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Alexander III
09-18-2008, 07:28 PM
Clark working at the Daily Planet, it's about damn time!! Clark and Lois will be seeing each other more often now, does it also mean clois will finally happen? Anywayz Clark, welcome to the Daily Planet!

ClarkyBoy14
09-18-2008, 07:31 PM
I know, it's great. I can tell that the Clark and Lois DP stuff is going to be REALLY fun to watch this season.

CountryGirl84
09-18-2008, 07:31 PM
I sure hope so!! I've been waiting ages for Clois! And with a new Superman movie not even remotely on the horizon Smallville is my only hope!

(Hey Alexander good to see you, I haven't been on in ages! Tonight's episode snagged me back in haha :) )

thehenry89
09-18-2008, 07:32 PM
can't wait to see what happens for the rest of the season with those two.

WickedJenn
09-18-2008, 07:33 PM
Clark working at the Daily Planet, it's about damn time!! Clark and Lois will be seeing each other more often now, does it also mean clois will finally happen? Anywayz Clark, welcome to the Daily Planet!

So even though you hated the premiere as a whole, I'm glad you liked that part! I sure did ;)

Alexander III
09-18-2008, 07:39 PM
I sure hope so!! I've been waiting ages for Clois! And with a new Superman movie not even remotely on the horizon Smallville is my only hope!

(Hey Alexander good to see you, I haven't been on in ages! Tonight's episode snagged me back in haha :) )

Good to see u too my fellow Canadian buddy! Funny thing is that I didn't even know the premere was today!! I was watching a baseball game and got bored, then turned to another channel and saw Chloe talking and I'm like...ah...wut da heck is this? :confused:

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So even though you hated the premiere as a whole, I'm glad you liked that part! I sure did ;)

Yea I hated it but I can't hate watching Clark facing his final true destiny - the Journalistman! Plus, this might be a sign of Clois, and I just found out I'm a Clois fan :lol:

Meteror Freak
09-18-2008, 07:48 PM
I don't mean to make people angry, but I was just wondering how Clark got the job when all he's ever done is help Chloe at the school newspaper with a half of year of college. That aside, I'm really glad that Clark got the job and I'm looking forward to all the clois at the daily planet.

WickedJenn
09-18-2008, 07:49 PM
Yea I hated it but I can't hate watching Clark facing his final true destiny - the Journalistman! Plus, this might be a sign of Clois, and I just found out I'm a Clois fan :lol:

Well then, I *definitely* can't argue with that :D

redeem147
09-18-2008, 07:50 PM
I'm so glad they've finally moved out of the farm and into the office. It was time. It was time two years ago.

This feels like Superman to me.

abbaspice1
09-18-2008, 07:52 PM
I'm glad he is letting the farm go! And moving on with his life.

Near death experiences can make people move on and realize what is important.

TECHWON
09-18-2008, 07:52 PM
well we've been waiting for this for eight seasons and four since clark left high school and what happened to him finishing college huh but anyway this will be fun season and hopefully won't drag like season 5 or 6 did

CountryGirl84
09-18-2008, 08:01 PM
Good to see u too my fellow Canadian buddy! Funny thing is that I didn't even know the premere was today!! I was watching a baseball game and got bored, then turned to another channel and saw Chloe talking and I'm like...ah...wut da heck is this? :confused:

OMG :rotfl: the SAME thing happened to me tonight! I was watching some cartoons online and i was like *sigh* maybe there's something on tv and there it was. So i only saw the end half but apparently that was the good half because a lot of people seem disappointed by it and I thought it was pretty decent.

Alexander III
09-18-2008, 08:07 PM
well we've been waiting for this for eight seasons and four since clark left high school and what happened to him finishing college huh but anyway this will be fun season and hopefully won't drag like season 5 or 6 did

About him finishing college...did he even finish it, did he even attend classes? He's the 2nd biggest class skipper I'd ever seen in my whole life (he's 2nd, I'm 1st!)

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OMG :rotfl: the SAME thing happened to me tonight! I was watching some cartoons online and i was like *sigh* maybe there's something on tv and there it was. So i only saw the end half but apparently that was the good half because a lot of people seem disappointed by it and I thought it was pretty decent.

The only thing amused me in this episode is the Clois scenes - typical Clois storylines where they dissed each other to the end, and also the funniest part of the episode is where Clark was dying and kept flashing back to his memories of the closest ppl he knows, and OMG Manhunter's face suddenly pops up in his memory and I'm like...um Clark, u missed him THAT MUCH?

CountryGirl84
09-18-2008, 08:30 PM
haha yeah I thought the MM popping in there was strange too and then I realized we were back in the present and away from the Clana flashbacks. I would have been happier if they had focused on Jonathan like they did in the comic books when Clark was dying but perhaps there is too much clana under the bridge... excuse me water under the bridge for that. I feel like this Clark has gotten so far from his roots and yet gone no where. I hope the end of this episode is indication Clark really is going somewhere. I've gotten my hopes up so many times though...

Jade4813
09-18-2008, 10:00 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All I've got to say about that!

vyperman7
09-18-2008, 11:55 PM
Clark becoming a reporter in Smallville has come down to Lois handing Clark an application? Talk about lightswitching. For once, I agree with Lois. I say that Clark belongs in the mailroom. It would be much better to show Clark wanting to branch out and work his way up, instead of just handing him the job with no experience or college degree. I want to see Clark earn the position, especially since he has shown no interest in journalism in the past. By making Clark a lower level employee at the DP, we could still get some development and it would give Clark time to work on his dual identity. Clark starts out in the mailroom, and begins to realize that he wants to do something more and takes an interest in reporting. He uses his "inside info" on the person saving the day to land an article that impresses Tess and convinces her to make Clark a reporter. Then we get to see him be partnered up with Lois. Clark becoming a reporter this easily kind of cheapens the whole experience in my opinion.

Compare it to Chloe's situation..

She is the editor of her high school paper all four years and writes a column for the DP. Then when she interviews just to try and get her foot in the door, she is told to bring in a good story to proove that she belongs. Chloe busts her ass to bring in the story, and then she ends up in the basement. The hiring process was much more realistic and as viewers we could still see why Chloe deserved to work at the DP with all the years of development. I find it a bit unfair that the DP would give a reporting gig to a farm kid that has no experience or degree. I guess their hiring policies have eased up. :D Imagine how Chloe is going to feel when she hears that Clark got hired on as a reporter.

superspider02
09-19-2008, 12:03 AM
Actually he did have an interest in journalism for awhile here and there between seasons 1-4 but then it was totally droped off after johnathn died and he stoped going to school. I said this before it sucks they(al/miles) totally dropped his interest in journalism and didnt have him like working at the smallville ledger or trying to get an internship at the planet/inquister(spelling?) and then now have him at the planet. But lightswitching him is pretty much the only option PS3 had to do cause of the shalling al/miles did since season 5.

vyperman7
09-19-2008, 12:05 AM
They didn't have to lightswitch though. They could have had him start out in the mailroom just to get his foot in the door. Then Clark begins to realize he wants to do something more. You see him use his inside knowledge to write an article that impresses Tess enough to make him a reporter. The time could also be spent letting Clark practice on his dual identity enough so that he could deal with Lois a bit easier as well.

I just wanted to see the process of Clark growing into reporting and what got him in as Lois Lane's partner.

znz212
09-19-2008, 12:08 AM
Well, Perry White did say he owed Clark a favour...

ClareKent
09-19-2008, 12:10 AM
And I though Lois' got her job too easy...at least she had been working for The Inquisitor a time and had actually write some articles...but Clark...I mean, he suddenly decide that it was time to move on, he fills the application and gets choose?...ok all this just makes me feel sorry for the poor Chloe who had to work really hard her way up to The Planet just to get fired by Lex.

LKent113
09-19-2008, 12:12 AM
I personally think its about time. The writers already took a different aprroach to the superman mytho already by introducing Lex at the beginning, Lois already knowing Clark before the planet, etc. so he got a foot in the door pre superman, I am ok with it...like Clark said, it'll keep him in the action, plus maybe this is the push he needs to see all that is going on to lead him to the realization that the world needs a hero, he is starting to realize it, but this is a good push

LKent113
09-19-2008, 12:20 AM
WOOHOO!! about time

vyperman7
09-19-2008, 12:20 AM
Well, Perry White did say he owed Clark a favour...

Perry has nothing to do with it though. He isn't editor and chief. Tess is currently running things, and in Smallville's timeline Perry White was an alcoholic burnout that used to be a big reporter. Now if Perry was the E&C of the DP, then it would be great to bring up the fact that Perry owes Clark one.

However, Perry isn't in the picture, so he has nothing to do with it.

origin
09-19-2008, 12:30 AM
yes, about time!!:D

smallvillefreak24
09-19-2008, 01:59 PM
I really like they will finally work together at the DP but i wish chloe could share in her dream and that those three had any kind of journalism education cuz it seems unlikely they could all just work there basically out of high school journalism

Jade4813
09-19-2008, 02:11 PM
I wish they could have had a more gradual progression there, but there wasn't much to be done about it. They'd dropped the ball for a few years there, so it was either get him in there now or never get him there at all.

I'd have liked it to be handled differently, but I appreciate that PS3 recognized they can't stall Clark any longer. Sadly, you can't change the past to make up for mistakes; you just have to keep moving forward.

citizenlen
09-19-2008, 02:16 PM
Sorry, I ain't buying it. Lois was enough to all of a sudden become a "serious" journalist when she wrote about flying barn doors. :rolleyes:

I know it's destiny for the LnC mythos to finally evolve, but too fast too soon. What has Clark written down recently- nothing. All I can say, now that we're here, I do hope that they will show him interviewing and shoving a microphone on someone's face. At least it will look like he's actually trying to be a journalist.

There's a sadness in me that Chloe will never or might never become the A's reporter she had always dream about, esp. watching the episode she was a kid and showing her mom her article.:( But then again, Smallville desperately need to wrap up the storylines.

I was thinking, remember in Lexmas, Chloe wrote a expose book on the LuthorCorp. Maybe instead of Lex being her inside source, it will be Lana. Since she does have all the dirt on the Luthors. I can definitely live with that. This will be a good idea to wrap up Chloe's storyline that instead of the hard-hitting journalist, she'll be a writer and Lana will do her part of peace and justice by giving her all the evidence. Sorry for the rant, just hate when the writers don't think about these types of things.

Yasise
09-19-2008, 02:41 PM
Clark becoming a reporter in Smallville has come down to Lois handing Clark an application? Talk about lightswitching. For once, I agree with Lois. I say that Clark belongs in the mailroom. It would be much better to show Clark wanting to branch out and work his way up, instead of just handing him the job with no experience or college degree. I want to see Clark earn the position, especially since he has shown no interest in journalism in the past. By making Clark a lower level employee at the DP, we could still get some development and it would give Clark time to work on his dual identity. Clark starts out in the mailroom, and begins to realize that he wants to do something more and takes an interest in reporting. He uses his "inside info" on the person saving the day to land an article that impresses Tess and convinces her to make Clark a reporter. Then we get to see him be partnered up with Lois. Clark becoming a reporter this easily kind of cheapens the whole experience in my opinion.

Compare it to Chloe's situation..

She is the editor of her high school paper all four years and writes a column for the DP. Then when she interviews just to try and get her foot in the door, she is told to bring in a good story to proove that she belongs. Chloe busts her ass to bring in the story, and then she ends up in the basement. The hiring process was much more realistic and as viewers we could still see why Chloe deserved to work at the DP with all the years of development. I find it a bit unfair that the DP would give a reporting gig to a farm kid that has no experience or degree. I guess their hiring policies have eased up. :D Imagine how Chloe is going to feel when she hears that Clark got hired on as a reporter.

I totally agree with you. O.k. some would say "come on, this is fiction" or "that's Smallville, everything's possible", but as you said it above "it cheapens the whole experience" and it is so not believable. :(

A farmboy, who used to sit on his farm and moan about his girlfriend, his destiny etc. get's all of a sudden a job in the DP as a reporter, without any college degrees etc. - ....yeah that is real fiction!

