Return of Clark's Powers

[superspider02]

Did you like or dislike how clark's powers were returned?

[MBrittan]

Hasn't happened yet. You're jumping the gun. Slow down.

[Ray Man]

I'm assuming that either Jor-el or MM/JJ somehow gives Clark back his powers. That's mostly how Clark has gotten his powers back on the show...so far. The writers need to come up w/better ways for Clark to get his powers back

[TECHWON]

Man This Is Good

[kal-odell]

The writers need to come up w/better ways for Clark to get his powers back

Or maybe than can just stop taking his powers. It's his physiology not his gift.

[lastwords]

I cant believe that he almost died, i wonder where everyone is (Chloe, green arrow, AC and Black Canary....Lois..) I guess we will find out in 2 seconds

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Well at least Clark has finally decided to leave the farm. Oh and BTW. I am sooo glad that the green arrow will be in this series alot, or i hope so now that he is in the main credits. Plus whos this ***** at lex's desk?

[origin]

I really liked the way Clarks powers were returned, Great scene

[Kal26]

I figured his powers would be gone just long enough to hook us.

[rconner]

Awesome effect

[Kel-El09]

I mean, there's only so many times you can die before you start running out of ways to restore his powers lol!!! But I liked it!! Loved the special effects when MM was taking Clark out of Earths atmosphere!! Amazing...and I also thought it was touching that MM risked his life to save Clark's, especially when he was only supposed to be his "guardian"

OOOHH!! Also loved after Oliver shot Clark!! When he snapped out of it....and ran over to Clark...he was freakin teary eyed!! OOH! Awesome!

[Routh]

Kind of... didn't make sense? That means his powers weren't stripped. His energy was just drained. After all the struggle to get the device to "control" Clark, you'd think it'd do more than that.

[Meteror Freak]

I don't get how his powers came back from getting alot of sunlight, I'm so sick of Jor-El taking away Clark's powers. I hope it never ever happens again. Oh and by the way, how did the Martian Manhunter and Clark get back to Earth if he lost his powers? Clark certaintly wasn't the one who flew them back.....or did he????

[Karafan1]

It was interesting but if the sun took away Martian Manhunter's powers, wouldn't he burn up in the atmosphere on the way back to smallville??

[s3dsmv]

It was interesting but if the sun took away Martian Manhunter's powers, wouldn't he burn up in the atmosphere on the way back to smallville??

i was thinking the same thing. that and perhaps the sun would have burnt him to a crisp.

[SnowBird]

Clark getting his powers back looked great. They really soared away from the earth. I liked it a lot. Poor MM with no powers now.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Didn't bug me, in other incarnations Superman/Clark got his powers from Earth's YELLOW sun........

[REebee52]

I liked the episodes, but it had it's flaws. Like this: Clark is human. Flying him to sun doesn't give Humans powers. It melts them. And Martian Manhunter is extremely susceptible to fire, it's his 'kryptonite.' Thus, I feel like the sun wasn't the best way to go about that...

I loved how the Fortress refolded into the Crystal though. Great touch.

[Conner Kent]

Clark getting his powers back looked great. They really soared away from the earth. I liked it a lot. Poor MM with no powers now.

I have to agree that the choice to have J'onn save him was a great choice, but I can't believe they stripped him of his powers to give Clark his powers back. And I think they completely missed a great chance for a pun after MM asks Clark how he feels. "Super" would have been the correct answer.

[geminis]

i was thinking the same thing. that and perhaps the sun would have burnt him to a crisp.

Clark Kent: heat shield.

But taking away Martian Manhunter's powers frustrates me no end. When he was wounded before he had to leave Earth's atmosphere to heal. With Clark still refusing to defy gravity and Kara off in phantom land, J'onn is stuck as well. But Martian Manhunter is too powerful to have with Clark still pre-Superman.

[BadToad]

I didn't really get it. His powers were just restored from MM flying him to the sun? And if that depowered MM, how did they get back to Earth?

I have to vote disliked, because I thought it was poorly explained.

[jazzylg]

Yes, obviuosly Jor-el stripped clark of every erg of yellow sun radiation, and mm gave him a 'mega dose' recharge. Which is rather absurd, seeing that he had recieved uv exposure, while a captive of the russians, so, he should have had a least a small amount of power. If a kryptonian from the phantom zone gets instant powers upon emergance, it's insane that clark gets beat to a pulp,killed, and then restored with a sun tan!:rolleyes:

[susangail]

It wasn't explained well at all, but I was okay with that. They had so much ground to cover in 45 minutes that I'm mostly okay with the editorial decisions they made.

