Lois vs. Chloe, wut would u do Clark?

[Alexander III]

For u Chlark fans out there: Clark! Stop the wedding engagment! You know you and Chloe are meant for each other! If you say you want Chloe, she'll throw that engagement ring out of the window without hesitated!!

For u Clois fans out there: Clark and Lois, aren't they destined to be together or what? Look how cute they are, and look at the chemistry they have. Their relatonship will definitely build up alot stronger as season goes on. Besides, who doesn't want Lois, ~ THAT GIRL IS SO DANGERIOUS, THAT GIRL IS A BAD GIRL~

If u were Clark, wut would u do :confused:

[attitudejc]

oh no *closes ears* this might get messy

[thehenry89]

uh oh...and let the fanhawking begin!!!!

[Smallville6]

Lois of course :D
She's his future.
Although Clark and Chloe are very cute together, I'm just more of a Cloiser.

[Minamostaza]

oh no *closes ears* this might get messy

Agree! We shouldn't start with this......we all have favorite characters and favorite couples but let's just enjoy Smallville! Peace!:o

[AndyBear1980]

I prefer him with Chloe, though I do like Lois.

[Fallen One]

That was awesome. Clark just shot down Chloe again, albeit he didn't mean to.

Chloe threw out the "we may not be close friends after the wedding" threat, hoping that Clark would say something. But all Clark did was tell her that her happiness is all that matters. She did not look too happy when they hugged. Did she even put her arms around him?

[rebecavaldez]

It's gonna be Lois. He could have hidden feelings for Chloe. But he would never risk her happiness by saying that he has feelings for her. He wants what he thinks is right for her.
And Lois, well she's not involved with anyone. And Clark has always found her sexy...ok ok..so i dont know for sure if he does but he would have to be blind if he didnt!

[myankskent]

I honestly feel that Clark was hurt by the engagement in this episode for two reasons, the first being the fact that Chloe was engaged for a week and never told him about it. The other reason is the fact that Clark does realize that his friendship with Chloe is going to change if she gets married. That means that he can't expect Chloe to drop everything for him all of the time and Chloe can't run to Clark for help all of the time without Jimmy having a problem with it. I actually look forward to seeing how TPTB handle this situation.

[dru-zod2501]

As a Chlarker, the iconic nature of tonight was not lost on me. It was Classic, and even I couldn't help but enjoy it at times, but I still rather dislike Lois

[Alexander III]

Agree! We shouldn't start with this......we all have favorite characters and favorite couples but let's just enjoy Smallville! Peace!:o

We can have a fair talk and truly respect each other! U can truly see two different plots in this episode where Clark have "heartfelt" moments w/ Chloe and "chemistry" moments w/ Lois. I think I said I hated the premere, but I like this episode because of the moments Clark had w/ them. And again, I strongly suggest we shouldn't have huge conflict over these, I'm just trying to make the thread interesting for us. :D

[Vergon6]

I honestly feel that Clark was hurt by the engagement in this episode for two reasons, the first being the fact that Chloe was engaged for a week and never told him about it. The other reason is the fact that Clark does realize that his friendship with Chloe is going to change if she gets married. That means that he can't expect Chloe to drop everything for him all of the time and Chloe can't run to Clark for help all of the time without Jimmy having a problem with it. I actually look forward to seeing how TPTB handle this situation.
I agree with everything you just said :).

[Minela]

Lois. The Chlark tonite was cute, but it was just a goodbye between friends. They were both sad and scared they'll have to change the status quo of their relationship. When Chloe gets married to Jimmy, she'll have to put him first and Clark second. I think both are not ready for that change yet, not Clark and not Chloe. But they will be. Cue in the Fever letter. ;)

[chlarker4eva08]

normally since im a chlark fan i wud say chloe;but lois n clark r destined 2 b 2gether.... sooo lois

[doodie8808]

i love clois! him and chole just seems gross to me as a couple it does not go together in my opinion i still don't really care for chole a lot but her and doomy are GREAT TOGETHER better than chimmy! LOIS AND HIM ARE JUST SEXY AND COOL AND THE BANTER IS AWESOME. I FEEL THEY MAE A GOOD COUPLE

[LovelyLoisLane]

I saw a bit of a connection with Chlark tonight, but nothing that'd make me think they are headed for romance. There is something there between them though, like Clark said, they are more than just friends.

There was also quite a bit of a connection between Chloe and Davis, too bad most of know where that is likely headed.

Honestly I feel like the show is addressing the past will stepping into the future. For instance, paying respect to the fact that Chloe used to be a reporter, and the close friendship she has with Clark. While at the same time planting the seeds of Clois.

I didn't see anything overly romantic, or suggestively romantic about Clois either. Though they did have tense moments. Their last scene together probably was the most suggestive, even with the music. Another thing I noticed was Clark using Lois' words for himself.

In the second episode of season four he used Lois' two for two' as a 'three for three'
Then here in the second episode of season eight he used one of Lois' rules. That was a nice touch.

I also liked how Clark wasn't outshined by Lois, but that it was more suggestive of them having equal ground.

So, I don't think we should base who Clark should end up with by this episode.

[kal-el returns]

I don't know about everyone else, during the scene when Chloe finally reveals to Clark the engagement, Clark says "We're more than friends, Chloe" I had my closed captioning on and Clark was suppose to continue on to say "We're family," but there was no audio for that, so unless you had thecaptions on you wouldn't have seen this. Sorry to disappoint Chlark-ers out there, but that's never gonna happen. Clark considers Chloe family...only.

[Alexander III]

I don't know about everyone else, during the scene when Chloe finally reveals to Clark the engagement, Clark says "We're more than friends, Chloe" I had my closed captioning on and Clark was suppose to continue on to say "We're family," but there was no audio for that, so unless you had thecaptions on you wouldn't have seen this. Sorry to disappoint Chlark-ers out there, but that's never gonna happen. Clark considers Chloe family...only.

Clark's so ...sarcastic...I hate him.

[geminis]

Interesting, kal-el returns.
The Chlark hug was awesome but it felt sad to me. Clark initiated it but it seemed like something was missing, and that, for me, was emotion from Chloe. Her reaction here really made me feel like she is truly moving on. And Clark could sense it.

I agree with myankskent and Minela, Clark was hurt, but it wasn't a devastating blow.

It's still slightly early for romantic Lois and Clark but I can see the possibility.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Sorry but there is NO "Who SHOULD he choose" we know who he WILL choose, Chloe's not even part of the equation, never has been, never will be.

Personally if I were a Chloe fan, I'd want better for her than pining after Clark

[dimeo782002]

That was awesome. Clark just shot down Chloe again, albeit he didn't mean to.

Chloe threw out the "we may not be close friends after the wedding" threat, hoping that Clark would say something. But all Clark did was tell her that her happiness is all that matters. She did not look too happy when they hugged. Did she even put her arms around him?

if you look again she clearly did hug him back and then you fogot to add that clark said her happiness is all that matters and forget everything else " so obviously there something else that he may have wanted to say but clark is a good person all he wants is chloe to be happy he will not have end her engagement just to stay friends with him ! you forgot he also said chloe were more than friends ! he really does care for her wether you people agree or not .

This thread should not even be started all it's gonna do is create negativety and arguments between clois and chlarkers , i have already seen a few rude comments . if it don't stop i will report this thread . Im tired of all this bashing it's not fair to either side to have this thread because it's just gonna cause problems . people see only what they want to see to fit there delusions or there ideals of the show , which everyone has that right , but im certainly not gonna sit here and be bashed for my preference this is just an innopropriate thread !!!

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It's gonna be Lois. He could have hidden feelings for Chloe. But he would never risk her happiness by saying that he has feelings for her. He wants what he thinks is right for her.
And Lois, well she's not involved with anyone. And Clark has always found her sexy...ok ok..so i dont know for sure if he does but he would have to be blind if he didnt!

everyone should follow this persons example !!! this person is clearly a cloiser and has stated there opinion without bashing the other character and see's it the same way i pretty much agree , clark would not in no way let his feelings ruin chloe's happiness , he is not that kind of guy . that does not mean he shot her down and it does not mean he does not care for her , it simply means he loves his friend enough and wants for her to be happy and that is number one for him not his feelings i think the show and clark state that clearly . i am a chlarker and i would like to thank this person for being objective in a mature manner . take care everybody i hope we can all get along on this thread cause we all have a right to be here.

[Fallen One]

Emotional much? Every poster here stated their opinion and moved on. I don't see any arguments taking place. You're the first to threaten anything. Leave the moding to the mods please.

[geminis]

Breathe, dimeo, breathe. Don't worry, it's going to be okay. :) As a Clois fan I can openly say that I know and accept that Clark loves Chloe; he's Superman, he's that kind of guy. It's just that he loves Lois in a different, romantic way. Just not yet.

[SteveS]

I have a strong impression that the new PTB are trying to do an upgrade of lois this season to make those of us who are not her fans accept her and I do feel that she has been less abrasively obnoxious thus far. However, like Chloe settling for someone 'less' than the one she really cares about, I still see this version of lois as much less of a person than the quality of Chloe, so the choice is still easy for me. And I see this embrace as yet again and unsaid bond, one that Smallville's version of lois will never share with ClarkMan. Even with a less abrasive and obnoxious personality.

[amberdawn]

Well she will share a stronger bond with him someday, we just probably won't see it on this show.

[Alexander III]

Sorry but there is NO "Who SHOULD he choose" we know who he WILL choose, Chloe's not even part of the equation, never has been, never will be.

Personally if I were a Chloe fan, I'd want better for her than pining after Clark

Hahaha, who knows, if I was the director of smallville, I could change Chloe and Clark's destiny, make them live happily ever after. :p

[myankskent]

if you look again she clearly did hug him back and then you fogot to add that clark said her happiness is all that matters and forget everything else " so obviously there something else that he may have wanted to say but clark is a good person all he wants is chloe to be happy he will not have end her engagement just to stay friends with him ! you forgot he also said chloe were more than friends ! he really does care for her wether you people agree or not .


I don't think that anybody is denying the fact that Clark cares about Chloe. I think that Clark's main problem, outside of feeling hurt that Chloe never told him that she was engaged, is the fact that he will no longer be able to rely on her all of the time for support because Chloe now has a life with another man, in addition to a new profession that is centered around her meteor ability.

[cygnusx1]

the first thing that popped into my mind during the chlark hug was the apocolypse scene with chloe and george. its looks like ck values her happiness more than anything and is prepared to move on

[AndiGirl]

Well she will share a stronger bond with him someday, we just probably won't see it on this show.

I agree, I dont think we will ever get the full fledged Clois on this show...but they will hint at it.

I fully expect it to end with Clois though.

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I don't think that anybody is denying the fact that Clark cares about Chloe. I think that Clark's main problem, outside of feeling hurt that Chloe never told him that she was engaged, is the fact that he will no longer be able to rely on her all of the time for support because Chloe now has a life with another man, in addition to a new profession that is centered around her meteor ability.

My only thing with that though.....is Chloe shouldnt be having a life with another man, just because she is married..

That didnt come out right...how do I put it...I think if Jimmy was supposed to be the number one man in her life....he would have been all along. Chloe seems to be under some impression that just because she marries Jimmy everything magically changes. If she doesnt feel the need to make him "her guy" or number one guy while they are dating...I dont know why she thinks it will change once they are married.

Yet another red flag. :\

[GreenArrowFan06]

He will choose Lois over Chloe. I mean, no offense...but Clark chooses everyone over Chloe. There was Lana, Alicia ....etc. Chloe and Clark are just meant to be FRIENDS. :cool:

[go_clo]

I think he should definately choose Chloe! She is always such an amazing and loyal person to him and they care so much about each other. They always look way more then friends! Plus Chloe deserves some happiness with Clark after everything!

I like Clark and Lois as friends but thats as far as I think they should go. They look more brother and sister then a couple.

[deusexmachina]

we've already seen lois and clark the tv show, and since chloe doesn't exist anywhere else but this show, well at least originally, why can't they be together? lana was so a drag on chloe's feelings, always being in the way of her love for clark, at the prom for example, now she has to have lois take away her thunder. aaron ashmore already has x babes throwing themselves at him, does he need to roll in on superman now?

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also, and since there are legal rules that clark cannot become superman in this show, and if you go by the movies, then lois doesn't fall for clark until after superman makes his first appearance, then theoretically, lois and clark can't exist in this show, and therefore, chloe must be the one for him now, jimmy be darned!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8fZ97TccxQ

[amberdawn]

There's nothing that says Lois can't fall for Clark. Sorry.

