Loved it? Hated it? What did you think of Odyssey?

[superhippie2000]

After the show airs give your feedback and opinions.

Thread will open after the first airing of the episode.

[STFanatic]

OK, open the poll :lol:

[Randy G.]

We're now open for business! ;)

[shy175223]

Finallly!

[STFanatic]

Ah man, I don't vote in "public polls". :(

[CallMeClark]

Amazing. Way to come back form last year's horrible "Artic."

I must say the new producers might actually have brains - or at least more than AlMiles.

The plot was very well connected (Chloe-to Luthercorp-to the Fortress).

[Darth Pipes]

Lex's absence definitely has left a major void. He was the opposing force for everyone on the show and I don't think they'll be able to replace that. Clark and Chloe are the only pair of original characters left and the adult characters are all gone. So it's up to the younger group.

That being said, there was some good and promising stuff here. Oliver now being a part of the regular cast. Chloe's new powers. Lois's great legs. The Oliver/Clark fight. Oliver shooting Clark through the chest with an arrow was pretty cool. Very good to see a pro-active Clark but knowing the show, he'll regress two steps next week. Clark and Lois's interaction was quite good as well.

BTW, when Phil Morris showed up, was anyone expecting him to ask Clark...

"Who told you to touch the red krptonite? Did I tell you to touch the red kryptonite?"

[Alexander III]

Hate it hate it hate it!!

[yoxodo]

Im about a five on this one. Seemed kind of cheesey in places, but i like the direction Clark is moving in. The best part was seeing Lois in a french maid uniform. Think i had a dream like that once...

[Randy G.]

Yeah, I hope no one minds. I took the "Public" option off of the poll. It should be a private choice now. ;)

[spideyfan]

It looks like this season can be real promising...
Like:
CK in Metropolis
CK at the Daily Planet
JL involvment

Dislike:
Looks like next week is a FotW epi? already?

I cant wait for this season though...

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

I loved this episode. I gave it a 10!

[shy175223]

Hate it hate it hate it!!You get to be kidding me??:confused:

[Smallville6]

Loved It!

[shy175223]

It looks like this season can be real promising...
Like:
CK in Metropolis
CK at the Daily Planet
JL involvment

Dislike:
Looks like next week is a FotW epi? already?

I cant wait for this season though...

That episode looks promising.

[WickedJenn]

I gave it a 9. Honestly, probably the only other really good premiere besides "Arrival".

I just wished they hadn't had to squeeze the DP scene in like that, but believe me, I enjoyed it thoroughly!!

We're seeing Clark finally realizing what he's got to do. I was so damn happy to hear him talk about moving on to MM that I clapped.

That fight scene with Ollie was awesome.

Lots of Justice League, I of course loved that.

Something tells me that green kryppie inoculation is not gone.

Wow...Chloe can't heal anymore. I didn't think they'd totally take that away. Brainiac is basically a computer, so it would make sense that Chloe's brain power increased exponentially. I really wonder where that's going to lead specifically.

Hmm, MM's powers are gone.

Tess has the crystal that made the Fortress. I think I know where that could go.

Finally...Lois and Clark! The banter is back! Erica looked amazing with her dark hair. Seeing a scruffy wet Tom/Clark was definitely a highlight of the show.

[kavalier]

Loved the episode, of what I saw at least, but I missed the last ten minutes. Pretty sad about that.

[Yankeefan]

best episode ever

[WickedJenn]

It looks like this season can be real promising...
Like:
CK in Metropolis
CK at the Daily Planet
JL involvment

Dislike:
Looks like next week is a FotW epi? already?

I cant wait for this season though...

I'm positive it's not a FoTW.

[dimeo782002]

I think it was okay . Toomuch shoved into one episode imo but i think chloe can still heal but for some reason can't save clark just my opinion.

Anyhoo im suprised how i smiled at clois arguing , can't help but laugh at those two ( even though im a Chlarker lmao )
Tom welling looks sexy as hell ! so did justin in the opening credits wow sizzling hot grrr !

the chimmy ! well it was cheesy as usual but i can't help smiling when chloe smiles and her little comment on how what she wanted in her past stopped her from seeing what she had ? i think that is a reference to mr kent ? I think she met that her feelings for her past aka clark kept her from really wanting jimmy ? i don't know what do you guys think ?

other than that it was okay , it had some light harded moments and even though i like Lois i still feel there is some light switching no offense to anyone , just my opinion , but Lois is likeable , love the new hair color . tom looked hot at the dp when he smiled lol

tess seems like a force to be reckoned with ! sometimes female villians can be more ruthless than males where women are concerned . I would like to hear more about her relationship with lex and how she kind of landed into this position ,.i miss lex but i see and i am liking it how they are leaving it very easy for mr to come back if he would like too !

[superhippie2000]

i think this episode was awesome and great justice league stuff too. i think smallville has gone back to the feel of season 3 . lets hope it stays that way.

[KryptoKnight]

Four!
Playing through on this one. :|
The Cheese-Whiz Network manages to proceed down the path of open-hole substance. I watched this show and ended up having less optimism than before the season. How can that be? Didn''t they have enough time to write something with more quality? Is this not their craft? Writing with quality? GAH, it was more like writhing from lack of quality.
Economy, make way, a new low has been achieved.
mmmm, I am hungry now for some Swiss cheese. Guess I should switch to the Food Network for something a little more dynamic.
Good luck to Tom Welling. He is indeed the one to save the show, if the writers can handle it.
Sorry for the negativism. If you like the show, more power to you. I have followed and loved the show as well. But this was the worst attempt to open a new season, EVER!

[double L]

One of the best premiere's of the show.

[LuckyLois]

I loved it. Tom looked amazing, and excited to move his character along. Love the bantering with Oliver and Lois. I liked how they flashed back a bit and has Tess and that guy Brady challenging each other. Think this season will be great!!

[phantomzoney]

I loved it. I thought it was great and a very reassuring of what is to come.

It's definitely my favorite episode. (Apocalypse has been moved to second.) I loved that Clark was confident, humorous, and finally ready to be a big boy.

Though I wish the Tom had gotten a new picture in the credits, they were pretty good. And in the episode, something was different about how Clark smiled. It was a subtle but nice difference.

Anyways, the actual episode - it was fantastic. I could go on and on about what I liked - Clark finally knowing what he has to do and moving on, the longer hair, going astray a bit from the red and blue outfits, Chloe's power, that what Clark says sounds so much more mature and better, how he didn't lose his memory like it was guessed he would, the special effects - my favorite being the Martian Manhunter flying Clark to the sun, how many questions were answered that used to never be (meaning some things would be left without any reason), the Clark/Ollie fight, the Justice League, and really.. so much of the episode I enjoyed.

I'm not disliking the new character, Tess. Seems alright. But I'm not going to love her or hate her yet.. want to wait for her storyline to progress.

To sum it up, absolutely amazing. 10 times a hundred - what I'd rate it. I'm rather excited for the rest of this season. It looks like it'll be the best one yet.

[Insight]

I have to say I was very entertained. I hadn't realized I had missed the show this much.

Gotta say I miss Lex though.

[reobeem]

This was an epic start to the new season. It didn't feel rushed and much of it fell into place. One thing I noticed is that MM said Clark would have to go at it alone even though 2 objects still exist that Jor-El could use to talk to Clark, the disc and the crystal stone. I loved the Justice League in action and even the members who weren't seen at least were mentioned. That last scene in the Dailly Planet between Lois and Clark really cracked me up, it seems he's finnaly moving in the right direction instead of others deciding for him. I felt sorry for MM losing his powers to save Clark but at least he's alive. The opening really rock, I can't wait for the next episode.

[Smallville6]

I loved every little bit about it, but did it ever mention how exactly Oliver found Clark?

[mrw66855]

This was an epic start to the new season. It didn't feel rushed and much of it fell into place. One thing I noticed is that MM said Clark would have to go at it alone even though 2 objects still exist that Jor-El could use to talk to Clark, the disc and the crystal stone. I loved the Justice League in action and even the members who weren't seen at least were mentioned. That last scene in the Dailly Planet between Lois and Clark really cracked me up, it seems he's finnaly moving in the right direction instead of others deciding for him. I felt sorry for MM losing his powers to save Clark but at least he's alive. The opening really rock, I can't wait for the next episode.
I noticed that stuff to . love the episode gave it a 10 out of 10. Like I said, two times already in another forum. Sets up so many possibilities the storylines are endless. I will say it again great episode.
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[ClarkyBoy14]

9/10

I really liked this episode. A lot of action, but still some time for some nice character interactions. And Clark is really fun to watch again!

Can't wait for next week!

[LuthorKent90]

I absolutely loved this episode. It is ranked third of my favorite season premiere of the series.
I can see a real change, and it looks to be for the better!:D

Although there was no Lex, *cries* Tess seems really interesting, and I loved her in the premiere. (Hell I'd love anyone sticking up for Lex!;))

[Meteror Freak]

The plot was very good, and I think the writers did an awesome job with answering all the questions in the little time they had. At the beginning of every season, there's always like ten plotlines going on that all need attention in just one episode. The only things I didn't like were how Clark got his powers back, and how they didn't say anything at all about how Ollie was going to stay in Metropolis.

[OMEGA SAM87]

Great Episode! Its about time they head in the CLOIS direction, I love seeing Tom and Erica together their banter is well written. A lot happened in this premiere and unlike some past premieres Odyssey was very fluid from start to finish. Lots of Justice League getting the job done, I liked that, it added a sense of urgency to the plot and helped exemplify how much Oliver respects Clark (even though he may not show it all the time) its a nice way to welcome Justin's character as a show regular. I love the mystery behind Chloe's apparent change in Powers. I give it a 10/10!

[Eric II]

I agree with Darth Pipes. Michael Rosenbaum's absence is significant and noticeable. The writers and producers have their work cut out for them in picking up the slack he and John Glover left behind.

I do like the addition of Justin Hartley. I've always liked his character and the dynamic between him and Tom Welling.

I also liked Tess Mercer more than I expected to. My fear is that they'll try too hard to make her a legitimate threat and ruin her potential. I hope they don't take the easy way out and attempt to make her more extreme or ruthless than Lex to "prove" her to audiences (they already hinted at this with the line towards the end about her being more deceptive than Lex Luthor, which is a tad ridiculous). She can't replace Lex, so they shouldn't try. Treat her like a separate character entirely, not a fill-in for arguably the show's best character.

I'm not buying into Clark and Lois yet. I think it needs a little more buildup than we've been given in Season 7 and the Season 8 premiere. With that said, I liked their exchanges a lot in the premiere, and I look forward to them busting one another's chops on a regular basis. Speaking of that, it was good to see Clark with a sense of humor and dishing it out. A proactive Clark is a good Clark.

Overall, I wouldn't say it's the best season premiere, but it certainly kept my attention and has me looking forward to the rest of Season 8.

[Saber]

I gave it a 4, it was disappointing, choppy and wooden.
I miss Rosenbaum as Lex; there is no substitution for his chemistry on the show. Tess ain’t cutting it; she needs to be more ruthless in order to balance Clark’s heroism, if not the hero looks uninspiring and dull. You can add more heroes but if the foes don’t balance them out, then, it just makes them lackluster in their battle.
I’m really hoping for better in the coming weeks.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Don't give to many episodes a ten, but this episode surely deserved it!

[alejandrita439]

i loved the episode :D:D:D:D:D

[origin]

I loved it, I gave it a 10,

[STFanatic]

The only thng I have to say right now is... Why did they have to rescue the darn red jacket??? Why Why Why??

[Darth Pipes]

I did find Ollie's line that Clark wouldn't give up on them to be amusing. Having seen seven years of him pining over Lana, we can definitely agree that Clark isn't the type to give up on anything. Except his training. ;)

[xHerox]

I'm giving this episode an '8', but that could definitely change depending on how the rest of the season shapes up. Honestly, I enjoyed this season premiere immensely - especially the final act, which was almost perfect - but I can't help but get the feeling that a lot of what we are seeing is merely set-up for things to come. Assuming that this will be the final season, I can already pick out a number of things brought up in the finale that could definitely come into play around the finale - Chloe's supermemory, the relationship between Chloe and Jimmy, and most importantly the idea that Clark can be re-powered by the sun. Now, I have tried to remain spoiler free, but it seems to be common knowledge that Doomsday will be a part of this season, and I definitely think that the sun will come into play when Clark inevitably faces off against him.

Overall, a great season premiere that definitely has me looking forward to the future episodes!

[LuthorKent90]

The only thng I have to say right now is... Why did they have to rescue the darn red jacket??? Why Why Why??

:rotfl:
That was the only problem I had with it.

[Darth Pipes]

Speaking of strange clothes choices, how about Oliver, Canary, and AC going to the Artic with as little padding as possible? Not to mention them going out of the tents without any kind of head gear on.

[dreammaster]

Give it 10/10 best season premiere since season five loved the Justice League and ending was just awesome

[amberdawn]

I give it an 9. I enjoyed it.

[pizzahead2490]

i felt kind of idk, like something was missing. but i gave it a 8 i still loved it regardless

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Speaking of strange clothes choices, how about Oliver, Canary, and AC going to the Artic with as little padding as possible? Not to mention them going out of the tents without any kind of head gear on.

after all there not clark who cant feel the weather.:p

seeing that was kind of weird and funny

[ForzaItalia]

HATED IT! HATED IT! HATED IT!

Predictable, repetitive, over the top, uninteresting new characters, and overall stupid….. I never imagined an episode with Green Arrow, Aquaman, Black Canary and Martian Manhunter could be so terrible….. Not only was this by far the worst ever Smallville season premiere, but it was one of the show’s worst ever episodes.

[Smallville6]

I noticed something missing too. Lex.
I'm gonna miss him so much *cries*
But, still and awsome premiere!

[warriorrenegade]

Meh! Pretty much what I expected. The same hackneed drama. Along with its plentiful anvil dropping coupled with its predictable music cues.... So. Pretty much the usual SV episode. By episode 3 All will take 2 steps backwards, rinse and repeat. Grade 5 avg.

[pizzahead2490]

HATED IT! HATED IT! HATED IT!

Predictable, repetitive, over the top, uninteresting new characters, and overall stupid….. I never imagined an episode with Green Arrow, Aquaman, Black Canary and Martian Manhunter could be so terrible….. Not only was this by far the worst ever Smallville season premiere, but it was one of the show’s worst ever episodes.


i totally disagree. i may feel slightly that something missing from this epi but sooo far from being horrible.

[nomadicrain]

i felt kind of idk, like something was missing.


Lex was missing, but I thought Tess was quite intriguing. I liked the way they portrayed her and I hope to see some more back story for her character. I loved the direction they started down with Clark. He is finally starting to seem to have a purpose. His conversation with MM after their sun trip was awesome. Clark realizing that staying on the farm was holding him back, gave me chills. I also loved the final scene with the JL. And Ollie telling him to be careful or he would end up with a homemade outfit and a double identity was great. I really hope they make a strong move in the dual-identity direction this year.

[haydenclaireheroes]

i thought it was confusing with chloes line but it was a great episode!

[Chlark_Fan_Always426]

awesome episode.I loved it.full of action.the fight scene between Clark and Oliver was great.loved how worried Clark was about finding Chloe and when they hugged I had tears in my eyes.Chloe's new power is like whoa! its really cool.I guess she lost her healing powers not sure.I cried when Oliver shot Clark with the arrows {I know it wasnt Ollie's fault}.loved having the Justice League back.wished Bart and Victor were there though but it was awesome they were mentioned.loved seeing Chloe finally happy as well.her and Jimmy are cute together.I'm happy she said yes even though yes I'm a Chlarker at heart.I'm coming around more to the Clois thing though.it was cute the way Clark and Lois were flirting alittle.cant wait for next week's episode

[desertheat2006]

I was looking forward to this all week. The season premiere was the only thing getting me through my work week. Finally! the day has arrived! but wait.... whats that? the CW is being over-ran by the fox network? Mediacom doesn't know what to do? I am pissed. :mad:

[ADuarte03]

not bad at all!! they are finally gettin somewhere on the whole superman thing....last scene was probably the best. not too exciting of an episode but its definitely getting to be more about superman

[SMALLVILLEDAN]

I loved it awesome ep yet from rescuing chloe and then ollie rescuing clark plus their fight and then ollie shooting clark and then killing him then mm taking him to the sun giving him his powers awesome but should not have cost him his powers but the most awesome thing was leaving clana behind and starting clark and lois thank god finally the 90210 of smallville is gone i hope and time for clark to grow up and fulfill his destiny to become the man of steel and clark and lois to start i love it BRING BACK KARA

[Kal26]

I want to see it again right now! By the end, it felt epic. I'm getting closer and closer to seeing the dynamic between Lois and Clark that I've been longing for. I give it a superb. :D

[Ilovebeinglost]

That was absolutely fantastic and I hope it's a start of things to come

[SnowBird]

I gave it a 10...Awesome and a Great beginning for a new direction for Smallville and Clark. Fight scenes were terrific. Clark's death scene was believeable and sad. Those arrows going into Clark was some great special effects. Looks like Brainiac backfired into Chloe. Their new Metropolis set looked very cool. Just a few things of soooo much to love in propelling Smallville into the future. Looking forward to next week.

[LovelyLoisLane]

Loved it. Very impressed by the tightness of the writing.

I rated it a ten. Haven't liked a premiere this much since Crusade.

[SVfan4ever]

Loved everything except Jimmy. 9.5/10

[Conner Kent]

Speaking of strange clothes choices, how about Oliver, Canary, and AC going to the Artic with as little padding as possible? Not to mention them going out of the tents without any kind of head gear on.

I gotta throw my two cents on the clothing issue. So Clark doesn't have powers when he joins Green Arrow to save the JL'ers, so why doesn't Ollie give him something to hide his identity. He is a billionaire, are you saying he doesn't have at least a spare GA suit? And I loved that they mentioned Cyborg and Impulse, but they definately have to bring them back sometime this season.

[BadToad]

I was a bit underwhelmed, unfortunately. I do appreciate that this episode really set the stage for the season to come, and spent a great deal of time introducing Tess (WAY too much time, if you ask me). But the episode really skimped on a lot of things that needed to be better explained. I still have no idea why Clark was in that Russian camp, or why they were holding him. Or how Oliver found him. Or why MM flying Clark to the sun would heal him and restore him powers. Or how MM and Clark got back from the sun if MM had no powers. Or when Clark found the time to fill out the application, get interviewed, and get hired at the DP. It was all very rushed.

And I think my biggest disappointment in the episode was that there just wasn't a lot of Clark. What was there was very good Clark stuff, and I thought his decisions and reasoning were very sound and encouraging. But the guy just wasn't on screen very much, and I think he needed to be. Especially in the premiere episode.

I'm just not a fan of the Chloe with powers, or the Chimmy, so I'll just roll with it and hope I can find a way to live with it.

Not a lot of Lois, but what there was worked for her, and in the episode.

Nice JLA stuff, but really not much of it.

The content of this episode really needed 2 episodes in order to play out properly. PS3 were in far too great a hurry to establish the setting for what they want to do in S8, and the episode would've benefitted from taking it slower.

Rating: 7

[kentfamily]

WOW! I didnt think I would like the new season but the premiere was great! It was actually very good! Clark looked really good out of his Red/Blue uniform. He lost a few pounds and it looks great on him. I loved it when Martian Manhunter saved Clark's life. He finally embraced his destiny!!!!
Chloe needs to get back into the story lines. Loved the ending.

[monel49]

Loved it! Give it a 10! One of the best of the season premieres. Very tight story, very good characterization, great acting and special effects, and, most of all, great mythos. Fine start to what I hope is a triumphal year. Already, I'm pumped that we have season eight. I've been watching the earlier seasons and its amazing how the writers have moved this story along. What was cool tonight was that Clark is taking on the Superman cape and moving to the Daily Planet. Looks like what used to take several episodes to get to a new character development now can be accomplished in just a few minutes. Keep it fast moving! Way to go guys!

[Princess_Kara]

I appreciated the Odyssey episode. It was well worth the wait. I liked the way it incorporated the Justice League. It was incredible that Chloe was saved and said yes to Jimmy's proposal. I love that Clark is furthering his journey to becoming the greatest hero of all time, and the beautiful blossoming relationship between Lois and Clark. This episode was superbly excellent.

[ShInE4YoU]

That was an awsome premiere:
1. Clark's grew some cajones n kicks ass even w/o his powers (NTM he looked HOT)
2. JL in action
3. Chloe's new powers
4. Clois at the Daily Planet.......

Season 8 is looking good........

[Lavenderrose73]

Oh my gosh, I'm watching this right now! It's commercial, and Lois and Clark just decked the 2 guys and continued on their way looking for Chloe. I'd kinda not bothered watching Smallville since the last episode of Season 7, and I just happened to think about Smallville and wonder when Season 8 was going to start. In fact, I thought I would have missed the first 1 or 2 episodes and was going to go to Frostwire for missing episodes. Talk about timing!

Man, I love the way Oliver "hacked on Clark" to get him away from those Russian guys... lol! It's about to come back on momentarily, I think...

[AngelaV]

10.
Was floored at the opening. Seemed different in a GOOD way. Yeah, I love Lex but I also like the fact that he's out there plotting. :D

And for once I liked Lois.

[clana4everfan2]

Tom looked really hot and Justin wow.. super hot! LOL! The episode was pretty good I liked the some of the members of the Justice League teaming up like that. They had many mythos jokes in this episode like when Oliver was telling Clark he's going to need a costume/secret identity. And Black Canary says the costume may be tight and Clark smirked at her. LOL. The episode was better than I thought it was going to be. But was it really necessary for Lois to wear that cheesy maid outfit. Yuck. hehe.. sorry Lois fans but come on.. Despite what the Clana/Lana haters may say it was nice to see when Clark was dying the flashbacks he had of the people he loved like his father, Lana.

[Lavenderrose73]

Oh my gosh, seeing Clark nearly die I darn near started crying myself! And I love the ending, Lois seeing Clark's name plaque, it was as if to say "In your face, Lois!!"... :rotfl: Not to mention, Clark is doggone gorgeous has heck as always!! <3 <3 <3

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Tom looked really hot and Justin wow.. super hot! ...

Reverse that for me! ;)

[brando_2185]

Wow...awesome season opener! The writers were right, the new season indeed feels fresh. It reminded me of the early seasons. Anyone noticed how freaking huge Welling has gotten since last season? He must have been hitting the gym hard...

Those scenes with Clark and Lois and the Justice League were epic. And how about that scene with Martian Manhunter? Awesome!

Chloe was great and beautiful as always. Tess Mercer is stunning, yet very mysterious and ruthless. All of this, makes season 8 very promising.

I'm pumped for episode 2!

[yosemiteangel]

Loved it! I gotta watch it again, to see what I missed, but yes! If this is the tone for the rest of the season, then woo-hoo!