Smallville6
09-19-2008, 03:01 PM
I LOVE that he's at the DP now! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

mskingston
09-19-2008, 03:04 PM
I wish they could have had a more gradual progression there, but there wasn't much to be done about it. They'd dropped the ball for a few years there, so it was either get him in there now or never get him there at all.

I'd have liked it to be handled differently, but I appreciate that PS3 recognized they can't stall Clark any longer. Sadly, you can't change the past to make up for mistakes; you just have to keep moving forward.
I totally agree. I wish they had done it differently too, but my happiness over him finally being at the DP trumps everything. I can't wait for his first day! :)

Theshadow129x
09-19-2008, 03:05 PM
lightswitch to the 10th power

bimplebean
09-19-2008, 03:10 PM
Please help out a newbie here -- what is a 'lightswitch?' A plot change at the speed of light? [g]

theWatcher
09-19-2008, 04:38 PM
It's about time!

AndiGirl
09-19-2008, 06:01 PM
I think its about time, but I wish it was more realistic.

The fact that he walked in.....during the the middle of the night...and not only got a job, but one across from Lois. It's hard to believe, but I will go with it. :lol:

I mean, what happend to the days...when chloe had to scratch and claw her way in? It seems they are handing jobs out on the corner.

Dont get me wrong...I'm thrilled clark is there, it's just not reflecting well for the DP.

Ginx
09-19-2008, 06:02 PM
my thoughts.... I'm really excited but at the same time - he's right across from Lois lol.... what experience does he have and isn't Tess running the Planet? Won't she know him? Or do they not have vid cameras at their top secret facility? Guess not......

SnowBird
09-19-2008, 06:26 PM
Oh My! Here we go again with Clark and Lois needing a college education to be a reporter. This has been hashed over before and still people want to keep bringing it up. Why is it so important to be realistic to a fault. This is Smallville where there are aliens and meteor freaks and fantasy. This is where you can make believe and stretch the mind into an unrealistic world. So what if Clark and Lois only have a high school diploma. So what if they rush the storyline so they are reporters too soon. Many TV shows rush time. I've seen pregnancies where it takes 3 months to full term. I've seen where small kids grow up in a matter of a few years and these TV shows aren't even fantasy based. At least Smallville has followed a true timeline for Clark and friends with 8 seasons and 8 years. Okay, guess I'd better stop. I know I have probably stepped in a big pile of poop in here but just couldn't help myself,,,LOL...SMALLVILLE ROCKS!!!

One-Winged-Angel
09-19-2008, 06:39 PM
Finally smallville is heading the right direction! Ck at the DP, spending time with Lois (his future love) and contemplating a double identity. Things are great:) Hope they continue writing this way though!

AndiGirl
09-19-2008, 06:40 PM
Oh My! Here we go again with Clark and Lois needing a college education to be a reporter. This has been hashed over before and still people want to keep bringing it up. Why is it so important to be realistic to a fault. This is Smallville where there are aliens and meteor freaks and fantasy. This is where you can make believe and stretch the mind into an unrealistic world. So what if Clark and Lois only have a high school diploma. So what if they rush the storyline so they are reporters too soon. Many TV shows rush time. I've seen pregnancies where it takes 3 months to full term. I've seen where small kids grow up in a matter of a few years and these TV shows aren't even fantasy based. At least Smallville has followed a true timeline for Clark and friends with 8 seasons and 8 years. Okay, guess I'd better stop. I know I have probably stepped in a big pile of poop in here but just couldn't help myself,,,LOL...SMALLVILLE ROCKS!!!

Well, if you are talking about my post...then you avoided the poop....because I understand what you are saying. :lol:. They do need to rush it, but it also could have been more realistic.....thats not their fault that the previous executive producers decided to move supermans development along at a snails pace. Just saying....it was strange that he just walked in during the middle of the night, and boom...he's in. I said I can go with it.....we've had to bend the laws of nature numerous times for smallville, whats a few more?

Minela
09-19-2008, 07:11 PM
Plus, this might be a sign of Clois, and I just found out I'm a Clois fan :lol:

Welcome to the dark side. :lol:

Hopefulsuicide
09-20-2008, 08:20 AM
i don't have a huge problem with it, because i am genuinely glad to have this new setting and have Clark and Lois working on stories together, and have Clark writing and stuff

but i'm training to be a journalist myself, i'm coming up to my third year in my degree, i've done three different work experiances, i've participated in newsday simulations, i've made two unreleased magazines, handed in 100's of small stories to put towards a portfolio, talked to editors of magazines and newspapers, studied journalistic Law (which btw is essential), Ethics, Media studies, English Language, Politics and Society...

... and i still think i'll be lucky to get a simple little job at the bottom rung

so yeah, it's a little insulting... especially cause Lois Lane and Clark Kent are characters i look up to in terms of Journalism. In LnC Lois earned her way to the top, and Clark got the job based on world experiance, and a human touch to his writing.

how on earth does Smallville's Clark Kent apply for a job as journalist for the Daily Planet, and just get it straight away. maybe if we'd seen an interview or an agreement of some sort it wouldnt be so bad

but anyway, back to me feeling positive please :lol:

heromyth
09-21-2008, 12:12 AM
Good call, Clark’s woefully under qualified for the job, not that it doesn’t make sense, it's just that it strains credibility. Someone’s suggested that Perry White has been named the new editor and remembered that he owed Clark a favor for saving his life, encouraging him to lay off the booze, et al. White did concede that Clark showed a glimmer of promise as a reporter. Apart from that, Clark’s new job helps move the show along, although Smallville is on the cusp of overlapping with the existing Superman mythos. Season 8 should be the last unless the current creative team plans to abandon the “no flights, no tights” rule.




I don't mean to make people angry, but I was just wondering how Clark got the job when all he's ever done is help Chloe at the school newspaper with a half of year of college. That aside, I'm really glad that Clark got the job and I'm looking forward to all the clois at the daily planet.

borednow
09-21-2008, 12:23 AM
Nothing fell from the sky almost hitting him on the head. I am sorely disappointed...

Darth Pipes
09-21-2008, 12:46 AM
Well, this was the same company that hired a twenty-something clone with fake credentials as their CEO. He in turn hired Lois (whose only qualification was writing for a tabloid rag) because he wanted to have sex with her. So standards aren't very high at the DP.

Disco_Lemonade
09-21-2008, 01:41 AM
The Eighth Season Premiere really rubbed me wrong, I luv that PS3 are doing something far more creative with Chloe's power, hence the IQ boost, but I hate how quickly Clark was able to be a reporter. It's extremely unrealistic.


Oh My! Here we go again with Clark and Lois needing a college education to be a reporter. This has been hashed over before and still people want to keep bringing it up. Why is it so important to be realistic to a fault. This is Smallville where there are aliens and meteor freaks and fantasy. This is where you can make believe and stretch the mind into an unrealistic world. So what if Clark and Lois only have a high school diploma. So what if they rush the storyline so they are reporters too soon. Many TV shows rush time. I've seen pregnancies where it takes 3 months to full term. I've seen where small kids grow up in a matter of a few years and these TV shows aren't even fantasy based. At least Smallville has followed a true timeline for Clark and friends with 8 seasons and 8 years. Okay, guess I'd better stop. I know I have probably stepped in a big pile of poop in here but just couldn't help myself,,,LOL...SMALLVILLE ROCKS!!!

But I think that it is the HUMAN aspect of Smallville/Superman that makes it realistic. When you are dealing with Meteor Rocks that alter human DNA and people with Abilities that most people can only dream of, then there has to be that realistic element. Supernatural has enough EMOTIONAL struggles and heartaches and realistic elements, that I'm afraid to say "Bloody Mary" three times in a mirror. But I don't think that when high school drop outs, college drop outs, people who have had little to none Journalistic experience can get a job in what has been dubbed ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED NEWSPAPERS, that it is realistic.

So if Clark Kent, who has written maybe ten articles about METEOR FREAKS, that at best, could be published in the Inquisitor, suddenly gets hired at the DAILY PLANET? Does that mean that I can be a Molecular Biologist. I'm practically failing science, but I guess if I go into SV it won't matter right? I can just flunk out of Science, flunk out of High School, and flunk out of College, and become some huge hotshot Molecular Biologist whom everyone looks up to, and is the most respected Molecular Biologist in the world? I guess in SV I can.

Can my twelve year old sister drive a car in SV even though she isn't fifteen? Can my twelve year sister participate in a girls gone wild video in SV? Can my twelve year old sister drink in bars in SV? I guess that's just the NORM in SMALLVILLE.


i don't have a huge problem with it, because i am genuinely glad to have this new setting and have Clark and Lois working on stories together, and have Clark writing and stuff

but i'm training to be a journalist myself, i'm coming up to my third year in my degree, i've done three different work experiances, i've participated in newsday simulations, i've made two unreleased magazines, handed in 100's of small stories to put towards a portfolio, talked to editors of magazines and newspapers, studied journalistic Law (which btw is essential), Ethics, Media studies, English Language, Politics and Society...

... and i still think i'll be lucky to get a simple little job at the bottom rung

so yeah, it's a little insulting... especially cause Lois Lane and Clark Kent are characters i look up to in terms of Journalism. In LnC Lois earned her way to the top, and Clark got the job based on world experiance, and a human touch to his writing.

how on earth does Smallville's Clark Kent apply for a job as journalist for the Daily Planet, and just get it straight away. maybe if we'd seen an interview or an agreement of some sort it wouldnt be so bad

but anyway, back to me feeling positive please :lol:

I am excited about Lois and Clark being Journalists together- I luv CLOIS, its DESTINY, but only if its realistic. And it is really like pissing on LnC when Clark can just wake up one morning and apply for a job at one of the greatest newspapers, with very little credentials and get hired. It would be different if Clark actually worked for his Job, if he showed an interest in Journalism during the past two/three seasons, but its just fake, when he decides to apply out of the blue, AND ACTUALLY GETS HIRED.

Well, this was the same company that hired a twenty-something clone with fake credentials as their CEO. He in turn hired Lois (whose only qualification was writing for a tabloid rag) because he wanted to have sex with her. So standards aren't very high at the DP.

Don't even get me started on how degrading that was to SERIOUS JOURNALISTS and LOIS FANS everywhere. At least it should have been. It really pissed me off that Lois not only suddenly decided she wanted to be a reporter, but SUDDENLY, after writing about BARN DOORS FLYING OFF ON THEIR OWN, getting hired at the DAILY PLANET. And it was even more degrading that LOIS of all people SLEPT with her EDITOR. She didn't even break it off when Chloe advised her to.

CHLOE is an example of a good reporter, and I'm going to hope that PAULINE hired some other good reporters as well, and if CHLOE can figure it out, I'm sure half of the DAILY PLANET knew Lois was sleeping with the Editor within a week of them bumping uglies on his desk. As a LnC fan, I'm utterly disappointed in how not only AL/MILES but also PS3 have gone about getting Lois and Clark in the bullpen.

A little HARD WORK, isn't too much to ask, I had high hopes that these new writers would pull some magick out of thin air, but in a way they almost disappoint me as much as Al/Miles, if not more. At least with Al/Miles, Lois had previous Journalistic background at a NEWSPAPER, Clark's journalistic history consists solely of work done for A HIGH SCHOOL PAPER. I feel that in rushing Lois and Clark's debuts as reporters, the writers have totally ruined any chance that I'll be able to compare SV!Lois and SV!Clark to their LnC counterparts.

curiosity
09-21-2008, 02:48 AM
^^I loved it and there was nothing wrong with it, in fact the opposite. It stays true to the story. In the original movie, it's not explained how Clark got the job at the DP, or Lois for that matter. It makes no difference.

It makes perfect sense that Clark was hired by the DP, his former best friend was the former owner or might still be the current owner, he's a friend of Perry White, his mom is a Sentor, what more do you need? The list of how and why Clark was hired goes on and on. Maybe he's still the "fastest typist" like in the movie, but does it really matter?

And how Lois was hired, someone liked her work at her former paper job. Big deal. Who really cares? Her father is some type of high up General in the military. This pulls a lot of weight also. Lois NEVER slept with her boss. She kissed him, didn't sleep with him. Someone needs to do a video rewind.

HalJordan4184
09-21-2008, 06:15 AM
^^I loved it and there was nothing wrong with it, in fact the opposite. It stays true to the story. In the original movie, it's not explained how Clark got the job at the DP, or Lois for that matter. It makes no difference.

