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AndiGirl
09-25-2008, 07:07 PM
Just when I'm ready to let it go....they pull me back in! For the following reasons:
1) The way they were at the explosion....a complete outsider assumed they were together.
2) When Clark finds out chloe is engaged....he wasnt thrilled by any means
3) When chloe and clark talk.....clark said it all!! "We arent just friends" I'm sorry, but
even if you dont ship chlark....you can not say that scene was just two friends talking
Bottom line...I LOVED the chlark tonight!! It was too cute, and intense...and wonderful. I love that Clark is willing to put what he wants aside to make Chloe happy. It also speaks volumes that Chloe didnt want to tell Clark she was engaged because things would have to change between them!!
Chlark was amazing tonight. :o
thehenry89
09-25-2008, 07:09 PM
it was cute
dru-zod2501
09-25-2008, 07:10 PM
This is the harbinger of doom for all things Chlark!
We knew it was gonna happen, but Almighty they didn't have to twist the knife SOOO hard in us!! i
theotherJane
09-25-2008, 07:10 PM
Imo, they're stringing you along. And if you ask me, this episode was a setup for when the Fever letter resurfaces.
madcatlady
09-25-2008, 07:11 PM
This is the harbinger of doom for all things Chlark!
We knew it was gonna happen, but Almighty they didn't have to twist the knife SOOO hard in us!! i
That's exactly what I thought! Davis' spilling the engagement to Clark...I called it the Doom of Chlark.:D
AndiGirl
09-25-2008, 07:14 PM
Where are my chlarkers...I need some positivity! :lol:
Even if it is the end of chlark....it's definitely forshadowing Chimmy. Chloe and Clark arent just friends...and if she has those feelings, she has no business marrying Jimmy.
She didnt want to tell clark, because their relationship would have to change. If that isnt a red flag, I dont know what is!
Minela
09-25-2008, 07:16 PM
The Chlark was cute, but don't get your hopes up. When they were talking in the loft, I was thinking of you Chlarkers and I was saying to myself, "Oh, oh. The Chlarkers are gonna go ga ga for this." But IMO they didn't talk about love there. When Clark said they are more than friends. They are more than friends. They really depend on each other, and when she marries Jimmy she'll have to put her husband first. I don't think either of them are ready for that. I felt for them there. It's like, after so many years of being each other's sounding boards and secret keepers, she'll now have to let go and put her life first. And he knows that, he knows if she doesn't put her life first, she'll regret it in a major way later. So, I felt for both of them. They know things have to change, I just don't think they are ready just yet.
Minamostaza
09-25-2008, 07:16 PM
I'm here Andigirl!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm one of the Chlarkers too!!!!!!!!!! I'm in Peru and I can't watch the episode 'until it's on internet about 2 or 3 hours more.....but I read your posts of all of you and I wanna see so much those Chlark moments!!!!!!!! Can't wait anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Minela
09-25-2008, 07:17 PM
Where are my chlarkers...I need some positivity! :lol:
Even if it is the end of chlark....it's definitely forshadowing Chimmy. Chloe and Clark arent just friends...and if she has those feelings, she has no business marrying Jimmy.
She didnt want to tell clark, because their relationship would have to change. If that isnt a red flag, I dont know what is!
Hey, I agree with you. I just don't think both of Chloe and Clark's hesitation is about romantic feelings. I think they are both sad and scared knowing things will and have to change.
AndyBear1980
09-25-2008, 07:17 PM
Not gonna lie, their scenes were very good. I liked the "We aren't just friends" talk as well.
theotherJane
09-25-2008, 07:18 PM
The Chlark was cute, but don't get your hopes up. When they were talking in the loft, I was thinking of you Chlarkers and I was saying to myself, "Oh, oh. The Chlarkers are gonna go ga ga for this." But IMO they didn't talk about love there. When Clark said they are more than friends. They are more than friends. They really depend on each other, and when she marries Jimmy she'll have to put her husband first. I don't think either of them are ready for that. I felt for them there. It's like, after so many years of being each other's sounding boards and secret keepers, she'll now have to let go and put her life first. And he knows that, he knows if she doesn't put her life first, she'll regret it in a major way later. So, I felt for both of them. They know things have to change, I just don't think they are ready just yet.
My caption read "We're more than friends." and then "We're family." --> that last line was omitted, but it was in the script.
shy175223
09-25-2008, 07:19 PM
Just when I'm ready to let it go....they pull me back in! For the following reasons:
1) The way they were at the explosion....a complete outsider assumed they were together.
2) When Clark finds out chloe is engaged....he wasnt thrilled by any means
3) When chloe and clark talk.....clark said it all!! "We arent just friends" I'm sorry, but
even if you dont ship chlark....you can not say that scene was just two friends talking
Bottom line...I LOVED the chlark tonight!! It was too cute, and intense...and wonderful. I love that Clark is willing to put what he wants aside to make Chloe happy. It also speaks volumes that Chloe didnt want to tell Clark she was engaged because things would have to change between them!!
Chlark was amazing tonight. :o
yeah, right I think he was more stumped than brokenhearted.:rolleyes:
AndiGirl
09-25-2008, 07:19 PM
The Chlark was cute, but don't get your hopes up. When they were talking in the loft, I was thinking of you Chlarkers and I was saying to myself, "Oh, oh. The Chlarkers are gonna go ga ga for this." But IMO they didn't talk about love there. When Clark said they are more than friends. They are more than friends. They really depend on each other, and when she marries Jimmy she'll have to put her husband first. I don't think either of them are ready for that. I felt for them there. It's like, after so many years of being each other's sounding boards and secret keepers, she'll now have to let go and put her life first. And he knows that, he knows if she doesn't put her life first, she'll regret it in a major way later. So, I felt for both of them. They know things have to change, I just don't think they are ready just yet.
You are always my voice of reason! :p
It's true...I'm trying not to get my hopes up.....but Clark was not the least bit happy. I didnt hear a congratulations....anything. More of an interigation. I dont think chlark will happen this season...but it's nice to see clark realize how valuable chloe truly is.
I dont know how she can marry jimmy when the relationship she has with her "bestfriend" is so valuable she doesnt want to tell him she's getting married and lose that....:(
Oh well, if anything I'm basking in the amazing friendship of chlark!!
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Not gonna lie, their scenes were very good. I liked the "We aren't just friends" talk as well.
yay! :)
madcatlady
09-25-2008, 07:21 PM
I loved that Clark did some thinking on his own this time and didn't need Chloe for that, yet there's still room for Chloe in his life.
AndiGirl
09-25-2008, 07:22 PM
yeah, right I think he was more stumped than brokenhearted.:rolleyes:
Even when he gives her back her ring? Did you hear a "congratulations chloe" or a "I'm happy for you chloe." I heard...."when did this happen" and "why didnt you tell me."
I would agree....if a few hours later it wasnt the same deal.
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Hey, I agree with you. I just don't think both of Chloe and Clark's hesitation is about romantic feelings. I think they are both sad and scared knowing things will and have to change.
I agree, I think that could be the case. :). I'm just happy it was so obvious how much they mean to eachother.
shy175223
09-25-2008, 07:24 PM
Even when he gives her back her ring? Did you hear a "congratulations chloe" or a "I'm happy for you chloe." I heard...."when did this happen" and "why didnt you tell me."
I would agree....if a few hours later it wasnt the same deal.YES, hey if i had a best frined whom was getting married I would feel a little sad but not becuase he was marry someone else...
avisray1992
09-25-2008, 07:25 PM
Chlark was really present in this episode. Chlark rocks. :D TW and AM have good chemistry, and IMO there was definitely chemistry between them in their last talk at the Talon, and espicially when they hugged and there was a close-up of Clark's face. By his expression you could tell he was thinking: "Why the heck did I pine over Lana all these years?!" Lol
RedKRules
09-25-2008, 07:26 PM
What is Chlark?? I didnīt see any tonight really.
shy175223
09-25-2008, 07:27 PM
What is Chlark?? I didnīt see any tonight really.Clark and Chloe ship....
AndiGirl
09-25-2008, 07:27 PM
YES, hey if i had a best frined whom was getting married I would feel a little sad but not becuase he was marry someone else...
I'm honestly very curious....not trying to be mean or anything, I really just want to know. Why would you ever be sad if your best friend was getting married? :confused:
Poyntz
09-25-2008, 07:27 PM
the chlark was good tonight :) .. I Loved the save scene!!
Only scene i wasnt too happy about was at the begining when she is brushing off being a reporter. It just seemed like the writers are trying to "show the fans" that she wants to move on. But that seemed forced to me. Expecally since we who love chloe know that our chloe would never just give up on her dream job. The producers were just throwing it in to try and pacify us.
AndiGirl
09-25-2008, 07:28 PM
What is Chlark?? I didnīt see any tonight really.
Really Kelly???
Man...I felt it! I dont know if it was just friendship...or what. But they were intense tonight.
amberdawn
09-25-2008, 07:30 PM
I think it was their amazing friendship more than anything. I could see that Clark doesn't want to share her with a husband. I mean, she has been his rock for the last, geez, I don't know how many years.
shy175223
09-25-2008, 07:31 PM
I'm honestly very curious....not trying to be mean or anything, I really just want to know. Why would you ever be sad if your best friend was getting married? :confused:
Well like with Clark and Chloe, I know things would eventually change...between us in someway.
RedKRules
09-25-2008, 07:31 PM
Really Kelly???
Man...I felt it! I dont know if it was just friendship...or what. But they were intense tonight.
I was only being sarcastic :p :lol: yet it was good, but Chlavis was better !
AndiGirl
09-25-2008, 07:32 PM
I was only being sarcastic :p :lol: yet it was good, but Chlavis was better !
I will give you that, Chlavis was HOT! Woo...I need a fan! :rotfl:
RedKRules
09-25-2008, 07:33 PM
and I need some cubs of iceee!! :lol:
AndiGirl
09-25-2008, 07:34 PM
I think it was their amazing friendship more than anything. I could see that Clark doesn't want to share her with a husband. I mean, she has been his rock for the last, geez, I don't know how many years.
It could be.....
You know what I think I just realized....I dont really buy the whole "guy and girl being really good friends" thing. Maybe thats my problem? :lol:
Maybe it was just an intense friendship thing, but its just so strange to me that they could be that close...and not romantic.