[Princess_Kara]

I liked how Clark was able to get back his powers. It was very meaningful that Clark's powers were restored. (The way Martian Manhunter's powers were sacrificed to aid in the restoration of Clark's.)They are both great heroes and I hope that MM's powers will be restored.

[Vergon6]

I wasn't sure what I thought about it. Do you think MM will get his powers restored after the Fortress is restored? After all, Martian Manhunter did sacrifice his powers for Clark.

[falcon64z8]

I thought it was ok how clark got his powers back. But what I don't understand is how they get back from the sun when Clark gets his powers back and MM lost his how did they fly back when Clark doesn't remember? Or how MM enter the Earth atmosphere without burning up if he is in human form, I think im looking into this way too much...

[Sneefomaster]

yeah i didn't understand how clark would have gotten his powers back. i thought he was stripped of his powers...green arrow's arrow went through him. clark shouldn't have been able to live going into space...i guess this is one of those "suspension of disbelief" moments.

the special effects for that scene were cool though

[ClareKent]

I say "It was Ok", I mean...I really expected a bit more of development about how Clark would get his powers back, but it made sense...the thing I didn't get either was how did they return to Earth if MM lost his powers ._.
The first of, I hope, not many plotholes in this season.

[superspider02]

Yes it was a very cool looking scene and i agree with you guys they didnt explain it enough. But hey so much was going on in the episode. As for the sun recharging him on earth compared to in space maybe with him being in close to the sun has a factor in it.

[Sneefomaster]

i think jazzy's explanation seems about right...clark's energy was completely drained and needed a mega-boost from the sun. and about martian manhunter's powers being gone...maybe he saved just enough to get back to Earth and thinks that they're gone? even though his weakness is fire, in the smallville universe the sun itself might be close enough to fire...and maybe he can still get his powers back by leaving Earth's atmosphere

[Cromartiefan]

Or maybe than can just stop taking his powers. It's his physiology not his gift.
This. It's getting silly now - how many times have we had:
A) Clark losing his powers
B) Clark almost dying
C) Clark's powers being restored just before death

(although I did predict that the method of "control" would be losing his powers. Mainly because originality isn't SV's strong point)

[Yasise]

I don't get how his powers came back from getting alot of sunlight, I'm so sick of Jor-El taking away Clark's powers. I hope it never ever happens again. Oh and by the way, how did the Martian Manhunter and Clark get back to Earth if he lost his powers? Clark certaintly wasn't the one who flew them back.....or did he????

Exactly, I wondered about that, too.


This. It's getting silly now - how many times have we had:
A) Clark losing his powers
B) Clark almost dying
C) Clark's powers being restored just before death

(although I did predict that the method of "control" would be losing his powers. Mainly because originality isn't SV's strong point)

Well, actually I'm thinking the same, but on the other hand, this show is going on now for 7 seasons and the 8th has just begun, so recurrences are bound to happen :(.

[baltazor]

I liked it although it raised a lot of questions. Like how did they get back in earth's atmosphere ??????? With MM stripped of his powers and Clark knocked out cold it needs a little explaining.
Anyway i hope Clark returns the favor and finds a way to give MM's powers back. He is handy to have around :) !!!!

[Super Maverick]

i didn't understand either

[costas22]

Wild guess.Remember in the movie Superman Returns when Superman moved the giant Kryptonite land?He didn't lose his powers at once.He gradually lost them.Maybe that's what happened to the MM.

[skylar]

Since MM gave up his powers for Clark does it mean that Clark has some of MM powers like flying.

[Yasise]

Since MM gave up his powers for Clark does it mean that Clark has some of MM powers like flying.

I don't think so. I'm afraid we still have to wait for Clark to be able to fly :(
MM loosing his powers doesn't mean Clark gets MM's powers, that would make no sense IMO.

[sithius]

Wild guess.Remember in the movie Superman Returns when Superman moved the giant Kryptonite land?He didn't lose his powers at once.He gradually lost them.Maybe that's what happened to the MM.