It makes perfect sense that Clark was hired by the DP, his former best friend was the former owner or might still be the current owner, he's a friend of Perry White, his mom is a Sentor, what more do you need? The list of how and why Clark was hired goes on and on. Maybe he's still the "fastest typist" like in the movie, but does it really matter?

And how Lois was hired, someone liked her work at her former paper job. Big deal. Who really cares? Her father is some type of high up General in the military. This pulls a lot of weight also. Lois NEVER slept with her boss. She kissed him, didn't sleep with him. Someone needs to do a video rewind.

It does not stay true to the story. One of the biggest complaints about Superman the Movie, is how Clark, a man who literally dropped off the face of the earth for 12 years, gets a job at the most prestigious newspaper in the world.

Comic's Clark Kent went to college, travelled the world, worked for small local papers, and put freelance articles in. He had a portfolio most writers would dream to have. And he didn't even get hired when he applied. He had to submit a truly awesome scoop, to get hired. He got hired, but being the first person to interview Superman. Yeah, it was kind of cheating, but that's what he did, and had to do.

What's even more degrading, is if they didn't get the job based in skill, but based on who they knew. So what that Clark's mom is a senator. How does that show he can write? So what that Lois' dad is a general. How does that showcase her skills at all?

And Grant and Lois were having sex. They were in a full blown relationship. Lois even jokes about it in a few episodes. They don't have to show it on screen, for it to be referenced and implied. Especially since this Lois has been shown to be a little more forthcoming about her exploits, than previous versions.

RedKRules
09-21-2008, 07:51 AM
For me it was just another lightswitch!

Darth Pipes
09-21-2008, 09:10 PM
Lois only got that job because Grant the clone wanted to sleep with her.

borednow
09-21-2008, 10:15 PM
Lois only got that job because Grant the clone wanted to sleep with her.
... first of all what does Grant being a clone have to do with... well anything? Second cannon of the show said otherwise, third, how or why Lois got hired had no real relevance on how Clark got hired, now does it? Posting hateful, somewhat sexist remarks with no baring on the subject or actual show cannon is pretty much the definition of trolling so please, can we all just talk about Clark for a minute? Hmmm?

Really it's just the way the show works. They don't care how Clark or Lois got into the DP... they want to see them rise the ranks at the DP... so they drop them there... logical or not. Really with this shows previous issues it's probably best just to take a deep breath file it under bad writing and move on. You're watching Smallville, this is not an Emmy winner people.

ginnyfan
09-21-2008, 10:20 PM
Nothing fell from the sky almost hitting him on the head. I am sorely disappointed...

Well if it makes you feel any better Clark went up and hit the sky so... it's like a reverse epiphany. Lois and Perry could have died... Clark did die.

I actually wish that Clark had been bitten by a Chupacabra and wrote a story about it. That would have been a MUCH more plausible way to get hired at the Daily Planet: a newspaper in the pocket of big business... oh wait I mean a nationally renowned newspaper.

Now that I think about it... none of us knows how or why Clark was hired.

Much ado about nothing. I love that play. :D

borednow
09-21-2008, 10:22 PM
Now that I think about it... none of us knows how or why Clark was hired.

Much ado about nothing. I love that play. :D

... good point!

smallvillerocks45
09-21-2008, 11:37 PM
From my understanding, Lois presented Clark with an internship opportunity, which is not a "job," nor does it make him an ace reporter. Secondly, Clark said he is the newest recruit to the Daily Planet, not the newest reporter or headlining journalist. Just because ultimately Clark is supposed to be a great reporter in the future for the Daily Planet does not mean that he is now.

Lois... well, that's a different story. She wrote an article for the Torch, a bunch of fluff pieces (or what seemed to be fluff, but were mostly based on her unexplainable and extraterrestrial encounters) for the Inquisitor, and Grant Gabriel liked her so much that he gave a desk at the Planet (based on the quality of her work, of course ;p)... it's debatable, but she at least has some kind of resume underneath her belt. Clark, on the other hand is just beginning to build his. That's pretty exciting, IMO.

DestinyAw8s
09-22-2008, 12:35 AM
Offscreenville is a PPOV. It can be twisted to fit any argument, whether it has merit or not.

Hopefulsuicide
09-22-2008, 05:31 AM
From my understanding, Lois presented Clark with an internship opportunity, which is not a "job," nor does it make him an ace reporter. Secondly, Clark said he is the newest recruit to the Daily Planet, not the newest reporter or headlining journalist. Just because ultimately Clark is supposed to be a great reporter in the future for the Daily Planet does not mean that he is now.


why would they give anyone less than a journalist a name plate, and why would they sit him next to another journalist, with a similar sized work area, in the news room

logical assumption = he got a job as a journalist

KaraClarkfan
09-22-2008, 06:14 AM
i think that's a start of becoming superman...but bad for chloe.

smallvillerocks45
09-22-2008, 06:55 AM
why would they give anyone less than a journalist a name plate, and why would they sit him next to another journalist, with a similar sized work area, in the news room

logical assumption = he got a job as a journalist


Is Clark's workspace really that much bigger than Chloe's was when she was an intern there? I'm not exactly sure when her role jumped from intern to full time journalist (she was fired), but the Planet is a pretty big place. Maybe it doesn't cost them much to give him a few extra amenities.

I know this is not how the real world works. Believe me, I know people don't just hand things to the average person, but this is Clark Kent we're talking about... he is not your average guy.

Anyhow, I'm not claiming that my word is gospel, I could be wrong, but we've got a lot of show left... Maybe we'll get a better explanation as to what exactly his role at the Planet is and just why he was 'hired' with so little experience underneath him - maybe we won't. I still think him being there is pretty exciting.

RedKRules
09-22-2008, 06:57 AM
i think that's a start of becoming superman...but bad for chloe.

Actually, I donīt even connect Clarkīs getting a job at The Daily with Chloe anymore, because Chloe earned it.... and Clark didnīt .... before anyone starts saying I am bashing Clark, let me just clarify that I am Smallville fan, but I donīt have to agree with or like the lame, poor written storylines ...

Hopefulsuicide
09-22-2008, 07:02 AM
Is Clark's workspace really that much bigger than Chloe's was when she was an intern there? I'm not exactly sure when her role jumped from intern to full time journalist (did it ever?), but the Planet is a pretty big place. Maybe it doesn't cost too much to give him a few extra amenities.

I know this is not how the real world works. Believe me, I know people don't just hand things to the average person, but this is Clark Kent we're talking about.

Anyhow, I'm not claiming that my word is gospel, I could be wrong, but we've got a lot of show left... Maybe we'll get a better explanation as to what exactly his role at the Planet is and just why he was 'hired' with so little experience underneath him - maybe we won't. I still think him being there is pretty exciting.

Chloe wasn't just an intern. she did an internship at the DP between season 1 and 2 and then wrote a column for them in season 3. when she was working in the lower level of the DP it was just as a lower level journalist doing obits and things, and she had to struggle to get that job. Lois is higher up, and Clark said they would be neighbours. this implies he is starting off on the same level as her.

anyway, i hope your right and we do get an explanation, but i doubt it will be a satisfactory one. they just wanted him there, and they couldn't be bothered to come up with a creative way to do it believably

RedKRules
09-22-2008, 07:08 AM
Chloe wasn't just an intern. she did an internship at the DP between season 1 and 2 and then wrote a column for them in season 3. when she was working in the lower level of the DP it was just as a lower level journalist doing obits and things, and she had to struggle to get that job. Lois is higher up, and Clark said they would be neighbours. this implies he is starting off on the same level as her.

anyway, i hope your right and we do get an explanation, but i doubt it will be a satisfactory one. they just wanted him there, and they couldn't be bothered to come up with a creative way to do it believably

I agree with you again :)! I donīt think there will be any kind of explanation, they will just show how miraculously Clark is now a Reporter ...

maybe I am wrong ... but since they didnīt bother to show us how he got the job ....

stenochick
09-22-2008, 07:11 AM
They didn't have to lightswitch though. They could have had him start out in the mailroom just to get his foot in the door. Then Clark begins to realize he wants to do something more. You see him use his inside knowledge to write an article that impresses Tess enough to make him a reporter. The time could also be spent letting Clark practice on his dual identity enough so that he could deal with Lois a bit easier as well.

I just wanted to see the process of Clark growing into reporting and what got him in as Lois Lane's partner.

ITA. He could start in the mailroom. Then he saves Tess in Plastique and from that point on he is on Tess' radar in a good way. Then he writes one or two good articles while in the mailroom. Tess gives him the desk opposite Lois, 1. because she is enamored with Clark and 2. because she wants to annoy Lois.

smallvillerocks45
09-22-2008, 07:12 AM
I hope the PS3 can come up with a good explanation, too. But what qualifies as satisfactory?

I mean, it would be "lightswitchy" if he does just have a job there, but I don't know anything concrete. I was just throwing out some ideas.

Hopefulsuicide
09-22-2008, 07:35 AM
ITA. He could start in the mailroom. Then he saves Tess in Plastique and from that point on he is on Tess' radar in a good way. Then he writes one or two good articles while in the mailroom. Tess gives him the desk opposite Lois, 1. because she is enamored with Clark and 2. because she wants to annoy Lois.

that would have made sense... but it's too late for that now... and im struggling to think of an explanation that makes sense... i predict some under rug sweeping when it comes to those questions

BULLITT
09-22-2008, 11:58 AM
Not that it's needed for being a journalist, but did Clark (in the show) get his university degree? Or did he drop out to take care of the farm?

knightofkrypton
09-22-2008, 12:04 PM
Not that it's needed for being a journalist, but did Clark (in the show) get his university degree? Or did he drop out to take care of the farm?
No, CK in SV does not have a degree in anything unless its from The University of Phoenix online or something.


1. I've worked for a newspaper writing Obituaries. Thats usually where you start off, the bottom. I had the fortune of being able to write some movie reviews also. And this was in a town of 100,000 with one newspaper when I was in high school.

I bet you a million though, if I walked into the Chicago Tribune, and threw down on an application that I had written obits in high school and had one year of college that I would NOT get a job doing side columns and page 20 sidebars. I'd be lucky to work in the printing press.

In the 30's and even in the 70's you could probably get away with walking in and getting a job, but in 2000. Almost everyone would require AT LEAST a Bachelors degree in ANYTHING. At this moment unless they are a veteran, I can guarantee that 9 out of 10 reporters have a degree in SOMETHING. And if they don't they have to have LOTS of journalistic experience and show some aggression and knack for the job. CK of SV has none of these.

I ALWAYS wanted SV to explore Clark's passion for Journalism. The WHY's and the WHATFOR behind him becoming a Reporter. Because, lets face it, the old school excuse of Supes needing to be right where news breaks is long past. In todays world AND with the Superman of today's powers he can either find breaking news on the internet and/or he'll hear about it anyways through tuning in to whatever radio band he wants with his super hearing.

There now needs to be a real PERSONAL reason WHY he wants to be a Reporter. L&C touched on it but never went in depth. A few comics have touched on it. SV could've taken that opportunity and given us SEVERAL choice episodes through out the years about Clark striving to uncover the truth because he felt it was a noble thing to do. But instead we're handed him just lucking into the job with no real passion or drive for it. At least Chloe earned it.

This leads me to believe that this entire season will just be "lightswitched" and suddenly give us this Noble, selfless Hero of the people that fights for Truth, Justice and The American way....and thats complete BS. CK of SV has NOT been that person, and he's taken small baby steps towards that person yet he WAS very far from achieving it. Suddenly, he'll be there without any trouble?? Crap.

2. Is Clark even wearing glasses yet? Sure the idea of Clark wearing glasses to hide his identity it pushing it to say the least, but at least originally NO ONE at the Daily Planet or in Metropolis had ever SEEN Clark without glasses. SV has entirely DESTROYED any chance of him having an alternate identity.
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ginnyfan
09-22-2008, 12:15 PM
Clark quit school to help at the Farm after Jonathan died. I'm sure his grades would have suffered... fighting all those Zoners. Maybe there'll be a side mention of him going back to school.

Maybe we'll hear more about Clark Kent and Journalism retroactively.