I'm ok with chlark friendship...but they have to lose this tension. Clark doesnt want to let her go....at all.
shy175223
09-25-2008, 07:35 PM
in a friendship kind of way of coarse.
dru-zod2501
09-25-2008, 07:37 PM
I'm honestly very curious....not trying to be mean or anything, I really just want to know. Why would you ever be sad if your best friend was getting married? :confused:
If you have the same level of reliance like these two and seen so much of each other's souls it certainly feels like you're handing over a piece of yourself. I can relate
Minamostaza
09-25-2008, 07:38 PM
^ Agree about the tension parts. I never being in some kind of moments of tension with my best friend, who happens to be a boy, we are the same age and we are like brother and sister. If Clark and Chloe want just to be best friends they have to start pulling out the tension.....if they don't I might think they want more than "friendship"....why not best friends with benefits....jejejeje.
amberdawn
09-25-2008, 07:39 PM
You know what I think I just realized....I dont really buy the whole "guy and girl being really good friends" thing. Maybe thats my problem? :lol:
Could be. My best friend is a guy, so maybe that's why I see it differently.
Alexander III
09-25-2008, 07:41 PM
U know wut would be great 2nite, if the song "Goodbye To You" is displayed in Chlark's scene.
AndiGirl
09-25-2008, 07:43 PM
If you have the same level of reliance like these two and seen so much of each other's souls it certainly feels like you're handing over a piece of yourself. I can relate
I can understand that.....but I also think if you are really good friends their happiness should be more important. Which it was for clark...so I was proud of him. :)
Atomic girl
09-25-2008, 07:43 PM
I'm honestly very curious....not trying to be mean or anything, I really just want to know. Why would you ever be sad if your best friend was getting married? :confused:If your best friend was of the opposite sex, you might have harbored a bit of a hope that you would get together...plenty of movies to that affect over the last few years.....
Even if it's the traditional best friend (same sex), you know that the relationship will change and the spouse will now be the person they confide everything to, and travel with, goes to movies with, etc.
AndiGirl
09-25-2008, 07:44 PM
Could be. My best friend is a guy, so maybe that's why I see it differently.
Yea, maybe? I've discovered something about myself! :lol:
I have a lot of close guy friends...but nothing like chlark. Which is my issue with that relationship, I dont think it really exists anywhere else...when you get as close as those two, normally thats called dating. :p
But maybe I have some things to learn!!
Minamostaza
09-25-2008, 07:45 PM
^ The friendship between a guy and a girl is as normal as a guy-guy and a girl-girl friendship, my best friend is a guy, we are like brother and sister, we haven't ever being in a tension moment or heat moment or something else. I just think that when in a friendship of a guy and a girl are tension moments......that's not friendship my dear friend, nop!
AndiGirl
09-25-2008, 07:45 PM
If your best friend was of the opposite sex, you might have harbored a bit of a hope that you would get together...plenty of movies to that affect over the last few years.....
Even if it's the traditional best friend (same sex), you know that the relationship will change and the spouse will now be the person they confide everything to, and travel with, goes to movies with, etc.
I completely agree.
amberdawn
09-25-2008, 07:50 PM
There have been moments where I thought about what it would be like to be with my best friend romantically, but we both value our friendship too much I think.
shy175223
09-25-2008, 07:50 PM
^ The friendship between a guy and a girl is as normal as a guy-guy and a girl-girl friendship, my best friend is a guy, we are like brother and sister, we haven't ever being in a tension moment or heat moment or something else. I just think that when in a friendship of a guy and a girl are tension moments......that's not friendship my dear friend, nop!
Well, I doubt that guy-girl friendship with tension it can't be just about sexual tension moment.
Minamostaza
09-25-2008, 07:53 PM
^ But anyway they shouldn't be tension at all, There can be fights of course, but tension moments, or not being so happy to hear good news about your best friends is kind of sad, because they supposed to be best friends!
AndiGirl
09-25-2008, 07:54 PM
There have been moments where I thought about what it would be like to be with my best friend romantically, but we both value our friendship too much I think.
See...I think thats the issue for me. It seems like when you get that close to someone of the opposite sex...someone always wants the other. If not at first...as you begin to get closer you see things you didnt see before. I did have one guy friend like that...I thought we were friends, and he thought he would stay in the "friends zone" until I broke up with my boyfriend.
So I hope chlark have just mutually decided their friendship is too important to risk it...but then there will always be that attraction there. :\. Thats what I hate about the ship.
I'm totally fine with chlark friendship...just no sexual tension or anything. Like someone else said...the transcript or something said "we are more then friends...we're family." I wonder why they decided to leave out the family part? To get chlarkers going!! Which they did!
No more games....if they are just friends, then please...for the sake of my little chlarkie heart, leave it alone! :rotfl:
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^ But anyway they shouldn't be tension at all, There can be fights of course, but tension moments, or not being so happy to hear good news about your best friends is kind of sad, because they supposed to be best friends!
I agree, he can be sad that they will lose something special...but his happiness should over ride that. I didnt hear a "congratulations" anywhere in his speech. :(
shy175223
09-25-2008, 07:56 PM
no but he did say he only wanted her to be happy and thats kind of like the some thing.
AndiGirl
09-25-2008, 07:58 PM
no but he did say he only wanted her to be happy and thats kind of like the some thing.
Yea, I was still waiting for a congratulations...or I'm happy for you...something. :\
Saying you're happy for someone...and you just want them to be happy are two different things really....
shy175223
09-25-2008, 07:58 PM
^ But anyway they shouldn't be tension at all, There can be fights of course, but tension moments, or not being so happy to hear good news about your best friends is kind of sad, because they supposed to be best friends!yes, but as others had explain it could be about Clark not ready to let go his friendship with Chloe since they share so much.
Minamostaza
09-25-2008, 07:58 PM
^ I agree with you AndiGirl, after the part of "we are more than friends" there was supposed to be the part where maybe Clark says to Chloe "you are like a sister to me, or family" but he didn't. The writers really wanna break our Chlark heart. I was happy to hear that Clark will have some kind of feeling for Lois for the end or middle of this season, but again in this episode they gave us those Chlark moments in a tension way.
Wouldn't it'll be selfish to let go your best friend to be happy for once? I want Chlark friendship back, really. Hope the writers finally set up their heads about Chlark.
amberdawn
09-25-2008, 07:59 PM
Andi, I understand the frustration, once upon a time I was a Chlarker. ;) I never thought they would bring Lois on the show.
shy175223
09-25-2008, 07:59 PM
Yea, I was still waiting for a congratulations...or I'm happy for you...something. :\
Saying you're happy for someone...and you just want them to be happy are two different things really....
Well, he just might say it at the wedding or better yet in the fever letter episode.
AndiGirl
09-25-2008, 08:00 PM
^ I agree with you AndiGirl, after the part of "we are more than friends" there was supposed to be the part where maybe Clark says to Chloe "you are like a sister to me, or family" but he didn't. The writers really wanna break our Chlark heart. I was happy to hear that Clark will have some kind of feeling for Lois for the end or middle of this season, but again in this episode they gave us those Chlark moments in a tension way.
I know!! Just stop the tension....and I would be fine, must they re-brake my heart every chance they get? :(
Minamostaza
09-25-2008, 08:01 PM
^ My heart might break this season about Chlark too.
Meteror Freak
09-25-2008, 08:03 PM
I'm glad they addressed that their relationship would change once Chloe gets married. That was important to me that they say that cuz Chloe needs to put Jimmy ahead of Clark if she's going to marry him. This goes hand in hand with her, "what I used to want distracted me from what i had right in front of me" line from odyssey. However, I think that although Chloe is choosing Jimmy, that this episode set the stage for at least a LITTLE chlark action in later episodes.....yay!
RedKRules
09-25-2008, 08:03 PM
Iīve come to realize that they build Chlarkersīs hope, but just to watch it break!! and I really canīt stand that anymore.... so I wonīt believe in anything they say or try to show me anymore... there is no Chlark, it is just ship CHEAP propaganda to keep the Chlarkers hooked up! at least the ones that want to see them romantically ....
AndiGirl
09-25-2008, 08:06 PM
I'm glad they addressed that their relationship would change once Chloe gets married. That was important to me that they say that cuz Chloe needs to put Jimmy ahead of Clark if she's going to marry him. This goes hand in hand with her, "what I used to want distracted me from what i had right in front of me" line from odyssey. However, I think that although Chloe is choosing Jimmy, that this episode set the stage for at least a LITTLE chlark action in later episodes.....yay!
My question to them though is....can they really do it?? Can she put Jimmy before Clark. If not, they need to re-evaluate their relationship...
I agree Kelly...I'm done. I'm so sick of these moments making me squeal...just to realize it's another stupid ploy by the writers to keep me around. News flash writers...I'm a smallville fan, so you wont lose me viewing no matter what.....but if you keep this crap up, I may reconsider. :rolleyes:
RedKRules
09-25-2008, 08:09 PM
Iīve made out my mind .... I am done with it! anyway I donīt want to bother anyone with my Chlark frustation .... bye!
unex||den||adel
09-25-2008, 08:16 PM
chlark fan, dont loose hope... we always know wht chlark has is more thn frends, more thn wt couple wud do for each other...thts enuf for me. declaration is just a word, deep inside, we know how they feel for each other...
smallvillefreak24
09-25-2008, 08:24 PM
NO KIDDING i spend all this time getting over chlark and then they do this : CHLOE WANTED HIM TO SAY DON"T MARRY JIMMY she still loves him and will always love him
TWLOVER03
09-25-2008, 08:27 PM
I know tptb hate us. There's no other explaination :[
RedKRules
09-25-2008, 08:29 PM
and teasing us is their favorite game, believe me!
Kalista
09-25-2008, 08:29 PM
NO KIDDING i spend all this time getting over chlark and then they do this : CHLOE WANTED HIM TO SAY DON"T MARRY JIMMY she still loves him and will always love him
I saw that scene and I agree with you. Clark is not happy about the engagement but he is trying to put her "happiness" into consideration.
~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
09-25-2008, 08:35 PM
She didnt want to tell clark, because their relationship would have to change. If that isnt a red flag, I dont know what is!
