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skully
07-04-2009, 12:08 AM
Episode 19 - Precipice - I can't stand Paul Hayden.

Episode 20 - Ageless - one of the more pointless filler episodes.

Episode 21 - Forever - continued the S4 trend of mixing stellar episodes with ordinary fillers.

Episode 22 - Doomsday - Easily the worst of all the Finales, although Arctic was also a little disappointing (but redeemed by Brainiac).

Devoted2CK
07-04-2009, 12:19 AM
19. Stiletto
20. Ageless
21. Forever
22. Doomsday

Dr. Walden
07-04-2009, 12:31 AM
Episode 19-Stiletto-Close between this one and Precipice. Neither contributed much. I chose Stiletto in the end because it was the first episode in a while that made me dislike Lois again (I disliked her a lot Seasons 4-7), while Precipice was just a stupid FOTW.

Episode 20-Ageless-I've gotta say, I LOVE the Genevieve/Lionel scenes, which people often overlook for the whole exploding baby thing. That being said, exploding baby.

Episode 21-Forever-My least favorite FOTW ever, to the point where it was painful. His motivations were so poorly written...just bad.

Episode 22-Doomsday-This one is not even close. Calling/Exodus, Covenant and Commencement are all amazing beyond words. Vessel got this one last year, but when paired with Zod, it's actually a pretty good story. Phantom didn't wrap up 33.1 or the Zoners arc as well as I would have liked, but Doomsday was just too terrible. After all that building towards Davis truly becoming Doomsday, there was about a 2 minute sequence with barely any action. And don't even get me started on Jimmy's death.

wildenchantress_kt
07-04-2009, 01:45 AM
Episode 13: S1 - Kinetic
Even though this was a Whitney centric episode which were very interesting the first season it kind of lost it's fun aspect once they started robbing Lex's mansion. Positive note: I really like the scene where Chloe interviewed Lex for the first time.

Episode 14: S6 - Trespass
Lana became the victim AGAIN. Did the writers have any good NEW ideas at this point. This was another attempt to rekindle the Clana relationship which in my opinion failed.

Episode 15: S2 - Prodigal
Meant to be a continuation of Lineage earlier in the season. Lex has a brother but it was new at this point. Let's think about all of Lex's so called brother's Baby Juilan, Clark, Lucas and Grant Juilan. By the time we had gotten to Gemini it was just YAWN worthy.

Nanda Lane
07-04-2009, 01:47 AM
Episode 19: Quest
Episode 20: Beast
Episode 21: Forever
Episode 22: Doomsday

marcella
07-04-2009, 05:16 AM
Episode 19: Quest
Episode 20: Arctic
Episode 21: Forever
Episode 22: Doomsday

Jaderoyale
07-04-2009, 06:20 AM
Episode 19 - Quest
Episode 20 - Ageless
Episode 21 - Accelerate (non of these episodes are THAT bad IMO, this just gets it by default.)
Episode 22 - Doomsday

costas22
07-04-2009, 07:36 AM
Episode 19 - Stiletto
Episode 20 - Ageless
Episode 21 - Forever
Episode 22 - Doomsday

tyson08
07-04-2009, 07:52 AM
Episode 19 - Mercy
Episode 20 - Ageless
Episode 21 - Accelerate
Episode 22 - Doomsday

Saph
07-04-2009, 08:07 AM
Episode 19: Precipice
Episode 20: Ageless
Episode 21: Forever
Episode 22: Doomsday

HeroesUnlimited
07-04-2009, 11:18 AM
One issue I had with Quest, although not enough to make me rate it worst episode was did we really need to see Chloe fly a jet to Montreal to save Clark? I think the Chloe saves Clark count in S7 was 3

Yeah, that was about the only part of the episode I didn't care for.

MrsK
07-04-2009, 12:02 PM
Episode 19: Precipice - Nice introduction of Sheriff Adams, but I didn't like the Andy Connors/lawsuit plot, and I really didn't like Paul Hayden.
Episode 20: Beast - I don't hate any of these, even Ageless! Beast just seemed to have the least going for it.
Episode 21: Forever - The plot of this one was just ridiculous, and I didn't like the wax effect. Loved the last scene, though, with Chloe taking down the Wall of Weird..
Episode 22: Doomsday - I didn't hate Doomsday as much as many, but it still the weakest of the bunch.

lana 9
07-04-2009, 12:07 PM
episode 19 quest
episode 20 noir
episode 21 injustice
episode 22 doomsday

Supsfan
07-04-2009, 12:18 PM
Episode 21: Forever - The plot of this one was just ridiculous, and I didn't like the wax effect. Loved the last scene, though, with Chloe taking down the Wall of Weird.

In terms of being ridiculous, which would you say is worse Ageless or Forever? Can't really disagree with you the freak was sort of lame in Forever, but after Ageless, Forever looks like a masterpiece. All that being said I don't know why they didn't get rid of one of Ageless or Forever and make the Season ender a 2 parter.

marcella
07-04-2009, 01:36 PM
I think Forever was worse than Ageless. Nothing save it

MrsK
07-04-2009, 08:22 PM
In terms of being ridiculous, which would you say is worse Ageless or Forever? Can't really disagree with you the freak was sort of lame in Forever, but after Ageless, Forever looks like a masterpiece. All that being said I don't know why they didn't get rid of one of Ageless or Forever and make the Season ender a 2 parter.


I think Forever was worse than Ageless. Nothing save it
You're right about the plot of Ageless; there was a lot not to like, but I just don't hate it as much as some do. I liked the Lex plot - his deviousness at the end was a hint of what he would become, and the scene with Clark and his parents talking about whether he could be a father was touching. Clark was proactive, and I even liked Clana in that episode.

I agree with marcella; Forever was simply worse in my opinion.

A 2-part season-ender in place of either one would have been great, though!

Supsfan
07-04-2009, 08:40 PM
You're right about the plot of Ageless; there was a lot not to like, but I just don't hate it as much as some do. I liked the Lex plot - his deviousness at the end was a hint of what he would become, and the scene with Clark and his parents talking about whether he could be a father was touching. Clark was proactive, and I even liked Clana in that episode.

I agree with marcella; Forever was simply worse in my opinion.

I generally like "happy" Clark epsiodes but there are a couple that no matter how happy and proactive Clark is I don't care for them for one reason or another. Ageless and Subterrean are 2 that really stand out in that reguard.

I think the Clana near the end of Season 4 - till Clark got his powers back in Season 5 was some of the most angst free Clana ever on the show but even that couldn't save the main premise of Ageless. If the producers want to do an episode showing Clana in a happy state there was many better ways they could have written it(hell they could have brought Emily back for a 3rd time, but this time she is like 50)

MrsK
07-04-2009, 08:54 PM
I'm with you on Subterranean - the only good things about that one were the funny scene at the end with Jimmy and Clark at the DP and the very last scene with Lex at 33.1 (Also Tom looked especially good in that ep, I thought). And I'm not saying Ageless was one of my favorite episodes, either. It was bad, I agree. Just not quite as bad as Forever.

Supsfan
07-04-2009, 11:32 PM
I'm with you on Subterranean - the only good things about that one were the funny scene at the end with Jimmy and Clark at the DP and the very last scene with Lex at 33.1 (Also Tom looked especially good in that ep, I thought). And I'm not saying Ageless was one of my favorite episodes, either. It was bad, I agree. Just not quite as bad as Forever.

One of my favorite things from Subterrean was the villians name, Jed McNally, makes me laugh everytime. As for Forever vs Ageless, I am currently watching the entire run of the show and am on Season 4, those 2 episodes are creeping up and I am not looking forward to it.

MrsK
07-04-2009, 11:38 PM
I'm on S4 as well, having just watched the entire third season while my family was on a camping trip this weekend. The good news is that there is something in every episode that makes it worth watching. :)

Supsfan
07-05-2009, 12:03 AM
I'm on S4 as well, having just watched the entire third season while my family was on a camping trip this weekend. The good news is that there is something in every episode that makes it worth watching. :)

Rewatching the first 3 3/4 seasons, I have to say Season 1 was way better then I remember it and S3 was a little over rated. Doing a revision of my fav seasons I move S1 from 7th spot to 2nd(Season 4 #1, Season 8 #3(great first half poor second half)).

Clark/Lois-fan
07-05-2009, 05:13 AM
19. Precipice
20. Arctic
21. Forsaken
22. Vessel

Night_Hawk90
07-05-2009, 12:41 PM
Blank
Noir
Forever
Doomsday

MrsK
07-05-2009, 01:38 PM
Rewatching the first 3 3/4 seasons, I have to say Season 1 was way better then I remember it and S3 was a little over rated. Doing a revision of my fav seasons I move S1 from 7th spot to 2nd(Season 4 #1, Season 8 #3(great first half poor second half)).

I have always loved the early seasons. I re-watch them every summer. S1 was actually quite good, and S2 had some really good episodes as well.

Supsfan
07-05-2009, 02:07 PM
I have always loved the early seasons. I re-watch them every summer. S1 was actually quite good, and S2 had some really good episodes as well.

I enjoy the show when it strays away from long storyarcs and for the most part Season 4, 1 and the beginning of 8 did that. I know Season 4 had the "stones" storyline but for the most part Clark wasn't involved in it and I just view all the episodes as 1 shot episodes about Clark and whatever he is doing there. I like 4 better then 1 simply because I prefer subtle hints of comedy intertwined in the storylines

MrsK
07-05-2009, 02:12 PM
What I love about the early seasons is how the different characters' storylines parallel each other in a single episode. There was some really good writing, even in some of the poorer episodes.

CallMeClark
07-05-2009, 04:30 PM
Episode 19 - Mercy

Episode 20 - Ageless

Episode 21 -Prototype

Episode 22 - Phantom

HeroesUnlimited
07-05-2009, 05:14 PM
What I love about the early seasons is how the different characters' storylines parallel each other in a single episode. There was some really good writing, even in some of the poorer episodes.

Agreed. Sometimes it was possible to look at an episode title (Lineage for example) and NOT know which character they're referring to (in that case, Clark or Lex).

9-SOSIHTWB
07-06-2009, 08:12 AM
Episode 19 - Crush
Episode 20 - Ageless
Episode 21 -Prototype
Episode 22 - Covenant

smallvillefreak24
07-06-2009, 08:29 AM
Episode 19 - Quest
Episode 20 - Fade
Episode 21 - Injustice
Episode 22 - Vessel

SGuthrie27
07-06-2009, 08:56 AM
There may need to be a tie-breaker for Episode #19 if someone else doesn't tip the scales soon -- eek!

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

RaniaLovesClois
07-06-2009, 12:23 PM
Episode 19: Precipice
Episode 20: Ageless
Episode 21: Forever
Episode 22: Doomsday

Supsfan
07-06-2009, 02:02 PM
There may need to be a tie-breaker for Episode #19 if someone else doesn't tip the scales soon -- eek!

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

Percipice and ?

If that's the case change my vote from Mercy to Percipice, I didn't really care for either and Percipice might be worse, I just find Mercy to be overrated in these parts and threw a vote that way

SGuthrie27
07-06-2009, 02:19 PM
It was between "Precipice" and "Quest," but if Rania's vote is the last one, it might not be a problem. I'll keep your offer in mind, though, Supsfan.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

smallvillefreak24
07-07-2009, 08:29 AM
come on!! gotta be quest

SGuthrie27
07-07-2009, 10:55 AM
And now, without further ado, folks, I present to you the amazing, awe-inspiring, astonishing list of episodes which have won the coveted crown of the Anti-Episode Wars -- The Worst of All Seasons award!!! Brought to you in part by SGuthrie27 and the creative genius of DrWalden. Let's look at and analyze the results, shall we? :D

Anti-Episode Wars Winners -- these episodes have been declared "The Worst of All Seasons":

Episode 1) "Vortex" - So Lana got sucked into a tornado, Lex shot Roger Nixon, and the Chlark romance hit an abrupt roadblock and deflated faster than a blimp shot by a cruise missile, while Clark's ship plopped down in a random cornfield. All these things combined still couldn't serve to make this episode better than any of the other season premieres.

Episode 2) "Metamorphosis" - There must be something pretty off-putting about a guy who molts his skin in the shower using steel wool, kills his own mother with web spewed out of his mouth, and getting crushed under a heavy piece of equipment, releasing a skittering swarm of little green bugs. Eww.

Episode 3) "Fierce" - Somehow, the concept of FOTW beauty queens having a smackdown over a historic time capsule ended up being worse than the hideous shipper-fest with Lexana nastiness that was "Wither." Will wonders never cease?

Episode 4) "Devoted" - Despite the overall cuteness of Chloe dancing around in a cheerleading outfit, the concept of a Kryptonite-Gatorade love potion did make this a rather lame episode. And I can't say I was particularly thrilled with Clark's brush-off of Chloe's feelings by episode's end either. I'm sure Clois fans didn't like it that Lois was leaving for three episodes either. Some good laughs, but still lots not to care for about this episode.