[DGirlLois4Clark]

The one and only Lois Lane, of course:)
Chloe belongs to Jimmy:p

[Jaderoyale]

*rolls eyes*
Must we have a thread like this?
Its purely going to cause arguments where we don't need them.
In my mind, there are two ways to choose. Theres friendship, which Chloe would win, as shes known Clark longer.
And i purely think Clark is attracted to Lois, so he may choose her romantically.

But whats the point?
We know who he ends up with in the end.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

Honestly? I'd rather he choose his tights over a relationship.

Destiny before booty.

[skylar]

*rolls eyes*
Must we have a thread like this?
Its purely going to cause arguments where we don't need them.
In my mind, there are two ways to choose. Theres friendship, which Chloe would win, as shes known Clark longer.
And i purely think Clark is attracted to Lois, so he may choose her romantically.

But whats the point?
We know who he ends up with in the end.

I totally agree with you Jade...
This conversation is really getting old.

[shamville]

Clark should got chloe ring too. Said i don't want you marry jimmy.

[svtwamedfan05]

The one and only Lois. I actually think Clark is fine with the engagement

[malft]

Perhaps I missed the point but, I say Chloe in the afternoon and Lois all night!

[dimeo782002]

I don't think that anybody is denying the fact that Clark cares about Chloe. I think that Clark's main problem, outside of feeling hurt that Chloe never told him that she was engaged, is the fact that he will no longer be able to rely on her all of the time for support because Chloe now has a life with another man, in addition to a new profession that is centered around her meteor ability.

absolutely you can definetly see that ! he was definetly hurt by her not coming to him . I just think for me personally it's hard to say if he cares only as a friend or maybe possibly more and im only saying that because i do see amazing chemistry , that in real life would lead to something . I have read about the captions on tv last night about him saying were more than friends chloe... then in captions ONLY it said were family well anti chlarkers were having a field day with that ! i understand it was there but the powers that be either cut it to keep chlarkers watching or maybe they want us to think he does care more. i guess we will all find out . my point is we all know the future we have been watching and reading for 70 years we know about lois and clark , so why bother trashing other people just because they have another ship preference ? im not talking about you im just talking about this whole relationship thing in general . the hate and arguing over who's better lois or chloe is all matter of opinion even though we know who he will be with i do not see tptb changing that . I just am tired of seeing people write chlarkers are delusional and then they write that last night clark clearly only cares as a friend . well he was a little cold imo. he is scared and he has always had thought of being with chloe he just never had enough feelings to do it , i think there always was attraction there but he has always loved lana more , but for people to say he never thought about being with her is a lie. will he ever be with her? most likely not because i don't see tptb going that route . but there definetly is something there and a lot of people deny that imo !

[BULLITT]

Duuhh?!

[dimeo782002]

Breathe, dimeo, breathe. Don't worry, it's going to be okay. :) As a Clois fan I can openly say that I know and accept that Clark loves Chloe; he's Superman, he's that kind of guy. It's just that he loves Lois in a different, romantic way. Just not yet.

im breathing lol ! im not angry just being honest . i just laugh at the chlarkers are fan wankers comments and that we are delusional lol ! those are my favorite ! i know clark will be with lois it's superman legacy but it does not change the fact that chloe and clark have something that lois and clark will never have imo . yes they may get romantic but they even at this point don't even come close to what chloe and clark have , in years to come in futureville , but on smallville it would be rushed and that ruins everything for me. To see them flirt well thats been going on since season 4 . even in crimson you can see lois thinks he is something whenh she picks up the cd after clark gives it back to her she has kind of a frown and says "{ gee i must have really liked you " that was a start imo. clark also in crimson on red k kissed her so that means he must have attraction to lois in his subconcious , so i can see the continual flirts and stuff but imo it is still no where near chloe and clark and i think personally it never will be because it is a whole entire different relationship.

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Emotional much? Every poster here stated their opinion and moved on. I don't see any arguments taking place. You're the first to threaten anything. Leave the moding to the mods please.

i did not threaten anyone ! yes there has been some arguing .
and it was not me

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Emotional much? Every poster here stated their opinion and moved on. I don't see any arguments taking place. You're the first to threaten anything. Leave the moding to the mods please.

also in the first page of this thread someone said let the fan wanking begin or something of that nature , well that is a start in turing this thread in a bad direction . i always get jumped by the same people . i don't even spell anything in caps and i still get accused of yelling .

it seems starnge it is always the same people.

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I totally agree with you Jade...
This conversation is really getting old.

yeah very old as old as CLANA LMAO !:rotfl:

just kidding.... i can joke right lol

[LovelyLoisLane]

Perhaps I missed the point but, I say Chloe in the afternoon and Lois all night!

ROFL! That was awesome.

Throw in some Tess, stir in a little Maxima and a pinch of Lana.

Yes, I'd like some more Sir. ;)

Clark Kent = Chick Magnet.

[baltazor]

This shouldn't be even a question. The answer to that was already written before the show even started.

[dimeo782002]

This shouldn't be even a question. The answer to that was already written before the show even started.

Yeah this is also smallville not superman . people always throw up mythos well smallville has never gone by mythos . look at all the characters that have been introduced very very early . besides i think this thread is just a question as to what fans think not fact.

smallville has really pushed the envelope as far as mythos goes imo. they have brought lots of chracters before there time . plus have invented chracters that were never part of the mythos so guess what.... chloe is part of the story now wether dc comics or the movies acknowledge it or not they can't erase 8 years of smallville and it can't change the minds of people that want them to be together . if i were clark i would choose chloe . but that is just my opinion

or better yet someone said earlier have one in the morning and one at night lmao !

[LILdevil426]

Look, I am a Chlarker AND a chloe fan. I like Chlark friendship though I would LOVE a romance. I like Clois ( yes beleive it) I like they're banter it is so funny! And we all know that they're ending up together.

What I DONT, Do NOT, NEVER WILL, like is Chimmy.

Look at this point I DONT CARE if Chlark happens or not! I LOVE their friendship and I respect the Clois. BUT COME ON!!!!!!! CHIIMYY!!!??? REALLYYY??? Chloe is a beautiful girl and if Clark didn't see that well too bad! But give my girl the MAN SHE DESERVES!! Like a man example:

Oliver Queen
Lex Luthor
Bruce Wayne
Cyborg
Arthur Curry

Hell BART. I consider BART is better than Jimmy! Give my girl a man that challenges her and is equal to her and that actually looks good with her!!

AND NOW You bring in Davis. A HOT guy who has an interest with chloe and HE'S FREAKING DOOMSDAY!!!!!!!!

WTH!!

George oh where art thou George!

PS3 Give Chloe her HERO.

[Yasise]

I'm not a shipper of any relationship of this show - but I've to go with Lois, because that's the way it's going to go. Period.

[TaZeR]

If I was clark I would pop some red K seduce them and do them both at the same time for 10 hours straight :D

[MeKa]

If u were Clark, wut would u do :confused:

I'd look for Lex.

Oh, wait. That's exactly what I'm doing this season.

Ideally, as a Chlarker I'd want them together. But this is Smallville where you seldom get what you want. Unless you're Lana Lang.

[SueB]

Wake up and smell reality people.

This is Smallville, not the comics. They are desperately rebooting many aspects to the comics but there is more than sufficient evidence that they have intentionally shown that Clark has/will love more than one woman in his existence. As I've argued before, the hearts and flowers "Lois is the only woman Clark every truely loves" BS is just not the Smallville universe.

S1-7 Lana, Lana, Lana. Clark LOVED Lana. More than highschool crush as portrayed in the comics. This is now a SV historical fact. Unchangeable. They've gone off the comics reservation big time with Lana. She is not going to be retconned as someone Clark didn't love on Smallville. Lois fans will just have to deal with the disappointment -- Lana was, and will forever remain, a great love of his. He won't be with her in the future but the show has made it clear that has nothing to do with choosing Lois over Lana. Perhaps in S8 he's show a preference, but at this point, Lana left Clark. Deal.

S1-7: Unrequited romance with Chloe, ambiguous feelings from Clark's perspective. We could talk till we're blue in the face -- those who refuse to see it, will continue to refuse to see it. For every "the door was shut in Devoted" there is a "and opened back up in Zod" argument. At the meta level, TPTB have said, publicly, and numerous times, that they are going to deal with the underlying sexual and love tension b/w these two. They didn't say "we are going to deal with Chloe's unrequited feelings". They acknowledge the relationship is more than unrequited love.
S8: I am a bit surprised they are dragging romantic Chlark to the forefront. They lightswitched the Daily Planet reporter for Clark, seems to me they could have just blown past this one as easily. But, it is unambiguously a subplot (Plastique + at least three more episodes). There are a dozen ways to make it "Clark never had feelings for Chloe". They don't do that. They are intentionally making it an issue. I do agree, however, that they leave enough wiggle room so that those whose entire little fantasy world would crumble over Clark loving Chloe romantically can find a happy place in a fanwank interpretation. So, Clois happens in the end, but pretending he never looked at Chloe in romantic light is just being obstinate. In fact, a major part of the season appears to be deconstructing what these two have JUST so Clois fans can be satisfied the Mythos prevails. BUT, if they didn't have anything in the first place, there would be no need to deconstruct.

S4-7 Clois: brother and sister vibe with clunky romance anvils from time to time. Clark unambiguously found Lois sexy and reacted to that but usually the relationship was clearly meant for not-now. Up until late S7, Lois was pretty consistent about not giving Clark the time of day ("he needs to fix my cable"). She realized he had a hot bod and was a good guy, but she really ignored looking too deep into a relationship with him. And why would she? He was Lana, Lana, Lana.
S8: Clois4EVAH advertisement. Clois anvils on-screen in every other minute. Lois is clearly falling for Clark. Clark is acknowledging the hot babe in his arms but he doesn't show any love feelings in the first two episodes. It's still in future space for him. I am confident this will change this season and he will show a romantic interest in her.

Smallville is not the comics. Lois will win Clark's heart in the end but the "forever" love will not be his only love. There is no hearts and flowers romance of the ages in Smallville for Lois and Clark. They can't pull that off in one year, and probably not two if they give them a second year. There are too many years of history and shared experiences to cram in a monster romance at this stage. The "romance of the ages" bit is going to be left as an exercise for the viewers after the series ends. Doesn't mean they wont have romance, but there is insufficient time to make it believable. Don't get me wrong, "believable" is not high on the priority list of TPTB. But after the series is over, if you could find 100 people who had no knowledge of Superman and the "destiny of Clois" dictate, and then showed them the entire series --- I doubt they'll see Clois as revealed in 1 or 2 years as the epic romance of Smallville. That would be Clana, with a reasonable acknowledgment to the Chlark subplot. Clana was the heart of the show for 7 years. If the series goes 14 years, MAYBE you can compensate.

But don't fret Clois fans, you always have the comics. And Chlark fans, stop beating your head against the wall is my advice. Some Clois fans have to find a happy place in order to deal with the reality that there is no hearts and flowers happy ever after. The producers have acknowledged the ship and the on-screen subplot in Plastique was fairly blatant. You've gotten/are getting your pound of flesh out of Clark's heart this year. There will be those who won't admit it even if Clark said out loud he was in love with Chloe (which I don't think they will do BTW). There is nothing to be gained in trying to convince those who refused to see what is on-screen.

[Jade4813]

:lol: Thanks for the laugh, SueB! I did like the assertion that Cloisers need to find a happy place to believe that their ship is going to play out.

If you think that nobody will ever be closer to Clark than Chloe, that's your prerogative. But I am amused by the implication that everyone agrees with you and some people just don't want to admit it. You know, some people just don't see Chlark, Clois, and Clana the way you do. Likewise, you can believe that the show can never show us why Clark and Lois's love will be forever. What you fail to see is that for some of us, the show already has. There are actually people who (*gasp*) have been watching the show and have found plenty of proof in the show to support the idea that Lana is not Clark's forever love and neither is Chloe.

But I do heatily repeat your own words.

"There is nothing to be gained in trying to convince those who refuse to see what is on-screen."

There are some who, when watching Smallville, see reason why Clark will/should choose Chloe. There are some who, when watching Smallville, see reason why Clark will/should choose Lois. *points up at the poll* If everyone saw the show and the characters' interactions in the way you do, we wouldn't have numbers in both categories would we? And we wouldn't have Chlarkers or Clanaers who have jumped ship to Clois or Clana at some point in the show, would we? Or, hell, even have Chlarkers or Clanaers who entertain a measure of appreciation for Clois (or Chlarkers who entertain a measure of appreciation for Clana) at all.