She didn't tell Lois either unless I misunderstood, cause Clark asked Lois how she found out and Lois said "Chloe just called" so I guess that's a red flag too ;)
kal-el returns
09-25-2008, 08:35 PM
I don't know about everyone else, during the scene when Chloe finally reveals to Clark the engagement, Clark says "We're more than friends, Chloe" I had my closed captioning on and Clark was suppose to continue on to say "We're family," but there was no audio for that, so unless you had thecaptions on you wouldn't have seen this. Sorry to disappoint Chlark-ers out there, but that's never gonna happen. Clark considers Chloe family...only.
RedKRules
09-25-2008, 08:38 PM
I hope Doom kills him for being so clueless!!
Kalista
09-25-2008, 08:41 PM
I hope Doom kills him for being so clueless
It's okay. The last Chlark scene is significant.
RedKRules
09-25-2008, 08:46 PM
Thanks Kalista! I think that came out a little bit too strong ...but I totally meant it !!
Yes the last Chlark scene was significant .... but I fear it will be just another one ..... like Vessel *sigh*
MetropolisGirl4SV
09-25-2008, 08:52 PM
It could be.....
You know what I think I just realized....I dont really buy the whole "guy and girl being really good friends" thing. Maybe thats my problem? :lol:
Maybe it was just an intense friendship thing, but its just so strange to me that they could be that close...and not romantic.
I'm ok with chlark friendship...but they have to lose this tension. Clark doesnt want to let her go....at all.
Believe me a guy and a girl can be very close and not be romantic. For example, me and my best friend who is a guy are exactly like Clark and Chloe we always have each others back its crazy!!! And we have great chemistry but not romantic at all...believe me. We are more than friends were practically family. Its kind of weird tho...people at times do think were a couple. His girlfriend in the beginning got pissed that we hang out too much! His girlfriend is actually my best friend now and the three of us get along great together. It's actually really weird bcs the three of us all started watching SV together, it started in my dorm room especially after midterms we would download the latest episodes and watch *spooky* I wonder when I'll get my healing powers...that would be cool...oh wait I'm in the medical field...does this count:lol:
But we all know that three's company at times so I know when to step out...it's always proper not to trespass. ;)
amberdawn
09-25-2008, 08:55 PM
My best friend's girlfriends always get pissed at me too, because we have such a bond :lol:
Minamostaza
09-25-2008, 08:57 PM
^ It happened to me in the past too....
dimeo782002
09-25-2008, 09:05 PM
My caption read "We're more than friends." and then "We're family." --> that last line was omitted, but it was in the script.
well they obviously cut it from the scene . i use captions too but they cut it, you do not here clark say that, and if i don't here it don't count to me . i saw the writing but not voice saying .... therefore they cut it .:p
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I don't know about everyone else, during the scene when Chloe finally reveals to Clark the engagement, Clark says "We're more than friends, Chloe" I had my closed captioning on and Clark was suppose to continue on to say "We're family," but there was no audio for that, so unless you had thecaptions on you wouldn't have seen this. Sorry to disappoint Chlark-ers out there, but that's never gonna happen. Clark considers Chloe family...only.
im not saying chlark and chloe are gonna be together im not dumb , but i want you to explain to me why they cut that line from the dialouge . if they don't say it it don't matter anyway. i alwasy use captions on my tv , just a bad habit but i don't understand what everyone's point is. ok people he is gonna end up with lois so what ! why come and go after chlarkers because they are happy for the chlark they get im so tired of this !
SteveS
09-25-2008, 09:15 PM
Chlark was really present in this episode. Chlark rocks. :D TW and AM have good chemistry, and IMO there was definitely chemistry between them in their last talk at the Talon, and espicially when they hugged and there was a close-up of Clark's face. By his expression you could tell he was thinking: "Why the heck did I pine over Lana all these years?!" Lol
Yep, you got it right. While they try to buy our affection with contrived lois & ClarkMan, it is only with Chloe and ClarkMan that this show has any real poignancy. The embrace said tons in the expressions in their faces. Chloe might be moving on with a 3rd rate Jimmy, wussie that he is, but it is clear what their bond is and that is why she hesitated to tell Clark and why he was asking her why she had not told him.
So, Clark may feel some attraction to the Tess character, or she may become a nemesis and he and this lois can be written as cutesy, but in comparison, the latter two females and any relationship with them on Smallville is small-time and shallow.
(On the other hand, I did like the strong responses between Chloe and Davis and wondered how long until we see Jimmy whimpering again.)
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I saw that scene and I agree with you. Clark is not happy about the engagement but he is trying to put her "happiness" into consideration.
Correcto!
dimeo782002
09-25-2008, 09:22 PM
The Chlark was cute, but don't get your hopes up. When they were talking in the loft, I was thinking of you Chlarkers and I was saying to myself, "Oh, oh. The Chlarkers are gonna go ga ga for this." But IMO they didn't talk about love there. When Clark said they are more than friends. They are more than friends. They really depend on each other, and when she marries Jimmy she'll have to put her husband first. I don't think either of them are ready for that. I felt for them there. It's like, after so many years of being each other's sounding boards and secret keepers, she'll now have to let go and put her life first. And he knows that, he knows if she doesn't put her life first, she'll regret it in a major way later. So, I felt for both of them. They know things have to change, I just don't think they are ready just yet.
oh don't worry there are plenty of people here already to remind us that we have no right to ship chlark and that we are fan wankers and that we are delusional so don't worry i won't get my hopes up it's impossible to be positive with everyone coming to chlark threads just to spread that we are all of these things cause we ship someone not from the mythos. im not talking about you but people are saying were delusional well i think they are just seeing what they want ! clark cares for chloe wether these other people like it or not ! so why come and step on us does it may you all feel better ?there is a way to be constructive and objective without bashing people's preference.
this is not towards you minela you seem fair in your observation . im just so tired of the pettiness , i go to a chlark thread to celebrate my happiness of there friendship and i have to read all this irrational stuff from people that want to deny that clark has any feelings for chloe at all , now that is delusional ! and this bickering about the captions being on and clark says were more than friends were family... So what ???they cut the dialouge ! if they wanted us to hear it they would have had toms voice or had him come back and add it in later so im asking whats your point ? You just want to rub it in.... but why ? clois is obviously gonna happen so just leave us alone to what we have left while we still have it. Now my rant is finished !:lol:
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yeah, right I think he was more stumped than brokenhearted.:rolleyes:
thats a matter of peoples mental interpertation . i think he is a little hurt i can't say heart broken because there was not enough said to see where jis hurt was from but there was feeling , he does not want to lose his friend ! he did not want to lose her when they were young , because she was in love with him and he loved lana but now he may lose her anyway because chloe being married , jimmy would never understand so her getting married means alot of things to clark , wether its a little romance or even just friends is by poeple perspective i think. but i felt the love and the hurt for them both regardless.
AndiGirl
09-25-2008, 10:08 PM
She didn't tell Lois either unless I misunderstood, cause Clark asked Lois how she found out and Lois said "Chloe just called" so I guess that's a red flag too ;)
Exactly....you shouldnt be nervous to tell everyone in your life you are getting married if it's truly the right choice for you.
So...I just re-watched the episode, and I'm convinced the ending had meaning.
- If you watch the Chloe/Davis scene again...Davis says "If you have truly found real love, dont let it go." Then we get a shot of chloes face...and she doesnt look sure.
Maybe Jimmy isn't her "true love" after all?
- Then, the end scene with Chloe....it seems (now this could just be to me...but please, let me dream...thats why this is a CHLARK thread) Chloe doesnt want Clark to agree with her. When she says "I dont know if I'm ready for that just yet...are you?" She looks at clark thoughtfully...
And I honestly thought, for a split second...he was going to kiss her. The way he looked at her, was so intense! Then he says her happiness means the world to him...which makes her perk up, and finally the heart breaker...he says "I know you and jimmy will be very happy together."
You can tell from Chloes face....this isnt what she wanted to hear at all....and you can tell from his face, it's not what he wanted to say at all.
The whole point is, Clark knows he cant give chloe that "happy life" thats the reason he's letting Jimmy take the reins. He can offer her a stable life....where clark knows his is dangerous and uncertain. So....he thinks the best thing he can do is once again step aside.
What does all of this mean...I dont know, but that last scene...it was obvious Clark and Chloe werent happy.....and I dont think it was just because some things would be changing between the two.
amberdawn
09-25-2008, 10:23 PM
Maybe Jimmy isn't her "true love" after all?
Clark isn't either.
AndiGirl
09-25-2008, 10:26 PM
Clark isn't either.
I agree with you there...but Jimmy isnt, which is more important in my mind! :lol:
amberdawn
09-25-2008, 10:27 PM
:lol:
AChloeChick
09-25-2008, 10:33 PM
Okay, I'm going to let my wall down to say that Chlark was off-the-charts tonight!
Clark's immediate concern for Chloe (again, their hands all over each other).
Davis mistaking Clark for Chloe's fiance (hmm, I can't imagine why).
Team Chlark.
Clark rescuing Chloe (in slow mo, even better).
Clark's expression when he found of Chloe was engaged (although it wasn't shot directly as a triangle, it can be implied [Clark-Chloe-Davis]). His continued expression over it, even tossing the flowers at Lois. Then leaving immediately to talk to Chloe about it.
Clark wondering why Chloe hadn't said anything.
Chloe not wanting to say anything (I know when I got engaged, I wanted to tell the world).
Chloe saying she's not ready to give up her relationship with Clark, then fishing for Clark's reaction (it reminded me of Zod). Again, when I got engaged I was willing to give up most everything.
Clark's hesitancy on responding by telling her he'd never get in the way of her pursuing her happiness (TVG interview anyone?). I'm waiting for those feelings to 'creep in'.
The SWEET embrace (both of their expressions were very telling)!
Clark's quick defense about Chloe's engagement while talking to Lois about it (seems to be he didn't want to talk about it and dismissed it immediately).
Personally, I LOVE Chlark and they've given us some of the best Chlark in quite a while! I know I shouldn't let my guard down. BUT, I'm going to enjoy the ride while I can. I may be setting myself up for some major heartache, but I still know that Chlark is more than worth it!
So, there's NO reason for anyone to tell us that we're just dreaming and/or we're delusional . . . it's not going to happen . . . Clois is the future . . . blah, blah, blah. I'm a Chlarker and I WILL ship Chlark to the bitter end!
Bask in the beauty of Chlark!
AndiGirl
09-25-2008, 10:39 PM
Okay, I'm going to let my wall down to say that Chlark was off-the-charts tonight!
Clark's immediate concern for Chloe (again, their hands all over each other).
Davis mistaking Clark for Chloe's fiance (hmm, I can't imagine why).
Team Chlark.
Clark rescuing Chloe (in slow mo, even better).
Clark's expression when he found of Chloe was engaged (although it wasn't shot directly as a triangle, it can be implied [Clark-Chloe-Davis]). His continued expression over it, even tossing the flowers at Lois. Then leaving immediately to talk to Chloe about it.
Clark wondering why Chloe hadn't said anything.
Chloe not wanting to say anything (I know when I got engaged, I wanted to tell the world).
Chloe saying she's not ready to give up her relationship with Clark, then fishing for Clark's reaction (it reminded me of Zod). Again, when I got engaged I was willing to give up most everything.
Clark's hesitancy on responding by telling her he'd never get in the way of her pursuing her happiness (TVG interview anyone?). I'm waiting for those feelings to 'creep in'.
The SWEET embrace (both of their expressions were very telling)!
Clark's quick defense about Chloe's engagement while talking to Lois about it (seems to be he didn't want to talk about it and dismissed it immediately).
Personally, I LOVE Chlark and they've given us some of the best Chlark in quite a while! I know I shouldn't let my guard down. BUT, I'm going to enjoy the ride while I can. I may be setting myself up for some major heartache, but I still know that Chlark is more than worth it!
So, there's NO reason for anyone to tell us that we're just dreaming and/or we're delusional . . . it's not going to happen . . . Clois is the future . . . blah, blah, blah. I'm a Chlarker and I WILL ship Chlark to the bitter end!
Bask in the beauty of Chlark!
I wish I was as optomistic as you!!
I honestly dont think I wear Chlark blinders...as some would say. I see when Clois has their moments...Clana...everyone. I fully admitt in tonights episode when Lois falls into clark there is a moment...and when she winks at him.
So why is it if I truly feel there is something between these two people it's "Oh...you're crazy" or "she's wearing her chlark blinders" Granted...not everyone acts this way...but I agree, it is quite frustrating to be told what you think you saw is not real...and get over it when time and time again I have proven to look at things subjectively.
With that said...I think chlark will probably stay friends. As much as it kills me....I dont think its going to happen. Which is honestly ok with me as long as they clear the air. Tonight pissed me off. Once again...clear signs that there werent just friendship feelings lying there....and all I want is for that stuff to go away.
Ok TPTB...Chlark isnt happening, you've said time and time again....so why the hell do you incist on torturing me? Why cant you make them platonic....why must clark grab chloe all of the time, why must they gaze into eachothers eyes a second too long....why does it always come back to "chlark" in every single relationship chloe has tried to be in?
I will stop shipping chlark once the writers stop giving me a reason to hang on. :)
Khyla
09-25-2008, 10:51 PM
Exactly....you shouldnt be nervous to tell everyone in your life you are getting married if it's truly the right choice for you.
So...I just re-watched the episode, and I'm convinced the ending had meaning.
- If you watch the Chloe/Davis scene again...Davis says "If you have truly found real love, dont let it go." Then we get a shot of chloes face...and she doesnt look sure.
Maybe Jimmy isn't her "true love" after all?
- Then, the end scene with Chloe....it seems (now this could just be to me...but please, let me dream...thats why this is a CHLARK thread) Chloe doesnt want Clark to agree with her. When she says "I dont know if I'm ready for that just yet...are you?" She looks at clark thoughtfully...
And I honestly thought, for a split second...he was going to kiss her. The way he looked at her, was so intense! Then he says her happiness means the world to him...which makes her perk up, and finally the heart breaker...he says "I know you and jimmy will be very happy together."
You can tell from Chloes face....this isnt what she wanted to hear at all....and you can tell from his face, it's not what he wanted to say at all.
The whole point is, Clark knows he cant give chloe that "happy life" thats the reason he's letting Jimmy take the reins. He can offer her a stable life....where clark knows his is dangerous and uncertain. So....he thinks the best thing he can do is once again step aside.
What does all of this mean...I dont know, but that last scene...it was obvious Clark and Chloe werent happy.....and I dont think it was just because some things would be changing between the two.
All of these points are exactly what I saw too!
THE CHLARK WAS GREAT TONIGHT! :)
AChloeChick
09-25-2008, 10:52 PM
Oh, I forgot the, "We're more than just friends," comment.
No, I'm not very optimistic at all. But, I know what I see (and have seen) on screen. I know there's many underlying things going on between Chlark; the verbal and non-verbal clues as to what's REALLY going on between the. It's been written and performed that way for over seven years now!
I honestly don't see them doing away with it anytime soon. However, that doesn't mean I'm foolish enough to truly believe they'll go through with roma Chlark. They should, but I don't think they will because they feel like they HAVE to line-up with the mythos.
Which, IMO, there's absolutely NO reason they can't go through with Chlark, even with the mythos. After all, Clark was in a very serious relationship with a certain mermaid, and that didn't 'ruin' the mythos.
So, why not Chlark? IMO, I think it's more about fear of 'tainting' Clois than anything else (PLEASE no rocks or stones being thrown my way. This is my opinion, and I'm entitled to it just like anyone else).
BTW, I won't EVER stop shipping Chlark! Not even when they 'supposedly' tell me otherwise.
Minamostaza
09-25-2008, 10:55 PM
Okay, I'm going to let my wall down to say that Chlark was off-the-charts tonight!
Clark's immediate concern for Chloe (again, their hands all over each other).
Davis mistaking Clark for Chloe's fiance (hmm, I can't imagine why).
Team Chlark.
Clark rescuing Chloe (in slow mo, even better).
Clark's expression when he found of Chloe was engaged (although it wasn't shot directly as a triangle, it can be implied [Clark-Chloe-Davis]). His continued expression over it, even tossing the flowers at Lois. Then leaving immediately to talk to Chloe about it.
Clark wondering why Chloe hadn't said anything.
Chloe not wanting to say anything (I know when I got engaged, I wanted to tell the world).
Chloe saying she's not ready to give up her relationship with Clark, then fishing for Clark's reaction (it reminded me of Zod). Again, when I got engaged I was willing to give up most everything.
Clark's hesitancy on responding by telling her he'd never get in the way of her pursuing her happiness (TVG interview anyone?). I'm waiting for those feelings to 'creep in'.
The SWEET embrace (both of their expressions were very telling)!
Clark's quick defense about Chloe's engagement while talking to Lois about it (seems to be he didn't want to talk about it and dismissed it immediately).
Personally, I LOVE Chlark and they've given us some of the best Chlark in quite a while! I know I shouldn't let my guard down. BUT, I'm going to enjoy the ride while I can. I may be setting myself up for some major heartache, but I still know that Chlark is more than worth it!
So, there's NO reason for anyone to tell us that we're just dreaming and/or we're delusional . . . it's not going to happen . . . Clois is the future . . . blah, blah, blah. I'm a Chlarker and I WILL ship Chlark to the bitter end!
Bask in the beauty of Chlark!
Amen to that!
I won't ever give up on Chlark neither! I would always always be a Chlarker too,forever!!!!!!!
Khyla
09-25-2008, 10:55 PM
and of course the BIGGIE in-your-face obvious:
Davis mistaking Clark for Chloe's fiance (hmm, I can't imagine why).
Personally, I LOVE Chlark and they've given us some of the best Chlark in quite a while! ... I still know that Chlark is more than worth it!
So, there's NO reason for anyone to tell us that we're just dreaming and/or we're delusional . . . it's not going to happen . . . Clois is the future . . . blah, blah, blah. I'm a Chlarker and I WILL ship Chlark to the bitter end!
Bask in the beauty of Chlark!
:D
Minamostaza
09-25-2008, 11:04 PM
I loved that part too. Davis really screw up the "sorprise" of Chloe to Clark! jeje
ginnyfan
09-25-2008, 11:26 PM
Chlark was great in this episode.
A dose of Lois had Clark making that face he made at Lana in Season four. When Lana asks him about the fact that he and Lois are "together" and... THAT face. He made that face when he said, "Now that Lex is not around..." sort of suggesting that Chloe come back to the Daily Planet. LOL!
So I liked that Clark missed Chloe and she had a chance to express why she WASN'T coming back to Clark. And best of all it was a friendship scene! They talked shop a little but mostly they were just friends. *contented sigh*
She ALMOST told him that she was getting married. But his phone rang. I don't think Chloe's nervousness is a bad sign. She's young and getting married is a HUGE step. I don't think it means anything negative toward her level of commitment or anything.
The fact that Davis thought Chloe and Clark were together feeds into the scene near the end of the episode. Jimmy thought Chloe and Clark were together at first and even was suspicious while dating Chloe so this is nothing new. But it's also not to be dismissed IMO.
Um... the save was great! Very Superman. I loved how Clark was... so kind to Bette even in the face of her almost killing Chloe. I like to think that he's grown from his experiences with Lex and Lionel to be more patient... to have more perspective. Anyways awesome save.
OK. The scene where Clark has Chloe's ring was really good. And yes it can be interpreted in a romantic way I suppose. I actually wasn't sure WHAT it meant when I first watched it. But... then again... it's complicated. Chloe and Clark have been through so much together. As others have said in this thread it goes beyond friendship. Maybe people who are war veterans have friends like this but... it's very... unique and hard to define. They aren't lovers and even though Chloe held onto the hope that there would be romance between them she has chosen Jimmy.
Also... I think that Chloe is acknowledging that her priorities have to change now that she's fully made this commitment. In seasons 6 and 7 Chloe never... acknowledged that Jimmy had a point about all the mysterious time she spent with Clark and the fact that Clark has a claim on her. She's not his employee but... there's that kind of unquestioning loyalty and sense of service that Chloe freely gives Clark. She gives a lot of unconditional love and time to Clark... unquestioningly. Or at least she did. And that's got to change. It changes anyway since she's no longer a journalist for now but... I think that's what she meant.
Then Clark... "we are more than just friends." Well they are. And the second time around I could really see Clark's hurt that Chloe didn't tell him that something this huge was happening in her life. He was really hurt.
Now this is the real kicker for me. My Chlark heart died stone cold dead in Season five. Clark said he was marrying Lana out of fear and Chloe was... supportive although her heart was breaking. Well this scene healed that for me. Clark - I interpret it as friendship and the mysterious claim he's had on her since season five - has a lot of selfish feelings that... he puts to the side to support Chloe. I really needed that. Chloe's done that for him so often that I need that moment.
Still shipping Chimmy! But it was a great episode for Chlark.
morethanmeetstheye
09-25-2008, 11:27 PM
Why cant you make them platonic....why must clark grab chloe all of the time, why must they gaze into eachothers eyes a second too long....why does it always come back to "chlark" in every single relationship chloe has tried to be in?
Exactly. These things happen so often that it drives me up the wall. I hate having the feeling of excitement from a Chlark scene always soured by the knowledge that it wont lead to a thing (but it *might*, but it won't, but...). And it's not the idea of the mythos that trained me for this letdown, but the fact that the writers had the ability to have a temporary Chlark before Clois, and yet never passed the chance to dangle it over our heads without the intention to play it out. I get that shows worship the "triangle" in all relationships, but it seems especially cruel to do what they do with Chlark, with no give-and-take. The way they play us makes it a lot more difficult to do the logical thing and let go.
AndiGirl
09-25-2008, 11:33 PM
I love posts like yours Ginnyfan!
You arent a chlark shipper....but you atleast recognize their moments, and dont tell chlarkers they are crazy for seeing them!!
Thanks for that. :)
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Exactly. These things happen so often that it drives me up the wall. I hate having the feeling of excitement from a Chlark scene always soured by the knowledge that it wont lead to a thing (but it *might*, but it won't, but...). And it's not the idea of the mythos that trained me for this letdown, but the fact that the writers had the ability to have a temporary Chlark before Clois, and yet never passed the chance to dangle it over our heads without the intention to play it out. I get that shows worship the "triangle" in all relationships, but it seems especially cruel to do what they do with Chlark, with no give-and-take. The way they play us makes it a lot more difficult to do the logical thing and let go.
I know....I want to just let it go so badly...and it makes it that much more infuriating when other ships tell us we are "crazy" and "it will never happen, get over it."
I so badly want to say....you try wanting something for 8 years, and then tell me if you can just "let it go." Lois has only been on this show for 5 years...Chloe has been here for 8. I fully expect Clois to happen...but what if it didnt...and the writers just tortured the Cloisers....I'm sure they would feel differently then. And I know I wouldnt tell them they were misleaded in the clois ship.
I look at ships from a level headed perspective. I fully admitt when Clois have a romantic scene...or I see chemistry between them...and it just blows my mind that people cant see chlark at all....or arent willing to step outside their ship for 5 seconds and consider the possibility that this huge fan basis isnt crazy...and infact have been seeing exactly what the writers want us to see!! LOVE.
It kills me to want them so bad...and have these moments that lead no where. Thats why I just want them to stop. I agree with you....it would be so much easier to let go...if they would just let me. :(
I thought their scenes were lovely. The Chloe/Clark, and Chloe/Davis scenes were the best scenes in the episode,imo.
stenochick
09-26-2008, 07:06 AM
My caption read "We're more than friends." and then "We're family." --> that last line was omitted, but it was in the script.
I watch with captions too and notice all the changes from the original script. That is very telling that they left out the "we're family" line. Maybe it would have caused Clark to remember that he had a cousin named Kara who has missing for over a month now.
AndiGirl
09-26-2008, 09:01 AM
I watch with captions too and notice all the changes from the original script. That is very telling that they left out the "we're family" line. Maybe it would have caused Clark to remember that he had a cousin named Kara who has missing for over a month now.
I'm curious why they left it out....
I think it was to give chlarkers hope. If I had heard "we're family" I wouldnt be this worked up! :lol:
But then again...their hug in the end didnt look like family...so who knows.
I loved Chlark. Something was really going on between Clark & Chloe as they hugged. They were unsure what their life would be like without each other. Or then I might be wrong. I'm sorry, I'm a little confused right now.
moviefan2k4
09-26-2008, 10:05 AM
I'm honestly very curious....not trying to be mean or anything, I really just want to know. Why would you ever be sad if your best friend was getting married?I can't speak for anyone else, but I think that if I had a very close female friend, and possibly had romantic feelings for her...then the prospect of her getting married would make me very sad. I'd be torn (as Clark seems to be) between wanting that woman for myself, and letting her go to pursue her marriage.
The main difference in that scene is that, unlike many actual couples, it seems that Chloe and Clark are both torn the same way (I've always thought such things were usually one-sided). Clark has a slight desire to keep Chloe for himself, and yet he knows Jimmy would make her very happy. Chloe, on the other hand, sincerely loves Jimmy, but deep down, she's always been in love with Clark, and she doesn't want that to change.
msjade16
09-26-2008, 10:13 AM
The main difference in that scene is that, unlike many actual couples, it seems that Chloe and Clark are both torn the same way (I've always thought such things were usually one-sided). Clark has a slight desire to keep Chloe for himself, and yet he knows Jimmy would make her very happy. Chloe, on the other hand, sincerely loves Jimmy, but deep down, she's always been in love with Clark, and she doesn't want that to change.
You nailed it dead on. I agree with this 100%. Except for the part where Chloe sincerely loves Jimmy because I don't think it's that meant to be kind of love as evident in her actions/reactions with..... two other men this episode.;)
AndiGirl
09-26-2008, 10:26 AM
I can't speak for anyone else, but I think that if I had a very close female friend, and possibly had romantic feelings for her...then the prospect of her getting married would make me very sad. I'd be torn (as Clark seems to be) between wanting that woman for myself, and letting her go to pursue her marriage.
The main difference in that scene is that, unlike many actual couples, it seems that Chloe and Clark are both torn the same way (I've always thought such things were usually one-sided). Clark has a slight desire to keep Chloe for himself, and yet he knows Jimmy would make her very happy. Chloe, on the other hand, sincerely loves Jimmy, but deep down, she's always been in love with Clark, and she doesn't want that to change.
ITA, but I also think thats the problem....you wouldnt be as upset as Chloe and Clark. I would of course be sad if I was losing some of my bond with my best friend....but nowhere near chloe and clark. I could have atleast mustered a "congratulations" or sometihng.
In the end I would be more happy then sad. But they seem more sad then happy. Which, another red flag....chimmy shouldnt happen. I love my red flags! :p
AChloeChick
09-26-2008, 11:59 AM
You nailed it dead on. I agree with this 100%. Except for the part where Chloe sincerely loves Jimmy because I don't think it's that meant to be kind of love as evident in her actions/reactions with..... two other men this episode.;)
Agreed, never have and NEVER will believe she's in-love with Jimmy. Sure, she may love him. But there's a world of difference between love and being in-love.
Not only that, if you're truly in-love with someone, you're willing to lose that special bond with someone else, you may not like it, but you're more than willing. Plus, for someone who's supposed to be engaged and believe 'Jimmy's the one', you don't act like Chloe did with Davis, period!
Enough of that, it's clear to me that Chloe STILL has more-than-just-friends feelings for Clark. It was nice to see those underlying (and very well hidden) feelings for Chloe. I know it's not going to go any where, but I'm going to enjoy it while it last.
dimeo782002
09-26-2008, 01:28 PM
Okay, I'm going to let my wall down to say that Chlark was off-the-charts tonight!
Clark's immediate concern for Chloe (again, their hands all over each other).
Davis mistaking Clark for Chloe's fiance (hmm, I can't imagine why).
Team Chlark.
Clark rescuing Chloe (in slow mo, even better).
Clark's expression when he found of Chloe was engaged (although it wasn't shot directly as a triangle, it can be implied [Clark-Chloe-Davis]). His continued expression over it, even tossing the flowers at Lois. Then leaving immediately to talk to Chloe about it.
Clark wondering why Chloe hadn't said anything.
Chloe not wanting to say anything (I know when I got engaged, I wanted to tell the world).
Chloe saying she's not ready to give up her relationship with Clark, then fishing for Clark's reaction (it reminded me of Zod). Again, when I got engaged I was willing to give up most everything.
Clark's hesitancy on responding by telling her he'd never get in the way of her pursuing her happiness (TVG interview anyone?). I'm waiting for those feelings to 'creep in'.
The SWEET embrace (both of their expressions were very telling)!
Clark's quick defense about Chloe's engagement while talking to Lois about it (seems to be he didn't want to talk about it and dismissed it immediately).
Personally, I LOVE Chlark and they've given us some of the best Chlark in quite a while! I know I shouldn't let my guard down. BUT, I'm going to enjoy the ride while I can. I may be setting myself up for some major heartache, but I still know that Chlark is more than worth it!
So, there's NO reason for anyone to tell us that we're just dreaming and/or we're delusional . . . it's not going to happen . . . Clois is the future . . . blah, blah, blah. I'm a Chlarker and I WILL ship Chlark to the bitter end!
Bask in the beauty of Chlark!
Chlark is beautiful ! you are so right on !
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I wish I was as optomistic as you!!
I honestly dont think I wear Chlark blinders...as some would say. I see when Clois has their moments...Clana...everyone. I fully admitt in tonights episode when Lois falls into clark there is a moment...and when she winks at him.
So why is it if I truly feel there is something between these two people it's "Oh...you're crazy" or "she's wearing her chlark blinders" Granted...not everyone acts this way...but I agree, it is quite frustrating to be told what you think you saw is not real...and get over it when time and time again I have proven to look at things subjectively.
With that said...I think chlark will probably stay friends. As much as it kills me....I dont think its going to happen. Which is honestly ok with me as long as they clear the air. Tonight pissed me off. Once again...clear signs that there werent just friendship feelings lying there....and all I want is for that stuff to go away.
Ok TPTB...Chlark isnt happening, you've said time and time again....so why the hell do you incist on torturing me? Why cant you make them platonic....why must clark grab chloe all of the time, why must they gaze into eachothers eyes a second too long....why does it always come back to "chlark" in every single relationship chloe has tried to be in?
I will stop shipping chlark once the writers stop giving me a reason to hang on. :)
This is totally the same problem i have and why im so defensive in other threads ! i see the looks the embrace ! i wish it would just stop or to be honest i don't want it to end i want them together but im must open my eyes and see tptb are not gonna let it be , all we will get it the continual carrot on the string and we are the donkey's lol !
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Oh, I forgot the, "We're more than just friends," comment.
No, I'm not very optimistic at all. But, I know what I see (and have seen) on screen. I know there's many underlying things going on between Chlark; the verbal and non-verbal clues as to what's REALLY going on between the. It's been written and performed that way for over seven years now!
I honestly don't see them doing away with it anytime soon. However, that doesn't mean I'm foolish enough to truly believe they'll go through with roma Chlark. They should, but I don't think they will because they feel like they HAVE to line-up with the mythos.
Which, IMO, there's absolutely NO reason they can't go through with Chlark, even with the mythos. After all, Clark was in a very serious relationship with a certain mermaid, and that didn't 'ruin' the mythos.
So, why not Chlark? IMO, I think it's more about fear of 'tainting' Clois than anything else (PLEASE no rocks or stones being thrown my way. This is my opinion, and I'm entitled to it just like anyone else).
BTW, I won't EVER stop shipping Chlark! Not even when they 'supposedly' tell me otherwise.
oh my gosh i forgot about the mermaid !!!
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I love posts like yours Ginnyfan!
You arent a chlark shipper....but you atleast recognize their moments, and dont tell chlarkers they are crazy for seeing them!!
Thanks for that. :)
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I know....I want to just let it go so badly...and it makes it that much more infuriating when other ships tell us we are "crazy" and "it will never happen, get over it."
I so badly want to say....you try wanting something for 8 years, and then tell me if you can just "let it go." Lois has only been on this show for 5 years...Chloe has been here for 8. I fully expect Clois to happen...but what if it didnt...and the writers just tortured the Cloisers....I'm sure they would feel differently then. And I know I wouldnt tell them they were misleaded in the clois ship.
I look at ships from a level headed perspective. I fully admitt when Clois have a romantic scene...or I see chemistry between them...and it just blows my mind that people cant see chlark at all....or arent willing to step outside their ship for 5 seconds and consider the possibility that this huge fan basis isnt crazy...and infact have been seeing exactly what the writers want us to see!! LOVE.
It kills me to want them so bad...and have these moments that lead no where. Thats why I just want them to stop. I agree with you....it would be so much easier to let go...if they would just let me. :(
same here and i just came from the what would u do clark thread and it's about who he should choose lois or chloe and i have stated the same case you make and got jumped by fallen one again lol ! it's always the same people trying to shut me up . but it's true i have been called a fan wanker and delusional and been told to get over it or they accuse me of yelling . even if i don't use cap lock and all lower case letters they still acuse me of yelling and being too emotinal or im nuts it is so wrong and i wish the moderators would not even allow who is better threads.
anywhoo i just wanted to say ita with you !
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I can't speak for anyone else, but I think that if I had a very close female friend, and possibly had romantic feelings for her...then the prospect of her getting married would make me very sad. I'd be torn (as Clark seems to be) between wanting that woman for myself, and letting her go to pursue her marriage.
The main difference in that scene is that, unlike many actual couples, it seems that Chloe and Clark are both torn the same way (I've always thought such things were usually one-sided). Clark has a slight desire to keep Chloe for himself, and yet he knows Jimmy would make her very happy. Chloe, on the other hand, sincerely loves Jimmy, but deep down, she's always been in love with Clark, and she doesn't want that to change.
everything you just said...... perfect absolutely perfect ! that says it all and guess what ? it's all true those feelings cannot be denied and for people to say were delusional and clark only cares for chloe as a friend ... they are the ones that are delusional and thats why they come to chlarks threads to put us down cause they feel threatened.
but what you just said is the reason im so confused , the emotion says it all and it's not in our chlarky heads !;)
Lobby4Chloe
09-26-2008, 05:34 PM
I don't know about everyone else, during the scene when Chloe finally reveals to Clark the engagement, Clark says "We're more than friends, Chloe" I had my closed captioning on and Clark was suppose to continue on to say "We're family," but there was no audio for that, so unless you had thecaptions on you wouldn't have seen this. Sorry to disappoint Chlark-ers out there, but that's never gonna happen. Clark considers Chloe family...only.
Interesting. I wondered what he meant by that. Chloe seemed to want to ignore the comment. Maybe they wanted to keep it vague in editing.
dimeo782002
09-26-2008, 06:05 PM
Interesting. I wondered what he meant by that. Chloe seemed to want to ignore the comment. Maybe they wanted to keep it vague in editing.
no there is a girl on here who wrote that she is in school for captioning or texting shows and she said the main reason this would show on the captions is because it was CUT from the scene but was still in the script that is why we don't hear clark say it because it was CUT supposedly the captioners type the script but if it was cut they don't know and still type it.
it's just tptb stringing the carrot:D
oh by the way the big bold print is not for you it's just a reminder that it is not important cause it was cut from the scene.
chlarker4eva08
09-26-2008, 07:43 PM
idk what 2 think of this whole thing.... im just a confused chlarker!:(:confused:
Bella882
09-26-2008, 07:54 PM
I just caught their scenes online and I just want to slap the writers. This is the kind of scene we have been waiting YEARS for and I can't even get excited over it. Knowing its going to mean jack by the time Bride gets here when they pull a lightswitch
The main difference in that scene is that, unlike many actual couples, it seems that Chloe and Clark are both torn the same way (I've always thought such things were usually one-sided). Clark has a slight desire to keep Chloe for himself, and yet he knows Jimmy would make her very happy. Chloe, on the other hand, sincerely loves Jimmy, but deep down, she's always been in love with Clark, and she doesn't want that to change.
Exactly, and that's what makes this scene even more bittersweet. Chloe's reaction just when he went in to give her a hug got to me. She looked taken aback, caught her off guard, like someone snapped her out of the moment. She looked disappointed and brought me right back to Chloe season one/two. Clark's hug from his POV at first smiling, and then that final image looking disappointed. Being able to remove the "mask" that has been clouded by the pink bunny for eight years. Damn you Smallville. :\
This kind of crap only reaffirms why I'll always love these two together
wolverine316
09-26-2008, 08:20 PM
Did anyone do a double take when Clarked hugged Chloe? At the beginning of the hug, he had the same facial expression as Bizarro
LILdevil426
09-26-2008, 08:35 PM
Well, I think everyone has said ALL that COULD Be said about that scene. I agree in that both clark and chloe don't want things to change. I think that Chloe doesn't want to marry Jimmy, I beleive she noticed when Davis told her the "if its Real Love" line she kind of did a face like she didn't beleive that the love she had with Jimmy to be REAL love. I think she did ANOTHER of those Chloe spur in the moments thing ( Vessel kiss with Clark, and Chimmy kiss in elevator.) accepting the proposal. But that's what I think.
And I think that the scene with Chloe at the talon showed Clark's TRUE feelings about Chloe ( Finally!). I think this season is a reversal of season two. Clark is Chloe and Chloe is Clark. Clark I think has realized that he has feelings for Chloe and he has known that since season SIX. And that's not just me Al and Miles said that in an interview for SV mag. when season six started I remember it CLEARLY. ( Hello like I'm going to forget when Al and miles confirmed that Clark has feelings for Chloe.) And I think he realizes now he won't be able to show them to Chloe and that's why I think that it affected him so much that Chloe got engaged.
And I OFFICIALLY BELEIVE NOW ( I didn't b4) that CLark is a BDA. Am I the only one that WISHED after she said "are you?" He would have SAID what his FACE was saying. Clearly he wanted to say don't marry jimmy like take a chance on me? And At the end of the scene you can totally notice that he regretted ALL OF THOSE YEARS that he didn't take a chance with Chloe.
To ME Chloe is confused. She loves jimmy AND Clark and she's trying 2 decide who she wants and now with the Doom Hottie it's going to be hard!! ( b.t.w loved the Chloom totally cute!) And I think that by Committed she will have decided and we ALL know who's it going to be and unfortunately it starts with a J.
Jade4813
09-26-2008, 10:09 PM
I look at ships from a level headed perspective. I fully admitt when Clois have a romantic scene...or I see chemistry between them...and it just blows my mind that people cant see chlark at all....or arent willing to step outside their ship for 5 seconds and consider the possibility that this huge fan basis isnt crazy...and infact have been seeing exactly what the writers want us to see!! LOVE.
It kills me to want them so bad...and have these moments that lead no where. Thats why I just want them to stop. I agree with you....it would be so much easier to let go...if they would just let me. :(
If I can address your point here. I think the bolded part, above, may be an answer to the italicized part, above.
I obviously can't speak for everyone, just for myself. But I think I've been fairly honest about the fact that I used to ship Chlark. Chlark fanfiction I think was the first fanfiction I tried to read for Smallville. I considered writing Chlark fanfic. I was all kinds of pissed when my roomie told me they hadn't gotten together when I was on S1 watching the show.
But, see, there are reasons why I've stopped shipping Chlark. Not everyone sees the ship the way I do, and I get that. But for me personally, they burned that bridge and I can't go back. Nor, in fact, would I want to because what they did with Chlark left such an incredibly bad taste in my mouth.
It is because I used to ship Chlark and they ruined it for me that when I see Chlark scenes, I'm levelheaded enough to see that some people will see romance behind them. But my default is set on "friends" and I DO think that most Chlark scenes can be perceived in that way.
Take last night. I could see where people could say that Clark was realizing what he'd lost in hearing about Chloe's engagement. But I could also see a very strong argument for him being sad that she didn't tell him first and with the reality that things will change between them.
I won't lie and say that I didn't see that people could read romance into it, but I see friendship. You could say I want to see friendship, I suppose - but then we do tend to see in shows what we want to see; I think that's natural as fans.
If you ask me, I could tell you where romance could be read into the scenes. But I see friendship. And the reason I am so incredibly adamant to personally see friendship only in scenes that could have Chlarky undertones is because of what you wrote above.
It kills me to want them so bad...and have these moments that lead no where.
I don't think they're going anywhere with it. Now, that's my personal opinion, so don't jump on me now folks. I don't think, from what I've heard, they're going to do Chlark in Smallville at all. I came to that conclusion ages ago. Would I rather believe that they're pimping Chlark friendship than dropping an endless series of cruel bones to fans, bones that won't go anywhere and won't lead to anything? Absolutely.
