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xrayvision
02-14-2011, 11:18 PM
Are they internal organs? Are they made of liquid or gas?

skully
02-14-2011, 11:25 PM
They are not internal organs. :)

Many versions are made of forms of liquids. Others are not. They are not made of gas.

The specific versions are initally liquid.

[New Pronoun is up]

xrayvision
02-14-2011, 11:32 PM
Is it naturally occuring or artificial?

skully
02-14-2011, 11:39 PM
Most commonly artificial.

xrayvision
02-14-2011, 11:50 PM
When you say the specific versions are initially liquid, do they undergo a change? Do they become solid? By freezing? Can they be solid without freezing? Are they made of water?

Is it edible?

Is it a lasting item or does it get consumed & replaced by a similar item?

skully
02-14-2011, 11:54 PM
Yes. Many versions would initially start out as liquid then solidify, but not by freezing. You normally wouldn't see these as liquid for any length of time (i.e. they solidify fairly quickly). They are normally not made of water, although water could be a component.

Not edible.

It is normally fairly long lasting. The initially liquid versions are certainly meant to be long lasting.

xrayvision
02-15-2011, 12:15 AM
Do we see every main's version at one point or another in the series?

Are the one's you're looking for seen at a common location in Smallville or Metropolis?

Are they kept at home or brought to school, work, or other places?

skully
02-15-2011, 12:16 AM
No, we don't see every mains version. We do see some mains versions.

Of the specific versions, one is seen at a common location in Smallville and the other is seen at a recurring location near Smallville.

They can be kept/taken to in all those places.

Actually, I have a correction. One of the specific versions is owned by a main, not a guest. Sorry. I edited the original answer.

smallville84
02-15-2011, 03:20 PM
Is the main current? MS? M/F Ever a guest? Alive? Bearded? Human? Clark's age?

Is the guest recurring? M/F? Alive? Human? Powers? Incarcerated? Clark's age?

skully
02-15-2011, 03:23 PM
The main who owns one of the specific version is current, MS, F, never guest, non-bearded, human, Clark's age.

The guest who owns the other specific version is SEG (single ep), F, alive, human, no powers, not incarcerated, Clark's age.

smallville84
02-15-2011, 03:40 PM
Is the guest named/credited?

Are the items seen indoors or outdoors?

skully
02-15-2011, 04:02 PM
Yes, the guest is named and credited.

The main's specific version is seen indoors, the guests specific version is seen outdoors.

Actually I have another correction. Earlier I said we see one specific version at a recurring location near Smallville. The item is at that location but we don't see it. We see it later in the epi at a single epi indoors location.

smallville84
02-15-2011, 06:20 PM
Are the specific versions seen before or after Roger Nixon’s death? Morgan Edge's? Alicia’s? Jonathan's? Lionel's? Jimmy’s? Old Lex clone’s?

skully
02-15-2011, 06:59 PM
The specific versions are seen before RN's death and between RN's and ME's deaths.

xrayvision
02-16-2011, 02:19 PM
Is it hair gel or shampoo?

skully
02-16-2011, 02:26 PM
Not hair gel or shampoo.

xrayvision
02-16-2011, 02:29 PM
Lemonade?

skully
02-16-2011, 02:31 PM
Not lemonade. :)

xrayvision
02-16-2011, 02:34 PM
Is this liquid something an item that turns solid by hardening?

What about tar? Or asphalt?

skully
02-16-2011, 02:47 PM
Hardening is not the word I would use. It doesn't harden like concrete.

The item is not made of tar or asphalt.

MrsK
02-16-2011, 03:06 PM
Man, we are so slow over here. I have been asking when the S9 DVD set comes out at the normal outlets for a while now. I think it will be out in early March. Maybe they'll have the Blur T-shirt as part of the release.

Is it the chalk mark Blur symbol? I liked Clark's Matrix look but I didn't really care for the chalky Blur symbol on the shirt. I haven't seen the shirt anywhere else.
It is the chalky symbol. My son claimed the shirt that came with our DVDs and wears it all the time. :)


Recapping:
This is a very common item
We see numerous versions
Two versions have something in common.
All mains own a version of it.
Of the two specific version (with something in common) one is owned by Chloe and the other by a guest.
The guest who owns the other specific version is SEG (single ep), F, alive, human, no powers, not incarcerated, Clark's age.
The guest is named and credited.
They are not made of wood, metal, rubber, glass, stone/mineral, porcelain, paper, plastic, ceramic, clay, fabric, gem, cardboard, or some other organic matter.
It cannot be used as a physical weapon.
This item can be seen in many different sizes. Some versions can be lifted in one hand, others can't. It could be smaller than a mug or bigger than a table. The specific versions are smaller than a hand.
It is functional.
It is not electrical or electronic, and it is usually a single color (so not colorful).
The thing that the two specific versions have in common is not color, material, size, owner, or their destruction.
They are not internal organs.
Many versions are made of forms of liquids. Others are not. They are not made of gas.
The specific versions are initially liquid.
It is most commonly artificial as opposed to naturally occurring.
Many versions would initially start out as liquid then solidify, but not by freezing. You normally wouldn't see these as liquid for any length of time (i.e. they solidify fairly quickly). They are normally not made of water, although water could be a component.
Hardening is not the word I would use. It doesn't harden like concrete.
Not edible.
It is normally fairly long lasting. The initially liquid versions are certainly meant to be long lasting.
We don't see every main's version. We do see some mains' versions.
Of the specific versions, one is seen at a common location in Smallville and the other is at a recurring location near Smallville but not seen there. We see it later in the epi at a single epi indoors location..
They can be kept/taken to home, school, work, or other places.
Chloe's specific version is seen indoors, the guests specific version is seen outdoors.
The specific versions are seen before RN's death and between RN's and ME's deaths.
It is not hair gel, shampoo, or lemonade. It is not made of tar or asphalt

What is it?

Is Chloe's version seen at the Talon? at the Torch?
Is the guest a SV High student?

skully
02-16-2011, 03:24 PM
Chloe's version is not seen at the Talon or the Torch, it is seen at a single epi indoor location. Her version is at a recurring outdoors location in Smallville but not seen there.

Yes, the guest is a SV High student.

xrayvision
02-16-2011, 04:04 PM
So now you have your own little Blur MrsK. :)

What size is the shirt anyway?

