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Vergon6

07-27-2008, 12:02 AM

Some major spoilers in the link below ... thanks to Scott Chitwood.

Spoilers below detail the premiere episode of the third season, where it has been screened at the San Diego Comic Con.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=7545
Interesting spoilers. I went to The Dark Knight today and before the trailers started, they were showing commercials for some in-house AMC network. One of them was for Heroes. It showed Claire appearing to shoot Peter. That's most salient detail I can remember right now. Both her and Nikki look a lot 'darker' or villainous than usual. But that may be misleading. It also shows Level 5 with people exhibiting their abilities and then it shows Angela Petrelli as she discovers all the prisoners are gone.

Oh it's on NBC.com. I am not sure if you can view as you are in Canada. It is only a trailer but I don't know. But I am guessing most people have seen this before, and tonight was only the first time for me.

http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/video/video_display.shtml#mea=275656

Here is a youtube link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NafBdBLMmyE

And NOW I see there is multiple threads already about that promo. Sheesh, I am really not on the ball tonight.

Lexgirl33

07-27-2008, 01:27 PM

:eek: just read that its Peter from the future that shoots Nathan! Wait I am late on this one :lol:

God I miss this show.

RedPhoenix23

07-27-2008, 04:32 PM

Vergon6

07-27-2008, 07:02 PM

Ut oh... it sounds like Heroes is going to go into 4400 territory with it's very own Promician - even as far as having the creator test it on himself first - and then they are also making Nathan kinda Jorden Colier like with the religious experiance... If they try to squeeze in any fast aging babies and rant about 50/50 I am going to scream in fear. Don't get me wrong, I am excited and alll but I don't need a complete rehash of a CANCELLED telivision series.
Hopefully they are not going this route, and this is only an arc for this season or part of the season. I really tried to like the 4400, as it had some solid writers or creators from TNG and Deep Space Nine involved (Rene Echeveria, and Ira Steven Behr). But there was something about that I didn't like. I think in the attempt to make this mysterious and dark show, Ira Steven Behr and the writing staff made the show to sterile and mechanical, lacking real emotion, even when the characters were showing emotion. If that makes any sense.

Anyways, the Level 5 stuff sounds a lot like Level 3 and 33.1 from Smallville. That isn't a surprise since Jeph Loeb is on the writing staff though. And then of course Veritas and the Angela Petrelli's group are sort of similar ideas. It's not a matter of one show ripping off the other, I think there is an influence because some of the writers shared the writing room in Smallville when these ideas were probably first being discussed in their embryonic stages.

Ginx

07-27-2008, 07:37 PM

The_Frag_Man

07-27-2008, 08:33 PM

ILwC was right about Linderman.

RedPhoenix23

07-27-2008, 09:34 PM

I saw the S3 ENTIRE first episode at ComicCon and I do NOT think they are going 4400 on us. I just have to say that the episode was entirely just sooooo awesome. There were so many awesome parts with Sylar and so many OMG WTF moments that it was really worth waking up at 5am and standing in line for hours.

We do find out Mrs. Petrelli's power ;) and it's lining up for a most excellent season - just hope they can keep it going :)

The spoilers they listed are sorta acurate but they really water it down - it's so much different when you're watching it and it's just really cool the way everything plays out. NO ONE is safe.

There are so many funny scenes and Sylar is just sooo back in a big way - his final words to Claire are monumental!!!

Nathan comes back and is delusional about being healed by God and the news reporter catches it BUT Nathan is not crazy and once he passes out again and wakes up back in the hospital he is not all preachy and Godlike but he does think they are the equiv of angels as in they can do no wrong ;)

Suresh though lol.....uhm....he might be going insane........

I could lay out the entire episode for you but that's no fun for you ;) - I do agree that this episode gets the show back on track and makes it what S2 should have been IMO.

Future Peter......need I say more...... ;)

Nathan doesn't heal by himself.....dun dun dunnnnnnnnnn

Don't worry, if you've seen it then I'll believe you. It's just that the "watered down" spoiler description had me really worried. The two shows had similarities in the way that they both had peeps with abilities in them. Some were good and wanted to help, some were evil and wanted to hurt, and some just wanted to stick their heads in the sand and pretend they were normal. But they were still really different... at least until I read those spoilers. Eeek!

So Nathan comes back? Somehow Linderman must help him. Either a weirdly angelic Linderman that's obsessed with pot pies or Linderman didn't really die at the end of season one and they totally do a mind freak on Nathan to make him THINK Linderman is all angelic and crap while Linderman saves his life. Somehow this makes sense to me, lol. Linderman's voice is totally on one of the trailers so it's got to be him somehows.

Suresh crazy heh? Hmmm, the re-animator guy was a little bugnuts too when he was developing his promician shot too... well, he was always crazy but the future cured him, then he went a little batty again making the promician in S3 then was fine again in S4. You know, on that OTHER show. ;)

He isn't "crazy" because he's lost all taste and has hooked up with Maya is he? I heard he's getting a love interest and I could have sworn that I seen him locking lips with her in one of the trailers. I hope not. I just want the blackhole of screentime that is Maya: DEAD.

One more thing.... wth is Ma Petrelli's power? TELL ME NOW! Or no more heroes drinking game threads for you. You shall be banished! You hear me? Banished.

Vergon6

07-27-2008, 11:45 PM

Lexgirl33

07-28-2008, 04:07 PM

From hearing about the first episode, I wish we were seeing that as little mini-sodes over the summer instead of Going Postal ;). Thanks for the clarification. And as qute under your screenname, I agree the Dark Knight was awesome. I saw it on Saturday night, and since I am living in Chicago, I could swear I was seeing some of the buildings that were shown on-screen when I got out of the theater which was downtown. Anyways, I digress.

:lol: Ha isnt it hilarious how Wayne Enterprise is a pretty darn small building in the original skyline, but they make it out to be huge? I laugh at that everyday when I see it.

Ginx- Glad to know the first episode was good! I can't freaking wait? How long is it btw?

Vergon6

07-29-2008, 12:53 AM

:lol: Ha isnt it hilarious how Wayne Enterprise is a pretty darn small building in the original skyline, but they make it out to be huge? I laugh at that everyday when I see it.

Ginx- Glad to know the first episode was good! I can't freaking wait? How long is it btw?
Yeah that's what close-ups and wide angle lens are for I suppose. Is there a list somewhere of the buildings they showed in the movie? There are some buildings that look so much alike, that is hard to tell for the untrained eye to see which ones were used.

ratc2188

07-29-2008, 02:31 AM

Something that's been going through my mind since I read the spoilers....