I agree with this. After a visit to the sun the radiation would stick with MM (as it does Clark; hence his capacity to store such radiation for his powers) and gradually weaken him. He would have enough time to struggle back to Earth with Clark in hand.

[Timester]

The speed that MM was flying was near speed of light. So the travel to the Sun and back was 30 mins max (I'm already counting the power boost). Don't see how couldn't J'ozz get back to Earth, since it's a 10 mins travel for him.

[DontCha]

was OK..they should have actually shown them being restored though IMO...then it would have been great.

[optinox]

The special effects were ok, could've been done better, i think they need to put more time in making those scenes look more realistic, better physics involved. Shows like supernatural, battle start galactica, even stargate sg1, atlantis use better, more realistic cgi effects, smallville should work on improving them, it's not always about budged, but the effort and touch ups you do to the special FX.

Second, i thought the opening season was pretty good, i think the new writers wanted to try and leave what happened in the past, and start on a fresh note with there new ideas. Now as for Clarks powers, only explaination is Jor-El stripped clarks powers to the point that in order for him to gain them he'd have to be near the sun, or get the crystal back and restor the FOS and ask Jor-El for help again. So the device allowed Jor-El to control him, not anyone else (good plan on his part), Clark would be useless by being depowered, and Jor-El knew when or if Clark ever decided to fullfill his destiny he'd find a way to get closer to the sun and power up again, either way Clark couldn't be controlled because it doesn't change who he is (being a good guy).

Flaws would be why didn't amount of sunlight he's been exposed to not restore his powers like we've seen in other eps? MM manhunter must have brought him close to the sun, probably not into...if so Clark would be super super powered up. Clark probably doesn't need to sit there wait to charge up like a battery, it seems he gains full power back instantly...so i'm assuming when MM and Clark were close enough Clarks powers came fully back, MM was depowered but had enough to fly them back down and use his own as well as Clarks protective Aura to not be harmed my earths atmostphere, MM wasn't hurt or in pain like what kryptonite does to C.K, it most likely stripped him of his major abilities, enough not to be physically hurt by the sun, that's my take on this.

I also liked the way the it was directed and the dark atmosphere, and how it was filmed when Clark was in Russia, that's the feeling and type of filiming i think they should stick with, especially during climatic and high points of the story, they did good, i still think they need to tone down clarks colours, the blue shirts, red jackets are too bright, they should be darker, i didn't like how black canary said he needed something form fitting, i thoiught it was a reference for tights, if they make a suit i hope they don't use tights or sometinng form fitting, they need something thats thicker than tights, it can be snug but it shoiuldn't show muscle definition, we'll see what happens, so far so good.

[Billy Jor-El]

It was OK, though I tire if the BDA loses his powers, he gets them back, he loses them, etc etc etc

All a bit rushed for my tastes, but the ep isn't that long thanks to commercial breaks so they have to move the story along at, uh, super speed.

I gave thought that it was a sort of transfer with the MM. As his powers faded saving Clark, then Clark saved him from being destroyed in open space.

Did MM transfer his ability to fly to Clark? No, Clark has always had the ability to fly, he's just too afraid to do it. remember, he said Kal-El can fly, Clark can't.

[KryptonStones]

That explanation of his powers returning had so many.....freakin plot holes. If they would've just said he was DRAINED of all energy then it would've been plausible. But when he said he was "human" he should've been burnt to a CRISP! And about MM returning to Earth...I just thought that MM's powers didn't vanish instantly and had a slow, gradual decrease...thus still having enough energy to return to Earth.

[getkuhl]

i believe the closer clark got to the upper atmostphere, the more the unfiltered sunlight began to heal him. he became replinished enough to go into space as he got closer and closer to space. and he may be as vulnerable as a human at some times, but clark is never a human, always a kryptonian. i believe that the crystal lex used drained clark completely, and the only way he would have every gotten them back was through unfiltered sunlight... he might have gotten them back very gradually on earth but we will never know that. that is why he hasnt reached full potential yet anyways, once he can fly he will be able to super charge himself outside of the atmosphere at any time...

[clarkbunny]

In Clark's defence with him saying he was 'human' he didn't have his powers so what else was he to think? Whether Jor-El stripped him of his powers or the device Lex used drained Clark's powers the effect was still the same - Clark wasn't to know he could get his powers back so he wouldn't have said 'my powers have been drained'.