To skully:

Is it some sort of auto fluid? Or oil?

skully
02-16-2011, 04:19 PM
Not auto fluid or oil.

xrayvision
02-16-2011, 04:47 PM
Is it used for eating? Drinking? Communicating? Sitting? Performing bodily functions? Performing work or schoolwork? Driving/transportation?

skully
02-16-2011, 04:50 PM
The item is used for communicating.

xrayvision
02-16-2011, 05:58 PM
Would the communication be written/typed or vocal? Manual or electronic?

skully
02-16-2011, 06:06 PM
Typed and vocal. The communication could be either manual or electronic.

xrayvision
02-16-2011, 06:29 PM
Is it toner? Or ink?

skully
02-16-2011, 07:35 PM
The two versions with something in common are made of ink. Other versions can be made of toner, and other stuff. :)

What is it?

smallville84
02-16-2011, 08:44 PM
is the item information. That can be written down or told to someone.

skully
02-16-2011, 08:45 PM
The item is information of a specific type.

smallville84
02-16-2011, 09:03 PM
Is it a phone number?

Chloe writes hers on Sean Kelvin's hand, he later looks at it in an indoor location. In Cool.

In Red Jessie Brooks writes hers on Clark's hand.

skully
02-16-2011, 09:10 PM
Yes!! Well done, sv84. It is a phone number and you have the specific versions with something in common - they were written on someone's hand.

Nice work, you're up. :)

smallville84
02-16-2011, 10:47 PM
Can be held in one hand.
Seen in multiple episodes.
Has changed appearances.

What is it?

skully
02-16-2011, 10:54 PM
Can it be held and lifted in one hand?

Is it made of hard material?

Is it alien, edible, organic, electrical/electronic?

Can it be worn?

Is it colorful?

Is it functional or decorative?

Would the item be seen in a residence? An office or place of business? A place of recreational or entertainment? A medical facility?

Do we see it in Smallville? Metropolis? At or near a common series location? Indoors? Day or night?

Is it handled by any mains? Current, MS, M/F, ever guest, alive, bearded, human, Clark's age?

smallville84
02-16-2011, 11:40 PM
can be held and lifted in one hand.

Mostly hard material.

Not alien, edible, organic, or electrical/electronic.

can be worn.

not colorful.

functional.

could be seen at any of those places.

Seen in Smallville and Metropolis. has been seen at common locations. Seen both indoors and out. day and night.

handled by 3 mains

former MS, M, has been a guest, dead, not bearded, human, older than Clark.
former MS, F, has been a guest, alive, not bearded, human, older than Clark.
current MS, M, never guest, alive, not bearded, not human, Clark's age.

skully
02-17-2011, 12:04 AM
Is mains 1 a bit older than Clark, or much older? Is it Jonathan? And main 2 is Martha? Main 3 is Clark.

Is the item handled at the farm? Is it seen at the Talon? The mansion? SV High? SMC?

Is it seen at LCHQ, the DP?

Is its change in apperance due to a transformation, or a continuity problem by the props department? :)

Is it important to the plot of any episode? Do we see it before or after Jonathan's death?

xrayvision
02-17-2011, 12:10 AM
Damn!! I was sure I had it with toner. That was pretty devious skully. Nice solve smallville84. I would have never gotten that.

smallville84
02-17-2011, 12:37 AM
It is handled by Johnathan, Martha and Clark.

It is handled at the farm. it may be seen at those places
but mainly at the farm. and two recurring locations.

a continuity problem by the props department.:)

It's used as a plot device in 4 episodes. we see it before and after.

xrayvision
02-17-2011, 12:49 AM
Jonathan's watch?

smallville84
02-17-2011, 12:54 AM
that's it xray.

you're up.

xrayvision
02-17-2011, 01:00 AM
This item was never seen.
It was indirectly related to the plot of an episode.
It is a fairly common item.

What is it?

smallville84
02-17-2011, 01:10 AM
Can it be held in one hand? fit in a closed fist?

Is it made of any of the following: metal, wood, glass, porcelain, ceramic, clay, mud, plastic, stone/mineral, gem, paper, cardboard, fabric, or some type of organic material?

skully
02-17-2011, 01:21 AM
Damn!! I was sure I had it with toner. That was pretty devious skully. Nice solve smallville84. I would have never gotten that.Cheers, man. I liked it. :D

hamm3rtym3
02-17-2011, 01:34 AM
Johnathan's wallet, Run, season 4

ReignoftheSupermen
02-17-2011, 10:51 AM
Johnathan's wallet, Run, season 4

I think we did see the wallet later in the episode.

xrayvision
02-17-2011, 06:28 PM
Can it be held in one hand? fit in a closed fist?

Is it made of any of the following: metal, wood, glass, porcelain, ceramic, clay, mud, plastic, stone/mineral, gem, paper, cardboard, fabric, or some type of organic material?

It could be held in a hand but not in a closed fist.

It's not made of any of those materials.

skully
02-17-2011, 07:06 PM
So is the item mentioned? By a main? Current, MS, M/F, ever guest, alive, bearded, human, Clark's age? By a RG - >2<5, M/F, ever main, powers, alive, incarcerated, Clark’s age?

Was it mentioned at a common series location? In Smallville? Metropolis? Indoors? Day or Night?

xrayvision
02-19-2011, 04:11 AM
No the item itself was never mentioned.

skully
02-19-2011, 02:52 PM
So it's never seen nor mentioned?

Is it referred to in writing? On a computer screen, in a newspaper article, on an invoice or order, on a piece of paper, on a poster or billboard, an a wall?

xrayvision
02-19-2011, 04:30 PM
So it's never seen nor mentioned?

Is it referred to in writing? On a computer screen, in a newspaper article, on an invoice or order, on a piece of paper, on a poster or billboard, an a wall?

Correct, never seen or mentioned.

It's indirectly referred to in writing, on a computer screen.

skully
02-19-2011, 04:37 PM
Do we see the indirect reference in Smallville? Metropolis? At or near a common series location? Indoors? Day or night?

Do we see it before or after Roger Nixon’s death? Morgan Edge's? Alicia’s? Jonathan's? Lionel's? Jimmy’s? Old Lex clone’s?

On Chloe's PC, Clark's, Lois's, Lex's?

xrayvision
02-19-2011, 04:39 PM
In Smallville in a common series location, indoors, during the day.

After ME's death & before AB's.

Chloe's.

skully
02-19-2011, 05:04 PM
So do we see it at the Torch?

xrayvision
02-19-2011, 05:24 PM
Yes.

skully
02-19-2011, 05:41 PM
Is it made of hard material, or liquid? Or gas?

Does Chloe see the indirect reference? Or some other main? Clark? Pete? Lana? Lois?

How many of the above charatcers are in the room when we see the reference.

Do we see it before or after Lana went to Paris?

xrayvision
02-19-2011, 07:37 PM
Hard material.

Chloe, Clark & Lana.

All 3.

Before.

skully
02-20-2011, 02:15 AM
Is it indirectly referenced in the scene at the Torch in Crisis where Clark, Chloe and lana are analysing Lana's 911 call to Clark? If so, is it on the computer where they were doing the sound analysis or the one Clark turned to to get the details of the Metros v Vipers game and the weather forecast?