Episode 5) "Thirst" - A pizza boy getting devoured in a hot tub, Lana turning into a vampire, and an entire sorority wanting to sacrifice Clark as one of their undead rituals... this episode is truly deserving of its win, in spite of Chloe's acceptance into the Daily Planet and a guest appearance by Carrie Fisher as Pauline Kahn.

Episode 6) "Redux" - Chrissy Parker sucked the life out of boys to retain her youth and to repeat her glorious trek through the high school hierarchy ad infinitum. The A Plot of this episode managed to suck out any interesting and endearing qualities it may have had in the introduction of Martha's father, William Clark (not the famed explorer) and Principal Reynolds, neither of whom were seen again, making this even more of a throw-away episode than it was in the first place.

Episode 7) "Craving" - Girl meets boy. Girl wants to lose weight. Girl drinks meteor rock shake. Girl sucks the fat from roadkill deer and a bullying basketball player. Girl gets super-thin and drinks more shake. Girl binge-eats and tries to suck the fat from Pete instead of being his date to Lana's birthday party. Even though the girl is Amy Adams, adorable star of "Enchanted," it's not enough to make this episode anything but cannon fodder for this contest.

Episode 8) "Static" - Oooh, so a random FOTW escapes from 33.1 and can travel through alternate frequencies -- why don't any of the X-Men have such a "cool" power? Lana is pregnant -- shocker! And a Phantom Zone escapee yanks out people's spines and eats their bone marrow! Not even a cameo appearance from the Martian Manhunter could be enough to make this episode even tolerable. Yuck.

Episode 9) "Subterranean" - Jed McNally is a farmer who uses illegal immigrants as his illegal labor force, and then becomes a FOTW groundhog that buries them alive if they disobey. Plus, Clark reunites one of said illegal immigrants with his mom and explains to Mama Kent that he's an illegal alien, too. Yeah. That's actually the plot of this episode. Any questions as to why it ended up here? Good.

Episode 10) "Fanatic" - All the head-shaving action, Lex-obsessing, and attempted-assassination of senator-to-be Jonathan Kent wasn't enough to make this episode the least bit interesting for most fans, as evidenced by the fact that it pretty much trounced the competition. Yes, "Fanatic," you are elected as a worst episode, and you didn't even have to get any campaign contributions from big businesses!

Episode 11) "Lockdown" - Lexana looooove starts a brewing when the pair are trapped in his panic room by a couple of deranged, poor deputies who everyone thinks have gone nutso (they actually have) when they blab about Nam-Ek and Aethyr's arrival in Smallville. Oh, and they shoot beloved Sheriff Adams. That alone is enough to make this episode worthy of getting loads of votes.

Episode 12) "Reckoning" - Just barely edging out tough competition from "Fracture" and "Bulletproof," and with fierce rivalry from outstanding other episodes in this category, it's unclear exactly what caused "Reckoning" to end up winning. Perhaps it was Jonathan Kent's sad, tragic death that made it a woeful episode. Maybe it was the twist that Lana-haters got to see her killed off, but then were cheated by her return a few minutes later. Or it's possible it could be that this episode sparked another "Woe is me, life is horrible, it's all my fault"-fest for Clark, which got annoying around Season 2. Whatever the case, I reckon that "Reckoning" may have earned its spot here after all.

Episode 13) "Power" - Go, go, Power Lanaaaaaa! Somehow, the Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers theme song always pops into my head when I think of this episode -- and yeah, it was just about as awful and corny as that series (sorry if I offended any MMPR fans with that statement, LOL). Lana goes on a crazy power-hungry trip, is lauded by the entire rest of the cast, and hooks up with Clark for a kiss on the roof of the Daily Planet (known to some as sacred Clois territory), and makes Clark question whether he really needs to be as vigilant in his heroic mission. Does anybody wonder why this episode handily won this round?

Episode 14) "Requiem" - Requiem is defined as a Mass for the repose of the souls of the dead, or a sad song with the same characteristics, and this episode, featuring plenty of horrifying Clana, a nasty krypto-kiss, Oliver going to "the dark side," and faux-Lex getting blown up, matches that definition pretty much perfectly. Most viewers thought Season 8's progress was pretty much "dead" in the water too, after seeing this ridiculousness.

Episode 15) "Resurrection" - Not even stealing Jonathan's liver would be enough to revive this bland and blah episode that only served to sluggishly advance the Adam Knight mid-season plotline, kill off Dr. Teng, who I thought was pretty cool, and show us that kryptonite can even be used to power bombs. Who cares?

Episode 16) "Hypnotic" - You want to like this episode... you really want to like this episode! Nope, I can't even be hypnotized to like this lame, sappy Clana break-up episode, even if it does feature the return of Milton Fine as Brainiac. 'Nuff said.

Episode 17) "Sleeper" - Jimmy Olsen is a cufflink-dart shooting, retina-scanning, ventilation-shaft-crawling secret agent man that can pull off some fancy-pants dance moves with his Chloelicious, who has been accused of breaching domestic security through her many hacking exploits into government databases. Apparently this "yeah, but whaaaaaa?" plot was enough of a snooze-fest to make it the second-most-voted-for episode of the entire competition.

Episode 18) "Eternal" - As I always say about this episode, the only thing eternal about it, other than Doomsday's life after getting a kryptonite shower, was that it was "eternally full of plot holes." Davis landed on Earth the same day as Clark and hatched from a Kryptonian hodge-podge DNA goo egg? Lionel wrote an illustrated storybook about said incident, complete with an accurate drawing of Clark's ship? Lionel basically all but confirmed his suspicions that Clark was the Traveler way back around the time of the first meteor shower, and didn't do anything about it for a dozen or so year? Yeah, that's believable, Smallville. Way to shoot continuity full of enough holes to make it look like Swiss cheese.

Episode 19) "Precipice" - Winning by only a single point, this episode features Dr. Helen Bryce getting beat to a bloody pulp by a psychotic, stalker of an ex-boyfriend, dorky drunk jocks hitting on Lana and threatening to sue Clark for fake injuries, and Lana herself training to become a ninja warrior! Well, actually it was just self-defense techniques from Lex Luthor, but still, it was pretty silly.

Episode 20) "Ageless" - A deadbeat dad-to-be leaves his glowing-tummy pregnant teen girl friend to blow up when she gives birth to the rapidly aging, also-eventually-blowing-up baby Evan, who only serves to try and shove a revived Clana relationship down our throats. And they thought we'd like this episode... why?

Episode 21) "Forever" - A FOTW is so obsessed with preserving the high school experience that he creates an amazingly detailed scale replica of portions of it in a warehouse, abducts Chloe, Lana, and various extras, and turns them into wax mannequins if they refuse to go along with his little high school everlasting drama. This episode may forever be declared as worst among its challengers in this category for sheer lameness of plot.

Episode 22) "Doomsday" - In honor of the general horror of this episode, I have decided to do a spoof of a much-loved Wizard of Oz song...
Ding-dong, Clark Kent's dead!
Who else is dead?
Davis Bloome is dead!
Ding-dong, Jimmy Olsen is dead, toooooo!
Ding-dong
The Doomsday fight's 2 seconds long
Lex is gone
The plots all wrong
Jimmy's name is Henry -- don, don, DOONNNNNNN!!!!
This ep's gone where dead FOTW's go,
Below, below, below,
Yo-ho,
Where'd Lois go with the ring?
I don't want to sing, oh...
Ding-dong, not-so-merry oh!
Chloe's full of woe,
Clark has to go,
You already know
That the Doomsday ep is DEEEEAAAAAAD!!!!!"
Thank you, thank you, no need for applause. Oh, all right, I'd like to thank the Academy... Just kidding. But it must've been pretty bad to have inspired that... :p

So there you have it, folks! The worst of all seasons as declared on the 7th of July, 2009 A.D., by the citizens of Kryptonsite as representative of the most hideous episodes Smallville has had to offer! Now feel free to go rewatch them all back-to-back for the remainder of the day. Enjoy, and see you next year, for another round of...

ANTI-EPISODE WARS... THE WORST OF ALL SEASONS!!!!!!!

Thank you, and good night!

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

skully
07-07-2009, 11:01 AM
Hehehe, nice work SG. Thanks for hosting the latest round. :)

MrsK
07-07-2009, 11:06 AM
Great recap, SG! Thanks so much for all your hard work on this thread this year!

SGuthrie27
07-07-2009, 11:11 AM
Aww, thanks, skully and MrsK! I appreciate the encouragement! I've really enjoyed running this round of the competition, and hope to do the same next year around this same time! Thanks so much to all who participated and made it a success!!!

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

MrsK
07-07-2009, 11:16 AM
I'm curious - What got more votes than Sleeper? Power?

SGuthrie27
07-07-2009, 11:18 AM
Actually, surprisingly enough (or perhaps not), "Doomsday" was the worst. :p

--SGuthrie ><>' :)-

Jaderoyale
07-07-2009, 11:30 AM
I'm horrified with S4. IMO that should have been Ageless.

skully
07-07-2009, 11:49 AM
Actually, surprisingly enough (or perhaps not), "Doomsday" was the worst. :p

--SGuthrie ><>' :)-A no-brainer I thought. :)

Supsfan
07-07-2009, 01:33 PM
I'm horrified with S4. IMO that should have been Ageless.

Well Ageless did go up against Beast which took some of it's thunder(I dislike both myself, although Ageless was still the easy pick)

costas22
07-07-2009, 02:34 PM
Thanks for everything SGuthrie! Awesome job!

Jlvsclrk
07-07-2009, 03:24 PM
Great work SGuthrie! That was so much fun, though I think poor Vortex deserves a little asterisk or something.

So we have a winner from every season, with an astonishing 5 from season 5 - I do adore that season but have to admit that of Thirst, Lockdown, Fanatic, Reckoning and Hynotic, only Reckoning is the only one I'd go out of my way to watch.

Jaderoyale
07-07-2009, 03:31 PM
Well Ageless did go up against Beast which took some of it's thunder(I dislike both myself, although Ageless was still the easy pick)

IMO Ageless is one of the worst SV episodes ever.

Jlvsclrk
07-07-2009, 03:40 PM
IMO Ageless is one of the worst SV episodes ever.

You could well be right. As angry as Beast made me, at least it was an intesting idea. An exploding baby used to shoehorn Clana back together - ugh.

Tispower
07-07-2009, 03:51 PM
You could well be right. As angry as Beast made me, at least it was an intesting idea. An exploding baby used to shoehorn Clana back together - ugh.

Agreed!

Glad Power and Requiem were in there lol

rockyshadow
07-07-2009, 04:01 PM
Thanks for everything SGuthrie! Awesome job!

I agree thanks for reviving this. It was so much fun.:)

Supsfan
07-07-2009, 04:17 PM
You could well be right. As angry as Beast made me, at least it was an intesting idea. An exploding baby used to shoehorn Clana back together - ugh.


IMO Ageless is one of the worst SV episodes ever.

While I agree with both of you, I can see people's reasoning for disliking Beast. It seems like episode 20 is one of those that there is alot of good contenders for the worst episode.

In case of Ageless vs Beast for me it comes down to

the ridiculous exploding Baby story

vs

Clark lite episode with Chlavis storyline I could care less about that verges on the "dark" angsty side

Jaderoyale
07-07-2009, 04:20 PM
While I agree with both of you, I can see people's reasoning for disliking Beast. It seems like episode 20 is one of those that there is alot of good contenders for the worst episode.

In case of Ageless vs Beast for me it comes down to

the ridiculous exploding Baby story

vs

Clark lite episode with Chlavis storyline I could care less about that verges on the "dark" angsty side

I just reread the results :lol:
I randomly thought Ageless didn't win :\ Hence my outrage :lol:

But um. Exploding/ageing baby everytime. Lmao.

Supsfan
07-07-2009, 04:26 PM
I just reread the results :lol:
I randomly thought Ageless didn't win :\ Hence my outrage :lol:

But um. Exploding/ageing baby everytime. Lmao.

I have to agree. I rate Ageless the third worst episode ever on the show(behind Power and Promise). You can probably add Trespass, Requiem and Traveler to the list of episodes that I really hate(sadly those last 3 all fell in the #14 spot so I could only vote 1)

smallvillefreak24
05-17-2010, 08:33 AM
when are the wars starting again?

super_j_man
05-17-2010, 03:40 PM
Jeff (SGuthrie27) is working on it. He'll probably start it up sometime when Ryan (vyperman7) starts the Episode Wars Best of all Seasons.