Alas, Sue, it seems that your way of viewing Smallville isn't the only way possible in which to view Smallville.

[SueB]

Jade4813 ... ITA. Believe it or not. I do. I was speaking more of those Cloiser (which is certainly not everyone) who refuse to accept that Chlark is a real ship on the show.

If I didn't make that clear, let me correct that. Only some Cloiser are blind to other ships. Many many see it just as clearly as you -- it's left to the viewers interpretation on purpose.

I think you and I see the same thing: The show has provided more than one interpretation. My "argument" would be ONLY with those who call romantic Chlarkers delusional or claim that Clois is the only love Clark with truly experience.

ETA: I also thought I made it clear that I fully expect an on-screen mutual Clois romance this year. As for consummation, I actually don't expect it to be but I totally believe Cloisers will get their romance this year. There's no delusion that Clois exists. My only comment is that those who pretend there will be no one who was ever significant to Clark besides Lois are fooling themselves. Further, that that need to prove some sort of "ONLY Lois" is what is at the heart of the pushback against the Chlark relationship.

[Minela]

Yes, Smallville has shown us 7 years of Clana, Clana, Clana... but while doing that they have repeatedly hit us over the head why it doesn't work, never has, and never will. I'm not saying Clark had zero romantic feelings for Chloe, I am saying however that everytime when put up against Lana, Chloe lost. Over and over. Also, TPTB have admited that Clark's true love, the one that works and lasts is a woman who is Chloe and Lana combined. Enter Lois. :D

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There's no delusion that Clois exists. My only comment is that those who pretend there will be no one who was ever significant to Clark besides Lois are fooling themselves. and further, that that need to prove some sort of "ONLY Lois" is what is at the heart of the pushback against the Chlark relationship.

I don't think that Smallville is that different from the comics when it comes to the romance in Clark's life. In the comics, Lois was not the only one. There was Lana, in the begining before the reboot she was Clark's love interest. There was also Lori Lemaris, whom he asked to marry him, and others. Clark had many loves, but Lois was his biggest and truest. And it's always been that way. It won't be different for Smallville.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

I'm just happy they're finally at the Daily Planet working together. As it should be.

Clark can make googly eyes at Jimmy for all I care. I just want him on the right path to becoming Superman. And working at the Daily Planet with Lois and becoming more proactive with his powers around Metropolis is the first real step.

I've been a Cloiser for years. Even before Smallville. Doesn't mean I expect it to be the show's endgame. I want Superman to be the endgame for the show.

I know TW doesn't want to wear the suit, but just some hint of it or at least flying in the last 5 minutes would make me happy.

That's why I watch the show. The ships are just a side story.

[dimeo782002]

Jade4813 ... ITA. Believe it or not. I do. I was speaking more of those Cloiser (which is certainly not everyone) who refuse to accept that Chlark is a real ship on the show.

If I didn't make that clear, let me correct that. Only some Cloiser are blind to other ships. Many many see it just as clearly as you -- it's left to the viewers interpretation on purpose.

I think you and I see the same thing: The show has provided more than one interpretation. My "argument" would be ONLY with those who call romantic Chlarkers delusional or claim that Clois is the only love Clark with truly experience.

ETA: I also thought I made it clear that I fully expect an on-screen mutual Clois romance this year. As for consummation, I actually don't expect it to be but I totally believe Cloisers will get their romance this year. There's no delusion that Clois exists. My only comment is that those who pretend there will be no one who was ever significant to Clark besides Lois are fooling themselves. Further, that that need to prove some sort of "ONLY Lois" is what is at the heart of the pushback against the Chlark relationship.

you said nothing wrong sue and you are one of the most fair people on this forum ! i don't think you ever said your way is the only way to view smallville , i think you were giving your objective opinion . some people just can't seem to stomach that i guess. you were very fair and very respectful of the clois relationship , you always are rspectful of everyone's thoughts . I totally agree with you and your outlook , i don't think chlarkers are denying that clois will or should happen , they just get offeneded when people of other ships say they are delusional or fan wankers. just as you said if there was no chlark then tptb would not be paying any attention to there ship at all ! I also agree that yes we are finally getting acknowledged , because if they thought there was nothing then why even address it. thank you for being as fair as you are to every ship and to everyone . :D

[vikingjedi]

For u Chlark fans out there: Clark! Stop the wedding engagment! You know you and Chloe are meant for each other! If you say you want Chloe, she'll throw that engagement ring out of the window without hesitated!!

For u Clois fans out there: Clark and Lois, aren't they destined to be together or what? Look how cute they are, and look at the chemistry they have. Their relatonship will definitely build up alot stronger as season goes on. Besides, who doesn't want Lois, ~ THAT GIRL IS SO DANGERIOUS, THAT GIRL IS A BAD GIRL~

If u were Clark, wut would u do :confused:

This is a trick question since they're the same person :D

[Autumn]

He should choose Chloe. They obviously love each other. And there's this deep connection between them. Chloe wanted Clark to say something to stop her from marrying Jimmy, but he didn't say anything, although it was clear he wanted to.

I find it interesting, that this season Chloe and Clark are having parallel stories. They are both the heroes, the selfless characters who care more about others than they do themselves. Also, they both have the "villainous" characters falling for them. Tess for Clark (well at least she's attracted to him), and Davis for Chloe.

Chloe and Clark are connected, always will be. With Lois, it's all about how sexy she can be, and how she can get the next byline. She has no point in Smallville. She's filler. Plus, she's very self-involved. Why should Superman be with someone who cares more about what happens to herself than to anyone else? I personally don't like Lois most of the time in any incarnation because of this selfish streak. I mean look at the new Superman Returns. She gets the Nobel Peace Prize for saying the world doesn't need Superman, when really she's saying that "she" doesn't need him. It's all about her. And in Smallville, her constant rude comments and ditzy moments have become old and uninteresting.

There's substance and real love between Chloe and Clark. There's a love between them that isn't all about sex. Plus, not to mention Allison Mack and Tom Welling have some of the best on screen chemistry I've ever seen.

To me, Lois and Clark is all about sex, fighting, and juvenile silliness. While Chloe and Clark is about having a deeper connection, where putting other people before themselves come first. They help each other become the best versions of themselves. To me, that's what love should be about. Not how hot Lois looks in a French Maid costume.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

To be fair. Clark never actually saw Lois in the French Maid costume.

Also, Chlark have a relationship based on years of friendship. That's the kind of love that Clark had with Lana Lang in the comics. Chlark, I'm sorry to say, is just an imitation of that relationship.


Plus, she's very self-involved. Why should Superman be with someone who cares more about what happens to herself than to anyone else?

I think what it comes down to is Lois never wanting to show her vulnerable side to anyone. That's the reason for the tough girl act.

But when the defences are down, that's when Superman sees the person she really is.

[Iluvgreen]

no, clark shouldn't stop the wedding. hes happy for them remember.

[shamville]

He have stop brainiac contol chloe.

[LovelyLoisLane]

I'd say Lois doesn't much care what happens to her, she's always putting herself in danger, knowingly so. Not to mention back in "Lucy" she offered herself up to be kidnapped so they'd let her little sister go, because she told the kidnapper that Lucy was the important one 'she's the one with the destiny'

A lot of what people who hate Lois say about her I find inaccurate and not supported by the show, just as I find what people who hate Chloe say about her is also inaccurate and not supported by the show.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I find most of the complaints, on either side, have little merit. Some of them do, but most of them are caused by vitriol brought on by fighting between shippers. From what 'I've' seen at least.

Not all of it, so before someone gets incensed and throws a 'how dare you' at me, I will say some complaints DO have merit. But sadly a lot of that gets lost when people feel like they have to condescend (Clark turned Chloe down again LOL) to others and character bash (Lois slept her way into her job) to get their point across. And I've seen BOTH Chlarkers and Cloisers be that way, so no one should be acting high and mighty about their shipper group.

Ah well, enough of that. This is a board about SMALLVILLE, not its fan groups.

I'd probably have to lean more towards Lois if I HAD to choose. Kinda hoping I don't and they end the show without Clark in a solid romance. Flirting, some feelings, I'm okay with that. I have however learned to be brave enough to change the things I can, at least TRY and accept the things I cannot change (Chloomy this means you) and maintain the wisdom to know the difference. ;)

I think that at the end of the road that I'd like there to be Clois. but I don't necessarily have to see it. I won't gripe too awfully if it happens, I won't lie, but I'm not 'ra ra go team' over it either. Simply because I just don't feel like they are just yet the people they are in the future and don't yet have all the maturity necessary for a serious relationship like that. I do feel like they are getting closer though, and so far, I'm loving both Lois and Clark this season. It is lovely to be able to love Clark. :)

Now if they decide to explore romantic Chlark, I'll deal with that too. 'I' think the time for that is gone. Certainly I understand that a lot of Chlarkers feel like they've been waiting for some kind of payoff for quite awhile. But there was something between them in 'Plastique' I don't deny what is on the screen, but I think SOME Chlark fans want it to be more than what it was, and I think SOME non-Chlark fans want it to be less than what it was. Me? I don't really know what it was, the show left it ambiguous. So I'm just going to do the only thing I can do. Watch the show. Especially when my hearing-impaired subtitles added in the line 'we're family' to Clark's 'we're more than friends'

Could have been a fluke I suppose. But it does make me think. With things coming up later in the season it certainly makes me want them to do something about the skeletons in the closet. It just feels like, even if all they will ever be is friends, that there is always going to be a 'what if' there and I want that settled.

I'm also curious to see how Chlark may have turned out in a romance. The last time was WAY back when they were Freshman. Lots of things have changed. It'd be interesting, but being that this is Smallville, I'd doubt it'd last and then their close friendship probably wouldn't be as close.

[mistaguitarmasta]

Oh my GOD you people. I can't even believe you're posting this poll. Clark chooses Lois and that's all there is to it. Get over it. Stop holding your breath waiting for "Chlark" to happen because it won't.

[LovelyLoisLane]

Oh my GOD you people. I can't even believe you're posting this poll. Clark chooses Lois and that's all there is to it. Get over it. Stop holding your breath waiting for "Chlark" to happen because it won't.


This is sort of what I mean.

We shouldn't be telling people to get over a ship, that for a lot of them, they've been waiting awhile to get any payoff for.

The end of Smallville isn't here yet, so they could always have some Chlark. It's not impossible. I'd say it is unlikely, but I wouldn't say it's impossible.

In the end I'd hazard a guess that Clark ends up with Lois, just call me a wild card, but that doesn't mean he can't have love interests before then.

[TheLeague]

no option for both? :( darn! i mean cmon who would say no to a threesome with AM and ED!?

[LovelyLoisLane]

no option for both? :( darn! i mean cmon who would say no to a threesome with AM and ED!?

Erica Durance haters? :p

I wouldn't. Bad girl, good girl. It is a nice little mix there. ;)

[individuall]

Erica Durance haters? :p

I wouldn't. Bad girl, good girl. It is a nice little mix there. ;)

Yeah, but which one which;):p

[LovelyLoisLane]

Yeah, but which one which;):p

You mean which one first? Lois of course, she's a bad girl at heart, I know it. Chloe. . . I don't think it would be that hard to talk her into it either, she gets pretty frisky with Jimmy sometimes. His whip-cream enhanced pervi-ness rubbed of on her, no pun intended. :P But it might take a little longer to talk her into it.

[individuall]

You mean which one first? Lois of course. Chloe'd be harder to talk into it.

*snort*

I meant which one is which..meaning bad girl good girl...

I mean I would have assumed Lois was the bad girl...But after seeing that Chlavis light bulb changing IDK...Chloe looked about ready to pounce on Davis...;)
And she is partial to whipped cream...Or that could be Jimmy... :/

[chlark fan]

There was definitely some romantic Chlark chemistry in Plastique. Clark is upset and jealous that Chloe is getting married. He even said "We are more than just friends Chloe" LOVED the Chlark in this epi!!!!!

[LovelyLoisLane]

I don't think he's upset Chloe is getting married, or that she wants to get married. Personally? I think he was upset that she didn't tell him, wary of their friendship changing and not sure if Jimmy is the right one for her, which Lois wasn't too sure of either.

He wants her to be happy though and if he believes that Chloe believes marrying Jimmy will make her happy, I think he'll be all for it.

Could be some jealousy there, but I think that happens a lot in those type of friendships.