I think it makes sense for him to heal outside of the earth's atmosphere closer to the sun - isn't that what we've seen in all the films and even in Bizarro.

As for the martian manhunter, we don't know WHEN he lost his powers. He could have lost them after he returned to earth. If he did lose them in space then as long as Clark had recovered to full power he could have got them back to earth - not flying exactly but as Buzz Lightyear would say - falling with style :lol:

[optinox]

Well i responded to this thread but this is what i think.....

1) The writers didn't have enough time to wrap up the Veritas storyline, if a majority of them didn't like the idea (not sure if this is true or just rumours), then it makes sense not to elaborate on it during season 8, simply forgive and forget and start fresh with the new writers taking control in where they want the story to go and end, which is understandable in my opinion.

2) Umm basically my thought, Jor-El was controlling clark by taking away his powers. We could assume by this point the AI or Jor-El would know that Kal-El didn't fullfill his destiny/complete his training and if had done his training would've turned out good. So i see this as a failsafe that Jor-El created just incase. That way Clark wouldn't be a threat to anyone, this would make sense if Clark had turned out evil instead of good. Unfortunately Clark didn't listen and an eager Lex who was persistent on finding out the truth found this device, this was not suppose to happen but did. I hope this is the last time he loses his powers, Clark should've learned earlier but had to repeat this lesson again, it makes him look weak and stupid that he chooses to defy Jor-El and each time humanity/earth are punished for his mistakes.

3) I believe Jor-El made the FOS collapse to protect it (fail safe mode again), and transferred back into Clarks Crystal that created it. Thats what Tess had at the end in the breifcase. I also think Jor-El protected Clark and Lex, but banished them into random areas, clark in russia and lex somewhere else. There was no remains or evidence of them being there, seems like they vanished in thin air, seems something Jor-El could do. i also think Lex will have some kind of memory loss, something that would prevent him from knowing that C.K is actually superman.

4) Clark getting his powers back, this should've been explained more, don't want the writers to start off doing what Al/Miles had done. My take Jor-El depleted them to almost the point of non existent. In my opinion he stripped him of his powers, and the only 2 ways clark would get his abilities back are 1 he got the crystal reformed the FOS and take Jor-El's guideance/teachings and do his training. Or #2 somehow get close enough the sun that it would cause him to gain them back-this being another Jor-El fail safe plan. We need to assume Jor-El is very wise and can forsee most things in Kal-Els journy/life on earth so fail safe plans make sense, Jor-El wasn't stupid when sending Kal-El to earth.

MM flew Clark close to the sun, probably not in it like some thing...close enough that Clark and MM would see nothing but bright light...by this time Clark would be instantly fully charged, MM energy would more than likely gradually deplete, but still having enough juice left to fly them back down to earth. We have to assume it's like Clark and Kyrptonite-Clark can has a tolerance level for green K, he just doesn't die instantly. MM is probably the same way with our sun, except no pain or anything cause he was able to have enough energy to get them back down, plus his and clarks aura's would protect either of them whether near the sun or through earths atmosphere anyways.

most viewers who don't know much about superman and see him as a battery-superman is not a solar battery. Supermans powers go beyond being exposed the yellow sun. The crappy thing about smallville is all the stuff we should know about Kryptonians, his training, abilities and stuff is so scattered throughout 8 years that putting the pieces the puzzle is complicated cause everything jumps around, and most times it's just small scenes...i think they needed a few episodes throughout these 8 years with more time spent explaining this things, cause smallville isn't just for superman fans. It's too late now to do that, but they could have an episode where Clark basically learns either from Jor-El or MM about Kryptonians, his desinty, abilities and stuff...they could make a good half our of MM talking to Clark one on one about the stuff he should know that Jor-El didn't get to say to him cause currently the FOS is nowhere to be found. Maybe a few things the writers could come up with would be....

a) powers from the sun, caused by Kyptonian genetic and molecular structure

b) power limits unknown

c) Is not a battery-does not drain or lose energy always fully powered unless explosed to green K or red sun.

d) doesn't know full extent or use full power limits, holds back all the time based on being brought up on earth and raised by humans.