Is the item anything to do with basketball? Weather?

xrayvision
02-20-2011, 03:21 AM
Yes.

Yes (basketball).

skully
02-20-2011, 03:24 AM
Hmm, we've seen basketballs, backboards, rings, nets, courts. Something that can be held and lifted in one hand but not in a close fist?

Is it a basketball shoe? Is it made of hard rubber/leather?

xrayvision
02-20-2011, 07:12 AM
Not a shoe.

ReignoftheSupermen
02-20-2011, 10:00 AM
Is it the basketball Gunnerson used to shoot with?

skully
02-20-2011, 11:50 AM
So when you say the item was never seen, are you referring to the specific item, or any version of it? If it's the specific item then it could well be the basketball Gunnerson shot with.

xrayvision
02-20-2011, 06:22 PM
Yes, it's the basketball used during the game.

When I said the item was never seen, I was referring to the specific version. I'll specify that from now on.

skully
02-20-2011, 06:24 PM
Well done, RotS. Whatcha got for us? :)

ReignoftheSupermen
02-21-2011, 12:28 PM
Wow, that was unexpected. Thanks to Skully for doing all the hard work on that one.

-This specific item was handled by a main
-The item (indirectly) was important to the episode in which it was seen
-The item doesn't exist by itself, but rather is attached to something else

MrsK
02-21-2011, 01:34 PM
Is the main current? MS? M/F? Ever a guest? alive? human? bearded? Clark's age?

Can it be held and lifted in one hand?

Is it made of hard material?

Is it alien, edible, organic, electrical/electronic?

Can it be worn?

Is it colorful?

Is it functional or decorative?

Would the item be seen in a residence? An office or place of business? A place of recreational or entertainment? A medical facility?

Do we see it in Smallville? Metropolis? At or near a common series location? Indoors? Day or night?

ReignoftheSupermen
02-21-2011, 03:47 PM
Main is: MS, male, never a guest, alive, non human, non bearded, Clark's age

(Assuming it was detached from what it is attached to) It's too big to be held in one hand by most "normal" people. Maybe some stronger guys could do it. It's awkward shape would also make it difficult to lift and hold comfortably. It's pretty heavy too.

Yes, made of hard material

NOT alien, edible, organic, electric or electrical

CANNOT be worn

NOT colorful

Functional

Not likely to be seen at a residence. Possibly near a place of business, recreation or entertainment or near a medical facility. NOT actually inside of any of those places though.

We see it in Smallville. Not really near a common location. We see it outdoors, at night.

Whew! I feel like I just finished an exam, lol

MrsK
02-21-2011, 04:22 PM
Made of metal?
Is the thing it is attached to some sort of vehicle or construction/farm/other equipment?
Would it always be seen outdoors?

ReignoftheSupermen
02-21-2011, 07:10 PM
Yes, metal
Yes, attached to a vehicle (closing in)
Yes, always outdoors

xrayvision
02-21-2011, 07:20 PM
Is it attached to a farming vehicle like a tractor? Or a pickup truck? Or another type of truck?

Is it a bumper? I think Clark picked up the one attached to the Kent truck in Delete after he crashed it while under the influence of Molly's computer program.

ReignoftheSupermen
02-21-2011, 07:35 PM
Yes, a bumper. Not attached to a truck or any farming vehicle.

MrsK
02-21-2011, 07:36 PM
Are you looking for a specific bumper, or does xray have it?

ReignoftheSupermen
02-21-2011, 07:38 PM
A specific bumper

xrayvision
02-21-2011, 07:40 PM
Is it the bumper of Dex's car that Clark touches in Relic?

ReignoftheSupermen
02-21-2011, 07:42 PM
Not Dex's bumper

skully
02-21-2011, 07:45 PM
Is it Lex's bumper that stops just before Clark's face and arm after he woke up on route 8 after "sleep-flying" (allegedly) in the opening teaser of Rosetta?

MrsK
02-21-2011, 07:46 PM
Is it attached to a car?
Does Clark lift the bumper? Crush the bumper? Or just touch it?

xrayvision
02-21-2011, 07:48 PM
Or the bumper of Lana's car in Lockdown just before he finds the tracking device?

Or perhaps the bumper of Lex's car in Progeny?

MrsK
02-21-2011, 07:50 PM
Or the bumper of Lex's car in the Pilot?
Or Morgan Edge's car in Shattered?

ReignoftheSupermen
02-21-2011, 07:51 PM
Or the bumper of Lex's car in the Pilot?
Or Morgan Edge's car in Shattered?

Neither of those

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Is it Lex's bumper that stops just before Clark's face and arm after he woke up on route 8 after "sleep-flying" (allegedly) in the opening teaser of Rosetta?

nope

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Is it attached to a car?
Does Clark lift the bumper? Crush the bumper? Or just touch it?

not attached to a car

Clark does lift/pull on the bumper!

MrsK
02-21-2011, 07:53 PM
Or the bumper of Lana's car in Lockdown just before he finds the tracking device?

Or perhaps the bumper of Lex's car in Progeny?
Did you see these?

ReignoftheSupermen
02-21-2011, 07:53 PM
Or the bumper of Lana's car in Lockdown just before he finds the tracking device?

Or perhaps the bumper of Lex's car in Progeny?

Neither of those

MrsK
02-21-2011, 07:54 PM
Is the bumper in question attached to anything?

Never mind - already answered.

Is it attached to a motorcycle?

ReignoftheSupermen
02-21-2011, 08:00 PM
Not attached to a motorcycle

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Yes, it's attached.

MrsK
02-21-2011, 08:09 PM
Attached to a vehicle, but not a truck, car, motorcycle, or farm equipment... Hmm. What else has a bumper? A trailer? A van?

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Is the vehicle in motion/trying to be in motion when Clark handles the bumper?

xrayvision
02-21-2011, 08:21 PM
What about the bumper of Pete's car in Duplicity?

MrsK
02-21-2011, 08:45 PM
he said it wasn't attached to a car

xrayvision
02-21-2011, 08:51 PM
What about the tow truck in Whisper?

skully
02-21-2011, 09:18 PM
How about the bumper of the bus the 2nd time around in Reckoning? Clark grabbed it to slow the bus so it didn't T-bone Lana's SUV as it had the 1st time around.

MrsK
02-22-2011, 08:06 AM
Ooh! Good guess, skully. :)

ReignoftheSupermen
02-22-2011, 10:29 AM
How about the bumper of the bus the 2nd time around in Reckoning? Clark grabbed it to slow the bus so it didn't T-bone Lana's SUV as it had the 1st time around.

Well done Skully

skully
02-22-2011, 02:55 PM
Okey dokes, another soonish. :)

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This is a very common thing in the series
It is owned by a main
It has more than one function.