SGuthrie27
05-17-2010, 04:48 PM
Yep -- you'd better believe I'll be starting it up -- and soon! :D

skully
05-17-2010, 04:59 PM
Excellent work, boys. Should keep us busy in the hiatus. :D

SGuthrie27
05-17-2010, 07:01 PM
You betcha! :)

SGuthrie27
05-22-2010, 01:02 PM
Update: Since Ryan (vyperman7) is starting his Episode Wars on June 1st (which is my last day of work before my summer break), it's only fitting that I start the Anti-Episode Wars that day, too! Look for it the evening of Tuesday, June 1st, coming to a K-Site near you! :D

skully
05-22-2010, 02:21 PM
Man, we are gonna be busy!!! :D

LordOnox
05-22-2010, 03:08 PM
I can't wait!!:)

Supsfan
05-22-2010, 03:12 PM
worst is definantly more fun then best because I prefer complaining about what I hate more then talking about what I like. lol

skully
05-22-2010, 03:16 PM
Hehehe, "glass half empty" type, ay Sups? :D

marcella
05-22-2010, 05:21 PM
I can't wait! it's easier to say why I hate an episode:lol:

SGuthrie27
05-22-2010, 09:53 PM
Man, we are gonna be busy!!! :D

You betcha! But it'll be a good type of busy! I can't wait!!!! :)

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I can't wait!!:)

LOL -- me, neither! Glad you're on board for this game with us, Matt!

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worst is definantly more fun then best because I prefer complaining about what I hate more then talking about what I like. lol

LOL! :lol: Complaining can be really fun, and I like to try to throw in some humorous descriptions of the episodes now and then, which I may do here, just for laughs, and to poke fun at the sillier elements of Smallville, which may be really hard for some episodes since so many of them are top notch!

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I can't wait! it's easier to say why I hate an episode:lol:

Hehehe, glad you're going to participate again, too, Marcella! :)

Supsfan
05-23-2010, 12:04 AM
LOL! :lol: Complaining can be really fun, and I like to try to throw in some humorous descriptions of the episodes now and then, which I may do here, just for laughs, and to poke fun at the sillier elements of Smallville, which may be really hard for some episodes since so many of them are top notch!

Anytime I can spew venom about what I hate about certain episodes, I am game(especially episodes I generally disagree with the majority which is alot)

costas22
05-23-2010, 12:27 AM
Count me in for some negativity. :D

skully
05-23-2010, 12:33 AM
Haters paradise!!!!! :rotfl:

Clark/Lois-fan
05-23-2010, 12:45 AM
Update: Since Ryan (vyperman7) is starting his Episode Wars on June 1st (which is my last day of work before my summer break), it's only fitting that I start the Anti-Episode Wars that day, too! Look for it the evening of Tuesday, June 1st, coming to a K-Site near you! :D

Wohoo I can't wait! I don't think I've played the Anti-Episode Wars! :D

Pali
05-23-2010, 02:05 AM
Originally Posted by Supsfan http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6390853#post6390853)
worst is definantly more fun then best because I prefer complaining about what I hate more then talking about what I like. lol :lol:

You are opposite of me. I usually see some redeming qualities even in generally hated episodes coughPowercoughRequiemcoughHypnoticcough

I don´t like to complain about episodes, but I´ll probably join this game and will go against main"hate"stream :lol:
And of course it should be fun with Jeff´s description of worst episodes

skully
05-23-2010, 02:06 AM
I agree Pali. I don't hate any episode of Smallville.

I find some more boring than others but as you say, every epi has some redeeming qualities. :)

Supsfan
05-23-2010, 02:20 AM
I agree Pali. I don't hate any episode of Smallville.

There is like 10-11 episodes I truly hate(amazingly 3 of them are the 14th episode of the season) then there is another group of 20 or so that I dislike for the most part, then a group of 10 I find subpar.

There is only 2 episodes I have to grasp at straws to find anything good(Promise - the Shelby scene and Power - the Tess plot was ok)

SGuthrie27
05-23-2010, 07:48 AM
Anytime I can spew venom about what I hate about certain episodes, I am game(especially episodes I generally disagree with the majority which is alot)

LOL -- I'm like that on a few episodes, myself, so I may join you on occasion!

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Count me in for some negativity. :D

Rock, on Costas! :)

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Wohoo I can't wait! I don't think I've played the Anti-Episode Wars! :D

Really?! Well then, welcome aboard, Kim -- it's quite the fun-filled experience! :D

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:lol:

You are opposite of me. I usually see some redeming qualities even in generally hated episodes coughPowercoughRequiemcoughHypnoticcough

I don´t like to complain about episodes, but I´ll probably join this game and will go against main"hate"stream :lol:
And of course it should be fun with Jeff´s description of worst episodes

LOL, Pali -- very subtle, there, though I have to agree that those particular three episodes are very worthy contenders for this game! :D And thanks for the compliment, and for joining us, too!

super_j_man
05-23-2010, 10:42 AM
:lol:

You are opposite of me. I usually see some redeming qualities even in generally hated episodes coughPowercoughRequiemcoughHypnoticcough

I don´t like to complain about episodes, but I´ll probably join this game and will go against main"hate"stream :lol:
And of course it should be fun with Jeff´s description of worst episodes


I agree Pali. I don't hate any episode of Smallville.

I find some more boring than others but as you say, every epi has some redeeming qualities. :)

To me in the earlier seasons, whenever there was a bad meteor freak episode it had a good B plot to it. In the later seasons, the B plots were getting bad (around season 6 & 7) but IMO started getting better recently (season 8 & 9). When the B plot is bad there is not much redeemable about the episode. In seasons 1-3, there isn't any episode that I find awful. But after that......well....:p

Supsfan
05-23-2010, 12:05 PM
LOL -- I'm like that on a few episodes, myself, so I may join you on occasion!

Well there is a few episodes I loathe that people seem to like. Promise being the biggest one, I never seen anybody say it's a great story they always have some wierd reason like how it's great we have 3 points of view, wonderful camera work, great acting, etc. Promise is my pick for worst episode of the series(and I am not going over the top to try make it worse then it is, I honestly rather rewatch any episode including Ageless or Power then Promise). My other episodes I seem to have a huge difference in opinion on are Traveler(I just think Clark being stuck in a cage was an idiotic plotline, but even worse they totally botched up Kara getting saved in that episode which pisses me off more because if the writers cared about Clark he would have been the person who does it), I also dislike the whole Calling-Exile run(not quite hate like the above 2 episodes) which seems to get alot of support on the positive side because I felt it was character assination for Clark and just a whole lot of unneeded drama for the sake of making Drama.


To me in the earlier seasons, whenever there was a bad meteor freak episode it had a good B plot to it. In the later seasons, the B plots were getting bad (around season 6 & 7) but IMO started getting better recently (season 8 & 9). When the B plot is bad there is not much redeemable about the episode. In seasons 1-3, there isn't any episode that I find awful. But after that......well....:p

I have to agree with this a good b plot can save an episode. I personally think that Ageless and Obscura are 2 of the dumbest A plots in the series, the b plot saves Obscurea though(which I rate about 30-35th worst), while I believe Ageless is the 3rd worst episode of the series. I do think S1 though is the only season that b plotlines are flawless for the most part, there is many episodes in S2+3 that I find don't have strong B plotlines(S2 generally aren't terrible, but S3 is the season I found b storylines started to get bad(Jonathon's health problems, Adam Knight) and it just got worse from there)

marcella
05-23-2010, 12:50 PM
I rewatched Power today..I still hate it:lol:

Supsfan
05-23-2010, 12:59 PM
I rewatched Power today..I still hate it:lol:

When I rewatched Power last summer, I realized the Tess plot wasn't bad, which dropped it to my second least favorite episode behind Promise.

marcella
05-23-2010, 01:01 PM
^Yeah, the Tess plot was cool. The main reason why I hate it is because of what happens after the scene Lana catches that bullet. Everything after that was crap.

super_j_man
05-23-2010, 05:17 PM
I have to agree with this a good b plot can save an episode. I personally think that Ageless and Obscura are 2 of the dumbest A plots in the series, the b plot saves Obscurea though(which I rate about 30-35th worst), while I believe Ageless is the 3rd worst episode of the series. I do think S1 though is the only season that b plotlines are flawless for the most part, there is many episodes in S2+3 that I find don't have strong B plotlines(S2 generally aren't terrible, but S3 is the season I found b storylines started to get bad(Jonathon's health problems, Adam Knight) and it just got worse from there)

I personally will take S3's Adam Knight over S4's Jason Teague. In fact I actually liked Adam's story line. Of course, there's not much about season 3 I don't like.

Supsfan
05-23-2010, 06:06 PM
I personally will take S3's Adam Knight over S4's Jason Teague. In fact I actually liked Adam's story line. Of course, there's not much about season 3 I don't like.

While Adam Knight was better then Jason Teague, to me that is like saying I rather eat broccoli then liver, fact is both don't add anything positive to either season. I would argue Jason Teague actually was better because for the most part his character kept Lana away from Clark for the bulk of S4(now that to me is a positive).

It's basically a case which is better

A crappy storyline that allows Lana still to be involed with Clark having stories full of angst or a Crappier storyline which takes Lana out of other storylines making them more enjoyable.


Of course, there's not much about season 3 I don't like.

I generally don't get the love of S3. To me it was a terrible Clark season

1) S3 was the first season Clark started getting shoved to the background for season long storyarcs

2) Clark seemed to have personal issues with every character on the show(Lex, Lana, Pete and Chloe) making his storyarc depressing and angsty

3) "it's all my fault" Clark which resulted of the stupidity of his dad just not picking up a piece of Green K in Exile, sadly that storyline popped up to many times during the season

I always say S3 was a great season for Lex, Lionel and Chloe fans but I don't really see how S3 was great for Clark myself, yet it generally seems to be a favorite for many

RaniaLovesClois
05-25-2010, 12:40 AM
Yay, great! Count me in too! :D

super_j_man
06-01-2010, 03:12 PM
With the Episode Wars underway, shall we commence the Anti-Episode Wars? I hope Jeff doesn't mind I start it without him. I'll use the same time frame as Episode Wars:

Episodes 1-3 - This round will last for three days going from June 1st -June 4th @ 8pm PST

* Please remember to highlight all choices in black so it makes it easier to see what your choices are.

Episode 1

S1 - Pilot
S2 - Vortex
S3 - Exile
S4 - Crusade
S5 - Arrival
S6 - Zod
S7- Bizarro
S8 - Odyssey
S9 - Savior

Episode 2

S1 - Metamorphosis
S2 - Heat
S3 - Phoenix
S4 - Gone
S5 - Mortal
S6 - Sneeze
S7 - Kara
S8- Plastique
S9 - Metallo

Episode 3

S1- Hothead
S2- Duplicity
S3- Extinction
S4- Facade
S5- Hidden
S6- Wither
S7 - Fierce
S8 - Toxic
S9 - Rabid

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My choices:
Episode 1: Odyssey
Episode 2: Sneeze
Episode 3: Facade

Odyssey wasn't terrible, it just didn't excite me like the other season premieres did.

All the episodes under the episode 2 list have redeemable qualities in them, but Sneeze had the fewest. Loved Clark learning a new power, but what an unflattering way to do it.

Until the Power/Requiem crapfest combo, Facade was to me one of the WORST episodes of SV ever (next to Void). Lois attending SV High did not help matters much either. Fierce is a CLOSE second.

costas22
06-01-2010, 03:26 PM
Episode 1: Savior
Episode 2: Metamorphosis
Episode 3: Wither

marcella
06-01-2010, 03:36 PM
Episode 1: Vortex
Episode 2: Metamorphosis
Episode 3: Wither

super_j_man
06-01-2010, 03:39 PM
ahh.....Metamorphosis I actually find to be very underrated. Take away the grossness and the creepiness, it was actually a really good season 1 episode. Lex and Lana meet for the first time (sorta), the whole scarecrow ordele was revealed to Lana and the final fight was actually not a disappointment and one of the better fights of the series.

marcella
06-01-2010, 03:41 PM
ahh.....Metamorphosis I actually find to be very underrated. Take away the grossness and the creepiness, it was actually a really good season 1 episode. Lex and Lana meet for the first time (sorta), the whole scarecrow ordele was revealed to Lana and the final fight was actually not a disappointment and one of the better fights of the series.

The problem is...the main thing I remember from Metamorphosis is the bug buy stuff:lol:

Only that takes away 10 points of this episode:p

costas22
06-01-2010, 03:44 PM
I can still hear Pete saying "Aah, disgusting".:lol:

Supsfan
06-01-2010, 04:09 PM
Episode 1: Exile

Pure crap episode. I didn't care for it much the first time around but gets more annoying over time where you constantly see Clark put into situations where he hates his life and blames himself for everything. It's like he learned absolutely nothing from this episode which made it pointless. The use of Jor-El to cause "drama" in the series is a pet peeve of mine and no other episode(s) highlighted this as much as Calling - Exile.