[Who]

7 - Let's see Clark looses his powers again and is brought to the brink of death again. Loved JLA. Not sure what is going on with Chloe. Chlimmy is on no off no on? Liked Clois. Good to see MM back. Clark finally decides to leave the farm. Yeah. Clark working at The Daily Planet. Yeah. Need Perry White and Ben Hubbard next. How I miss MB. Nobody seems to be concerned about Kara?

[Lavenderrose73]

Didn't notice Welling bigger, only as drop dead fine as ever. This semester is going to fly with these shows to keep up with! I'll be in ballroom dance class in the morning imagining I'm dancing with Welling! <3 (squeals with delight)

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7 - Good to see MM back... Nobody seems to be concerned about Kara?

Yeah, I wonder if MM is going to find a wife and settle down since he's out of superpower anyway. As for Kara, good point. Where the heck is she??

[LuckyKrypto]

I really liked this episode A LOT! I think it's setting a stage for a great new season. Can't wait for next week!

[Québec]

I'm gonna rate saturday after I catch the episode on Space channel. Lucky you americans :(

[thorski]

I liked it - good opener.

Liked Clark working with JLA. Liked Chloe's new power, wonder what's up with the healing. Flow was great except for the escape from Montana, Clark flew away and then what happened to the rest of the gang???? Inject green arrow with this stuff that only lasts 2 mins and let him leave without finding out who he is. They didn't know Clark was there, how did Aqua and Canary escape????? Clark wakes up after being saved and he doesn't rush off to see if his friends are OK. Big hole.

Would have loved to see Oliver give Clark a costume to wear on the plane, and he says, I don't do the costume thing. Or if he had some goofy mask on, lois could have given him a hard time.

Would have been nice if he just gave the filled out Daily Planet Application to Lois at the end, would have been more believable.

[Bruce Wayne/Clark Kent]

I sincerely believe this premiere was better than 90% of season 7.

[Sneefomaster]

i also gave this premiere a 10...i was kinda skeptical about it since i was disappointed bout last season's finale. personally i felt it was like comic-book ish and really enjoyable. there was no emo clark and it was all about the JL rescuing clark (and eventually chloe) from the get-go. i'm sure there were the usual flaws...but regardless i loved it and can't wait for the rest of this season!

[vyperman7]

The premiere was alright. It is definately my least favorite premiere. Once again, the premiere wraps everything up nice and tidy in one episode. In the past, I felt more invested in the premieres because I really enjoyed the finales. But I didn't particularly care for Arctic, so I wasn't really all that excited to see the resolution. On a smaller note, it looked like TW lost a lot of weight to me. Getting back to looking skinnier like he did in S1/S2. In the later seasons, he looked like he was trying to add bulk, and then he just started to look overweight.

Pros :

- They did a good job introducing Tess and making her seem like a menacing force. I think a bit less time could have been spent on her, but they still did a good job there and laying the groundwork for what the rest of the season is going to be like.

- Making Clark come so close to death. It made him realize that it is time to move on with his life. I only wish that the writers would be able to develop characters over the course of a show effectively, without having to lightswitch or use near death experiences as a motivator.

- Chloe's brain being a supercomputer is kind of cool. It gives her a new edge that should be fun to see. I am confused by the fact that her powers didn't work on Clark. Was her healing ability replaced? I wasn't a huge fan of her healing ability, I am just wondering if it was replaced by her new supercomputer brain, or if she has both now, and it just didn't work on Clark for some reason.

- The Clois chemistry at the end was great. The Clois ship on Smallville is slowly starting to grow on me. I loved it at the beginning of S4, and then grew to hate it because of how Lois was developed and the fact that they felt like brother and sister. Now the writers seem to be handling it better.

Cons :

- The Russian prison camp storyline sucked. We got one line of dialogue from Clark saying that he ended up on a fishing boat after passing out from exhaustion on a hike. It would have been nice to have a flashback sequence showing how it happened.

- It sucks that Bart wasn't there. He is the only Smallville JLA member I truly like. I know that Kyle Gallner was busy shooting for a new role, and couldn't make it. However, it would have been nice to see all the JLA members there. At least they mentioned Bart and Victor by name.

- A few moments were way too convienient for me. The first was Oliver just showing up at the camp. How in the hell did Oliver locate Clark? The second scene that was way too convienient was MM showing up and flying Clark into the sun. Why did flying into the sun give Clark his powers back? Also, if MM lost his powers by flying Clark into the sun, how in the hell did they get back to Earth? Clark lived without his powers for 3 eps in S5 under the sun and never got his powers back, and he was also exposed to the sun all that time he was missing leading up to the premiere. It felt like a cheap cop out to me. There needed to be someway for Jor-El to give Clark his powers back, or some other supernatural/mystical method of it happening.

- Clark as a reporter. Just another case of lightswitching. Look at Chloe for example. She was editor of her high school paper and wrote a column for the DP. Did she get a reporting gig? No. After working her ass off to get the story in Thirst just to proove herself, she was barely hired, and finally stuck in the basement. Then Chloe was screwed and fired for no good reason. Yet even though she got screwed, we saw why she deserved to be at the DP with all the seasons of development. I find it funny that they would give someone with so much experience and passion for news the shaft, and give a farm kid that dropped out of college a reporting gig. I would have loved to have seen Clark interviewing for a reporting position with CF's character with his blank resume. She probably would have laughed him out of the office. The hiring policy of the DP must be really lax. It wouldn't bother me so much if Clark had freelanced for the DP or another paper in his spare time, so he could at least say that he had some experience to get past the fact he had no college degree. However, Clark has no experience at all, and when you combine that with his college drop out status, it really bugs me that he got hired on as a reporter. Lois was right to suggest the mail room. That is where Clark belongs.

- Chloe accepting Jimmy's proposal. Man, I hate Chimmy with a passion. At least, Chloe made mention of the fact that what she wanted in the past aka Clark, was holding her back.

*******************

I just hope that this season manages to be enjoyable because this was the worst premiere of the show in my opinion. While some premieres have been better than others, I have enjoyed all of them. This was the first season where it felt like the premiere was just another episode.

6/10

[Mini Wolfsbane]

Excellent episode.

I started out giving it a personal rating of 8 1/2 stars, (8 for the episode, half star for showering AC.), but after reading almost all of the comments, it gets a 9 from me.
If I felt more generous it would probably get a 10, but something did feel missing, so I'll stick with a 9 rating.

It felt a little rushed, but other then that, I liked it.

I almost believed Clark was going to die at the end. I know that sounds really stupid because they can't do the show without him, but he looked like a real gonner. (Maybe his acting has reached it's plateau?)

Writing-wise, I think it's obvious why they got rid of Chloe's healing power;Because the majority of fans hated it! I can't believe everyone's wondering why they got rid of it when everyone was complaining about it in the first place.
(Now if only they'd listen to us on the "No-shirt-tighter-pants" issue for Clark.)

Plot-wise, probably because it's outlived it's usefulness and she needed something more involved and snazzier. Like buying a new car to replace your old beat up junk heap.
And it's pretty clear to me Braniac was involved.

Now...the fangirling. ^_^

OMG. AC. In. The. Shower. Hoooly crap.
Unfortunately, they didn't show his manly, buff chest, but at least they showed his back.
Then they showed him chained up. (At which point I thought they could send him to me for torturing. Torturing of the fangirl variety. Heheh.)

Now, that isn't to say I didn't enjoy soaking-wet Clark or Oliver in all his rich boy goodness, but I was surprised at that shower scene. And when He got chained up,
even with my mouth full of ice cream, I suddenly let out a "whoo!". Surprised myself there. I hope there are more scenes like that, except with Olly or Clark in place of AC, in
the future!

If I have enough time I might watch it again tomorrow, and if not then, hopefully I can get around to watching it soon enough.

[borednow]

One of the best episodes of Smallville I've ever seen.

[Mar-El]

I liked it. This episode made me smile a lot at certain points. I really liked the ending and therefore am willing to forgive the lack of explanation as to HOW he got the job. Can't wait for some Lois and Clark chemistry.

The only real problem I had with the episode is that I thought some of the lines were badly written in some places and poorly delivered in other places - the worst being "Clark, where are you?" It sounded so forced. Also, some of Chloe's lines in the beginning of the episode were kind of ...I don't know? Things you would never hear someone say in real life. That has more to do with the writing of the script than Allison Mack's acting ability.

Who else was happy to see Clark smiling again? He just seems like an all-around happier guy, even though he lost Lana (go figure). I really liked what he told MM in the loft about deciding to let go. It gave me good vibes for Clark's portrayal this season.

Also, I think I just fell in love with Allison Mack. Normally I ship Clois, which is good in this case because I want AM all to myself :lol:. I loved her scene with Jimmy and don't care what anyone else says. Honestly, she plays her character so well, I often wonder where the AM ends and where the Chloe begins.

All around a refreshing episode. Not particularly mind-blowing, but really entertaining and one that I'd love to watch again.

I give it a 8/10. As a standalone, I'd rate it a 9, but this is a season premiere and as far as premieres go, it just doesn't live up to Exile, Crusade, Arrival or Zod, IMO.

[superspider02]

Yes i totally agree PS3 hit it off well with the season premiere. I enjoyed it alot not a dull moment at all in the episode. I hope PS3 can keep up the good work all season. Also if it does end up being confirmed around midseason to be the last season i hope too they will make finale 2 hrs so we can have an epic end to the show.

I loved the jla scenes in the artic and searching for clark it was all pretty good scenes. Loved that bart and victor did get mentioned saying they were checking the souther half of the world(crossing fingers their actors will be free later in the year to do a guest spot). Tess was a pretty good character cant wait to see how she plays out the rest of the year. As for the crystal of knowledge hmmm i cant wait to see what is going to happen with it and when clark will get his hands on it.

There is the spoilers for episode 9 abyss he is going to jorel so maybe he will get the crystal in episode 7 or 8 and reform the fos who knows. I loved chloe being captured by what i guess was a 33.1 prision/testing location. Loved that her healing power is gone and its now a super brain power. Cant wait to see what happens with her.

There is a rumor i been hearing that maybe she took on elements of brainiac and he might be the problem in episode 9 with her memory. I do hope we get to see him again this year hopefully it will work out for him. The scene with ollie under the control of lex's minion guy shoting clark was cool. It was very sweet to see martha/johnathn and even lana(even though i hate her character).

Martian manhunter was great to see again and it was sweet looking scene with him taking clark to the sun to get his powers back. As for him being striped of his powers i wonder how long this will play out and if he will get his powers back in one of his other upcoming guest spots in the season. Cant wait to see where this season goes but so far off to a great start.

[skully]

Wah-hey-hey-heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!! Frikkin awesome.

Slick, fast-paced, well constructed, well acted, nice sprinkling of special effects and a neat pulling together of a lot of plot lines. And throw in the JLA for good measure.

And I absolutely loved the final scene!!!!

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I really struggle to see what people expect. I'm, of course, referring to those who hated this episode.

All I can suggest is lighten up and enjoy the ride, because season 8 looks like being a beauty if episode 1 is any guide. :)

I give it a 9.

[sphrkilo]

I gave it an 8 because I found it entertaining in a funny way. I was laughing throughout the whole thing, and I'm sure some things weren't meant to be particularly funny. There were a lot of questions that weren't exactly answered, and from Smallville's track record with connecting the dots, I think that some of those ever will be answered. How did Oliver find Clark? How did Lois know where to find the information that would lead her to Chloe's location? How did Clark get a job at the Daily Planet when he hasn't finished college and hasn't exactly done much journalism at all? I'll have to watch the episode again to try to fill in some holes, but I don't know if that will happen. I do like the relationship that's coming around between Lois and Clark. I was a total Clana shipper, but I think Clois has great chemistry in a completely different way. I love the scenes between Clark and Lois because I'd rather see a witty, comical Clark over a whiny, pining Clark any day. This wasn't a strong season premiere because it did move way too fast, and the central storyline just didn't stand out enough for me, but as I said, it was enjoyable. They'll really have to step it up to make up for season seven, though. That was just horrible.

[lana 9]

i like it i give it a 7

[wolverine316]

Gave it a 9. Would have been a 10 if not for the crappy Chimmy scene. Completely slammed the breaks on a very well paced episode.

[Lavenderrose73]

Gave it a 9. Would have been a 10 if not for the crappy Chimmy scene.

Well, I for one think Jimmy kinda screwed things up for us by practically taking back the proposal. I was hoping it would be such a beautiful moment, and the only thing that saved it was Chloe accepting anyway!

[STFanatic]

I really enjoyed the episode.
That said, there were only a few things that bothered me.
Mainly Lois shooting the lock on the door.
Folks, it just don't work that way, Hollywood repeatedly show that it does, but shooting the lock would only make the lock even more hard to open. It would destroy the lock, so that even the key would not open it.
If one were to use a firearm on a lock you shoot the part that goes into the door frame not the lock itself.
Second, if someone becomes unconscious from a Tazer, you need to seek medical help immediately.
I know that sounds like nit-picking, but to me it is the same as if Dr. House put a bandage on someone's foot for a head wound. (Actually, he just might, but you get the gist)
I won't bring up the fact that they stripped off AquaMan's shirt off, but not the Canary's :p

[ClarksGal]

I loved this episode. I loved the new, more mature Clark, and I thought they did a good job of having him explain why he was holding on and that he was now letting go, and looking for the next stage in his life. That was really exciting. I liked Tess, thought Chloe's power was neat, hated that the wedding is going forward, and I didn't mind that they didnt' tell us how Ollie found Clark.

There were two things that I wish I could have seen. I wish I could have seen whenever Ollie found out about Jor El, the Fortress, etc. For purposes of this premier, I liked how they did it and that he knew how special Clark is, but i wish that I could have seen that conversation.

The second scene I would have liked to have seen was how Clark managed to get a job at the Planet. I think this can still be done, even though he has the job...for instance, maybe in the next episode, Tess can say something to Clark like, "Look, Kent, a recommendation from Perry "The Pitbull" White may get you in the door, but you're in the big leagues now. You're going to have to prove yourself like everyone else around here. Starting with your first assignment..." Or something like that. That would clear that one up just fine for me. :)

Of course, I don't actually expect that to happen. I just wish that it would. Anyway, these are the only two things that bothered me. The rest I loved, and if Clark's new strong, positive attitude continues then consider me a fan of Season 8. This episode felt to me like the old Clark from earlier seasons....which is what I have really, really been missing.

[__jb]

Tess has the crystal that made the Fortress. I think I know where that could go.I guess the Fortress retracted into the crystal again, just the opposite of when the Fortress was originally formed. Looks like Clark will be getting the Fortress back again once he steals the crystal and figures out how to recreate the Fortress.

I liked tonight's episode. Lois is a hot maid!

[sebari77]

If viewed only in isolation, this episode is among if not the worst in the history of the series. However, we shouldn't begrudge the episode because it had to flush so much of the unfinished business from the previous showrunner era. (BTW, no matter what went down, Gough & Millar definitely failed the fans, leaving the show in the shape they did).

Much of it played like a Wednesday episode of a mid-afternoon soap opera whose best days were decades ago. Much of it was tired, contrived, unbelievable (even by comic-book TV show standards!), and tedious, wandering, and boring.

But, they had to flush the excess garbage from seasons 6 and 7 into some sewage pipe and move onto a new era, so, it's doubtful even Aaron Sorkin could write his way out of this mess in one episode.

One of the highlights of the episode was the self-aware moment in which Clark, aka the series itself, admits that its past 2 years have been holding on to something that wasn't there anymore. That admission alone gives me hope for the future of the show. Maybe they're finally ready to turn the page and do something new.

The Clark/Lois scenes were interesting - their dynamic might indeed save the show and keep it interesting for another season or two...

...but, someone's got to say it:

Cassidy Freeman is no Michael Rosenbaum.

Cassidy Freeman isn't even a Willis from Diff'rent Strokes.

Cassidy Freeman couldn't headline a Wasilla Alaska High School freshman theatatrial troupe production.

She was, quite frankly, a war crime. Send her to the hague. A freaking atrocity of international scale.

But I don't blame her. It's not her fault that, at best, with years of focus and training, she might aspire to be a third-rate dinner theater extra...

...it's the bean-counters, the producers, the i-don't-know-who's.... the whomevers who decided to put this inconsequential bag of nothing into a (major?) role on a series in its 8th season.

Not only does Rosenbaum contain more acting ability in his left pinkie than this placeholder disappointment; his CHARACTER has deep mythological basis. Even though Cassidy Freeman has been declared a talent-free zone by the International Association of Cartographers, the producers/bean-counters shoulder the blame here - there is no contrived character that could fill Lex Freaking Luthor's shoes, on a show based on the conflict between Luthor and Superm...err, Clark Kent.

Couldn't afford him? Couldn't write a sufficient way around Luthor's departure? Not Cassidy Freeman's fault....

But, given that you've placed that burden on her character, we can only evaluate it for what is there on the flickering screen, and it. is. pathetic.

Despite the harshness of all I've said above, I still have hope that this season could exceed 6 and 7... (not a high bar, admittedly).... The Clark/Lois dynamic had a much-needed new spark to it... I'm intrigued by the possibilities...

And yet -- the show ended with the Green Arrow character basically telling Clark, hey, here's how it is. Follow me. I'm in charge here. Once again, Clark/Supes is more passive than Woody Allen at a cross-dressing karaoke night. That **** has GOT to stop. He's Kal Freaking El, for Darwin's sake !!! SUPERMAN. Tom Welling and Co. have earned the right to own a respectable place in the mythology with the great efforts of seasons 1-5. Don't blow it. Regain some respect.

Final analysis: mostly cloudy, with a hope of sunlight on the horizon.

Gotta give this episode a harsh 3 out of 10 though.

Staying optimistic though.

[AndyBear1980]

I really enjoyed it.

I am not too into Lois and Clark, and often find their scenes a bit too cheesy for my liking, but I did enjoy most of the episode. I thought it was a great premiere!

[kalelnica]

liked it but... how will they phase out lex? i mean to the point were he doesnt havent be referenced anymore. he was becoming a great villain and they cut him out. hope tess brings a new flavor to evil.

[Theshadow129x]

i seriously thought this was a bad episode. a lot of the acting felt off. I really didnt like what was going on in it. I dont like the Tess Mercer girl. She really isnt very good at acting. And I'm supposed to take her seriously? She is not a threat at all and doesnt scream the word deceptive. Also I still cant stand the girl that plays black canary, more like raccoon girl. she's not even cute. just....ugh. i dont know the plot was typical and very forgettable. I thought Bizarro was better than this for a season premiere. Clark loses his powers and then gets them back all the sudden. and like how many times can this guy die before he actually becomes a superhero? just....ugh. 3/10

[PepsiMax]

8/10. Great episode. Lets hope there's more where that came from! ;)

[Clark/Lois-fan]

I loved this season premiere. The episode simply rocked big time imo.

Loved seeing Clark at the Russian work camp. Trying to escape.

Lois as a maid... :D ALL the Clois scenes. Tess...I love her, she's gonna be interesting.

Chloe was cool...trying to heal Clark but couldn't....& then Clark died :(

MM flying Clark to the sun, Tess opening the briefcase & sees the crystal...awesome

Lois & Clark at the DP. Iconic, banter, LOVE LOVE it.

[Jaderoyale]

GOOD HEAVENS!
I watched it, centimetres away from the screen and didn't move for the entire episode. I thought it was fantastic.
I love the way it started. With the whole montage and everything. I love montage's.
Tess = I really like her. A woman who holds her own. I love her comeback to Regan "Lex thinks so, and thats all that matters".
JUSTICE LEAGUE. I was bouncing like a child. Of course, i would have rather Bart been there than Aquaman (you all should know of my love for Bart now :lol:). But i handled it.

Am the only person who LOVES the credits? Cassidy is actually gorgeous. Justin looks so, SO good in his cast shot. Granted i expecte a few changes. But not so much added. Especially of Clark. Carrying Tess. Tom looks so amazing there. Glasses. THE CLOIS SAVE IN APOCALYPSE. I was hoping so much that would be there.

Gotta say, i was attracted to Lois dressed as a maid ;)
Chloe... super computer? Makes sense to me :p In a good way of course. Even though Victor and Bart weren't in the epi, i do like the fact that they referenced to them. WET CLARK. Happy Jade.

I love that Chloe recognised Olivers number.
I love the Clark and Oliver banter.
You know, i could go on for HOURS. I really loved this episode. 10; and i rarely give out 10's.

ETA; I forgot to say how much i loved the scene where Oliver shot Clark. I wasn't expecting it, and i thought it was acting BRILLIANTLY.

[shadow4486]

I had high hopes for this season. Last season was ok but the storylines were a bit disjointed in the beginning and somewhat lost. So coming in I wanted Smallville to get back to the excitement that made it great those first few years. I think Lana being gone will help and Clark moving to Metropolis will be a big step.

This episode is a step in the right direction. I usually judge a good ep on how much action they cram in to the small time frame. If I can sit there and after a good period of exciting scenes, look up at the clock and only see that 15 min has elasped when it feels like 30, then I know this episode has me hooked. "Odyssey" did that for me. I thought, overall, the acting was great, even from the new kids. At the end I got a sense of a new direction for this series. One of purpose and heroism that it was lacking before because Clark was just trying to find himself.

Of course not all episodes can be all great. I don't understand why the writers have to "camp up" the dialogue all the time. By this I mean the off hand jab of A.C. being "a fish out of water". I mean, really. You are a international group of super heroes, can't you be serious a little? And the "I feel like I need to have two identities" line. ARe you kidding me? Did he really need to say it like that? It's not like he hasn't had two identities since the beginning of the show. It's like walking through a scary house and announcing at every room..."I'm going to check out this room. It sure is dark in there." YA THINK! The writers should give us a little credit. The people who watch this show after 7 seasons are not the newbies who need explanation. We get it! Write like we get it!!! and you won't lose anymore of us. I believe that it would have been more than adequate to just have Clark take the job at the Daily Planet as a show that he will have a new identity.

Overall I'm excited for this season. I can't wait to see how Doomsday will play out. As long as it's not camp.

[KaraClarkfan]

i'll give it a 8

[stenochick]

I was a bit underwhelmed, unfortunately. I do appreciate that this episode really set the stage for the season to come, and spent a great deal of time introducing Tess (WAY too much time, if you ask me). But the episode really skimped on a lot of things that needed to be better explained. I still have no idea why Clark was in that Russian camp, or why they were holding him. Or how Oliver found him. Or why MM flying Clark to the sun would heal him and restore him powers. Or how MM and Clark got back from the sun if MM had no powers. Or when Clark found the time to fill out the application, get interviewed, and get hired at the DP. It was all very rushed.

And I think my biggest disappointment in the episode was that there just wasn't a lot of Clark. What was there was very good Clark stuff, and I thought his decisions and reasoning were very sound and encouraging. But the guy just wasn't on screen very much, and I think he needed to be. Especially in the premiere episode.

I'm just not a fan of the Chloe with powers, or the Chimmy, so I'll just roll with it and hope I can find a way to live with it.