At this point I'd believe that Clark wanted to work at the Daily Planet for access to the Database more than that he had an interest in Journalism.

The Daily Planet has been manipulated by the Luthors for a long time now. Perhaps in hiring a real greenhorn... Perhaps the editor is corrupt and hopes Clark will be easily swayed.

*shrug*

BULLITT
09-22-2008, 12:52 PM
No, CK in SV does not have a degree in anything unless its from The University of Phoenix online or something.


:rotfl:

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Good input folks.

Iluvgreen
09-22-2008, 06:23 PM
I was screaming, and screaching. Im never gonna get over that scene. it was just prefect. I love how clark works at the daily plenet. and i love how he wants to be in the middle of the action.

knightofkrypton
09-22-2008, 06:50 PM
Clark quit school to help at the Farm after Jonathan died. I'm sure his grades would have suffered... fighting all those Zoners. Maybe there'll be a side mention of him going back to school.




Yeah but the man has Superspeed. He can do chores on the farm in between classes. His reasoning for quitting school was horrendously lame.

Him suddenly working at the Daily planet is nothing but a lightswitch. They've ignored all they can for several years. Now they've gone, "ah, yeah we have to end the series with this so lets just give it to them and they'll accept it."

instead of building up to it.

Cogito17
09-22-2008, 07:34 PM
As I've stated in the other thread floating around about this... its no more unrealistic than Chloe getting her job on a story about a sorority of vampires or Lois getting her job on a story about a UFO.

I understand that not everything can be explained by "well its Smallville these kinds of things just happen" or "It's just a show, not reality". I also understand that perhaps more detail was needed for the main character. Buuuut, it seems kind of arbitrary where these standards are applied. Especially when no one says much about Chloe and Lois' methods (vampires/UFOs at a prestigous newspaper), but when Clark takes the most beleivable path (handing in an application), people are up in arms.

knightofkrypton
09-22-2008, 10:14 PM
As I've stated in the other thread floating around about this... its no more unrealistic than Chloe getting her job on a story about a sorority of vampires or Lois getting her job on a story about a UFO.
..............Especially when no one says much about Chloe and Lois' methods (vampires/UFOs at a prestigous newspaper), but when Clark takes the most beleivable path (handing in an application), people are up in arms.


Because Chloe at least ALWAYS showed interest in newspaper. She had some qualifications, many more in fact then Clark ever had. She had already interned at the DP BEFORE she was ever involved with Lionel, etc. Chloe had a past with the Daily Planet.

Lois worked for another newspaper, albeit it was not a respectable one. She's a little iffy.

clark on the other hand had no qualifications, no interest, in fact, almost no job experience whatsoever. Not to mention being a college drop out.

SnowBird
09-22-2008, 11:37 PM
My reasons for Clark to be working at the Planet...Clark is destined to work at the DP. He worked at the Torch. He's a quick learner. He types fast and knows his way around a computer. He has Lois. He can get to a possible story fast. He wants to get to the truth. He is a hero. He looks great in a suit. He can leap tall buildings in a single bound. Faster than a speeding bullit. Xray and heat vision, super breath, super hearing, Man of steal and bullit proof. He is very very smart with a mind like a steal trap. Saves people. Do you know any other reporter that can do all that? More than qualified if you ask me. I don't really care how he got hired. I'm just happy he is at the DP with Lois.

ginnyfan
09-22-2008, 11:56 PM
Yeah but the man has Superspeed. He can do chores on the farm in between classes. His reasoning for quitting school was horrendously lame.

Ah... good point. Although grief stricken super speed farm chores could be dangerous.

Hopefulsuicide
09-23-2008, 03:09 AM
As I've stated in the other thread floating around about this... its no more unrealistic than Chloe getting her job on a story about a sorority of vampires or Lois getting her job on a story about a UFO.

I understand that not everything can be explained by "well its Smallville these kinds of things just happen" or "It's just a show, not reality". I also understand that perhaps more detail was needed for the main character. Buuuut, it seems kind of arbitrary where these standards are applied. Especially when no one says much about Chloe and Lois' methods (vampires/UFOs at a prestigous newspaper), but when Clark takes the most beleivable path (handing in an application), people are up in arms.

well i complained about Lois, and i made comment about Chloe too... so i guess my standards have been being applied this whole time... this isn't a new arguement

what most of us can't believe is that after the minor questions regarding chloe's job, the major questions after Lois got her job, they have insulted our intellegence EVEN MORE with the main character... it's like a steady decline in 'give a ****'.

Theshadow129x
09-23-2008, 03:16 AM
^ i've also complained about Lois and Chloe. They weren't qualified for their jobs they were basically handed to them and yet people are like "well its a show, not reality" or "it was belivable" when it really wasn't. I hate the way all of them got a job at the DP. It makes me think of it as a hack newspaper for people who lack common sense and experience than a place that brings in news before anyone else and gets it in ways no one else can.

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No, CK in SV does not have a degree in anything unless its from The University of Phoenix online or something.


1. I've worked for a newspaper writing Obituaries. Thats usually where you start off, the bottom. I had the fortune of being able to write some movie reviews also. And this was in a town of 100,000 with one newspaper when I was in high school.

I bet you a million though, if I walked into the Chicago Tribune, and threw down on an application that I had written obits in high school and had one year of college that I would NOT get a job doing side columns and page 20 sidebars. I'd be lucky to work in the printing press.

In the 30's and even in the 70's you could probably get away with walking in and getting a job, but in 2000. Almost everyone would require AT LEAST a Bachelors degree in ANYTHING. At this moment unless they are a veteran, I can guarantee that 9 out of 10 reporters have a degree in SOMETHING. And if they don't they have to have LOTS of journalistic experience and show some aggression and knack for the job. CK of SV has none of these.

I ALWAYS wanted SV to explore Clark's passion for Journalism. The WHY's and the WHATFOR behind him becoming a Reporter. Because, lets face it, the old school excuse of Supes needing to be right where news breaks is long past. In todays world AND with the Superman of today's powers he can either find breaking news on the internet and/or he'll hear about it anyways through tuning in to whatever radio band he wants with his super hearing.

There now needs to be a real PERSONAL reason WHY he wants to be a Reporter. L&C touched on it but never went in depth. A few comics have touched on it. SV could've taken that opportunity and given us SEVERAL choice episodes through out the years about Clark striving to uncover the truth because he felt it was a noble thing to do. But instead we're handed him just lucking into the job with no real passion or drive for it. At least Chloe earned it.

This leads me to believe that this entire season will just be "lightswitched" and suddenly give us this Noble, selfless Hero of the people that fights for Truth, Justice and The American way....and thats complete BS. CK of SV has NOT been that person, and he's taken small baby steps towards that person yet he WAS very far from achieving it. Suddenly, he'll be there without any trouble?? Crap.

2. Is Clark even wearing glasses yet? Sure the idea of Clark wearing glasses to hide his identity it pushing it to say the least, but at least originally NO ONE at the Daily Planet or in Metropolis had ever SEEN Clark without glasses. SV has entirely DESTROYED any chance of him having an alternate identity.
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this is the truest statement i have ever read because its the same as me in my journalistic career. i hate the fact that they never explored this it makes Clark look like a complete hack and a true loser in my opinion.

Sweetie
09-23-2008, 08:54 AM
Well,it was this season or never.I'm so glad to see him working there at last.All his personality has changed,he was really behaving like a hero.I really liked that.

sithius
09-23-2008, 10:26 AM
I personally believe that the new guy in charge (name?) was informed of Lex's suspicions of Clark and so to keep an eye on him hired him. If there is something special about him, then by giving him the job he can not only watch Clark, but use manipulation to get him on his side.

RedKRules
09-23-2008, 10:33 AM
That guy you're talking about is MISSING !! soooo ... I don't believe that was the reason!

oberyn
09-23-2008, 10:33 AM
IMO, it was never going to be believable. Clark has no experience. We all know Clark's a great guy, but, from the perspective of a potential employer, he's a guy who used to write for his high school paper. Wow.

That being said, TPTB have, quite obviously, never been interested in portraying a realistic newspaper hiring experience. The same was true for Chloe. The same was true for Lois. The same was true for Clark.

At this point, what were their options? Delay Clark's journey even more so that he can go back to college?

As a viewer, I don't tune into "Smallville" to see a realistic newspaper hiring experience. Even if Clark had started in the mailroom, events would have worked themselves out in an unrealistic manner to get him out of the mailroom in an unbelievably fast manner.

RedKRules
09-23-2008, 10:36 AM
Yes, I know Smallville is only TV show, anything can happen ... but why do they constantly understimate our intelligence? that is all, there were others options ... but they chose, to take the shortcut to get there! after all this may be the last season, so I don't really blame them for the lightswitches !! Anyway I will enjoy what I get .. even if it seems incredible unreal!

oberyn
09-23-2008, 10:44 AM
Yes, I know Smallville is only TV show, anything can happen ... but why do they constantly understimate our intelligence? that is all, there were others options ... but they chose, to take the shortcut to get there! after all this may be the last season, so I don't really blame them for the lightswitches !! Anyway I will enjoy what I get .. even if it seems incredible unreal!

I can see what you're saying.

After 8 seasons, though, I don't expect "Smallville" to give me much in terms of realism. Nor, let's face it, is the show marketed that way.

So, things that would bother me if, say, they happened in an episode of Law & Order don't make me so much as bat an eyelash when they happen on this show.

Who
09-23-2008, 12:18 PM
Yeah it has finally happened! I think it would have been funnier to have him start in the mail room. Bring on Perry White!

knightofkrypton
09-23-2008, 06:20 PM
Oh My! Here we go again with Clark and Lois needing a college education to be a reporter. This has been hashed over before and still people want to keep bringing it up. Why is it so important to be realistic to a fault. This is Smallville where there are aliens and meteor freaks and fantasy. This is where you can make believe and stretch the mind into an unrealistic world. So what if Clark and Lois only have a high school diploma. So what if they rush the storyline so they are reporters too soon. Many TV shows rush time. I've seen pregnancies where it takes 3 months to full term. I've seen where small kids grow up in a matter of a few years and these TV shows aren't even fantasy based. At least Smallville has followed a true timeline for Clark and friends with 8 seasons and 8 years. Okay, guess I'd better stop. I know I have probably stepped in a big pile of poop in here but just couldn't help myself,,,LOL...SMALLVILLE ROCKS!!!


The problem is that they've had SEVEN YEARS to place bits and pieces of Clark wanting to be a journalist. SEVEN YEARS to have him write some stories, or aggressively pursue a goal. But they spent all last season doing what? Letting him mope around on the farm.

The show has no respect for the mythos, nor the character of Clark Kent. By wrapping up the series with just giving us the Clark from the comics, etc...instead of progressively building to it over eight years, its a rip off. the journey was wasted because there was no journey. Just seven years of back and forth and then Ending where he should be, not where he grew too.

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My reasons for Clark to be working at the Planet...Clark is destined to work at the DP. This is not a reason for Clark to be working at the Planet. 1. Clark doesn't know its his destiny, nor has he EVER shown any interest in Journalism.


He worked at the Torch. Yeah, he did great at that...."rewriting the Lunch menu"...wasn't that how one principal put Clark's work. He was fired once by Chloe too right? Not to mention working at a high school newspaper in a half horse town does not a resume make.


He's a quick learner. Right, thats why he keeps having to relearn the same lessons over and over again throughout the past 7 years.


He types fast and knows his way around a computer. Yeah, so do I...does that make me a reporter?


He has Lois. She's no help, and BARELY more of a Journalist. Lois in ALL the incarnations was a top notch veteran when Clark showed up. Not SV's Lois.

He can get to a possible story fast. Only if it involves Lana, Lois, Chloe, etc. Clark's usually only worried about his friends and family...

He wants to get to the truth. When?? The truth of himself, or his heritage? Thats about the only time he really pursued anything. Other then that others have always pushed him.


He is a hero. He looks great in a suit. He can leap tall buildings in a single bound. Faster than a speeding bullit. Xray and heat vision, super breath, super hearing, Man of steal and bullit proof. NONE of these reasons have ANYTHING to do with him working at the DP

He is very very smart with a mind like a steal trap. Right.......right, thats why he's usually called the Big Dumb Alien...even as an official title on this site.