Episode 2: Metamorphasis

Don't hate this episode, it's just a case of it's a victim of a group of fairly good episodes and one needs to be picked. There is about 3-4 others I could have easily picked

Episode 3: Hidden

Another victim of slot it's placed in but it sort of stands out becuase as much as I liked the first 30 minutes of the episode, I thought the last 10 minutes sucked. Yet another case of Jor-El coming in an causing unneeded "drama". Would have prefered if the show allowed Clark to somehow come to the realization he needs his powers and he gets them back on his own accord, as opposed to him dieing and Jor-El killing somebody in his place later in the season and Clark blaming himself for all the world's wrongs.

None of the above mentioned episodes deserve honorable mentions since I liked the group of 27 episodes as a whole(save Exile)

LordOnox
06-01-2010, 04:11 PM
Episode 1: Vortex
Episode 2: Metamorphosis
Episode 3: Fierce

MrsK
06-01-2010, 04:41 PM
Episode 1: Vortex - Absolutely nothing wrong with this episode; it is just the least memorable in a strong field. The conversation between Clark and Jonathan about flying in the tornado was great; Chloe moping that Clark left her at the dance, not so much. Good scenes between Nixon and Jonathan, and Clark and Lex too.

Episode 2: Metamorphosis - I don't hate this episode, either. There are a lot of strong second episodes. The whole bug-boy thing didn't work so well for me - Greg was one of my least favorite meteor freaks, and also the first of many Lana-stalkers. Good moments between Clark, Chloe, and Pete, though.

Episode 3: Wither - Episode 3 is a much weaker category. Fierce was pretty bad, but Wither, with Lex and Lana taking their relationship to the next level while Clark moped in the loft, was just about as bad as it gets. Plus, the special effects with Gloria's vines were some of the worst in the series. And there was some poor editing that made a couple of Chloe's lines make absolutely no sense. Hothead would be my third choice.

rockyshadow
06-01-2010, 05:01 PM
Episode 1 Exile
Episode 2 Mortal
Episode 3 Hidden

Supsfan
06-01-2010, 05:26 PM
Episode 1 Exile

sweet at times I feel like I am alone in my hate(or even dislike) for this episode

SparkleforSmallville
06-01-2010, 05:35 PM
Episode 1: Vortex
Episode 2: Metamorphosis
Episode 3: Hothead

BadToad
06-01-2010, 07:35 PM
Episode 1: Savior
Episode 2: Plastique
Episode 3: Fierce

SGuthrie27
06-01-2010, 08:10 PM
Thanks, Jess, for starting things off! I was going to release my own unflattering descriptions of each episode just for fun to begin things but... I'll go ahead and put them here, LOL -- sort of like ranty mini-SGuthrie reviews for (hopefully) your reading pleasure. After them, I'll share my picks for worst epi for each position...

Episode 1

S1 - Pilot - Clark Kent learns he’s an alien from a faraway planet with amazing super-powers, but spends most of his Homecoming dance strung up in his boxers in the middle of a cornfield with an “S” spray painted on his chest. Yep, that’s years of therapy waiting to happen.
S2 - Vortex - Clark prevents Lana from getting her comeuppance for not knowing she should dive down in a ditch rather than racing into a truck in the middle of a tornado, Chloe begins a season’s worth of moping, pining, and generally whining because she doesn’t have Clark’s affections, and Lionel joins the Three Blind Mice in terms of his visual status.
S3 - Exile - The teen who will one day be Superman spends his summer robbing ATM machines, being chased by cops, flirting with chicks for kicks, and ripping his shirt open inside phone booths... and that’s when he’s not yelling at his friends and family. Yup, that just screams, “Truth, Justice, and the American Way.”
S4 - Crusade - Lois “Nicotine Gum Addict” Lane arrives in town to investigate her *sniff* cousin Chloe’s supposed death, but instead spends most of her time taking care of an amnesiac and naked Clark Kent, who showed up in the middle of a cornfield, and flies. Plus, Margot Kidder reveals a new type of kryptonite that seems to have pretty limited applications, and Lana gets a mysterious tattoo after touching the crypt of a dead French countess in Paris. Yeah, it’s as weird as it sounds.
S5 - Arrival - Clark and Lana hook up... again. Jor-El pulls the rug out from under Clark... again. Jonathan and Martha’s lives are briefly in peril... again. Set against the backdrop of the second meteor shower’s aftermath and the Disciples of Zod running amok, there’s not too much negative stuff I can say about this episode.
S6 - Zod - And another chance at pure, blissful Chlarky romance gets flushed down the tubes just when things started to look good! Stupid Jimmy Olsen (rest in peace). And this starts the cringe-worthy Lexana arc, which you just KNOW can’t be a good thing...
S7- Bizarro - Clark’s evil twin (actually the last Phantom Zone escapee) likes barbecuing good samaritans and breaking dams for sport. Other than that, he’s a really nice guy. :p
S8 - Odyssey - Clark loses his powers for the umpteenth time, the Justice League reappears and does... not all that much, really, but it’s more screentime and better action than Doomsday, at least. Oh, and this Tess Mercer lady shows up as a new series regular... but who cares about that, really? ;)
S9 - Savior - Clark fights a blue eyed Kandorian ninja chick from the future who had his father’s watch, Oliver’s hanging out, drunk as a skunk, in fight clubs, and Chloe gets like 2.5 seconds of screentime. Yeah, this episode had some good special effects, but what’s the point of watching it for this Chlarker? :p

Episode 2

S1 - Metamorphosis - Bugs are exposed to too much meteor rock. Bugs bite boy. Boy turns into Bugboy. Bugboy molts in the shower. Bugboy eats his mom (I think). He at least kills her and puts her in a nasty web-like cocoon in his bedroom. And he’s the first in a long line of creepy Lana stalkers (unless you count telescope voyeur Clark). :D Yeah... this episode is just that gross...
S2 - Heat - Pheromones. Watermelons. Most unusual reason for Clark developing a super power EVER. And more Chlark angst and pining. Not my episode of choice.
S3 - Phoenix - Clark is dumb enough to bottle his blood, after scraping himself with kryptonite, in front of a crime boss and several of his goons. Yeah, way to reveal your identity to a savory crowd, Super-Dork. Luckily, the Man of Steel is stronger than duck tape, and Lionel’s security guards are trigger happy.
S4 - Gone - It’s Terminator 2, Smallville style... only far less interesting, with less than zero motivation or personality, and able to be taken out with a can of Mace courtesy of Lana Lang. Yeah, great new villain, Smallville. At least Chloe’s back to make this SGuthrie’s eyes happy.
S5 - Mortal - Clana... Clana... aaaaaghhhh, Clana!!!! Need I say more?
S6 - Sneeze - Clark gets a cold and develops super-breath. Um... I’ve got nothing else to say on that one.
S7 - Kara - Clark’s Supergirl cousin, Kara Kent, arrives in Smallville, looking for a baby, and is surprised to learn she’s spent the last eighteen years or so of her life in cryogenic stasis... yawn... Oh, is the episode over already?
S8- Plastique - This one chick with too much eyeshadow likes blowing things (and people) up that she doesn’t like, and saying things in this growly, snippy, crackly voice that grates on the ears and the nerves pretty quickly.
S9 - Metallo - A dude gets run over by a truck and has all these cybernetic systems (and a chunk o’ meteor rock) implanted in his body, which makes him go psycho and smack Lois around to get the Blur’s attention. I don’t know how I can make this episode sound bad, when it was really oh, so good...

Episode 3

S1- Hothead - A football coach with pyrokinetic powers really thinks he can get away with almost frying his boss and threatening his young charges with fiery sprinklers, and then executes himself in a rain of fire. Yeah, that’s a criminal genius at work, there.
S2- Duplicity - Dr. Hamilton (the first one) has been degenerating into a blithering, stuttering, shaking idiot who threatens and kills at his leisure, while Pete acts all peeved that he wasn’t in on Clark’s little secret since they were both in diapers.
S3- Extinction - It’s open season on meteor freaks, and Van McNulty’s got some special ammo for just such an occasion. Oh, and Lana doesn’t think it’s at all weird that Clark wears a homemade lead breastplate to a gunfight... where he doesn’t even have a gun.
S4- Facade - Kryptonite + Plastic Surgery - Any Semblance of a Good Plot = Potentially one of the WORST Smallville Episodes of All Time!
S5- Hidden - More Clana!!! Need I say more? Well... I guess the super-jump of awesomeness kind of makes up for it... sort of. ;)
S6- Wither - Basically, this is a poor excuse to show everyone hooking up other than Clark, and creating lots of romantic tension and angst. Oh, and this alien chick implants people with plant pods that make them sprout branches and vines and junk out of their stomach. “Ch-ch-ch-chia!”
S7 - Fierce - Supergirl tries out for Miss Sweet Corn Pageant, and runs into some weather controlling chicks who -- never mind! This may just be some very real competition for Facade! Who knew two such horrific episodes would be in the same bracket? :p
S8 - Toxic - “Looooost on an Islaaaaaand, faaaaaar from hooooooome!” Whoops, wrong show... or is it? Oliver has flashbacks about being on this Island with Tess, back when she was a sweet, quivering marine biologist, and nearly dies from being poisoned by a mysterious and rare flower. Can you say, “convenient plot device?”
S9 - Rabid - Zombies. On Smallville. Smallville with zombies. Drooling, chomping, red-eyed, gangly gross zombies. On my Smallville. No thank you!!!!!!

Episode 1 - (to the tune of "The Sun'll Come Out Tomorrow" from "Annie"): "Bizarro! Bizarro! I'll be bored with ya... tomorrow! You're only... three seasons awaaaaay!" Really, there aren't any horrible season premieres in Smallville history, but this is just my personal least favorite. Vortex came pretty close, too.

Episode 2 - I know my choice couldn't possibly win out against the rest of the competition but... I have a particular level of disgust directed toward "Heat." It was the first time that "Smallville" felt like "Smutville" to me, for lack of a better word, and I didn't like it... but that's just my personal opinion. "Metamorphosis" and "Gone" were pretty bad, too.

Episode 3 - "Fierce" or "Facade?" Beauty pageant with characters who had poor acting skills, or kryponite plastic surgery that makes people think their skin is rotting and make mirrors fall on themselves? Um... I'll have to go with the plastic surgery, this time. "Facade!" "Fierce," you'll probably get my vote next year. And "Rabid," don't think I didn't consider you... Zombies on Smallville. Seriously. :rolleyes:

Supsfan
06-01-2010, 08:24 PM
I have a particular level of disgust directed toward "Heat." It was the first time that "Smallville" felt like "Smutville" to me, for lack of a better word, and I didn't like it... but that's just my personal opinion.

Well there always was Clark X-raying into the girls locker full of girls in bra and panties while Lana was in a towel, or the Victoria Hardwick bathtub scene in Shimmer, how about Nicodemus?

SGuthrie27
06-01-2010, 08:35 PM
I didn't end up watching much of Season 1 until after the season was actually over, but yeah, those were some less than "G-rated" moments of Season 1, LOL...

Supsfan
06-01-2010, 08:38 PM
I didn't end up watching much of Season 1 until after the season was actually over, but yeah, those were some less than "G-rated" moments of Season 1, LOL...

While Nicodemus worked in reguards to the plot, the other 2 were just blatant "less then G-rated" moments. When you really look at it the scene in X-ray was pretty bad since if we assume Lana is supposed to be 14/15, then the girls in the lockerroom as well were supposed to be the same age(although lets face it most were probably in there mid twenties). lol

skully
06-01-2010, 11:31 PM
Episode 1 - Odyssey - All Premieres are good but I'll go with Odyssey purely because it didn't have Lex.

Episode 2 - Gone - The lamest of all meteor freaks Trent and the pointless helicopter scene.

Episode 3 - Fierce - a rare SV episode that I find has very few redeeming features. And LV was appalling in the episode.

RaniaLovesClois
06-02-2010, 12:49 AM
Episode 1: Vortex
Episode 2: Metamorphosis
Episode 3: Wither
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Pali
06-02-2010, 01:51 AM
Episode 1: Vortex - wasn´t bad, but other premieres were better IMO.

Episode 2: Metamorphosis - This episode had few very nice and classic moments, but bugboy was really grose. I wonder what were they thinking with placing this episode second.......don´t think that´s a way to bring viewers to a new show :p

Episode 3: Hothead - Really don´t know why.