Last but not least if you want o use green K and red sun as ways to weaken CK, thats fine but his power limits should be unknown. When Marvel B!tch$d about DC and superman being too strong taht was total malarky, marvel came out with the century who is very similar to supes and supposedly stronger. As well there's other villains who are supposedly strong or stronger in the comics...my thing is superman should really have no cap. I think as he ages his cells hold more and more energy, i would come up with a story saying, when he does sun dives for a period of time his cells mutate and re-create more cells which make him even stronger. But to quickly power up he could get close to the sun for a few seconds and be instantly charged, this scenario would make sense if lets say he went many years using his abilities at high levels with no yellow sun, then maybe deplete most of it and need a boost from the sun, a close fly by the sun would replenish his energy but a sun dip (going into the sun) for a longer length of time would cause his cells to mutate allowing him to hold even more energy, thus making him stronger than he was before. Unfortunately they make it less interesting with no background on this, and we see him as a battery...thats one thing they could do a twist on but make him look and be the iconic DC super hero he is without worry about what marvel or anyone else thinks, superman should be extremely powerful or he'd be just another character in tights, lol.

[moviefan2k4]

I just assumed that MM likely weakened steadily, but had enough energy left for the return trip. And sometimes, I just figure, "What the hell; it's TV, not a science lesson". Some things are better left alone, even if they don't always add up 100% (a prime example being the original deal that Swann made with Lionel in Season 3).

[unfocused]

Just as Clark didn't fully heal by his trip to the sun right away, MM didn't fully lose his powers right away. He didn't take Clark into the sun, he just got him close enough to heal him.

Their clothes weren't burned or anything. Being on Earth gives Clark incredible powers with THAT distance from the sun, it only makes sense that it could bring him back to life being even closer to it, just not close enough to torch their clothes or skin.

[yaseen101]

Just because he said he is human doesn't mean he has the same physiology of a human, lets see MM takes him deep into the space close to the sun and it heals Clark and restores his powers then MM uses his remaining powers to return to earth and retain his human form. The reason I believe that Clark couldn't get his powers back is because the sun's intensity wasn't enough to restore them, he has been on earth for a long time about 14 years before he discovered his powers so yeah it does kinda make sense.

[malft]

I get the impression that some of us are not reading Action Comics or Superman etc... which have used the sun regeneration of Clarks' powers many times. He can be stripped of his powers by magic also and in the Comic, Final Night, the Suneater has cloaked the Sun to devour its energy and Superman loses his powers completely. Even though by the resolution the Suneater is destroyed by Hal Jordan (Green Lantern) Clark is still without powers in the next Story Arc wherein he and Lois are reconsiled and tie the knot. Please consider reading the comics to more fully understand the characters and their motivations. Think of it as Homework. I personally have maintaned my subscriptions to all the Superman titles for several years. I also like to pick up the trade issues at the local comic shop, where a series such as, World without Superman or The Death of Clark Kent are gathered to save you from buying 20 back issues to enjoy the tale. As an after thought try finding Superman vs Muhammed Ali, a great story that I think should be the next Superman movie, with Will Smith playing Ali.

[Tatiana]

I liked the episodes, but it had it's flaws. Like this: Clark is human. Flying him to sun doesn't give Humans powers. It melts them. And Martian Manhunter is extremely susceptible to fire, it's his 'kryptonite.' Thus, I feel like the sun wasn't the best way to go about that...

I loved how the Fortress refolded into the Crystal though. Great touch.



Clark is not human and just because he had lost his powers or got drained as someone else put it, doesn't mean he was ever human, he is still from krypton. MM sacrified himself to save Clark because he knew his destiny was much greater, like many other people have done int he past, he said so himself.

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Maybe once Clark finds the crystal again and rebuilds the fortress with it, he can give MM his powers back

[Yasise]

Clark is not human and just because he had lost his powers or got drained as someone else put it, doesn't mean he was ever human, he is still from krypton. MM sacrified himself to save Clark because he knew his destiny was much greater, like many other people have done int he past, he said so himself...........

well, and Clark said himself that he's "human" when Chloe asked him, what has happened to him. It was in that scene where he rescued her in that lab in Montana.

So it seems that actually the writers give Tom wrong dialogues.........;)

[Radioflyer]

1. Maybe MM was either lying or in error. He never lost his powers and just wanted Clark not to depend on his help or MM is not all knowing and just believes his powers are gone for good.

2.The PTB might have just wanted MM to sacrifice his powers for Clark for the dramatic angle or maybe they just wanted to get off the radar for the rest of the season.

