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Xanderman
09-23-2008, 12:45 AM
Tess to Lois: "I have so been looking forward to meeting the intrepid reporter Lois Lane."
So Lois is basically famous now huh? She's already this great reporter with a reputation like that? When/how did that happen exactly? I must have missed it. Like I missed how Clark was able to get hired on at the Daily Planet at Lois' level by simply submitting an application. heh
Lightswitch development, gotta love it.
SnowBird
09-23-2008, 01:14 AM
I think Tess was being sarcastic about the intrepid part. Being Tess is now running the Planet, she would know Lois is a reporter there....I could be wrong tho so maybe someone else will come up with a better answer.
You didn't miss how Clark got hired at the DP at Lois' level because it hasn't been explained yet. Maybe we will find out this week.
Xanderman
09-23-2008, 01:27 AM
I think Tess was being sarcastic about the intrepid part. Being Tess is now running the Planet, she would know Lois is a reporter there.That's a good explanation. Yeah I guess she was just being sarcastic--of course one day that's really supposed to be a description for Lois ("intrepid reporter", as connected to her "fame") so it was hard to tell if she was being totally sarcastic or if Smallville was doing some lightswitching.
You didn't miss how Clark got hired at the DP at Lois' level because it hasn't been explained yet. Maybe we will find out this week.As long as they explain it I guess....it almost seemed as if they would just leave it this way. Lois just said "You gotta be kidding me" to herself, and then smiled (as if in acceptance). The way they did it it sort of seems like they're going to just leave it at that and move on. But you could be right....as others have speculated they may connect it to a favor from Perry White in some way.
Fallen One
09-23-2008, 01:49 AM
Tess to Lois: "I have so been looking forward to meeting the intrepid reporter Lois Lane."
So Lois is basically famous now huh? She's already this great reporter with a reputation like that? When/how did that happen exactly? I must have missed it. Like I missed how Clark was able to get hired on at the Daily Planet at Lois' level by simply submitting an application. heh
Lightswitch development, gotta love it.
Gotta love the lightswitch claims. You're going to feel a little embarassed when I reveal this to you.
Do you know what intrepid means? It means bold, brave, fearless. It means nothing about fame, greatness, or your level of success in your field of work. Nothing at all.
Now that the definition is known. I ask, does intrepid not describe Lois Lane to a tee? Unless your claiming that she isn't bold, brave, and fearless this lightswitch thread is de-bunked. Because I can name plenty of times she shows just how bold and in-your-face she is.
Tess was spot on in what she called Lois. Lois was intrepid from the moment she stepped on Smallville. Before she was a reporter, and after she became a reporter.
Titch22
09-23-2008, 01:59 AM
Gotta love the lightswitch claims.
Do you know what intrepid means? It means bold, brave, fearless. It means nothing about fame, greatness, or your level of success in your field of work. Absolutely nothing.
Intrepid describes Lois Lane to a tee. Unless you can name cases where isn't bold, brave, and fearless consider this lightswitch thread de-bunked. Because I can name plenty.
Tess was spot on in what she called Lois.
Totally agree.
About Clark could his past assoaiation with Lex also have gotten him the job. Lex owns the company and what better way to keep an eye on him right? :confused:
Theshadow129x
09-23-2008, 02:00 AM
yea lightswitching works wonders for characters
Fallen One
09-23-2008, 02:07 AM
yea lightswitching works wonders for characters
Well you gotta be fearless to jump 20 feet in the air and expect a guy to catch you. Because unless you weigh 50 lbs I'm running the hell away.
Cheerleaders are plenty intrepid though, thats a good example.
RedKRules
09-23-2008, 06:28 AM
Tess to Lois: "I have so been looking forward to meeting the intrepid reporter Lois Lane."
So Lois is basically famous now huh? She's already this great reporter with a reputation like that? When/how did that happen exactly? I must have missed it. Like I missed how Clark was able to get hired on at the Daily Planet at Lois' level by simply submitting an application. heh
Lightswitch development, gotta love it.