I don't know if this is just something that I've missed but the last I saw, Nikki was injected with the incurable strain of the virus that was making people lose their powers. Because of this everyone thought that she had died in the fire in the finale. But yet here she's back with a different personality and possibly another power. So like I said, either I missed something or it will be explained later, but how is it that she has a new personality/possible new power when she's supposed to have the incurable strain of the virus?

RedPhoenix23

07-29-2008, 02:04 PM

Well she obivisouly didn't die, lol. Either Linderman somehow saved her too or more likely, Mo' saved her with some of Claire's blood and a mix of his blood thrown in - just to be sure that she would be cured of the virus as well as her burns. I haven't heard anything that says she has a new power but a new personality while annoying does make sense for her character. The stress of being in the middle of that explosion could have easily been all that was needed to make another personality emerge.

Superboy2

08-01-2008, 07:30 PM

If its future Peter that shoots Nathan, it could be Sylar posing as Nathan like in Five years gone.

Lexgirl33

08-02-2008, 08:09 PM

Yeah that's what close-ups and wide angle lens are for I suppose. Is there a list somewhere of the buildings they showed in the movie? There are some buildings that look so much alike, that is hard to tell for the untrained eye to see which ones were used.

Yes here you go :D

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/reviews/critics/chi-dark-knight-location-map,0,5523854.mapmashup

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If its future Peter that shoots Nathan, it could be Sylar posing as Nathan like in Five years gone.

Ah good point, but Sylar was laying in the alley right? Man I haven't watched that episode in a looonnnggg time.

Vergon6

08-03-2008, 01:28 AM

Yes here you go :D

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/reviews/critics/chi-dark-knight-location-map,0,5523854.mapmashup

Cool. I knew I recognized those hallways outside the courts before. I testified in a mock trial for school at the Daley Center :).

Ginx

08-04-2008, 07:30 AM

If its future Peter that shoots Nathan, it could be Sylar posing as Nathan like in Five years gone.

No, I don't think so - once you see the episode you'll understand - it is Future Peter and since this is a spoiler thread I'll just say it, Nathan is not dead...Linderman is back......... and Sylar wasn't totally 'fixed' yet, he needed Claire and now he's got what he needed and is going to get more powers from some random people's files he snagged while at Claire's house.

Sylar doesn't have much remorse this season it seems and he's got some good lines (based on the first episode).

What I'm still wondering is if the premiere is only an hour long, then what is going to happen the other two hours? I've read a few places it's either a two or three hour premiere........ It will not be two-three hours of premiere episodes.... that's for certain.

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I haven't heard anything that says she has a new power but a new personality while annoying does make sense for her character. The stress of being in the middle of that explosion could have easily been all that was needed to make another personality emerge.

She seems like she has no idea who she was - she doesn't remember Nathan and the old dude she's sleeping with when they introduce her again (in tacky lingerie I might add....why couldn't they give her something nice) is setting her up to 'play' with Nathan... yes, again.

Can't remember the name of her new persona but it's not Niki or Jessica.....someone else and she's a vapid person it would seem. I wish they'd give her a cool personality and stop just making her eye candy.......it would be nice if I actually cared about the character but I really don't......

SuperShazam!!

08-04-2008, 02:22 PM

sounds cool

Love your pic Ginx! Your lucky to meet them!

RedPhoenix23

08-04-2008, 02:49 PM

Can't remember the name of her new persona but it's not Niki or Jessica.....someone else and she's a vapid person it would seem. I wish they'd give her a cool personality and stop just making her eye candy.......it would be nice if I actually cared about the character but I really don't......

They really do need to quit bullcraping around and just bring back Jessica. If not, they just let her be Niki. I can't stand any of the other "personalities". Not to mention the fact that I still don't think it makes total sense that Niki is just crazy. Why else would the helix tattoo thing show up when she's Jessica? It could show up whenever she's anyone else but herself but I don't remember seeing it. I mean, I don't care how crazy she is, if superstrength is her only ability then peek-a-boo tattoos should be impossible.

ratc2188

08-04-2008, 05:48 PM

What I'm still wondering is if the premiere is only an hour long, then what is going to happen the other two hours? I've read a few places it's either a two or three hour premiere........ It will not be two-three hours of premiere episodes.... that's for certain.

From what I am understanding, the first hour is just to get everyone caught up with what has gone on in the Heroes universe. The second hour is the first episode that everyone has seen/read spoilers for. And the third hour is the second episode of the season. But I could be wrong...

Ginx

08-05-2008, 08:28 AM

So Nathan comes back? Somehow Linderman must help him.

He isn't "crazy" because he's lost all taste and has hooked up with Maya is he? I heard he's getting a love interest and I could have sworn that I seen him locking lips with her in one of the trailers. I hope not. I just want the blackhole of screentime that is Maya: DEAD.

One more thing.... wth is Ma Petrelli's power? TELL ME NOW! Or no more heroes drinking game threads for you. You shall be banished! You hear me? Banished.

Sorry if I'm late replying lol - Ma Petrelli's power is DREAMS. Peter's first power that we all thought was from Charles Deveaux. But Ma basically spits it out that she's onto Future Peter and she's not afraid of him. It's a cool dialogue between the two :)

Suresh, yeah there are some pushed sparks with Maya and YES she is still whiney.... but Suresh is actually crazy with power. He develops a syrum to give normal people powers and oh yeah - he injects himself without ANY trials. He's got the crazy eyes through out the whole episode! I think he might go dark side.

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Ginx- Glad to know the first episode was good! I can't freaking wait? How long is it btw?

It was only something like 80 something minutes minus commercials. So I don't know how they plan to fill the entire time gap of two-three hours for the premiere.

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They really do need to quit bullcraping around and just bring back Jessica. If not, they just let her be Niki. I can't stand any of the other "personalities". Not to mention the fact that I still don't think it makes total sense that Niki is just crazy. Why else would the helix tattoo thing show up when she's Jessica? It could show up whenever she's anyone else but herself but I don't remember seeing it. I mean, I don't care how crazy she is, if superstrength is her only ability then peek-a-boo tattoos should be impossible.

Agreed. I never liked the character myself but keep giving her a chance to make me care. I want more Jessica and more about the tattoo.

They symbol DOES show up a few places in the premiere episode.......

Oh yeah, and Hiro is too curious for his own good. And we get to meet a superfast new character that looks a lot like Elle but with short hair. Hiro's power doesn't quite contain her and yeah he basically gets his butt kicked and looks to be the cause of most of the damage this season....... because of what the fast chick stole from him.......