What is it?

xrayvision
02-22-2011, 08:50 PM
Is the main MS/SS? Current/former? M/F? Alive/dead? Ever a guest? Bearded? Alien? How old wrt Clark?

Is it alien? Electric/electronic?

Is it a weapon? Can it be used as a weapon?

Is it made of metal, wood, stone/mineral, glass, rubber, plastic/polymer, gem, porcelain, clay/mud, ceramic, cardboard, fiberglass, fabric, liquid, or some other organic material?

Is it expensive? Is it bought or homemade? Does it occur in nature without any processing/manufacturing?

Given you said it has more than 1 function, is it also decorative? Could it be worn?

Is it's function domestic (household related) or commercial? Or is it used for something underhanded/evil/illegal?

skully
02-22-2011, 09:03 PM
The main is MS, current, F, alive, was a guest, non-bearded, human, slightly older than Clark.

It is not alien or electrical/electronic.

It is not a weapon and can't be used as a physical weapon.

It is not made of any of those things.

It is not expensive. It is homemade. It occurs without any processing or manufacturing.

It is not decorative. It can't be worn.

It's function is probably best described as domestic (of the two options). It is not used for something underhanded/evil/illegal.

xrayvision
02-22-2011, 09:34 PM
Hmm, so Lois owns it & its a natural item but is not organic.

Is it cigarettes? Though those are made of tobacco (which is organic) and is manufactured.

Is it used for recreation?

skully
02-22-2011, 09:41 PM
It is not cigarettes.

Lois has used it recreationally a few times.

xrayvision
02-23-2011, 01:41 AM
Is it something that's thrown? Bounced? Used in sports? Monster truck related? Something she uses for cosmetic purposes? Related to driving? Whitesnake-related?

Is it round, cubical/rectangular, pyramidal, or irregularly shaped? Does it even have structure or is it more like putty (structureless/amorphous)?

skully
02-23-2011, 01:54 AM
It is not physically thrown, bounced, or used in sports. It has been used in some Moster truck related interactions.

Not for cosmetic purposes, not related to driving, not really Whitesnake related, all though there was one scene where this item and Whitesnake have a brief encounter.

It has no structure.

xrayvision
02-23-2011, 04:58 AM
Is it tangible/physical? Colorful or Earth-tones?

skully
02-23-2011, 11:53 AM
It is not a tangible, physical thing. It has no color.

ReignoftheSupermen
02-23-2011, 02:30 PM
Is it an abstract concept like guilt? Or something like advice? Trash-talking?

skully
02-23-2011, 03:39 PM
I wouldn't call it an abstract thing. It is a non-physical thing that Lois owns and uses. There is also another version of the thing.

Not guilt, advice or trash-talking.

ReignoftheSupermen
02-23-2011, 04:47 PM
Something like a membership? To a gym or video store?

skully
02-23-2011, 05:12 PM
Not a membership.

ReignoftheSupermen
02-23-2011, 05:24 PM
Is it something grants her special priviledges?

skully
02-23-2011, 05:25 PM
No.

ReignoftheSupermen
02-23-2011, 05:40 PM
Music?

skully
02-23-2011, 07:19 PM
Nup. It is something solely owned by Lois.

ReignoftheSupermen
02-23-2011, 07:42 PM
Could others used it if they wanted to?

skully
02-23-2011, 07:46 PM
They could, but I don't recall anyone doing so in the series. If they have it hasn't happened very often.

ReignoftheSupermen
02-24-2011, 04:13 PM
I'm stumped. Did Lois using this thing in season 4?

skully
02-24-2011, 05:16 PM
She didn't use it in her very first episode (at least not the version she owns), but used it regularly in S4 and in many episodes since.

ReignoftheSupermen
02-24-2011, 06:01 PM
Not a physical item we can actually see or hold? No "color". Is it a part of her personality? Is it some function of her body (like singing, burping, etc)? I'm totally lost. Is it an ability she has? Like driving?

skully
02-24-2011, 07:26 PM
That's correct, it is not a physical item that can be held, nor has any color. A manifestation of it can be held.

You could say it unique to Lois' personality. I guess you could say it is related to one bodily function but not burping or singing.

It is not an ability, like driving.

ReignoftheSupermen
02-25-2011, 05:24 PM
I got nothin

skully
02-25-2011, 07:38 PM
Is there one particular thing that you almost expect Lois to use in every episode (in particular scenes)?

ReignoftheSupermen
02-25-2011, 09:02 PM
cell phone? But that's a tangible item.

skully
02-25-2011, 10:41 PM
It is definitely intangible but it is just so Lois, and only Lois.

Hint: Lois uses this thing when dealing with another specific person.

ReignoftheSupermen
02-26-2011, 10:33 AM
Her rules for reporting?

skully
02-26-2011, 03:23 PM
Not her rules of reporting (they have a framed tangible version :)).

ReignoftheSupermen
02-26-2011, 04:48 PM
Sorry Skully, I'm probably missing something important but right now I just can't think of anything. You said it's not a tangible item, but does it RELATE to a tangible item? For example, a ticket relates to an event you'd attend; a driver's license relates to the privilege to drive)

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Is there a tangible item loosely related to whatever this "thing" is Lois has or does?

skully
02-26-2011, 05:35 PM
Yes, it is related to a tangible item and relates very closely with that item.

ReignoftheSupermen
02-26-2011, 06:09 PM
Would I be wasting my time if I focused on the tangible item first? Would identifying that item help me identify the intangible item? Is the tangible item a piece of paper? a card?

skully
02-26-2011, 06:56 PM
Not at all. If you get the tangible item, you should be able to work out the intangible "it" pretty quickly. I mentioned a significant clue a few posts back (previous page - "Hint:") that that might point you in the right direction.

The tangible item is not a piece of paper or a card.

ReignoftheSupermen
02-26-2011, 07:51 PM
Hmm, another specific person. I assumed you meant Clark, but maybe not. Is it Clark?

skully
02-26-2011, 09:05 PM
It is Clark. :)

ReignoftheSupermen
02-26-2011, 09:37 PM
when she deals with him professionally or personally?

skully
02-26-2011, 10:12 PM
Both. But it's fair to say "it" is a more personal thing.

ReignoftheSupermen
02-26-2011, 10:29 PM
Is it an action? A feeling? An emotion? A policy?

skully
02-26-2011, 11:23 PM
Not an action, feeling, emotion or policy. So she uses this "it" in relation to Clark in both professional and personal situations but it is definitely a personal thing (just between Lois and Clark).

ReignoftheSupermen
02-27-2011, 10:44 AM
sex appeal?

skully
02-27-2011, 10:46 AM
Nup. It's as common as Lois' sex appeal but way more iconic (series wise). I guess it's sort of an action - but a very specific one.