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I just assumed that MM likely weakened steadily, but had enough energy left for the return trip. And sometimes, I just figure, "What the hell; it's TV, not a science lesson". Some things are better left alone, even if they don't always add up 100% (a prime example being the original deal that Swann made with Lionel in Season 3).Ditto. After all he did make it back. When he had his organ ripped out all he had to to is leave earth to heal himself to save Clark he left earth and brough Clark close to the sun.

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well, and Clark said himself that he's "human" when Chloe asked him, what has happened to him. It was in that scene where he rescued her in that lab in Montana.

So it seems that actually the writers give Tom wrong dialogues.........;)
I think Clark is in error, he thinks that when he has no powers he's human but actually he's only powerless.

[afireinside]

that whole thing was ****, if an arrow went through him, the sun would have cooked him good!! what a bunch of anus, that was freaking terrible

[unfocused]

I like your use of the word "anus."

[HumanoidCorvin]

I think Clark is in error, he thinks that when he has no powers he's human but actually he's only powerless.

You are right about that, even without his powers Clark is still Kryptonian.

[optinox]

well they really don't have all the time to explain every detail, so they just leave it our imagination. As far as the comics go, well it depends on who the writer is, there's different variations of superman, with variations of his power levels, some writers make him look not so super, and some make him look like a Godlike figure compared to other heroes, some use logic and realistic, as well creative idea's to explain his story, some do a poor job. A revamp would fix all this, and combine abit of both into a new superman.

There's even a version where supes is immune to kryptonite, so it all depends on who's writing the story, there's no boundaries really, as long as you keep to the basics we all know. People have changed the superman mythos for years, it's nothing new, even Lois and Clark series was different, whats great about smallville is it actually incorporates other DC related material into it, making it more superman or comic book like series.

MM and clark both have protective aura's so regardless if MM was totally depleted Clark's aura would have protected him anyways, are we forgetting how many times Clark has saved Lana, and others by just covering around them, same thing. PLus it's obvious MM had enough energy to get them back down to earth....what sucks, they're making him sound like a battery as well. Clarks powers should always be at full power, only way he should lose or drain them is no exposure to yellow sun for long periods of time (years, and years), close to Kryptonite, or near a Red sun. cause really if he was more like a battery and if drained when using his abilities heavily, then he wouldn't be so much a God among men like Jor-El said he would be, cause once he powered down many of the Meteor freaks and more so the villains, (phantom zoners, Zod, Titan, ect), would easily take out C.K, smalliville hasn't made him seem like a battery just yet, let's hope they keep it that way.

[BULLITT]

Pfffft..forget you Jor-El, da Sun is where its at. Fouugeeeeetaboutiiiiit.

[Sweetie]

I liked it.The sun always was his energy's source.

[Supes4Ever]

This was posted in another thread called "Plotholes", hence the numbers and questions, but you guys are asking some of the same questions so I figured I would post it here as well:

22. If Clark was human, why didn’t his body spontaneously explode once he left the atmosphere? At what point did he become superhuman and MM became human? Someone should have been blow up or fried upon “launch” or “reentry”.- Not true. The sun giving Clark back his powers has been explored in the comics before. The orb essentially drained him of his solar energy (having the same effect the Red sun would have on Clark's body), which can only be replenished by getting a MASSIVE dose of "unfiltered" sunlight. So he could literally have walked around that Russian camp for years, and may have only gotten SOME of his strength back (if he was under the presence of the Red sun constantly, which in this case the orb was a one time shot allowing him a chance to begin to recover). Going directly to the Sun was vital to restoring him, as he had not become human, but an extremely weakened Kryptonian. A Kryptonian, even without powers, would be able to exit the Earth's atmosphere and not die right away, as their body make-up is different on a cellular level then ours is. For Martian Manhunter, he would lose his powers if he flew directly AT the sun, which he did with Clark, because fire strips him of his power for a short-time frame but the effects are not instant. (It is a psychological barrier he has, because he is AFRAID of fire). The sun is more then just a giver of light, it is essentially a giant fireball.