[Violet-Shadow]

Clark did tell Chloe that they were more than just friends. Yeah, they are. They are best friends. There is a difference between "just a friend" and a "best friend". Best friends are like soulmates, kindred spirits. Chloe getting married will change the dynamics of their special friendship, that's a given. I really don't think Clark was jealous, evidenced by his reaction to the engagement with Lois. Clark will end up with Lois...because, um, destiny? But he'll always have a special place in his heart for Chloe...as a platonic soulmate.

[Ilidan]

People hurt my brain.

Just watch your show, and enjoy it.

I'm a Chlarker at heart, they could kill Chloe off, and I would still be in that camp, but that doesn't mean I hate Lois or sent Erica Durance death threats.

If it wasn't for Lois Lane's existence, Chlarkers wouldn't have as much fun waving their banners.

If it wasn't for Chloe Sullivan, Cloisers would get a remake of an early 1990s drama.

As long as we're on topic, can we at least agree that Clana hurts the brain? Talk about a dead horse...

PS: This is in no way meant as an insult or a shot against Cloisers....but wtf is a "platonic soulmate"? By definition, someone can only have ONE soulmate.

[Atomic girl]

Someone else said it and I have to agree, Chloe doesn't have to end up with Clark, but Jimmy...oh, puleeze. We see Clark and Chloe and one of the reasons we like them together is the way they compliment each other. Now we're supposed to be happy with Jimmy and Chloe together, when we see how awkward it is. No way. Chloe may not get Clark, but please let her end up with a strong character or no one (at least we can pretend she ends up with a strong person in offscreensville), someone who is her equal when it comes to sleuthing, and risking herself for truth. Someone who can appreciate how she is and what she does. And someone who can handle her friendship with Clark without being threatened. That kind of a guy will make a lot of her fans happy including Chlarkers like myself.

The above paragraph is no slam to Lois, we know Clark ends up with her, no problem there, just don't try to give Jimmy to Chloe to appease us...not going to work.

JMHO

[Yasise]

He should choose Chloe. They obviously love each other. And there's this deep connection between them. Chloe wanted Clark to say something to stop her from marrying Jimmy, but he didn't say anything, although it was clear he wanted to.
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Yes, Chloe and Clark are having a deep connection as you say....but "only" as best friends! And when something in the life of your best friends is going to change, then it is only a natural reaction that you're kind of worried as to how much this change will have an influence or an affect on your relationship with your best friend.
It doesn't really matter if your best friend is a girl or a boy. As a matter of fact, the relationship often changes when your best friend gets married, because he or she has to put his wife or husband before you, the best friend. And it always depends how the new partner of your best friend is going toreact to your best-friend-relationship.
Some take it easy, some don't.

I personally made such an unpleasant experience, when my best friend got married, so I know what I'm talking of.

So, long story short.......Clark loves Chloe, but he is not in love with her. He loves her "only" as his best friend.

Chloe loves Clark and I think, she's still also in love with him. But we know that for a long time now and we always doubted that she will get over her feelings for Clark.

For me, that scene was a proof that Chloe's love (as in: love for a boyfriend) for him is still there, but that Clark still doesn't have those kind of feelings for her.

He always loved Lana that way and is going to love Lois that way soon. The end of the story, as we all know :)


I don't think he's upset Chloe is getting married, or that she wants to get married. Personally? I think he was upset that she didn't tell him, wary of their friendship changing and not sure if Jimmy is the right one for her, which Lois wasn't too sure of either.

He wants her to be happy though and if he believes that Chloe believes marrying Jimmy will make her happy, I think he'll be all for it.

Could be some jealousy there, but I think that happens a lot in those type of friendships.

Yes, exactly what I said above. :)


Clark did tell Chloe that they were more than just friends. Yeah, they are. They are best friends. There is a difference between "just a friend" and a "best friend". Best friends are like soulmates, kindred spirits. Chloe getting married will change the dynamics of their special friendship, that's a given. I really don't think Clark was jealous, evidenced by his reaction to the engagement with Lois. Clark will end up with Lois...because, um, destiny? But he'll always have a special place in his heart for Chloe...as a platonic soulmate.

Yes, of course, that's absolutely true! :) There wasn't jealousy in Clark's heart only concern and hope that Jimmy is the right one for his best friend Chloe.
Chloe is his best friend, so he wants only the best for her. That's all.


Someone else said it and I have to agree, Chloe doesn't have to end up with Clark, but Jimmy...oh, puleeze. We see Clark and Chloe and one of the reasons we like them together is the way they compliment each other. Now we're supposed to be happy with Jimmy and Chloe together, when we see how awkward it is. No way. Chloe may not get Clark, but please let her end up with a strong character or no one (at least we can pretend she ends up with a strong person in offscreensville), someone who is her equal when it comes to sleuthing, and risking herself for truth. Someone who can appreciate how she is and what she does. And someone who can handle her friendship with Clark without being threatened. That kind of a guy will make a lot of her fans happy including Chlarkers like myself........................

Yeah exactly. I personally don't think, that Chloe should end up with Jimmy either. He's just not the right one for her IMO.
As you said before, she needs somebody, who is "stronger" than Jimmy etc.
And when we talk about chemistry - well, I saw definetly more chemistry between Davis and Chloe than I ever saw between Chloe and Jimmy!
That doesn't mean that I want Chloe and Davis to be together, I'm just talking about an observation............

[rick.itch]

im like chloe more then lois but lois is a great person and i gonna say this.
chloe need to go on with her life maybe with a nice gguy plz not jimmy and plz fan stop comper chloe and lois just think they are cousins not rivels haha :D

[Chlois Supporter]

I don't know about everyone else, during the scene when Chloe finally reveals to Clark the engagement, Clark says "We're more than friends, Chloe" I had my closed captioning on and Clark was suppose to continue on to say "We're family," but there was no audio for that, so unless you had thecaptions on you wouldn't have seen this. Sorry to disappoint Chlark-ers out there, but that's never gonna happen. Clark considers Chloe family...only.

Closed captioning is writen by caption writers, after the show has been produced. They make a transcript of the show, and often the closed captioning is not what the characters have actually said. Captions are often edited to make them easier to read, easier for non english speaking people to understand, and to reduce the amount of text displayed onscreen. This editing can be very minor, with only a few occasional unimportant missed lines, to severe, where virtually every line spoken by the actors is condensed. They also add in lines for actions, sound effects, and, depending on the station, leave the swear words in.

What's said in closed captioning should not be taken as what the original content of the show was, as its not even made from anyone involved with the show but by the distributors (in this case the network)

[Violet-Shadow]

PS: This is in no way meant as an insult or a shot against Cloisers....but wtf is a "platonic soulmate"? By definition, someone can only have ONE soulmate.

Um, I think I use "platonic soulmate" and "kindred spirit" interchangeably. It's not all that easy to explain without delving into my own experiences and, thus, going extremely off topic. I also think people can have more than one soulmate (the platonic vs. the romantic). IMO. Yeah, I'm sure that a lot of Cloisers would disgree with me on this point too... It's just my opinion.

Anyway, I'm still all for the Clois but I appreciate the Chlark friendship.:D

[Autumn]

This shouldn't be even a question. The answer to that was already written before the show even started.

You see, but that negates the fact that there are people who watch the show, that don't care about the comics and how they end up (as it stands right now anyway). There are people who watch Smallville for Smallville's sake, not for Superman's.

And the fact that everything is already written before takes away some freedom for originality and for who has the best chemistry.

It doesn't matter who he ends up with per se, it matters who you individually think he should end up with. So to say that it shouldn't be a question isn't really fair because everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

In my personal opinion, Chloe is better suited for Clark. And the only version I've liked of Lois Lane in any incarnation is Margot Kidder. She's just a character I don't usually care for. And ED's Lois is my least favorite of them all. So, in that sense, I think it's a fair question. Because I would love to see a Superman movie, where Clark ends up with someone other than Lois. And yes, I do know that's blasphemous. But I don't really care. :)

Oh, and by the way, maybe in the comics at this point, Clark is married to Lois. But as far as I've seen. The Superman comics haven't come to an end. Some of the writers still think Clark should wake up and say it was all a dream. And if they ever introduce Chloe into the comics, I know who I'll be rooting for. I mean, Gwen Stacey used to be the main love interest for Spiderman. But then they killed her off and made Mary Jane the main love interest. So.......if they've done it before in the comics. Why not again? Did anyone else enjoy the spoiler moment in the Batman movie with the girl? I think if you've seen it you'll know what I mean.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

Supposing the Chloe in the comics is a reboot and nothing like the one from Smallville?

They can't bring in a character whose characteristics already resemble two already existing DC characters.


She's just a character I don't usually care for.

Which is ironic. Because if not for the already established character Lois Lane, Chloe Sullivan (the archetype) wouldn't even exist.

[Jade4813]

People hurt my brain.

Just watch your show, and enjoy it.

I'm a Chlarker at heart, they could kill Chloe off, and I would still be in that camp, but that doesn't mean I hate Lois or sent Erica Durance death threats.

If it wasn't for Lois Lane's existence, Chlarkers wouldn't have as much fun waving their banners.

If it wasn't for Chloe Sullivan, Cloisers would get a remake of an early 1990s drama.

This made me laugh. In a good way! :)

I'm a Cloiser at heart, and if they'd never introduced Lois to Smallville, that wouldn't have changed. But I don't dislike Chloe for Chlarkish reasons.


As long as we're on topic, can we at least agree that Clana hurts the brain? Talk about a dead horse...

Tell me about it! :lol:

If I were in charge of Smallville, I'd have had Clark date Lana Seasons 1-3; part of 4 at the ABSOLUTE most. Then Season 4 (or the rest of it) he could have been waking up to seeing Chloe differently until the season finale. Chlark could have had its day end of S4/beginning S5-6, ending at the latest in early parts of S7. Clark would have been alone again through most of S7, embracing his interest in journalism and his desire to go off and save the world. Chlark would have ended mutually and amicably, so the two of them would remain friends. And Clois would begin to be explored S8.

That's how I would have done it. Though I also might not have have made Chloe and Lois cousins, either. I loved Chlo-Lo back when it came in, but I'm probably harsher on how much I think it's been ruined because they're cousins. So if there was going to be rivalry between Chloe and Lois at ALL, I'd have just removed the family element.

Of course, in my mind, how I would have done it, there would have been no rivalry. Chloe and Clark would have mutually realized that they love each other but it wasn't meant to be and moved on to find the people they were meant to be with. Clark would have met and fallen in love with Lois, and Chloe would have found a hero of her own. *sighs*

Ah, if I were empress of the world.

I also would have written Clana differently and, to me, more enjoyable and less nauseating, annoying, fickle, or shallow. But that's another story. :p


PS: This is in no way meant as an insult or a shot against Cloisers....but wtf is a "platonic soulmate"? By definition, someone can only have ONE soulmate.

Don't ask me. I hate the term "soulmate" and always have.

But I do think there are people I'm very good friends with that I was destined to meet and grow close to. Some of them helped shape me into the woman I am today, and I couldn't imagine my life without them and wouldn't want to. So if I was to guess what "platonic soulmate" meant, it would be something like that.

[Autumn]

:

There are some who, when watching Smallville, see reason why Clark will/should choose Chloe. There are some who, when watching Smallville, see reason why Clark will/should choose Lois. *points up at the poll*

I don't the polls mean much, as a lot of the people who root for Chloe don't come onto these types of websites. Polls can't really be relied on. There have been other polls where Chloe wins by miles, and others where Lana wins.

On a different note, I would gather to say that there are fans for all three couples. I hate shipper wars personally and think they are silly. Does that mean I don't dislike certain couples? No. Obviously, I don't really like Clana or Clois. But, I don't care if other people do. To each their own.

But I certainly don't think these polls represent the millions of people who watch the show. They just represent the people who come onto this website. And I'd gather to say that a lot of Chloe fans have become more and more frustrated each season, and many have started to tune out because they just couldn't take it anymore. In fact, I'm friends with a lot of these people. They tell me to let them know when Clark will finally wake up and get together with Chloe. Then they'll consider watching again.

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Yes, Smallville has shown us 7 years of Clana, Clana, Clana... but while doing that they have repeatedly hit us over the head why it doesn't work, never has, and never will. I'm not saying Clark had zero romantic feelings for Chloe, I am saying however that everytime when put up against Lana, Chloe lost. Over and over. Also, TPTB have admited that Clark's true love, the one that works and lasts is a woman who is Chloe and Lana combined. Enter Lois. :D



But Smallville is not over. How many books and movies take the guy forever to have the epiphany about who it is he really loves? What about "Some kind of Wonderful?" "Wives and Daughters?" "Definitely Maybe?" I mean the list could go on and on.