ReignoftheSupermen
02-27-2011, 10:49 AM
Getting herself into trouble (and therefore needed rescuing by Clark)?

Maybe her big mouth? lol

skully
02-27-2011, 03:57 PM
Not getting herself into trouble, nor needing saving by Clark.

Not her big mouth but that's getting a bit closer to the mark.

ReignoftheSupermen
02-27-2011, 04:08 PM
Her investigative skills?

skully
02-27-2011, 04:54 PM
Nup. It is something she uses in relation to Clark.

MrsK
02-28-2011, 08:05 AM
Smirk?

skully
02-28-2011, 11:33 AM
Not her smirk. It is to do with her mouth, but not how it looks but what she says.

ReignoftheSupermen
02-28-2011, 03:59 PM
kiss?

skully
02-28-2011, 07:21 PM
No, not a kiss, something she says.

MrsK
02-28-2011, 10:45 PM
Calling Clark Smallville?

skully
02-28-2011, 10:59 PM
That's it, MrsK. "It" is Lois' nickname for Clark i.e "Smallville". I think there may have been one or two people repeat Lois and use the nickname (most notably Ollie when he first met Clark at his apartment).

Well done - you're up. :)

ReignoftheSupermen
03-01-2011, 03:05 PM
Well done Mrs K!

MrsK
03-02-2011, 08:20 PM
That's it, MrsK. "It" is Lois' nickname for Clark i.e "Smallville". I think there may have been one or two people repeat Lois and use the nickname (most notably Ollie when he first met Clark at his apartment).

Well done - you're up. :)
And don't forget Chloe in Hex when everyone thought she was Lois. :)

All right - another soonish; maybe tomorrow.

skully
03-02-2011, 08:27 PM
Ah yes, Chloe-in-Lois always catches me out. :)

MrsK
03-02-2011, 09:03 PM
It is mentioned 4 times.
It is used as a metaphor.
It is never seen.

What is it?

ReignoftheSupermen
03-03-2011, 03:47 PM
Is it a tangible item? It is something "real"? Fictional?

MrsK
03-03-2011, 05:47 PM
It is tangible.
I'd say legendary is a better word than real or fictional - would depend on who you talk to, I think.

ReignoftheSupermen
03-03-2011, 05:53 PM
Superman?

MrsK
03-03-2011, 09:13 PM
Not Superman :)

ReignoftheSupermen
03-04-2011, 04:42 PM
Hmmm, you said "legendary". Is it something from the pages of a comic book?

xrayvision
03-04-2011, 05:00 PM
Is it made of metal, wood, glass, plastic, rubber, porcelain, stone/mineral, ceramic, gem, cardboard, paper, fabric, clay/dirt/mud, a type of liquid, or some other organic material?

Is it expensive? Can it be bought in a store?

Is it colorful?

Decorative or functional?

Is it a weapon or could it be used as one?

MrsK
03-07-2011, 11:02 AM
Hmmm, you said "legendary". Is it something from the pages of a comic book?No.


Is it made of metal, wood, glass, plastic, rubber, porcelain, stone/mineral, ceramic, gem, cardboard, paper, fabric, clay/dirt/mud, a type of liquid, or some other organic material?

Is it expensive? Can it be bought in a store?

Is it colorful?

Decorative or functional?

Is it a weapon or could it be used as one?
It is most often considered to be made of metal, but it could also be made of wood.
It would be very expensive as it is one-of-kind. It cannot be bought in a store.
It is not seen, so we can't determine whether it is colorful. I'd guess not.
Originally, functional. Still considered to be functional by some; could be decorative as well.
It is not a weapon. It could be used as one in the sense that just about anything could be, but that isn't likely.

ReignoftheSupermen
03-07-2011, 03:31 PM
Something historical like a landmark? Something a kid might learn about in school? Something to do with the founding of our country (in this case, America)?

MrsK
03-11-2011, 06:21 AM
Nothing to do with the founding of America or any other country.
It is something historical, but not a landmark.
A kid might learn about it in school.

skully
03-11-2011, 08:35 PM
Is it used as a metaphor on each of the 4 occasions it's mentioned?

Is it mentioned by mains - current, MS, M/F, ever guest, alive, bearded, human, Clark's age? Or by RGs - >2<5, M/F, ever main, powers, alive, incarcerated, comatose, Clark’s age?

Mentioned to mains or RGs (same Qs)

Is it bigger than a cup? Bigger than a suitcase? Bigger than a table? Bigger than a car?

Is it an American (US) historical thing? Or another country?

MrsK
03-13-2011, 02:17 PM
Yes - always a metaphor.
Mentioned by:
1 - female main, current, alive, never a guest, Clark's age;
2 - female main, current, was a guest, a little older than Clark;
3 - Male RG, >5, never a main, no powers, dead, a little older than Clark;
4 - male main, former, was a guest, alive, Clark's age, not bearded
Mentioned to:
1 - female main, former, alive, was a guest, Clark's age;
2 - female main, current, was a guest, a little older than Clark;
3 - male main, former, was a guest, dead, a little older than Clark, not bearded;
4 - current male main, never a guest, alive, alien, Clark's age.
About the size of a cup - depending on the size of the cup you are thinking of; probably a little bigger than a coffee cup.
It is not American.

skully
04-02-2011, 10:45 PM
So it's mentioned as a metaphor by Chloe, Lois and Pete. Is the mentioning RG Grant Gabriel?

It is mentioned to Lana, Lois and Clark. Is the dead former male main MS or SS?

Is it something like a chalise?

MrsK
04-04-2011, 08:28 AM
Yes, the RG Is Grant.
Sorry - the dead former main is multi-season.
It is something like a chalice.

skully
04-04-2011, 02:57 PM
Is it the Holy Grail?

MrsK
04-04-2011, 07:00 PM
It is. Well done. :)

skully
04-05-2011, 12:09 AM
OK, another soonish. :)

skully
04-05-2011, 01:41 AM
OK...

"It" is mentioned twice in the series
We see two apparent examples of "it" in the series
These examples are not the mentioned versions of "it".

What is it?

MrsK
04-05-2011, 06:25 AM
Are the mentioners 2 different characters?
Are they mains? (Current, MS, M/F, ever guests, alive, human, bearded, Clark's age?)
Or guests? (RGs, >2, <5, m/f, ever mains, powers, human, alive, incarcerated, comatose, Clark's age?)
Same questions for the people they were mentioned to.

skully
04-05-2011, 02:00 PM
"It" is mentioned by 2 mains - current, MS, M, never guest, alive, alien, non-bearded, Clark's age, and current, MS, F, was a guest, alive, human, non-bearded, slightly older than Clark.

"It" is mentioned to 2 mains - former, MS, M, was a guest, dead, human, non-bearded, much older than Clark, and former, MS, M, was a guest, dead, human, non-bearded, Clark's age.