Not a lot of Lois, but what there was worked for her, and in the episode.

Nice JLA stuff, but really not much of it.

The content of this episode really needed 2 episodes in order to play out properly. PS3 were in far too great a hurry to establish the setting for what they want to do in S8, and the episode would've benefitted from taking it slower.

Rating: 7

So far, I agree with your review the most. There was so much ground to cover in just 40 minutes. When they had a scene devoted to Tess or Chimmy, I was yelling at the screen to go away so I could get the Clark story fleshed out.

The whole Odyssey Clark was on - the events occurring after FOS collapsed until he was rescued by Ollie - was only given about five minutes of screen time. The vast majority of Clark's story happened in Offscreenville.

Why not have a two-part season premiere? Part one is the rescue of Clark with a b-plot of Lois trying to find Chloe; and part two is the rescue of Chloe, with a b-plot of Clark getting hired by the DP.

It was refreshing to get a new episode and to see a proactive Clark, and it was entertaining. It just seemed too jam-packed to do justice to Clark's Odyssey.

[jimmyolsenblues]

i gave it an 8, i felt it was forced, too many things in the air.
i wish more clark with justice league time, i think clark is almost a better character without powers, he seemed more brave to me somehow.
i would have liked some flirting between green arrow and black canary, and of course I would have liked longer hair on black canary.
sad not to see flash, he is the best part of the justice league.
i am not in love with tess right now, her acting ain't that all great.
to many rushed scenes and a lot of commercial breaks.
i did like the clark and ollie moments.
and the final clois scenes were great.

why make chloe a supercomputer? i don't like that.

[smallv17]

Voved it sooo much!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah! Season 8 rocks!!!!

[stenochick]

After reading everybody's comments, I think having a two-part premiere would have alleviated a lot of the criticism.

With two parts, they would not have needed all the dues-ex-machinas (MM taking Clark to the sun), lightswitches (Clark somehow had time to fill out the DP application, get interviewed, and get hired for a job that is not in the mailroom), and plotholes (what happened to everyone who was in peril at 33.1 after MM took Clark to the sun? Clark, didn't you have a cousin who lived on the farm with you?)

I said the same thing about Arctic, that had they made it two parts, they would have had the time to give MR a proper send-off and have a killer confrontation between him and Clark in FOS.

Hopefully, to explain Clark's new job at the DP they can make it known to the audience that Clark called in a favor to Perry White who gave him the job without an application, resume, or interview.

Also, for me, I think I was over-spoiled. I am going to forego the spoilers especially any clips or screen captures.

[Super Maverick]

I think it was good, it was fun to watch, but story-wise...erh, pretty bad. There' already huge plot holes, things not explained, etc, etc.

[quietone]

9/10

Good start to the season. Clark is moving forward and that's my primary concern. It's great to see Clark in a lighthearted mood and smiling. As for everything else, I guess I'm so used to plot holes that I've become immune to them. Didn't miss Lex or Lionel as much as I thought I would. Tess looks to be a formidable villain. Not really caring about Chloe or Jimmy. Liked the Clois interaction.The return of the JLA should be awesome and I hope Martian Manhunter returns - hopefully with his powers.

So far I'm optimistic about what's in store this season.

[lovinredkclark]

I gave it a 10.
Love the fact that once Clark got his powers back, straight away he realised he needed to do more, so off to the big city we go.
This season looks like a good ride.

[petitemimi]

I agree that a 2-parter might have worked better and answers the countless whys and hows of the episode.
It almost feels like a reboot, but a necessary reboot as far as I'm concerned. It looks like redefining the characters a little bit, their relationships and realigning them for the season was more important than the plot and I'm basically OK with that.

My favorite line:


Clark: "I’ve been holding on to a life on this farm that hasn’t existed for years".

I think it defines the episode.

Obviously, I like the more proactive Clark and I sure hope the showrunners will keep the same spirit throughout the season and resist the mope when Lana will come back.

[michelleMedenilla]

a review of the episode 1..

http://www.ifmagazine.com/review.asp?article=2754

what do u think?

agree or disagree?

in my opinion....

I DEFINITELY AGREE!!!

[LoveHurts38]

Gave a 10 I did enjoy no Clana drama.

[OneWayFilms]

The first 15 minutes of this episide had me sctratching my head, and making me feel like I had missed out on some very important information. I felt lost, and was only given a few lines to explain what happened, but at LEAST I got the explanation.

Once the first 15 min got past, I really got into the episode. It was AWESOME to see the Justice League again, even if it WAS missing a few characters.

This episode felt more like a set up for things to come, but it seems to promise some very exciting things, so I accept it and I am eager to see how it progresses thoughout the season.

It's great to see Clark accept that his time in Smallville is over, but what will he do with the farm? Will he sell it? Will Martha come back to run it? Will we ever see her again?

Does anyone feel that perhaps we might be getting played in reguards to Lex returning? If he REALLY is not coming back, then why is Smallville setting up such an elaberate storyline around him being MISSING and Mercy trying so hard to find him? Anyone think he might come back as a suprise sometime in the season to SHOCK US ALL?

[kraami]

terrible premiere may be the worst yet.

Made no sense that the sun gave his powers back to clark. If clark's desinty was so great then why didnt the MM step in before he got fatally shot BLAH!. Why didnt chloe's power work he was human at the time. I think this was to throw us off prolly blaming it on what she was shot up with. Chimmy blah.

coolest thing i think was the digging up of what may be to play out to be doomsday. Clark gave up his farm life way to easy.

I gave it a 1

[svtwamedfan05]

Loved it. I gave it a 9

[Vegas911]

I was soooo happy!!! I was super stoked when Clark was in a white T instead or a primary color...but he went back to it.....oh well.....I loved Tess, she is devilishly yummy!!!! And I was super happy about the scene between Clark and Lois at the end....man I can't wait for next Thurs.!!!!!! :rotfl:

[LuckyKrypto]

My favorite line:

Clark: "I’ve been holding on to a life on this farm that hasn’t existed for years".

I think it defines the episode.

Obviously, I like the more proactive Clark and I sure hope the showrunners will keep the same spirit throughout the season and resist the mope when Lana will come back.

I couldn't agree with you here more. I loved that line. And it was so great seeing him have that light bulb moment. I just wish he hadn't put on the old red jacket which to me is a part of that life that he is trying to move forward from.

I think the show is off to a great start. They seem to have Clark focused a bit more this season than I've seen in a long time.

[Tacitus]

I thought it was a fantastic episode. I loved every second of it. Good job PS3, keep it up.

[redRound]

They should have given Michael whatever he wanted. Lex would've been awesome in this refreshed setting. We wouldn't need to spend time establishing Tess, who is not going to match Lex in terms of villiany and statue, (though she is doing okay so far), nor will the other villians.

I gave it 8/10.

[Kal26]

Unfortunately, I think they did give MR what he wanted. If you recall, he's been talking about wanting to be off the show, and back to comedy for some time. I wish is wasn't true, but it seems to be. I've heard that he'll be back for a few episodes though.

[coasterprincess]

Not bad....not amazing....but not bad

The Good
~TW is looking sooo sexy. Plus I'm loving the manly more mature Clark....hopefully it's not (yet another) false alarm and we'll get him to stick around this time
~Justin Hartley....I'm in love with this guy. Hopefully as a regular they'll be able to give him a fitting story line that will be a part of SV, but not overshadow Clark like it did to a degree last time he was around. Still looking forward to watching him...his expressions after shooting Clark....awesome
~No Lana!! I know she's coming back eventually for a bit, but to have her not around might give Clark a chance to grow up a bit

The Meh
~Chloe as supercomputer...I didn't make the Braniac connection until I read it in some posts here....still not sure how I feel about it. Basically going to reserve judgement
~Various minions of Lex...I don't want to hate them just because they aren't MR (which I need to make an active effort to do :P) but the new guys are going to have to be really careful how they play them out.

The Bad
~all the mask revealing and JL members getting caught. Separating might help, but people don't forget that and I think that they should have had another sense of danger that could be more believable long term
~No Flash or Cyborg...I'd take them over Aquaman anyday

Overall...not bad. Solid 7

[Jaded Wolf]

Before I say what I thought of this episode I'm need to say that I am through reading the spoilers on this site or anywhere else. They ruin the episode and shame on me for reading them.

Off that soap box. I thought this episode was good and would have been better if I not read the spoilers on it. It was great to see Justin Hartley return and now be included on the cast credits. I really have come to like his interpretation of Green Arrow and the voice change he inacts whenever he dons his hood and glasses. Great character acting!

It's good to see Clark taking major steps forward in this episode as well. Even without his powers, Clark was willing to jump into danger to save his friends and even in the Russian camp he was putting up a fight. I think this is a positive step forward in the right direction.

The things I didn't like about this episode was once again Clark was depowered. They've played this angle way too many times but that's the only complaint I really had about this episode. I also did find Lois' french maid outfit cheesy. Do any maids actually wear those anymore?

All in all a better premiere then what has been shown before in the previous seasons. I hope they can build on this now. It will be interesting to see Clark at the Daily Planet and how the writers will write this. The Daily Planet must like taking in those that have hardly any college education though... Anyways...

[redRound]

Unfortunately, I think they did give MR what he wanted. If you recall, he's been talking about wanting to be off the show, and back to comedy for some time. I wish is wasn't true, but it seems to be. I've heard that he'll be back for a few episodes though.
Yeah, Michael has been adamant about not returning, not even as a guest star. I spent the break getting over the fact that we'll never see Lex again. But watching this première has brought it all back. For so long we had Lex and Lionel in a more mature setting, bringing a gravitas to the show. While on the other hand we had Smallville, which was lighter, more teen-drama. After dragging out the Smallvile side for so long, now that Clark has finally made the move into the adult world, (where Lex can be a full adversary), Lex is gone! It really sucks. I think MR's Lex would have been amazing in this setting.

[miks]

I gave it a 6. The Chlark and the JL saved it from the 1,000,002 plot holes.

[timelord45719]

I'm so tired of clark loosing his powers, hope they don't do that again, I'm so over it.

[disciples of zod]

my sister and i just started college, and our dorm isn't equipped with tv's yet, so we haven't got a chance to watch "Odyssey" yet!!! once it launches on cw.com...we'll watch it!

[All about Clark]

I gave it a 9.

And I have to agree with BadToad, that there wasn't enough Clark to the eppy. And definitely too much Tess. I found her character rather boring so far.

I couldn't tell if Clark had told the JLA that he was an alien prior to this eppy, but it's clear they know now. I really enjoyed the heart to heart that Clark and Oliver had on the plane. This exchange should have been longer IMO.

Also according to the heartbeats, Clark did die before MM took him to the sun. Maybe it was the intenseness of the sun that would break any barrier that Jor-el placed upon him.

I also thought that meant that he wasn't made human so much as just depowered by Jor-el and with that line of thinking, that would explain why Chloe couldn't heal Clark. Maybe her powers have changed, or possibly she still can heal along with added powers. I just felt that Chloe couldn't heal Clark because he was kryptonian and not because she lost the ability. Time will tell.

Clark admitting he needed to move on was very important and does set the stage for a new approach.

I think this premiere did have less special effects than prior premieres and didn't rate as high, but was still very enjoyable. TPTB have always relied on story telling over special effects, this is no surprise.

[superpal1]

I gave it a 9.

I like the direction that this season is heading into. I liked how when Clark died he had those visions. It was a nice sendoff to where he(and we) have been and where he(and we) are going to be going now that he made that decision.

I liked the bickering/bantering between Lois and Clark--that was fun.

I dont mind that Clark was depowered in the beginning. Him still going in for the rescue was important, esp. since he could be hurt. Showed more of a maturity on his part. Chloe not being able to heal Clark is not and issue for me. I think its because he is Kryptonian.

Missed Lex, and even though they focused a little to much on Tess, i think you had to, so that her presence could be felt in the show and they are hoping the fans warm up to her.

Only regret is that at the end when they all go there seperate ways, i was hoping to see Clark superspeed off.

[TomWellingLover122]

I LOVE IT! I loved seeing Clark/Tom scruffy and wet. Tom did a great job when he was dying. I loved the justice league scenes, it would be nice to have had Victor and Bart but o well.....my favorite part was the end about Clark annoying Lois and when she found out about him working there that she was mad even though she smiled at the very end...IT WAS STILL FUNNY!

[TomFanSpace]

I voted 4 because it just seemed too rushed and I didn't see any of the magic that I usually love in the premiere's.For a regular episode it was o.k ,just not a great premiere IMO.

[CoteW]

I Loved it, a great way to start but i wish their was more powers and the rest of the JL team

[petewillreturn]

I liked it and agree with most of the reviews both negative and positive, but I’m very forgiving.

I got a different feel compare to other seasons. Can’t really describe it. I’m interested to see how they are going to develop Tess. I got the feeling she has some kind of obsession with Lex, especially when she told that other women about the desk.

It is great to see a happy positive Clark and not the angst teenager.

His near death experience and seeing all those people from the pass was nice, and gave Clark his light blub moment that he had to move on.

Yes a lot of plot holes that other have mentioned, but I think they can fix them in future episodes.

I also agree with the Lois French maid costume. Who would dress like that to clean, but then these scene will always slip in: Clark in his wet t-shirt and AC taking a shower.

I did with for Bart; hopefully he will be in some future episodes. I love that character.

I think the part I dislike the most was the dues-ex-machinas of MM saving Clark.

My favorite was the ending where Clark said something about home and Lois smiling.

I look forward to this season.:D

[Lexgirl33]

I gave it a 7. It wasn't the best by far and wasn't the worst.

It had its ups and downs. I hate super computer Chloe. Really? Another power? Also, I hate Tess. She just seems like a wannabe replacement for Lex. I guess we had to have one though and truely no one will compare to Michael. I felt it was slow in the first 40 min, or until MM showed up. That was excellent. The fact he gave up his powers for Clark and is now dying surprised me. Clark having some balls now to get out of Smallville was great. FINALLY!

[skywalker28]

Good
-Clark growing a set and possibly a brain by finally realizing that his power (for the most part) is limitless and he can help more than just his friends.
-The scene with MM (who gets cooler and cooler each episode) in the barn and the last scene(s) with the disbanding of the Justice League and talking with Lois at the Daily Planet.
-Justice League in action.
-Chloe looking awesome, despite being in a holding facility for a month.
-Music was fantastic for this episode, I just got downright giddy everytime I heard the Superman music somewhat teased.

Bad
-MM losing his powers (I'll be shocked if it's permanent, also very disappointed)
-The Chloeiac possibility kind of scares me and I'll be further enraged if she ends up a distant relative of Brainiac V.
-Chimmy, yuck.
-No mention of Kara?
-Tess. It feels like the actress portraying her is watching a MR Lex tape and trying to mimic that. It's tough for me to watch a female Lex ripoff.
-Some of the time gaps that weren't fully explained, like Clark escaping collapsing fortress, being found, etc. which made the episode feel somewhat rushed.

Other
-This episode was very similar to the season 7 premiere where Clark finally looks like he is going to Superman-up. I'm hoping he continues to do so throughout the season and I think it is possible with Lana out of the picture.
-The move to Metropolis despite defeating the title/purpose of the show.

[theQuestion]

Okay, time for some Friday Morning (well, afternoon) Quarterbacking:

Gave the premiere a 9.

The good: Justice League! But as usual, the writers seem to have discovered the age old "what the heck do we do with the fish-dude" problem. Would really have rather seen Cyborg again. Or even GA and BC without ol' fishy. They didn't draw out Clark's power loss! I was afraid we'd go a couple of eps waiting for Clark to do something "super." Nice decking of the one goon, though. I like the fact that Clark's responding to Lois's snark in kind. THIS is the Clois we've been waiting for!

The not-so-good: Wow, there was a sucking dark void in the shape of Michael R., no? The new girl Tess seems interesting and may well come into her own, but the villain, as always, drives the plot, and there's an awful lot riding on those slender shoulders. Okay, to everybody who's bemoaning the resurrection of the red jacket, it's going to be around until it's replaced with the same color cape, so let's just make the best of it. I do agree that a throwaway line concerning Clark's civilian attire during the raid would have been a nice touch, missed opportunity there. Why do we have the heroes "splitting up" at the end of the ep when Justin's now a series regular? They'll just have to explain why he's back next week. Count me in on why not even a mention of Kara? Heck, Victor and Bart both got a nod, why not her?

All in all, a good opening. Not perfect, but very good.

[LuckyKrypto]

Before I say what I thought of this episode I'm need to say that I am through reading the spoilers on this site or anywhere else. They ruin the episode and shame on me for reading them.


There is definitely something to be said for that. I fall in the same boat. Last year I stopped reading and found that I loved the show so much better not knowing what was going to happen.
I had seen a few spoilers before this episode, but had to stop myself. I feel the same as you on this, but it's hard when I really want to take a peek!:lol::eek:;)

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His near death experience and seeing all those people from the pass was nice, and gave Clark his light blub moment that he had to move on.


I liked that as well. :)

Kind of a side thought, I hope to see Martha maybe return this season for an episode or something. I miss having her on the show.

[mrw66855]

There were a lot of potholes, but they kind of have to do that, because this is a season premiere and hopefully they can explain some of them later on. Love the episode gave it a 10 out of 10. I actually liked tess she could never place lex, but she comes in a close second. I think people just need time to get used to her.
Also think that tom enjoyed playing Clark, for once. He seemed to be more real to me.

[bimplebean]

Well....

I love the show and am glad it's back. I'm really happy seeing Clark step up and be more assertive, more aggressive; the fact that he was like that without his powers speaks to the true hero that Superman has to be.

SFX were outstanding - the zoomback showing the arctic research site, the flight to the sun, etc. Very well done.

Some very clever bits kept me on the edge of my seat; the slow motion arrow heading for Clark had me thinking he'd somehow get his powers back at the last second -- BUT NO! That was a very thrilling moment.

I *was* disappointed in the story's ending, however, where someone just sweeps in and fixes everything. (Not sure how much I can say here at this point in time -- if a moderator deletes this bit I of course won't contest it.)

I am also of a mixed feeling about Lex's "replacement." She seems like just another fangirl, a woman who is fatally loyal to Lex and has no ambitions of her own. We've seen characters like this before in Smallville and Lex always disposed of them without a thought when they became inconvenient. Why will this woman end up any different? I wish the showrunners had taken more time to set this character up last season; Tess just comes out of nowhere, which strains credulity a bit. With both the Luthors gone the showrunners will have a hard time making Tess and/or LuthorCorp into a credible foe for the Man of Steel. (Now if it comes out that Tess is a Luthor by *blood*, a lost sister or cousin or something, that'd give the character some heft!)

And that brings me to the last part. Clark is a MAN now. I felt a real pang when he expressed his intention to leave the farm. Sure, we all know that's what Superman did, but to actually have it happen now is quite heartbreaking. Clark moving to Metropolis is a very well done and welcome turn of events -- I just hope we don't lose the heart of the show in the process. The Kent Farm is almost as much a character in the story as are the people, so much has happened there. (Minor demerit, though, for how easily Clark got a job at the Daily Planet at a desk across from Lois, all done behind the scenes and him without even the hint of a college degree!)

I'd give this ep a 9 if not for the quickie resolution at the end, which makes me mark it down to a 7.

[MetroGirl06]

8/10. I liked it! But I thought it was a bit crammed. The search for Clark could have lasted longer, and the JL should have had more screen time.

[Fly by guy]

It was good. When they first showed Tess with the dark eyes I thought see was going for the raccoon or clown look.
I didn't see the need in giving Chloe another power. I didn't like the fact that Clark had to be saved from the bad guys by Ollie. He gets help so much I thinking of calling him Bailout, time for the gov't to kick in some assistance.
I'm wondering how Clark is going to live in Smallville, work at the Planet, and Lois not go what the heck. The verbal barbs should fly with those two working together. I just don't believe either one of them qualifies for their job. HMM.
Canary looked GOOD.

[KSiteTV]

I really enjoyed the episode. Things I liked:

- TESS MERCER! Cassidy really knocked it out of the park.
- Great new opening titles
- Good performance by Tom
- Loved seeing the Justice League again
- Allison was great playing Chloe with her new powers... I especially liked the scene where she couldn't heal Clark. Also, her reunion with Clark was nice.
- Erica's new darker hair looks BEAUTIFUL
- I loved that Moira Sullivan tied in to the story. But I did wonder - is she dead now? They seemed to speak of her in past tense.
- Regan is - or was, pretty cool. Like Gina, he was an assistant that I think we took for granted until he was gone.
- The flashbacks! Especially seeing Jonathan and Martha.

Things I disliked:
- The Russian's accent was ATROCIOUS. It was like watching Hogan's Heroes or something.
- I wish we could've seen Bart and Cyborg but understand if it's not affordable.
- Where was Martha while Clark was gone? Or Gabe Sullivan while Chloe was gone?
- Why didn't the Martian Manhunter revert to alien form when he lost his powers? (I asked Phil Morris about this and he says it's because John was now stuck in that form, so really he just can't "change back")

Either way, considering there's no Michael Rosenbaum or Kristin Kreuk anymore *sob* I still think the first outing for Season 8 was a really good one.

[Supes4Ever]

9/10. Had all the elements I have been looking for- the beginning of a more pro-active Clark, and an acknowledgment that his destiny is bigger then just himself, Martian Manhunter and the JL played a role that was necessary rather then being thrown in there to attract viewers, the actors were on their toes during the whole episode, the show had a refreshing new feel that makes it seem like a better new show, and a more mythos approach is beginning to seep through.

As well, all the "plot holes" can be explained through paying attention to the episode or knowing the mythos- for example, MM would lose his powers if he flew directly AT the sun, which he did with Clark, because fire strips him of his power for a short-time frame (It is a psychological barrier he has, because he is AFRAID of fire). The sun is more then just a giver of light, it is essentially a giant fireball. The sun giving Clark back his powers has been explored in the comics before. The orb essentially drained him of his solar energy, which can only be replenished by getting a MASSIVE dose of "unfiltered" sunlight. So he could literally have walked around that Russian camp for years, and may have only gotten SOME of his strength back. Going directly to the Sun was vital to restoring him, as he had not become human, but an extremely weakened Kryptonian. Those are just a few to point out.

The best part is- The rest of this season has the chance to pick-up an immense amount of momentum and be better then simply a decent premiere episode. The reason is they FINALLY cut the strings completely from Al and Miles destruction of the series.

For all those complaining about the premiere, remember this- PS3 had to work with what Al and Miles gave them at the end of Season 7. In order to begin this season, they had to end this connection to a flawed past, which required a large part of the premiere's time. Once that was done, you could see their influence coming through, and it was amazingly refreshing. Just give it a chance.

[lex fan 10]

I Hate It I Give It A 1

[theexxs]

I just have to say that SV is Back and Better!
Finally the gave us a season premiere packed with action from beggining to end!
And the moment when Oliver shots at Clark! Priceless..! Another Highlight was when the Martian Manhunter took Clark to the Sun because Chloe couldn't heal him!
And the Lois/Clark scene at the DP was the best scene made at the DP so far!