And I certainly don't think Lois is the combination of Lana and Chloe. They are each individual on this show with very distinct differences.

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To be fair. Clark never actually saw Lois in the French Maid costume.

Also, Chlark have a relationship based on years of friendship. That's the kind of love that Clark had with Lana Lang in the comics. Chlark, I'm sorry to say, is just an imitation of that relationship.

I think what it comes down to is Lois never wanting to show her vulnerable side to anyone. That's the reason for the tough girl act.

But when the defences are down, that's when Superman sees the person she really is.

It's not about Clark seeing her in the French Maid outfit (although he has seen her in some other ones like the stripper outfit). It's the fact that the show uses her as a hot body. Lois uses her body to get what she wants. This is one reason why I don't really like her with Clark.

The French Maid outfit was absurd. Who would actually go undercover dressed like that? Come on. Realistically, the outfit would have been a little longer.

And this is Smallville, not the comics. That said, I'm familiar with Lana in the comics, and while there are a few similarities, I believe they are completely different. And I think that it would be silly to say that Clark does not have mutual feelings for Chloe, because she's like Lana in the comics and he didn't have feelings for her that way. I mean you could clearly show the points in this show where Clark has feelings for Chloe. You could say the same for Lana and Lois. I just prefer Chloe. Others will prefer Lana or Lois.

And I agree with you on how they portray Lois on Smallville.She does have a lot of defenses. But I think she is also very selfish and used more as a sex object and comic relief, which I'm surprised more Lois fans don't get annoyed about. They use some techniques on this show that I find quite odd. Jimmy and Lois are oftentimes written in as the comedic duo used in Greek plays. These character archetypes are found in many films today, but not usually in a leading lady.

Well anyway, it's just a preference on my side. I don't like how she is portrayed on this show, and honestly I've grown tired of the Lois Lane character. I mean in the new Superman movie, her character just fell flat. And in Smallville, I think she gets handed everything on a silver platter because it's her "destiny" and that grates personally. But others might feel differently. And that's okay with me.

[Jade4813]

I don't the polls mean much, as a lot of the people who root for Chloe don't come onto these types of websites. Polls can't really be relied on. There have been other polls where Chloe wins by miles, and others where Lana wins.

I'm not saying the poll above definitively shows that Clois is more popular than Chlark any more than I'd say that past polls on this site proved that Chlark was more popular than Clois or than everyone hates Clana.

I'm saying that if EVERYONE saw the show as telling us that Chloe is the absolute best and only sane choice for Clark, there would BE no poll options. Everyone would see the show the same, so all the votes would be in Chloe's column and all competing columns would read "0." As that's not what happens, it's clear not everyone sees the show the same.

Whether there are more Cloisers or Claners or Chlarkers out there in the world is something we could never definitively poll because not only do the numbers of those different groups who come on this site fluctuate, depending on the general mood towards the ship of choice here, a number of fans in general never come online.

But, still, it's clear people view the ships differently, because if everyone saw Chlark as the be-all-and-end-all for Clark, Lois would have no numbers above. And if everyone saw Clois as the ship to sink all ships, nobody would be voting for Chloe.

The argument this comment was responding to seemed to say, at that point, that it was clear that the showrunners were setting up that Chloe was the only girl for Clark and Clois wasn't going to happen. The OP has since clarified. But my point, that you quoted, was that clearly, not everyone sees the show in the same way. Some people think Chlark is the ship that's been shown to be the strongest on the show. I don't much care for it any longer. Others think nothing will ever beat Clana, and others still are convinced that Clois is IT.


And I certainly don't think Lois is the combination of Lana and Chloe. They are each individual on this show with very distinct differences.

I think Minela was commenting that AlMiles admitted that they intentionally created Chloe as an amalgam of Lois and Lana from the comics..

I get that people see Chloe as something new and different, but I don't see much in her that's at ALL new or unique. Oddly less as time goes on, actually. So she's not my cup of tea. I used to love her, but I feel like she's become flat and boring over the seasons, lacking in passion and personality and composed of little more than what was given to her from other characters as they left the series (the rest being the need for exposition and a touch of Mary Suedom). It's only recently that I've begun to have hope that she'll even be memorable in the least to me again.

*shrugs* Some people love her. Some people can't stand her. I'm someone who has veered away from the former the former though I haven't yet hit the latter. I know not everyone sees Chloe in the last few seasons as the forgettable yawnfest I've found her to be, nor do they see the Chlark relationship as mutually destructive as I do. And that's, as you say, fine. I don't need to know why people don't see Chloe as I do to get that they don't. And, frankly, if not everyone loves Clois as I do, I'm fine with that. If everyone played in their respective sandboxes, the world would be a happier place. It's when someone from another camp tries to talk about how horrible the other camps are that I get into the fray and I'm driven to respond. If that never happened, I would probably rarely even bother to mention Clana or Chlark, let alone point out the flaws as I see them in those ships.

As you say, to each their own. As fans, I think the only thing we can really do is love the parts of the show that we love, tolerate the parts of the show we love less, and try to ignore the parts of the show we loathe. :lol: With varying degrees of success.

[Dustmite]

Chloe. I could give my reasons and people could disagree with them and I would disagree with them and we would all go away with our opinions unchanged so I'm just going to leave it at that.

[Autumn]

A lot of what people who hate Lois say about her I find inaccurate and not supported by the show, just as I find what people who hate Chloe say about her is also inaccurate and not supported by the show.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I find most of the complaints, on either side, have little merit. Some of them do, but most of them are caused by vitriol brought on by fighting between shippers. From what 'I've' seen at least.

Not all of it, so before someone gets incensed and throws a 'how dare you' at me, I will say some complaints DO have merit. But sadly a lot of that gets lost when people feel like they have to condescend (Clark turned Chloe down again LOL) to others and character bash (Lois slept her way into her job) to get their point across. And I've seen BOTH Chlarkers and Cloisers be that way, so no one should be acting high and mighty about their shipper group.

Ah well, enough of that. This is a board about SMALLVILLE, not its fan groups.

Now if they decide to explore romantic Chlark, I'll deal with that too. 'I' think the time for that is gone. Certainly I understand that a lot of Chlarkers feel like they've been waiting for some kind of payoff for quite awhile. But there was something between them in 'Plastique' I don't deny what is on the screen, but I think SOME Chlark fans want it to be more than what it was, and I think SOME non-Chlark fans want it to be less than what it was. Me? I don't really know what it was, the show left it ambiguous. So I'm just going to do the only thing I can do. Watch the show. Especially when my hearing-impaired subtitles added in the line 'we're family' to Clark's 'we're more than friends'


I'm also curious to see how Chlark may have turned out in a romance. The last time was WAY back when they were Freshman. Lots of things have changed. It'd be interesting, but being that this is Smallville, I'd doubt it'd last and then their close friendship probably wouldn't be as close.

I agree that some people blow things out of proportion with the characters and say things that are just over the top and contradictory. IE: They hate Chloe for acting interested in Davis while she's engaged, yet have no problem with Clark and Lana practically having an affair while she's married. So it seems there is some picking and choosing about what offends and what doesn't based on which ship you're rooting for.

That said, it is a show, and everyone can hate a character if they want to. I don't like Lois that much. I didn't mind her in the first four episodes she was in. And in fact, I wouldn't mind her as much (I'd still have some gripes like how she's exploited as a sex object constantly and how she is handed everything on a silver platter) if she wasn't' the girl who was going to end up with Clark. I would see her more as comic relief than as the leading lady. But because I know where she's supposed to end up, and because I see how she's being portrayed, I don't like her. Also, I don't like the constant in your face reminders that she is Lois Lane. We get it. We don't need to be reminded every minute.

Also, I personally think it is a fair argument to dislike a character like Lois because she slept with her boss. I agree some people argue condescendingly and that I don't like. But I think people can say I don't like something and here's why and speak objectively about it. Some people don't like Chloe because they feel she does everything for Clark, others might not like Lana because they feel she holds Clark back. And then some people might not like Lois because they feel she gets things like the DP job too easily.

I might agree with some of these statements, and I might not. But the point is, is that people's feelings in these respects are valid. But again, not everyone is going to agree. But I don't think we should have to pretend to love a character we actually don't really like because other people might misinterpret you as attacking their opinions, when really you are just stating your own. I think people can agree to disagree respectfully.

But really, every show is going to have its fan groups on any website for a tv show. It can't really be avoided. The problem comes when people start creating too much division between different groups.

I have to disagree about the time for Chlark being gone. It's never really happened. And with all of the build up that would be a huge cop out on their parts. And closed-captioning doesn't mean all that much. Since it's added afterwards. Besides, on my tv, the closed-captioning didn't say that. And even if Clark did call her family. I would argue to say that your girlfriend, boyfriend, husband, wife, best friend can oftentimes be your family.

I personally think that if Chloe and Clark have a full out romance, they are so connected that it would be contrived no matter what they did to get them to break up. Kind of like the silly break up of Angela and Hodgins on Bones. I think that's why they haven't done Chlark yet. Because the writers are afraid that it would actually work. And it would be hard to end it, as he's supposed to end up with "Lois."

[DontCha]

I think he should definately choose Chloe! She is always such an amazing and loyal person to him and they care so much about each other. They always look way more then friends! Plus Chloe deserves some happiness with Clark after everything!

I like Clark and Lois as friends but thats as far as I think they should go. They look more brother and sister then a couple.


you really saw it as that?

Brother and sister vibe is an easier way to describe the oh so awkward relationship where you tease the one you secretly like in order to never let them see how you feel.

Brothers dont smile and look in awe when their sister kisses them..sisters dont give googly eyes to their brother.

that is extremely gross

[Autumn]

Oh my GOD you people. I can't even believe you're posting this poll. Clark chooses Lois and that's all there is to it. Get over it. Stop holding your breath waiting for "Chlark" to happen because it won't.

Seriously, people should relax and let people like what they like. They shouldn't tell people to get over it because he chooses Lois. That's the point of this poll. Some people thinks he should choose Chloe. Including myself. I really don't care that he's supposed to choose Lois. I like Chloe better. So if that offends some people, oh well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kalista]

I personally think that if Chloe and Clark have a full out romance, they are so connected that it would be contrived no matter what they did to get them to break up.

Yeah, nothing would break them up once they cross the line into a full blown romance.

[Jade4813]

Seriously, people should relax and let people like what they like.

I actually agree.

Some people think that Chloe and Clark would be the best ever together, and nothing would break them up if they went there. Other people can't help but think "Except for the fact he's put her second if not last for years, so why would he change now?"

Other people will think that Lois and Clark will be the best ever together, and there's absolutely nothing that could ever get in the way of that. Other people would probably say, "Except that he and Chloe are so close, how could Lois get in the way of that?"

In the end, your enjoyment of your own ship shouldn't be dependent on whether other people agree with you about how fantastic your ship is. And what do you (general you, not specific you) care if everyone in the KSite world loves your ship the way you do? It won't change whether your ship will or will not play out on screen, and it shouldn't change how you feel about it when it does or doesn't.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

and used more as a sex object and comic relief, which I'm surprised more Lois fans don't get annoyed about.

The "sex object" and "comic relief" all comes down to a matter of opinion.

For some fans the maid, the bossiness, the bad spelling, the dual identity realtionships (foreshadowing much?) are excusable, simply because they're characteristsics of the character that have been around a long time. Even before Durance's Lois.

Some fans just prefer tradition over non mytho elements.

[LovelyLoisLane]

I LIKE Lois' bossiness, I LIKE her undercover costumes, I LIKE that she's bossy. That draws me to her. There are a great many people who disagree with me, but while I respect that I don't particularly care if they disagree with me because it won't change what I like. I like SV's Lois, I'm not a Cloiser, I'm not a Chlarker, I AM a Lolliepopper and that's all there is it to it. End of story. I have met a few people that assume that because they like it, everyone else must like it as well. That's very aggravating, so I'll never pretend that no one can dislike Lois simply because I happen to love her. I'll completely pitch a fit, however, if someone says something like 'everyone hates EDLois' because that is %100 false. People shouldn't be lumped together by what they like anyway. There isn't a hive mentality at work. I'm a huge Lois fan, but there are Lois fans that I don't get along with. I despise the "theory" but there are theorists that I like a lot.

However in these little shipper arguments that occur all over the place, I will put in my perspective.

Which is thus . . . I don't see romantic Chlark working out well if they go that route.
I think that to have full on romance between Clark and Lois would make them less enjoyable to watch, and the timing feels off to me at any rate.