Saves people. Again, not a reason, and usually only if its his friends and family.


Do you know any other reporter that can do all that? More than qualified if you ask me. I don't really care how he got hired. I'm just happy he is at the DP with Lois. He's not qualified to work at a great metropolitan newspaper. He has almost no qualifications. He barely even has an actual work resume not to mention a journalistic one.


Well,it was this season or never.I'm so glad to see him working there at last.All his personality has changed,he was really behaving like a hero.I really liked that.

Yeah, I just wish we could've seen the journey that must have happened during the summer. He must've suddenly taken an interest in journalism, wrote tons of stories, had them published and along the way taken an interest in people other then himself....too bad 7 season couldn't have been devoted to some of that.

Hopefulsuicide
09-23-2008, 06:31 PM
totally agreed... the whole show has been a waste of my time in terms of what i was looking forward to

i wanted to see someone's take on how your grow into a superhero... instead i saw a few great storylines followed by a lot of stalling, stale relationship plots and attempts at mythos 'hinting'

it sadly doesn't even come close to what the potential was

SnowBird
09-23-2008, 07:03 PM
The problem is that they've had SEVEN YEARS to place bits and pieces of Clark wanting to be a journalist. SEVEN YEARS to have him write some stories, or aggressively pursue a goal. But they spent all last season doing what? Letting him mope around on the farm.

The show has no respect for the mythos, nor the character of Clark Kent. By wrapping up the series with just giving us the Clark from the comics, etc...instead of progressively building to it over eight years, its a rip off. the journey was wasted because there was no journey. Just seven years of back and forth and then Ending where he should be, not where he grew too.

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This is not a reason for Clark to be working at the Planet. 1. Clark doesn't know its his destiny, nor has he EVER shown any interest in Journalism.

Yeah, he did great at that...."rewriting the Lunch menu"...wasn't that how one principal put Clark's work. He was fired once by Chloe too right? Not to mention working at a high school newspaper in a half horse town does not a resume make.

Right, thats why he keeps having to relearn the same lessons over and over again throughout the past 7 years.

Yeah, so do I...does that make me a reporter?

She's no help, and BARELY more of a Journalist. Lois in ALL the incarnations was a top notch veteran when Clark showed up. Not SV's Lois.
Only if it involves Lana, Lois, Chloe, etc. Clark's usually only worried about his friends and family...
When?? The truth of himself, or his heritage? Thats about the only time he really pursued anything. Other then that others have always pushed him.

NONE of these reasons have ANYTHING to do with him working at the DP
Right.......right, thats why he's usually called the Big Dumb Alien...even as an official title on this site.

Again, not a reason, and usually only if its his friends and family.

He's not qualified to work at a great metropolitan newspaper. He has almost no qualifications. He barely even has an actual work resume not to mention a journalistic one.



Yeah, I just wish we could've seen the journey that must have happened during the summer. He must've suddenly taken an interest in journalism, wrote tons of stories, had them published and along the way taken an interest in people other then himself....too bad 7 season couldn't have been devoted to some of that.

Wow, you sure took time to take apart what I wrote. I feel honored. It's a shame you are so obsessed with Clark not deserving to be a reporter. Guess what? It doesn't really matter because Clark is still going to be a reporter. For my reasons, I was mostly just having a little fun and wasn't serious about most of the reasons Clark should work at the DP. I thought you would catch that. Guess I should have put just kidding after what I wrote. I hope Clark working at the DP will grow on you after you see him in action. I have faith he will do a good job.:)

RedKRules
09-23-2008, 07:17 PM
The problem is that they've had SEVEN YEARS to place bits and pieces of Clark wanting to be a journalist. SEVEN YEARS to have him write some stories, or aggressively pursue a goal. But they spent all last season doing what? Letting him mope around on the farm.

The show has no respect for the mythos, nor the character of Clark Kent. By wrapping up the series with just giving us the Clark from the comics, etc...instead of progressively building to it over eight years, its a rip off. the journey was wasted because there was no journey. Just seven years of back and forth and then Ending where he should be, not where he grew too.

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This is not a reason for Clark to be working at the Planet. 1. Clark doesn't know its his destiny, nor has he EVER shown any interest in Journalism.

Yeah, he did great at that...."rewriting the Lunch menu"...wasn't that how one principal put Clark's work. He was fired once by Chloe too right? Not to mention working at a high school newspaper in a half horse town does not a resume make.

Right, thats why he keeps having to relearn the same lessons over and over again throughout the past 7 years.

Yeah, so do I...does that make me a reporter?

She's no help, and BARELY more of a Journalist. Lois in ALL the incarnations was a top notch veteran when Clark showed up. Not SV's Lois.
Only if it involves Lana, Lois, Chloe, etc. Clark's usually only worried about his friends and family...
When?? The truth of himself, or his heritage? Thats about the only time he really pursued anything. Other then that others have always pushed him.

NONE of these reasons have ANYTHING to do with him working at the DP
Right.......right, thats why he's usually called the Big Dumb Alien...even as an official title on this site.

Again, not a reason, and usually only if its his friends and family.

He's not qualified to work at a great metropolitan newspaper. He has almost no qualifications. He barely even has an actual work resume not to mention a journalistic one.



Yeah, I just wish we could've seen the journey that must have happened during the summer. He must've suddenly taken an interest in journalism, wrote tons of stories, had them published and along the way taken an interest in people other then himself....too bad 7 season couldn't have been devoted to some of that.


Can I just say I totally agree with you? Clark still have a lot to proof to make his newest job ICONIC

knightofkrypton
09-23-2008, 09:10 PM
Wow, you sure took time to take apart what I wrote. I feel honored. It's a shame you are so obsessed with Clark not deserving to be a reporter. Guess what? It doesn't really matter because Clark is still going to be a reporter. For my reasons, I was mostly just having a little fun and wasn't serious about most of the reasons Clark should work at the DP. I thought you would catch that. Guess I should have put just kidding after what I wrote. I hope Clark working at the DP will grow on you after you see him in action. I have faith he will do a good job.:)

I'm not obsessed with him not deserving. I'm just tired of people thinking that its a natural progression of the show. It's not. It's a lightswitch, for 7 years he's been a wishy washy no body that wanted nothing to do with anyone else except sit on his farm and play house with Lana, and NOW after 7 years he wants to be a reporter and help people?

I'm sure he will do great as a reporter...but thats not the point. It's not in SV's natural progression to have that.

Smallville's "journey" of a young Clark Kent growing up to be the person Superman is like:

a kid that started out on the right path, got lost, stubbed his toe, went back home, took a nap, started the trip again, lost the map, went back home and decided to use the teleportor.

Season 8 will make this entire show pointless and and its original intentions null and void. There was no journey.

and if you weren't serious, I apologize. Many lovers of SV that have no idea about anything else Superman love this show and think its a great example of how Superman/Clark Kent became the person everyone knows today. Those such people post stuff like that all the time.

SnowBird
09-23-2008, 09:42 PM
I'm not obsessed with him not deserving. I'm just tired of people thinking that its a natural progression of the show. It's not. It's a lightswitch, for 7 years he's been a wishy washy no body that wanted nothing to do with anyone else except sit on his farm and play house with Lana, and NOW after 7 years he wants to be a reporter and help people?

I'm sure he will do great as a reporter...but thats not the point. It's not in SV's natural progression to have that.

Smallville's "journey" of a young Clark Kent growing up to be the person Superman is like:

a kid that started out on the right path, got lost, stubbed his toe, went back home, took a nap, started the trip again, lost the map, went back home and decided to use the teleportor.

Season 8 will make this entire show pointless and and its original intentions null and void. There was no journey.

and if you weren't serious, I apologize. Many lovers of SV that have no idea about anything else Superman love this show and think its a great example of how Superman/Clark Kent became the person everyone knows today. Those such people post stuff like that all the time.

I can see you are very passionate about how you feel and we will never agree because I'm just not as worried about detail. Ya, it was one of my posts that seemed okay at the time and now I wonder why did I do that?...LOL...I just never thought anyone would take me serious. Time will tell how the season will all work out and I'm excited to find out. With new people at the helm, we can hope they will give us a great show.

paradise
09-23-2008, 11:58 PM
he cant start in the mail room because he would never be able to make his quick exits. like his one day job at the talon. he cant hold down a normal job or do college classes since he has to save people all the time... so normal staying indoors job is out of the question

(i read a bunch of posts but didnt see this mentioned)

BULLITT
09-24-2008, 12:43 AM
He probably banged out a 1000 word article, with perfect punctuation, before the interviewer returned with their coffee.

Or he just took Perry White up on his offer.

Remember?

When Perry was getting on the bus to Metropolis, he looked back and said he went over some more of Clark's Torch articles;

Perry: "Well...they're rough, and half the time you bury the lead...but, I see a glimmer of hope. If you ever make it to Metropolis, look me up, I owe you one."

Theshadow129x
09-24-2008, 01:01 AM
i find it funny people are seriously saying like "hey its fine, he's destined to be at the daily planet so its nice he's there." that doesnt prove anything. season 8's premiere proved to me without a doubt they didnt have the true progression of Clark kent planned out. He was just given his job. this was something smallville had the chance to truly explore over every over iteration of the superman/ clark kent mythology: Why does Clark want to be a reporter? Simply saying, I wanted to be in the middle of the action doesn't cut it. its a lame excuse. And saying he's diestined to be there is another cop-out because he doesn't nor anyone else knows what's he's destined for...not even jor-el.

The thing is that when you say he was destined to be a reporter, in this day and age he doesn't have to be a reporter...heck with his abilities to fly around all day and run and hear far away he really doesn't need to be a reporter so this was something that needed to be explored. This is just something so big on the character to just go and be ignored and Smallville ignored it for 7 years!

Saying he has super powers dont make him qualified because who the heck knows about his powers? no one! just him! and his powers dont make him qualified,we dont even know what kind of writer he is or what kid of reporter. Yeah we know he will be investigative but why not why just that area...things like that need to be implemented into the story but smallville dropped the ball with Clark Kent and completely stunted his growth and when they could have used season 8 as an area to see where he could go from last season they dont have him search they just throw him in the middle of where he was supposed to end up...at the DP. Its a light switch and dont say it isnt because it is!

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He probably banged out a 1000 word article, with perfect punctuation, before the interviewer returned with their coffee.

Or he just took Perry White up on his offer.

Remember?

When Perry was getting on the bus to Metropolis, he looked back and said he went over some more of Clark's Torch articles;

Perry: "Well...they're rough, and half the time you bury the lead...but, I see a glimmer of hope. If you ever make it to Metropolis, look me up, I owe you one."

Perry isnt the editor and there isnt a sure thing if perry is even at the planet now. besides its still a cop out because Clark still has no experience nor love for being a reporter. period.

TOMophilus
09-24-2008, 03:34 AM
I agree with everyone who think that SV has wasted too much time, failing to show us Clark Kentīs journey. I am really glad that Clark is now finally at the DP, but it comes out of the blue, in a desperate attempt to rectify the horrible mistakes of AlMilesī stalling. It is obvious to me that AlMiles never had any respect for the Superman story and that they lost interest in their main character in the middle of the process. A new ability every season doesnīt make for the development and growth of a character when you actually keep this character obsessed with his teenie love interest.

The new showrunners may be successful in bringing the story to a decent end after S8 (or, hopefully not, S9), but the initial purpose of the show, to show us how and why a young Clark Kent grew into Superman, must be judged as a failure nonetheless.

Yasise
09-24-2008, 05:21 AM
I 100% agree with all knightofkrypton, theshadow129x and TOMophilus said.

It's really a shame and besides of Clark not having earned his job, because he definetly has no college degree and no interest and experience in being a journalist till today at all there's something else that bothers me.

I love superman and the whole story about this superhero and as it is, when you love somebody, you want to be proud of him and of what he does, achieves etc. Sorry, if this sounds cheesy, but I can't explain it in another way.

It bothers me a lot, when I can't feel proud of him, in this case with Smallville's Clark Kent now, concerning how or why he got his job at the DP.
I don't think he deserves to be there, because he didn't anything to achieve this job, he didn't even show any interest to be there till now, nor he didn't ever mention that one of his dreams is to be a reporter one day, like Chloe did so often.