My congrats to the new SV showrunners! they made a good job at the season premiere! And I think it's to soon to say if I missed Lex or Lana.

[sexysperm8]

Hate it hate it hate it!!

You must of been watching GREY"S ANATOMY or something!!

DUDE, this episode ROCKED MY SOCKS!! I bet it rocked yours TOO!!:rotfl::rotfl:

[NellieBlye8]

LOVED it!!!

one of the best premieres ever

[badwolf]

I saw it, and I gave it a 5. It wasn't excellent but it wasn't horrible either.

[sexysperm8]

I really enjoyed the episode. Things I liked:

- TESS MERCER! Cassidy really knocked it out of the park.
- Great new opening titles
- Good performance by Tom
- Loved seeing the Justice League again
- Allison was great playing Chloe with her new powers... I especially liked the scene where she couldn't heal Clark. Also, her reunion with Clark was nice.
- Erica's new darker hair looks BEAUTIFUL
- I loved that Moira Sullivan tied in to the story. But I did wonder - is she dead now? They seemed to speak of her in past tense.
- Regan is - or was, pretty cool. Like Gina, he was an assistant that I think we took for granted until he was gone.
- The flashbacks! Especially seeing Jonathan and Martha.



Things I disliked:
- The Russian's accent was ATROCIOUS. It was like watching Hogan's Heroes or something.
- I wish we could've seen Bart and Cyborg but understand if it's not affordable.
- Where was Martha while Clark was gone? Or Gabe Sullivan while Chloe was gone?
- Why didn't the Martian Manhunter revert to alien form when he lost his powers? (I asked Phil Morris about this and he says it's because John was now stuck in that form, so really he just can't "change back")

Either way, considering there's no Michael Rosenbaum or Kristin Kreuk anymore *sob* I still think the first outing for Season 8 was a really good one.

Yes, I was curious about the Martian Manhunter in that way too.

Once he flew Clark to the sun, the MM lost his powers, leaving him an ALIEN, or HUMAN?? If he was left human, then wouldn't have he been burnt right on the spot, since he was RIGHT NEXT TO THE SUN???

Also, when the MM was stripped of his powers in the middle of Space, how did he fly back to Earth??? Did he fall to Earth?? How would've Clark survived the fall if he was stripped of his SUPERMAN abilities???:confused::confused::confused::confuse d::confused:


But WHOA... that scene was PRETTY COOL...

[slayfan]

So here are my thoughts on this highly anticipated episode. There was a lot about it that I liked and a few things I didn't. Mostly I felt, as other have previously stated, that it was too rushed. I would have much rather had either a two hour ep or a two parter. Part one focusing on finding Clark, part two on saving Chloe. Also I think the opening shot of the show should have been Clark wondering through the arctic, freezing and collapsing then fade into the credits with the opening we did get after the credits. It would have made it even more interesting when the JL's busted in to find out what they had found - we would have really been thinking that they had found Clark and been surprised when they didn't. I would have liked to have seen more of Clark in that camp and him actually coming to the realization of how much he really is needed and how imparitive that he get out of there. So I guess I liked the overall story I just didn't like how cut up and shoved together it was. I wanted it fleshed out a little more and even though I've been complaining about the soap opera aspect of this show in the past you can't completely cut out the character moments just for action. I did like what they gave us and to me it looks like we are on the right path.

I do miss Lex though and I'm not too sure about Tess, I will just have to wait and see about her.

Oh and OMG I can't beleive that Clark has FINALLY realized it's time to move on!!!!!!!!! I have been waiting years for this. I might just have to watch the ep again just for that one little speech. It's about time!!!!!

[sexysperm8]

9/10. Had all the elements I have been looking for- the beginning of a more pro-active Clark, and an acknowledgment that his destiny is bigger then just himself, Martian Manhunter and the JL played a role that was necessary rather then being thrown in there to attract viewers, the actors were on their toes during the whole episode, the show had a refreshing new feel that makes it seem like a better new show, and a more mythos approach is beginning to seep through.

As well, all the "plot holes" can be explained through paying attention to the episode or knowing the mythos- for example, MM would lose his powers if he flew directly AT the sun, which he did with Clark, because fire strips him of his power for a short-time frame (It is a psychological barrier he has, because he is AFRAID of fire). The sun is more then just a giver of light, it is essentially a giant fireball. The sun giving Clark back his powers has been explored in the comics before. The orb essentially drained him of his solar energy, which can only be replenished by getting a MASSIVE dose of "unfiltered" sunlight. So he could literally have walked around that Russian camp for years, and may have only gotten SOME of his strength back. Going directly to the Sun was vital to restoring him, as he had not become human, but an extremely weakened Kryptonian. Those are just a few to point out.

The best part is- The rest of this season has the chance to pick-up an immense amount of momentum and be better then simply a decent premiere episode. The reason is they FINALLY cut the strings completely from Al and Miles destruction of the series.

For all those complaining about the premiere, remember this- PS3 had to work with what Al and Miles gave them at the end of Season 7. In order to begin this season, they had to end this connection to a flawed past, which required a large part of the premiere's time. Once that was done, you could see their influence coming through, and it was amazingly refreshing. Just give it a chance.

:\ I couldn't have said it better than that.

***** Al and Miles... let the SMART people take care of smallville!!:mad:

It's only been ONE new episode, and people are ALREADY at the tips of their chairs... Unlike when Al and Miles were here. :(

[Ginx]

9/10

There was a lot of good stuff in this episode but also a lot of questions raised. I'm looking forward to the rest of the season I hope that we get some answers and that they tie some things together. And where was Kara? She was the only one not mentioned in the episode...and she should have been assisting with looking for CK.....

I was also glad that JL played an actual role as well as Lois playing a role as opposed to being just scenery. I just hope we still see the JL around even though they are separating for a while....

[Yankeefan]

9/10

There was a lot of good stuff in this episode but also a lot of questions raised. I'm looking forward to the rest of the season I hope that we get some answers and that they tie some things together. And where was Kara? She was the only one not mentioned in the episode...and she should have been assisting with looking for CK.....

I was also glad that JL played an actual role as well as Lois playing a role as opposed to being just scenery. I just hope we still see the JL around even though they are separating for a while....

Did you not see last years finale? she is traapped in the phantom zone, so she couldnt have assisted in finding clark

[Ginx]

Did you not see last years finale? she is traapped in the phantom zone, so she couldnt have assisted in finding clark

I saw the finale, I know where she is but I guess what I meant was they didn't even mention her.... ok yeah, re-reading my post it doesn't really sound like that - my bad. I just watched SV, SN, and Terminator Sara Connor Chron.... I guess my mind went into a tailspin and I blacked out..... my bad....

I guess I also figured that since everyone else (almost) had escaped their prisons that Kara had managed to get herself out too...... oh well....

[CallMeClark]

There was so much to like about this episode. I honestly didn't feel that Lex's disappearance was that big of a deal.

Things I LOVED:

1. Tess Mercer
2. Chloe's power's changing? It seems when Brainiac infected her their was a power change or transfer.
3. CK dies again! The scene with MM was just great. And the scene with Clark seeing his parents was sad. :(
4. Aquanman shower scene. 'Nough said.
5. Lois and Clark team-up.

I am really looking forward to this season.

[Fallen One]

Noon, Early July.

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Security Guard: When its coldddd outsideee, I've got the month of Mayyyy. I guess, you say, what can make me feel this way-

Al Gough: Hello.

The security guard pauses in shock, slowly turning around. Al Gough and Miles Miller sit in their rental car. Grinning from ear to ear.

Security Guard: Mr. Gough, Mr. Miller.. I-uh, its nice to see you all.

Miles: Same to you.. whoever the hell you are.

Gough: We just came to visit the old crew. Old habits die hard.

Security Guard (gulping): Like..now, this instant?

Gough: Yes of course. Mind opening the gate?

Security Guard: I-I think I should run it by my bosses first. I'm under strict orders to notify them if--

Miles: We use to run this place. I think they won't mind.

A moment of hesitation.

Security Guard: Um.. sure. There ya go. Enjoy your visit.

Miles and Gough wave goodbye as the security guard is seen frantically grabbing for his walkie-talkie.

Security Guard: CODE PINK, DAMMIT!! CODE PINK!!!!

Sitting in a meeting, the members of PS3 jump out of their skins in a mad panic. They sound an alarm to alert the crew of the inevitable. Various workers scramble to cover the new Flight Machine, and prelimnary sketches of Clark in a Superman suit are thrown inside boxes and duct taped.

In walks Gough and Miller. Still grinning.

Gough: Kelly, Brian, Darren, Todd. Its good to see you all.

Akward hugs are exchaged. Miles sees what appears to be a red cape hanging from an opened box.

Miles: Thats not what I think it is, is it?

Darren (nervously): HA HA, of course not.. we're following your legacy.

Kelly gives the evil eye to a worker who quickly closes the open box immediately.

Todd: Its good to see you guys too. We um uh-

Brian: Its a pleasant surprise is what he's trying to see. We didn't expect to see you back so soon.

Kelly: Yeah, we wish you would have called, we could have prepared things better for you.

Miles: Thats ok, everything looks lovely as it is.

Brian: So, would you guys like something to drink?

Gough: Actually, we just came to pay our respects to 'her'.

Miles: Yes we would like to see 'her'. We miss 'her'.

Members of PS3 give each other knowing looks.. each waiting for one of them to say something.

Kelly (nervously): Um I-I don't know if thats a good idea, for now at least. Why don't you guys come in and we'll catch up first..

Gough: Thanks but we have another meeting scheduled shortly and can't stay for too long. We just wanted to stop by and say hi, and then give our yearly thanks to 'her'.

Todd: Its just that we're not sure that-

Miller: I think we can find our way, now please step aside.

Gough and Miller make their way past the executive producers toward a special door on the far left.

Brian Peterson: I wouldn't go in their there Goughlar! You might not like what you find!!

Still, Al and Miles open the door and closes it behind them.

A deep and dark room with weird symbols and neon lighting appear before them. They each admire the scent of pink cotten candy as they make their way down darkness toward their destination.

Miles: Ahhhh.. its like we never left, Al. I knew we left the right guys in charge.

As they walk, they began see a large object on the ground, to their right. Not clear on exactly what it is, they draw closer.

The head of giant statue is revealed to them.

Gough: What the-

A loud THUD is heard as Gough snaps his head back toward his friend. Miles couldn't take what he saw and feinted. With stark determination, Gough travels on further.

20 feet further, he pauses, grabs his heart, and stumbles forward before finally collasping in shock.

A headless statue of Lana holding a pink torch of a burning mini-Superman is revealed.

Gough: Oh my God... I don't believe it... All this time... they finally really did it.

(pounding the floor) YOUUUU MANIACS!!!!!!!!!! YOU BLEW IT UP!!!!!!! AHHHH DAMN YOUUUU!!!! GOT-DAMN YOU ALL TO HELLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ahhh that felt good. Now lets get to my review. I was going to do a thorough scene by scene analysis but I didn't want to bore you all with my lame jokes.

Folks, this is the start of the season we've been waiting for. I sat in front of my tv after it was over and just thought how much this one episode changes things. This entire episode was about change. From the moment that the LuthorCorp search and rescue team appears, it smacks you right in the face that the writers have no choice but to move this story along.

Tess, I liked. But before I start, let me say that she does not replace Lex in the slightest. Lex was on a totally different level. I hope the producers stress that to websites trying to label Tess. I think as a character on her own she's fine, and should stay that way. Right off the bat she makes her presence known to Reagan and his team, and even though it may appear that she's all EEvil, she seems layered.

When the Justice League appeared and just started DOING WORK on anything that moved I thought "wow, the hell with diplomacy". I liked Canary's scream still looks amazing, I really dig that effect.

I liked the opening credits, but then again I doubt they could do anything to make me dislike them. AM getting second billing was expected and I think it logical to do it by seniority. But I have to say, I miss Lex a lot. Not just in the credits, but throughout the episode.

The Lois/Tess scene I thought set up the animosity between the two for the season. And its with that very flash drive that Lois stole that she learns Chloe's whereabouts. So this is a scene that lead to something and was not just thrown in there for shallow reasons. But on a shallow note, hot damn Lois' outfit was shortttt. I hated to see her go but I loved watching her leave. You guys have my permission to use that pick up line.

Chloe is becoming Brainiac #4, and people.. this can NOT end well. Her mind just cannot handle this. I thought it was hilarious though that in this.. "prison" that they only had 4 guards, Chloe wasn't strapped down at all, and the only person in the room with her was Poindexter.

Big ups to Oliver for not giving up in the search for Clark. AC seemed especially enthusiastic to sound intelligent. Poor guy.

Speaking of Clark, he didn't appear on screan until 15 mins into the episode. That was odd and I thought a poor decision. When he did appear he looked hardcore out there in Russia. OH and let me get on this for a moment. The head Russian huncho was speaking with a french accent. A FRENCH ACCENT! What the hell was that aboot?

I enjoyed the mini-fight between Oliver and Clark, along with the follow up conversation in his plane. Clark was right to take responsibilty for his own actions but I really wish that he wouldn't blame himself for the choices that others made. Lex would be evil with or without Clark, and it was Chloe's decision to hack into the government's computers. Besides that, good scenes.

I liked that the writers had not forgotten about Moira's meteor ability and how they used it in this episode. I don't think thats the last we've seen of it either. Chloe betraying her friends was a nice twist however.. spinal fluid? Even my dog put his paw over his nose. I don't even want to know how that looks.

I feel the second half of the episode really picked up, especially when Clark saw Lois. You could see in her face that she was surprised to see him and wanted to say something but couldn't for obvious reasons. Nice double team as they took out the guards. I enjoy the team-up and want as much of it as the writers will give to me. Their chemistry is off the charts.

Their reunion with Chloe was off though. Lois spent all her time looking for Chloe and Chloe didn't so much as look down at her. Another missed opportunity to show them like family. Chlark though did deliver with their reunion. It was a very nice scene between them, and the chemstry between TW and AM continues even after 8 years.

I should have known when Clark was wearing that white shirt that he was done for, but even though I was completely spoiled it was hard to watch that scene with him and Oliver. When he shot him the first time I felt a little upset, and the second time was just.. wow. Right through his body. That was hard watching Clark struggling to get his breath like that. Very emotional scene. When Lana showed up in the flashback my dog went nuts. I was so proud of him.

And can I say YES!!!! to Chloe not being able to heal people anymore. During the commercial break I opened the door and ran around my house in flip-flops.

MM appearing and jumping through the window like that was of course the best special effect of the night. I wish they would have extended the shot of him going through the sun longer.

And here's the scene of the episode. MM and Clark talking in the loft. This where the theme of changed was really hammered home. Leaving behind his life as a farmer, and the memories that hold him back was the most mature thing Clark has said in a long time. And yes, I geeked out when he put on his jacket while the Superman-ly music played. That was a cool moment.

It was at this point where I felt the temperature drop in my room. Then I saw Chimmy and thought "oh that explains it". Poor AA. Guy only gets one scene in the whole episode and its a Chimmy scene. I wonder does AA drink? I think I wouldn't blame him. And when Chloe said yes! to the proposal.. I'm not going to lie everyone... that was the first time that I looked at them and saw that I was out of dip. So I then hurried to the kitchen to get some more. Just in time for the JL scene.

And this was another scene that showed change. A nice convo to wrap everything up within the episode. I am LOVING all this talk about a double identity. I loved it when Clark said it to MM and I did here as well. Form fitting outfit? Yes please.

And finally, I know that some think this was an odd scene to end it on but I think it was perfect. Since Clois will be at the forefront for the season, this scene needed to be last. And about the complaints regarding how he got the job so fast. People.. what show do you watch? Tess got from the Arctic, back to the Luthor Mansion in ONE scene. The Reagan guy got from the Artic, to Metropolis, to Montana in 20 minutes. Things happen fast on this show. Seeing people drive for 3 hours would be boring, and seeing them go up stares, get interviewed, get shown their desk, and then have Clark wait for Lois to get their so they can have their scene would be boring too. I though the scene fit and I have no problems with it. It sets up the season perfectly.

All in all, I thought that it would be extremely differently to wrap up everything and then move the story along in the same episode. But PS3 did it, they really did. The premier didn't have the glamour, the big villian, the expensive amounts of special effects.. but it had heart and it moved the story into its next chapter. The smallville we've been waiting to see is here. Finally. I only wish we could have had it with Lex.

[Remy72883]

This episode was definatley worth waiting for in my opinion. I can't wait to see how they spin the cyrstal into the show once again very exciting the first time around. Wondering whats gonna happen with Chloe. And last but not least to see what happens with Clark like he said being where the action is. Not to mention the development of the famous Lois And Clark saga. Once again a great episode i gave it a 10 +++.

[babyluthor]

I rate it about an 8 out of 10. It started out a little slow and I was getting worried about the future of Smallville, but as the episode progressed, it got better. They really packed a lot into this episode.

Right off the bat, I don't like this new character Tess. She hasen't so much as had her name mentioned in the last 7 years and now she is the CEO of Luthor Corp? What's with the attitude? Who does she think she is? I know it's her 1st episode so she hasn't had time to get into character, but I hope she gets better fast.

So Chloe is super smart now. I, like many of you were wondering how this happened until it was brought up that she might have absorbed Braniac's powers. I'm ok with this. It looks like she lost her healing power. I expected her to heal Clark when he was dying, but she couldn't. I hope she still has her healing power.

The JLA parts were pretty cool even if it's just for show. I wish they could go more into depth with those characters. It was nice to hear a mention of Bart and Victor who were off screen.

I'm confused with Black Canary and the long hair. I didn't recognize her with that. What's the deal, she wears a long hair wig in real life for disguise? Anyway, I like her character even though I think her power is kinda boring.

Ok so it turns out Jor El just stripped Clark of his powers when Lex put the device in the fortress. I'm ok with that, but they could have just said that would happen. What was all the talk about controlling?

I liked the scenes with Oliver and Chloe when they were breaking out. It was a nice throw back when they mentioned Chloe's mom and how they derived the injection formula from her. The scene with Martian Manhunter was pretty cool too.

Even though I'm not a Chimmy fan, I will admit that their scene was pretty cute, and they both seem happy together. Still I'm holding out for Chlark! There were some nice Chlark scenes in this episode.

On the relationship topic, I enjoyed the interaction between Clark and Lois. They make a great combo. With them working side by side at the Daily Planet, we should see a lot of development between them.

I like how they had lots of references and foreshadowing to Clark's destiny of becoming Superman. Hopefully he will stay on that track this season.

I think the biggest cliffhangers are, what happened to Lex, and what is going to happen now that Tess has the Crystal that creates the fortress. It will be interesting to see what happens with that.

Overall a good episode. The season looks promising.

[Darth Pipes]

A few notes of my own...

-That guy Regan looked like Paul Gleason from The Breakfast Club. I'm glad they brought him back from last season. I wish they had established Tess last season. Though I found it strange that he didn't hang around long enough to keep up with Green Arrow. He knew that formula wouldn't last long. Hell, did he even know Oliver could get an answer quickly? Or that he could have killed him when the formula wore off? Sorry, too many questions on this one...

-That headline about Regan should have read "LexCorp executive missing...again." Seriously, who the hell would want to work for Lex Luthor. I don't care how much he's paying you, Lex has entire cemetaries filled with his security personel.

-I agree that the actor who plays AC has gotten a lot better. He says his lines more forcefully and with better conviction. He does more now than just standing around with that dumb grin on his face.

-I read on the IGN review of this episode that Martian Manhunter's does have a weakness to extreme heat from the comics. Getting that close to the sun was basically like getting an extreme dose of kryptonite.

-I think Chloe's new power (which come from Brianiac) make a lot more sense for her character than the boring healing power. Chloe's ability to hack almost anything in seconds seems pretty unnatural as it is.

-I think Jimmy is a weasel and him backing out of this marriage proposal (and giving a lame excuse to do so) isn't even the first time he's shown this side. Remember last season while he was dating Chloe, he saw Kara and immediately started hitting on her. despite all the grief he's given Chloe about pining over Clark. He then breaks up with Chloe and starts dating Kara. But once Karay loses her memory, Jimmy no longer has any interest in her and goes back to Chloe, who keeps taking him back. Bottom line...Jimmy is a weasel.

[australian infected]

Could have been a whole lot better...needed impulse and the bionic dude

[mrw66855]

Noon, Early July.

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Security Guard: When its coldddd outsideee, I've got the month of Mayyyy. I guess, you say, what can make me feel this way-

Al Gough: Hello.

The security guard pauses in shock, slowly turning around. Al Gough and Miles Miller sit in their rental car. Grinning from ear to ear.

Security Guard: Mr. Gough, Mr. Miller.. I-uh, its nice to see you all.

Miles: Same to you.. whoever the hell you are.

Gough: We just came to visit the old crew. Old habits die hard.

Security Guard [gulping]: Like..now, this instant?

Gough: Yes of course. Mind opening the gate?

Security Guard: I-I think I should run it by my bosses first. I'm under strict orders to notify them if-

Miles: We use to run this place. I think they won't mind.

A moment of hesitation.

Security Guard: Um.. sure. There ya go. Enjoy your visit.

Miles and Gough wave goodbye as the security guard is seen frantically grabbing for his walkie-talkie.

Security Guard: CODE PINK, DAMMIT!! CODE PINK!!!!

Sitting in a meeting, the members of PS3 jump out of their skins in a mad panic. They sound an alarm to alert the crew of the inevitable. Various workers scramble to cover the new Flight Machine, and prelimnary sketches of Clark in a Superman suit are thrown inside boxes and duct taped.

In walks Gough and Miller. Still grinning.

Gough: Kelly, Brian, Darren, Todd. Its good to see you all.

Akward hugs are exchaged. Miles sees what appears to be a red cape hanging from an opened box.

Miles: Thats not what I think it is, is it?

Darren [nervously]: HA HA, of course not.. we're following your legacy.

Kelly gives the evil eye to a worker who quickly closes the open box immediately.

Todd: Its good to see you guys too. We um uh-

Brian: Its a pleasant surprise is what he's trying to see. We didn't expect to see you back so soon.

Kelly: Yeah, we wish you would have called, we could have prepared things better for you.

Miles: Thats ok, everything looks lovely as it is.

Brian: So, would you guys like something to drink?

Gough: Actually, we just came to pay our respects to 'her'.

Miles: Yes we would like to see 'her'. We miss 'her'.

Members of PS3 give each other knowing looks.. each waiting for one of them to say something.

Kelly[nervously]: Um I-I don't know if thats a good idea, for now at least. Why don't you guys come in and we'll catch up first.

Gough: Thanks but we have another meeting scheduled shortly and can't stay for too long. We just wanted to stop by and say hi, and then give our yearly thanks to 'her'.

Todd: Its just that we're not sure that-

Miller: I think we can find our way, now please step aside.