Plus, seeing friendship and friendship alone in Chlark makes me actually like the characters more. So I'm happy to be able to say that I get where people see romance there but I don't see it myself personally. Since about Season...3...probably right around the Fever letter, actually, the Chlark ship sank irrevocably for me, and I grew to hate the characters more the longer it was dragged on.
I had physical loathing for Clark in S5 when he went to Chloe for Clana sex advice. I was actually livid when he did that. How cruel could he be? And I grew extremely disappointed with Chloe when she held on so long that, to me, her character lost some dignity that I thought the writers should have spared her.
I watched A Midsummer Night's Dream when it came out and during that whole speech (which I hate with a passion) about "Treat me as you would your dog!" I felt like the writers weren't too far from writing Chloe like that in Smallville and that made me vomit in my mouth. Again, that's my perception.
If I watch a Chlark scene and recognize it as being a scene between friends who love each other as friends very deeply, I get a warm happy glow watching the scene. If I watch it as a scene throwing a bone to a Chlark ship - that I don't think they intend to ever sail, I want to throw my television out the darn window.
In part, that's because I think leading shippers on is cruel. They clearly know how fervently people are attached to their ships; they shouldn't mess with fans like that.
But also because it makes me think of what a complete and utter asshat they made Clark be to Chloe in earlier seasons and how incredibly disappointed I was in her that she took it and took it and took it and never told Clark to take his personal problems in the bedroom somewhere else; she deserved better than to have to hear about the Clana sex. It makes me think that romantic undertones of Chlark mean that they haven't let Chloe move on in the past few seasons, to find someone who sees from the very beginning moment - like DAVIS DID FOR CRYING OUT LOUD and if DOOMSDAY can see it I should think the guy Chloe ends up with should! - that there's nobody in the world he wants more than her. Or, okay, if not in that first moment, then from the moment he realizes that there's something incredibly lovable about her, he doesn't turn his head and continue panting after something else. To me, the way I see the situation, Chloe deserves better than that. And, frankly, Clark deserves better than to be seen as a guy so fickle in his emotions that he would have treated Chloe as he did, being blind to her as a woman, putting her second always to Lana for crying out loud, for seven years but, golly, when someone else tries to take away his personal romantic emotional punching bag, he just can't take it!
If I were to perceive Chlark moments as romantic, I'd have a blind, seething, virulent hatred for Chloe and Clark as characters. That is, again, just me. I know that a lot of people see beauty there, and I'm happy for them that they do. I can see, objectively, where they see it.
But for me, I also see just friendship. And in the interest of actually leaving the show liking the majority of the characters (Lana, I fear, is a lost cause for me and has been for some time), I'm happy to see the friendship there and nothing else.
Anyway, that's just an answer, at least from my POV. I know not everyone sees it the way I do. But in answer of your general question (of sorts), I wanted to give you the most honest answer I could.
clarkbunny
09-27-2008, 10:32 AM
I am definitely a Chlarker and I was looking to see Clark's reaction to the news but I can honestly say I didn't see any disappointment on his face at all.
He was slightly upset that Chloe didn't tell him but there was definitely no wistful look like he had at the beginning of season 6. I think he is genuinely happy for her and is going to miss having the Chloe goodness all to himself :D
They took out the 'love you like family' part of his sentence to leave hope for us Chlarkers and set things up for whatever happens as a result of Chloe's high school letter resurfacing.
msjade16
09-27-2008, 11:27 AM
^^Yeah. And that is some major BullS*&t! I agree with Jade4813 on the point that it is really cruel of them to string along and lead on a particular fan base for the ratings. It's just not right.:mad:
Yes, I too am a Chlarker, but I've lost hope in the show so I stick to fanon not canon for my Chlarky heart, but on the show, you can consider me a Chlavis/Chloomy shipper.:D I still enjoy watching the Chlark scenes, even though I know they are just setting up the entire fandom for a major b*&^t slap because obviously I'm a masochist.:p I mean, really, you already tell us that basically Clois is endgame, and yet based on the spoilers you insist on reeling in the Chlark fan base just to tear them down in one episode and then jump back to "all about Clois" in the next episode. And I think most of you know what spoilers I'm talking about, for those who do read spoilers. It's bogus as hell. And I hate it!:mad:
Lucky for them I like the Chlavis because I was gonna drop kick SV's *ss to the curb after forementioned episode aired and just watch Chloe's and Davis's scenes on Youtube or Ch131.com. But after the Chloom dynamic of show ends, yes, I will be doing just that. Because even though little ol' me won't make much of a difference, I refuse to contribute to the ratings after that because I don't think we are watching the same show we've been watching for the past seven years.
And I don't like the sudden changes without suffient enough explainations. And some of the ret-cons are just ridiculous and un-fair, but I'm not gonna go there, I guess they have their reasons for that. And I mean in real life I can see some of these "sudden changes" happening w/o explaination, but this is a TV show, where you're supposed to "show" the progression of the story and not just "tell" it and skip to the good parts and have the other important parts (or what are supposed to be the important/iconic parts) happen in offscreenville, that's either just bad storytelling or lazy writing or both. But that's my opinion. I've heard both the "squeeing" side and the "angry" side of this particular argument and like I said I guess they have their reasons for doing what they did, but I don't have to like it. But I digress.
Anyway, Chlark, Chlavis, Chloom, Chlimmy, Whatever...... I am a fan of Chloe and I can watch her scenes and just her scenes online if I choose. Anyway, that's my view/opinion on TPTB and their plan to rid the show of Chlarkers forever.
Yes, this is, mostly, a bitter rant, but I think a valid one, either way I don't really care, it's my opinion whether some like it or not.:p:D
clarkbunny
09-27-2008, 11:46 AM
Just rewatched the scene again and whilst Clark seems perfectly OK with Chloe's announcement, Chloe does seem a bit disappointed by his reaction.
Her face really drops into an almost sad pout when he says "I'm sure you and Jimmy will be really happy together".
Although to be honest what else did she expect him to say? He'd hardly be a good friend if he said "No, you can't marry Jimmy, marry me/be with me". Clark is friends with Chloe and Jimmy it would be a nasty and selfish thing to do to try and take Chloe away from Jimmy when she gets engaged to Jimmy.
Jade4813
09-27-2008, 11:50 AM
Maybe she was hoping he'd say, "Don't go with Jimmy! Jump Davis!" (Along with a number of fans, going by the Chlavis thread).
Or would that have been out of place? ;)
Paty26
09-27-2008, 11:54 AM
Maybe she was hoping he'd say, "Don't go with Jimmy! Jump Davis!" (Along with a number of fans, going by the Chlavis thread).
Or would that have been out of place? ;)
yeah with davis!:lol::lol::lol:
clarkbunny
09-27-2008, 11:58 AM
Now I think Clark would actually be jealous if Chloe took an interest in Davis.
Jade4813
09-27-2008, 12:02 PM
Now I think Clark would actually be jealous if Chloe took an interest in Davis.
:lol: I wasn't being serious in saying that I expected Clark to shove Chloe bodily towards Davis. I was making a joke because it seemed clear to me (and several others apparently) that Chloe wouldn't exactly need to be shoved in that direction. More like pushed. Or tripped. Or nudged, even. Or maybe even poked. ;)
Minela
09-27-2008, 12:05 PM
I agree, I think that could be the case. :). I'm just happy it was so obvious how much they mean to eachother.
I think it's always obvious that they mean a lot to each other.
clarkbunny
09-27-2008, 12:07 PM
:lol: I wasn't being serious in saying that I expected Clark to shove Chloe bodily towards Davis. I was making a joke because it seemed clear to me (and several others apparently) that Chloe wouldn't exactly need to be shoved in that direction. More like pushed. Or tripped. Or nudged, even. Or maybe even poked. ;)
Oh yes, I knew you were joking. But I think if Clark saw Chloe taking an interest in Davis or vice versa he would be quite jealous.
:lol: I wasn't being serious in saying that I expected Clark to shove Chloe bodily towards Davis. I was making a joke because it seemed clear to me (and several others apparently) that Chloe wouldn't exactly need to be shoved in that direction. More like pushed. Or tripped. Or nudged, even. Or maybe even poked. ;)
BuddyTv has an article compairing Davis and Jimmy. Their verdict is that Davis is a "man" and Jimmy is a "boy."
LovelyLoisLane
09-27-2008, 08:49 PM
They took out the 'love you like family' part of his sentence.
Did you get that too? I got 'we're family' on mine. What is up with that? I've seen that happen in some movies before too (I turn on subtitles sometimes because I don't always understand what they are saying) Where the subtitles will have someone saying something that they don't say.
Does that mean that line made it to the final script but was edited out of the episode? That was . . . odd.
I'm not a Chlarker at all, but it felt like there was SOMETHING unresolved there.
chlarker4eva08
09-27-2008, 09:07 PM
hey every1 read the interview that allison mack did with kryptonsite!! it says a lot about all her "man troubles"...it really helped me...im new at this but i'll c if i can get the link up n if it isnt there by 2morrow,its in the news section where they talk about odyssey
LovelyLoisLane
09-27-2008, 09:11 PM
hey every1 read the interview that allison mack did with kryptonsite!! it says a lot about all her "man troubles"...it really helped me...im new at this but i'll c if i can get the link up n if it isnt there by 2morrow,its in the news section where they talk about odyssey
Well you can talk about that, but not here. It has to go in the spoilers forums, unless you spoiler tag it for here.
chlark fan
09-27-2008, 09:20 PM
LOVED the Chlark in this episode!!! I saw a glimpse of the old Chlark chemistry and it totally revitalized my obsession. :p I thought the Davis/Chloe interaction was sweet too...I'm just loving the oodles of Chloe so far this season. She's even listed 2nd in the credits. EEEEEEEEEE!! :D
RedKRules
09-27-2008, 09:43 PM
BuddyTv has an article compairing Davis and Jimmy. Their verdict is that Davis is a "man" and Jimmy is a "boy."
Of course Jimmy is a boy, look at his behavior...
Now Davis is THE MAN!:eek::eek:
LovelyLoisLane
09-27-2008, 09:44 PM
If only he stayed that way . . . and thus . . . why I can't get behind that ship.
amberdawn
09-27-2008, 09:44 PM
No, Davis is a monster.
RedKRules
09-27-2008, 09:51 PM
Doom is ...... Davis is not yet .... so I can appreciate him until he doesnīt become evil, or after as well!