So to answer a question based on Plastique, since this thread IS in the episode forum, would require me to answer dishonestly, because I don't have an opinion in that regard at this time, and certainly not just based of this episode. I would like to have Clois be the endgame of the offset future, but I don't really want to see that on the show. I like it staying in the future. So I don't think that means that I think Clark should be with Lois, because as for SV, I don't want him to.

I don't always get what I want however, and I'm entirely capable of dealing with that. I dealt with a great many years of Clana, and I HATED Clana. I like Lois and Chloe a great deal more as seperate characters, so it won't be nearly so hard to deal with it. In either case. And Clark is fracking awesome this season so far and I really enjoy his screentime, so won't be hard from that side either.

I feel a great sense of relaxation in regards to Smallville, and wether Clark gets with Lois this season, gets with Chloe this season, gets with Tess this season, or whoever, I'm fine with that. Not exactly tuning in for the romance over here anyway. My Lolliepop is done and over with, so I don't have anything to ship. Which is wonderfully liberating as a viewer.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

Great post! :)

[dimeo782002]

Oh my GOD you people. I can't even believe you're posting this poll. Clark chooses Lois and that's all there is to it. Get over it. Stop holding your breath waiting for "Chlark" to happen because it won't.

it is posts like this that have made me aggresive and im trying hard not to stoop to the same level but thats some of us have had arguments because people have made the same comments to me and caused me to have rants and such. if we could all just say well thats right for you but not for me then we could all get along but when people act like this it is wrong . so what if people ship a mythos ship or a non cannon ship , look it's like this you can't help who you ship no more than who you can pick who you fall in love with. i have at times made clois comments and that was wrong of me but only because of people like this . but i say this im sorry and have been changing my ways one bad apple should not cause me to stereotype the whole bunch. so lets all be happy and love our ships yeah !:)

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I don't the polls mean much, as a lot of the people who root for Chloe don't come onto these types of websites. Polls can't really be relied on. There have been other polls where Chloe wins by miles, and others where Lana wins.

On a different note, I would gather to say that there are fans for all three couples. I hate shipper wars personally and think they are silly. Does that mean I don't dislike certain couples? No. Obviously, I don't really like Clana or Clois. But, I don't care if other people do. To each their own.

But I certainly don't think these polls represent the millions of people who watch the show. They just represent the people who come onto this website. And I'd gather to say that a lot of Chloe fans have become more and more frustrated each season, and many have started to tune out because they just couldn't take it anymore. In fact, I'm friends with a lot of these people. They tell me to let them know when Clark will finally wake up and get together with Chloe. Then they'll consider watching again.

I agree autumn what does this pole have to prove ? i mean this is only kryptonsite it's not a universal pole and i know alot of chlarkers that would not even dare come to this thread cause they don't feel there opinion is respected.

back on topic ;) i think clark should give chloe a chance and if it does not happen oh well it will not change the fact that i feel they should be together . out of lana ,lois and chloe i think chloe is best for him.

[ColdPlay3r]

every1 has opinions

i go with lois

im outta here

[LovelyLoisLane]

Great post! :)

Thank you! Lately I feel like my posts get largely ignored and all anyone ever reads out of them is "I don't like Chlark." "I don't like Clois." And they miss my point entirely.

So thank you again. :)

[Jade4813]

Aw, I always read your posts, LLL!

Admittedly, my brain is still stuck on the kinky nymphomaniac...but I do read your posts. I just sometimes...well, my brain just sort of...dwells. ;)

[ginnyfan]

For u Chlark fans out there: Clark! Stop the wedding engagment! You know you and Chloe are meant for each other! If you say you want Chloe, she'll throw that engagement ring out of the window without hesitated!!

For u Clois fans out there: Clark and Lois, aren't they destined to be together or what? Look how cute they are, and look at the chemistry they have. Their relatonship will definitely build up alot stronger as season goes on. Besides, who doesn't want Lois, ~ THAT GIRL IS SO DANGERIOUS, THAT GIRL IS A BAD GIRL~

If u were Clark, wut would u do :confused:

If I were Clark I'd brew a pot of tea and sit Chloe on the sofa. I'd remind her of my almost marriage to Lana and my elopement to Alicia. I'd remind her that marriage is forever and ask her if she's SURE that she's ready to make that kind of commitment to Jimmy. I guess I'd put on my Ma and Pa Kent hat and have a supportive conversation with her about Jimmy. I'd support her in her choice and give her a hug as Clark did in the episode.

I'd do this whether I loved Chloe romantically or not. After seven years of rejecting her for Lana... I'd be afraid that I was on the rebound. I'd want her to decide that she didn't love Jimmy without any selfish incentive on my part.

I honestly wouldn't see how Lois figured into things. Just the thought of asking Lois out of a date produces FEAR and PANIC. She's so bossy and rude and sexy... whoops I mean annoying. No... Date Lois Lane? LOL! Never. Big Dumb Aliens would fly before I would date Lois Lane. *chuckle*

*Clark thinks of "Exposed"*

*clears throat*

*Clark thinks of "Hydro"*

*gulp*

*Clark thinks of "Crimson"*

*adjusts collar*

Me as Clark: What was the question again?

;)

[ShelbyKent]

Honestly? I'd rather he choose his tights over a relationship.

Destiny before booty.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

This will be my favorite quote on this board for a long time to come :lol:

[Ayanne]

On Smallville? Chloe Sullivan.

7 years of "Unresolved sexual tension" deserves some major payoff!! :D



personally think that if Chloe and Clark have a full out romance, they are so connected that it would be contrived no matter what they did to get them to break up

Right now, it's beyond contrived keeping them apart, they deserve that chance, Clark is 21, Chloe is 21, not 35. Clark had other loves than Lana & Lois.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

This will be my favorite quote on this board for a long time to come :lol:

Thanks. It's my favorite line when discussing ships.

[Ayanne]

Chloe. I could give my reasons and people could disagree with them and I would disagree with them and we would all go away with our opinions unchanged so I'm just going to leave it at that.

I've got Seven years of established reasons, my friend. All Smallville canon & not a single lightswitch. :D

[Jaderoyale]

Oh god.
I knew arguments would start taking place :\
This is really ridiculous now.
Why can we not simply, state our opinion, and then fly away (haha, pun intended) without causing an argument/or someone replying disagreeing?
Gosh. We all have our opinions.
I may be a Cloiser, but i know that Chlark is a romantic ship, even though i don't personally ship it, and i have no problem with it.

I do however have a problem with the following; people claiming that 70 years of comic history will be rewritten. Yes i know, the whole Clana piffle was drawn out for 7 seasons, and 7 years of Clarks life; but hello AlMiles. The Clana lovers. The ones who gave us the horrifying Lexana.
But in my eyes, why on earth, would PS3 (and we love them, they're making the show so good right now) completely change 70 years of history? It'd cause a massive uproar. And not just for the Clois shippers, but also the Superman fans. Because even though they personally don't ship a relationship, they know how it ends.

I have no problem, with some sort of romantic Chlark happening, because we know, it won't last for ever. Its Lois.
And if Chlark does happen, please any Chlarkers - and i mean this nicely, don't take it the wrong way - don't start posts saying "i told you so" etc, when the majority of people i know, have no problem. And i even agree with most of you on most cases, because there are some of you who state your opinion without getting into an arguement, and i respect that.

Okay.
I'm done now.
Anyone who wants to disagree with me, feel free. Because in all honesty, someones going to. And probably going to be nasty to me about expressing my opinion. Because it always happens at the end of the day :)
I'm just sad that this show, which is getting better imo, is being ruined by things as pety as "ships". Meh.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

I've got Seven years of established reasons, my friend.

And that's what compared to 70?

[Ayanne]

And that's what compared to 70?

I'm sorry, but where exactly are there 70 years of 21 year old Clark with EDLo?

Smallville has it's *own* canon, an established 7 years of it... This is NOT the comics, & btw.. Superman had never died before in the comics, until it changed with DoomsDay.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

So Clark and Lex being enemies and Clark and Lois working at the DP is no way in sync with comic canon?

[Ayanne]

So Clark and Lex being enemies and Clark and Lois working at the DP is no way in sync with comic canon?

Things change, as validated by the Death of Superman via DoomsDay which had NEVER taken place before in the Comic Mythos before.

Clark Kent on Smallville is 21 years old & they have repeatedly changed aspects of the comic canon. Clark & Chloe are certainly one of the best changes!! :)

[SteveS]

You see, but that negates the fact that there are people who watch the show, that don't care about the comics and how they end up (as it stands right now anyway). There are people who watch Smallville for Smallville's sake, not for Superman's.

And the fact that everything is already written before takes away some freedom for originality and for who has the best chemistry.

It doesn't matter who he ends up with per se, it matters who you individually think he should end up with. So to say that it shouldn't be a question isn't really fair because everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

In my personal opinion, Chloe is better suited for Clark. And the only version I've liked of Lois Lane in any incarnation is Margot Kidder. She's just a character I don't usually care for. And ED's Lois is my least favorite of them all. So, in that sense, I think it's a fair question. Because I would love to see a Superman movie, where Clark ends up with someone other than Lois. And yes, I do know that's blasphemous. But I don't really care. :)

Oh, and by the way, maybe in the comics at this point, Clark is married to Lois. But as far as I've seen. The Superman comics haven't come to an end. Some of the writers still think Clark should wake up and say it was all a dream. And if they ever introduce Chloe into the comics, I know who I'll be rooting for. I mean, Gwen Stacey used to be the main love interest for Spiderman. But then they killed her off and made Mary Jane the main love interest. So.......if they've done it before in the comics. Why not again? Did anyone else enjoy the spoiler moment in the Batman movie with the girl? I think if you've seen it you'll know what I mean.

I like your thinking even about and including Margot Kidder and this version of lois on Smallville.

I have seen comics in the past, but other than momentary dabbling, haven't perused current issues as what I have read in posts and visiting one comics website, it appears to me that comic artists have given their Lois a number of unlovable qualities. Superman doesn't need that.

The concept of 'soulmates' is a fantasy that I don't subscribe to, they will become divorced-mates in probably over 50% of the marriages in the future.

So, like you, the name Lois Lane is important in comicdom but is very much secondary to Superman in my view. In that case, it makes it easy choosing to me between Chloe and Smallville's version of lois and it is the latter that would be easy for me to reject, how much more like for my super-man in-the-making.

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"But Smallville is not over. How many books and movies take the guy forever to have the epiphany about who it is he really loves? What about "Some kind of Wonderful?" "Wives and Daughters?" "Definitely Maybe?" I mean the list could go on and on.

And I certainly don't think Lois is the combination of Lana and Chloe. They are each individual on this show with very distinct differences.

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It's not about Clark seeing her in the French Maid outfit (although he has seen her in some other ones like the stripper outfit). It's the fact that the show uses her as a hot body. Lois uses her body to get what she wants. This is one reason why I don't really like her with Clark.

The French Maid outfit was absurd. Who would actually go undercover dressed like that? Come on. Realistically, the outfit would have been a little longer.

And this is Smallville, not the comics. That said, I'm familiar with Lana in the comics, and while there are a few similarities, I believe they are completely different. And I think that it would be silly to say that Clark does not have mutual feelings for Chloe, because she's like Lana in the comics and he didn't have feelings for her that way. I mean you could clearly show the points in this show where Clark has feelings for Chloe. You could say the same for Lana and Lois. I just prefer Chloe. Others will prefer Lana or Lois.

And I agree with you on how they portray Lois on Smallville.She does have a lot of defenses. But I think she is also very selfish and used more as a sex object and comic relief, which I'm surprised more Lois fans don't get annoyed about. They use some techniques on this show that I find quite odd. Jimmy and Lois are oftentimes written in as the comedic duo used in Greek plays. These character archetypes are found in many films today, but not usually in a leading lady.

Well anyway, it's just a preference on my side. I don't like how she is portrayed on this show, and honestly I've grown tired of the Lois Lane character. I mean in the new Superman movie, her character just fell flat. And in Smallville, I think she gets handed everything on a silver platter because it's her "destiny" and that grates personally. But others might feel differently. And that's okay with me.[/QUOTE]"

Excellent, rock on!:)

[DontCha]

Lois wins

[Alexander III]

Do ppl hate me for creating this thread :confused:

[individuall]

^No, but you did kinda open a can worms there, dear;):lol:

[Alexander III]

Maybe next time I'll layoff the Chloe vs. Lois and just make Shelby vs. Mr. Muggle thread then.

[individuall]

Maybe next time I'll layoff the Chloe vs. Lois and just make Shelby vs. Mr. Muggle thread then.

:lol: Sounds like a plan!