Gough and Miller make their way past the executive producers toward a special door on the far left.

Brian Peterson: I wouldn't go in their there Goughlar! You might not like what you find!!

Still, Al and Miles open the door and closes it behind them.

A deep and dark room with weird symbols and neon lighting appear before them. They each admire the scent of pink cotten candy as they make their way down darkness toward their destination.

Miles: Ahhhh.. its like we never left, Al. I knew we left the right guys in charge.

As they walk, they began see a large object on the ground, to their right. Not clear on exactly what it is, they draw closer.

The head of giant statue is revealed to them.

Gough: What the-

A loud THUD is heard as Gough snaps his head back toward his friend. Miles couldn't take what he saw and feinted. With stark determination, Gough travels on further.

20 feet further, he pauses, grabs his heart, and stumbles forward before finally collasping in shock.

A headless statue of Lana holding a pink torch of a burning mini-Superman is revealed.

Gough: Oh my God... I don't believe it... All this time... they finally really did it.

[pounding the floor] YOUUUU MANIACS!!!!!!!!!! YOU BLEW IT UP!!!!!!! AHHHH DAMN YOUUUU!!!! GOT-DAMN YOU ALL TO HELLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ahhh that felt good. Was it as good for you all as it was for me? :rotfl:

Now lets get to my review. I was going to do a thorough scene by scene analysis but I didn't want to bore you all with my lame jokes.

Folks, this is the start of the season we've been waiting for. I sat in front of my tv after it was over and just thought how much this one episode changes things. This entire episode was about change. From the moment that the LuthorCorp search and rescue team appears, it smacks you right in the face that the writers have no choice but to move this story along.

Tess, I liked. But before I start, let me say that she does not replace Lex in the slightest. Lex was on a totally different level. I hope the producers stress that to websites trying to label Tess. I think as a character on her own she's fine, and should stay that way. Right off the bat she makes her presence known to Reagan and his team, and even though it may appear that she's all EEvil, she seems layered.

When the Justice League appeared and just started DOING WORK on anything that moved I thought "wow, the hell with diplomacy". I liked Canary's scream still looks amazing, I really dig that effect.

I liked the opening credits, but then again I doubt they could do anything to make me dislike them. AM getting second billing was expected and I think it logical to do it by seniority. But I have to say, I miss Lex a lot. Not just in the credits, but throughout the episode.

The Lois/Tess scene I thought set up the animosity between the two for the season. And its with that very flash drive that Lois stole that she learns Chloe's whereabouts. So this is a scene that lead to something and was not just thrown in there for shallow reasons. But on a shallow note, hot damn Lois' outfit was shortttt. I hated to see her go but I loved watching her leave. You guys have my permission to use that pick up line.

Chloe is becoming Brainiac #4, and people.. this can NOT end well. Her mind just cannot handle this. I thought it was hilarious though that in this.. "prison" that they only had 4 guards, Chloe wasn't strapped down at all, and the only person in the room with her was Poindexter.

Big ups to Oliver for not giving up in the search for Clark. AC seemed especially enthusiastic to sound intelligent. Poor guy.

Speaking of Clark, he didn't appear on screan until 15 mins into the episode. That was odd and I thought a poor decision. When he did appear he looked hardcore out there in Russia. OH and let me get on this for a moment. The head Russian huncho was speaking with a french accent. A FRENCH ACCENT! What the hell was that aboot?

I enjoyed the mini-fight between Oliver and Clark, along with the follow up conversation in his plane. Clark was right to take responsibilty for his own actions but I really wish that he wouldn't blame himself for the choices that others made. Lex would be evil with or without Clark, and it was Chloe's decision to hack into the government's computers. Besides that, good scenes.

I liked that the writers had not forgotten about Moira's meteor ability and how they used it in this episode. I don't think thats the last we've seen of it either. Chloe betraying her friends was a nice twist however.. spinal fluid? Even my dog put his paw over his nose. I don't even want to know how that looks.

I feel the second half of the episode really picked up, especially when Clark saw Lois. You could see in her face that she was surprised to see him and wanted to say something but couldn't for obvious reasons. Nice double team as they took out the guards. I enjoy the team-up and want as much of it as the writers will give to me. Their chemistry is off the charts.

Their reunion with Chloe was off though. Lois spent all her time looking for Chloe and Chloe didn't so much as look down at her. Another missed opportunity to show them like family. Chlark though did deliver with their reunion. It was a very nice scene between them, and the chemstry between TW and AM continues even after 8 years.

I should have known when Clark was wearing that white shirt that he was done for, but even though I was completely spoiled it was hard to watch that scene with him and Oliver. When he shot him the first time I felt a little upset, and the second time was just.. wow. Right through his body. That was hard watching Clark struggling to get his breath like that. Very emotional scene. When Lana showed up in the flashback my dog went nuts. I was so proud of him.

And can I say YES!!!! to Chloe not being able to heal people anymore. During the commercial break I opened the door and ran around my house in flip-flops.

MM appearing and jumping through the window like that was of course the best special effect of the night. I wish they would have extended the shot of him going through the sun longer.

And here's the scene of the episode. MM and Clark talking in the loft. This where the theme of changed was really hammered home. Leaving behind his life as a farmer, and the memories that hold him back was the most mature thing Clark has said in a long time. And yes, I geeked out when he put on his jacket while the Superman-ly music played. That was a cool moment.

It was at this point where I felt the temperature drop in my room. Then I saw Chimmy and thought "oh that explains it". Poor AA. Guy only gets one scene in the whole episode and its a Chimmy scene. I wonder does AA drink? I think I wouldn't blame him. And when Chloe said yes! to the proposal.. I'm not going to lie everyone... that was the first time that I looked at them and saw that I was out of dip. So I then hurried to the kitchen to get some more. Just in time for the JL scene.

And this was another scene that showed change. A nice convo to wrap everything up within the episode. I am LOVING all this talk about a double identity. I loved it when Clark said it to MM and I did here as well. Form fitting outfit? Yes please.

And finally, I know that some think this was an odd scene to end it on but I think it was perfect. Since Clois will be at the forefront for the season, this scene needed to be last. And about the complaints regarding how he got the job so fast. People.. what show do you watch? Tess got from the Arctic, back to the Luthor Mansion in ONE scene. The Reagan guy got from the Artic, to Metropolis, to Montana in 20 minutes. Things happen fast on this show. Seeing people drive for 3 hours would be boring, and seeing them go up stares, get interviewed, get shown their desk, and then have Clark wait for Lois to get their so they can have their scene would be boring too. I though the scene fit and I have no problems with it. It sets up the season perfectly.

All in all, I thought that it would be extremely differently to wrap up everything and then move the story along in the same episode. But PS3 did it, they really did. The premier didn't have the glamour, the big villian, the expensive amounts of special effects.. but it had heart and it moved the story into its next chapter. The smallville we've been waiting to see is here. Finally. I only wish we could have had it with Lex.
you are 100% right. the top part was funny also. this epp. does not get old.i have seen it 4 times already

[Tacitus]

That guy Regan looked like Paul Gleason from The Breakfast Club. I'm glad they brought him back from last season.

I wasnt digging his character last season, but he was phenomenal yesterday. The guy who plays Regan acted his part superbly. He looked like a more serious villain than Tess. I'm not sure what happened to him, but I hope Tess didn't have him killed. He was quite interesting to watch.


I don't care how much he's paying you, Lex has entire cemetaries filled with his security personel.

:lol: Good one.

[Smallville6]

Noon, Early July.

-------------
Security Guard: When its coldddd outsideee, I've got the month of Mayyyy. I guess, you say, what can make me feel this way-

Al Gough: Hello.

The security guard pauses in shock, slowly turning around. Al Gough and Miles Miller sit in their rental car. Grinning from ear to ear.

Security Guard: Mr. Gough, Mr. Miller.. I-uh, its nice to see you all.

Miles: Same to you.. whoever the hell you are.

Gough: We just came to visit the old crew. Old habits die hard.

Security Guard [gulping]: Like..now, this instant?

Gough: Yes of course. Mind opening the gate?

Security Guard: I-I think I should run it by my bosses first. I'm under strict orders to notify them if-

Miles: We use to run this place. I think they won't mind.

A moment of hesitation.

Security Guard: Um.. sure. There ya go. Enjoy your visit.

Miles and Gough wave goodbye as the security guard is seen frantically grabbing for his walkie-talkie.

Security Guard: CODE PINK, DAMMIT!! CODE PINK!!!!

Sitting in a meeting, the members of PS3 jump out of their skins in a mad panic. They sound an alarm to alert the crew of the inevitable. Various workers scramble to cover the new Flight Machine, and prelimnary sketches of Clark in a Superman suit are thrown inside boxes and duct taped.

In walks Gough and Miller. Still grinning.

Gough: Kelly, Brian, Darren, Todd. Its good to see you all.

Akward hugs are exchaged. Miles sees what appears to be a red cape hanging from an opened box.

Miles: Thats not what I think it is, is it?

Darren [nervously]: HA HA, of course not.. we're following your legacy.

Kelly gives the evil eye to a worker who quickly closes the open box immediately.

Todd: Its good to see you guys too. We um uh-

Brian: Its a pleasant surprise is what he's trying to see. We didn't expect to see you back so soon.

Kelly: Yeah, we wish you would have called, we could have prepared things better for you.

Miles: Thats ok, everything looks lovely as it is.

Brian: So, would you guys like something to drink?

Gough: Actually, we just came to pay our respects to 'her'.

Miles: Yes we would like to see 'her'. We miss 'her'.

Members of PS3 give each other knowing looks.. each waiting for one of them to say something.

Kelly[nervously]: Um I-I don't know if thats a good idea, for now at least. Why don't you guys come in and we'll catch up first.

Gough: Thanks but we have another meeting scheduled shortly and can't stay for too long. We just wanted to stop by and say hi, and then give our yearly thanks to 'her'.

Todd: Its just that we're not sure that-

Miller: I think we can find our way, now please step aside.

Gough and Miller make their way past the executive producers toward a special door on the far left.

Brian Peterson: I wouldn't go in their there Goughlar! You might not like what you find!!

Still, Al and Miles open the door and closes it behind them.

A deep and dark room with weird symbols and neon lighting appear before them. They each admire the scent of pink cotten candy as they make their way down darkness toward their destination.

Miles: Ahhhh.. its like we never left, Al. I knew we left the right guys in charge.

As they walk, they began see a large object on the ground, to their right. Not clear on exactly what it is, they draw closer.

The head of giant statue is revealed to them.

Gough: What the-

A loud THUD is heard as Gough snaps his head back toward his friend. Miles couldn't take what he saw and feinted. With stark determination, Gough travels on further.

20 feet further, he pauses, grabs his heart, and stumbles forward before finally collasping in shock.

A headless statue of Lana holding a pink torch of a burning mini-Superman is revealed.

Gough: Oh my God... I don't believe it... All this time... they finally really did it.

[pounding the floor] YOUUUU MANIACS!!!!!!!!!! YOU BLEW IT UP!!!!!!! AHHHH DAMN YOUUUU!!!! GOT-DAMN YOU ALL TO HELLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[maitriniazngurl]

Season premeire: Not as bad as i thought it would be. Interesting... but I definitely miss Kristin Kreuk and MR.

They definitely need to bring KK, MR, JS, AT, and the original ppl back if this year is the series finale!

And some supernatural crossovers would be GREAT!

[Jawth]

It was one of the best episodes in the series. I really missed Cyborg and Impulse, but at least they mentioned them and gave a plausible excuse for why they weren't in the episode.

It's a shame we lost Lex, but getting rid of Lana and Kara make up for it. This "Tess" character looks promising as well, but the truth is that no one will be able to fully replace Luthor. Adding GA as a regular further helps make Rosenbaum's departure less painfull.

We finally seen Clark act like a man and take action, get a job at the Daily Planet and have some actual tension between him and Lois. For the first time in a long time, Clark is seeing some character development. With his parents, Jor-El, Lionel, and now J'onn gone, he will finally have to stand up for himself and take his destiny into his own hands.

The Smallville we love is finally back in Spades.

[Darth Pipes]

I miss Lex but I do not miss Lana or Kara. I do miss Kara's lovely presence on my TV screen though.

[TheLeague]

Hate it hate it hate it!!
obvious lanafanboy is obvious clearly you dont like quality shows in theyre prime do u

that said i thought it was the best premier EVER! i was glued all the way through!

i loved it so much i watched it 5 times!

[kiariclois]

You know I loved the most?

This :D :

http://i36.tinypic.com/6e43lh.jpg

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

I'm so bad! But I did grin madly when I saw it :P Finally, people who seem to know how to handle Clark and the other iconic characters. I love everything in the episode. One thing I don't like; The plot regarding Chloe's power. :p

[CK&CK]

Well, I had no doubts I'd watch the season's premiere......what with the Justice League and all....here's what I Loved and Loathed.

Loved:

The JLU intros......awesome......AC's was the most exciting, but Green Arrow's was the slickest.....with the reflection in his shades.....and BC's scream was uber cool.

Pretty much all of Chloe's scenes........I loved the way she stopped at the last 3 digits of the final cell phone number.

Oliver's attitude when saying "Clark would never give up on us....we won't give up on him".

The Lois & Clark ecounter and Banter when at the facility that was holding Chloe.....I'm usually not big on the same old "Lois & Clark" stuff.....but if it's well done and delivered.....what the heck.....that scene was great....even if she did get knocked out again.

The fight between Clark and Ollie when Ollie finds him.

The spinal fluid that used to control Chloe was a good twist, although it did bug me that while under the control of spinal fluid....the bad guys didn't bother to ask Green Arrow who he was.......suspension of belif doesn't help me here.....I blatantly have to just ignore it.....but what the hell : )

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Hated:

The Clark almost dying at the end seemed kind of anti-climactic.....in addition, the guy playing the Martian Man Hunter....is kind of ehhh.

I was soooooo hoping to not see any of the cheeeeesey, and artificially sweet Chimmy during this JLU episode......but it was not to be.......I actually thought Chloe was the awesome character that she used to be.....but then....taking into account what originally happen in the first 5 seasons or so......she went...(all in one episode) from awesome......to flat out loser again. Years of hoping to get somthing worthy of Chlark....only to get the James Bond wanna be.....I still find that laughable....if not pathetic.

I get the impression that these writters....in their self glorified wisdom....want to try to create a family dynamic between Clark, Lois, Chloe and Jimmy-O.......in much the same vein as Bruce Wayne, Barbara Gordon, Dick Grayson, and Alfred........of course there is only one couple in this last group....but the family dynamic is evident.......but in Smallvilles' case.....being that Chloe's been 2nd Love Bananna to the Pink Princess for 6years....and now pretty much shoved aside by Lois......well, "Loser" is pretty appropriate......these idiot writters just don't get this.....Chloe doesn't need a pathetic love interest to be interesting.....but ehh.....I'd rather Chloe was alone than to keep thinking of her as a pathetic loser....and these writters can try and make Jimmy as noble and loving as they want....but what the writters don't get is that compared to the potential bar that was set by the past seasons....Chloe comes off as a total loser next to Lois and her Man of Steel.

The Clois scene at the end.....was acually well filmed, and well acted....and Erica.....can we say "Huba, Huba" (CK&CK slaps self....and repeats "I will not think wicked thoughts.....I will not think wicked thoughts.....etc......ahh, whom I kidding...you all know I'm lying through my teeth), but I still couldn't help rolling my eyes.....especially given the lightswitch storytelling.

Some of the Cheesey dialogue...and there wasn't much.....but "Fish out of water" definitely didn't help move the show toward an Emmy anytime soon....(though it didn't kill the scene for me though....Viva La Justice League!!!!!)

Almost as bad as the cheesey Chimmy.....actually....it was just as bad.....was the Pretentious Pink one being glorified by the writters yet again....as the selfless one who nobley gives up Clark to the world.....because the World needs him more......and I must point out....that as of several seasons ago....quite a few people (including myself) had predicted that the writters would cop out with this exact bit of pretentious garbage. I half expected Lana to say......"the world needs you more Clark....so I....Lana Lang of Smallville......now release you....and your testicles....to the world.......so let it be written.....so let it be done".....cue music of biblical proportions.

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All in all......and except for the 2 parings at the end.....I really enjoyed it. Will I watch the remaining epsiodes?......well, the JLU ones for sure......all else.....probably not.....despite a for the most part... well done premiere episode (especially considering Smallvilles' budget).....however,it is still...again, for the most part obvious where these writters are heading....and if ....(dare I say it)...if they surprise me...then I'll be the first to admit that I was wrong........though I admit that I'll probably be reading these message boards first.....all I ask is that they put up a "Chimmy Up Ahead" warning sign.....so that I can respectfully avoid another tango with the pathetic duo.... (and I can't believe I'm going to say this next part).....even Clana in the early seasons was more enjoyable than watching Chloe's epic Chimmy love bloom). JMHO.

I gave it an 8.

[CallMeClark]

You know I loved the most?

This :D :

http://i36.tinypic.com/6e43lh.jpg

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

I'm so bad! But I did grin madly when I saw it :P Finally, people who seem to know how to handle Clark and the other iconic characters. I love everything in the episode. One thing I don't like; The plot regarding Chloe's power. :p
Don't feel bad. I grinned too.

[Hopefulsuicide]

i gave it a 7

i loved the episode for a lot of reasons, it enjoyable, most everything was wrapped up, and the hints of what's to come are very promising

- it was sweeping veritas under the carpet, which i'm glad about because i hated that storyline. the further away we get from that the better.

- it had Clark actually realising that he's been on the barn too long. i decided the most beautiful three words to come out of Clark's mouth in 8 seasons is 'Let it go'. i mean i literally grinned from ear to ear when i heard him say that. god if only we'd known it only took a few months in russia for him to have that epiphany, eh?

-actually am really liking the clois, sometimes it makes me roll my eyes a bit, but it's just so much fun to have some banter back. and i'm a big LnC fan, so it has a lot to live up to for me, but so far i'm enjoying it this season

- i really liked Tess' character, lines and the actress pulled everything off pretty well. i'm looking forward to seeing more of her, as i think she's a bit different, and there is obviously a lot going on behind the cold calm surface... though i think she talks too slow... something is just a bit off about it

-the justice league... need i say anymore. it's just always brilliant when they are in it. and we can all look forward to more green leather! i know it's weird but i think having the bright colours around actually affects the mood of the show

-a general change in tone... paving the way for a Smallville nothing like season 7, i hope. a lot of the old complaints i used to have were still there, but i didn't mind them so much because i could feel season 7 slipping away.

things i didn't like

-TW's acting was less than brilliant in some of the scenes. he was good in the last scene, but most the way through the episode he was dead pan and a little wet... his acting comes so much more alive when he puts emotion into it, which is why him smiling in the last scene made it so vibrant. Happiness, there's an emotion i haven't seen him use too much

-i'm sort of half and half on the dialogue. sometimes it was good, and was pulled off well... sometimes it was cliched, flat and boring. i'd love to see some of the simple sweet dialogue we used to get in season 1 back. at least it showed the writers had intellegence enough to pull off a conversation that was natural

-i got very annoyed when Clark looked in a door at the black creek facility, saw there was a person in there, and told no one about it, and made no attempt to save that person. any other prisoners of Lex's where just unimportant i guess... but i thought that's what Oliver and the gang had been doing all this time... he said they hadn't hit black creek yet, but while they were in there surely they wouldnt have been able to leave without trying to save everyone

- can't understand why Oliver was asked to do everything in his power to find Lex. it's a temporary drug, what on earth could he do in the two minutes it lasted. and why did regan leave? why didnt he follow Oliver. he basically gave him a stupid order and then let him go free. and why does Oliver shoot Clark anyway? he knows Clark doesn't know where Lex is, how is shooting him going to help? especially not to death. plus it lead to Justin Hartley's stupidest line ever 'Clark, can you hear me?'... of course he can hear you, he's conscious, looking right at you and talking...

-Martian Manhunters involvement was just awful. 1. i dont like that the sun healed him and gave him his powers back. to me, that's not how it works. but then i dont think his powers shud be so easy to take away... it's not just a switch in his brain, it's in his molecular structure. plus, as soon as MM said he had lost his powers i thought 'oh god, another thing for Clark to feel guilty about'. Plus, i really don't like that red jacket thing. for one, how did MM get the red jacket, Oliver was the one who had it. 2. they both seemed to treat the jacket like a crown or something. i can understand why the audience sees it as a symbol but why does Clark... it's just one of his old jackets...

-my last point i'm going to hold off on fully making until after the next episode. i hope there will be some explanation for how Clark got the job

[kiariclois]

Don't feel bad. I grinned too.

That's good to know :D

[SueB]

Finally watched it - it's much better when you can speed thru the obnoxious parts.

Good bits:
- Clark more proactive. Clark still a hero without his powers. Ollie saying Clark was kindof useless but he still drove the action forward.
- Aquaman thru the ice. Best use of Acquman to date.
- ISIS is clearly the JL center. They moved in like it's the new clubhouse for Scooby and the gang. Offsets a tiny amount of the bitterness over the SWF of Lois over Chloe at the DP. Not enough to make that throwing Chloe out of the DP acceptable, but takes off some of the edge.
- Chlark BFF have the best relationship on the show. The unfortunate reality is that I know they are destroying that -- but it is nice to be reminded so clearly with the hug and the attempted save.
- I liked Tess finding the FOS crystal and her reverence for Lex. Other than that Tess was "meh".

Bad bits:
Offscreenville-
- Ollie learns Clark is an alien. This was a big deal and it deserved a few minutes of on-screen time on the airplane.
- Clark decides the Daily Planet is his best "laying low" location. This rationale needs to be explained. The jump to annoying Lois in the basement -- they really made it look like a lightswitch. Seriously, I understand the Cloisers wanted the Clark and Lois banter, but the plot suffered so they could praise each other's abilities in Montana. All of the Daily Planet should have been left to the next episode. I think a far better ending would have been Clark looking at the Daily Planet in the building and telling the JL that he thinks he's got an idea of how he could plug into finding Lex and stay in the middle of things in Metropolis --- cue the DP spinning globe & superman music, end credits. A far better setup than the cutesy Clois ending. Is the Clois romance more important than his entrance into DP? Apparently so. What a mistake.

It's true because we said so-
- Chloe loves Jimmy. That's the message because they said so. Most don't see it, me included, but the show thinks they've made their point.

Gratuitous Lois
- A French Maid's costume? Really? This was really lame. And the "Oui Oui?". Who would say that? Who would get a French Maid's costume from the Halloween Shop for an undercover disguise. The Luthor mansion never had people dressed like that. They need Lois to earn people's respect. Stop having her "flirt up keys" and play plastic dressup. Her entrance credits are still the swimsuit scene and pleathor kick box move. Knock it off.
- Lois at the Black Creek facility -- clunky from a story perspective. If she was going to go there, we needed one more scene showing her at her computer getting the data and going "bingo!". 30 seconds. tops. Instead, she's there being bombastic. Again.