He didn't want to work for Lex/the Luthor's, now he contradicted himself and he's doing just that - well, maybe we get the reason for his out of the blue decision in one of the next episodes, but I highly doubt it.

jimmyolsenblues
09-24-2008, 05:46 AM
Clark working at the Daily Planet, it's about damn time!! Clark and Lois will be seeing each other more often now, does it also mean clois will finally happen? Anywayz Clark, welcome to the Daily Planet!

I agree, clark is a reporter now across from lois, I like it.
the problem for me is , they should have this a plot line all last year. now it felt rushed in the last season's premier, do you know what i mean?

Yasise
09-24-2008, 05:51 AM
I agree, clark is a reporter now across from lois, I like it.
the problem for me is , they should have this a plot line all last year. now it felt rushed in the last season's premier, do you know what i mean?

They should have had that plotline from season 1, like they did it with Chloe. A slowly but gradually development of his interest in being a reporter and of course a proper education to be able to become one....

Hopefulsuicide
09-24-2008, 06:07 AM
the nicest thing about the LnC pilot was how much work they put into explaining how he got his job. and it was so sweet. he got turned away because he had only written for weird small newspapers and wasn't taken seriously. he heard perry talking about a theatre being knocked down a found an elderly lady inside who had a really heart felt story, giving the fluff peice a half decent angle. and Perry was so impressed by his initiative and writing style, he hired him.

now i'm not saying that it shud have been exactly like that, but it would have worked. Clark handing in the stuff he's done for the torch and getting very much turned away, but overhearing something, using his powers to get to the story even, and then coming back with a decent well written story and telling the editor he will prove himself. still not totally realistic but it would have been an attempt at actually visualising his journey from no one to reporter, instead of just jumping it

newbaggy
09-24-2008, 06:43 AM
Oddly enough, I don't mind the closing scene in "Odyssey", simply because I see it as Clark's arrival at the DP from Lois' point of view: what isn't so important at that point is how he got there; what matters is that it comes as a surprise to Lois. Effectively, it mirrors the scene at Black Creek where Clark comes across Lois: we don't know in detail how she got in (other than a hint that it was a bluff), because we start from Clark's point of view (he isn't expecting to see her, so it is as if she appeared out of nowhere).

Having said that, I would hope that a more detailed explanation is dropped in along the way. One possible retcon (all right - piece of blatant cheating!) would be to suggest that other members of staff at the DP actually did notice that Clark kept spending a lot of time in the building. Chloe and/or Lois could have covered for him on occasions, claiming that he was some sort of "stringer" for the Smallville Ledger or similar (after all, Chloe had managed to get him a press pass in "Fade"). Therefore, when his application form comes into the DP, somebody spots it as coming from "that guy who's always in the basement", and it gets considered (not a great reason, but better than nothing). No doubt the reason we will get in "Smallville" is along the lines of "Tess spotted his application, and wanted Clark at the DP as an excuse to find out more about him".

TOMophilus
09-24-2008, 07:01 AM
the nicest thing about the LnC pilot was how much work they put into explaining how he got his job. and it was so sweet. he got turned away because he had only written for weird small newspapers and wasn't taken seriously.
:lol: Exactly. "Mating rituals of the knob-tailed gecko" in the Borneo Gazette. That was hilarious.

Theshadow129x
09-24-2008, 08:48 AM
the thing is as well is that the investigative journalism didnt have to start in high school or season 1. it could have started in season 5 when he started college. I was really in love with Smallville in season 5 when Milton Fine asked Clark to investigate Luthorcorp with him because it was a sign that the show was moving forward and Clark was headed towards being Superman. The thing that killed me was when they decided to drop him out of college and drop that investigation storyline all together. it would have been an amazing storyline and also see Clark come into his own with investigative journalism. i was really angry when they revealed Milton Fine to be brainiac so soon because i really wanted them to build up to it while doing the election. ugh. This show has so much potential and the people who helm the project dont even realize it. they drop the ball in someway when it cmes to the main story that should matter only to address some kind of subplot like the lana and Clark relationship.

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besides with Clark application and lack of experience...he shouldnt get a staff job he should be given a job in the mail room

stenochick
09-24-2008, 10:18 AM
the thing is as well is that the investigative journalism didnt have to start in high school or season 1. it could have started in season 5 when he started college. I was really in love with Smallville in season 5 when Milton Fine asked Clark to investigate Luthorcorp with him because it was a sign that the show was moving forward and Clark was headed towards being Superman. The thing that killed me was when they decided to drop him out of college and drop that investigation storyline all together. it would have been an amazing storyline and also see Clark come into his own with investigative journalism. i was really angry when they revealed Milton Fine to be brainiac so soon because i really wanted them to build up to it while doing the election. ugh. This show has so much potential and the people who helm the project dont even realize it. they drop the ball in someway when it cmes to the main story that should matter only to address some kind of subplot like the lana and Clark relationship.

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besides with Clark application and lack of experience...he shouldnt get a staff job he should be given a job in the mail room

ITA with everything you said. The show is about Clark Kent for crying out loud. They spent years chronicling Chloe's passion for journalism and her journey to the Daily Planet, but for Clark, we get the journey of his torturous romance with Lana Lang.

Would it have been so hard to show him simply keeping a journal of his writing? Or sitting at a laptop writing stuff? At least we would learn that he wanted to be a journalist as opposed to a police officer or fireman or whatever because he loved not just investigating and solving the puzzle, but writing about it.

ginnyfan
09-24-2008, 10:27 AM
^I totally agree too. Season five would have been the perfect time to pick of Clark's journalism angle again. That would have been a great storyline. Then Clark would have had at least almost two years of college journalism.

He could have done a couple of freelance articles in Season Six as well.


Oddly enough, I don't mind the closing scene in "Odyssey", simply because I see it as Clark's arrival at the DP from Lois' point of view: what isn't so important at that point is how he got there; what matters is that it comes as a surprise to Lois. Effectively, it mirrors the scene at Black Creek where Clark comes across Lois: we don't know in detail how she got in (other than a hint that it was a bluff), because we start from Clark's point of view (he isn't expecting to see her, so it is as if she appeared out of nowhere).

Having said that, I would hope that a more detailed explanation is dropped in along the way. One possible retcon (all right - piece of blatant cheating!) would be to suggest that other members of staff at the DP actually did notice that Clark kept spending a lot of time in the building. Chloe and/or Lois could have covered for him on occasions, claiming that he was some sort of "stringer" for the Smallville Ledger or similar (after all, Chloe had managed to get him a press pass in "Fade"). Therefore, when his application form comes into the DP, somebody spots it as coming from "that guy who's always in the basement", and it gets considered (not a great reason, but better than nothing). No doubt the reason we will get in "Smallville" is along the lines of "Tess spotted his application, and wanted Clark at the DP as an excuse to find out more about him".

I like what you say about the mirroring. I also like the idea that Tess wants to continue Lex Luthor's investigation of Clark Kent. She is in his house after all. I'm sure his Clark room is still there.

I'm hoping for more of an explaination as time goes on. Just as they snuck in a mention of Chloe being in school they could sneak in a mention of Clark Kent writing a few articles somewhere. *sigh*

The situation is not ideal by any means but I can't say that I'm surprised. I was slightly disappointed when Lois gave him the application in "Arctic." I was relieved when he said no. I didn't expect him to get the job at the DP so quickly this season. Despite my disappointment I'm happy he's there and hopefully since right now we are in Lois' boat. Suprised and without details... It's a little early for outrage.

The ideal time for Clark's development in this area was squandered. I agree that Season Five would have been perfect in terms of study... Six and Seven Clark could have freelanced and now... DP. Ah well.

stenochick
09-24-2008, 10:38 AM
Honestly, I would be okay if they explain in the coming episodes that Ollie got Clark his job at the DP. I'm okay with him getting there because of the influence of his mom, the freshman senator from Kansas; or Perry White, the seasoned reporter; or Ollie, the billionaire; or Tess, the owner; or because the interviewer thought Clark was totally hot.

My issue is the lightswitch on his motivation for being a reporter. It is hard, often tedious work. You have to spend solitary hours researching and writing. Clark is more of a hero type, so I was hoping they would show why he wouldn't choose law enforcement or casework or medicine/healthcare as a way to get in the middle of the action and help people.

Why newspaper journalism? That's what I have wanted to see over the years. And I would be okay if the reason is simply that no one would expect a pensive, mild-mannered reporter to be Superman. That totally works for me. But, please, show it on the screen. We deserve to see it play out from Clark's mind to our tv screens.

BULLITT
09-24-2008, 10:43 AM
i find it funny people are seriously saying like "hey its fine, he's destined to be at the daily planet so its nice he's there." that doesnt prove anything. season 8's premiere proved to me without a doubt they didnt have the true progression of Clark kent planned out. He was just given his job. this was something smallville had the chance to truly explore over every over iteration of the superman/ clark kent mythology: Why does Clark want to be a reporter? Simply saying, I wanted to be in the middle of the action doesn't cut it. its a lame excuse. And saying he's diestined to be there is another cop-out because he doesn't nor anyone else knows what's he's destined for...not even jor-el.

The thing is that when you say he was destined to be a reporter, in this day and age he doesn't have to be a reporter...heck with his abilities to fly around all day and run and hear far away he really doesn't need to be a reporter so this was something that needed to be explored. This is just something so big on the character to just go and be ignored and Smallville ignored it for 7 years!

Saying he has super powers dont make him qualified because who the heck knows about his powers? no one! just him! and his powers dont make him qualified,we dont even know what kind of writer he is or what kid of reporter. Yeah we know he will be investigative but why not why just that area...things like that need to be implemented into the story but smallville dropped the ball with Clark Kent and completely stunted his growth and when they could have used season 8 as an area to see where he could go from last season they dont have him search they just throw him in the middle of where he was supposed to end up...at the DP. Its a light switch and dont say it isnt because it is!

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Perry isnt the editor and there isnt a sure thing if perry is even at the planet now. besides its still a cop out because Clark still has no experience nor love for being a reporter. period.

It most certainly is. Someone posted a picture in another thread, a newspaper article of the DP, with Perry's name on the by-line.

ginnyfan
09-24-2008, 10:45 AM
Honestly, I would be okay if they explain in the coming episodes that Ollie got Clark his job at the DP. I'm okay with him getting there because of the influence of his mom, the freshman senator from Kansas; or Perry White, the seasoned reporter; or Ollie, the billionaire; or Tess, the owner; or because the interviewer thought Clark was totally hot.

My issue is the lightswitch on his motivation for being a reporter. It is hard, often tedious work. You have to spend solitary hours researching and writing. Clark is more of a hero type, so I was hoping they would show why he wouldn't choose law enforcement or casework or medicine/healthcare as a way to get in the middle of the action and help people.

Why newspaper journalism? That's what I have wanted to see over the years. And I would be okay if the reason is simply that no one would expect a pensive, mild-mannered reporter to be Superman. That totally works for me. But, please, show it on the screen. We deserve to see it play out from Clark's mind to our tv screens.

I see what you're saying. In the early seasons he says that he's considering Journalism as a career. It just fell to the wayside a bit in Season 3. Throughout the show he investigated a lot and in Seasons 1, 2, 4 and 5 the investigations often ended up as articles... though not written by him.

In a Season 7 deleted scene Clark comes to the DP and asks Lois to use her computer. He's desperate... I think it's in Arctic after Chloe has been in the coma. So that gives a little hint that... Clark really relies on the DP computer system and database, Chloe or no Chloe. Perhaps right now... he wants access to it for hero purposes.

BULLITT
09-24-2008, 10:46 AM
Seriously, the criteria for having a job is to love it?

You must be 'The Traveller'.:rotfl:

knightofkrypton
09-24-2008, 11:37 AM
They should have had that plotline from season 1, like they did it with Chloe. A slowly but gradually development of his interest in being a reporter and of course a proper education to be able to become one....

thats my thing, I just feel lied too now. This show was supposed to be about his gradual growth and evolution towards becoming the man that we know and love as Superman/Clark Kent.

But he stopped growing somewhere around season 3 and was stagnant for several seasons, then now suddenly he's almost where he needs to be? That just makes this show pointless and a waste of time to me.

stenochick
09-24-2008, 12:03 PM
thats my thing, I just feel lied too now. This show was supposed to be about his gradual growth and evolution towards becoming the man that we know and love as Superman/Clark Kent.