You are not the only one ..... I was thinking about the same thing ..... as long as it lines up! They don't give a crap about development ... just turn on the LIGHT! there Clark is a reporter !! What a joke! :lol::lol: a good one of course!;)
----- Added 6 Minutes later -----
That's a good explanation. Yeah I guess she was just being sarcastic--of course one day that's really supposed to be a description for Lois ("intrepid reporter", as connected to her "fame") so it was hard to tell if she was being totally sarcastic or if Smallville was doing some lightswitching.
Good point!
Sweetie
09-23-2008, 07:20 AM
What did you expect exactly?That Lois would remained that goofy woman forever?That was AL/Gough's fault,they changed the Lois's character and gave her real personality to a character who wasn't even in the mytho and they transformed CK into a wimp with no ambition.Those new producers & writters are trying to fix the mess that they did the best that they can now.
DontCha
09-23-2008, 07:22 AM
yeah i saw it as sarcasm..she's not quite there yet
But she is getting a reputation which is why tess was sarcastic. Tess is dismissing her, what an idiot lol
Tacitus
09-23-2008, 08:07 AM
That's not the impression I got. I think Tess was turned on by the French maid outfit Lois was wearing. Or maybe I'm just seeing things I wish were there :D
individuall
09-23-2008, 08:13 AM
Maybe that line was in there to be a 'shout out' to other superman media where Lois is famous for being an 'intrepid' reporter...Which doesn't necessarily mean she's famous yet in SV....Because as FO stated 'intrepid' has nothing to do with being well known etc....But Lois Lane is famous for being called the 'intrepid reporter'....
Does that make sense?... Anyway that's my 0.02 on the subject.
Kalista
09-23-2008, 08:19 AM
It means bold, brave, fearless.
Yes, ED's character boldly, bravely, and fearlessly took on that taser. LOL
RedKRules
09-23-2008, 09:30 AM
What did you expect exactly?That Lois would remained that goofy woman forever?That was AL/Gough's fault,they changed the Lois's character and gave her real personality to a character who wasn't even in the mytho and they transformed CK into a wimp with no ambition.Those new producers & writters are trying to fix the mess that they did the best that they can now.
Heyy!! Better late than never right!!??;)
Twitch
09-23-2008, 10:15 AM
That's not the impression I got. I think Tess was turned on by the French maid outfit Lois was wearing. Or maybe I'm just seeing things I wish were there :D
Ding ding ding! We have a winner!
ginnyfan
09-23-2008, 10:19 AM
I think Tess knew Lois Lane, not because of her journalism... but as a thorn in Lex Luthor's side. She's underestimating her... not admiring her.
Underestimating Lois Lane is not a good idea.
FlashInSV
09-23-2008, 11:27 AM
I suppose Tess was just trying to get under her skin with the intrepid characterization. Don't forget, Tess is Lex's...uh...what is she again? Oh, yeah, he was her mentor or something, anyway, if Tess and Lex had off-screen time all those past seasons it's only reasonable to think that he mentioned his relationship with the press. I think Lex may have brought Lois Lane up -not as a threat, because he thought she was not capable of writing a story against him.
Hopefulsuicide
09-23-2008, 04:52 PM
Gotta love the lightswitch claims. You're going to feel a little embarassed when I reveal this to you.
Do you know what intrepid means? It means bold, brave, fearless. It means nothing about fame, greatness, or your level of success in your field of work. Nothing at all.
Now that the definition is known. I ask, does intrepid not describe Lois Lane to a tee? Unless your claiming that she isn't bold, brave, and fearless this lightswitch thread is de-bunked. Because I can name plenty of times she shows just how bold and in-your-face she is.
Tess was spot on in what she called Lois. Lois was intrepid from the moment she stepped on Smallville. Before she was a reporter, and after she became a reporter.
just gotta say, yes LOIS does fit the characteristics fairly well of being intrepid
i'm not sure if she fits it in terms of being and intrepid REPORTER... and there is a differance
she has shown boldness, bravery and fearlessness outside of her journalistic work, but have we actually seen her tackle a story in that fashion... IMO no... she's sort of gone after Lex cause he offended her, but not in a bold way if you ask me... Chloe is a much more intrepid REPORTER in those terms
Tatiana
09-23-2008, 05:02 PM
Tess to Lois: "I have so been looking forward to meeting the intrepid reporter Lois Lane."