Show direction:
- Turning Chloe literally into Chloogle and sending her character in a completely new direction in order to clear the way for the ICONIC! Lois and Clark at the DP. Still hate it, still looks clunky and obvious. Lois still not worthy of being Clark's Scooby partner.
- It's a reboot. I know TPTB don't like the term, but the only reminder of Smallville is Lois using that as Clark's nickname. The death of Smallville occurred in the "death" of Clark in Montana. The "goodbye" video to Lana, Martha and Jonathon. Chloe is now a new character. The action is in Metropolis. They are all moved on (not moving on ... moved on) from Smallville.

I wanted Clark to be more mature. I wanted to watch -- instead it all happened in offscreenville and with a lightswitch or three.

Bottom line:

As expected, they moved the show to "Metropolis" and the name of the series is seriously misleading. Some good action moments and a couple of nice scenes but the pacing, the contrivances, and the editing overshadowed the episode. This tendency to have a patchwork quilt of scenes that are randomly thrown together has been increasing over the years. It presumes more fan patience than is reasonable to expect. This is firmly a DVR-at-best show.

[Hopefulsuicide]

that's a good point... we have been watching for 7 years to see the transition, and they just skipping a huge chunk because they don't know how to do it properly...

[kiariclois]

Offscreenville-
- Ollie learns Clark is an alien. This was a big deal and it deserved a few minutes of on-screen time on the airplane.
- Clark decides the Daily Planet is his best "laying low" location. This rationale needs to be explained. The jump to annoying Lois in the basement -- they really made it look like a lightswitch. Seriously, I understand the Cloisers wanted the Clark and Lois banter, but the plot suffered so they could praise each other's abilities in Montana. All of the Daily Planet should have been left to the next episode. I think a far better ending would have been Clark looking at the Daily Planet in the building and telling the JL that he thinks he's got an idea of how he could plug into finding Lex and stay in the middle of things in Metropolis --- cue the DP spinning globe & superman music, end credits. A far better setup than the cutesy Clois ending. Is the Clois romance more important than his entrance into DP? Apparently so. What a mistake.

There's no Clois romance, for goodness sakes. It's just an innocent meeting between two friends. I think it's clever that PS3 are heading to the DP scene in the very end, because that's how the premiere should be having. The ending scene simply tells viewers that Clark will be working at the daily planet, and for those who don't read spoilers surprise. Most of us here expected Clark to work for the DP, but not really those who ran far away from spoiler :p I reckon if it's not Lois, Clark was having the conversation with, people would ignore this supposed "flaw" of the episode.

I'm glad they don't waste time with Ollie/Clark convo regarding Clark's origin, it would take up more time, and with all these different plot, some things are better be left in offscreenville, unless we have 2 hours premiere. :p


It's true because we said so-
- Chloe loves Jimmy. That's the message because they said so. Most don't see it, me included, but the show thinks they've made their point.

Hmm... I think from the previous season, we can really see Chloe falls for Jimmy for good, IF we allow ourselves to see it. I think the last season there are a lot of times we've seen Chloe having heartache because of Jimmy. One thing when he's close with Kara, I saw jealousy, and I say it's telling that Chloe has strong feelings towards Jimmy.


Gratuitous Lois
- A French Maid's costume? Really? This was really lame. And the "Oui Oui?". Who would say that? Who would get a French Maid's costume from the Halloween Shop for an undercover disguise. The Luthor mansion never had people dressed like that. They need Lois to earn people's respect. Stop having her "flirt up keys" and play plastic dressup. Her entrance credits are still the swimsuit scene and pleathor kick box move. Knock it off.
- Lois at the Black Creek facility -- clunky from a story perspective. If she was going to go there, we needed one more scene showing her at her computer getting the data and going "bingo!". 30 seconds. tops. Instead, she's there being bombastic. Again.

We've never really seen the whole Luthor staff, have we? In most investigative story, I do feel that the whole "flirt up keys" and "play pastic dress up" is how investigators tend to do when they hunt for something (and what ILL does in other incarnations). It's quite normal, and in SV, I think it's brilliant. I'm quite pleased on how they wrote Lois in the episode, with the exception of one scene where she was being knocked down again :p

[MBrittan]

Yes, I'm glad Smallville is back. Yes, I enjoyed the episode. Even when Smallville is "bad" it's still "good". But my opinion of this episode is that it's sole purpose was to "fix" the damage caused by Arctic. They painted themselves so deep into a corner in Arctic that it really took some creative storytelling to get themselves out of it. Some questions that were (and were not) answered to my satisfaction:
#1 How exactly did the orb "control" Clark? -- Answer: it took away his powers. Probably a much simpler explanation than we were all expecting, but hey, it works.
#2 How exactly would Clark come back from all of this? -- Answer: with the Justice League's help. Again, makes sense. It felt like they invented a "purpose" for the Justice League in the episode "Justice" just to have a reason to bring all of the characters back. This time, they had a legitimate reason to rally together. Clark. I'll buy that too.
#3 How is Chloe going to "escape" from the government? -- Answer: she was never taken in the custody by the government in the first place. It was Lex's goons pretending to be government agents. Not the first time Luthcorp employees have pretended to be government officials. Again, I'll buy it.
#4 Kara?!!? -- Her absense was NOT answered to my satisfaction. Yes, we saw her in the phantom zone. But does CLARK know where she is? Would he just forget about her? It sure seems like he did...
#5 Lex?!!? --His absence cannot be explained. It just can't. If Clark was mortal and he survived the collapse of the fortress, then Lex should have too. We know he does because he appears later on in the Superman mythos. But where is he now? Is there really anywhere on earth where he can't be found? Even a desert island wasn't enough to keep him isolated from the world.

Something I had a real problem with was Tess. She's going to take some getting used to. IMO, she's a cheap carbon copy of Lex. They're trying to make her into a female Lex and it just isn't going to work. The actress they have playing her ISN'T Michael Rosenbaum and she never will be. I think they should have written her character differently. Instead of making her a mirror image of Lex, turn her into a sympathetic character. Or a character with a different agenda. Different sensibilities.

I thought Justin Hartley stole the show last night. He was did an awesome job as Green Arrow (again). He adds so much to that show. I'm not sure how I feel about Chloe's powers changing. Did they give us a reason? Another poster suggested that maybe it was because of what Brainiac did to her. I guess that makes sense.

I did have a problem with the Clark death scene (again). This has been done. The last time, the cost of restoring Clark's life was the life of a loved one. How come that proviso wasn't given this time? If a trip to the sun was all it takes to bring him back from the dead, then why didn't the Martian Manhunter show up last time to do the same when he was shot in Mortal? It just struck me as inconsistent (what happens when Clark dies - how others try to bring him back).

I enjoyed the scene in Russia with Clark and Oliver. I thought that was clever. The scene when Chloe accepted Jimmy's proposal was clumsy - not very well written. I enjoyed the scene where AC burst out from under the ice in the Arctic. That was cool. The scene at the end with Clark and Lois at the Planet was well done as well.

-M-

[Yasise]

Hopefulsuicide and SueB, I so much agree with both of you!

I gave this episode a 6, because I wasn't really overwhelmed after having watched it. I was happy to see Tom again and he really looked sooooo good, but all those "Bad bits" SueB mentioned or all the scenes Becky didn't like were just too much to leave me with a "wow, this episode was awsome" kind of thought.

Tom seems to be more happy to "be" Clark Kent and therefore I'm happy, because as I used to say in some of the threads for season 7, he didn't look like he was enjoying his work last season.

As I said before, this episode was o.k. and it left some hope in my heart, that this season's going to be better than season 7, but actually it's not too difficult to be better than that season, because IMO season 7 was the worst of all seasons of Smallville until today.

I'm glad that there won't be much "Clana" this season and I'm really relieved that they decided to not show much of Kara.

Well, that's all from me - let's see how "Smallville" turns into "Lois and Clark" from now on.
At least Clois promises to bring in more fun than all that Clana up-and-down-stuff of the last seasons.

[unfocused]

Yes, I'm glad Smallville is back. Yes, I enjoyed the episode. Even when Smallville is "bad" it's still "good". But my opinion of this episode is that it's sole purpose was to "fix" the damage caused by Arctic. They painted themselves so deep into a corner in Arctic that it really took some creative storytelling to get themselves out of it.

I agree with much of what you said in your entire post. There was a lot for WPS3 to overcome in order to make a good S8 premier, so i give them many props for what they were able to do.

[Tatiana]

I loved it, it was exciting, Clark had a wonderful attitude and I think it was different from past seasons, although some people might say it is the same attitude he had and in the last season for Bizarro, but to me he was more moping around and saying he was ready to start his training, this time he said he was ready to leave the farm behind and stop hiding and he seemed to be dealing fine with Lana leaving. Special effects were awesome, got goose bumps when I saw Aquaman and Black Canary, loved her comment about Clark wearing a more "form fitting" costume lol and Lois and Clark last scene together was classic, her face when he walked away was super cute and sexy

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About Chloe's powers, even though they didn't give an explanation yet....as I am sure they will throughout the show, to me it is pretty clear it has something to do with what happened to her last time with Brainiac, after all he got weak because of her no? then she must have somehow absorbed his powers of a computer, she absorbs people's wounds or pain, healing them...so to me it seems she can now see things as a computer like brainiac. We'll see I guess what they show us

[Yasise]

About Chloe's powers, even though they didn't give an explanation yet....as I am sure they will throughout the show, to me it is pretty clear it has something to do with what happened to her last time with Brainiac, after all he got weak because of her no? then she must have somehow absorbed his powers of a computer, she absorbs people's wounds or pain, healing them...so to me it seems she can now see things as a computer like brainiac. We'll see I guess what they show us

Yes, I think so, too. Good explanation :)

[kiariclois]

I thought Justin Hartley stole the show last night. He was did an awesome job as Green Arrow (again). He adds so much to that show.

I agree with this. I think this is the best work Justin has showed us in SV so far. I really like the special effects at the beginning of the episode. I think Ollie, Dinah and AC brought so much in this first episode. I really love Dinah in the episode too. I have the feeling that the future Justice League episode will be a LOT better.



I enjoyed the scene in Russia with Clark and Oliver. I thought that was clever.

:lol: yes, I agree with you here. and I have to say, two HOT guys fighting is always a good thing :p and not to mention Lois and Tess going head to head was really interesting.



The scene when Chloe accepted Jimmy's proposal was clumsy - not very well written.

As much as I love the whole Chimmy thing, I do agree with you there. It could've been better.

[unfocused]

I'm not afraid to admit that I slightly choked up when Chloe gave him his answer. I love Chloe :(

[SparkleforSmallville]

I loved Odyssey and the new direction.
The "Previously on Smallville" was AWESOME!
The Justice League!:D
I thought the transition went very smoothly. It almost seemed Lex was there, they mentioned his name so many times(i'm going to go count how many) If we can't have MR this was..... pretty good.

Oliver's jet scene was important, glad it wasn't in offscreenville;)

Loved seeing Clark really fighting, and the chemistry with JH and TW. Tess had some subtle expressions that were interesting, like when Lois walked out of the Mansion.
I guess Chloe absorbed Braniacs intellegence, wonder what happened to the healing?
I just don't feel anything with Chimmy:/

The arrow going thru Clark, then MM flying him away, Intense!!
I'm looking forward to the banter and humor of Clark and Lois and Clark's new assertiveness. Clark was actually smiling!

The Loft scene, Wow! I liked that they used Clark's dying, for him realize that he had never said good-bye, and was hanging on to a life that didn't exist anymore. We all do that, sometimes. Very real. Letting go, deep breath, a little nod.

I'm really excited for S8. The hint of the FOS return, outstanding!!!:)

[Remy72883]

I loved it, it was exciting, Clark had a wonderful attitude and I think it was different from past seasons, although some people might say it is the same attitude he had and in the last season for Bizarro, but to me he was more moping around and saying he was ready to start his training, this time he said he was ready to leave the farm behind and stop hiding and he seemed to be dealing fine with Lana leaving. Special effects were awesome, got goose bumps when I saw Aquaman and Black Canary, loved her comment about Clark wearing a more "form fitting" costume lol and Lois and Clark last scene together was classic, her face when he walked away was super cute and sexy

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About Chloe's powers, even though they didn't give an explanation yet....as I am sure they will throughout the show, to me it is pretty clear it has something to do with what happened to her last time with Brainiac, after all he got weak because of her no? then she must have somehow absorbed his powers of a computer, she absorbs people's wounds or pain, healing them...so to me it seems she can now see things as a computer like brainiac. We'll see I guess what they show us


Well if you think about it her power was to be able to heal right. Maybe because braniac was still damaged when he touch her she healed him and in turn fused. Cause whenever she obsorb someone else pain it bacame a part of her maybe just maybe she got alittle bit of him inside her when the struggle went down.

[unfocused]

Wow, so many people are voting Excellent. I didn't think Odyssey made such an impression on so many here.

[kiariclois]

Wow, so many people are voting Excellent. I didn't think Odyssey made such an impression on so many here.

:lol: Yeah... Most voted for 5 and above, so I guess it's a great start. :D

[Crusader]

I thought this episode was great! It was actually so much better written, directed etc than many episodes i've seen in a long time. Hopefully this season will be awesome!

[krewsaider]

Great episode. I noticed a difference from the first seven seasons and loved it. I hope they keep this up!

[6-Super-Man -5]

Great episode. I noticed a difference from the first seven seasons and loved it. I hope they keep this up!

Me as well!

[blackcelebration]

Having had some time to analyse the episode I've decided to give this review a go.

Summary

* Clark gets captured by nasty Russian guys.
* Tess is the new Lex.
* Green Arow & Co. rescue Clark
* Chloe being prisoned by National Security who aren't National Security oh & she's also Chloiac.
* Clark & co. rescue Chloe.
* Green Arrow arrows Clark in the heart.
* Clark dies... AGAIN.
* Martian Manhunter brings Clark back from the dead but loses powers.
* Chloe says yes to Jimmy's proposal... PUKE!
* Clark joins Daily Planet as a reporter along side Lois.

THE GOOD

* For the first time in ages there was actual character progress especially for Clark. I also like that it was Clark's decision to rescue Chloe & he was mainly the person who was giving out instructions during her breakaway.

* Cool effects from The Arrow piercing Clark to The Green Arrow & Co. attack on Tess's centre in The Arctic.

* Actually interested on what they'll do with the Chloiac angle as this storyline has a million possibilities & is way more interesting than her healing Meteor story line.


THE BAD

So many plot holes that you could drive a tank through it.

HERE'S A LIST...

* Clark being boated from the Arctic to Russia by mysterious boatman???

* How did Ollie find Clark??? This was never explained.

* What happened to Ollie & Co. after J'onn rescued Clark??? Why didn't he come back to help???

* Despite having no degree or experience in Journalism Clark can not only just walk in & work for one of the Worlds leading News Papers but can become an investigative reporter too... OK I know so can Lois:rotfl:

* Of course the most obvious... Why didn't Clark even mention about Kara??? I mean it's not as if she's oh I don't know... HIS COUSIN!:lol:

THE REST

* I'm saving judgement for the Tess character until later in the season. For now she sadly seems like a poor ladies Lex Luthor but she was in BOSSY mode around her workers so until I see how she acts around people who don't work for her & we see her true personality (cos in this episode we didn't) I'll save judgement.

* I hated that Chloe said yes to Jimmy. Sorry but these two have zero chemistry. No it's not the actors, it's the writing it's like they put these two on the screen together & then have them blurt out I love you a million times for no reason at all. Sorry but it's just makes me PUKE everytime I see them both together on screen. Although I still like Chloe but Jimmy (now Lana is gone) is definitely my least favourite character because he serves no real purpose in the show other to recite puky, cliche, love poetry & bad poetry at that.

TO CONCLUDE

Not really a great episode in truth. Although at least for once the characters were in character. Was also great to see Clark setting the initiative for a change. So in all honesty Clark's character progression balances out the millions of plot holes this episode had.

So grading this I'd say....

Story 2/10
Clark 7/10

So that's 9/20 or 4.5/10 but I'll give it 5 just to be nice.

Sadly dissapointing, actually very dissapointing for a season Premier.

Comparing to others.

Pilot 10/10
Vortex 9/10
Exile 10/10
Crusade 8/10
Arrival 8/10
Zod 9/10
Bizzaro 8/10
Odyssey 5/10


In truth since Season 4 that the majority of episodes after The Premier dropped dramatically in quality let's hope that this season proves to be the opposite.:\

[Hopefulsuicide]

i think i really would have loved to see Clark's explanation for why he wanted to work for the daily planet be more than just one sentance. i imagine Clark being 'at home' in the DP, really being grateful for his chance to be a part of such an amazing paper... instead he just seemed kinda smug...

[krewsaider]

He needed to be smug to go against Lois's spunk. ;)

[Jawth]

The only plot hole that annoyed me was that they didn't call Cyborg and Impulse to help rescue the rest of the League. I mean, Bart could have been there in a matter of seconds.

As for what happened after the Martain Manhunter rescued Clark, it's fairly safe to say they got out the same way Clark and Ollie got there.

Pertaining to the fact Clark is a full reporter, Lois seemed very surprised he got the position as well. I do figure that whoever runs the DP now knows Lex had a very special interest in Clark for some reason, even if the most they know is that they were once friends, and since Luthorcorp owns the Daily Planet....You get the idea.

He never mentioned Lana either. Clark simply had too much to worry about to be panic about Kara since he couldn't do anything to help her. not the case with Chloe. For all we know, Clark believes Kara to be dead.

I think most of blackcelebration's plotholes are the fault of not enough screen time.

[RedKRules]

I totally loved it!!!!! I give it 10!!!!!!!

[Hopefulsuicide]

i think the rest of the justice league not showing up is excusable cause it's up the actors

and lana was mentioned... in fact her images were shown too

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

I thought this epi was great. The only thing that was really confusing, was how did Oliver find Clark? I still don't get that.

[MBrittan]

I agree with much of what you said in your entire post. There was a lot for WPS3 to overcome in order to make a good S8 premier, so i give them many props for what they were able to do.

There's a "W" in "PS3" now? Did I miss something? Maybe we could add an "A" for "Asstroff"? :rotfl:
-M-

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Originally Posted by unfocused http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4005010#post4005010)
Wow, so many people are voting Excellent. I didn't think Odyssey made such an impression on so many here.

I think they're probably just happy the show is back. I don't blame them. I'm glad it's back too. :)
-M-

[Jawth]

i think the rest of the justice league not showing up is excusable cause it's up the actors

and lana was mentioned... in fact her images were shown too


I know, but they could at least explain why they couldn't come instead of just ignoring such a huge asset.

As for Lana, I guess I just mentally blocked out anything to do with her.

[BULLITT]

A solid 8.

[SparkleforSmallville]

Black Canary said, that Victor and Bart were covering the entire Southern Hemisphere looking for Clark. That doesn't seem like a plot hole?

[Jawth]

Black Canary said, that Victor and Bart were covering the entire Southern Hemisphere looking for Clark. That doesn't seem like a plot hole?

And he didn't call Bart saying he found Clark and for him to come help free Chloe why?

[SparkleforSmallville]

And he didn't call Bart saying he found Clark and for him to come help free Chloe why?

He's Oliver Queen/Green Arrow, probably didn't think he needed help to rescue Chloe:)
He's got a pretty big Ego:lol:

[ginnyfan]

I think there are two kinds of Smallville Premieres: Those that are so bad a** that they stand alone in their awesomeness. And those that wrap up the plot from last season and shoot it into the next season with great momentum. So Odyssey isn't a stand alone in it's awesomeness premiere but it is certainly a great start to the season. I'm very excited about Season 8 when before I was... feeling weird about it.

I don't read the spoilers but... there's been lots of Clois celebrating... so I've been... looking forward to seeing what it's all about and if I'll like it. Mainly though I've been apprehensive about coming off of Arctic and into Odyssey with no Lex Luthor.

They did a great job and it reminded me of Lois and Clark when Lex Luthor disappeared. I liked the rivalry between... Lex's right hand man and Tess. I'm not sure yet how I feel about Tess but the actress did a great job and I'm curious about Tess' history with Lex.

The pacing of the episode was so much fun. I thought the opening scenes were kind of clunky and boring looking but after that the episode was a feast for the eyes. It was fun to see wet Clark without powers at the Russian work camp. Because of IKE - the storm - I couldn't tape the episode and could only watch it once so... some of the facts may not be straight. My sister said that seeing Clark in the camp was like something out of a graphic novel... and I agree. Visually it was really fun.

Lois looks gorgeous this season. Her hair, her eyes, her skin. I never tire of her campy undercover costumes. LOL! It was hot when she cocked the gun in the middle of her banter with Clark. I see now why my fellow Cloisers have been so excited. Yay! The Lois/Clark scenes were crackling and fun. Clark smiled so much. He was funny and mischievous.

I thought seeing Chloe in 33.1 would make my toes curl but... because they were trying to fool her into thinking she was held by the government... whew! It wasn't bad at all. I thought of Ryan when they had her hooked up to the machines and were testing her. I don't know how I feel about her Brainiac powers but she's lovely as ever and I loved her haircut.

The Chlark hug was yummy. I guess she couldn't heal Clark because he's not human. It's not uncommon for meteor powers not to work on Clark. Maybe he was without power and still alien. Hmm...

I was happy to see MM again.

When Lois gave Clark the DP application in Arctic I thought it was lame. But I really enjoyed Clark's introduction to the Daily Planet. I loved how...unhappy Lois was about it. LOL!

There were a lot of things in the episode that didn't make sense... (commanding the Green Arrow to find Lex when the mind control would be very short lived) there were a lot of things I didn't like... (Clark dying... again...) but I had fun and it was wonderfully fast paced.

I enjoyed the Clois scenes, Clark/Oliver scenes - especially the fight, Chloe/Jimmy scene, seeing the proto Justice League in action - especially the Isis scene... uh...

Yeah I'm excited for the rest of the Season.

10/10 because it was FUN!

[pjack]

Okie dokie!
I liked the S8 premiere. I thought it was pretty good.
I was GREATLY disappointed in how 7 ended with Artic and since that's what Al and Miles left us long time supporters and viewers with, then I'm glad they are going as the EP's.

Things I liked about this eppy was
The new feel it has too it. It does give a bit of a refresher to the sad, moping always hung up over Lana crap that went on way TOO long. Lana should have stayed dead in Reckoning.
IMO this season should have been Season 6, that way we would truly get to see MR shine as a true villian and I HATE Al and Miles for dragging that Lana crap so long to the point MR runs out of contract time and refuses to participate anymore. If they started this years ago, it would have been AWESOME.