But he stopped growing somewhere around season 3 and was stagnant for several seasons, then now suddenly he's almost where he needs to be? That just makes this show pointless and a waste of time to me.

I feel your frustration, but I don't think we need to go so far as saying the show is pointless and a waste of time.

The Clark Kent/Superman myth is one of many myths portraying the hero archetype. In all these myths, the protagonist goes through a process where he/she is stagnant for a while, before he/she comes to his/her final rebirth or transformation into the true hero they were destined to become.

knightofkrypton
09-24-2008, 03:57 PM
I feel your frustration, but I don't think we need to go so far as saying the show is pointless and a waste of time.

The Clark Kent/Superman myth is one of many myths portraying the hero archetype. In all these myths, the protagonist goes through a process where he/she is stagnant for a while, before he/she comes to his/her final rebirth or transformation into the true hero they were destined to become.


I understand that....but several years of stagnation and one year of transformation?

Theshadow129x
09-24-2008, 09:12 PM
It most certainly is. Someone posted a picture in another thread, a newspaper article of the DP, with Perry's name on the by-line.

if it isnt addressed to the general audience then it doesnt count.

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Honestly, I would be okay if they explain in the coming episodes that Ollie got Clark his job at the DP. I'm okay with him getting there because of the influence of his mom, the freshman senator from Kansas; or Perry White, the seasoned reporter; or Ollie, the billionaire; or Tess, the owner; or because the interviewer thought Clark was totally hot.

My issue is the lightswitch on his motivation for being a reporter. It is hard, often tedious work. You have to spend solitary hours researching and writing. Clark is more of a hero type, so I was hoping they would show why he wouldn't choose law enforcement or casework or medicine/healthcare as a way to get in the middle of the action and help people.

Why newspaper journalism? That's what I have wanted to see over the years. And I would be okay if the reason is simply that no one would expect a pensive, mild-mannered reporter to be Superman. That totally works for me. But, please, show it on the screen. We deserve to see it play out from Clark's mind to our tv screens.

i think also its his motivation that bothers me but also how he gets there which is unbelievable. both things bug me. Clark certainly doesnt aspire to be a hero nor a reporter, he didnt once last year yet all the sudden thats what we got this season. also he didnt aspire to be a reporter yet thats what we got this season out of no where. its like we got the things we asked for but there's no substance behind the reward.

ginnyfan
09-24-2008, 10:14 PM
I understand that....but several years of stagnation and one year of transformation?

Yeah... it sucks. They had plenty of time to develop Clark in the area of journalism.

Cogito17
09-24-2008, 10:58 PM
Well, I think there is one thing that should be pointed out in terms of Clark's interest in being a reporter. I thought his line about "being in the middle of the action" explained the "why" of him being a reporter. It doesn't necessarily have to be out of interest in journalism, he simply wants to be somewhere where it will facilitate him making a difference... having an interest in journalism can develop out of him getting the job for the stated purpose of "being in the middle of the action". I don't think Clark has to be particularly interested in journalism just yet, as I said, that can be a by-product of him placing himself at the DP for the reasons of being somewhere where he is easily informed of potential dangers/disasters/etc.

The "how" of him getting the job is a can of worms I don't want to open/re-open. It really just boils down to how much you are willing to susupend belief. I agree its not the most realistic, but its not completely unrealistic either, especially given the nature of the show/the DP's hiring practices with Chloe/Lois.

Theshadow129x
09-25-2008, 12:45 AM
Well, I think there is one thing that should be pointed out in terms of Clark's interest in being a reporter. I thought his line about "being in the middle of the action" explained the "why" of him being a reporter. It doesn't necessarily have to be out of interest in journalism, he simply wants to be somewhere where it will facilitate him making a difference... having an interest in journalism can develop out of him getting the job for the stated purpose of "being in the middle of the action". I don't think Clark has to be particularly interested in journalism just yet, as I said, that can be a by-product of him placing himself at the DP for the reasons of being somewhere where he is easily informed of potential dangers/disasters/etc.

The "how" of him getting the job is a can of worms I don't want to open/re-open. It really just boils down to how much you are willing to susupend belief. I agree its not the most realistic, but its not completely unrealistic either, especially given the nature of the show/the DP's hiring practices with Chloe/Lois.

i can see where you are going with this but at the same timethe thing is that you can be in the middle of the action in another job besides journalism. theres police officers in action, firefighters, national gaurd, coast guards, etc. other things he can do...why journalism..this is what the show should have answered. we didnt and wont get that more than likely.

stenochick
09-25-2008, 09:00 AM
i can see where you are going with this but at the same timethe thing is that you can be in the middle of the action in another job besides journalism. theres police officers in action, firefighters, national gaurd, coast guards, etc. other things he can do...why journalism..this is what the show should have answered. we didnt and wont get that more than likely.

You know, i was about to write that if he wanted a job on the spot, he should have gone to his local army recruitment office. he would totally be in the middle of the action. but then i realized with the military or law enforcement, there would be all kinds of physicals and urine tests to fake to hide the fact that he is an alien.

i think a desk job as a reporter will provide him with more anonimity and keep him in the middle of the action.

but, like you, all i want is to hear an explanation for it from clark himself.

geminis
09-25-2008, 09:16 AM
Careers in law, civil service, medicine, etc have their limitations. Paper work, partners, set hours; as an investigative journalist Clark has a lot more freedom to do what he does best, save people.

Hopefulsuicide
09-25-2008, 09:25 AM
also, i think when everyone around you is involved in journalism (lois, chloe, jimmy... even lex was to a certain extent owning the paper), it would start to become more and more appealing as it's safe, it's a familiar place. he has spent a lot of time in that newsroom with his friends, so it's a much less scary place to try and get a job.

i think i can see WHY he wanted to work at the DP, i just don't see how he could get what he wants

Clark-Kalel
09-25-2008, 09:40 AM
I'm with everyone else. I hope that they explain how he got the job, however, Im just excited to finally seeing him moving toward his destiny. As with most of the fans of the show, I believe that Clark should have been alot closer to his destiny by now then he is. Im going to hold out on getting to upset until tonights episode to see if tptb finally give an explanation. But if they dont I dont care as long as we dont see Clark regressing instead of embracing his new outlook on life.

Here is to hoping that tonights show will not let us down!

Mr.Magic
09-25-2008, 01:57 PM
i can see where you are going with this but at the same timethe thing is that you can be in the middle of the action in another job besides journalism.

No, he can't.
Clark isn't just some action junkie. He zips around all over the world saving people, for this he has to know where he's needed.

HalJordan4184
09-25-2008, 03:17 PM
No, he can't.
Clark isn't just some action junkie. He zips around all over the world saving people, for this he has to know where he's needed.


This argument isn't valid anymore though, and hasn't been since abouth the 1960's. Television and the internet are much more up to the minute with regards to news. Local news might be the only thing the newspaper is right up there with other sources on, but even then, it's usually after the fact reporting. Clark being into journalism to know where he's needed, inheritantly puts him on a delay with receiving this information. That's why starting in the late 60's, adn 70's, Superman actually worked the TV news, as both a field reporter and anchor. With the Byrne revamp, Clark is a newsman, because he loves being a journalist, and it gives him a pretty flexible schedule to work with.

Kevin24
09-25-2008, 03:34 PM
Clark working at the Daily Planet is something that is part of his comic book persona so they have to put him there on Smallville. It's true that Clark has shown talent for writing and Perry White saw great potential in him reading his articles from the Torch. Although, he has talent Clark himself hasn't shown great interest in journalism. He has been heard saying that he can't see himself as a reporter many times during the series.

After high school his interest for journalism has died down a lot and hasn't really been mentioned since Fade in season 5. I can see how people consider it light switching on the part of the writers because he hasn't shown any interest with it for most of the show and now he is working there.

Lois offered him the application in last years season finale and he declined the application most likely because he didn't want to leave the farm and stay in his life with Lana. After the premiere epsiode he realizes that he has been holding on to the past and that it's time to let go. He remembers the application that Lois left him and he sees a job at the Daily Planet as a step forward in his new life. A big step up from his days as a farmboy and quiet hero.

I see him working at the Daily Planet not as him loving journalism all over again but a step in the right direction for his new life away from his past on the farm.

Do we know why he got the job at the planet? No, we only know that he turned in his application and got hired. I hope they explain why he was hired in tonight's epsiode but I don't know if it will satisfy everyone's questions.

Since they haven't consistently shown him working towards a career in journalism and writing throughout the series....I agree with people who say it's a light switch, pushing fast forward on the vcr (or dvd player nowadays) etc......

I have to say though that I am just happy he is working at the Daily Planet with Lois and I don't care how he got there as long as he is there. So it doesn't bother me.

Mr.Magic
09-25-2008, 03:49 PM
This argument isn't valid anymore though, and hasn't been since abouth the 1960's. Television and the internet are much more up to the minute with regards to news. Local news might be the only thing the newspaper is right up there with other sources on, but even then, it's usually after the fact reporting. Clark being into journalism to know where he's needed, inheritantly puts him on a delay with receiving this information. That's why starting in the late 60's, adn 70's, Superman actually worked the TV news, as both a field reporter and anchor. With the Byrne revamp, Clark is a newsman, because he loves being a journalist, and it gives him a pretty flexible schedule to work with.

Show me one cop (or whatever) that is able to listen to incoming news (or even watch them on newsroom monitors like on Lois & Clark) during working hours, and is always able to get away on the spot - without getting his partner killed.

@Kevin24

Clark's first school essay on Smallville (episode 2 or 3) was about what career path he might take, it was that of a journalist. Everything Clark said and did (esp. after Loeb left) you can just blame on AlMiles non-existing knowledge of the character.

Hopefulsuicide
09-25-2008, 04:40 PM
Show me one cop (or whatever) that is able to listen to incoming news (or even watch them on newsroom monitors like on Lois & Clark) during working hours, and is always able to get away on the spot - without getting his partner killed.

i'm sorry i really dont understand your point...

is it that it would be difficult for a cop to come up with excuses to leave whenever he hear trouble?

Kevin24
09-25-2008, 04:42 PM
@Kevin24

Clark's first school essay on Smallville (episode 2 or 3) was about what career path he might take, it was that of a journalist. Everything Clark said and did (esp. after Loeb left) you can just blame on AlMiles non-existing knowledge of the character.

Oh, it's been so long since I have seen Season 2 I don't remember any of that. I don't have the boxset yet and I haven't seen those episodes since they first aired. Thanks for clarifying that!

Cogito17
09-25-2008, 05:23 PM
This argument isn't valid anymore though, and hasn't been since abouth the 1960's. Television and the internet are much more up to the minute with regards to news. Local news might be the only thing the newspaper is right up there with other sources on, but even then, it's usually after the fact reporting. Clark being into journalism to know where he's needed, inheritantly puts him on a delay with receiving this information. That's why starting in the late 60's, adn 70's, Superman actually worked the TV news, as both a field reporter and anchor. With the Byrne revamp, Clark is a newsman, because he loves being a journalist, and it gives him a pretty flexible schedule to work with.

Are you saying that the internet/television make the need to be at the DP for information obsolete? (just clarifying)

Most respectable newspapers (See NYT, Wall Street Journal, etc) all have websites with up to date information. Presumably, so would the Daily Planet, thereby allowing Clark to be informed about as quickly as possible. The internet means faster communication, but someone still has to post that information to the web. You may say that the speed of communication with the internet makes the need to be at the DP a moot point, but those few minutes between the news arriving at the DP and being posted on the internet/broadcast on T.V. could be the difference between life and death for those who are in danger.

Mr.Magic
09-25-2008, 05:40 PM
i'm sorry i really dont understand your point...

is it that it would be difficult for a cop to come up with excuses to leave whenever he hear trouble?

That too*, but more important is that he just wouldn't have instant access to live feeds about disasters happening, at least not outside Metropolis, like trouble with the space station, a mudslide in brasil, earthquake in China etc. The bigger the desaster, the bigger the chance some reporter colleague will mention it.