MrsK
04-05-2011, 04:38 PM
So mentioned by Clark and Lois to Jonathan and Jimmy?

Is it tangible?

Can it be held and lifted in one hand? In a closed fist?

Is it made of hard material?

Is it alien, edible, organic, electrical/electronic?

Can it be worn? Is it designed to be?

Is it colorful?

Can it be used as a weapon?

Is it man-made?

skully
04-05-2011, 05:48 PM
It is tangible.

It can sometimes be held and lifted in one hand, sometimes not. It cannot be held in a closed fist.

It is generally made of both hard and soft material.

It is not alien, not generally edible but not impossible to eat, is organic, is not electrical/electronic.

It is not designed to be worn but could be if that way inclined.

It is generally not very colorful.

It is not a weapon but there is nothing stopping someone using it as one.

It is partially created by man.

MrsK
04-05-2011, 07:45 PM
Those are some fairly vague answers! :D

Is it functional or decorative?

Would the it be seen in a residence? An office or place of business? A place of recreation or entertainment? A medical facility?

Is it mentioned in Smallville? Metropolis? At or near a common series location? Indoors? Day or night?

Is it mentioned before or after Roger Nixon’s death? Morgan Edge's? Alicia’s? Jonathan's? Lionel's? Jimmy’s? Old Lex clone’s?

Is the hard material any of the following, & if so, which: glass, metal, plastic, wood, stone/mineral, gem, ice, ceramic, porcelain, clay, liquid?

Is the soft material any of the following, & if so, which: rubber, soft plastic, fabric/cloth, paper, gel-like material, sponge, or cardboard? Does it have a liquid or gas component?

skully
04-05-2011, 08:05 PM
Hmm, I wouldn't describe it as either functional or decorative. One of the Smallville seen versions performed a function.

It wouldn't normally be seen in any of those places.

It is mentioned once in Metropolis, indoors, during the day and once in Smallville, outdoors during the day, both at common series locations.

It is mentioned after Alicia's and before Jonathan's death, and after Lionel's and before old Lex clone's.

It is not made of any of those hard or soft materials.

It may have a small liquid and gas component but not much.

skully
04-10-2011, 03:38 AM
Ahem.

MrsK
04-11-2011, 01:24 PM
Sorry. I haven't been able to give this much thought lately.

Recapping (with questions in red):

"It" is mentioned twice in the series
We see two apparent examples of "it" in the series
These examples are not the mentioned versions of "it".
"It" is mentioned by Clark and Lois to Jonathan and Jimmy. - Clark to Jonathan and Lois to Jimmy?
"It" is mentioned once in Metropolis, indoors, during the day and once in Smallville, outdoors during the day, both at common series locations. Can "it" be seen in the scenes in which "it" is mentioned?
"It" is mentioned after Alicia's and before Jonathan's death, and after Lionel's and before old Lex clone's.
"It" is tangible.
"It" can sometimes be held and lifted in one hand, sometimes not. "It" cannot be held in a closed fist.
"It" is generally made of both hard and soft material.
"It" is not made of glass, metal, plastic, wood, stone/mineral, gem, ice, ceramic, porcelain, clay, liquid, rubber, soft plastic, fabric/cloth, paper, gel-like material, sponge, or cardboard.
"It" may have a small liquid and gas component, but not much.
It is not alien, not generally edible but not impossible to eat, is organic, is not electrical/electronic.
"It" is not designed to be worn but could be if so inclined. Would it be worn above the neck? Above the waist? On an arm or hand?
"It" is generally not very colorful. - Is it a single color? Always the same color?
"It" is not a weapon, but there is nothing stopping someone using it as one.
"It" is partially created by man.
I wouldn't describe "it" as either functional or decorative. One of the Smallville seen versions performed a function.
"It" wouldn't normally be seen in an office, a place of business, a residence, a medical facility, or a place of recreation or entertainment. Would it normally be seen outdoors?


What is it?

skully
04-11-2011, 02:06 PM
Clark to Jimmy, Lois to Jonathan.

It is not seen in the scenes it is mentioned.

In the rare occasions I have seen it worn, it was above the neck.

Not a single color, but generally dull (not bright) colors and tones. Blacks, browns, some white. Not always the same color.

It would always been seen outdoors.

MrsK
04-11-2011, 04:53 PM
So Lois mentioned it to Jonathan in the 1st half of S5, at a common location (farm? Talon? Was it an election-related conversation?) in Smallville, outdoors during the day, and Clark mentioned it to Jimmy after Lionel's death, at a common location in Metropolis (Planet?), indoors, during the day.

Thinking...

skully
04-11-2011, 05:46 PM
Farm - election related.

At the DP.

MrsK
04-11-2011, 05:55 PM
Okay - is "it" roadkill?

skully
04-11-2011, 06:01 PM
"It" is indeed roadkill. Well done, MrsK. You're up. :)

MrsK
04-11-2011, 06:24 PM
Nice one! :) Another in a bit.

MrsK
04-12-2011, 10:54 AM
It is colorful.
It belonged to a character who died.
It is seen in multiple episodes.

What is it?

skully
04-12-2011, 02:42 PM
Was the dead character a main (MS, M/F, ever guest, bearded, human, Clark's age?) or RG (>2<5, M/F, ever main, powers, incarcerated, comatose, human, Clark’s age?)

Can it be held and lifted in one hand?

Is it made of hard material?

Is it alien, edible, organic, electrical/electronic?

Can it be worn? Designed to be?

Is it functional or decorative?

Would the item be seen in a residence? An office or place of business? A place of recreational or entertainment? A medical facility?

Do we see it in Smallville? Metropolis? At or near a common series location? Indoors? Day or night?

MrsK
04-13-2011, 07:44 AM
The dead character was a SEG, F, never a main, no powers, not incarcerated, not comatose, human, much older than Clark.

It can be held and lifted in one hand.

It is made of a hard material.

It is not alien, edible, organic, or electronic/electric.

It cannot be worn.

It is decorative.

It could be seen in any of those places. Business or place of recreation or entertainment would be less likely.

We see it in Smallville at a common location, indoors, day and night and in a single ep location - definitely not in Smallville, probably not in Metropolis.

skully
04-13-2011, 04:35 PM
Did the dead character appear before or after Roger Nixon’s death? Morgan Edge's? Alicia’s? Jonathan's? Lionel's? Jimmy’s? Old Lex clone’s?

Was the SEG murdered? By a freak? By a Luthor? Die of natural causes? Die by accident?

MrsK
04-15-2011, 06:58 AM
The dead character appeared after Old Lex Clone's death.
The SEG died of natural causes.

skully
04-15-2011, 08:35 AM
IS the common series location where we see it the farm? The Talon/apartment? The mansion?

Did the SEG die of old age? An illness?