I loved the JLA scenes, MM is always cool although they stopped showing the Oreo trails he's known for. lol
One thing I hate is Clark having the ability to have his power stripped. It's not a magic trick, a gift or meteor power. It's his freaking physiology that ALL Kyptonians have regardless as long as they are under a Yellow sun.
Now what I can believe is that ther Orb drained him from the Sun's Solar radiation to a point that he would have to have a massive overdose to re-energize his body.
So the scene with MM taking him straight into the sun was actually the only way they could explain how he got his powers back and that is something similar to things in the comic's. Pretty cool effect.
All the one's that say why didn't Chloe's healing work?? Ummm, think about that for a second. First Clark is NOT human regardless if he is weakened to the point he can't use his powers due to lack of Solar radiation. 2nd, she is a meteor/kryptonite freak which is where she got her powers from. How could a kryponite infected person heal a Kryptonian in a system under the Yellow sun? So it makes SENSE it wouldn't work. I hope the power is gone altogether because it was ridiculous anyway.
Her having a super brain is better because from early Smallville she always had the knack to hack things from computers to cell phones. So when brainiac attacked her it had the opposite effect because she was already a meteor freak. That's why he said "What the hell are you?" and it drained some of his power which apparently she received. I don't think she is Brainiac #4 but just has his super computing abilities now.
So this new power makes SENSE and has better uses for her character as she was already.

MM losing his power is no doubt temporary. As someone already noted, that will happen if he goes into the direct son and he is afraid of fire. So this is believable according to the comics.

Yes there were many plot holes and things that should have been explained or at least mentioned like Kara. Like we need to find out what happened to her, would have been good for me and then save it for a later eppy.

I like the more upbeat, happier Clark and that he was trying to be comical. So tired of the I caused all of this crap and the Clana worthless screen time.
I did notice the music score was not as inconspicuous as it used to be and more noticeable in this one.
They also played the "Superman" like music in several scenes. Ok we get it. But don't over do it because I liked when they played it but then they used it too many times and took away for the effect.
Yes it moved along a little quick but I found my self thinking when watching it that it seemed longer than 42 min because I was drawn into it.
The last scene IMO should have been the JLA talking and the DP scene before that. Because when Clark was walking off and the Superman-like score playing, it would have been cool to see him super speed off around the corner there and then closing credits.
Why play that type of music and then go the the DP next??? Bad placement.

Last thing. I see no mention of him flying and they said he would in S8. That will royally tick me off if he doesn't or it's saved for the series finally!! We've waited long enough.
In all this premiere was pretty good and excited about the rest of the season.

[Jlvsclrk]

I loved it. Everything about Clark was great, although more screen time would always be welcome. I really enjoyed that he did not use his super-powers once in the episode, other than to pop the football. Plot holes didn't bother me at all. I would have hated to slow down the break neck pace of the rescue sequences with some fairly boring explanations that aren't really necessary. For me, the most interesting hole was at the end of the story: what happened to Regan? Yes, he's disappeared but is he dead? Did Tess get all the info he was hoarding? In other words, does SHE know about the Traveller, and the secret identities of BC and Aquaman. I'm hoping this hole was deliberate and will be covered in later episodes: that would explain why we didn't see more of the wrap up of the Monthan lab.

I'll be interested as they fill in Tess's back story in the season to come. I didn't see her as a Lex wanna-be at all. I saw her as someone who is strong enough to keep LC running for the most part but who will never pose a threat to Lex himself for his inevitable return. Because you have to know that Lex would never designate a great successor. His ego wouldn't stand it.

Only negative was Jimmy: I've never cared for the character in any medium: TV, movies, comics. He bores me to tears. As for Chimmy, I think that he knows he's not good enough for Chloe: she know it too and welcomes the turnabout from her non-relationship with Clark. In giving that up, she's swung too far and is settling for something that feels safe but strikes me as deeply unfulfilling.

Yay, no Lana, other than to say goodbye. And finally acknowledging he has to leave Jonathan's farm legacy behind - sad but neccesary. I hated that its implied that he feels he has to leave Martha behind too though - she's only in Washington, Clark!

[Imzadia]

I thought that it was EXCELLENT!! Because I absolutely, completely, LOVED IT, well except for the part about MM being stripped of his powers. I know I may seem too Easy, but I can't say enough how much I totally enjoyed "Odyssey".

I've said it in other threads, but it belonged here first. I was just too overwhelmed to get online and talk about it at the time! I'd been so hyped for this premiere, when I watched it and was most satisfied, I felt worn out after watching it two more times. I couldn't even stay up and visit with and talk to you guys the night of the premiere. First time that's ever happened. The &%#@#%&!!! CW tortured me all summer with the Dry Spell of Info. or Promotion for Smallville, then bombarded me/US with "stuff" all at once just before THE night.

I Loved, Loved, Loved it! "Odessey" Felt 'different', with Clark having a New Attitude. IMO, he seemed more powerful, determined, confident, and self-aware Without his powers/Abilities than he ever did With them, (other than in "Apocalypse"). I certainly hope that he continues that way. It was fun to see a part of the JL in action again, but honestly, to ME, it didn't seem like a JL story.

I don't know What to think about Chloe's evolving abilities. I only hope that she's able to control them and come to terms, peacably accepting them. However, according to some Spoilers for an upcoming episode, she'll have a bit of trouble first. I still believe Chloe'll come out a winner.

I was Starved for some New Smallville, so the story didn't seem crammed to me the way some others complained about it. They did a very good job of hiding the climactic event that left me shaken, though. I was completely unprepared for Ollie shooting Clark through the heart and nearly killing him. I was stunned, then grief-stricken for a short while. It was as emotionally powerful for me as the first time Clark died. I didn't quite understand the 'healing process', but I don't want to even discuss my questions. I won't 'touch' it, because I was so Pleased overall.

Of course, I LOVED the Clark/Lois bantering. They DO have Great Chemistry together, IMO, and they're actually Exciting to watch. It'll be a lot of fun to watch where they're taking this partnership/couple this season. I don't think it was rushed at all. Although, I wish they'd made Clark, or even Lois' employment at the DP a bit more realistic. But I can live with it. Each episode only lasts 40 mins. afterall. If they didn't provide an explanation for the possibilities during the last 4 years, it too late now... maybe.

As for the rest of it, and I've read a sampling of the hodge-podge of Extremes in opinion about "Odyssey", I choose Not to Overanalyze the small inconsistencies in the story. I've learned that, For Me, it sucks all the fun out of enjoying the series. ...And I watch Smallville for the FUN of it all, and I plan to keep on watching it, taking whatever seems a bit ridiculous, with a grain of salt.

[kiariclois]

:lol: Madelyn. I enjoyed reading your review. Excellent post! :D

[ColdPlay3r]

odyssey? review?

well 4 me it was a bit meh meh, all this new stuff n twists

but wat it did show was promise 4 tha rest off season

[kiariclois]

Okie... Review time!!

The good:

Opening Credit: I loved it! I think the clips were all well-chosen, and I really LOVED the additional casts; especially Justin Hartley. I like the two new casts as well, but seeing them in the opening credit somehow pisses me off because they're so new in the show and yet, like Laura, they get to be in the opening credit. It took Erica a year after she joined in the cast to be in the opening credit. Just a bit of my ranting there, but all in all, I LOVED the opening credit.

Clark: Our leading man seems to show a lot of maturity in that one episode. I loved seeing wet Clark and the whole scene in Russia actually reminded me of Tom in The Fog. Not only the wild look, but I think he wore similar clothes and not to mention, when he drove the truck too (he did drive a truck in The Fog), and yes of course. He had scene in The Fog where he's wet. :P Also, the scenes in Russia really reminded me of Christopher Reeve's Superman when he was being punched after he lost all his superpower. This is the second time he's being brought back to life, isn't it? and both times he's being stripped off his power. It's pretty sad to think that Superman is useless without his power. The visions he saw when MM took him flying towards the sun was at first disgust me because, I thought he would go goo goo gaa gaa over Lana again, and feeling the guilt because of his father's death again, but afterwards, when he conveyed his thoughts to MM about letting all those thing go so he could find a new life was a great relief. I especially love his speech about "being two separate people", and I think the dual identities somehow slowly erupting his mind. I also loved the Superman music as background music when he put on his red jacket. PERFECT!

Lois: Her character development over the last four seasons really pleased me, but in this season premiere, I gotta say, the writers outdid themselves. I love her in disguise, and I'm so glad that she hid the pendrive inside her bra, instead of keeping it inside her pocket. I love her first encounter with Tess, and I can't wait for more Lois/Tess in the show. We've seen her determination to expose Lex, and I think this year, we'll see her doing the same for Tess. I just have to say this again (been saying it over and over)... Erica in the darker hair looks soooo beyond beautiful. ;) I'm also quite pleased with the wardrobe department for the episode.

Lois and Clark: I love every Clois scenes in the episode. I'm so glad that the chemistry between Tom and Erica seems to develop more and more over the year. Clark and Lois's reunion in Montana was absolutely well-written; I love the brief smile Lois had when she first saw Clark in the hallway, and of course I love the fact that Clark remembered Lois's voice. :P I LOOOVVE their banter, and it seems like it's Clark who started the banter; first when they're in Montana and at the DP when he squeaked the chair just to riled up Lois's temper. Clark was sooo funny in the ending scene. No doubt, this bantering game is just the beginning of Lois and Clark's new adventure. ;) and one more thing; Clark's remark to Lois about not pointing the gun at him, I don't know why Clark had to say that. Is it (a) because he's afraid that Lois accidentally pulled on the trigger, or (b) because he just wanna start a banter with Lois again.

Clark and Oliver: Justin Hartley really shone in this episode. I love seeing him with the Justice League member, especially when he made his funny remark about AC. Oliver spoke Russian, eh? :lol: I really found it interesting that he used the name Boy (is it?) Connor since in the comic Connor is the name of his son. ;) I love how Justin "rescue" Clark; seriously Justin can be a good bad ass person. ;) The fight between these two gorgeous men was kinda sexy and somehow, funny. :P So now, apparently, Oliver knew all about Clark. I guess some things just had to be left offscreenville.

The new TPTB: I guess this is also the good thing in the show. Having PS3 (Peterson, Souders, Slavkins and Swimmer) might just give us the best SV season yet.


The bad:

Chloe's power: I didn't like her having power since the very beginning, and now it seems that she has acquired some braniac-like power. Things need to be explained more, but my feeling tells me that I won't like it. It's too soon to tell...

Unconscious Lois again: This has gotta stop. One minute, she's kicking ass, and the next thing we know, she's being kicked (in this case, electrify).



I guess that's it... Not so many bad stuff here; there are few but those two above are the only ones that kinda piss me off :p

[Chesay]

The opening episode was entertaining but not particularly memorable. Anytime you have to use the "death" of a main character to emotionalize the episode and resort to the "deus ex machina" in the form of Martian Manhunter to save him, it reeks of desperation. To be desperate in the first episode of the season indicates a lack of confidence in what you have to work with and that is not promising.

The loss of Lex and Lionel is a tremendous void to fill. The implausible ending of last season that did not resolve the Lex character before Michael left is difficult to handle now with the Tess Mercer character, who as yet, clearly cannot fill the shoes of such a memorable Lex. Hopefully she will grow into the part which she improved on even within this episode and that is promising. The problem is that all of them are young and seasoned actors such as have been lost could raise the bar for those who need it but they are no longer there to stabilize and inspire.

Justin Hartley is a strong addition to the cast and the Justice League can really help this season out if Bart and Victor are not permanently in the Southern Hemisphere looking for Lex. The trio of Green Arrow, Black Canary, and Clark just doesn't have the impact the entire League brings to the table. The friendship between Oliver and Clark has much greater impact and potential than the doomed one between Lex and Clark. They are able to challenge and inspire one another without the cloud of inevitable friendship failure. That frees the writers to be more innovative and independent in their stories involving these characters. Characters like Lana, Lex, Lois, and Jimmy have limitations imposed on the writers because of the preconceived ideas already established in the comic canon. It is nice when they have the freedom to explore relationships that are not subject to rigid expectations. I think Green Arrow would be an excellent spinoff for Smallville and am hopeful the character will be written for with that as a possiblity.

Allison Mack always gives a stellar performance in Chloe and while I was confused with the loss of her meteor infected ability to heal as it related to Clark, I realize it created more angst for the viewer. Martian Manhunter is not being used well to relegate him to "savior of the hero when no one else can". Chloe's newfound mental abilities are an interesting twist that I did not understand until someone mentioned thinking it might link to her interaction with Brainiac and then it made more sense, although that may not have been the writers' intention. It was a continuity that seemed to explain her abilities better than "they just appeared". This actress, like Erica, can fit into any story with ease and make it worth watching. The animation and enthusiasm Allison brings to her role explains why Chloe has been with the series from the start. She sets a standard that is hard to match.

Lois and Clark, Lois and Oliver, Lois and Chloe, Lois and anyone...Erica Durance has clearly made Lois an integral part of the show. She is unpredictable, enthusiastic, funny, emotional and seems able to rise to the challenge of whatever material she is given. I understand Lana will be returning to re-establish yet another triangle but I wish that were not the case as it will only dampen the dynamic that Clark and Lois have created. Triangles are not that entertaining and they have been worked to death on this show. Instead of following a tired triangle around and around I'd prefer a right angle approach moving outward into new territory. This may very well be the last season of the show and I'd like to see Clark be free of his entanglement with the past and move on toward his destiny. If they had him make a real definitive break with Lana in favor of his destiny, then I could deal with the prospect of Lana's return better. Otherwise it seems a regression. Lex's return would be more greatly appreciated because Michael has a high level of performance and never disappoints if the material is well written. Moving away from Smallville and focusing more on the Daily Planet and Metropolis seems to put Clark more on the road to his ultimate destiny as Superman.

Jimmy Olsen is a favorite of mine and I hope he will be used well. I want him to be devoted to Chloe and not be a skirt-chaser. It has been nice for Chloe to have someone who genuinely loves and appreciates her. I'd like for this character to be given weightier material and not be played solely for comic relief. The actor does a good job with the portrayal and has earned a chance to have a more integral part in the show.

Kara as a character just wasn't a good fit and I think it was best to end it. How did she get in the Phantom Zone? The actress did an excellent job with her and hopefully will have plenty of other opportunities to do other things.


I'm cautiously optimistic about this season.

[Krypton935]

10!! That epsiode was absolutely amazing!!! I had about 8 heart attacks and even on rewatches I am on the edge of my seat! This is definitly an automatic favorite!

[kiariclois]

10!! That epsiode was absolutely amazing!!! I had about 8 heart attacks and even on rewatches I am on the edge of my seat! This is definitly an automatic favorite!

:lol: 8 heart attacks eh? It's amazing that you survive to see the next episode. ;)

[FRANNY044]

Clarck and Lois don't have feeling. Smallville is finished. Good by Smallville. Snif...Snif... I'm very sad.

[disciples of zod]

FINALLY SAW IT! my sis personally liked it, but i thought it could have been better for a season premiere, but still good.

8/10...doesn't compare to "Arrival," IMO, the best season starter so far.

[Xanderman]

Reeeally really lame season premiere. Bad writing/dialogue, repetition, cliches, cheap/convenient plot devices, and all sorts of absurdities. Junk tv has found a new home--and its name is Smallville. Felt like I was watching a really cheesy kids cartoon sometimes. While I wasn't a fan of a lot of what Al & Miles did in their time, their replacements are hardly doing much better (so far anyway). They seem to be stuck in the same old routines. Anyway, worst season premiere by far, and easily one of the dumbest episodes ever to grace (or disgrace) Smallville.

3/10

[Remy72883]

Reeeally really lame season premiere. Bad writing/dialogue, repetition, cliches, cheap/convenient plot devices, and all sorts of absurdities. Junk tv has found a new home--and its name is Smallville. Felt like I was watching a really cheesy kids cartoon sometimes. While I wasn't a fan of a lot of what Al & Miles did in their time, their replacements are hardly doing much better (so far anyway). They seem to be stuck in the same old routines. Anyway, worst season premiere by far, and easily one of the dumbest episodes ever to grace (or disgrace) Smallville.

3/10


As much as i enjoy reading others opinion i must say your's was shocking. It is painfully obvious you are not what you would say a true fan of the show. Yes their have been some downsides in my opinion ony 1 or maybe 2. But you must accpet the good with the bad. If you opinion about the show is so low then why bother watching it. Obviously you are not one for taste.

[Amylia]

I loved this episode it showed promising new things for the 8th season! Clark had some actual character and that was nice! I cant wait for more!:rotfl:

[CK&CK]

As much as i enjoy reading others opinion i must say your's was shocking. It is painfully obvious you are not what you would say a true fan of the show. Yes their have been some downsides in my opinion ony 1 or maybe 2. But you must accpet the good with the bad. If you opinion about the show is so low then why bother watching it. Obviously you are not one for taste.

Not for you or anyone to say who is or who is not a fan. Now....I personally gave it an 8 of 10, but I could totaly see someone giving it a far lower score for things that I perssonally ignored because I liked certain scenes. And NO....a fan doesn't have to accept the good with the bad.

It's probably because of fans like you that the POWERS THAT BE are quite content to lower the production budget knowing that they'll always have a core fan base of certain people who will take whatever they are served.

----- Added 19 Minutes later -----


Only negative was Jimmy: I've never cared for the character in any medium: TV, movies, comics. He bores me to tears. As for Chimmy, I think that he knows he's not good enough for Chloe: she know it too and welcomes the turnabout from her non-relationship with Clark. In giving that up, she's swung too far and is settling for something that feels safe but strikes me as deeply unfulfilling.

I doubt that TPTB will understand the weakness of the Jimmy Olson character....as well as the absurdity of linking to him...one of the Newest and Most exciting female characters to emerge from the Superman mythology in recent years. The best dynamic in my opinion would have been linking her up with the Flash....that would have had a great family dynamic.....but then, just about any pairing would have had better story potential than Chimmy. Erase all the Chlark from all previous seasons....and Chimmy would be an acceptable storyline for many of Chloe's fans......though in my opinion it would still have been the poorest pairing in terms of story telling excitement. But then again, there's a reason why this show continues to lose viewers every season.

[La Donna]

Finally watched it - it's much better when you can speed thru the obnoxious parts.

Good bits:
- Clark more proactive. Clark still a hero without his powers. Ollie saying Clark was kindof useless but he still drove the action forward.
- Aquaman thru the ice. Best use of Acquman to date.
- ISIS is clearly the JL center. They moved in like it's the new clubhouse for Scooby and the gang. Offsets a tiny amount of the bitterness over the SWF of Lois over Chloe at the DP. Not enough to make that throwing Chloe out of the DP acceptable, but takes off some of the edge.
- Chlark BFF have the best relationship on the show. The unfortunate reality is that I know they are destroying that -- but it is nice to be reminded so clearly with the hug and the attempted save.
- I liked Tess finding the FOS crystal and her reverence for Lex. Other than that Tess was "meh".

Bad bits:
Offscreenville-
- Ollie learns Clark is an alien. This was a big deal and it deserved a few minutes of on-screen time on the airplane.
- Clark decides the Daily Planet is his best "laying low" location. This rationale needs to be explained. The jump to annoying Lois in the basement -- they really made it look like a lightswitch. Seriously, I understand the Cloisers wanted the Clark and Lois banter, but the plot suffered so they could praise each other's abilities in Montana. All of the Daily Planet should have been left to the next episode. I think a far better ending would have been Clark looking at the Daily Planet in the building and telling the JL that he thinks he's got an idea of how he could plug into finding Lex and stay in the middle of things in Metropolis --- cue the DP spinning globe & superman music, end credits. A far better setup than the cutesy Clois ending. Is the Clois romance more important than his entrance into DP? Apparently so. What a mistake.

It's true because we said so-
- Chloe loves Jimmy. That's the message because they said so. Most don't see it, me included, but the show thinks they've made their point.

Gratuitous Lois
- A French Maid's costume? Really? This was really lame. And the "Oui Oui?". Who would say that? Who would get a French Maid's costume from the Halloween Shop for an undercover disguise. The Luthor mansion never had people dressed like that. They need Lois to earn people's respect. Stop having her "flirt up keys" and play plastic dressup. Her entrance credits are still the swimsuit scene and pleathor kick box move. Knock it off.
- Lois at the Black Creek facility -- clunky from a story perspective. If she was going to go there, we needed one more scene showing her at her computer getting the data and going "bingo!". 30 seconds. tops. Instead, she's there being bombastic. Again.


Show direction:
- Turning Chloe literally into Chloogle and sending her character in a completely new direction in order to clear the way for the ICONIC! Lois and Clark at the DP. Still hate it, still looks clunky and obvious. Lois still not worthy of being Clark's Scooby partner.
- It's a reboot. I know TPTB don't like the term, but the only reminder of Smallville is Lois using that as Clark's nickname. The death of Smallville occurred in the "death" of Clark in Montana. The "goodbye" video to Lana, Martha and Jonathon. Chloe is now a new character. The action is in Metropolis. They are all moved on (not moving on ... moved on) from Smallville.

I wanted Clark to be more mature. I wanted to watch -- instead it all happened in offscreenville and with a lightswitch or three.

Bottom line:

As expected, they moved the show to "Metropolis" and the name of the series is seriously misleading. Some good action moments and a couple of nice scenes but the pacing, the contrivances, and the editing overshadowed the episode. This tendency to have a patchwork quilt of scenes that are randomly thrown together has been increasing over the years. It presumes more fan patience than is reasonable to expect. This is firmly a DVR-at-best show.

It's sort of funny, because when I used to be a poster at TWOP, it was you and Fallen One that I felt set the tone for the threads. While many agreed with you there, those of us who didn't at least had Fallen One who would post and explain our views. When I came here I was very happy with the mix of opinions (though the threads here that I go to are probably more pro-Clois) instead of it mostly being skewed to one character or one side. What I think is funny is that I believe you and Fallen One still have the ability to set the tone and opinion on this thread. Fallen One usually highlights the things on the show that fans like me also liked, and you highlight the things that you saw as wrong with the show that some other fans agree with. Having you two here and posting I think makes it easier for those of us who are interested in people's opinions and theories but don't post all the time. You both do an excellent job of explaining people's general opinions.:)

That being said (and I meant it one hundred percent as a compliment which I'm pointing out because I got in trouble on the TWOP thread for apparently trying to be diplomatic and calm), I quoted your comment above SueB because that's the one I disagree with and would like to comment on. Which I guess actually is explained by my feelings of your/Fallen One's posts.

I loved the Chlark hug and mini reunion too, but I thought a huge thing that distracted us from the happy loving reunion was Chloe's complete unconcern for her cousin having been knocked out. I was sorta shocked that she didn't seem to care at all. It's sort of the opposite of what some of the anti-Cloisers see happening in past episodes ( their view of Lois and Clark flirting over Chloe's grave). It just took me out of the awesome reunion because I kept waiting for Chloe to care what happens with Lois.

I think the show has given us plenty of scenes that show Chloe loves Jimmy. I don't think they have an epic love story, but we've seen enough that she loves him. While a lot of fans hate that romance, I don't think it's out of the blue or at odds with the show. I think they are kind of cute together, but I think they need to step it up if they want people to be ok with their union. Bart, Oliver, Cyborg, heck, even Lex, would have been a more interesting pairing with Chloe, but they went with Jimmy. I'm pretty sure people who are still pro-Chlark will probably never be happy with Chimmy no matter how they write it.