So Lois is basically famous now huh? She's already this great reporter with a reputation like that? When/how did that happen exactly? I must have missed it. Like I missed how Clark was able to get hired on at the Daily Planet at Lois' level by simply submitting an application. heh
Lightswitch development, gotta love it.
I am assuming she knew about Lois because of Lex, if he left instructions for her on everything, why wouldn't he let her know about Lois, that has always been after him. As far as Clark being on her level, well doesn't seem so hard since she is still on the basemenet level hehe, she doesn't have an office or moved up in the building. We'll see how they explain it :-p
Xanderman
09-23-2008, 05:44 PM
Gotta love the lightswitch claims. You're going to feel a little embarassed when I reveal this to you.
Do you know what intrepid means? It means bold, brave, fearless. It means nothing about fame, greatness, or your level of success in your field of work. Nothing at all.
Now that the definition is known. I ask, does intrepid not describe Lois Lane to a tee? Unless your claiming that she isn't bold, brave, and fearless this lightswitch thread is de-bunked. Because I can name plenty of times she shows just how bold and in-your-face she is.
Tess was spot on in what she called Lois. Lois was intrepid from the moment she stepped on Smallville. Before she was a reporter, and after she became a reporter.Lol I know what intrepid means..:lol: You sort of totally misread/misunderstood what I was trying to say. I was referring to the fact that when Lois is truly a "famous" reporter (in other incarnations), this is how she is known/described (like in comics/movies/wherever, I'm not sure the exact origin). I don't believe we've seen enough to qualify this fame on SV. While it was sarcasm (with the terminology an obvious shoutout to comics/whatever), at the same time it felt like they were also attempting to "accelerate" Lois into this famous future--which to me is basically lightswitch treatment. And it sort of makes sense that they would do a jump like this especially considering Clark is suddenly going to be working side by side with her (another lightswitch). We all know from other material that Lois is already supposed to be this famed "intrepid reporter" by the time Clark joins the Daily Planet, and Clark then has "catching up to do", being initially in her shadow. It looks to me that the new powers-that-be are just accelerating things so that they can have their "dream" season in Metropolis, with everyone and everything right where they want (or need) them to be to tell the stories they want.
You are not the only one ..... I was thinking about the same thing ..... as long as it lines up! They don't give a crap about development ... just turn on the LIGHT! there Clark is a reporter !! What a joke! :lol::lol: a good one of course!;)
Lol yeah as long as it basically lines up in the end, that's ultimately what matters to them.
I am assuming she knew about Lois because of Lex, if he left instructions for her on everything, why wouldn't he let her know about Lois, that has always been after him. As far as Clark being on her level, well doesn't seem so hard since she is still on the basemenet level hehe, she doesn't have an office or moved up in the building. We'll see how they explain it :-pYeah I understand this type of argument, however as I said above I ultimately see the line as serving somewhat of a dual role in accelerating Lois to where they want/need or to be---especially seeing as Clark is now working with her (they need certain dynamics in place).
Fallen One
09-23-2008, 05:51 PM
just gotta say, yes LOIS does fit the characteristics fairly well of being intrepid
i'm not sure if she fits it in terms of being and intrepid REPORTER... and there is a differance
she has shown boldness, bravery and fearlessness outside of her journalistic work, but have we actually seen her tackle a story in that fashion... IMO no... she's sort of gone after Lex cause he offended her, but not in a bold way if you ask me... Chloe is a much more intrepid REPORTER in those terms
How can you say that with a straight face?
First, Chloe isn't even a reporter anymore. She's an entrepreneur.
And secondly Chloe rarely goes into any dangerous situation unless Clark is with her to protect her, and even when he is there to protect her sometimes she still stays behind and works behind a computer while Clark goes and does his thing.