23. It looked like Clark went from near dead in Montana to waking up in the barn. How did MM get him there without powers?- MM still had his powers. What happens to MM when he is exposed to fire, is his cellular structure begins to break-down rapidly, and he becomes scared and loses his human form. Essentially in the comics it has been described as him "melting" into a "pool" of green mass. However, as stated above it is NOT instant because it is a psychological affect that is created by exposure to fire. MM would have had powers right until he became fully encased by the fear, which means he would have been powerless for as long as a week to a month. As well, he projected some of his psychic powers that he possesses to create a barrier around them (that bright red bubble you saw go around the two as they went into the light) which would have lasted as long as he did not give into his fear of the fire. I know all this because it has been explored in the comics before, MM is my second favorite hero behind Superman, and a storyline similar to this occurred and was "retconned" in the 70's with MM rescuing Superman by taking him to the sun and losing his powers for a month. He stayed in a pool of green mass at first for about a week until he could control his psychic powers, and was able to re-corpealate his body.

[Joelito]

So, maybe this solved the mistery about how Jor-el removes Clarks powers...
is about spending too much in the FOS (RIP) that he doesn't recharge from the sun.

[Tacitus]

Answer 23 is correct, but 22 isnt. Clark can replenish his batteries very quickly just by staying in broad daylight. Thing is, the writers seem to be mixing two things: human and powerless. They've been doing this since the start of the show. If Clark was human, there is no way for him to restore his powers. A human body doesnt have the ability to store sunlight. Obviously he was locked out of his powers somehow. He can be locked out of his powers only if he's exposed to red solar radiation. Perhaps this is how Jor-El stripped him off his powers. When that happens, he doesn't become human, just looses his powers but he remains a Kryptonian. The explanation that he becomes human is silly anyway. He can't just switch between two species. Humans and Kryptonians look the same on the outside, but their biology is completely different. For Clark to become human, his DNA would have to be completely rearranged.

If we assume that Clark's body was in red solar radiation overdrive, then the scene with MM (taking Clark closer to the Sun) makes sense. Combine this with answer 22 and everything fits nicely. Unfortunately, we were not given such an explanation during the episode and I understand when people complain that it doesn't make sense, because well, it doesn't.

[Supes4Ever]

Tactius, I agree with 22 not being correct, because I framed it a bit different if that makes sense. I wasn't talking strictly out of comic canon (ie- exactly how the Sun and Superman's Kryptonian cellular structure relate to each other in that realm), as I was mixing part comic knowledge with what the writer's have done with Clark's being stripped of powers (ie- I personally believe they made the orb sort of like a "red sun" in a way, hence creating the 'draining' effect). I was trying to explain how a "massive" supercharge at the Sun COULD make sense, if we follow a little bit of comic canon and a bit of how the writer's have changed Clark's powers. However, by having Clark say he was "human" in my mind caused the most confusion. A Kryptonian stripped of his powers does not a human make.

[optinox]

remember everyone, clark didn't know what happened after the conflict with lex, he ended up in russian with no powers (very depleted, to almost non exisitent), we see this cause he had normal human strength when lifting those crates and stuff.

Everytime he's lost his powers he knows he's vulnerable "like a normal human". When clark refers to being human, he mostly means he's mortal like one. Unfortunately he's barely done any training, and has been avoding his destiny for a few seasons now since his first encounter with Jor-El. Clark doesn't know the outcome of every event, unless he gets a heads up warning, so when he realized he was powerless he referred to himself as being human in the sense that he had no abilities to protect him.

Again both MM and Clark have protective aura's, they fewl close to sun but not into the sun. If supes or Clark went into the sun, then theoritcally clark would be much stronger than he was before. They flew close enough that it super charged clark regaining his abilities, same way as normal only difference this was probably a fail safe plan from Jor-El. MM knew right away what to do, which makes me believe that the whole controlling thing was another lesson from Jor-El. This didn't seem like when he died the first time that Jor-El saved him, I don't think Jor-El would let clark die if he could save him even if clark did make the wrong choice. For MM to react quickly, would allow me to think this was just another lesson of clarks journey, same thing Jor-El did showing clark what would happen if he didn't come to earth, ect. I'd like to call these, "Life lessons from a Kryptonian standpoint"...

[One-Winged-Angel]

I look into my reverse crystal ball and i see Season 5 "Hidden"

[ginnyfan]

I loved MM flying Clark to the sun. I guess Clark flew them back though which was lame. I greatly disliked the sun stripping MM of his powers. WHY???