I don't think they needed to include an extra scene showing Lois figuring out Chloe was being held in Montana. She obviously got the info from the zip drive she stole at the beginning. The maid's outfit was supposed to be more of a mix between comedy laugh, nod to Iconic Lois always dressing up to go undercover (a lot of times in very little clothes), and the show trying to show off Lois's body (as they do with almost every other character).

I don't think Chloe's new power has anything to do with setting the path for Clois or their working partnership. Chloe has a new and different plot arc because they didn't want her at the DP anymore, and while that could be viewed as kicking her out so that Lois could be the only female reporter at the DP, it still doesn't change the fact that Chloe needs an arc, and a relevant arc at that. I think they've given her a lot of interesting arc's this year that will be relevant to the show.

I liked her healing power for the most part, because I thought it was a beautiful example of what I loved about Chloe (big time caring and really wanting to help people, coupled with her specialness and heroism that works great with Clark's abilities). But I agree that it didn't really fit into this season because if she can just heal everyone without permanently dying, then what's there to be worried about this season with anyone? I am interested to see if they are going to have it be that she can't heal Clark but can heal others still, or whether there is something wrong with the the healing power altogether. I hope the explanation they give for her new Brainiac type of power will have to do with not only what her healing powers did to Brainiac, but also that it had something to do with Chloe's innate ability to understand computers/etc, and therefore Brainiac's power simply enhanced what she already had the ability to do . That would at least add some rationale as to why Chloe could hack into anything in the universe.

About this episode being a re-boot and whether that is good or bad, I will happily say it is PERFECT AND NECESSARY (in my opinion of the show). What Al and Miles did was create this beautiful show that we all enjoyed. But then, they started investing less and less time and brain power into the show, and yet made their executive power become stronger and stronger. That made it where the show had a lot of other people working on the day to day stuff, trying to make each episode as good as could be expected, and yet the plots, tone, and execution of the seasons were up to Al and Miles and they're vision, which became something opposed to what this show started out as. Season seven is considered by most to be the worst season, and there's a reason for that. It's not because Al and Miles are bad people, or crappy writers, or jerks who don't care about the fans. The real reason is that their limited vision and effort became something that took away from the show instead of adding to the show. And so when we got PS3 this year, it changed everything. People who had stopped watching the show after season three or four started to say, "hmm, I wonder if the show will be worth watching again, maybe I'll give it a chance for an episode or two", other people who stuck with the show even through the "it's not moldy cheese, I swear. It's really some fancy cheese from France" years of the show were feeling like "maybe I have a reason for being hopeful again this year, perhaps the show will actually get better", and the others who loved every season equally will feel like......... wait, I don't know anybody like that so I can't really imagine what they would be thinking. Probably something along the lines of "Smallville is, was, and will always be a great show, so of course I'm excited about this year because Al and Miles have guided these new guys and so they will carry on their vision". Either way, most are excited or at least interested in seeing what PS3 has to offer us in terms of plots, tone, and execution, because most of us feel there is a very strong chance that it will be better than last season. And so what could they do to move the show forward in a positive direction? Re-boot. It was the only answer, and all I have to say about that is "Thank you God, Thank you Jesus, Thank you PS3, Thank you network and viewers for sticking it out and keeping the show on the air, Thank you Al and Miles for leaving, Thank you me for sticking around to see what happens, and finally, Thank you Smallville actors for giving us the good stuff with your acting in this episode, because PS3 gave you the goods and you stepped up with a "now we're talking" attitude".

Mmmm, this is a long post. I didn't even talk about everything of interest in the episode. I hope I didn't make any one angry or bored, and I hope I don't get in trouble by the mods because of not being venomous enough which is what happened on TWOP ( I know I should let it go but that place is like a bad taste in my mouth, no matter what else I eat I can't get the taste out of my mouth :\). If only I had Tom Welling around to help distract me and give me other things to focus on..... If you're reading this Tom than know that should you come distract me from my frustration, it would count as charity work and you just may get a tax right off for your time ;).

[Hopefulsuicide]

Reeeally really lame season premiere. Bad writing/dialogue, repetition, cliches, cheap/convenient plot devices, and all sorts of absurdities. Junk tv has found a new home--and its name is Smallville. Felt like I was watching a really cheesy kids cartoon sometimes. While I wasn't a fan of a lot of what Al & Miles did in their time, their replacements are hardly doing much better (so far anyway). They seem to be stuck in the same old routines. Anyway, worst season premiere by far, and easily one of the dumbest episodes ever to grace (or disgrace) Smallville.

3/10

tbh, i feel your post is the truth that i am trying so hard not to accept. i mean i dont want to let go of a show i loved for so long. i don't want to give up on it. but Smallville is the kind of show that proves my mum's bad opinion of TV

i don't watch bad TV. i watch intellegent shows that make me think, challange my morals or give me a huge connection with the characters i am watching. Smallville WAS a good show... season 1 was so wonderfully well written, and season 2 and 3 developed interesting and challenging plots

it's become abundantly clear that all Smallville is capable of now is competing with bad soaps. it has the same sort of predictable dialogue, the same sloppy storylines where logic is ignored in favour of shocks and 'coolness'.

i know i'm probably going to get a lot of hassle for posting this, i just wanted to let people know that Xanderman is not the only one who feels this way. as much as i want to carry on loving and respecting Smallville, i'm afraid it is now more a guilty pleasure than a show i'm proud to be a fan of.

[clanilan]

Awesome! Loved it 10/10 been waiting so long for it too :D

[trh1976]

I liked the episode. I think it was worth a 9. I found some things a little rushed. I wish they would have made this a 2 hour premiere. What I am concerned with is the next episode. Smallville has a tendency to have a quality premiere and then give us crap for story for at least 2-3 episodes before something fun develops.

-What I liked
* Its about F'n time Clark leaves Smallville. I
* Finally Clark makes it to the Daily Planet.
* JL- Nothing but sweetness here

-What I disliked

*It sucks that the Martian Manhunter had to sacrifice his powers to save clark (how many times can he loose his powers).:eek:

*Get rid of random cheesy characters who cant act(i.e idiot russian, half-brained LuthorCorp employee.)

-What I hope
Where are the glasses for CK??????

Saying that, I dont know about what episode 2 entails, but it needs to carry the program. Next week will be a tough week, and I think we as fans need to get the word out that they need to watch. Funny feeling, but the CW doesnt seem to concerned with Smallville. It seems focused on 90210 (the return of an already dead show) and the popular Gossip Girl.

[dcmarriott]

I have been waiting for two years for Clark to give his "it's time to leave the farm" speech, and for Clark to finally start working for the Daily Planet. That said, I would have liked a better explanation for how he was able to secure the job. As Craig Byrne points out in his column about things he would like to see in Season 8, the Daily Planet is supposed to be a world-class newspaper. Presumably, it would have its pick of the best graduates from schools of journalism across the country, so why are they hiring a couple of college drop-outs like Clark and Lois? Even a quick line about Perry White owing Clark a favor would have helped. Hopefully, as the season progresses, the writers will fill in some of these plot hotels.

[Kevin24]

Reeeally really lame season premiere. Bad writing/dialogue, repetition, cliches, cheap/convenient plot devices, and all sorts of absurdities. Junk tv has found a new home--and its name is Smallville. Felt like I was watching a really cheesy kids cartoon sometimes. While I wasn't a fan of a lot of what Al & Miles did in their time, their replacements are hardly doing much better (so far anyway). They seem to be stuck in the same old routines. Anyway, worst season premiere by far, and easily one of the dumbest episodes ever to grace (or disgrace) Smallville.

3/10

We got a Smallville hater in the house!!!:rotfl:

[TheLightOfKrypton]

While this was a great episode, it wasn't the best and I only say this because of a few plotholes which have already been pointed. I do not think that it was the most impactful of season premieres, but I certainly thought it was one of the best directed and acted episodes in quite a while. It flowed together very nicely and utilized continuity very well. I think that this is because PS3 have given it a breath of fresh air and have breathed new life into it. The title certainly described how the episode flowed, it was an Odyssey for all involved, but the biggest odyssey has yet to be finished and that is Clark's and to a certain point, Lex's. I'm glad MM showed up, as well as the Justice League. Dinah and Arthur seem to have both evolved into great members as Ollie has developed his leadership abilities quite well. Clark was selfless for the first time in a long time. Chloe is going into an interesting new territory as is Lois. I look forward to seeing their journeys. Tess, what a strong character and introduction, it's like we've known her forever. I sense great things for her. Here's to a great new season.

[KneelbeforeZod89]

Lots of Justice League, I of course loved that.

Hmm, MM's powers are gone.

Tess has the crystal that made the Fortress. I think I know where that could go.


I liked how they didnt just completely destroy the mythology because oliver's team said they hoped that MM would someday return so obviously he gets his powers back. and for awhile i was wondering what would actually happen to the fortress because clark still needs it for continuity purposes. so overall i was happy with this episode. good points.^^

[iluvSmallvilleandi'm24]

loved it. Had like a big cheesy grin on my face for the whole time through. I don't like/don't care (haven't made my mind up yet) the Chloe-Jimmy relationship. Guess they need it to explain why Chloe chooses to go a certain way... btw I think Chloe might become the JL's supercomputer? (Not strong on JL mythology, but they do have a supercomputer right?)

The russian guy was funny...Johnny Apples. ROFL

MM was great - hope we see more of him.

Bring on Ep 2 i say.

[ShInE4YoU]

:rotfl:
loved it. Had like a big cheesy grin on my face for the whole time through. I don't like/don't care (haven't made my mind up yet) the Chloe-Jimmy relationship. Guess they need it to explain why Chloe chooses to go a certain way... btw I think Chloe might become the JL's supercomputer? (Not strong on JL mythology, but they do have a supercomputer right?)

The russian guy was funny...Johnny Apples. ROFL

MM was great - hope we see more of him.

Bring on Ep 2 i say.


hahahahahaha I love your screen name. It's awsome!!!!!Can't wait till Thursday!!!

[Xanderman]

tbh, i feel your post is the truth that i am trying so hard not to accept.Lol don't fight it--embrace it. Embrace the hate, Becky. Like I did.:lol: j/k I think it was Morpheus who said "free your mind"...and you know something, he was right. lol "I'm trying to free your mind. But I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it." (insert "whoa" response here) lol


it's become abundantly clear that all Smallville is capable of now is competing with bad soaps. it has the same sort of predictable dialogue, the same sloppy storylines where logic is ignored in favour of shocks and 'coolness'.It especially had a soapy feeling to me during that private jet scene between Clark and Oliver where they basically just looked like they were trying to "out-pretty" each other...lol


i know i'm probably going to get a lot of hassle for posting this, i just wanted to let people know that Xanderman is not the only one who feels this way. as much as i want to carry on loving and respecting Smallville, i'm afraid it is now more a guilty pleasure than a show i'm proud to be a fan of.Thanks. Yeah Smallville's definitely just a guilty pleasure for me too, it's gotten way too silly/over the top for it to be anything else. It's basically a cartoon now.


We got a Smallville hater in the house!!!:rotfl:Lol, well I hated this ep, that much is true. But I'm sure there will be better episodes despite this unbelievably terrible start to the first/last/only AlMiles-less season. Looks like those two might have abandoned ship at exactly the right time. Time will tell...

Thought I'd remind my fellow Smallville peeps that this thread is titled "Loved it? Hated it? What did you think of Odyssey?" That sort of means it's ok for people to hate it. That doesn't mean they hate the entire series. (It only strongly implies it....lol just kidding)

[Hopefulsuicide]

Lol don't fight it--embrace it. Embrace the hate, Becky. Like I did.:lol: j/k I think it was Morpheus who said "free your mind"...and you know something, he was right. lol "I'm trying to free your mind. But I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it." (insert "whoa" response here) lol


well as seifer said, 'ignorance is bliss' so i understand why so many just lay down and take it... but i think odyssey kinda gave me no other option than to take the red pill :lol:

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It especially had a soapy feeling to me during that private jet scene between Clark and Oliver where they basically just looked like they were trying to "out-pretty" each other...lol



well JH was definately winning! :p

it's weird cause he is a soap actor so i kind of expect his acting to hold a little of that, but most of the time i think he is the better actor of the two.

[FlashInSV]

Loved the JL scenes, Clark entering adulthood FINALLY!, the Clois banter of course (always brings a smile to my face), Chloe's new power seems promising-although I am very sad they made her healing powers go away.

Disliked: Cliche characters (anybody said Russian smuggler?) and some tiny plotholes, Lana's memory coming up when he was 'dying' (wtf?! it came before his father!), J'onn J'onnz losing his abilities (how long before he gets them back, I wonder?), Jimmy backing out on his proposal (grab a pair, dude! uh..Can I even say that in a forum? lol Cut the insecurities and all!)

[smallvillequeenb]

Odyssey seemed like just another episode of Smallville Season 7's last few episodes. The writers continued the storyline well, but boy I think Cassidy Freeman as Michael Rosemblum's villain replacement is a bad choice. She does not ooze the same charisma and subtlety Rosemblum has. She seems like another one of Lex's croonies, but doesn't have the star power Rosemblum has. I mean, they should've gotten someone like Lucy Liu or Heather Locklear - someone who is a vixen.

I loved Justin Hartley as the Green Arrow. The Justice League should be a big part of Smallville now since Clark is moving on to Metropolis. Would love to see more of the Justice League and even a Justice League spinoff with Isis. Kristin Kreuk should come back as Isis whom she is a dead ringer for (see the 1970s Isis on YouTube, and you'd think the actress playing Isis is Kristin Kreuk's twin.) Then Kristin Kreuk should have a spinoff series as Isis, and Clark would be wondering why is he so attracted to Isis. Is it because she reminds him of Lana only she has powers.

Even though Clark is moving onto the Daily Planet, I can't help feeling an emptiness and a longing for the good ol' days of Smallville - the original Big 3 is sorely missed. Lex and Lana as not being a part of Clark's life seems extremely sad, especially since they've been there for the last 7 years.

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I have been waiting for two years for Clark to give his "it's time to leave the farm" speech, and for Clark to finally start working for the Daily Planet. That said, I would have liked a better explanation for how he was able to secure the job. As Craig Byrne points out in his column about things he would like to see in Season 8, the Daily Planet is supposed to be a world-class newspaper. Presumably, it would have its pick of the best graduates from schools of journalism across the country, so why are they hiring a couple of college drop-outs like Clark and Lois? Even a quick line about Perry White owing Clark a favor would have helped. Hopefully, as the season progresses, the writers will fill in some of these plot hotels.


Glad you pointed that out because that stood out and continues to stand out like a great big sore thumb. It brings insult to the real world of journalism - they should at least start as interns or field reporters, not have a desk right away...and no supervision? Maybe the Daily Planet is like the New York Times, who hired that young reporter who made up stories and reported them as news? Boy was that disgraceful for a world-renown newspaper.

[Smallville6]

We got a Smallville hater in the house!!!:rotfl:

:rotfl:

[Sweetie]

Perfect 10!!!I loved the new improuved CK :)

[MsCali4Eva]

I give Odyessy (did I spell that right?) a 5 because I'm 50/50 on my feelings - what I liked or I didn't like with the events that occured within the episode. It's just too early right now for me to see how the rest of the season is going to pan out. I'm trying my best not to carry "baggage" and ill feelings from the previous 7 seasons, since there are new writers and missing original cast members. On a happier note, the actors/actresses did a fantastic job with their scripts - it's not their fault if the material just didn't add up. And I'm seeing a few sprinkles of Superman but not enough (I do equate Superman to Tom though :p). So, because I'm a die-hard Superman fan (no matter what form or medium), all I can do is sit back, inhale the sprinkles, and enjoy the ride! ;)

Can't wait for the next episode in a couple of days!

[thefilmguy22384]

i cant see smallville staying very watchable for much longer. there is a big gaping hole in the spot of lex luthor and in his place they put this chick who is trying very hard to do her best michael rosenbaum impression but doesnt even come close. unfortunately for the smallville team rosenbaum has too deeply solidified himself in the show and in the eyes of the fans for it to continue on too long with out him. i was already missing his presence and this is only the first episode of the season. the new villainous just does not do it for me at all. i hate how oliver even made that line that she is worse then lex. come on give me a break. lex is supposed to be the ultimate villain not who ever the hell this girl is. its too late in the game to throw her in and like i said she i just trying too hard to be like lex. they better hope that they can get rosenbaum to make some guest appearences or this show is quickly going to start losing a big part of its appeal. this show was almost about lex luthors transformation into the villain as much as it was about clark kents transformation into superman. they are mirror images of eachother both being products of their parents. one goes to the light and the other to darkness. i think its crucial that he returns.

the other big problem i had was i dont know how i feel about the whole control over clark thing being replaced with him just simply having his powers taken away. in a certain context it could work but not after the big deal they made last season that who ever gets possession of that device can take control of clark. it was just pumped up too much to not deliver that in some way. also the way that he just quickly explained it like oh yeah it instead just took my powers. if your gonna switch that around you should build it up a little better then that. its kind of sloppy writing. but in recent years thats nothing new in smallville i guess. also they solved the problem of his powers being taken away way too easily. i mean all that build up last season for something that can be solved that simply. its one thing to change around the whole control over clark to just him simply losing his powers thing but to have the dilema solved just liked that. again a little sloppy.

also whats up with lois being james bond? like she could really inflitrate that base where chloe was? true the show stretches realism extremely thin alot of the time but thats just stupid. especially considering that pretty much everyone who works for lex knows who she is now. cant lois just be the spunky chick with an attitude that she is in the comics? why do they have to turn her into rambo? i could argue the same thing with jimmy in that bond wanna be episode too. in the comics he was supposed to just be a geek with a good heart. not the take action throw punches type.

i am glad to see though that clark is finally getting off his ass and doing something. for the last 2 years he hasnt really done anything except drop out of college and sit around on his farm pining over lana. i mean yeah he saved the world here and there but in terms of him getting closer to his destiny not really alot of progress there for a while. he was basically just a loser for the passed couple of seasons. so im glad he is finally getting off the farm and doing something.

im not sure how much promise i see in this season. with out lex i really dont know how long this can go. i know one thing for sure, unless they can get rosenbaum back as at least a regular guest star then this show wont survive passed this year. from what im seeing though this looks like its going to be its final season anyways. i just hope the show doesnt wither away and die a slow death. i hope they end with a bang and to do that they need lex back at least to close things up.

[superman2001]

i thought this was a great episode, i really did like the scene where Clark, saved Chloe from that guy without his powers, and i also like the scene where Martian Manhunter saved Clark, and it was great to see the Justice League again, i wonder what happened to lex, i can't wait to find out, this is going to be a great season.

[CompuDoc]

For a season premier, this was not as good as I have come to expect, it just seems like this should have blown me away, and frankly, it didn't.

There were some good scenes, there were some scenes that could have been cut, I thought the way that they were able to instantly catch the justice league by getting the cell numbers was a little weak, I thought it too convenient that Ollie came to himself immediately after he shoots Clark through the heart. The idea that they tracked Ollie to the facility they were holding Chloe in and even captured him even though he was prepared for them as much as they were prepared for him make Ollie look like he is losing his Green Arrow touch. But more than that why did they send Ollie after Clark? I mean they could take the super powered ones, and apparently had no idea that Lois or Clark had any powers, or if they know what Clark should have been able to do, then it would have been pointless to send Ollie after him. The idea of it just was not plausible.
Then we have Martian Man hunter showing up, sweeping Clark up and flying into the sun, MM would have died, not just lost his powers, and he looked perfectly healthy talking to Clark afterwards. He announces he has no powers now, but they do not show how he leaves, does he have a car? did he bum a ride from Clark? I did enjoy the scene at the Planet when Clark tells Lois he will be there now, and her reaction after he is out of eye/ear shot, the little "whew" that she does says more than all the words that are said. It is as if she is saying "Wow, I get to work across the desk from him everyday, and am gonna love it!" all with one little breath pushed through her pretty lips.

OK, enough of my focusing on how Erica's lips look, I think that Tess has come into the show pretty well, though I would have liked to have seen them ease her in a little more realistically. I mean, if she is taking over as CEO, I would have expected her to have either shown up earlier (we know the previous two CEO's on a first name basis) or to have had a back story of swindling the board that would have to be holding things together in the absence of the LL father and son.

Triplet did the extra leg work to check locations, and for that she should be commended. I would like to see her proof her copy more closely before her next post (to remove some grammatical errors) but she gave a quality review. I do not agree with how happy she was with the episode, but as they say, opinions are like necks, everyone has one. (OK necks is not how the saying goes, but this is a family show remember).

One thing I liked a lot, they left you the distinct impression, perhaps more than an impression, that Lex is alive, and missing. This was crucial for the Superman legend to remain intact. If Clark escaped (without powers) so too then could Lex do the same. I felt like there is a back story here that they are not revealing, or perhaps it is just my refusing to accept that Michael will not be back at all. But I am hoping against hope, that there will be a final finale where we would get to see Michael reprise his role in the Lexcorp building in Metropolis. It would be awsome (if this is the last season) to have a familiar red caped blue clad figure fly up to the 34th floor to see Lex and say something witty to him (like "would you care to step outside?") and close with the confrontation waiting to happen. (yes I would like to see a movie series spin off from the show).

OK, that is my rant, hope I have not exhausted you from reading it.
KEEP LOOKING UP!^†

[Vovkulak]

I thought it was good, but I didn't like him joining the Daily Planet so soon. Now I think they're just becoming Lois and Clark, only with a 'Villian of the Week'.

[KalEltheBoyscout]

Perfect 10!!!I loved the new improuved CK :)

Couldn't agree more. Fantastic episode. Clark is starting to make more progress than he has in along time. It's awkward that now that Clark is going to embrace his destiny more than ever, and people are complaining.:confused:

P.S. You spelled improved wrong!!! :eek:

[SexyLexy25]

This was my first season to start watching Smallville and I have to say Season 8 grabbed me right away! This is also my first post, so bear with me. I just had to let you know that I am truly enjoying this season so far.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

Welcome to the board.

Glad you liked the premiere.

[WellingFan]

Loved it! This will be the best season of the show. It has Season 5 & 7 to beat!

[e-µ-i]

So far my favorite episode of Smallville ever. It just is. I gave it 10 ! :)
S8 woohooo !!!

[myloveahmed]

Loved it!

[Babykins27]

PERFECTION I can't wait for more episodes.
The cast was amazing.
Way to come back from last season!!

[doubtless]

It was really good.

[Bre723]

I rated it an 8, solid episode, but could have been stronger as a season premier.

[blackcelebration]

Very good episode 8/10 from me.

[TheMeanBean]

Was Clark being in Russia a Red Son reference, IIRC he was wearing grey

[super_j_man]

It was okay, but nothing exceptional. Definitely didn't stack up with the other season premieres!