Hiro's dad makes a video appearance and it's cute and funny :)

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From what I am understanding, the first hour is just to get everyone caught up with what has gone on in the Heroes universe. The second hour is the first episode that everyone has seen/read spoilers for. And the third hour is the second episode of the season. But I could be wrong...

Funny, I would think that they would WANT us to forget most of S2. I mean, it wasn't all bad but huge chunks of it were blah :( But the premiere looks like they are back on track with good dialogue, action, drama, and an interesting storyline.

RedPhoenix23

08-05-2008, 01:49 PM

Sorry if I'm late replying lol - Ma Petrelli's power is DREAMS. Peter's first power that we all thought was from Charles Deveaux. But Ma basically spits it out that she's onto Future Peter and she's not afraid of him. It's a cool dialogue between the two :)

Dreams. Yes, I think I read that somewhere after I threatened to banish you, lol. I think I vaguely remember reading that Ma Petrelli locks Peter up because of it. But I don't know, it wasn't clear and her vision could be why she let the company lock him up LAST SEASON... right next to Adam. Yeah, that wasn't fishy at all. Guess we'll never know now.

Suresh, yeah there are some pushed sparks with Maya and YES she is still whiney.... but Suresh is actually crazy with power. He develops a syrum to give normal people powers and oh yeah - he injects himself without ANY trials. He's got the crazy eyes through out the whole episode! I think he might go dark side.

Nooo!!!!! Why can't Maya just die?? Sylar! Where are you?! We need you!

Seriously though, I think making Mo' power hungry is pushing it a bit.

It was only something like 80 something minutes minus commercials. So I don't know how they plan to fill the entire time gap of two-three hours for the premiere.

"One Hour Episodes" nowadays are usually around 40 minutes so with the fact the first hour is suspose to be recaps and then they could easily make 2 eps out of 80 mins of footage.

Agreed. I never liked the character myself but keep giving her a chance to make me care. I want more Jessica and more about the tattoo.

I like her. Well, I like the season one Niki/Jessica of her. At least she's better then Maya. :p

Oh yeah, and Hiro is too curious for his own good. And we get to meet a superfast new character that looks a lot like Elle but with short hair. Hiro's power doesn't quite contain her and yeah he basically gets his butt kicked and looks to be the cause of most of the damage this season....... because of what the fast chick stole from him.......

Again? Poor Hiro. :(

Well, he was suspose to be the cause of the virus getting released in S2 because of his stealing Kensei's woman and place in history.... but that got shelved.... so uh... nevermind. :\

Funny, I would think that they would WANT us to forget most of S2. I mean, it wasn't all bad but huge chunks of it were blah :( But the premiere looks like they are back on track with good dialogue, action, drama, and an interesting storyline.

Aww, I don't want all of S2 to be forgotton yo! Adam/Kensei, Elle, and Bob rocked it out in season two.

Ginx

08-06-2008, 11:24 AM

Dreams. Yes, I think I read that somewhere after I threatened to banish you, lol. I think I vaguely remember reading that Ma Petrelli locks Peter up because of it. But I don't know, it wasn't clear and her vision could be why she let the company lock him up LAST SEASON... right next to Adam. Yeah, that wasn't fishy at all. Guess we'll never know now.

ehhehe....sorry. Ma doesn't lock Future Peter up in the episode... but if you really want to know...... Future Peter puts reg Peter someplace safe.... and he's next to, no not Kensei, but HRG.

Nooo!!!!! Why can't Maya just die?? Sylar! Where are you?! We need you!

Seriously though, I think making Mo' power hungry is pushing it a bit.

I don't like her character either but I guess they need more diversity on the show or something.... I don't know. If she wasn't so whiney it would be ok. I get that she's stressed about her powers but sheesh......

Mohinder is more power obsessed in a way that he doesn't want to be useless. Not that he wants to rule the world. He just seems to think if he had powers he could protect people better and be of more use. His power - it seems he's super strong......

"One Hour Episodes" nowadays are usually around 40 minutes so with the fact the first hour is suspose to be recaps and then they could easily make 2 eps out of 80 mins of footage.

ok well, it could have been shorter than 80 min. lol - I wasn't keeping time and we were only in the room for a little over an hour and then they only did a few questions for Q&A...... so it could really have been more like 40-50 min...... my bad :(

Aww, I don't want all of S2 to be forgotton yo! Adam/Kensei, Elle, and Bob rocked it out in season two.

I didn't mean ALL of S2... just large portions of it lol.... I liked the parts when Peter wasn't afraid to use his powers (not the end when he was so eager to believe in Adam) and I liked some aspects of the season - I just didn't like that some characters seemed to digress instead of involve....

Smalvil1

08-06-2008, 11:33 AM

I was told that the episode shown at comic con was the first half of the two hour season premier episode that will premiere on september 22 (and will be preceded by a one hour clip show of the previous two seasons).

Sorry if I'm late replying lol - Ma Petrelli's power is DREAMS. Peter's first power that we all thought was from Charles Deveaux.

can you be a little bit more specific? such as what does she do with dreams? does she manipulate them, or like predict the future with them, or time travel with tthem?

Ginx

08-06-2008, 01:02 PM

I was told that the episode shown at comic con was the first half of the two hour season premier episode that will premiere on september 22 (and will be preceded by a one hour clip show of the previous two seasons).

can you be a little bit more specific? such as what does she do with dreams? does she manipulate them, or like predict the future with them, or time travel with tthem?

Ma said she dreams of the future. So she 'knew' when future Peter was coming etc. Then she states that it was the first power Peter ever had. They have a mini showdown with dialogue in the hallway of the hospital where Nathan is.... she walks right up to Peter and lays it down 'Where is Peter, you're not him - what have you done with him'

Well, at ComicCon they said that it was the entire premiere episode - so unless they put A LOT of commercials in it - it's not going to take up two hours.

Smalvil1

08-06-2008, 01:14 PM

Ma said she dreams of the future. So she 'knew' when future Peter was coming etc. Then she states that it was the first power Peter ever had. They have a mini showdown with dialogue in the hallway of the hospital where Nathan is.... she walks right up to Peter and lays it down 'Where is Peter, you're not him - what have you done with him'

Well, at ComicCon they said that it was the entire premiere episode - so unless they put A LOT of commercials in it - it's not going to take up two hours.

oh cool, thanks. sounds awsome. and well two hour episodes are 80 minutes long so commercials would be 40 minutes (sounds long but not really).