Degobunny
06-02-2010, 04:49 AM
Episode 1: Odyssey - too many plotholes and no Lex :(
Episode 2: Metallo - Metallo okay but I like other second episodes better.
Episode 3: Rabid - I like zombies but Rabid was a rather subpar episode, with the Clois moment in the rain being the only highlight, and a weak one at that.

lana 9
06-02-2010, 07:39 AM
episode 1 odyssey

episode 2 gone

episode 3 wither

smallvillefreak24
06-02-2010, 10:12 AM
Episode 1 - Bizarro

Episode 2 - Sneeze

Episode 3 - Fierce

super_j_man
06-02-2010, 11:17 AM
By the way, I thought I would share this up if anybody were interested. I wish there was a way to put last year's info on the first post of this thread:

Losing Season 2008
Episode 1-Vortex (18/21 votes)
Episode 2-Metamorphosis (Beat Gone 10-8)
Episode 3-Fierce (Beat Wither 10-9)
Episode 4-Cure (Beat Aqua 8-7, Devoted and Slumber each got 4)
Episode 5-Thirst (Beat Nocturne 9-8)
Episode 6-Redux
Episode 7-Magnetic
Episode 8-Static
Episode 9-Subterranean (Beat Bound 11-9)
Episode 10-Fanatic
Episode 11-Lockdown
Episode 12-Fracture (Got 6 votes, Pariah had 5, Reckoning had 4, Leech and Hereafter had 3 each)
Episode 13-Hero (Beat Recruit 6-5)
Episode 14-Tomb (Beat Trespass 8-6)
Episode 15-Resurrection
Episode 16-Lucy (Beat Hypnotic 10-7)
Episode 17-Sleeper (15/20 votes)
Episode 18-Drone (Beat Visitor 8-5)
Episode 19-Precipice
Episode 20-Ageless (16/21 votes)
Episode 21-Forever
Episode 22-Vessel

Losing Season 2009
Episode 1) "Vortex"
Episode 2) "Metamorphosis"
Episode 3) "Fierce"
Episode 4) "Devoted"
Episode 5) "Thirst"
Episode 6) "Redux"
Episode 7) "Craving"
Episode 8) "Static"
Episode 9) "Subterranean"
Episode 10) "Fanatic"
Episode 11) "Lockdown"
Episode 12) "Reckoning"
Episode 13) "Power"
Episode 14) "Requiem"
Episode 15) "Resurrection"
Episode 16) "Hypnotic"
Episode 17) "Sleeper"
Episode 18) "Eternal"
Episode 19) "Precipice"
Episode 20) "Ageless"
Episode 21) "Forever"
Episode 22) "Doomsday"

Nanda Lane
06-02-2010, 12:02 PM
Episode 1 - Vortex

Episode 2 - Metamorphosis

Episode 3 - Fierce

SGuthrie27
06-02-2010, 08:04 PM
By the way, I thought I would share this up if anybody were interested. I wish there was a way to put last year's info on the first post of this thread:

Losing Season 2008
Episode 1-Vortex (18/21 votes)
Episode 2-Metamorphosis (Beat Gone 10-8)
Episode 3-Fierce (Beat Wither 10-9)
Episode 4-Cure (Beat Aqua 8-7, Devoted and Slumber each got 4)
Episode 5-Thirst (Beat Nocturne 9-8)
Episode 6-Redux
Episode 7-Magnetic
Episode 8-Static
Episode 9-Subterranean (Beat Bound 11-9)
Episode 10-Fanatic
Episode 11-Lockdown
Episode 12-Fracture (Got 6 votes, Pariah had 5, Reckoning had 4, Leech and Hereafter had 3 each)
Episode 13-Hero (Beat Recruit 6-5)
Episode 14-Tomb (Beat Trespass 8-6)
Episode 15-Resurrection
Episode 16-Lucy (Beat Hypnotic 10-7)
Episode 17-Sleeper (15/20 votes)
Episode 18-Drone (Beat Visitor 8-5)
Episode 19-Precipice
Episode 20-Ageless (16/21 votes)
Episode 21-Forever
Episode 22-Vessel

Losing Season 2009
Episode 1) "Vortex"
Episode 2) "Metamorphosis"
Episode 3) "Fierce"
Episode 4) "Devoted"
Episode 5) "Thirst"
Episode 6) "Redux"
Episode 7) "Craving"
Episode 8) "Static"
Episode 9) "Subterranean"
Episode 10) "Fanatic"
Episode 11) "Lockdown"
Episode 12) "Reckoning"
Episode 13) "Power"
Episode 14) "Requiem"
Episode 15) "Resurrection"
Episode 16) "Hypnotic"
Episode 17) "Sleeper"
Episode 18) "Eternal"
Episode 19) "Precipice"
Episode 20) "Ageless"
Episode 21) "Forever"
Episode 22) "Doomsday"

Oooh, I like numbers and data, so thanks for posting this, Jess! It'll be interesting to see how this year's standings compare...

SGuthrie27
06-03-2010, 04:53 PM
Goodness, nobody else has posted since yesterday at 2:00?! What's the world coming to? This round ends tomorrow night and the new one begins... and there aren't that many votes to go on thus far... :(

super_j_man
06-03-2010, 05:47 PM
Hey Jeff, if you build it they will surely come right? :o Anyways, looks like we are going to have a sudden death between Wither & Fierce if nothing changes much...

skully
06-03-2010, 05:56 PM
Goodness, nobody else has posted since yesterday at 2:00?! What's the world coming to? This round ends tomorrow night and the new one begins... and there aren't that many votes to go on thus far... :(
Sweet talk Atomic Girl (who is about the only Mod who comes in here) to allow us to point people here from the General Discussion Forum. :)

SGuthrie27
06-03-2010, 06:05 PM
Hey Jeff, if you build it they will surely come right? :o Anyways, looks like we are going to have a sudden death between Wither & Fierce if nothing changes much...

You might be right, Jess! I went back though and sent visitor messages to EVERY poster on this thread who participated last year, LOL, so maybe that'll drum up a few more players/voters. :)

super_j_man
06-03-2010, 06:08 PM
You might be right, Jess! I went back though and sent visitor messages to EVERY poster on this thread who participated last year, LOL, so maybe that'll drum up a few more players/voters. :)

Took a page from my playbook eh? ;)

SGuthrie27
06-03-2010, 06:09 PM
Sweet talk Atomic Girl (who is about the only Mod who comes in here) to allow us to point people here from the General Discussion Forum. :)

I'll see what I can do... :D

SGuthrie27
06-03-2010, 07:16 PM
Huff... puff... whew... I managed to send visitor messages to about half of my K-Site friends to join in the fray... We'll see how many of them actually want to try it out, LOL.

jpfort1957
06-03-2010, 09:54 PM
Thanks for the invite Jeff!! I need to think about it for a few, before I can pick. SV is like sex..........even some of the lesser epps are still good!!!!!

vyperman7
06-03-2010, 10:04 PM
Episode 1 - Odyssey - The worst premiere of the show IMO. I am actually surprised that Vortex has gotten so many votes. Vortex is extremely underrated IMO.

Episode 2 - Sneeze - This episode sucked. There were a few cool Chlark moments, but overall it was underwhelming. I really hated how they didn't show Clark putting out the fire to save Lex and Lana. All they showed was a burst of air putting it out. In a new power episode, you need to show Clark using it. Not just simulating it.

Episode 3 - Toxic - I didn't care for this episode at all. I watch the show for Clark, not for Oliver's origins. I could personally care less about how he became the Green Arrow. Wither would have been my second choice.

wellinglover66
06-03-2010, 10:13 PM
Episode 1: Vortex
Episode 2: Plastique
Episode 3: Hidden

SGuthrie27
06-03-2010, 10:21 PM
YES!!!! 2 more votes! I LOVE it! Only 19-ish hours left to go 'til I end this round and start up a new one, so get your last votes in while you can, friends!

Xanderman
06-04-2010, 02:32 AM
Episode 1: Bizarro (S7)

I had a three-way tie for worst, between this, 5's Arrival and 9's Savior. With 8's Odyssey being a close 4th. Smallville's premieres have been weak in general, for the most part. 4's Crusade and 6's Zod were hardly great premieres either.

Episode 2: Gone (S4)

Gone was a truly boring waste of space, but I could have easily gone with 6's Sneeze here as well. Another bad one was 7's Kara.

Episode 3: Wither (S6)

My my, quite a collection of crap in this sorry sack of episodes isn't there... 6's Wither just inches out 7's Fierce for me. 4's Façade and 8's Toxic were also failures in the entertainment department.

immery
06-04-2010, 04:19 AM
1 Vortex - probably wouldn't win (lose?) as the worst if it wasn't season premiere.
2 Metamorphosis - I've recently rewatched it and it wasn't better than I remembered
3 Toxic, although almost all ep3 coud go here

jpfort1957
06-04-2010, 07:34 AM
Episode 1: Vortex
Episode 2: Metamorphosis
Episode 3: Hothead

But I want to give Odyssey an honorable mention as one of the worst premiers also.

Xanderman
06-04-2010, 01:14 PM
Vortex is extremely underrated IMO.Totally underrated. That and Metamorphosis. I also feel the Pilot doesn't get its just recognition.

The way I see it, this is what's happening -- since we're in later seasons, we are more likely to have a lot more "new fans" to Smallville around on the board, with a loss of many of the older fans that used to post. Many of these new fans will have been first introduced to Smallville in its later stages, and as a result see later seasons as the "standard" or norm by which to judge all else. As such, the later in the series we get, the more likely it is that later season eps will be considered the best episodes, and the earlier the worst, because newer fans/viewers increasingly begin to replace the older ones. That and the fact that newer eps tend to have higher or more modern production values, more current popular culture references etc, increasing the "relevancy" factor for current fans. (There is also the obvious factor of older eps being further from people's memories. Not everyone buys the dvds or rewatches eps multiple times, for one thing.)

I for one think Smallville got worse as it went along (especially after Season 6--the last good season). But I'm sure there are a good many fans who currently post on this board who prefer the most recent seasons.

Over-analysis, completed.:cool: (I'll shut up now. :lol: )

Supsfan
06-04-2010, 01:30 PM
Totally underrated. That and Metamorphosis. I also feel the Pilot doesn't get its just recognition.

Pilot is in my top 5 episodes, Crusade just higher. Episode #5 is a tough choice as well, 3 of my top 12 fit in there. On the flip side #14 has 3(Traveler, Requiem and Trespass) of my worst 6 episodes ever in it along with one more in bottom 30.

SGuthrie27
06-04-2010, 05:55 PM
All right, then, folks -- we've finished Round 1, and here are the official standings thus far:

Episode 1 - Vortex - Who knew an episode about a tornado could suck this bad, eh? :p
Episode 2 - Metamorphosis - And, for another year, Bugboy gets squished!
Episode 3 - Wither - The shipper-fest of ugh-ness finally beats Miss Sweet Corn for worst episode in this category! :D

Just wait a few minutes and I'll have up the second round...

marcella
06-04-2010, 06:22 PM
Lol, exactly the ones I voted:p Wither is so bad! I can't believe it hadn't won before. And Vortex is not bad, all the other season premieres are better:)

Supsfan
06-04-2010, 06:33 PM
Lol, exactly the ones I voted:p Wither is so bad! I can't believe it hadn't won before. And Vortex is not bad, all the other season premieres are better:)

I never get the hate for Wither. Sure it's wasn't that good and had it's share of problems but it wasn't terrible. If you take the stupid unneeded Chloe saves Clark moment I would say it was good.

vyperman7
06-04-2010, 06:37 PM
Episode 1 - Vortex - Who knew an episode about a tornado could suck this bad, eh? .

Vortex doesn't suck at all IMO. Over the years it has become one of my favorite premieres.

SGuthrie27
06-04-2010, 06:47 PM
Hehe, I was just making a play on words, Ryan. I actually like all the season premieres to a certain extent, and I am not one of the ones who voted for "Vortex" either. But anyway, here's the second round of episodes, ready for your votes! Bring it on, people! You have until 8:00 PM, CST, on Monday, June 7th, to get your votes in for Round 2!