And if not Clark, she usually has someone there to back her up in case she needs help because she isn't much of a physical fighter. Take the scene in Siren for instance. At the first sign of trouble Chloe ran out of there faster than a race horse while BC chased after her to the rooftop. You think Lois would have ran? She would have given BC everything she could handle and more. She would have stood there and fought fist to fist. Lois is fearless, to a fought sometimes. No one intimidates her. Not even Lex.
Chloe had an expose on Lex ready to go in Progeny, what happened? Lex intimidated her, and threatened her. And what did she do? She dropped the expose asap, then ran and told Clark. Do think Lois would have dropped her story if Lex threatened to make her life hell? She would have laughed and published it anyways. Was Lois in any way intimidated by Lex all of last season?
Lois goes into Luthorcorp facilities alone, with no one to rely on but herself and her own fighting prowress. In Odyssey she just went into Luthorcorp facility, with no backup to save Chloe. In Phantom she goes into Reeves dam, another Luthorcorp building, even when Chloe told her it was too dangerous. Alone. And she went there to get to the bottom line of a story. She went there for journalistic reasons. But whether its for a story or not.. she goes alone because she is bold like that.
Why was she following Lex in Fracture? For a story. Did she leave when Lex told her not to? No.. because she's fearless. When she gets into story she doesn't stop until she gets to the truth of it. Same thing in Combat, she wanted the scoop on the story and she still went down to that underground cage fighting facility.
"Lois you're like a pitpull on a pant leg. You'll never going to let this go until you know for sure"
"I hate that you know me like that".
^^ A clois talk in Hydro. Thats Lois Lane, reporter AND woman. Intrepid, always.
It doesn't matter to me that Lois isn't loved by everyone, but you are going to have to come stronger than that. If anyone wants to claim Lois Lane is not an intrepid reporter, come with some facts. On the show cannon that proves otherwise.
Again, this is debunked.
Kevin24
09-23-2008, 06:03 PM
How can you say that with a straight face?
First, Chloe isn't even a reporter anymore. She's an entrepreneur.
And secondly Chloe rarely goes into any dangerous situation unless Clark is with her to protect her, and even when he is there to protect her sometimes she still stays behind and works behind a computer while Clark goes and does his thing.
And if not Clark, she usually has someone there to back her up in case she needs help because she isn't much of a physical fighter. Take the scene in Siren for instance. At the first sign of trouble Chloe ran out of there faster than a race horse while BC chased after her to the rooftop. You think Lois would have ran? She would have given BC everything she could handle and more. She would have stood there and fought fist to fist. Lois is fearless, to a fought sometimes. No one intimidates her. Not even Lex.
Chloe had an expose on Lex ready to go in Progeny, what happened? Lex intimidated her, and threatened her. And what did she do? She dropped the expose asap, then ran and told Clark. Do think Lois would have dropped her story if Lex threatened to make her life hell? She would have laughed and published it anyways. Was Lois in any way intimidated by Lex all of last season?
Lois goes into Luthorcorp facilities alone, with no one to rely on but herself and her own fighting prowress. In Odyssey she just went into Luthorcorp facility, with no backup to save Chloe. In Phantom she goes into Reeves dam, another Luthorcorp building, even when Chloe told her it was too dangerous. Alone. And she went there to get to the bottom line of a story. She went there for journalistic reasons. But whether its for a story or not.. she goes alone because she is bold like that.
Why was she following Lex in Fracture? For a story. Did she leave when Lex told her not to? No.. because she's fearless. When she gets into story she doesn't stop until she gets to the truth of it. Same thing in Combat, she wanted the scoop on the story and she still went down to that underground cage fighting facility.
"Lois you're like a pitpull on a pant leg. You'll never going to let this go until you know for sure"
"I hate that you know me like that".
^^ A clois talk in Hydro. Thats Lois Lane, reporter AND woman. Intrepid, always.
It doesn't matter to me that Lois isn't loved by everyone, but you are going to have to come stronger than that. If anyone wants to claim Lois Lane is not an intrepid reporter, come with some facts. On the show cannon that proves otherwise.
Again, this is debunked.