Ginx

08-06-2008, 01:53 PM

oh cool, thanks. sounds awsome. and well two hour episodes are 80 minutes long so commercials would be 40 minutes (sounds long but not really).

no worries - either way Heroes is back and the premiere is great so I'll be satisfied. Although I wish I could be surprised lol.... but it was a thrill to see it with so many fans at the con.

Smalvil1

08-06-2008, 01:57 PM

no worries - either way Heroes is back and the premiere is great so I'll be satisfied. Although I wish I could be surprised lol.... but it was a thrill to see it with so many fans at the con.

i bet it was. i wish i could have gone. your very lucky. well at least i saw only the first 15 minutes so i got a taste but didnt spoil my appetite.

RedPhoenix23

08-08-2008, 03:56 PM

ehhehe....sorry. Ma doesn't lock Future Peter up in the episode... but if you really want to know...... Future Peter puts reg Peter someplace safe.... and he's next to, no not Kensei, but HRG.

Then he can't be there for long can he? I do remember a promo with HRG telling Claire about the bad bad villians with powers that had recently escaped from the company. I mean if HRG gets out then Peter should too right? Or is Peter in another body all together so it doesn't matter if he escapes with HRG because he still must battle his future self? I do remember that promo had some other dude locked up claiming that he was Peter Petrelli.

I don't like her character either but I guess they need more diversity on the show or something.... I don't know. If she wasn't so whiney it would be ok. I get that she's stressed about her powers but sheesh......

Mohinder is more power obsessed in a way that he doesn't want to be useless. Not that he wants to rule the world. He just seems to think if he had powers he could protect people better and be of more use. His power - it seems he's super strong......

I just thought of something! How does MATT feel about being cheated on? (again) Maybe Matt will embrace his inner Sylar and end her? Well, a girl can dream can't she? :p

I didn't mean ALL of S2... just large portions of it lol.... I liked the parts when Peter wasn't afraid to use his powers (not the end when he was so eager to believe in Adam) and I liked some aspects of the season - I just didn't like that some characters seemed to digress instead of involve....

I really loved the parts where Adam was totally playing him like a fiddle. Our Peter is really trusting, so it makes sense that he would buy whatever a fellow prisoner sells him, especially if said prisoner offers to cure his brother and does it - but not until after twisting the knife in and bringing up the fact that Nathan's pain at being exploded is totally Peter's fault. The ease in which Adam does this really left the impression that this wasn't his first time doing something like that either. I could just imagine Adam gathering together the company and pooling the wool over their eyes one by one... creepy! :eek: Poor Kensei fell on some bad times after Carp stole his woman, blew him up, and snatched his place in history. It makes me worried for Claire and Peter since they have the regeneration power that Adam has.

Amensia Peter? Not my favorate. It was interesting the first time the eps aired but it's got a short shelf life. I want OUR PETER not amnesia boy. But.... I will say all the shirtless scenes he had in the first few eps almost make up for it, hehehehehehe. ;) I don't know what it was about Amensia Peter but that boy just couldn't keep his shirt on to save his life!

Ginx

08-08-2008, 07:11 PM

Then he can't be there for long can he? I do remember a promo with HRG telling Claire about the bad bad villians with powers that had recently escaped from the company. I mean if HRG gets out then Peter should too right? Or is Peter in another body all together so it doesn't matter if he escapes with HRG because he still must battle his future self? I do remember that promo had some other dude locked up claiming that he was Peter Petrelli.

well, HRG might end up using Peter to escape but you're right about Peter not looking like himself ;) Dun dun dunnnn - yet another turn :)

I just thought of something! How does MATT feel about being cheated on? (again) Maybe Matt will embrace his inner Sylar and end her? Well, a girl can dream can't she? :p

Matt still seemed like a good guy in the premiere but poor poor Matt...he got in Future Peter's way and so Future Peter sent him.....somewhere......

Our Peter is really trusting, so it makes sense that he would buy whatever a fellow prisoner sells him

Well, Future Peter doesn't seem to hold that same 'pull the wool over my eyes' type thing :) He's pretty in control. Shirtless Peter was fun :) I just liked that he wasn't afraid of his powers like he was before he lost his memory - the season picks up right exact to the moment of where S2 ended - with Nathan being shot and it just rolls right along from there - more like runs instead of rolls - the pace is very fast and they pack A LOT in!

By far though - Sylar is the scene stealer!

RedPhoenix23

08-08-2008, 08:19 PM

well, HRG might end up using Peter to escape but you're right about Peter not looking like himself ;) Dun dun dunnnn - yet another turn :)

Oh jeesh, I hope HRG's escape with Peter isn't what allows the other "Sylars" to escape as well. So far it seems as if HRG's attempts to keep Claire safe always to do more harm then good. Maybe he should just man up already and let her go live with the Petrelli's. Peter (when he defeats his future self and reclaims his real body or whatever he needs to do to look like himself again) and Nathan AKA her real father (after he's resurrected with his mission from god kick) should be all she'll ever need to be safe. They are her family afterall. Just keep her away from her creepy granny Petrelli. That chick is bad news bears. She might do something really evil and try to make Claire her little fashion mini me doll again like she did near the end of season one.

You know when I type it all out it kind of sounds silly, lol. Oh well, I love it anyways! :lol:

Matt still seemed like a good guy in the premiere but poor poor Matt...he got in Future Peter's way and so Future Peter sent him.....somewhere......

Somewhere huh? Like where? An island? Tell him to watch out for that smoke monster. It got him once already. Oh wait... wrong show, hehe.

Well, Future Peter doesn't seem to hold that same 'pull the wool over my eyes' type thing :) He's pretty in control. Shirtless Peter was fun :) I just liked that he wasn't afraid of his powers like he was before he lost his memory - the season picks up right exact to the moment of where S2 ended - with Nathan being shot and it just rolls right along from there - more like runs instead of rolls - the pace is very fast and they pack A LOT in!

And I can't help but think who do we have to thank for Peter getting his memory back? Hmmm? Sark. Oops, wrong show again. I meant Adam/Kensei. The season really did pick up when those two met up. Too bad the season had to end so soon.

By far though - Sylar is the scene stealer!

I can't wait!! Although, I don't care if he tells Claire eating brains is disgusting. He'll always be the brain eater power snatcher to me.....