Episode 4:
S1 - X-Ray - The first female stalker of Lana wants to be like her so much that she shape-shifts into various people close to her, and then tries to replace her -- but can any other 4th Episode replace this one as the worst in its category?
S2 - Red - Clark Kent gets high on red kryptonite for the first time, takes Lana to a bar, threatens bad girl Jessie and her dad, and the moral of the story is, “Don’t accept any fake rubies in your class ring, folks!”
S3 - Slumber - Yaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnn.... Huh?! What?!? Oh, I was supposed to be giving you a clever description of... umm... Slumber... *snore*
S4 - Devoted - Give me an S! Give me a T! Give me a U! Give me a P-I-D! What does that spell? An accurate description of an episode that features cheerleaders discovering a love molecule and using it to turn their boyfriends into their personal slaves by spiking their gatorade with their kryptonite cocktail.
S5 - Aqua - A.C. makes a splash when he visits Smallville, says “bro” a lot, and may have left a bit of a fishy smell in his wake upon leaving, but that’s Aquaman for ya, bro.
S6 - Arrow - He’s a mean, green, fighting machine! No, not the Hulk. He steals from the rich, and gives to the poor! No, not Robin Hood, either. It’s the first full in-costume appearance of Green Arrow, but was this episode a bullseye for viewers, or way off-target?
S7 - Cure - Dean Cain stars as Dr. Curtis Knox, who stalks meteor freaks and harvests their vital organs (after murdering them and performing surgery on them while awake) to try to resuscitate his ailing love... and his next victim on the list is Chloe! Eek!
S8 - Instinct - Tess Mercer accidentally summons the provocative warrior queen Maxima, who leaves a line of dead potential suitors in her wake. Meanwhile, the significance of the “Fever” letter gets stomped on a few dozen times, and Jimmy goes on another one of his jealous “I’m not as good as Clark” kicks.
S9 - Echo - Clark backhands a guy into a coma ‘cause he thinks he’s the hostage-taking Toyman, but on the plus side, he does get temporary telepathy from his Ice Castle Daddy Jor-El. Oh, and Oliver tries to blow himself up.

Episode 5:
S1 - Cool - Sean Kelvin, the “heat-seeking horndog,” tries to shack up with various Smallville High ladies to absorb their body heat, and Clark tries to suavely ask Lana out on a not-a-date.
S2 - Nocturne - Another Lana-stalker spends his life chained up in his basement, except when he escapes to leave her creepy love poems in the graveyard, WHERE SHE ACTUALLY SPENDS THE NIGHT! *slaps forehead* Oh, and he goes all hulk-like in the sunlight.
S3 - Perry - Clark’s future editor-in-chief at the Daily Planet shows up in Smallville for the television program X-Styles, and thinks Clark might be an interesting subject... if he can keep track of the clues easily enough while getting drunk every five minutes.
S4 - Run - Bart Allen, the super-speedster known as Impulse, breezes into town when he swipes Jonathan Kent’s wallet, then nabs a priceless manuscript from Lex’s library. Yep, Bart, that’s a real way to win friends and influence people real fast. :p
S5 - Thirst - They vahnt to suck your blahd! Well, they actually do, since they’re a vampire sorority group that recruits Lana as their newest inductee, and snack on pizza delivery guys in their hot tub of nastiness in their spare time. Yuck.
S6 - Reunion - Each of Lex’s old buddies (or are they bullies) is getting picked off, one by one, as he has flashbacks where he’s portrayed by a High School Musical actor (the horror!), and Oliver and Lois flirt a lot, but it’s all linked to astral projection of all things... Huh?
S7 - Action - More like, cut! Quiet on the set, people! It’s an episode about the filming of Warrior Angel, which for some reason is getting shot in Smallville and on the Kent Farm. Can Clark save starlet Rachel Davenport from a psycho comic geek before it’s too late? Do we really care?
S8 - Committed - A loony jeweler kidnaps couples and forces them to undergo electroshock lie detector tests to prove their love for each other, and he sets his sights next on Jimmy and Chloe, forcing Clark and Lois to pretend to be a couple to unearth his identity, leading to many heavy mythos anvils being dropped on this poor Chlarker’s head.
S9 - Roulette - Oliver’s dumb enough to take a strange pill from a strange woman, putting him in the midst of a strange game where he gets chased by a strange dog, almost gets pulverized by a strange truck, strangely gets his billions of dollars purged from his bank account, but in the end, it was all to show the “hero in his heart.” Awwww. The next time I need an intervention, I’ll be sure to call Chloe, too. :p

Episode 6:
S1 - Hourglass - A koi pond filled with meteor rocks serves as a veritable fountain of youth for serial killer Harry Volk, who wants to hunt down the descendants of all the jurors who convicted him. But who cares about him when you’ve got the precognitive visions of Cassandra Carver to enjoy, featuring the legendary fates of both Clark Kent and Lex Luthor?!
S2 - Redux - This girl sucks the life out of people to keep herself youthful, so she can stay in high school... foooooreeeeeveeeeeer. A fate worse than death, if you ask me. Couple that lame A-Plot with the fact that the two guest stars (William Clark -- Martha’s dad and Principal Reynolds) never show up again, and the episode seems even more pointless.
S3 - Relic - Clark discovers a medallion that his dad left in the Kawatche Caves on an Earth walkabout years in the past, which allows him to touch random mailboxes, trucks, and stuff, to have visions of his gag-worthy whirlwind love affair with Lana lookalike Louise McCallum, and to bring her murderer to justice! This plot of the Drifter tends to make me drift off to sleep... ;)
S4 - Transference - Body-swapping excitement occurs in its most epic form as Clark and Lionel end up trading places, which leads to ensuing chaos, lots of hurt feelings, several women scorned, and a return appearance from Bridgette Crosby. Seriously, it’s very hard to make this excellent episode sound the least bit bad.
S5 - Exposed - Strippers on Smallville. This gets the same reaction that I gave Vampires on Smallville. And Zombies on Smallville. Ugh. Double-Ugh. Mega-Ugh. And WHY?! Anyway, it also has Dukes of Hazard references, if you’re old enough to recognize ‘em.
S6 - Fallout - A radiation-zapping phantom known as Baern has escaped the Phantom Zone, and wreaks havoc on the lives of poor Clark and his ghost-daddy’s ex-secretary, Raya, and blows a hole through one of them. Can you guess which one?!
S7 - Lara - Clark’s Kryptonian Mommy is back! Well, sort of. Actually, not yet. It’s all really flashbacks and rather bland relationship stuff that’s kinda boring, but hey, Helen Slater does look really pretty...
S8 - Prey - Is Davis Bloome killing nuns and meteor freak girls and night clubbers and stuff? Probably. But there’s also a copycat “Shadow Killer” on the loose, not that Chloe and Clark realize that, which is why they argue and act all snippy with each other and stuff, which will happen, ad infinitum, the next season.
S9 - Crossfire - Oliver gets a sidekick immediately after getting pulled up forcibly by his bootstraps out of the gutter (yeah, great time to be a role model)! Lois and Clark try Internet dating and being talk show hosts! Uh... what? And Chloe has a nerd-fest hack-off with Kyle XW -- er, Stuart! Talk to the hand! “Hello, hand.” :p

So, what will your choices be?!?

Supsfan
06-04-2010, 06:49 PM
Episode 4 -Slumber
Felt like a S1 reject, and unlike lesser S1 episodes the b and c plotlines didn't have the charm those did.

Episode 5 - Nocturnal
Much like Slumber, felt like a S1 reject without the charm of S1 b and c plotlines but unlike Slumber the FOTW was boring as all hell(at least Slumber was somewhat interesting)

Episode 6 - Relic
Where do I start on this one. Basically an entire epiosde that felt like a cheap excuse to have Tom and Kristin do and say everything Clana shippers have been waiting for 2+ seasons to see Clark and Lana do. The whole premise of the flashback was ridiculous. Where do we start with the problems

1. Jor-El is an adulterer. I would like to believe Clark's dad had higher moral standards but in an effort to try satisfy Clana shippers the producers sold him out(not that there use of Jor-El was that great to start with). Even worse was Clark didn't see any problem with his dad's actions.

2. Louise is a (fill in a derogatory word). What exactly does it say of Lana's family that both her mom and aunt seem to have a history of cheating on people. I guess it's a family trait, maybe I should look at this as a positive since it does show continuity since it seems like anybody on that side of Lana's family can never be happy. lol

3. Louise is part asian. What are the chances that Lana's great aunt is part asian like Lana. I have to say rather slim. Beyond that we are supposed to believe this is 1961, which would mean at the moment of Louise's concievement would have been roughly sometime during WW2. Now what are the chances of smalltown Kansas being accepting of a Japanesse person dating a white person during WW2. I am just being realistic.

This episode was a big wasted opportunity to give us some background into Jor-El, instead turning it into a Clana opps I mean "Jo-ise" shipperfest. They might have been better off to get other actors to make the story seem more realistic, but that wasn't the point.

LordOnox
06-04-2010, 06:57 PM
Episode 4: Devoted
Episode 5: Nocturne
Episode 6: Redux

SparkleforSmallville
06-04-2010, 07:04 PM
Episode 4: Echo
Episode 5: Cool
Episode 6: Redux

skully
06-04-2010, 07:05 PM
Episode 4: Cure
Episode 5: Nocturne
Episode 6: Redux

MrsK
06-04-2010, 07:12 PM
Episode 4: Echo
Episode 5: Nocturne
Episode 6: Redux

vyperman7
06-04-2010, 07:20 PM
1. Jor-El is an adulterer. I would like to believe Clark's dad had higher moral standards but in an effort to try satisfy Clana shippers the producers sold him out(not that there use of Jor-El was that great to start with). Even worse was Clark didn't see any problem with his dad's actions.

It has been awhile since I watched this episode, but I could have sworn that they said it was a journey that Jor-El took when he was much younger (around Clark's age at the time or a little older). So if that is the case, Jor-El might not have been married to Lara yet.

Episode 4 - Aqua
Episode 5 - Nocturne
Episode 6 - Redux

rockyshadow
06-04-2010, 07:22 PM
Episode 4 Cure
Episode 5 Nocturne
Episode 6 Redux

wellinglover66
06-04-2010, 07:27 PM
Episode 4: Aqua
Episode 5: Roulette
Episode 6: Relic

Supsfan
06-04-2010, 07:29 PM
It has been awhile since I watched this episode, but I could have sworn that they said it was a journey that Jor-El took when he was much younger (around Clark's age at the time or a little older). So if that is the case, Jor-El might not have been married to Lara yet.

I always thought an adulterer was somebody who committed adultery, and adultery is committed by both parties when one of the 2 is married and the other is not. Basically while I guess you can say Jor-El did nothing terrible, it doesn't speak well of Jor-El and speaks even worse of Clark for not taking issue with his father getting in between a husband and wife.

vyperman7
06-04-2010, 07:32 PM
I always thought an adulterer was somebody who committed adultery, and adultery is committed by both parties when one of the 2 is married and the other is not. Basically while I guess you can say Jor-El did nothing terrible, it doesn't speak well of Jor-El and speaks even worse of Clark for not taking issue with his father getting in between a husband and wife.

I get what you are saying now..

Supsfan
06-04-2010, 07:35 PM
I get what you are saying now..

Let's not forget this wise little nugget from Lana:

Lana: Even if it was only for a few days, she knew what it felt like to really be in love.

That has to be worth a -1 alone by itself. I mean how the hell do you know how your Great Aunt who died 40+ years ago felt and don't you realize what a crappy wife she was but hey at least she knew how it was to really be in love.

And how about that old guy who at the end seemed happy his wife cheated on him because it made her happy. What exactly does that side of Lana's family have over guys that they don't seem to care when they do terrible things to guys, it only makes them love them more.

In case you can't tell I really hated Relic(I know alot of people will point to the scene with Jor-El and Jonathon's dad as great but that was a grand total of 2 minutes of 40)

BadToad
06-04-2010, 07:45 PM
Episode 4: Echo
Episode 5: Roulette
Episode 6: Redux

Nanda Lane
06-04-2010, 08:22 PM
Episode 4: Slumber

Episode 5: Roulette

Episode 6: Relic

smallvillefreak24
06-04-2010, 09:56 PM
Episode 4 - Cure

Episode 5 - Nocturne

Episode 6 - Redux

RaniaLovesClois
06-04-2010, 11:32 PM
Episode 4: Cure
Episode 5: Thirst
Episode 6: Redux

costas22
06-04-2010, 11:47 PM
Episode 4: Cure
Episode 5: Thirst
Episode 6: Redux

lana 9
06-05-2010, 12:05 AM
episode 4 aqua

episode 5 roulette

episode 6 exposed

Jaderoyale
06-05-2010, 03:03 AM
Episode 4; Cure
Episode 5; Thirst
Episode 6; Redux

immery
06-05-2010, 04:20 AM
4: Slumber
5: Nocturne
6: Prey

skully
06-05-2010, 04:27 AM
Oooh, tense battle between Nocturne and Thirst for suckiest epi 5. Redux looks to be a runaway rubbish epi 6. :D

super_j_man
06-05-2010, 05:41 AM
Episode 4: Devoted
Episode 5: Thirst
Episode 6: Redux

I like Jeff's description of Devoted when he said "stupid". The writing was terrible, the part where Clark, Chloe and Lois stand up to the cheerleaders is udder borefest, and the whole things really just comes out to be a bunch of crap!

Episode 5 was a hard choice. IMO Thirst and Nocturne are equally bad, but both have some redeemable parts. I'll stick with Thirst for being another lame idea for an episode.