[Alexander III]

Btw nice avator u got there, I wish I was Clark and...ya...

[SueB]

But I think she is also very selfish and used more as a sex object and comic relief

Apparently it's ICONIC! and therefore okay. It's unbelievable to me that people think she's someone to admire.

[individuall]

Btw nice avator u got there, I wish I was Clark and...ya...

Thanks! :D

[Jade4813]

Apparently it's ICONIC! and therefore okay. It's unbelievable to me that people think she's someone to admire.

As opposed to someone who's given up her dreams, her personality, her personal life, etc. for someone - and arguably on the theory that she loves him so much (which makes it worse, even, as Clark clearly doesn't return half that level of sentiment)?

Ummm...yeah...I think I'm falling over myself to find that admirable. :rolleyes:

[harryandginnyfanatic]

Yeah. At least Lois is her own woman.

She's not constrained by the BDA or his secret.

[Dustmite]

Do ppl hate me for creating this thread :confused:

No but this is an old age argument (well 4 years old :p) and most of the time it doesn't even require a special thread dedicated to it for it to break out. It leaks into a hell of a lot of threads and having one with this title is just asking for trouble ;)

[Storm45]

Good lord. What's the point? Chlarkers will choose Chloe, Cloisers will choose Lois.

No amount of insults and petty comments about Chloe and Lois will change that. Both ships are legit.

For all I care, Clark can choose Lois because it's... Iconic! and it's part of canon for... 70 years! So it seems logical.

Clark can also choose Chloe because its Smallville where we had Lexana (ugh), Chimmy and all kind of stuff that ditched the ... 70 years! canon. So why not Chlark whose close relationshop has been built for 7 years within Smallville. It wouldn't be a stretch, IMO.

Smallville is supposed to be just a part of Clark's life. He can have different girlfriends .

Finally who he choose shouldn't be just about the number of years that a ship existed in and out of the series. But his relationships with each persons in the series.

[SueB]

As opposed to someone who's given up her dreams, her personality, her personal life, etc. for someone

No, Chloe is definately no longer the strong independent woman she used to be. Initially you could justify it because Clark's destiny and need for support (especially after Pete & Pa Kent were gone) made him a "special needs" kind of friend. Chloe stood up for herself in Cure and Persona when it came to setting a few boundaries for her time but mostly in S6 & S7, she clearly placed Clark's needs over her own career and issues. That was poorly handled by the writers IMO.


and arguably on the theory that she loves him so much

I would debate the motivation. If she loved him so much and was so desperate to abandon her needs for that love, she wouldn't have brushed off the opening he provided in Zod. I think her motivation included genuine love but not in the hopes of getting anything in return --- I think she firmly abandoned that after S5, and definately after S6. No, I think her rationale is more along the lines that helping Clark is helping him to save the planet. She is usually dropping what's she's doing because he's after some issue --- and on several ocaissions it was a threat to the planet not just Clark's secret. He had a higher calling, and unlike Lois in Siren, she was perfectly prepared to play second banana to that higher calling. Now, to me, setting aside your own goals to support a higher issue (save the BDA, save the planet) is actually noble and unselfish. It clearly is not something that everyone's ego can handle but it didn't seem to bother Chloe.


(which makes it worse, even, as Clark clearly doesn't return half that level of sentiment)?

I think Chloe has a desperate need to be needed and Clark was a massive enabler for this need. He didn't string her along from a romantic perspective but he certainly kept her in his orbit. In Cure ("Let me go"), in Siren ("NOT Chloe") --- these were proactive moments on Clark's part. In fact, with the exception of checking in on him in Bizarro (after losing Lana, that was natural), covering the Rachel Davenport story in Action, providing requested data in Gemini, and investigating Bizarro Clark behavior in Persona --- almost ALL Chlark interaction was up until Descent Clark initiated and on Chloe's turf (Talon, DP, and later ISIS). Once KK was out for 5 episodes, they brought Chloe out to the farm more but I think that had to do more with absent actors than any indication that Chloe was trying to seek out Clark. My point? Although there is no romantic overture from Clark, in S7 he seemed to need Chloe a hellavu lot more than she needed him. So while the "love" sentiment was different, I think Clark more than compensated in the strong emotions arena with his "need" behavior. But Chloe knew this and let him get away with too much. Really, he should have taken some of his emotional needs to Lana and he didn't. She fed off his need for her and that didn't do him any favors nor her (as in it was a barrier to her relationship with her significant other ... even if he's a loser of a boyfriend, Chloe was ignoble in the way she dropped Jimmy like a hot potato when Clark was in need).


But.. to your point. Is needing to be needed a good quality to be admired? Not particularly. It's a fairly common quality but not "admirable" in and of itself. Chloe allowing her own life to be disrupted (work and personal) because Clark needed her so badly was less than admirable. The fine line is when was she supporting the needs of the greater good and when was she just enabling Clark to lean on her because it felt good to be needed. There were instances of both is where I come out.

So... bottom line... is Chloe admirable? Well, certainly Clark thinks so and has expressed it on numerous ocassions. She's aparently the smartest person he knows ("Kara") and cares about people more than anyone else he knows (some S5 or 6 episode... can't remember the one). To me, her willingness to put the needs of the planet (again- "save the BDA, save the planet") over her own ego is pretty admirable but her letting him use her as an emotional crutch often slipped over the boundary of acceptable.


And having said all this... I still find nothing admirable about Lois except for her fierce loyalty to family over common sense from time to time. That took a hit with "Absolutely" but recovered nicely in Odyssey.

[amberdawn]

Oh god.
I knew arguments would start taking place :\
This is really ridiculous now.
Why can we not simply, state our opinion, and then fly away (haha, pun intended) without causing an argument/or someone replying disagreeing?
Gosh. We all have our opinions.
I may be a Cloiser, but i know that Chlark is a romantic ship, even though i don't personally ship it, and i have no problem with it.


I completely agree.

Seriously, NO ONE'S MIND IS GOING TO BE CHANGED. I don't understand why people have to use the "Lois is better for Clark.... no Chloe is!" argument. :rolleyes: People who like Lois are going to like Lois. And people who like Chloe are going to like Chloe. That's all there is to it.

[Jade4813]

was poorly handled by the writers IMO.

:lol: And that right there pretty much sums it up for me. Thank you for pointing out the glaringly obvious.

It seems like for some, when Chloe is written in a way they don't like, it's bad writing.
When Lois is written in a way they don't like (let's say the...oh...let's go with the "Absolutely" that was one and only time I can think of that one could argue Lois wasn't absolutely 100% in Chloe's corner)...she's a terrible character, intentionally written horribly, blah blah blah blah blah...And so on and so forth ad nauseum.

Chloe's done a lot of things I haven't liked. And yet I suspend the disbelief that the writers aren't trying to make me dislike her. They're just, you know, not doing a great job at their jobs every so often.

Lois is broken hearted over Ollie and turns to Grant. And that makes her just about the biggest ho ever.
Oh, but Chloe...She doesn't love Jimmy; she loves Clark! She always will! There's nobody she loves like him! She is just SETTLING with Jimmy...and flirting with Davis on the side...because she needs a little love and you gotta let her get what love she can, right? But that doesn't make her a bad person! Isn't it just romantic that she's looking at Clark like he's what she's always wanted...when she's...telling him...that she's engaged...to a guy I guess she just doesn't like that much. Oh, but she's not telling Jimmy that she needs time to figure things out for herself, at the very least. Instead, she's bending over backwards to convince Jimmy that she loves him.

She doesn't mean it; not really...not when she says he's perfect for her and he's who she wants. She's just conflicted. Actually, she's in deep denial. About her feelings for Clark. *sigh* Wow, if only those two crazy kids would take the chance and be honest with each other! (How they're to do that when they're in denial is someone else's problem. Whether or not they realize they love each other is subject to change from one scene to the next.

Yup. Absolutely. Makes perfect sense to me. Lois is heartbroken and has a short-term and ill-advised relationship with a guy she shouldn't. And that makes her the absolute worst character to ever have graced the television.

Chloe plunges into a relationship with Jimmy, which is fine - her attentions weren't otherwise engaged. Except...oh, I keep hearing that they are! That she really loves Clark and does more than she will ever love Jimmy! And she's so not into Jimmy that she's willing to flirt with Davis barely a WEEK after accepting Jimmy's proposal when he begged her desperately to ma...oh, wait. That's not what happened. He retracted it and she refused to let him. So she's flirting with another guy and apparently hung up on another guy STILL, a week after she insisted that Jimmy accept her acceptance of his proposal. And yet she's just about the best thing since sliced bread.

Look, you don't like Lois. Frankly, I don't care. But I do love the double-standards that go on. I admit I don't like this Chloe situation with Davis and Jimmy. I think Chloe was really into Davis, and I liked them together. But I think their interaction makes it pretty clear that this, at least, should be a huge neon sign over Chloe's head that maybe she shouldn't string Jimmy around if she doesn't like him that way.

I didn't like Grois. I attributed it to bad writing.

I don't like that they're having Chloe pant after Davis when she's engaged to Jimmy and - as I hear time and time again - golly she just loves Clark more than anything! But guess what? I'm willing to attribute that to bad writing too. Not that Chloe's decided to indulge her skanky side by stringing along more guys at once than even Lana ever managed to do.


Now, to me, setting aside your own goals to support a higher issue (save the BDA, save the planet) is actually noble and unselfish. It clearly is not something that everyone's ego can handle but it didn't seem to bother Chloe.

Uh huh. Sure. Right. Okay.

So...remind me again why it's so darn terrible that she got fired from the Daily Planet, again? Remind me why I should care and feel up in arms about it? Ohhhhh...that's right. Because it wasn't her choice to leave journalism, and by golly, she'd still be there working her way up to the top if she could! Except by your admission here, she's set aside her own goals to save the planet. Admirable, to be sure, but I must say I appreciate that you're admitting it was her choice to give up her career. That her being shown to the door ("Here's your hat; what's your hurry? And don't let the door hit ya in the rear on your way out!") wasn't this really tragic injustice done to her character. It was an absolutely logical conclusion to the series of events that began when Chloe "set[] aside her own goals to support" Clark.


Although there is no romantic overture from Clark, in S7 he seemed to need Chloe a hellavu lot more than she needed him. So while the "love" sentiment was different, I think Clark more than compensated in the strong emotions arena with his "need" behavior.

Um...he needed her to spoon feed her answers. But he didn't care about her enough to notice things like, say, the huge gash on her face. Or the fact that she told him repeatedly that she wasn't into ham. He had bigger problems - Generally, a four-letter word that started with L and ended with a. So he paid attention to her to the extent that she gave him what he "needed" as you say - and to which I agree, as I said above...he needed her to spoon feed him answers. Thank God Chloe's been the superhero of the story the last couple of seasons or the world would be long gone!

He paid attention to her to the extent that she gave him what he needed. And that's about as far as his attention span lasted with her.


But Chloe knew this and let him get away with too much. Really, he should have taken some of his emotional needs to Lana and he didn't. She fed off his need for her and that didn't do him any favors nor her (as in it was a barrier to her relationship with her significant other ... even if he's a loser of a boyfriend, Chloe was ignoble in the way she dropped Jimmy like a hot potato when Clark was in need).

Let me guess. Bad writing again?



But.. to your point. Is needing to be needed a good quality to be admired? Not particularly. It's a fairly common quality but not "admirable" in and of itself. Chloe allowing her own life to be disrupted (work and personal) because Clark needed her so badly was less than admirable. The fine line is when was she supporting the needs of the greater good and when was she just enabling Clark to lean on her because it felt good to be needed. There were instances of both is where I come out.

So... bottom line... is Chloe admirable? Well, certainly Clark thinks so and has expressed it on numerous ocassions.

He also thinks Lana's the greatest thing since sliced bread. I think we can agree that his judgment may not always be infallible. ;)


She's aparently the smartest person he knows ("Kara") and cares about people more than anyone else he knows (some S5 or 6 episode... can't remember the one). To me, her willingness to put the needs of the planet (again- "save the BDA, save the planet") over her own ego is pretty admirable but her letting him use her as an emotional crutch often slipped over the boundary of acceptable.

And having said all this... I still find nothing admirable about Lois except for her fierce loyalty to family over common sense from time to time. That took a hit with "Absolutely" but recovered nicely in Odyssey.

And you know what? That's fine.

Because having said all that, I still find Chloe far less admirable as a character than Lois. *shrugs* To each his own, though. I guess one man's favorite character is another fan's snoozefest.

[dimeo782002]

If i was clark i would take a little time for myself, all these women so many problems lol !
i think there are good quality'sin lois and chloe. chloe is very loyal when it comes to clark and can obviously keep his secret . they have a seasoned relationship cause they have known eachother for so long and the fact that she was his first kiss is nice because no matter what happens he will always remember her. even if chlark never ever happens which they said it won't it is impossible for clark to ever forget her and for me thats what matters.

lois i think can bring out a different side of him , she knows how to push his buttons , clark seems to find her amusing but yet he does care for her i see that and he certainly had no problem putting a corsage on her boob in the senior prom episode. i think he thinks lois is attractive. red k only takes away clarks inhibitions so when he said to his mom "i want to kiss lois " that was funny his face squished thats the kind of relationship they have. the kind that you say oh i can't stand him but yet may have some kind of connection to build on.

i think chloe and lois both have faults , lois has been given a slew of manly choices where even though chloe has been on the show longer has not had much man opportunities .i think in her relationship with jimmy he was her first boink and he actually gave her attention , the kind clark never did. she loves jimmy for loving her and excepting her for who she is . she loves clark for who he is , strong masculine and a do gooder which in a way so is jimmy lol ! he is a mess up but he has a good heart .

i thinks it's unfair to really say chloe is not worthy when she has been there for clark and i understand maybe some people see her as a doormat but don't friends be there for eachother ? if it really bothered chloe to be asked to be a sidekick or to do favors i think she would have said something and also, there have been more than a few episodes where chloe absolutely put her foot down and said clark my quota os full or imgoing through this or that or i can't tell you because of this ! that is sticking up for herself and not being a door mat. i think people are too concerned about clark going to chloe for help in the past , but if it really bothered her she would have said something . and i have to ask if it was lois then everyone would say oh it's mythos he is supposed to go to lois . all thgis thread comes down too is preference and opinion none of it is fact .

once again i must say if i was clark i would go for chloe first hands down :p
then if that faded i would go to lois .

whats gonna happen if lois dies before superman ? can he not love another ? actually i think he has been with lori lemaris and a mermaid and yes wonder women from the nether world . so see mythos does not even follow mythos ! confusing isn't it LOL !

good will and luck to everyone's ship may we all love who we love for whatever reason.
by the way lois was definetly hot as a stripper . i do like how she was there for clark when lana left her dumb video . i hope they build a more realistic friendship later that way if possible they can be imagined as a couple in off screenville doing it on the last season is too fast imo !

it will always be chlark for me in the smallville world !:D

[double L]

Choose for what? If you mean for romance, everybody in here knows the answer to that. Chloe, is just Clark's little friend, she will never be more than a friend.

[doodie8808]

i will always choose lois she sees him for who he is no matter what even on ked k she did not freak out she is awesome

[LoveHurts38]

Lois of course . Reasons , they are just meant to be the way they talk to each other reminds me of Booth and Bones of the love and hate relationship.

[dimeo782002]

I Thought was a place for everyone to equally share opinion ?

people need to stop arguing and stop telling people who they can like romatically as a ship . some like clois some like chloe there is no way to changes people's minds , so stop trying . come here state your opinion and go !

[LovelyLoisLane]

How about some people like LOIS and some people like Chloe, lol. You said Clois, but I think it was a typo.

Like I said before, and was summarily ignored except for a few people, I don't think anybody can decide who he WILL end up with by this episode and as for who he SHOULD end up with . . . that's not my chief concern on this show, and even if it was, it is a complicated question for me.

Nothing is black and white to me. They could end it ambiguous and maybe that'd be better. I don't know. I want Clark to be Superman, that's my chief concern for him and he's getting pretty close already.

[ginnyfan]

What would you do if you were Clark LLL?

[LovelyLoisLane]

What would you do if you were Clark LLL?

Too many virgin ears in here to answer that question. ;)

Let us say . . . I would take two different kinds of fruit and make a good salad.

[ginnyfan]

LOL! :rotfl:

[amberdawn]

there is no way to changes people's minds

This is exactly what I said. It's getting rediculous. Don't we already have enough threads to debate over this?

[dimeo782002]

This is exactly what I said. It's getting rediculous. Don't we already have enough threads to debate over this?


apparently not enough ? lol go figure .im okay as long as we all treat eachother right . it's been getting out of hand lately but i think it's gonna calm down a little...... maybe lol !:confused:

[LovelyLoisLane]

Which is why everyone should stop. I'm guilty of it too, I know. Even if I'm trying to defuse the situation it is STILL against board rules. Usually that gets overlooked when it happens briefly and isn't nasty.

But going on and on about it? They'll snag us all on a warning if not a banning or ten.
So . . . Triple L rule. No more negative talk about other peeps. No more snotty baiting comments on characters meant to cause negative talk. If not, you'll be forced into a Jello wrestiling match with me, and since there is not cheating allowed, I'll totally win. So how bout just some love, with cookies and/or booze for everyone. It's all I got in the house, sorry. :p Really looking forward to my paycheck on Friday. Money = Groceries.

I'd like to say that Clark should end up with Lois, because I can see how that would work out between them later. BUT I don't want that to really happen on the show. I mean all the Superman/Clois development similar to the DCU in one season? That's WAY too fast and I don't know if we'd have another season.

I don't mind the hints and some buildup I'm just not too keen on it getting past that.

Chloe is engaged and already has some weird attraction to Davis, okay so maybe it isn't that weird ;), and I don't think she'd need Clark vying for her bod or heart, or both :p, in addition. I know there are some that feel differently, but I don't share that different opinion. I have plenty of other reasons, but I'm tired. I work 4am to sometimes 2 pm, it is a LONG day and I haven't slept yet.

Don't think I don't have a third eye in the back of my head though, and it totally can float over to the computer, get on k-site and watch you. Anymore bickering and I'm serious about that Jello. :p Okay maybe not so serious, but this thread needed to be lightened up with something, my eccentricity might as well be it. ;)

[Smallville6]

Not blaming the OP, but I think what we really need to do is just stop it with these types of threads. Same thing was going on at the thread about a review for Plastique that only pointed out the bad things with Lois. All these things are just setting up wars, arguments and fights. And as much as we all want to defend our own ship, like you guys said earlier: we wont change anyone's mind.
I honestly like both Chlark and Clois. I just like Clois more. So I can see both sides of the fight. But I just really cant stand the bashing and thats what these types of threads lead to.

[LovelyLoisLane]

I honestly like both Chlark and Clois. I just like Clois more.

I don't like Clois more, though I DO like Lois more than Chloe, but I think I could accept Clois more than Chlark, I just don't want either as a solid romance this season, let alone thinking who Clark should wind up with.

[disciples of zod]

clois, definitely. it's DESTINY, man! DESTINY!

plus the chemistry is growing between them.

[LovelyLoisLane]

Now here's where I thought there was chemistry between both Clois and Chlark. I don't want any Cloisers to get mad at me, but it seemed there was better chemistry between Chlark for a lot of the episode, BUT the scene where Clark changes and the last Clois scene won out at #1 in chemistry department, for me anyway. That's not a fact so feel free to disagree.

[KryptonStones]

Not blaming the OP, but I think what we really need to do is just stop it with these types of threads. Same thing was going on at the thread about a review for Plastique that only pointed out the bad things with Lois. All these things are just setting up wars, arguments and fights. And as much as we all want to defend our own ship, like you guys said earlier: we wont change anyone's mind.
I honestly like both Chlark and Clois. I just like Clois more. So I can see both sides of the fight. But I just really cant stand the bashing and thats what these types of threads lead to.


I must be in the minority here, but I actually enjoy these Chloe vs. Lois threads. They offer what each side thinks about the other characters, and most of the time the people who are arguing about their favorite character do so in such a way that it makes me really think about the two and the type of character traits they have. No, I dont like mindless bashing, but there's nothing wong with arguing for your character if you're arguing intelligently with facts, character traits, and solid opinions.

[All about Clark]

I think what matters is that Clark has the hots for Lois, and he doesn't for Chloe. Enough said!

[LovelyLoisLane]

Well I think he HAS had the hots for Chloe before, and I don't know if he had the 'hots' per se for Lois in Plastique, though I certainly I'm not going to argue that he finds her attractive.

I don't think Clark had the hots for anybody in this episode, it was more seeing the difference in how he interacted with Lois, Chloe, and Tess.

[ginnyfan]

Clark was especially worried about the redhead he rescued. ;)

[Alexander III]

Clark was especially worried about the redhead he rescued. ;)

That redhead mmm so dead gorgeous~~~

[LaNaLoVeScLaRk]

i love how lois looked at clark after getting outta the phone booth too cute she wants him! Definitly Clois:rolleyes:

[Dor el]

Sounds like an awfully lot of wanting going on. Clark will want Lois; just not yet. Clark wants Chloe, but maybe not romantically. Chloe wants Jimmy, but less than Jimmy wants Chloe. Chloe wants Clark, but every breath she takes takes her further away from satisfying that want. Clark wants to face up to his new reality and put his old life behind him, but wants to cling to bits of his previous life; namely his friendship with Chloe. I think Clark is not into wanting romance right now. Romance has eluded him in the past in painful ways, and he just wants to get on with hid destiny.

I want to see Chloe and Clark get their feelings, however unequal, out in the open and discuss them. I want to see that closure. I want to see Clark finish college and develop a journalistic name for himself well before he and Lois become a couple. I want Jimmy to realize that he does not have the entirety of Chloe's heart and man up and tell Chloe. I want Chloe to be fair to Jimmy and not marry him on the rebound. She loves Jimmy, but not enough and isn't Jimmy single in the future? I want Lois to be a credible journalist. I want to see her earn her stripes so to speak. And I want more Clark/Lois banter. I love how she pecks away at him and he stands there and lets her do it to him. I love it when Clark gets a gracious jab at her on occasion and she doesn't seem to even realize he's done that. Kind of remind me of that southern way: You can tell a person to eat dirt and die, but if you add a "God bless her/him/you", it's OK.

[Yasise]

Sounds like an awfully lot of wanting going on. Clark will want Lois; just not yet. Clark wants Chloe, but maybe not romantically. Chloe wants Jimmy, but less than Jimmy wants Chloe. Chloe wants Clark, but every breath she takes takes her further away from satisfying that want. Clark wants to face up to his new reality and put his old life behind him, but wants to cling to bits of his previous life; namely his friendship with Chloe. I think Clark is not into wanting romance right now. Romance has eluded him in the past in painful ways, and he just wants to get on with hid destiny.

I want to see Chloe and Clark get their feelings, however unequal, out in the open and discuss them. I want to see that closure. I want to see Clark finish college and develop a journalistic name for himself well before he and Lois become a couple. I want Jimmy to realize that he does not have the entirety of Chloe's heart and man up and tell Chloe. I want Chloe to be fair to Jimmy and not marry him on the rebound. She loves Jimmy, but not enough and isn't Jimmy single in the future? I want Lois to be a credible journalist. I want to see her earn her stripes so to speak. And I want more Clark/Lois banter. I love how she pecks away at him and he stands there and lets her do it to him. I love it when Clark gets a gracious jab at her on occasion and she doesn't seem to even realize he's done that. Kind of remind me of that southern way: You can tell a person to eat dirt and die, but if you add a "God bless her/him/you", it's OK.

Dor el, I love your way of writing!!! It's amazing how you explain exactly what I am thinking, too :D

I guess, I don't have to say, that I totally agree with what you' ve said? ;)

[Jade4813]

I'd take one look at the shipper wars and move to Guam. ;)

[ginnyfan]

^LOL! Hey I'd tune in for Clark's adventures in Guam.

[dimeo782002]

okay everyone i posted part two of my chlark story it's under the same post

Too have and not too hold
&
Part two enter Brainiac
it's getting good i don't think you want to miss it and yes it is my second fan fiction. i have been writing like a mad women. here is the link if you areall interested and it is an adult fan fic. enjoy and please leave feed back.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=98236

[Bane]

If I were Clark....I'd be very indecisive. Both are witty, sexy, and smart. I'd most likely choose Chloe.

[ChaosSV]

Chloe..
yeah,i was dreaming about Chloe's engagement
Clark stop it and replacing Jimmy (yeah!)
i'm a Chlarker
yeah Clois is good,but i prefer Chloe than Lois

[oqllcksmallville]

lois ,
the glances & the banter .
love it .
point black ,
peroid .

[zorasuperman]

lois lane
no doubt about that
see wats in front of you u loser clark

[zorasuperman]

lois!

[jpfort1957]

Why can't he have both?

[SleepingBeauty]

Lois

Clark and Chloe are fine as friends more not.