OutlawAdamKnight
09-27-2008, 09:53 PM
I want TPTB to break my heart with Chlark. I really do. I have invested a lot of time and patience in a Clark - Chloe relationship, and frankly, I know it's never gonna happen. SO if they just fluffed it off, I would be so let down. Give us a good cry. Make the world see how dumb Clark is for not going for this shot. Make him squirm as Chloe gets happily married while he sits there alone. This will be how he moves forward in life, as Superman - and to Lois.
Make us feel it PTB, otherwise you'll suck as much as the Mummy 3.
AK
chlark-x
09-28-2008, 12:30 AM
aww they were so cute, damn i hate that they will never be :(
aww he saves chloe's life :) - again lol
chlark for season 8 (although i doubt it)
Billy Jor-El
09-28-2008, 10:09 AM
Late jumping in on this thread, but I saw Chloe telling Clark about the engagement, then looking disappointed that he didn't say NO, I WANT YOU! Although that would bring Chloe down a few notches. Face it, what would that do to Jimmy? She said yes to him, only to hope that Clark then stands up and decides he wants her now (of course, Clark has always looked forelorn whenever Chloe is with someone else, or in the ep where he "didn't exist" seemed lost when she didn't know him, and was engaged to the guy she was with at that moment).
At the hug Clark also looked less than happy.....again, finally realizing the one girl he truly cares about is sliding away from him?
All in all, she's too good for Clark, even when he dons the cape perhaps....
dimeo782002
09-28-2008, 01:38 PM
Just rewatched the scene again and whilst Clark seems perfectly OK with Chloe's announcement, Chloe does seem a bit disappointed by his reaction.
Her face really drops into an almost sad pout when he says "I'm sure you and Jimmy will be really happy together".
Although to be honest what else did she expect him to say? He'd hardly be a good friend if he said "No, you can't marry Jimmy, marry me/be with me". Clark is friends with Chloe and Jimmy it would be a nasty and selfish thing to do to try and take Chloe away from Jimmy when she gets engaged to Jimmy.
maybe he grew up since lana lol ! it didn't stop him from telling lana , i love you marry me * vomit * although i was never a clana fan i did feel hurt for there tormented souls .:eek:
clarkbunny
09-28-2008, 05:01 PM
^
Yeah but Lex wasn't really Clark's friend at the time so I guess the gloves were off when it came to Lana. "Don't marry him, marry me"
It's quite funny that after their long history together the only person that actually got to marry Lana was Lex :lol:
Joelito
09-28-2008, 05:18 PM
This wasn't the end of "Chlark" that I've exptected, but was nice the talk of this two best friends forever.
wolverine316
09-28-2008, 06:48 PM
or in the ep where he "didn't exist" seemed lost when she didn't know him, and was engaged to the guy she was with at that moment).
He didn't look lost to me in that ep.:confused:
dimeo782002
09-28-2008, 08:43 PM
^
Yeah but Lex wasn't really Clark's friend at the time so I guess the gloves were off when it came to Lana. "Don't marry him, marry me"
It's quite funny that after their long history together the only person that actually got to marry Lana was Lex :lol:
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Hopefulsuicide
09-29-2008, 04:43 AM
i haven't been a fan of the clark angst since season 4, but this had my insides twisting. i loved that scene at the end, where he is all noble and says he just wants her to be happy... and she looks so dissapointed, like she was kinda hoping he'd be upset and declare his undying love :lol:... i've been there!
Ayanne
09-29-2008, 02:28 PM
Late jumping in on this thread, but I saw Chloe telling Clark about the engagement, then looking disappointed that he didn't say NO, I WANT YOU! Although that would bring Chloe down a few notches. Face it, what would that do to Jimmy? She said yes to him, only to hope that Clark then stands up and decides he wants her now (of course, Clark has always looked forelorn whenever Chloe is with someone else, or in the ep where he "didn't exist" seemed lost when she didn't know him, and was engaged to the guy she was with at that moment).
At the hug Clark also looked less than happy.....again, finally realizing the one girl he truly cares about is sliding away from him?
All in all, she's too good for Clark, even when he dons the cape perhaps....
He didn't say "No, I want you." but he sure looked physically ill at the end. I thought he was going to kiss her when he stepped in so close. HOT!!
Runestone
09-29-2008, 05:53 PM
While I'm glad they talked about their "relationship" for the first time in a long time, I couldn't help but feel really discouraged by this scene. I gave up on realistic Chlark happening a couple years ago, so to me this just felt like another "Goodbye, because this is never going to happen".
Minamostaza
09-29-2008, 06:49 PM
I thought he was going to kiss her when he stepped in so close. HOT!!
I thought the same as you, he was so close to kiss her! Good way to say a good-bye Clark.....or maybe he didn't want to say it, because you can perfectly see at the hug scene that he doesn't wanna let her go!!!
Khyla
09-29-2008, 08:37 PM
... I thought he was going to kiss her when he stepped in so close. HOT!!
It definitely gave that impression at first!
But don't worry. Chlark is FAR from being over! :)
Smallvillebabe08
09-30-2008, 09:45 AM
Chlark really should happen. They are both still in love with each other, no matter what they say.
Hopefulsuicide
09-30-2008, 10:34 AM
While I'm glad they talked about their "relationship" for the first time in a long time, I couldn't help but feel really discouraged by this scene. I gave up on realistic Chlark happening a couple years ago, so to me this just felt like another "Goodbye, because this is never going to happen".
i definately didn't think it was a goodbye thing but it did shock me a bit, because it's sort of been being ignored in an out loud sense for so long now... but i guess feelings never do go away
seemed to me the whole scene was very ambiguous. like 'we are more than just friends' i half expected it to be followed by, 'your like family' and when it wasn't i did wonder what that meant... could it mean what we all hope it means...
AChloeChick
09-30-2008, 12:01 PM
^^^I'm really not sure what they're trying to do. However, as much as I'd like to believe it means what we hope it means, I simply can't (I want to, but I can't). We're just too close to the end of SV and I don't think they're going to be able to pull off roma Chlark because of that.
Chlark is an absolutely beautiful relationship! It should have happened, and it could have happened. Sadly, it didn't and I don't think it will.
Hopefully, I'm wrong and they'll shock me.
Anyway, I don't think it was the final 'goodbye' yet. We still have the Fever letter, Clark's possible realization, Lois supporting Chlark, Chlark flashbacks, and a Chlark dance (although the dance is after the wedding . . . BLECH).
As long as SV is around, Chlark is around. It probably will never be what SO many want it to be. But it will always (hopefully) be a thing a beauty!
Kevin24
10-01-2008, 10:44 AM
Chloe and Clark are a good example of what a good marriage should be like. Communication and being open and honest with each other. They may not be a couple and do the stuff couples do but they are in love in a non physical way. Love in it's purest form I guess?
dimeo782002
10-02-2008, 10:54 PM
If anyone is interested i wrote my first Chlark fiction story and no one has read it yet ! feel free to check it out !
The title is
To Have And Not To hold
it's under adult fan fic so please 18 and older only !
im so proud of my first story .it was like a tornadoe took over me , seeing them in my head as i wrote the story ... I know cheesy but , i have not written a chlark story before .
check it out and let me know what you think !
Here is a sample of the story
The story takes place just when clark hugs chloe at the end of plastique ...
Clarks arms engulf Chloe embracing her against his chest, he can feel her heart beat pitter pat ,pitter pat ,against him and as he lay his head upon her shoulder . the warmth of her felt good and it saddened him for how could he tell her he was jealous ? How could he tell her that he may even be in love with her ?
As clark thought a single tear traveled down his cheek as he closed his eyes .
Clark pushed Chloe away wiping his tears.
Chloe :" Clark "
.Chloe :"Clark is something wrong " ?
Clark : " no Chloe... Im fine just thinking about something is all "
Chloe thumbled
Chloe : " Clark please tell me "
Clark : "Alright there is something" But it may ruin everything .....You need to really think if you want to do this Chloe "
Chloe : "Clark do what ? I don't understand ? "
Clark : "Meet me downstairs in the talon in fifteen minutes , if you wait any longer... I will have lost my nerve and the moment shall pass "
Chloe ran to Clark and touched his cheek , Clark took Chloe's hand in his and kissed it. ( he was shaking )
Clark : " Chloe if you have any feelings left for me.. ( stammering ) ... I mean if you still have those special feelings for me i will be downstairs for fifteen minutes ... if you wait too long i will be gone " then we can just leave things as they are with no consequences "
Clark gazed into chloe's eye's and then supersped out of the apartment leaving Chloe speechless.. Chloe stood with tears streaming down her face .
What could this mean ?
Why after all this time would clark say this ?
Chloe cried for the love she has always had for him , wanting him , yearning for him.
( read the rest under the adult fan fic on kryptonsite )
pizzaguy19
10-03-2008, 11:00 PM
For guys, there is no "just best friends, forever." Girls fool the guy into thinking it's just a "friend zone for now," and they're *****es like that, but a guy will NEVER be like that forever.
He might fool himself for years, but eventually it's just not going to stay like that. He will either move on or make a move. No exceptions.
(Well if the guy is gay, then he might only move on, but it would be to another guy. And if the girl is ugly, it'll just be a "move on." Depends on how long it takes the guy to grow up.)
27CDruid
10-04-2008, 06:21 AM
Bull! Straight guys can be friends with hot girls without thinking of jumping them. Some straight guys may not have the mental capacity to do so but dont lable us all this way.
dimeo782002
10-04-2008, 08:28 AM
okay everyone i posted part two of my chlark story it's under the same post
Too have and not too hold
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Part two enter Brainiac
it's getting good i don't think you want to miss it and yes it is my second fan fiction. i have been writing like a mad women. here is the link if you areall interested and it is an adult fan fic. enjoy and please leave feed back.
http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=98236
Supermania
10-04-2008, 08:31 AM
I think it will be awesome to have some sort of romantic tension between them and for Chloe to act as Lois's love rival for a time, but I'd like Lois to emerge victor in the end.
ChaosSV
10-06-2008, 11:59 AM
Dont forget me..
i am a BIG Chlarker!!!
4 me Chlark is the best couple in the world..(i dont care if Clark ends up with Lois,Chlark will always be in my heart..)
the plastique scene was cute...
i jumped on my sofa when i saw that and yelled "KISS! KISS! Big Dumb ALien!!!"
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