Redux?? Don't get me started! Do I even need to explain? :p

marcella
06-05-2010, 06:08 AM
Episode 4: Echo
Episode 5: Thirst
Episode 6: Redux


- It was so weird and very disappointing! There are a lot of better episodes out there
- Vampires...that's all I have to say:p
- It felt out of place and the plotline was very weird, but it had a decent B storyline (Clark's grandfather)

Clark/Lois-fan
06-05-2010, 06:36 AM
Episode 4 : Cure
Episode 5 : Thirst
Episode 6 : Redux

tyson08
06-05-2010, 07:05 AM
4: Slumber
5: Nocturne
6: Redux

SGuthrie27
06-05-2010, 08:10 AM
YAY! Look at all the votes! I LOVE it! Now I've gotta vote...

Episode 4 - Eek, this is actually really hard... I mean, you've got the horrible stupidity of "Devoted"... but then, it does have the adorable-ness of Chloe as a cheerleader! ;) "Slumber" is also a good, sleepy option, but actually, the Clana wasn't totally gag-worthy, and Sarah Conroy was a pretty good guest character. I guess it'll all come down to (shocker) "Cure!" It's the one Chloe-centric episode that I was never able to really get into... I don't like Curtis Knox, the concept is pretty gross... eh, I've got nothing else to say here. :p

Episode 5 - THIRST! Thirst! Definitely Thirst! Vampires on Smallville = UGH!

Episode 6 - Even though it's totally moot and pointless at this point, it seems, but still, "Exposed"... is really ridiculous. Strippers on Smallville may potentially be worse than the whole Vampire route...

Supsfan
06-05-2010, 08:46 AM
Oooh, tense battle between Nocturne and Thirst for suckiest epi 5. Redux looks to be a runaway rubbish epi 6. :D

Looks like my little rant on the stupidity of Relic had minimal effect

dh1031
06-05-2010, 01:23 PM
Hi guys,

Finally got some down time between projects, so I'll give this voting gig for episodes a whirl!

Episode 4: S9 - Echo - Clark's completely out of character, and the whole telepathy thing just seemed weak.

Episode 5: S8 - Committed - Just had too many bad flashbacks from the "Lois & Clark" series, thankful to have this episode over with.

Episode 6: S9 - Crossfire - The whole "morning show" and internet dating just to temporarily introduce was, well, just a painly episode to get through. I thought Lana was annoying, but Lois took the crown with this one! :p

Xanderman
06-05-2010, 02:21 PM
Episode 4: Instinct (S8)

This one is no contest. Notice the "stinct" in Instinct? That's no coincidence -- it stunk. lol Instinct was absolutely awful, one of the series' all-time worsts. Cure was weak as well, and Aqua was mediocre.

Episode 5: Roulette (S9)

For me it came down between Roulette and 1's Cool (which was anything but). But Roulette was such a dumb episode that it simply has to edge out Cool for bottom dog here. 7's Action was another bad one, as was 5's Thirst, however Thirst gains points from the Professor Fine (Brainiac)/Lex/Clark story component it had, which was quite enjoyable.

Episode 6: Exposed (S5)

Hard to choose which one's the worst as there are so many clunkers here. The two worst being Exposed and Redux I'd say. Fallout was forgettable as well, and Relic wasn't the best either but it was almost decent. Exposed gets the nudge however due to a boring-as-holy-hell Duke reunion and a Lois Lane strip show that wasn't nearly enough to save the day. The only thing Exposed exposed was its own crappiness.

MrsK
06-05-2010, 02:27 PM
Oooh, tense battle between Nocturne and Thirst for suckiest epi 5. Redux looks to be a runaway rubbish epi 6. :D
I voted for Nocturne, but I certainly won't mind if Thirst wins...:)

liana
06-05-2010, 02:54 PM
Episode 4 -Slumber

Episode 5 - Nocturne

Episode 6 - Relic

jbshmdfb
06-05-2010, 02:58 PM
Episode 4 -Cure

Episode 5 - Roulette

Episode 6 - Relic

skully
06-05-2010, 04:03 PM
I voted for Nocturne, but I certainly won't mind if Thirst wins...:)Yeah, but as cringeworthy as poor old KK's portrayal was as the vampire in Thirst, I liked how is gave her the opportunity to be a different character to the normal pouting princess, and the epi had plenty of fun elements about it ("I believe we had cake", "Oh sweety, this isn't a movie", "100% corn-fed Kansas beef. Let's eat" etc :D). Nocturne was just...well...dreary. :)

super_j_man
06-05-2010, 04:17 PM
Yeah, but as cringeworthy as poor old KK's portrayal was as the vampire in Thirst, I liked how is gave her the opportunity to be a different character to the normal pouting princess, and the epi had plenty of fun elements about it ("I believe we had cake", "Oh sweety, this isn't a movie", "100% corn-fed Kansas beef. Let's eat" etc :D). Nocturne was just...well...dreary. :)

I remember watching the commentary for Thirst and Al and Miles put it best when they said the Chloe voice-overs saved the episode in a lot of ways.

MrsK
06-05-2010, 04:32 PM
I agree with them that the voice-overs saved the ep.

skully
06-05-2010, 05:22 PM
Yeah, they completely got it wrong as a Halloween episode and had to completely re-edit it with Chloe's narration.

marcella
06-05-2010, 06:04 PM
It was the best idea they had for that episode:D^^^

skully
06-05-2010, 06:07 PM
It was funny, because at the end of the commentary, after lamenting how much trouble they had with the epi and how bad everyone thought it was, they both said, "hey, that wasn't so bad afterall." They obviously had avoided watching it again too many times. :D

marcella
06-05-2010, 06:09 PM
It was funny, because at the end of the commentary, after lamenting how much trouble they had with the epi and how bad everyone thought it was, they both said, "hey, that wasn't so bad afterall." They obviously had avoided watching it again too many times. :D

:rotfl: That's true!

skully
06-05-2010, 06:15 PM
And it is my view on the epi. It is totally cringeworthy with Lana hissing and crouching all over the place but it is fast paced and quite hilarious in places. Sort of "it's so bad, it's good". :D

Nocturne was just depressing.

MrsK
06-05-2010, 06:18 PM
Agreed.

Supsfan
06-05-2010, 06:56 PM
It was funny, because at the end of the commentary, after lamenting how much trouble they had with the epi and how bad everyone thought it was, they both said, "hey, that wasn't so bad afterall." They obviously had avoided watching it again too many times. :D

I actually find it an episode that gets more enjoyable over time. Far from being anything great, but much better then alot of episodes that sink to worse depths to try tell a story.

All that being said can't say I am a fan of the Chloe narrative. It's sort of a break from normal Smallville story telling patterns and just doesn't feel right

skully
06-05-2010, 08:34 PM
I never get the hate for Wither. Sure it's wasn't that good and had it's share of problems but it wasn't terrible. If you take the stupid unneeded Chloe saves Clark moment I would say it was good.One word, Sups - Lexana. :D

And I think most people were very disappointed in the lame showdown between Clark and Gloria where he used his heat vision to set off the greenhouse sprinkler system to electrocute her via the lights arcing out in the water.

Supsfan
06-06-2010, 12:52 PM
Nocturne was just depressing.

I am currently doing a rewatch of all seasons and just finished watching Nocturne. I think I figured out what bugged me so much about the episode. Basically every scene with Lana and Clark involved Lana throwing out a passive agressive comment about keeping secrets. I also never was a fan of the Martha and Lionel storyline from S2(even worse when you consider how it set up events after Jonathon's death). I think I could of forgave the Byron FOTW storyline(much like many lame S1-4 FOTWs) if the b and c plots in this episode didn't suck so much.

On the subject of rewatching episodes. Red is not as good as I remember it(although still enjoyable). I think I get caught up in everybody's love for the episode but upon rewatch Lana's passive aggresive comments towards Clark start getting grating rather quickly(it starts in Vortex) as opposed to when you first watch it and think they going somewhere with it so you let them go for awhile.

In general I like all S1 episodes. I probably shouldn't have voted for Metamorphosis, but episode 2 is a tough list and when I made the vote the only thing that stuck out was bug boy. I do believe that the show started to get less enjoyable though near the end of the season(basically Reaper-Obscura and Shimmer are my worst rated episodes from that season). Upon rewtach though Obscura wasn't as stupid as I remember it(the whole Lana can see through somebody else's eyes) and goes from worst to best of that list of 5(Obscura, Reaper, Drone, Shimmer and Crush in that order, although Crush is far from being the worst episode ever or even one I hate, more just one I don't particularly care for).

Degobunny
06-07-2010, 10:44 AM
Episode 4:
Echo - I tried to watch this episode but the combination of emo Oliver trying to kill himself, and the continued retcon of Lollie made this one of the worst episodes on season 9.

Episode 5:
Action - Another episode that ends in Clark deliberately delaying his destiny becuase of a girl.

Episode 6:
Crossfire - A Lois Lane lovefest that I have no intention of ever subjecting myself to ever again.

Exedore
06-07-2010, 02:39 PM
Episode 4: Slumber
Episode 5: Roulette
Episode 6: Relic

SGuthrie27
06-07-2010, 03:19 PM
Ooh, some of the match-ups have become a bit closer... Only a few hours left to vote before we move on to Round 3, people! Get your votes in while you can!

CallMeClark
06-07-2010, 03:49 PM
First - Thanks SG for the message. I didn't know it had started!

Episode 4:
S3 - Slumber

Episode 5:
S5 - Thirst

Episode 6:
S1 - Hourglass

SGuthrie27
06-07-2010, 06:42 PM
WOW, some of the episodes had some really tight standings at the end there! Here are the results:

Episode 4: Cure apparently could not be cured of its less than admirable qualities -- it lost with 9 votes compared to 7 for Slumber and 6 for Echo.

Episode 5: Nocturne turned out to be not so much a haunting song as it was a hauntingly drab and dull episode, beating Thirst's 8 votes and Roulette's 7 votes with its 10 votes.

Episode 6 - Redux took the title handily with 15 votes. No other episode came close -- the next nearest option was Relic, with only 6 votes. :p

I'll have the new round up and running in a bit! Thanks SO much to all who are participating and making this game successful -- we're actually getting a better turnout now than we did last year! Looks like all my visitor messages are paying off! ;)

skully
06-07-2010, 06:55 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hehehe, my picks, SG. :D

SGuthrie27
06-07-2010, 07:20 PM
You made excellent predictions indeed, skully!

Now, let's move onto Round 3, which features the following episodes, and shall be open until 8:00-ish on Thursday, June 10th, 2010!

Episode 7:
S1 - Craving - The lovely and talented actress, Amy Adams, star of “Enchanted,” “Leap Year,” and many other fine movies, is reduced to a roadkill-deer-eating gal who takes the phrase “eating disorder” to a whole new level.
S2 - Lineage - This psycho woman says she’s Clark’s mom, tries to take an axe to Lex’s head (hey, that’s not the way Michael Rosenbaum shaves off his locks, lady!), and clever camera angles give us previously unviewed flashback scenes from the day of the devastating meteor shower.
S3 - Magnetic - Seth Nelson gets bashed in the head with a snowglobe for giving Lana preferential treatment at the carnival (stalker!) and gains the ability to move metal objects with his mind... and control people’s brain chemistry to make them like him. Well, Lana likes him anyway. The rest of the world seems to barely tolerate his existence, and the fact he got taken down in a Tunnel of Love ride shows how lame this FOTW villain really was. This episode did feature a Chlarky kiss, though, so it can’t be THAT bad. ;)
S4 - Jinx - So... Mr. Mxyzptlk went from being a teleporting fuzzy-white-haired imp who can warp reality... to a Russian accent-sporting hippie who can make people trip and choke and stuff by talking, and can be taken down by something as simple as an army sonic scrambler or a plague of locusts? Now there’s making subtle arrangements to the Superman mythos, and then there’s this... :p
S5 - Splinter - Clark’s feeling extremely paranoid after getting a sliver of silver kryptonite stuck in his finger, causing him to think Chloe’s plotting with Lionel (again), his folks are accepting Luthor money to turn him into a lab rat, and Lana and Lex are smoooooooching (later this season, pal -- who knew silver K could give you precognitive visions, too?!).
S6 - Rage - Green Arrow smash puny criminals! At least, that’s how Oliver hulks out after taking this experimental drug to increase his physical strength and stamina after getting shot on one of his capers.
S7 - Wrath - Lana gets Clark’s powers through a bizarre accident involving a windmill and lightning with very convenient timing -- and promptly proceeds to throw Lois through a glass door, tussle with Lex Luthor, and cause earthquakes by... we just won’t even go there. It’ll just incur my wrath, LOL...
S8 - Identity - Jimmy thinks he knows the identity of the Red-Blue Blur after catching a fuzzy snapshot of him saving Lois’s bacon! Only he’s convinced it’s not him after Ollie pulls himself out of his “I hate my life and Lionel Luthor even though he’s dead” state to pretend to be Clark for 5 minutes. Oh, and Brainiac-in-Chloe wipes this freak Sebastian’s mind cleaner than if she’d done it with Lysol disinfecting wipes -- “Or some serious Lemon Pledge,” Product Placement Pete might add.
S9 - Kandor - Jor-El arrives in Smallville and gets a whole bunch of continuity anvils dropped on him by Chloe while Clark and Oliver wander around in the desert looking for kryptonian symbols and dogtags, and we get to see just how the Kandorians ended up stuffed into that tiny Purple Orb of Plot Contrivance (TM).