[Kal26]

I dislike that too. I also didn't like how he had to leave earth's atmosphere to heal last season. Apparently I have known this, but forgot, my wife's telling me that she's disappointed in me. Martian Manhunter's weakness is apparently to fire. I guess the sun thing makes perfect sense. I still don't understand why he has to leave the atmosphere to heal, but I'm sure there's a good explanation for that too. I'm ashamed.........I'm very ashamed........mostly because my wife won't quit calling me an idiot, but none the less I'm ashamed.

[Tacitus]

Tactius, I agree with 22 not being correct, because I framed it a bit different if that makes sense. I wasn't talking strictly out of comic canon (ie- exactly how the Sun and Superman's Kryptonian cellular structure relate to each other in that realm), as I was mixing part comic knowledge with what the writer's have done with Clark's being stripped of powers (ie- I personally believe they made the orb sort of like a "red sun" in a way, hence creating the 'draining' effect). I was trying to explain how a "massive" supercharge at the Sun COULD make sense, if we follow a little bit of comic canon and a bit of how the writer's have changed Clark's powers. However, by having Clark say he was "human" in my mind caused the most confusion. A Kryptonian stripped of his powers does not a human make.

No worries, I just tried to explain why it doesn't make sense. The writers don't differentiate between human and powerless and that's the source of the confusion.

[unfocused]

I dislike that too. I also didn't like how he had to leave earth's atmosphere to heal last season. Apparently I have known this, but forgot, my wife's telling me that she's disappointed in me. Martian Manhunter's weakness is apparently to fire. I guess the sun thing makes perfect sense. I still don't understand why he has to leave the atmosphere to heal, but I'm sure there's a good explanation for that too. I'm ashamed.........I'm very ashamed........mostly because my wife won't quit calling me an idiot, but none the less I'm ashamed.

That's so funny :lol: But don't be ashamed, there are a lot of people that didn't know anything about MM before he came on the show. Me included.

[DestinyAw8s]

Clark will NEVER be human. He is an alien. It seems harder for some to understand this than it has been for Clark himself. lol

[jimmyolsenblues]

i do find the whole episode rushed

[Lightning Flash]

Nah, I don't think it was rushed, just a lot of occurences.

I also, think it was stupid how he lost his powers, Martian Manhunter could've been a help and asset to the Justice League and Clark...

[Princess_Kara]

I think Martian Manhunter will definitely get back his powers relatively soon and join the Justice League whenever they get back together. Then along with Cark, they will start to become the greatest team the world has ever seen.

[SparkleforSmallville]

I'm happy that, this time, Clark was happy to have his Powers restored.

[Iluvgreen]

yeah, that part was funny. i made a joke to my sister. I said, "yeah now when he looses his powers, all he has to do is fly to the sun." and she was like, "yeah except he doesn't know how to fly yet." it was a complete blond moment for her. it was great though. I love MM.

[unfocused]

I dunno, Iluvgreen. Seems more like a blond moment for you :p

[Kal26]

Clark will NEVER be human. He is an alien. It seems harder for some to understand this than it has been for Clark himself. lol

I know. Every time Clark looses his powers and he says "I'm human", I want to be like "no Clark, your still Kryptonian, and you always will be, powers, or no powers!"

[yoda1138777]

It seemed like an easy way to get out of the holes they dug themselves into from last year and the departure of certian people and of course amnesia

[Radioflyer]

I know. Every time Clark looses his powers and he says "I'm human", I want to be like "no Clark, your still Kryptonian, and you always will be, powers, or no powers!"Ditto. Clark is mistaken when he say that. It's not a big deal though. He'll figure it out.

[Kal26]

Yeah, it's just a figure of speech, I'm sure.

[BABarracus]

ok for the recod clark did not perminately loose his powers he has to chare up like a battery all jor el did was empty his reserves so that clark could not go on a rampage

it would be foolish to say jor el will give corrupted humen the power to control a power that could dominate the earth.

clark probly is not at full strenght

any one who reads the comics would know

[Kal26]

Well, those of us who read comics, and others who don't but study Smallville do know how his powers work. However, the reason for Clark loosing his powers changes in a case to case manor on this show. Sometimes it's like you said, and they just have to slowly come back, and sometimes Jor-El has completely taken them away and Clark has actually had to ask to get them back, or almost be killed. My point is that threads like this are for speculation as to what the case actually is because it's been done is so many scenarios at this point that all we can do is speculate. I think in this case your right, but it never hurts to discuss it.

[justice league]

it made me cry