I do wonder why he lets her live though? Is it because he CAN'T kill her because no matter what, she'll always regenerate? It's not like we saw her die in Five Years Gone or in the alternate timeline where he attacked her at homecomming. HRG could have taken that chance to hide her away from the company only making FutureHiro assume Claire had died since Sylar had her power. Which could be devastating for her in say 100 years time when everyone she currently loves is dead and she still gets carded for beer. Or is there some other freaky creepy reason he lets her live?

christian_kryptonian

08-10-2008, 09:11 PM

Heroes is going to be awesome.

Superboy2

08-10-2008, 09:45 PM

Yes it will

Ranroc

08-11-2008, 12:00 PM

Well, Future Peter doesn't seem to hold that same 'pull the wool over my eyes' type thing :) He's pretty in control. Shirtless Peter was fun :) I just liked that he wasn't afraid of his powers like he was before he lost his memory - the season picks up right exact to the moment of where S2 ended - with Nathan being shot and it just rolls right along from there - more like runs instead of rolls - the pace is very fast and they pack A LOT in!

By far though - Sylar is the scene stealer!

Hey, Glad to see everyone back and I'm glad to be back. great posts earlier -I love the Mama Petrelli posts. Just a quick thought on Peter. What if S2 Peter is actually future Peter which would explain his enjoyment of the the darkside in Ireland.

But Peter in my mind is the ultimate Bad guy. He is the best contrast to Sylar in regards to evil. Sylar wants power but Peter can take power whenever he wants from any hero that uses there power in his presents. This just hit me- What if future Peter(not Sylar) was the one in S1 that tried to kill Molly in the police station. This next post should probably be placed under theories/speculations. What if future Peter placed present Peter (PP and FP for now on) back in the past in which enabled Past Peter to save Claude on the bridge and comment the previous stated event in the police station. There are alot of loose ends that need to be cleared up in S3. Just like the roaches (What's the deal). If Linderman is back as some sort of spirit-so what's the deal with Papa Petrelli. Mama has the dream power so what is Charles D. power.

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By the way any insight on Who scared Peter's face.

RedPhoenix23

08-11-2008, 01:15 PM

Hey, Glad to see everyone back and I'm glad to be back. great posts earlier -I love the Mama Petrelli posts. Just a quick thought on Peter. What if S2 Peter is actually future Peter which would explain his enjoyment of the the darkside in Ireland.

Peter "enjoyed" the darkside so much in Ireland because his power has something to do with being an empath. So to heal, he has to think of Claire's sad little smile and to use TK he's got to think of the whacked out crazy Sylar who would totally get off on throwing a irish mobster against the wall and tk-choking him. With Peter's amnesia this powers bled through on pure instinct when he needed them but with his grinning at hurting the Irish guy is proof that he still has to access those emotions that the he feels about the orginial power owners - even if he doesn't realize it on a concious level.

But Peter in my mind is the ultimate Bad guy. He is the best contrast to Sylar in regards to evil.

I think Peter's contrasts to Sylar is what makes him the ultimate good guy but that's just my opinion yo.

As a side note, I think Adam/Kensei has the potential to be ultimate villian material. Simply because he has the potential to be the mastermind type of evil. To steal an example for Alias (with "Sark" involved, it's inevitable, lol) Kensei can be very Sloane like. Where you can see that he does has the compability and the desire to do good, which is partly how/why he's able to charm those around him into doing his dirty work. But Sylar? Don't get me wrong because I love him and all but that foo' does not play well with others. Maybe if he lost his powers again, then he'd be mastermind material because of how we saw him begin to manipulate Maya but at the end of the day, he was just keeping him close to him so that he could snack on her brains as soon as he got his powers back. Plus, she's an idiot. I bet my dog could fool her, lol.

Peter can take power whenever he wants from any hero that uses there power in his presents.

I don't think that's true. Peter soaked up Ted's nucluear power the very first second they met and Claire had to damn near put a bullet in him. Also, Peter is able to use DL's power as well and as of right now, he's never seen DL use it before.

This just hit me- What if future Peter(not Sylar) was the one in S1 that tried to kill Molly in the police station.

Woah, that's a stretch. No offense! Sorry! Sylar was clearly the one who killed Molly's parents because the dad's brain was missing and Molly with her ability was now able to find him wherever he's at. So it makes total sense that psychotic Sylar would think he's so powerful that he can sneak into a police station to get at her again and get away with it. I mean what was he gonna do? Let his midnight snack go? NEVEAH!!

What if future Peter placed present Peter (PP and FP for now on) back in the past in which enabled Past Peter to save Claude on the bridge and comment the previous stated event in the police station

Claude saved himself. Claude KNEW what HRG had been ordered to do but while he hoped his freind HRG would do the right thing and not follow the "kill Claude" order, he was prepared for it. That's why Claude leans agains the railing before going see-through. To fool HRG into thinking that he had fell to his death.

There are alot of loose ends that need to be cleared up in S3.

True that.

Just like the roaches (What's the deal).

I think it's just a theme. According to Mo' in the pilot, roaches not man are the most evolutionary significant thing on the planet. They can survive without food for months, can live for weeks headless, they are resistant to radiation, blah blah, etc. etc.

Mama has the dream power so what is Charles D. power.

Just a guess, but I would think it has something to do with being a guide to the evolutionary gifted individuals when they need him most - which Peter did at the end of S1. I guess it would be kind of like that little boy in India that helps Mo' out with his destiny in S1. It's probably something completely different though. We might not ever find out. :(

By the way any insight on Who scared Peter's face

I can't wait to find that out either. Maybe his face/head get whacked off at that spot and needs to place back together and since that would be such a hard thing to heal, it left a scar? LOL, yeah that's silly but that's all I got. :p

Ginx

08-11-2008, 05:04 PM

You know when I type it all out it kind of sounds silly, lol. Oh well, I love it anyways! :lol:

hehehe - that happens with any show - you start going on about it and then you're like....hey wait a minute I sound like a loon lol! I think that Future Peter makes the illusion that Peter is not Peter and that is why he doesn't look like himself :) Future Peter is pretty badazz :) It's so cool when he morphs from himself to what our Peter looks like - it's subtle but it's still cool. He didn't go back to his time so I think he might be here for a bit - I really feel like a Future Peter vs. Peter showdown would be epic, but at the same time - I guess back to the future rules don't apply?

To be honest, I'm not a Claire fan - and the show is once again trying to make her character very significant. I just don't care about the character too much - she's really whiney and she has this 'lost lamb' look that just turns me off lol..... but after what we learn in the opener - I don't think Claire will ever go away.

Somewhere huh? Like where? An island? Tell him to watch out for that smoke monster. It got him once already. Oh wait... wrong show, hehe.

We don't know where he is - he's wandering around far from anyone else - he should send out a mental flaire for help or something lol.....