Episode 8:
S1 - Jitters - Earl Jenkins is about ready to shake, rattle, and roll -- but not at Clark’s first crazy party. No, he’s mad as all get out about the meteor rock fragments that got embedded in his skin while working in the elusive “Level 3” of the Luthorcorp fertilizer plant -- a level that doesn’t seem to exist... Dun, dun, DUN! Plus, Gabe Sullivan makes lame punny jokes about his equally lame job. The horror!
S2 - Ryan - Clark’s telepathic little brother figure returns, just long enough to find out Mama K is pregnant a whole six episodes before the viewers do, and then to die after taking a last balloon ride with Clark that always makes me sniffly... Sad, sad, sad... R.I.P., Ryan. :(
S3 - Shattered - Lex Luthor is nuttier than a fruitcake! At least, that’s what the dynamic duo of Lionel Luthor and Morgan Edge wants the world to believe after he discovered the truth about the elder Luthor’s murder of his own parents in a tenement fire years ago. Lana gets her leg busted up by Meteor the Stompy Horse, Dr. Claire Foster gets up close and personal with a tree and doesn’t live to tell the tale, and Lex gets carted off to the loony bin after seeing Clark using his powers!
S4 - Spell - Lana, Lois, and Chloe get possessed by 16th century witches, and use their arcane abilities to... rock out at a crazy party in Clark’s barn that involves lots of clothing removal just when his football scout gets there?!? Uhh... awkward! Clark has to ward off the witchy threesome before they can get their hands on the Stone of Knowledge that he’s already sealed in the cave wall, or else Smallville could end up turning into a really bad remake of Bewitched!
S5 - Solitude - Martha’s super-sick, and it’s all Jor-El’s fault! At least, that’s what Milton Fine (really Brainiac) wants to make Clark think, and so convinces him to destroy the Fortress of Solitude (actually release General Zod) and baits him into being trapped there with green kryptonite. Luckily Clark has a plucky blonde sidekick this season to save the day!
S6 - Static - So this dude has the awe-inspiring power to move between different frequencies, and tries to expose Lex’s cover up of his 33.1 facility, where he must’ve kept lots of people with even lamer abilities if this is the best one TPTB could come up with for use in the show. Meanwhile, a guy from the Phantom Zone played by Batista rips out people’s spines and eats ‘em for breakfast, and Martian Manhunter likes blowing holes in said evil aliens and eating Oreo cookies. Yum! :p
S7 - Blue - Clark is suckered into another trap, this time involving his cloned mommy, evil cloned Zor-El, a blue kryptonite ring that will NOT -- COME -- OFF!!!, and Kara winding up in Detroit with no memory and only a psycho busboy and a friendly waitress for company. Smaaaart.
S8 - Bloodline - Clark gets a mysterious package in the mail, which transports himself and Lois to the Phantom Zone, where they reunite with Kara, get brought back to Earth by Brainiac -- er, Chloe, and have to deal with Worst Mommy of the Year 2008 Faora (who impales her own goo-egg kid, Davis Bloome), who just happens to have possessed Miss Lane. Oops. And Kara flies off to track down the Kandorians, but apparently doesn’t bring a cell phone with her so Clark can tell her about their arrival throughout the entire ninth season.
S9 - Idol - Powers ACTIVATE! Twins Zan and Janya can turn into the three states of matter and various groovy animals, while also wreaking a lot of havoc with their particularly amateurish brand of heroism. Meanwhile, the Blur likes revealing his identity to said rookies without an in-depth background check, Chloe is in full rant/lecture mode while she breaks various privacy laws in listening to Clark’s phone conversations, and the DA wants Lois dead in the worst way!

Episode 9:
S1 - Rogue - A dirty cop, Sam Phelan, blackmails Clark into stealing out of a safe (heh, sort of), and purloining a rare vest that bears something suspiciously similar to the House of El crest (again, heh, sort of), but this excellent guest star gets killed off by the end of the episode, argh!
S2 - Dichotic - Jonathan Taylor Thomas... on Smallville. Is that enough to make this episode sound bad? No? Okay, well, he also splits himself into two Ians (in the grossest way possible), and two-times snippy Lana and Chloe with each other, while Clark is made to look like the jealous sort-of-never-ex-boyfriend. Lame!
S3 - Asylum - And... they brought Jonathan Taylor Thomas’s character back? Again?! Well, at least they also brought along Eric Summers and Van McNulty for the ride as they try to stage a jailbreak attempt out of Belle Reeve and beat Clark to a bloody pulp. Adam Knight, meanwhile, manages to charm Lana with his abrasive brand of spooky honesty in physical therapy, and Lex gets his brain fried deeper than a certain brand of chicken that originates from Kentucky.
S4 - Bound - This whole episode is based on the premise that Lex digs chicks who look like his mom, and gives them a pair of diamond earrings after his many, many one-night-stands. Eww. Major, major eww.
S5 - Lexmas - It’s a Wonderful Life -- Smallville style! Lana is married to Lex and has a son and another kid on the way! Jonathan is a state senator who thinks Lex is just peachy keen! Chloe’s about ready to publish a book, and walks around, arm-in-arm with Clark! Unfortunately, this is a Chlarky parallel universe that cannot last, and Lex ends up going to the dark side after seeing Lana die ‘cause he’s got no money after being disinherited by Papa Luthor. Oh, and Santa gets convinced not to be a drunk, suicidal bum thanks to Clark’s very brief volunteer stint with Toys for Tots. Rrrrriiiiiight. I think we’re just lucky they stopped with the holiday-themed episode while they were ahead and didn’t try out a St. Patrick’s Day-themed episode of Smallville. :D
S6 - Subterranean - Farmer Jed McNally is a veritable human groundhog with his meteor abilities, and is breaking illegal immigrant and slave labor laws left and right, which makes a certain super-powered neighbor who’s a fan of truth, justice, and... other stuff... very angry! As angry as the viewers were about this rather lame plot for an episode? Not so much, probably.
S7 - Gemini - Chloe’s stuck in an elevator with Jimmy, about ready to get blown to pieces, thanks to an aged, failed clone of Grant Gabriel -- er, Julian Luthor... who’s actually dead, but was cloned by Lex because he wanted someone to love him or... something. I dunno, Lex’s whole thought process and scientific method here is a little lost on me. :p Oh, and Clark saves the day again... or does he?!
S8 - Abyss - Chloe’s memories are getting deleted by her own version of a mental computer virus! Eeek! Brainiac’s about ready to take over, so Clark takes her to the Fortress of Solitude, has Jor-El disinfect her lickety-split... and takes away all her memories of his powers and alien origins?! Without her consent?!?! Grrrr!!!!!!!
S9 - Pandora - Smallville is back to the future! A very dark, dystopian future featuring enslaved humans getting branded, a powerless Clark under a red Sun, a Zod who is in control of most of the world with his not-so-merry band of Kandorians, Chloe toting a set of kryptonite arrows and weaponry, lots of overly dramatic death scenes, and Cloisy looooooooooove!!!! Gag-o-rama. :lol:

skully
06-07-2010, 07:32 PM
Episode 7 - Magnetic - just a bad, bad epi.
Episode 8 - Blue - written and shot as the Writers Strike threat was at its peak. All the actors just phoned in their performances.
Episode 9 - Bound - quite boring, especially in the middle of the rollicking witches and stones arc. :)

Supsfan
06-07-2010, 07:37 PM
Episode 7 - Magnetic - terrible episode higlighted by Lana throwing out a line to Clark how Magnetic Boy was being honest with her

Episode 8 - Static - I don't hate this episode as much as others but it was subpar.

Episode 9 - Abyss - Chloe gets her memories wiped and Brainiac removed from her. 2 episodes later both are reversed. What exactly was the point of this again?

dh1031
06-07-2010, 08:13 PM
Episode 7: Kandor

Episode 8: Idol

Episode 9: Pandora

skully
06-07-2010, 08:18 PM
^^^^^^^^^
No love for S9 from dh. :D

Nanda Lane
06-07-2010, 08:42 PM
Episode 7 - Magnetic

Episode 8 - Static

Episode 9 - Abyss

dh1031
06-07-2010, 08:42 PM
^^^^^^^^^
No love for S9 from dh. :D

Gold Star to skully, you caught on fast! :D Hmm...maybe I should make that a dozen doughnuts instead? :lol: :D

skully
06-07-2010, 08:53 PM
:rotfl:

jbshmdfb
06-07-2010, 09:25 PM
Episode 7 - Magnetic

Episode 8 - Blue

Episode 9 - Abyss

wellinglover66
06-07-2010, 09:34 PM
Episode 7 - Magnetic

Episode 8 - Static

Episode 9 - Subterranean

SGuthrie27
06-07-2010, 09:52 PM
Okay, so Jess sent me his votes via visitor message since he wasn't going to be here today (yes, I will allow the occasional absentee ballot if you know you won't be here, LOL), and he picked "Rage," "Shattered" (?!?!), and "Abyss" as his three choices.

Here are mine:

Episode 7 - Roadkill deer dinner, snowglobe to the head, or the Clana earthquake? How can a person pick just one of those three?! I will have to go with "Wrath," though "Craving" is also ridiculous, and "Magnetic" had a really stupid A-plot, in spite of the awesome Chlark kiss. ;) "Rage" didn't thrill me at all, either.

Episode 8 - "Static" was absolutely horrific. Ugh. I hate that episode. Well, it's hard to say I hate anything when it comes to Smallville, so I'll say I just really am not fond at all for that episode. :p I don't care for the lame FOTW with the pointless power. Jimmy the Infuriator was pretty silly. The dude ripping out the spines and eating them was one of the biggest gross-outs I've had in Smallville history, and that's including the vampire sorority girls eating the pizza boy in the hot tub. Bleh. "Static" just leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.

Episode 9 - I believe I picked this episode last year, and I'll have to go with it again... "Bound." I do not like this particular plot element for Lex's character. I found it to be pretty disturbing, actually. I also don't feel like the acting was all that stellar from most of the mains in this episode, for some reason. The only thing I liked about it was the Chlark elevator reenactment. "Subterranean" is just silly and boring and goofy. "Dichotic" just has a lame FOTW, but I liked seeing Clark telling Chloe and Lana off for just automatically assuming he was jealous when he tried to warn them about Ian. So, yeah, I'm definitely going with "Bound."

vyperman7
06-07-2010, 09:58 PM
Episode 7 - Magnetic - Such a bad episode. I think the only part I enjoy is when Chloe kisses Clark on the spur of the moment. Craving is also pretty damn bad as well.

Episode 8 - Static - Another crap episode. Lame FOTW and Lexana drama. Spell isn't going to win any awards, but at least it was entertaining in some parts. Static was just bad.

Episode 9 - Subterranean - Usually I enjoy episodes where Clark acts as a mentor/protector to a younger character. However, this one was the exception. Totally boring. The ONLY good moment was the ending with Lex walking through L33.1. Definitely one of the best Lex moments on the show. Still though, the rest of the episode was crap.

SGuthrie27
06-07-2010, 10:03 PM
Episode 7 - Magnetic - Such a bad episode. I think the only part I enjoy is when Chloe kisses Clark on the spur of the moment. Craving is also pretty damn bad as well.

Episode 8 - Static - Another crap episode. Lame FOTW and Lexana drama. Spell isn't going to win any awards, but at least it was entertaining in some parts. Static was just bad.

Episode 9 - Subterranean - Usually I enjoy episodes where Clark acts as a mentor/protector to a younger character. However, this one was the exception. Totally boring. The ONLY good moment was the ending with Lex walking through L33.1. Definitely one of the best Lex moments on the show. Still though, the rest of the episode was crap.

LOL, I love everything you said here, Ryan. That's the same basic assessment I have of all three episodes, and I'm glad to see that we have the same favorite moment in "Magnetic," LOL. And yeah, I didn't buy the bond between Clark and Javier (or whatever his name was) at all in "Subterranean." The Jed McNally groundhog FOTW element was incredibly dumb as well. :p

vyperman7
06-07-2010, 10:05 PM
The Jed McNally groundhog FOTW element was incredibly dumb as well. :p

"Groundhog" LMAO :lol:Hilarious Jeff...

SGuthrie27
06-07-2010, 10:06 PM
"Groundhog" LMAO :lol:Hilarious Jeff...

LOL, thanks, