimmy isnt prepared at all, so i seriously doubt he will have an amazing engagement band.

[Mischael12]

the cliche is typically an expensive ring, thats what everyone expects. Don't get me wrong I think its a bad idea, but you have to take a look at who the character is. Its Chloe, this is what she liked about Jimmy, he wasn't one of those guys who thought about money its the fact that he is thinking about what will make her happy, and lets be honest we know that he will do all that he can to make sure that she is happy.

Of course that isn't enough, but this isn't the real world, and who knows what else Jimmy is working on now.

[krpto]

The first thing i do is look to see if the woman I'm talking to is wearing any rings since I don't want to get caught flirting with an engaged women I've had enough jealous boy friends try to kick my butt just for saying hi to thier girl friends I don't need a jealous fiance coming after me because I'm not observant. Yup I'm parinoid but after having several women try to but me between them and thier boyfriend's im not very trusting.

But yah most of the time guys are oblivious to women getting engaged i've just learned rto keep my eyes and ears open around them.

[Storm45]

A ring doesn't have to be expensive. But at least it could be beautiful and not-cheap looking.

[AndiGirl]

the cliche is typically an expensive ring, thats what everyone expects. Don't get me wrong I think its a bad idea, but you have to take a look at who the character is. Its Chloe, this is what she liked about Jimmy, he wasn't one of those guys who thought about money its the fact that he is thinking about what will make her happy, and lets be honest we know that he will do all that he can to make sure that she is happy.

Of course that isn't enough, but this isn't the real world, and who knows what else Jimmy is working on now.

Nicely said! :) I agree....that is one of the things Chloe does love about Jimmy, that he isnt really like other guys. And I admitt...the proposal....was very cute. I just expected him to follow up with a real ring. A diamond ring is kind of a cliche, but then it's something a woman dreams about...and to have it be a dud is a rather big let down. It's not just about the woman getting some "bling." :lol: It's supposed to symboloze the promise a man and woman make to eachother...and a blig plastic ring doesnt look too promising.

But then I started thinking...maybe chloe doesnt want another ring? This could all be her. Because...I know, I would want to wear the ring the guy used to propose with...thats the whole point, the sentiment behind it. So who knows....maybe Chloe doesnt want a diamond ring. I kind of doubt that though...

I do still hope Jimmy has something up his sleeve, maybe he's planning on surprisng her with it or something! :)

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The first thing i do is look to see if the woman I'm talking to is wearing any rings since I don't want to get caught flirting with an engaged women I've had enough jealous boy friends try to kick my butt just for saying hi to thier girl friends I don't need a jealous fiance coming after me because I'm not observant. Yup I'm parinoid but after having several women try to but me between them and thier boyfriend's im not very trusting.

But yah most of the time guys are oblivious to women getting engaged i've just learned rto keep my eyes and ears open around them.

I kind of assumed that would be the case. Who wants to get their butt kicked? :rotfl:
But...I've been thinking about smallville history...and at the bowling Alley in Freak, the guy hits on Lana...and she has a HUGE rock on her finger....so who knows, maybe thats not something guys always look for?

[krpto]

I kind of assumed that would be the case. Who wants to get their butt kicked? :rotfl:
But...I've been thinking about smallville history...and at the bowling Alley in Freak, the guy hits on Lana...and she has a HUGE rock on her finger....so who knows, maybe thats not something guys always look for?

I didn't use to look but I had enough women flirting with me 5 feet from thier boyfriends (i sware women want to make men crazy jealous freaks) that I got sick of running because their boyfriends came after me that I've recently started looking at a woman's hand to see if she is engaged before I'll have a conversation with them.

[Kevin24]

I was disappointed with Chloe being flirty with Davis having just been engaged to Jimmy. She was waaaaaaaay to friendly with him and giving him to many signs to go forward with the flirting because she obviously loved the attention.

My faith in her was restored when she said she was engaged and showed him the engagement ring! I was like "way to go Chloe!" but then the end scene she disappointed me again by calling him and leaving a voicemail........

Plus that Davis dude didn't show much respect even though he already assumed she was with someone.

[AndiGirl]

I was disappointed with Chloe being flirty with Davis having just been engaged to Jimmy. She was waaaaaaaay to friendly with him and giving him to many signs to go forward with the flirting because she obviously loved the attention.

My faith in her was restored when she said she was engaged and showed him the engagement ring! I was like "way to go Chloe!" but then the end scene she disappointed me again by calling him and leaving a voicemail........

Plus that Davis dude didn't show much respect even though he already assumed she was with someone.

I honestly think chloe is just completely naive when it comes to guys. She doesnt seem to understand when they are coming on to her....I think it finally hit her when she was on the table.

I dont think there was anything wrong with chloe calling him at the end, because Davis backed off immediately when chloe told him she was engaged...not only that, he encouraged her.

Davis didnt seem certain Chloe/Clark were together when he watched them at the bus crash...so he went for it. I dont blame the guy. Once Chloe laid down the law...he was fine and backed off. :)

I do agree though, if the flirting continues...chloe needs to re-evaluate her relationship. but then we also know Chlavis cant go anywhere....so it's sad to see her end up alone again. :(

[SteveS]

:l

*sighs* My brother mentioned last night that all wedding dresses look the same to him. :rolleyes: Honestly. It MUST be a male blindness things.

Your brother spoke the truth, as he sees it. Engagement rings, ostentatious or modest, are for the girl and her friends and pushed by the jewelry industry. Guys don't sit around imagining engagement rings nor are they impressed by such. Along that line, the white dress is traditional but will be worn once, more than likely greatly out-grown within 5 or 10 years and with about a 50% divorce rate, not something that guys generally feel a great interest in or an affinity for.

Metrosexuals and Franck from "Father of the Bride" may feel entirely differently.

Fortunately, I will never see ClarkMan give such to a lois on Smallville, but he definitely carries a smoldering torch for Chloe. :)

[shamville]

Jimmy is cheap i think he could give her real ring by now. This one she show off ring clark and davis act like really engage.

[eas]

I don't think Davis was looking at Chloe's FINGER, you know what I'm saying? ;)

LOL.. that's very true. He was really into her.


I did like that Chloe wasn't just shifting her bag around thinking he might notice. It looked like she was TRYING to get him to notice. I do think that goes back to her not knowing how to tell him - she was hoping he'd notice and ask her about it so she wouldn't have to. I was glad they didn't show her seeming to be too sad when he didn't. Likely, she recognized that Clark was just being blind...as men so often are.

Yeah, I noticed that, too!! It was like she was really afraid to tell him and thought that if he brought it up, it'd be easier. But Clark didn't even notice!! And so she's like, "Oh well...".

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I honestly think chloe is just completely naive when it comes to guys. She doesnt seem to understand when they are coming on to her....I think it finally hit her when she was on the table.

I dont think there was anything wrong with chloe calling him at the end, because Davis backed off immediately when chloe told him she was engaged...not only that, he encouraged her.

I do agree though, if the flirting continues...chloe needs to re-evaluate her relationship. but then we also know Chlavis cant go anywhere....so it's sad to see her end up alone again. :(

Oh, I didn't see it that way. I thought that Davis was kind of accusing her of being a stalker (and into him, in a flirty way) and she was like, "No, no, it's not like that! I'm engaged, so it's all in the up and up..."

I thought it was sweet that she said that the story behind the ring was important. However, I agree: If she keeps looking at Davis the way she was, then she needs to re-think her relationship with Jimmy. She may need to take back her "yes".

And then she should go hook up with Bart... ;)

[malft]

Even real life engagement rings can be obnoxious, and only for decoration. They aren't to protect a woman from the advances of other men, they are like collars to keep your beloved in line. I've been married for 28 years, my wifes wedding dress is in the cedar lined closet. I have no idea what it looks like, couldn't decribe it to you if I was looking at it. One more thing for a womans' most important day of her life, (cross fingers) that is meaningfull only to her. Most women truly don't rate white wedding dresses today.

[27CDruid]

When they say 'guys are from mars, girls are from venus' they really mean it. Our brains are wired in a completely different way.

Most guys have at least 5 areas they are gonna check chloe out in. Some may have more or less places (one of my mates likes elbows) depending on taste. The ring finger is somewhere most males wouldnt look.

BOO to all the people demanding expensive rings! Its the thought that counts. Ive personally found that with increased wealth comes increased ego in all guys, although this isnt always true.

[BULLITT]

When the woman is a 'friend', then No, we wouldn't notice.
Chalk it up to another difference between the sexes, it dosen't need to be analysed.

[AndiGirl]

When they say 'guys are from mars, girls are from venus' they really mean it. Our brains are wired in a completely different way.

Most guys have at least 5 areas they are gonna check chloe out in. Some may have more or less places (one of my mates likes elbows) depending on taste. The ring finger is somewhere most males wouldnt look.

BOO to all the people demanding expensive rings! Its the thought that counts. Ive personally found that with increased wealth comes increased ego in all guys, although this isnt always true.

I dont think she has to have an expensive ring at all.....but I also think it's appropriate to spend more then 25 cents. Chloe deserves a real engagement ring......I dont care if it's a 100 dollar knock off, that would still be a step up from something he got out of a gumball machine.

[27CDruid]

Oh so now theres a $100 minimun??? :p

Personally i thought it was kinda sweet of jimmy. He should get her a real one that doesnt melt in the washing machine though.

[alejandrita439]

Actually, I think it's because they're just too into Chloe to notice anything else. Especially Davis!

Besides, men aren't exactly the most observant when it comes to things like that.

hahaha:lol::lol:
agree with you :)

[Humdinger]

A ring doesn't have to be expensive. But at least it could be beautiful and not-cheap looking.

And would stay on her finger even if she was thrown down the steps! Wrap some string around that bad boy, Chloe!

[TheLeague]

yes because if someone wears a plastic toy ring you instantly assume its an engagement ring :rolleyes:

[Minamostaza]

Chloe needs a better ring. But I do find it really romantic to be wearing the first ring your boyfriend gives to you, because like Chloe said "It makes it special" so she probably likes and loves her ring because it was special at that moment for her. If I was Chloe I wouldn't drop that ring, I might keep it in some place very safe or might be put it on my neck as a necklace, and put on the "real" ring of course.

[borednow]

Chloe needs a better ring. But I do find it really romantic to be wearing the first ring your boyfriend gives to you, because like Chloe said "It makes it special" so she probably likes and loves her ring because it was special at that moment for her. If I was Chloe I wouldn't drop that ring, I might keep it in some place very safe or might be put it on my neck as a necklace, and put on the "real" ring of course.

It is very very romantic.

I'd rather wear a tacky piece of plastic that came from something special then a beautiful diamond that meant nothing to me.

I think Jimmy wants to do the breakfast at Tiffany's thing with Chloe, let her pick out the ring, and maybe Chloe hasn't wanted to take that step yet...

however yes, men, and some woman are clueless about noticing stuff like that, I'm including myself here. Of course it's not the worst case of tunnel vision I've ever seen. I ran into my uncle at Target once and I couldn't get him to turn around and look at me! :lol: He just kept walking. :rotfl:

[Cychotec]

Yeah, I wouldn't look at that thing and think its an engagement ring... My face would probably just twist up into a weird look for half a second, then I'd continue investigating the bus explosion...

But perhaps I'd think it could be some kinda mind control device, cooked up in an elaborate scheme by the TOYMAN! Next thing Chloe and a bunch of 10 year olds start robbin banks around town... AND ITS ALL JIMMYS FAULT!! DAMN YOU JIMMY AND YOUR CHEAP ASS!! DAMN YOU!!

Batman wouldn't notice the ring either :P

[borednow]

Batman wouldn't notice the ring either :P

He would if she were a suspect... otherwise no...:lol:

[neo0721]

that looks like a ring from a cracker jack box or maybe a ring pop i would been like "hey chloe wassup, oh look you have a ring pop i'm starved, and then taken a bite out of it" lol

[faz]

I know this sounds terrible, but for guys, boyfriends/fiancees are obstacles. If we do happen to notice the ring, it just gives us an idea of how hard we have to work. But the finger would probably be the last thing I'd check when looking at a girl. We're simple, one-track minded creatures.

[xrayvision]

Batman wouldn't notice the ring either :P

So true. :)

[BULLITT]

yes because if someone wears a plastic toy ring you instantly assume its an engagement ring :rolleyes:
:rotfl:

[Fallen One]

When guys are around chicks, the absolute last thing we focus on are fingers. Unless a ring is placed in cleavage, I don't think its going to noticed.

I hope that helps, AndiGirl. If you have any more questions about life, I'm here to answer them all.

[Iluvgreen]

Its a plastic ring!!!!!!!!!!! he prolly thought that it was some cute tolken or something. amaybe he thought she wanted to wear it cuz it was pretty. :)

[AndiGirl]

yes because if someone wears a plastic toy ring you instantly assume its an engagement ring :rolleyes:

Good point. :lol:. But if it was on that particular finger....I would either think the girl is incredibly sad...and playing make believe marriage proposal like we did when we were 5.

Or there's something up....and maybe she is engaged, or likes tacky jewlery.

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When guys are around chicks, the absolute last thing we focus on are fingers. Unless a ring is placed in cleavage, I don't think its going to noticed.

I hope that helps, AndiGirl. If you have any more questions about life, I'm here to answer them all.

Thanks Cedric!
I dont know what I would do without your guidance through life. :lol:

[Atomic girl]

I read all these posts and I had to respond. I had this great plan to start dating seriously a few years after I graduated from college and was well into my career. Then, BAM, I meet my future husband right before my 18th birthday, my freshman year in college. I got engaged my sophomore year of college and since I was so young no guy noticed my diamond engagement ring on my finger. It was the classic, solitaire engagement ring, so I don't think it sent mixed messages. I found that after meeting any guy, I would work my boyfriend, fiance, and then husband into any conversation and pronto. Usually right around the second sentence out of my mouth referred to him.

I had a good friend (a study buddy) thank me for helping him avoid an awkward situation by doing that. He said he wished any girl dating another guy would do that, since there is no way to see if a girl is dating someone. He said otherwise he might very well have asked me out. This way we were very good friends throughout college and to this day.

I don't consider it cluelessness as much as I see it as guys just giving themselves a chance. Today girls don't even follow the "rules" when it comes to wearing rings. So even seeing a ring doesn't mean a girl is taken, so we gals need to give guys a heads up and say something.

And to weigh in on this particular instance. I would feel a little like my proposal was rushed if I was given that plastic ring. I want the guy that proposes to have really thought about it. My guy found out what I liked in rings, found one and even had it sized before he proposed. That's how well he knew me and how well he had thought it out. So Jimmy, you need to get get a "real" ring and soon......let your girl know how much she means to you.

[yoxodo]

Jimmy must be making a fairly decent wage at the DP. To try and pass off a toy as an engagement ring makes me wonder what Jimmy has going on extra-curriculur-wise.
No wonder Chloe's interests are straying.

[27CDruid]

and playing make believe marriage proposal like we did when we were 5.


Girls actually did that? A very weird species indeed....

[LovelyLoisLane]

I thought the bubblegum ring was supposed to be a tide over because Jimmy had to get something at the hospital? So . . . where's the real one? Did Chloe really want to wear the one he gave her? She WAS the one that brought up the engagement, even after Jimmy tried to retract it, so that she could accept his proposal. Maybe she's just more excited about the whole thing then we are . . . odd kinda how she was acting in this episode.

But as for men not noticing, lol. Sorry guys, buy sometimes you are very obtuse. I had really really long black hair when I started my job, then I went and had it chopped to a Chloe-length bob with HUGE blonde chunks mixed in with dark brown. At the end of the day my boss says "Val you . . .look a little different? Did you do something to your hair?"

Dude, seriously, it was a severe change and you just noticed there was something different about me? LOL!

So it wouldn't surprise me that both men either didn't notice or assumed it wasn't an engagement ring.

[Cyn]

I am female and I have to come to Clark & Davis' defense here. I wouldn't have thought that ring was an engagement ring either. I WOULD have thought to myself "Tasteless much Chloe", but I would never have said a word to her about it.

Also, my take on the a white dress is a white dress argument...Football, baseball, basketball what differense does it make? A ball is a ball is a ball so who cares if Michael Jordan kicks a field goal and wins the world series?<G>

[ColdPlay3r]

she was wearin a ring?

that was my first thought?
i dint notice until it was brought up
i was observin other stuff

[xrayvision]

But as for men not noticing, lol. Sorry guys, buy sometimes you are very obtuse. I had really really long black hair when I started my job, then I went and had it chopped to a Chloe-length bob with HUGE blonde chunks mixed in with dark brown. At the end of the day my boss says "Val you . . .look a little different? Did you do something to your hair?"

Dude, seriously, it was a severe change and you just noticed there was something different about me? LOL!

So it wouldn't surprise me that both men either didn't notice or assumed it wasn't an engagement ring.

I think that's because most of us look at a girl's face when we talk to one and not her finger. But if a girl I knew changed their hair as you said, now that I would notice for sure. But rings/fingers are usually overlooked by most men. Every now & then I make a point to check (to avoid making a fool out of myself), but most of the time I forget.

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I read all these posts and I had to respond. I had this great plan to start dating seriously a few years after I graduated from college and was well into my career. Then, BAM, I meet my future husband right before my 18th birthday, my freshman year in college. I got engaged my sophomore year of college and since I was so young no guy noticed my diamond engagement ring on my finger. It was the classic, solitaire engagement ring, so I don't think it sent mixed messages. I found that after meeting any guy, I would work my boyfriend, fiance, and then husband into any conversation and pronto. Usually right around the second sentence out of my mouth referred to him.

I had a good friend (a study buddy) thank me for helping him avoid an awkward situation by doing that. He said he wished any girl dating another guy would do that, since there is no way to see if a girl is dating someone. He said otherwise he might very well have asked me out. This way we were very good friends throughout college and to this day.

I don't consider it cluelessness as much as I see it as guys just giving themselves a chance. Today girls don't even follow the "rules" when it comes to wearing rings. So even seeing a ring doesn't mean a girl is taken, so we gals need to give guys a heads up and say something.

And to weigh in on this particular instance. I would feel a little like my proposal was rushed if I was given that plastic ring. I want the guy that proposes to have really thought about it. My guy found out what I liked in rings, found one and even had it sized before he proposed. That's how well he knew me and how well he had thought it out. So Jimmy, you need to get get a "real" ring and soon......let your girl know how much she means to you.

A nice post. Though it's always disheartening when I hear "boyfriend" being said. Then again, most times I hear it from girls without any rings. So I guess it's a good thing when you really think about it. Thanks for clearing that up. :)

[Fallen One]

Thanks Cedric!
I dont know what I would do without your guidance through life. :lol:

Sure, no problemo. Thats why I'm here.

[xrayvision]

I went back & saw that Cedric pretty much said the same thing I did in slightly different words. :)

[Atomic girl]

Also, my take on the a white dress is a white dress argument...Football, baseball, basketball what difference does it make? A ball is a ball is a ball so who cares if Michael Jordan kicks a field goal and wins the world series?<G>
I had to laugh at this.....touche......

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A nice post. Though it's always disheartening when I hear "boyfriend" being said. Then again, most times I hear it from girls without any rings. So I guess it's a good thing when you really think about it. Thanks for clearing that up. :)Aw thanks :)

[krpto]

I am female and I have to come to Clark & Davis' defense here. I wouldn't have thought that ring was an engagement ring either. I WOULD have thought to myself "Tasteless much Chloe", but I would never have said a word to her about it.

Also, my take on the a white dress is a white dress argument...Football, baseball, basketball what differense does it make? A ball is a ball is a ball so who cares if Michael Jordan kicks a field goal and wins the world series?<G>

Exactly a dress is a dress a ball is a ball and a ring is a ring.

[AndiGirl]

Girls actually did that? A very weird species indeed....

Yea, not going to lie. I had a boy as a best friend when I was 7, and he gave me a ring made from the twisty ties on a loaf of bread and told me one day we would get married. I think I had it for a long time....it was cute. :lol:

[Sweetie]

I can't blamed them for not notice it.I was sure my self that it was a just a ring like she wears every day.Franckly,I thought that thing sorry that ring was from a bubble gum machine or something.Jimmy is the cheapest fiance ever ;)

[Dustmite]

It has less to do with being observant and more to do with the tacky excuse for a ring. There is now way I would ever confuse that thing for an engagement ring.

[DontCha]

Actually, I think it's because they're just too into Chloe to notice anything else. Especially Davis!

Besides, men aren't exactly the most observant when it comes to things like that.

they just like to look at the boobies.

[Hopefulsuicide]

Clark: so your ready for a change

Chloe: (looks at her ring, slides her hand up to the top of her bag so it's in Clark's vision) um, actually some pretty big changes

Clark: (phone beeps and he is distracted) apparently the godess of journalism is wondering where i am

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sorry i wanted to quote this just to remind everyone what actually happened. Chloe tried to hint by waving the thing in his face, but just as she did this, he looked at his phone and the curiosity he might have gotten was gone

if the scene hadnt been interrupted and he still hadn't noticed then i'd call him oblivious, but i don't think it was that bad

p.s. i'm a girl and i dont always notice stuff like that. it's not that i wouldnt notice the ring, but i might not register that the finger it is on means she must be engaged...

[mistaguitarmasta]

yeah im with you. the phone distracted him it wasn't his fault. and besides, i wouldnt realize which finger and hand an engagement ring would be on. i dont think about that kind of stuff. esp not if it looks like it came out of a vending machine for a quarter.

[AndiGirl]

Clark: so your ready for a change

Chloe: (looks at her ring, slides her hand up to the top of her bag so it's in Clark's vision) um, actually some pretty big changes

Clark: (phone beeps and he is distracted) apparently the godess of journalism is wondering where i am

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sorry i wanted to quote this just to remind everyone what actually happened. Chloe tried to hint by waving the thing in his face, but just as she did this, he looked at his phone and the curiosity he might have gotten was gone

if the scene hadnt been interrupted and he still hadn't noticed then i'd call him oblivious, but i don't think it was that bad

p.s. i'm a girl and i dont always notice stuff like that. it's not that i wouldnt notice the ring, but i might not register that the finger it is on means she must be engaged...

Well technically before they started talking about changes...Chloe shifted her purse...and made her finger front and center quite a few times.

I can understand why people wouldnt think it was an engagement ring...I guess I may just be too forward for my own good, because I'm pretty sure I would still ask about it.

[Meteror Freak]

After watching the episode again....I have to wonder, do men just not notice huge blue rings?? :rotfl:

I mean, Clark seems really surprised to hear Chloe is engaged, but if you watch their first scene....Chloe shifts her purse a lot, and the ring is front and center! So either he saw it and thought Chloe was into huge tacky ring accessories ...or he some how completely missed the massive blue heart on her ring finger.

Then...there's Davis. Who comes into the Isis foundation...pretty much has eye sex with her on the table....then when she exclaims "I'm engaged" he finally notices the massive blue rock on her finger....

So I am lead to believe men....or atleast these two men........not the most observant creatures in the world! :p;)

Well, Lois did not notice either so I guess it's not a guy-thing. :p

[Mischael12]

It was a plastic ring, I would have probably made fun of her about it....

[migo]

Well, she's wearing some big, tacky plastic ring on her finger. Who would think that was an engagement ring?

If Chloe was hanging out around me, and she told me that was her engagement ring, I'd have to talk a little sense to the girl and tell her that sentiment is fine and lovely, but her guy can spring for a decent ring with a diamond on it.

The whole plastic ring being endearing thing that Chloe has going is totally not working for me. She deserves a proper ring!

Jimmy explained that he had to get something really quickly, besides, if you're in love you're not so shallow to think only a diamond ring counts.

[Russ-L]

And would stay on her finger even if she was thrown down the steps! Wrap some string around that bad boy, Chloe!

I actually think Clark took it off when he saved her. Since Chloe didn't tell him she was engaged he wanted to see for himself. Afterall he probably was upset that Davis knew first.

For somebody who doesn't want to be with her, he can sure fool me.

[zorasuperman]

lol come on this is the guy who didnt realize who strong chloes feelings were from the 1st season EVEN after being told by ryan, the guy who could read ppl's minds. i think clark is just not that observant, like the question pointed out earlier

[xrayvision]

Oh so now theres a $100 minimun??? :p

Personally i thought it was kinda sweet of jimmy. He should get her a real one that doesnt melt in the washing machine though.

$100? That's $94 more than Al Bundy's $6 figure. :p

[HeroesUnlimited]

I read all these posts and I had to respond. I had this great plan to start dating seriously a few years after I graduated from college and was well into my career. Then, BAM, I meet my future husband right before my 18th birthday, my freshman year in college. I got engaged my sophomore year of college and since I was so young no guy noticed my diamond engagement ring on my finger. It was the classic, solitaire engagement ring, so I don't think it sent mixed messages. I found that after meeting any guy, I would work my boyfriend, fiance, and then husband into any conversation and pronto. Usually right around the second sentence out of my mouth referred to him.

I had a good friend (a study buddy) thank me for helping him avoid an awkward situation by doing that. He said he wished any girl dating another guy would do that, since there is no way to see if a girl is dating someone. He said otherwise he might very well have asked me out. This way we were very good friends throughout college and to this day.

I don't consider it cluelessness as much as I see it as guys just giving themselves a chance. Today girls don't even follow the "rules" when it comes to wearing rings. So even seeing a ring doesn't mean a girl is taken, so we gals need to give guys a heads up and say something.

And to weigh in on this particular instance. I would feel a little like my proposal was rushed if I was given that plastic ring. I want the guy that proposes to have really thought about it. My guy found out what I liked in rings, found one and even had it sized before he proposed. That's how well he knew me and how well he had thought it out. So Jimmy, you need to get get a "real" ring and soon......let your girl know how much she means to you.

Atomic Girl,
Just curious. How much do you resemble Saturn Girl? If you looked anything like the Saturn Girl on Smallville, I think I'd ignore the ring too.
;)

[Clana Kent]

Well, she's wearing some big, tacky plastic ring on her finger. Who would think that was an engagement ring?

If Chloe was hanging out around me, and she told me that was her engagement ring, I'd have to talk a little sense to the girl and tell her that sentiment is fine and lovely, but her guy can spring for a decent ring with a diamond on it.

The whole plastic ring being endearing thing that Chloe has going is totally not working for me. She deserves a proper ring!
Yeah, Jimmy said they'd have Breakfast at Tiffany's in the morning, but they never went :lol:

[Lilah]

Okay, I just found this thread, and I think I gotta defend my homeboy Jimmy lol. To be honest, I loved that proposal. I found it so sweet. But maybe that's me cause I'm sentimental.

But you've gotta watch that moment to really appreciate it. Chloe was dying and he realized he almost lost her... that he wanted to spend the rest of his life with her. So he got the first ring he could find at that moment. And it just so happen to be from the hospital gift shop. It doesn't make him cheap, it makes him spontaneous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj3JByW2OBo

I mean, his whole speech is sweet, until the fake DDS busts in.. lol... And he hadn't exactly gotten a new ring, since he was busy probably looking for her.... So he gave her that ring in Odyssey when she came back. And Plastique was like a week later. Then 4 weeks after that she had her real ring.

In the real world, a million things could happen. The ring gets picked, sized, re-sized, changed, adjusted, etc etc.... my friend got engaged in November and her fiancee was working on the ring since like August lol... and even after he proposed they still had to get it adjusted a bunch of times. It wasn't until the new year she was sporting the rock 24/7.