*high five* good post!!!!:lol:
Hopefulsuicide
09-23-2008, 06:04 PM
Lois goes into Luthorcorp facilities alone, with no one to rely on but herself and her own fighting prowress. In Odyssey she just went into Luthorcorp facility, with no backup to save Chloe. In Phantom she goes into Reeves dam, another Luthorcorp building, even when Chloe told her it was too dangerous. Alone. And she went there to get to the bottom line of a story. She went there for journalistic reasons. But whether its for a story or not.. she goes alone because she is bold like that.
Why was she following Lex in Fracture? For a story. Did she leave when Lex told her not to? No.. because she's fearless. When she gets into story she doesn't stop until she gets to the truth of it. Same thing in Combat, she wanted the scoop on the story and she still went down to that underground cage fighting facility.
"Lois you're like a pitpull on a pant leg. You'll never going to let this go until you know for sure"
"I hate that you know me like that".
^^ A clois talk in Hydro. Thats Lois Lane, reporter AND woman. Intrepid, always.
It doesn't matter to me that Lois isn't loved by everyone, but you are going to have to come stronger than that. If anyone wants to claim Lois Lane is not an intrepid reporter, come with some facts. On the show cannon that proves otherwise.
Again, this is debunked.
I do Love Lois Lane, Teri Hatcher's version is my idol... like what i base my entire life around trying to be
while i don't find ED's/Smallville's Lois compares to this character nearly enough, actually i feel you have proven your point here, so i retract saying she wasn't intrepid in a journalistic way
i generally get the feeling on Smallville that Lois doesn't work very hard as a reporter, partially because she didnt work very hard to get where she is, and partially because she seems to breeze through it...
i mean you have given me examples of her doing brave things, so yeah i guess your right... but it reminds me of something i read in a book once... 'bravery is being afraid but doing it anyway'... and it just doesnt feel like that with ED's lois... it's like it's nothing to her
but yeah, anyway, i take it back, you win that one :lol: cause i can't argue back to it
geminis
09-23-2008, 08:19 PM
On the contrary, I think Lois on Smallville is having to work hard as a reporter. We just haven't seen it (I know, the wonderful world of offscreensville). Grant Gabriel offered her the position, but she has still had to produce material, otherwise she'd be long gone. And 'she seems to breeze through the work?' Well, in time Lois (not Clark) does win a Pulitzer, something that is pretty difficult to do, so the cake stuff that she'd be working on now probably would be fairly easy for her.
And Lois, being brave, doing brave things. Well, the action is not a problem for Lois; that's Lois, leap first and maybe look later. It's the emotional stuff that is challenging for her. She hates letting the walls down, dealing with sad, admitting feelings. But she gives hints of letting her guard down with Clark. "She's afraid, but she does it anyway."
That's a different kind of bravery and just as risky.
kryptonaidxh
09-23-2008, 08:51 PM
:Dsorry tu burst the bubble of envy people, but I donīt find an ironic context in Tess īs words.
Lois Lane has always been known as the INTREPID, BRAVE, and BRILLIANT reporter of the Daily Planet, thatīs why sheīs still there, and not Chloe, remember that Loisīs cousin is not an original character, Lois is part of the mythos and sheīs going to be someday the star reporter of the Daily Planet.:D
mistaguitarmasta
09-24-2008, 07:18 AM
Yeah, but she's not there yet. At this point Lois has only been working there for a year or less. And she's still in the basement. She clearly hasn't earned her reputation quite yet. I agree that Tess was being sarcastic. She obviously knows who Lois is because of her position as acting owner of the DP, and she probably has some idea that she was an annoyance to Lex.
Xanderman
09-24-2008, 12:37 PM
^Right, Lois is NOT "famous" famous yet. This is the point I'm trying to make. As such, Tess' line to me was, at least in part, a way to "accelerate" the character of Lois to make her line up with the classic interpretation. As I said, now that Clark is suddenly a reporter too, if they are going by the classic story to some degree, Lois needs to be ahead of Clark in the reporting game, with the experience and "fame" to back it. How well known is she in the journalism world really? How many "big stories" does she have under her belt? From the classic dymanic I'm used to (movies/Lois&Clark), Lois is basically already a "seasoned pro" by the time Clark arrives (even though she's still relatively young). She's already a "top dog" journalistically speaking, and Clark has to prove himself. Smallville seems to be fast-forwarding things (with Lois, and now with Clark) to make their "Lois/Clark in Metropolis" dream season work. Just how I see it.