I can't wait!! Although, I don't care if he tells Claire eating brains is disgusting. He'll always be the brain eater power snatcher to me.....

Well, that part is cool - it shows what he does sorta to find the 'power' and the part is funny too mostly because of the was Sylar says 'Eat your brain Claire? That's disgusting' and it's just hilarious.

I do wonder why he lets her live though? Is it because he CAN'T kill her because no matter what, she'll always regenerate? Or is there some other freaky creepy reason he lets her live?

ok, you ready? Sylar finishes with Claire then puts the hair part of her scalp back on and walks away - Claire asks him .... 'wait, you're not going to kill me...why?' and Sylar says........ 'Claire you're not like the others, I couldn't kill you if I tried, you're going to live forever, and I guess..... now so will I' then he walks out the door!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is so much in this episode we could keep talking about it lol - in the future, Ando has powers - chew on that lol ......... it has to do with either the forumla that Hiro lost or the syrum that Sheresh has come up with..... :) and he uses the power on.....Hiro!

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Hey, Glad to see everyone back and I'm glad to be back. great posts earlier -I love the Mama Petrelli posts. Just a quick thought on Peter. What if S2 Peter is actually future Peter which would explain his enjoyment of the the darkside in Ireland.

I think that Peter seemed to enjoy the darkside because he was hanging out with the irish mob lol - and so he was going with the flow. Plus, since he didn't really remember his morals, he got a little carried away with the rush of his powers.

But Peter in my mind is the ultimate Bad guy. He is the best contrast to Sylar in regards to evil. Sylar wants power but Peter can take power whenever he wants from any hero that uses there power in his presents.

I think Future Peter will be a bit of a badguy this season - so you'll get some darkside Peter for a little bit at least. Sylar has evolved - so it WILL take Peter either stepping it up or Future Peter to kick him around - but with recent changes to Sylar, I don't know if Peter OR Sylar can actually be killed....... hahahahaha - be fun to see how that plays out.

Ok - THIS Future Peter is not the SAME Future Peter from before. He's not entirely guilt ridden - he's actually pretty solid and determined. He does have the scar, so that just might be in the cards for Peter no matter what. That being said - I do not think various Future Peter's keep coming back to change the past..... I think that if they do that trick too much that the viewers will beging to groan. It'll be a filler 'what that doesn't make senese, well Future Peter did it then...' yeah.... no. ;)

If Linderman is back as some sort of spirit-so what's the deal with Papa Petrelli. Mama has the dream power so what is Charles D. power.

we might discover what Charles power is. I know they reveal what Hiro's father's powers are on the extras for the S2 dvds.

Linderman is BACK - he's not a spirit, he's him. And he's got a plan ;) And what do you mean what's the deal with Pa Petrelli? Not seeing the tie-in here.

Hahahha - just thinking this as I'm typing about Linderman - even Linderman stayed out of S2 and waited for S3..... lol.......*sigh*

By the way any insight on Who scared Peter's face.

Like I said above, it might just be in the cards for Peter that he gets the scar one way or the other. Since he can heal, it would need to be something massive to leave the scar - so it would be interesting to find out more about it - but it might just be something we never find out this time around.

One thing they stressed at ComicCon was that they KNEW that they had a lot to make up for for S2 lacking - so they were bringing their game to the new season and they want the fans to know that they are back and that they mean business. :) So hopefully - they keep the ball rolling as strong as the first episode.

RedPhoenix23

08-11-2008, 05:21 PM

Oh damn!!!! I hope they make Claire interesting again though because she was seriously boring in S2. No. More. Highschool. *cringes* She should still go to school of course, but they don't have to actually show her at school. I like bad@ss action Claire like she was with Elle, not mopey emo Claire.

I hope this does mean that she's related to Kensei somehow as well. Maybe he could be her grandpa on FireMomma's side? Otherwise, I think it'd be creepy if she's not because Kensei would be all "ohhhh, you and me can live together forever my sweet little underage cheerleader." After, he gets dug up of course.... cuz' that's got to happen sometime.... right? Well, if Maya is back for season three then I demand for Adam/Kensei to be back as well damn it!

Ginx

08-12-2008, 10:21 AM

Don't think we've seen the last of Kensei ;) But he's not mentioned in the opener ;)

Superboy2

08-12-2008, 12:01 PM

He's supposed to be back. He is a villain and Volme 3 is titled Villains.

RedPhoenix23

08-12-2008, 02:41 PM

Well I hope so! I am just so nervous because we haven't heard anything about him in any of the spoilers. There's not even any promo shots of him. Wasn't David Anders promoted to series regular after his first three eps in S2? Not only is Adam/Kensei a bad@ss but with the revelation that Claire is "immortal" then it just seems like he's HAS to be back. Or at least mentioned for cripes sakes! :eek:

Superboy2

08-12-2008, 03:52 PM

He'll be back. He has to be.

RedPhoenix23

08-12-2008, 09:03 PM

Well, another reason I am worried is that EVERYONE whines that season two was so damn awful and Tim Kring swore to make it better... then add in the fact that Adam/Kensei was the big bad of that season... *cringes* Doesn't look good for him. :(

And I have a mentioned lately how much I hate Maya? :lol: Why must she make out with Mo?!!! Noooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! How does that even make sense for her character anyways? Shouldn't she be wary of men after Sylar off'd her brother like two days before? Or is the kiss like "4 months later" (or you know, some other time jump for story purposes) or something after the chaos what happened with Sylar, the virus, and company has calmed down a bit?

That might make the kiss a bit more bearable, just a bit because.... yeah, HATE HER lol. But maybe it's just a phobia or something but I am really uncomfortable with the idea of Adam buried alive and dying over and over for that long a period of time. God damn, that Hiro is one vengeful son of ah, nevermind. A few days is fine as it might teach his crazy behind a lesson (misbehave? then you're going back in the coffin!) but MONTHS or even YEARS? That's just wrong. Especially since the blackhole of screentime AKA Maya gets to walk around free and have makeout sessions with the SupaHot Mo. :p

Ginx

08-13-2008, 09:25 AM

Well, I didn't see them make out lol - so it's possible it's not her that's his fling ;) Seemed to me like S3 picked up right after S2 ended - not a big time gap.

Nothing would make that kiss bearable unless Mo broke her neck lol.... sorry a bit morbid of me ;)

I think that Kensei wasn't a bad character and that people didn't hate him per se - they just hated how he was thrown into the storyline and how Peter trusted him blindly - and how they never explained that much about his background. So I think that if they do it right that they can bring in kensei/adam and make him an ultimate baddie :) Which is what people were hopin' for anyway - they want villains and it looks like we're going to get some :)

RedPhoenix23

08-13-2008, 02:42 PM

Well, I didn't see them make out lol - so it's possible it's not her that's his fling ;) Seemed to me like S3 picked up right after S2 ended - not a big time gap.

One can hope.... but I could have sworn that I read somewheres that the actress says that plays Maya said her character gets sexy this season and starts up a romance. So if Mo' is kissin' on her if even for a breif second in the first ep then it's likely that it's only the first of many! No!!!! My eyes! My eyes! :eek:

Nothing would make that kiss bearable unless Mo broke her neck lol.... sorry a bit morbid of me ;)

Haha. We can dream can't we? :rotfl:

I think that Kensei wasn't a bad character and that people didn't hate him per se - they just hated how he was thrown into the storyline and how Peter trusted him blindly - and how they never explained that much about his background. So I think that if they do it right that they can bring in kensei/adam and make him an ultimate baddie :) Which is what people were hopin' for anyway - they want villains and it looks like we're going to get some :)

I don't know, he never felt thrown in to me and I know that I've said it before but it makes total sense that Peter would trust him for as long as he did. At first it was to "save the world" which we all saw how blindly he followed FutureHiro's mission statement to Save the Cheerleader. Save the World. in season one. Then when that wasn't enough anymore, Adam was then able to play on Peter's desire to save Caitlin from that effed up virus riden future. In character for Petey and total mastermind-esque of Adam. Good job.

What was bad, was the fact that the season got cut in half and the virus story got chucked. So we have all this drama surrounding it, that's now totally meaningless. Peter's big desire to save the future in order to save Caitlin is gone, so with that, ALL the horrible AmnesiaPeter Ireland scenes are useless. I doubt Caitlin will even be mentioned again. Hiro's big fuedel Japan storyline is mostly meaningless now too because his messing with the timeline is what was suspose to lead to the virus getting released. Blah, blah, etc. etc., I could go on but I am too lazy, lol. :p

Superboy2

08-13-2008, 02:47 PM

And now Hiro's love interest forgot her name is coming back. Yeako I think her name is.

RedPhoenix23

08-13-2008, 03:04 PM

Superboy2

08-13-2008, 05:13 PM

Yea he's a whiny moron. Hopefully he has more of a reason as to why he wants to end the world. He did have several wives and numerous children so how could he still be pissed about Yaeko?

RedPhoenix23

08-13-2008, 06:10 PM

What? Did you just insult my man? Oh it's on! :p

It is really time for Kensei to let Yeako go though. They never seemed to be that much in love to me anyways. If he's got to be pissed at Hiro then it just be because Hiro mucked up Kensei's big heroic moment in the sun and was the fist in a long line of peeps to betray him. Afterall, Otsu would have been saved if Hiro hadn't of messed things up. It's logical to think things like fighting the 90 angry ronin would have still happened without Hiro's help as well.

Ginx

08-14-2008, 09:42 AM

Yea he's a whiny moron. Hopefully he has more of a reason as to why he wants to end the world. He did have several wives and numerous children so how could he still be pissed about Yaeko?

lol - because he's selfish lol..... that's pretty obvious - he's got a lex luthor persona going on - that he needs to do this to 'save everyone' but he's really doing whatever he does out of massive fear and self gratification.

Which makes him a villain - lets hope they let him blossom and got crazy this season - got to be more to him than just his regen powers - he seems to be able to convince people to help him - omg his other power is 'puppy eyes' lol!!!!

either that or people are just stupid.... *cough*peter*cough* I hope that Future Peter brings back the Peter that we adore.

I don't see why Yaeko would be coming back? Does she have a power, did she piggy back with Hiro and he doesn't know it, reincarnation, does she have a phone booth that transports her to a different time.........Hiro should not go back and see her again..... that's just poor judgment and he already used up his poor judgment chip in the season opener.

RedPhoenix23

08-14-2008, 12:45 PM

Well he can be pretty convincing. I like that his manipulations of peeps isn't a "power" like Eden's or Matt's silly new power. Seriously, didn't just come off as "Please like Matt Parkman! Please! His power is cooler this season! See?! And aww, look how cute he is with Molly! Plus, hoyay! Who can resist the hoyay?! Now like him!" Dude, all they had to say was LIKE HIM OR ELSE YOU'LL GET MORE MAYA! MWUAHAHAHAHA!

Ginx

08-14-2008, 04:02 PM

Molly has been sent away to protect her in the beginning of this season so we might not be seeing her for a bit.

Brings to mind another good part of the opener - Matt vs. Peter with the mental showdown, it's a quick scene but Matt basically gets his butt handed to him by Future Peter and then he gets his butt kicked to some far away place and we have no idea where he is.......

RedPhoenix23

08-14-2008, 04:46 PM

How convineant for the plot that the one person that could quickly find all the level five escapees is sent packin' - especially BEFORE Peter has a chance to meet her and absorb her ability. :p

Uffr

08-14-2008, 04:49 PM

I don't see why. That storyline is finished. The freindship breakup with Hiro and Kensei because of one little kiss that Hiro profussly apologized for and swore wouldn't happen again was a lame plot anyways. I get why Kensei would be pissed at the time and throw such a temper tantraum but to still be so uberangry 330 (est) years later was pretty awful. Just focus on the fact that Adam truely thinks the best way to save the world is to destroy it. Let him be the evil villian that actually believe's that he's good, please Kring and company? Pretty please? With a cherry on top?

I don't really think that the kiss made him 'uberangry 330 (est) years later'. I just think it started his disgust with the human race as it is which was probably furtherd by all he saw over the last few centuries. Maybe everyone who lives that long eventually goes insane. Hard to say really.

RedPhoenix23

08-14-2008, 05:03 PM

I don't really think that the kiss made him 'uberangry 330 (est) years later'. I just think it started his disgust with the human race as it is which was probably furtherd by all he saw over the last few centuries. Maybe everyone who lives that long eventually goes insane. Hard to say really.

That's what I am hoping what they focus on when/if he returns because not only is it better for his character to be not so whiny over something he honestly should hardly even remember. But it could set the stage for some scary storylines for Future Claire and Future Peter because no matter how goody two shoes good they are now, in the future, they have the POTENTIAL to pull an Adam when the errors of the world is too much to bear for them any longer. Which would go with the theme that within every Hero lays a Villian.

Ginx

08-14-2008, 05:04 PM

How convineant for the plot that the one person that could quickly find all the level five escapees is sent packin' - especially BEFORE Peter has a chance to meet her and absorb her ability. :p

you lost me - who is sent packin?

it's been a long day lol.....

RedPhoenix23

08-14-2008, 05:17 PM

Molly! LOL

SV'S_immortal_hero

08-14-2008, 11:19 PM

something that struck me as odd is that with future peter coming back to shoot nathan just how did he know to come back at that time its not like sum1 was able to call him in the future to go back, and if future peter knew all along that nathan would make that decision to reveal his ability and threaten there superhuman kind why didnt future peter shoot nathan back in season 1 when the show started!!! kinda like season 1's motto "save the cheerleader, save the world"

Superboy2

08-15-2008, 01:56 AM

How could he be evil enough to kill his own brother? Or did he know his bro would survive by his past/current self healing him or whatever and knew it's like a chain event?

SV'S_immortal_hero

08-15-2008, 02:44 AM

How could he be evil enough to kill his own brother? Or did he know his bro would survive by his past/current self healing him or whatever and knew it's like a chain event?

i guess had nathan revealed to the world theres people in the world with abilities but lived in sercret in fear of prejudice of what would happen to them by normal people, maybe in future peters timeline the government took a stand against the superhumans thinking they were a disease due to nathans decision to reveal the truth to which then lead to innocent superhumans being hunted including peter

as for future peter if he knew current peter was with nathan at the conference who knows but id think had he knew he would have tried to incapacitate current peter from getting in the way of future peters attempt to kill nathan

christian_kryptonian

08-15-2008, 06:43 AM

This sounds complicated. I LOVE IT!

Ranroc

08-15-2008, 10:40 AM

I am just speculating from the video interviews and previews that I have seen and read. Nathan had a slip of the lip during an interview ion April of this year and stated Mama P had 3 children on the show with abilities. Now from the entertainment site and the preview of Angela standing over Sylar - giving him words of encouragement which have led others people in speculating that the other sibling is Sylar. I don't think so. Angela has never been high on Peter's leadership character but she loves her baby boy, probably not more than Nathan but Nathan dies at the end of every season (Why do they Kill Nathan every year and then bring him back-Just Straight Stupid on the writers part- Either Kill him off or let him live-Nathan is destined to die-but when?). Allow me to focus on the abvious - What if this 3rd child is Peter's twin or older brother/sister that Nathan mentioned. Could that explain why future Peter has a scare across his face. Just think about it for a second. Peter can regenerate but why couldn't he cure his wound bac to its original self. In the previews Peter is dark, focused, and determined. As you'll have speculated that Future Peter(FP) has come from the future as a bad guy to kill Nathan. Present Peter (PP) is still around. That means you have 2 Peters occupying the same space at the same time. If FP is truly one of the bad ones on the show for a portion of this season - I would have serious problems with the writers and Tim Kring. You cannot have a good and bad version of youself as the focus of the show-that would be a grave mistake. Reason why- they would ultimately have to square off against each other and FP could not defeat PP because he would kill himself in the process. Wierd but FP may not be really future Peter what if that individual has the same power as Peter but also, has Candice's power. Could this still be the person that Claude was protecting from the Company. Remember there is someelse out there that has the same ability as Peter.

Superboy2

08-15-2008, 12:30 PM

Plus there is the guy in prison that says I'm Peter Petrelli who's alot older and what not.

RedPhoenix23

08-15-2008, 02:22 PM

something that struck me as odd is that with future peter coming back to shoot nathan just how did he know to come back at that time its not like sum1 was able to call him in the future to go back,

There's a leaked vid on youtube that someone tapped during comicon during the first 15 minutes of the ep. On the vid it shows the dark future with Peter and Claire. Claire is all dark emo (and not whiny emo) and Peter says that everything went wrong when the world knew about their abilities, he says that he can go back to that day and fix everything. Claire is all dark and moody and decides to try and shoot Peter anyways.... well, try as Peter pauses time before the bullet hits him, snatches away her gun, and then teleports to the past anyways.

So clearly, Future Peter as already calculated the day and the moment he needs to change in order to change the crappy future. The day him (his Past Peter/ our Present Peter), Nathan, and Parkman snitched to the world that their were peeps born different with amazing abilities. He knows what day this is and when to go back because A.) He was there when it happened the first time, lol. and B.) If he forgot the exact day and time then I am sure it's no biggie because something as major as that press confress is sure to be public record.

and if future peter knew all along that nathan would make that decision to reveal his ability and threaten there superhuman kind why didnt future peter shoot nathan back in season 1 when the show started!!! kinda like season 1's motto "save the cheerleader, save the world"

IF and say IF, Future Peter wanted his brother dead then wouldn't dare try to do it at an earlier date or he's risking making things worse. Future Peter knows that Nathan can't be killed during the season one timeline because NATHAN was the one that saved the world that time. You know with the whole flying Peter away into the sky so that he wouldn't destroy the city and kill millions when he exploaded thing? And Future Peter couldn't kill him much earlier in the S2 timeline either because once again, NATHAN saves the day as Nathan is the only one that is able to get through to Peter before it's too late and Adam get's his way and releases the virus that would kill 93% of the worlds population within it's first year of being released alone.

How could he be evil enough to kill his own brother? Or did he know his bro would survive by his past/current self healing him or whatever and knew it's like a chain event?

I'm not sure, lol. It does seem like the easiest thing to do would be to pop back and warn Nathan not tell the world about them because however bad they thought the company was, the world at large itself is much more vast and dangerous. Think: Salem Witch Trials. Think: Spanish Inquisition. Yeah.... bad idea bro! :eek:

All I can really think of is the fact that even though he might be able to talk his brother down, there was always the risk that others were also thinking of coming foward with who they were and what they could. So to shoot Nathan while he was clearly trying to do just that, then it's likely that one act was suspose to put the fear of god into anyone else who might have the same idea.

Plus, we do know that Claire's blood can bring peeps back from the dead as it did with HRG when Mo shot him in the eye. So it's possible Future Peter knows that his blood has that amazing side effect as well so if he were to shoot and appear to kill Nathan, he knows Nathan wouldn't actually be "dead" for long.

Or Future Peter knew about that weird Linderman thing.... I am still not real sure on what's going on with that. Does Present Peter call on his empath ability to use Linderman's ability on Nathan and that's why Nathan thought he saw Linderman? Or is there something honest to god freaky going on with Linderman? Afterall, how else would Nikki get healed again if Linderman didn't do it? Dun! Dun! Dun!