MrsK
04-15-2011, 12:50 PM
Farm
Illness

skully
04-15-2011, 03:02 PM
Did the SEG have a name (first or last)? Did she have any lines? Interact with any mains (current, MS, M/F, ever guest, alive, bearded, human, Clark's age?)?

skully
04-16-2011, 07:09 PM
MrsK?

MrsK
04-16-2011, 08:51 PM
Sorry. Missed this one somehow.

The SEG has a first and last name.
She did have lines. She didn't interact directly on screen with any mains, but she did interact in a way with a main - current, MS, F, was a guest, human, alive, a little older than Clark.

skully
04-16-2011, 10:00 PM
So the SEG interacts with Lois in S10, but not onscreen. Hmm.

Did she speak the lines or write/type them?

Ah, is the SEG Lois' Mom, Ella Lane, as seen on the video tape in Abandoned?

Is "it" the blue glass duck?

MrsK
04-18-2011, 01:35 PM
Indeed it is "Old Blue." Well done. :)

skully
04-18-2011, 03:47 PM
OK.

I believe this item is only seen in one episode
It belonged to a guest
It may not have been what it seemed.

What is it?

MrsK
04-19-2011, 07:17 AM
Is the guest it belonged to RG/SEG, >2, <5, ever a main, m/f, alive, human, powers, incarcerated, comatose, Clark's age?

Is it tangible?

Can it be held and lifted in one hand? In a closed fist?

Is it made of hard material?

Is it alien, edible, organic, electrical/electronic?

Can it be worn? Is it designed to be?

Is it colorful?

Can it be used as a weapon?

Is it man-made?

Is it functional or decorative?

skully
04-19-2011, 02:51 PM
The guest is SEG, never main, M, dead, human, no powers, a bit older than Clark.

It is tangible.

It can be held and lifted in one hand but not a closed fist.

It is made of hard material.

It is not alien, edible, organic or electrical/electronic.

It cannot be worn, nor is it designed to be.

It is not colorful.

It can be used as a weapon.

It is man-made.

It is functional.

skully
04-21-2011, 12:03 AM
Bueller?

MrsK
04-22-2011, 07:32 AM
Is the hard material glass, metal, plastic, wood, stone/mineral, gem, ice, ceramic, porcelain, or clay?

Was it seen in a residence? An office or place of business? A place of recreation or entertainment? A medical facility?

Do we see it in Smallville? Metropolis? At or near a common series location? Indoors? Day or night?

Do we see it before or after Roger Nixon’s death? Morgan Edge's? Alicia’s? Jonathan's? Lionel's? Jimmy’s? Old Lex clone’s?

skully
04-22-2011, 04:34 PM
Mainly made of metal.

None of those places.

Not Smallville or Metropolis, nor at a common series location. Day and night, outdoors.

After Roger's and before ME's.

MrsK
04-22-2011, 04:41 PM
Is it a single-ep location??
Does anyone handle it?

skully
04-22-2011, 11:51 PM
Single epi location.

Yes, the SEG who owns it handled it.

MrsK
04-24-2011, 06:35 PM
Recap:

I believe this item is only seen in one episode.
It is seen at a single episode location.
It belonged to a SEG, never main, M, dead, human, no powers, a bit older than Clark.
The SEG who owns it handled it.
It may not have been what it seemed.
It is tangible.
It can be held and lifted in one hand but not a closed fist.
It is made mostly of metal.
It is not alien, edible, organic or electrical/electronic.
It cannot be worn, nor is it designed to be.
It is not colorful.
It can be used as a weapon.
It is man-made.
It is functional.
It was not seen in a residence, an office or place of business, a place of recreation or entertainment, or a medical facility.
It was not seen in Smallville or Metropolis.
It was seen outdoors during both day and night.
It was seen after Roger Nixon's death and before Morgan Edge's.

What is it?

----- Added 8 Minutes later -----

Is it relevant to the plot of the episode?
Is it a weapon?
Are any mains or named guests around when we see it?
Is it seen in Granville? Edge City? Kansas? Lex's island?

skully
04-24-2011, 06:47 PM
Yes, it's relevant to the plot of the epi.

It is a weapon.

Yes, there is a main there.

It's Lex's island. :) Closing in.

MrsK
04-24-2011, 06:57 PM
Is it the machete that Louis tries to kill Lex with (and presumably used to kill his father)?

skully
04-24-2011, 07:01 PM
Louis Leery's machete is "it", MrsK. Well done, you're up. :)

MrsK
04-24-2011, 07:20 PM
All right! Another tomorrow.:)

skully
04-27-2011, 04:32 PM
Hectic schedule at the moment, MrsK? :)

MrsK
04-27-2011, 07:19 PM
Very. I completely forgot I was up on this and the "Where Is It?" threads!

Let's see...

It is seen in a single episode.
It is functional.
It is handled by a single main.

What is it?

skully
04-27-2011, 07:32 PM
Is the main current, MS, M/F, ever guest, alive, bearded, human, Clark's age?

Can it be held and lifted in one hand?

Is it made of hard material?

Is it alien, edible, organic, electrical/electronic?

Can it be worn? Designed to be?

Is it colorful?

Is it functional or decorative?

Would the item be seen in a residence? An office or place of business? A place of recreational or entertainment? A medical facility?

Do we see it in Smallville? Metropolis? At or near a common series location? Indoors? Day or night?

MrsK
04-27-2011, 07:46 PM
The main is current, MS, M, never a guest, alive, alien, not bearded, Clark's age.

It can be held and lifted in one hand.

It is mostly not made of hard material.

It is not alien, edible, organic, or electronic/electric.

It would be odd to see it worn, but I guess it could be...

It is not colorful.

It is both functional and decorative. I'd say more functional.

It would most likely be seen in a residence.

We see it in Smallville at a common series location, indoors during the day.

skully
04-27-2011, 07:55 PM
So Clark handles it.

Does he handle in the barn? In the farmhouse? At SMC? At the Talon/apartment? At the mansion?

Do we see it before or after Roger Nixon’s death? Morgan Edge's? Alicia’s? Jonathan's? Lionel's? Jimmy’s? Old Lex clone’s?

MrsK
04-27-2011, 08:01 PM
In the farm house.
We see it after Nixon's death and before Morgan Edge's.

skully
04-27-2011, 08:07 PM
So it's made mostly of soft material? Is it mostly made of fabric/cloth, soft plastic, paper, cardboard, rubber, leather, vinyl, gel, foam. Is it mostly made of liquid or gas?

MrsK
04-27-2011, 08:33 PM
None of those things. Closest would be fabric/cloth.

skully
04-27-2011, 08:52 PM
Made of straw, wool, synthetic woven material, canvas, carpet, felt, hide?

Can it be held in a closed fist?

Does Clark hold it in his hands? In his bedroom? In the kitchen? Living/dining room? On the porch?

MrsK
04-27-2011, 09:20 PM
Possibly made of a synthetic material. Could also be wool, but I don't think so in this case. Most likely something else.
It would not fit in a closed fist.
Clark holds it in his hands - in the kitchen, I believe.

skully
04-27-2011, 09:31 PM
Maybe the jiffy-pop Clark overheated with his new heat vision in Heat?

MrsK
04-28-2011, 04:00 PM
No, not the jiffy-pop.

skully
04-28-2011, 04:22 PM
Is it some sort of food or drink container? Or is it something like a dishtowel? Is it made of cane or rattan?

MrsK
04-28-2011, 04:45 PM
Not a food or drink container.
Not a dishtowel.
It is not made of cane or rattan.

skully
04-28-2011, 04:55 PM
So it's made of something a bit like fabric or cloth, but it's not fabric? Is it foldable or quite rigid? Is it woven?

It's not the dry cleaner's bag with Jonathan's suit in it in Insurgence? But that's soft plastic.

MrsK
04-29-2011, 04:16 PM
Not the dry cleaners bag.
It is soft/foldable.
It is not woven.

skully
04-29-2011, 04:23 PM
Hmm. What soft material have I left out? Is it anything like latex? Fiberglass? Nylon? Lace?

Gonna have to narrow it a bit further. Do we see Clark handle "it" before or after Pine shoots Kern at LCHQ in Insurgence?

MrsK
04-29-2011, 04:48 PM
Clark handles it after Insurgence.
It is not latex, fiberglass, nylon, or lace.

skully
04-29-2011, 04:55 PM
Hmm, back to this later in the day. New ep awaits. :D

MrsK
04-29-2011, 04:57 PM
Enjoy! It isn't on here for another 2 hours! :(

skully
04-29-2011, 09:19 PM
Is it elastic?

MrsK
04-30-2011, 11:20 AM
No.

skully
04-30-2011, 03:52 PM
Is it of any significance to the plot of the epi? Is Martha and/or Jonathan in the kitchen at the time? Any other characters?

All I can think of at the moment is the notice of law suit in Precipice, the Foundry worker overalls that Clark had on in Witness. May have to drag out the DVDs.

ReignoftheSupermen
04-30-2011, 05:16 PM
In terms of area covered, is the fabric-like material closer to a dish rag (small), a bath towel (medium) or a parachute (large)?

MrsK
05-01-2011, 07:22 PM
It is not of real significance to the episode, but it is mentioned.
Martha, Jonathan, and one other character are there.
Not the overalls.
It is closer in size to a dish towel. Definitely smaller than a bath towel.

skully
05-01-2011, 07:59 PM
Is the other character a SEG or RG - >2<5, M/F, ever main, powers, alive, incarcerated, comatose, human, Clark’s age?

MrsK
05-01-2011, 08:04 PM
The other character is a main - former, MS, M, dead, not bearded, was a guest, a little older than Clark

skully
05-01-2011, 08:15 PM
So Lex is also there. Hmm, thinking.

skully
05-02-2011, 04:09 PM
Is it seen in either of Prodigal when Lex asked if he could stay after Lionel kicked him out or Calling when Lex came to ask if Jonathan and Martha would stand in for his father at the Wedding?

MrsK
05-02-2011, 04:18 PM
No, not in Prodigal or Calling.

skully
05-03-2011, 04:27 AM
Ah, I've backtracked and double-checked all the clues and realized my mistake. I had absent-mindedly pegged Morgan Edge's death as being in Phoenix (when Rutger Hauer exited) so had basically discounted S3, given Lex's absence from the farm in Exile and early Phoenix.

Is "it" perhaps the macrame pot-holder Clark offers Lex near the end of Phoenix after Lex arrived and Clark said he'd missed the garage sale then Lex showed the Kents the deed to their farm as gratitude for Jonathan's compass wedding gift saving his life.

MrsK
05-03-2011, 06:17 AM
It is. Well done. :)

skully
05-03-2011, 06:29 AM
I dunno how many times I went over late S2 episodes before realizing my error!!! Another soonish. :)

MrsK
05-03-2011, 06:58 AM
Happens to everybody. :D

skully
05-03-2011, 01:58 PM
OK, this item is referred to once in the series
I don't believe we ever see the item
It is used as a metaphor.

What is it?

ReignoftheSupermen
05-03-2011, 02:49 PM
tangible item? mentioned by a main? male/female? ever a guest? older/younger than Clark?

Was the metaphor intended to reference something good, bad? Neutral?

skully
05-03-2011, 03:01 PM
Yes a tangible item.

Mentioned by a main - F, was a guest, much older than Clark.

The metaphor was slightly derogatory but in a harmless way.

ReignoftheSupermen
05-03-2011, 03:25 PM
mentioned by Martha?

skully
05-03-2011, 03:38 PM
Yes.

ReignoftheSupermen
05-04-2011, 12:16 PM
Did Martha mention the item in connection to Clark's destiny/abilities?

MrsK
05-04-2011, 01:33 PM
Did Martha mention it to Clark? Jonathan? Lois?
Can it be held and lifted in one hand? In a closed fist?
Is it made of hard material?
Is it alien, edible, organic, electrical/electronic?
Can it be worn? Is it designed to be?
Is it colorful?
Can it be used as a weapon?
Is it man-made?
Is it bigger than a table?

skully
05-04-2011, 05:03 PM
Did Martha mention the item in connection to Clark's destiny/abilities?Indirectly.


Did Martha mention it to Clark? Jonathan? Lois?
Can it be held and lifted in one hand? In a closed fist?
Is it made of hard material?
Is it alien, edible, organic, electrical/electronic?
Can it be worn? Is it designed to be?
Is it colorful?
Can it be used as a weapon?
Is it man-made?
Is it bigger than a table?
By itself it cannot be held or lifted easily in one hand. Part of it could be held in a closed fist.

It is not made of hard material.

It is not alien, or electrical/electronic. It is edible and organic.

It is not designed to be worn but could be if one was inclined.

It is not colorful. Generally a single color or tone.

It cannot be used as a weapon easily.

It is partially man-made.

In it's most common form, it is smaller than a table.

ReignoftheSupermen
05-05-2011, 09:56 AM
If I'm reading this correctly, it's a food of some sort? If so, is it something that would more commonly consumed as a part of breakfast? dinner? Snack?

skully
05-05-2011, 01:55 PM
Not a food so much but not impossible to eat. Generally not part of anything consumed at those meals.

An organic product used for other purposes.

ReignoftheSupermen
05-05-2011, 02:14 PM
Something we might find on the farm?

skully
05-05-2011, 02:22 PM
Probably more likely to find it on the farm than any other residence. More likely found at a non-residence.