Storm45
09-24-2008, 02:26 PM
Yes Lois isn't famous, as in not being in the field enough and wrote big stories, to earn awide reputation.
I think Tess must have heard of Lois actions through Lex and as a top LutherCorp insider. I think it's more a tongue-in-cheek shout-out to the mythos.
As for bringing Chloe in all this which is unevitable, she's been called ''intrepid'' right from the start in the Pilot: ''Clark, you'll have to excuse our intrepid reporter''. Or maybe the writers didn't know what intrepid meant.
I could make a list of examples of Chloe being intrepid but I don't feel like it, it's not the topic of this thread and Chloe have nothing to prove anymore in this area after 8 years.
blackcelebration
09-24-2008, 02:27 PM
Light switch? flip switch? Body switch? I'll take any kind of switch as long as it doesn't involve Clark switching back to Lana. :D
Xanderman
09-24-2008, 02:45 PM
Yes Lois isn't famous, as in not being in the field enough and wrote big stories, to earn wide reputation.
I think Tess must have heard of Lois actions through Lex and as top LutherCorp insider. I think it's more a tongue-in-cheek shout-out to the mythos.Agreed, however just having such a line said aloud was enough to partially "validate" (in an el cheapo "lightswitch" sorta way) the idea that Lois is this "super reporter" already, which in my view was so that they could more firmly establish a somewhat classical "Lois&Clark at the DP" dynamic, where Lois is "big league", and Clark is, well, "Smallville".
Routh
09-24-2008, 02:59 PM
^Right, Lois is NOT "famous" famous yet. This is the point I'm trying to make.
Xanderman, I have to continue to ask; do you know the definition of "intrepid?" They are by no means trying to say that Lois is "famous," but that she's FEARLESS. And that she is. A newbie reporter with nothing under their belt can be an intrepid reporter. I really don't get what you're getting at here.
Xanderman
09-24-2008, 03:21 PM
Xanderman, I have to continue to ask; do you know the definition of "intrepid?" They are by no means trying to say that Lois is "famous," but that she's FEARLESS. And that she is. A newbie reporter with nothing under their belt can be an intrepid reporter. I really don't get what you're getting at here.You apparently don't quite understand the point I'm making...please reread my previous few posts. I thought I made it clear.
ginnyfan
09-24-2008, 09:03 PM
^Right, Lois is NOT "famous" famous yet. This is the point I'm trying to make. As such, Tess' line to me was, at least in part, a way to "accelerate" the character of Lois to make her line up with the classic interpretation. As I said, now that Clark is suddenly a reporter too, if they are going by the classic story to some degree, Lois needs to be ahead of Clark in the reporting game, with the experience and "fame" to back it. How well known is she in the journalism world really? How many "big stories" does she have under her belt? From the classic dymanic I'm used to (movies/Lois&Clark), Lois is basically already a "seasoned pro" by the time Clark arrives (even though she's still relatively young). She's already a "top dog" journalistically speaking, and Clark has to prove himself.
I hope that's not what they are trying to do. If so they've failed. We all know Lois has only been there a year. And Lois Lane is in the basement of the Daily Planet. Certainly NOT a seasoned pro.
Lois is more experienced than Clark though... and Tess' line doesn't add or take away to that. So... again... ineffectual toward the goal you mention. They are rookies together. I think the scenario from the classic scene where Perry assigns Clark to be Lois' partner... to her displeasure... will happen later and probably not on SV.
Khyla
09-25-2008, 06:36 AM
Xanderman, I have to continue to ask; do you know the definition of "intrepid?" They are by no means trying to say that Lois is "famous," but that she's FEARLESS. And that she is. A newbie reporter with nothing under their belt can be an intrepid reporter. I really don't get what you're getting at here.