*Try explaining to your partner why you were gone for several hours (repairing the Great Wall). It's easier to tell your editor that you were out following a lead, or covering Superman (if the trouble was local). Besides, Clark loves writing, even novels.

HalJordan4184
09-25-2008, 07:27 PM
The problem is, even int he comics, Clark isn't hearing about these things through work. You know where he gets his info, listening into radio and TV broadcasts, which are up to the minute, unlike the newspaper industry. The man doesn't have to be in a newsroom, to get up to the minute info. He has superhearing, and can listen into the radio and TV broadcasts, as they cross the country. There is hardly such a thing as breaking news in teh newspaper industry anymore.

Newspapers are still around, and still vital, because they get a more in depth story than the 30 seconds of coverage you'd get on the evening news.

And like I said, Clark likes being a newspaper reporter. It has nothign to do with cops or anything else, and nothing I said even remotely implied Clark should be a cop. If anything, I flat out said it gives him the flexible schedule he needs to be out for hours at a time, or even days, before coming in with a front page story.

knightofkrypton
09-25-2008, 10:33 PM
This argument isn't valid anymore though, and hasn't been since abouth the 1960's. Television and the internet are much more up to the minute with regards to news. Local news might be the only thing the newspaper is right up there with other sources on, but even then, it's usually after the fact reporting. Clark being into journalism to know where he's needed, inheritantly puts him on a delay with receiving this information. That's why starting in the late 60's, adn 70's, Superman actually worked the TV news, as both a field reporter and anchor. With the Byrne revamp, Clark is a newsman, because he loves being a journalist, and it gives him a pretty flexible schedule to work with.

EXACTLY!!! With the internet, AND with the modern Superman's powers, working in a newsroom to stay ahead of the news is completely outdated.

That excuse worked for the 30's through 50's but now in today's world, Clark has to WANT to be come a Reporter for other reasons.

THAT'S what I want to see.....stories about WHY and HOW he decides to become a reporter.

SV did not give me that.

Theshadow129x
09-25-2008, 11:34 PM
^thats the point i've been trying to get across but we arent getting that at all

Mr.Magic
09-26-2008, 07:47 AM
EXACTLY!!! With the internet, AND with the modern Superman's powers, working in a newsroom to stay ahead of the news is completely outdated.

That excuse worked for the 30's through 50's but now in today's world, Clark has to WANT to be come a Reporter for other reasons.

THAT'S what I want to see.....stories about WHY and HOW he decides to become a reporter.

SV did not give me that.

Who do you think is writing the articles you read on news webpages? And since when are we getting live news coverage on the internet? Videos are mostly posted not streamed.
Depending on the situation, he needs "spare" time to screen the news (where immediate action is required), or assist for the cases (mostly Lois for bouncing ideas & Jimmy for research).

Besides, Clark even stated his reason for working at the DP in episode 2. Don't force me to quote him.

RedKRules
09-26-2008, 03:47 PM
First off, I've been watching this show since it started and I've been waiting to see Clark get into the DP. Thank you for ruining it. Is the DP the new Burger King of Smallville? Because if all it takes is for someone to fill in an application and they are hired, with no qualifications, no resume and definitely no interview, then I suggest you let everyone in Smallville work at the DP. It will save you the money you are investing in other sets and really, it will be convenient to have everyone in one set

This post above describes Exactly my thoughts about Clark being at the DP!

Hopefulsuicide
09-27-2008, 06:54 AM
Besides, Clark loves writing, even novels.

where, in Smallville, have they shown Clark loves writing. give me one instance...

clark has done a little bit of writing for chloe at the torch, but he never looked like he enjoyed it

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Who do you think is writing the articles you read on news webpages? And since when are we getting live news coverage on the internet? Videos are mostly posted not streamed.
Depending on the situation, he needs "spare" time to screen the news (where immediate action is required), or assist for the cases (mostly Lois for bouncing ideas & Jimmy for research).

Besides, Clark even stated his reason for working at the DP in episode 2. Don't force me to quote him.

no one said anything about the internet :confused:

sorry but your posts just aren't making any sense to me. he doesn't need spare time. Superman doesn't spend ages planning who to save next. he hears cries for help and follows those cries.

he flies over the city listening out for people who need his help. when there is a huge disaster, he usually hears about it on the tv, or the radio

being a reporter helps him save some people, because usually lois and clark's investigations lead to uncovering something horrible. but it's got nothing to do with breaking news

curiosity
09-27-2008, 07:21 AM
where, in Smallville, have they shown Clark loves writing. give me one instance...

clark has done a little bit of writing for chloe at the torch, but he never looked like he enjoyed it

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being a reporter helps him save some people, because usually lois and clark's investigations lead to uncovering something horrible. but it's got nothing to do with breaking news

Clark became a reporter at the Daily Planet so he could stay close to the action. The Daily Planet is the top world newspaper in the story of Superman Lois and Clark investigate and find out the truth behind breaking news, and who the bad guys, so it's dangerous which is perfect for Clark.

In Plastique, the news reported the explosion, no one knew who caused the explosion and Clark had a reason to be there and use superhearing and finding out what really happened.

He gets a job at the Daily Planet to stay close to the action, that's the way it is in every movie, in every show, because that's actually a huge fact in the story, it's not a small detail.

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The problem is, even int he comics, Clark isn't hearing about these things through work. You know where he gets his info, listening into radio and TV broadcasts, which are up to the minute, unlike the newspaper industry. The man doesn't have to be in a newsroom, to get up to the minute info. He has superhearing, and can listen into the radio and TV broadcasts, as they cross the country. There is hardly such a thing as breaking news in teh newspaper industry anymore.

Newspapers are still around, and still vital, because they get a more in depth story than the 30 seconds of coverage you'd get on the evening news.

And like I said, Clark likes being a newspaper reporter. It has nothign to do with cops or anything else, and nothing I said even remotely implied Clark should be a cop. If anything, I flat out said it gives him the flexible schedule he needs to be out for hours at a time, or even days, before coming in with a front page story.

HalJordan4184
09-27-2008, 05:04 PM
No, he's not paid to be around everything that happens. Investigative reporters, and field reporters, are very different things. That's one thing I wish they'd get right. An investigative reporter, might write one story in six months. They might have parts in every couple issues, but they are tied to one investigation, and get one full, in depth thing done. They aren't out everyday with the up to the minute news, and the car wrecks, and accidents, and all that. That is not an investigative reporters job.

Also, breaking news, and the big things that happen, always go through local channels first. Do you know how the news knows whats going on. They have scanners to listen to police and fire bands, and they watch CNN, ABC, MSNBC, etc. The bull pen of the a major newspaper, is not the place to be to find up to the minute news, on whats going on world wide, or even city wide. I can do that better from my living room with a scanner, than Clark can from the bull pen.

Now, Clark's job as an investigative reporter is still awesome, and worthwhile. That's why, since the mid eighties til now, Clark Kent has had this job in other media. He actually likes doing it. He doesn't do it to get informed of emergencies and other crises, he does it, because he likes it. He's just always wanted to be a reporter, like other people wanted to be car mechanics, nurses, firefighters, cops, emt's, or architects. That's a much better, and more realistic angle to take today.

ginnyfan
09-27-2008, 05:56 PM
where, in Smallville, have they shown Clark loves writing. give me one instance...

clark has done a little bit of writing for chloe at the torch, but he never looked like he enjoyed it

Season 2, Episode 6: Redux

It's near the end of the episode. Principal Reynolds gave Clark an assignment because he seems directionless. Clark has to write an essay about where he'll be in five years. At the end of the episode he announces that he's finished his essay.

Lana: So where you gonna be in 5 years?
Clark: In college, probably studying Journalism. Don't tell Chloe, but I think it's growing on me. I like to find the truth behind things.

So... It's been a while. And as has already been said, they dropped the ball in Season 5 when Clark didn't have a Journalism arc but... here's at least ONE instance for you.

:)

curiosity
09-27-2008, 06:02 PM
No, he's not paid to be around everything that happens. Investigative reporters, and field reporters, are very different things. That's one thing I wish they'd get right. An investigative reporter, might write one story in six months. They might have parts in every couple issues, but they are tied to one investigation, and get one full, in depth thing done. They aren't out everyday with the up to the minute news, and the car wrecks, and accidents, and all that. That is not an investigative reporters job.

Also, breaking news, and the big things that happen, always go through local channels first. Do you know how the news knows whats going on. They have scanners to listen to police and fire bands, and they watch CNN, ABC, MSNBC, etc. The bull pen of the a major newspaper, is not the place to be to find up to the minute news, on whats going on world wide, or even city wide. I can do that better from my living room with a scanner, than Clark can from the bull pen.



No one said they got up to the minute news, they investigate the news. And when they investigate they're out every day around action. They're definately not sitting home. They stop the larger, bigger disasters from happening. Clark IS paid to be around the action.

This is really a matter of opinion. And how much time they spend on a story is speculative. That would depend on the story, and how much investigating they do. In Lois and Clark the New Adventures of Superman, Lois uses a police scanner a few times.

Theshadow129x
09-28-2008, 08:40 PM
Season 2, Episode 6: Redux

It's near the end of the episode. Principal Reynolds gave Clark an assignment because he seems directionless. Clark has to write an essay about where he'll be in five years. At the end of the episode he announces that he's finished his essay.

Lana: So where you gonna be in 5 years?
Clark: In college, probably studying Journalism. Don't tell Chloe, but I think it's growing on me. I like to find the truth behind things.

So... It's been a while. And as has already been said, they dropped the ball in Season 5 when Clark didn't have a Journalism arc but... here's at least ONE instance for you.

:)

thats one instance though not something they built up on. it came and went and since then we barely saw clark show a passion for the job. if you are going to bring up something in a story or tv show it needs to be built upon not hinted at and then let go for it to respawn later.

ginnyfan
09-28-2008, 10:32 PM
^I agree. I think I said that in my post. They dropped the ball by not continuing to develop it. Someone... maybe you... pointed out that Season 5 would have been the perfect time for Clark to study Journalism and continue that arc.

Theshadow129x
09-29-2008, 12:39 AM
what i would have loved was for them to build on this to be honest. I mean I know the show was under the direction of Almiles for a long time, but they could have slowly recovered from their misinterpretation of Clark Kent, by them im speaking of Ps3.

What they should have done was take a few episodes of Clark figuring out whats next. Maybe tell Chloe he'll look into helping people more...and have him do that and write about the experience and turn in the articles for freelance to the planet or the ledger before he got the job at the planet. either way he would grow to like writing and saving people instead of giving him a job out of no where in which we dont even know if this guy can read much less write. i dont know i just think they dropped the ball on developing the key/ central character and their paying dearly for it.

Yasise
09-29-2008, 02:23 AM
what i would have loved was for them to build on this to be honest. I mean I know the show was under the direction of Almiles for a long time, but they could have slowly recovered from their misinterpretation of Clark Kent, by them im speaking of Ps3.

What they should have done was take a few episodes of Clark figuring out whats next. Maybe tell Chloe he'll look into helping people more...and have him do that and write about the experience and turn in the articles for freelance to the planet or the ledger before he got the job at the planet. either way he would grow to like writing and saving people instead of giving him a job out of no where in which we dont even know if this guy can read much less write. i dont know i just think they dropped the ball on developing the key/ central character and their paying dearly for it.

Agreed. Unfortunately they really screwed it up. They forgot to concentrate on their main character for a long time now and now all of a sudden, as if they finally woke up from a nightmare, they are back again.
This show had so much potential and they didn't use it because of all these soap drama going on for so long. Clark was more often the supporting character in the last seasons. They loosed track and now they're trying to repair the damage.

But to do that they had to rush the development now and of course the plausibility suffers from that.
We can do nothing but take it as it is and look forward, even if it's leaving an unsatisfied feeling in our hearts. :(

Hopefulsuicide
09-29-2008, 05:07 AM
In Lois and Clark the New Adventures of Superman, Lois uses a police scanner a few times.

not that i remember...

she stole Mason Drakes beeper to find an adress by chasing the numbers, and she get's a lot of information out of the police through Inspector Henderson and people like that, but i don't recall he ever using a police scanner... i guess i could be wrong

but you want to start using LnC as an example, how about the fact they have TV's in the news room. on every channel. because you get breaking news through TV news...