I don't think it's the word "intrepid", but more like the rest of Tess' sentence: "I have so been looking forward to meeting the intrepid reporter Lois Lane."
The words that are underlined and in italics are the ones that make it appear that Lois has some kind of reputation, which has been shown to us, the viewers, but has never been show to the people of Metropolis. Perhaps she got a little reputation with the employees at the DP from her little escapade with the former editor, but Tess would only know anything else about her from Lex at this point.
so i have to agree with ginnyfan and Storm here:
I hope that's not what they are trying to do. If so they've failed. We all know Lois has only been there a year. And Lois Lane is in the basement of the Daily Planet. Certainly NOT a seasoned pro.
Yes Lois isn't famous, as in not being in the field enough and wrote big stories, to earn wide reputation.
I think Tess must have heard of Lois actions through Lex and as top LutherCorp insider. I think it's more a tongue-in-cheek shout-out to the mythos.
I think Tess knew Lois Lane, not because of her journalism... but as a thorn in Lex Luthor's side. ...Those explanations make more sense.
As for bringing Chloe in all this which is unevitable, she's been called ''intrepid'' right from the start in the Pilot: ''Clark, you'll have to excuse our intrepid reporter''. Or maybe the writers did'nt know what intrepid meant.
I could make a list of examples Chloe being intrepid but I don't feel like it, it's not the topic of this thread and Chloe have anything to prove in this area after 8 years.
off the top of my head: TRUTH, HYDRO, HOTHEAD, JINX, BLANK, EXPOSED, SOLITUDE
What did you expect exactly?That Lois would remained that goofy woman forever?That was AL/Gough's fault,they changed the Lois's character and gave her real personality to a character who wasn't even in the mytho ...
Those new producers & writters are trying to fix the mess that they did the best that they can now.
i think their "mess" was quite intentional, and I don't really see any signs of the new ones "fixing" it. I mean, c'mon, if you're going to disguise yourself as a maid, don't go in a Halloween costume complete with high heels :rolleyes: (talk about ridiculous!)
RedKRules
09-25-2008, 06:46 AM
I could make a list of examples Chloe being intrepid but I don't feel like it, it's not the topic of this thread and Chloe have anything to prove in this aera after 8 years.
I totally agree with you! Chloe can be called The Inteprid Reporter with no sarcasm behind it! ;)
ginnyfan
09-25-2008, 09:19 AM
Well... Chloe's not a reporter currently. Maybe former intrepid reporter. And if Tess knew of her as a famous seasoned journalist it would be just as miraculous. Since Chloe did most of her stellar Journalism at Smallville High School. And was still in the basement at the DP. LOL!
And Lois has shown daring do in pursuit of stories: Combat, Facade, Her Green Arrow Story over several episodes, going after Lex all of season seven... just to name a few. I don't think she's done enough to earn a wide reputation. And I don't think the show intends for Lois and Clark as an investigative team RIGHT NOW to be equivalent to where they will be in the future under Perry White as editor. I don't think that's their intention. Right now they are showing Lois and Clark as newbies.
I agree with Fallen One that intrepid reporter would apply to Lois Lane. But in this case, Tess was not saying it admiringly, nor was she saying it as though Lois Lane were infamous. I don't think many viewers would jump to that conclusion (that Tess was admiring a famous seasoned veteran Reporter) unless Odyssey was the first Smallville episode they'd watched.
Xanderman
09-26-2008, 12:09 PM
I don't think it's the word "intrepid", but more like the rest of Tess' sentence: "I have so been looking forward to meeting the intrepid reporter Lois Lane."
The words that are underlined and in italics are the ones that make it appear that Lois has some kind of reputation, which has been shown to us, the viewers, but has never been show to the people of Metropolis. Perhaps she got a little reputation with the employees at the DP from her little escapade with the former editor, but Tess would only know anything else about her from Lex at this point.That's right, I'm talking about a widely known reputation, which that line from Tess sort of alludes to to a degree (likely done to artificially "raise" viewer impression of Lois Lane as a reporter since she and CK are together now), especially with the use of that particular description for "Lois Lane the reporter", which in other incarnations is used when she IS widely known/famous.
I don't think she's done enough to earn a wide reputation. And I don't think the show intends for Lois and Clark as an investigative team RIGHT NOW to be equivalent to where they will be in the future under Perry White as editor. I don't think that's their intention. Right now they are showing Lois and Clark as newbies.
Agreed, especially after seeing the second episode, where we see that Lois is still pretty much a nobody (no major widely recognized accomplishments) and yet somehow has an extraordinarily high opinion of herself and her abilities. lol
Khyla
09-27-2008, 02:06 PM
That's right, I'm talking about a widely known reputation, which that line from Tess sort of alludes to to a degree (likely done to artificially "raise" viewer impression of Lois Lane as a reporter since she and CK are together now), ...
Agreed, especially after seeing the second episode, where we see that Lois is still pretty much a nobody (no major widely recognized accomplishments) and yet somehow has an extraordinarily high opinion of herself and her abilities. lol
Another thing that just came out of left field was her line to Clark about 'Most of us started out writing want-ads.'
Excuse Me?....Since when? .....Who is she talking about? .....Definitely not herself (although that's the implication),
They are basically replacing her reporter history of starting out with a FrontPage article in the Inquisitor! ? ..... Oh , I get it they couldn't find a new actress to play this new model of LL so they're still using Erica but she's a different person than the one with the same name that we've been exposed to for several years.:confused: (now those lines would have made sense if it was Chloe saying them.....:\)
ginnyfan
09-27-2008, 02:18 PM
and yet somehow has an extraordinarily high opinion of herself and her abilities. lol
That's Lois Lane. The girl who, at nineteen, took on Lionel Luthor, the FBI and the military in "Crusade." High opinion of her abilities indeed.
ETA: Oh! And she unknowingly bullied a super powered alien. LOL!
RedKRules
09-27-2008, 03:48 PM
I donīt think Lois is The Inteprid Reporter yet, but hopefuly she will get there someday!
Xanderman
09-27-2008, 04:10 PM
Another thing that just came out of left field was her line to Clark about 'Most of us started out writing want-ads.'
Excuse Me?....Since when? .....Who is she talking about? .....Definitely not herself (although that's the implication),
They are basically replacing her reporter history of starting out with a FrontPage article in the Inquisitor! ? ..... Oh , I get it they couldn't find a new actress to play this new model of LL so they're still using Erica but she's a different person than the one with the same name that we've been exposed to for several years.:confused: (now those lines would have made sense if it was Chloe saying them.....:\)It all definitely seemed off to me as well. Lois really hasn't had much of a history at all at the DP but this season's Smallville would have us believing otherwise. Light goes on, light goes off. Light goes on, light goes off. Writing a tv show is as easy as a flicking a switch it would seem. heh
That's Lois Lane. The girl who, at nineteen, took on Lionel Luthor, the FBI and the military in "Crusade." High opinion of her abilities indeed.Lol, not really arguing the "intrepid/brave/risk taking" side of Lois being developed on SV, it's more the "journalist" side. I mean Chloe's been into investigative journalism/writing for years and years, then Lois comes along, and bang she's suddenly Chloe's better in all the ways that matter apparently. If Lois is so totally into adventure/living dangerously, she should have just gone into law enforcement/the military. I mean the whole "super spy" stuff we've seen from her is such an over exaggeration of what reporters actually do. But of course compared to what they did to Lana Lang over the years, this "Lois Lane evolution" is 100% believable. heh
I donīt think Lois is The Inteprid Reporter yet, but hopefuly she will get there someday!She's off to a less than honorable start, she's already stealing from Clark to get ahead and it doesn't even phase her, lol. Instead of becoming a "great reporter" all on her own, apparently she becomes one by sacrificing little things like integrity right from the very start, and by needing someone else's (Clark's) help. At least in the movies/Lois&Clark, Lois Lane was basically already an established journalist by the time Clark came into the picture. But with Smallville, it seems "Mr. Behind-the-Scenes" Clark Kent himself will be a big reason for her future fame. Lois apparently doesn't get there on her own.
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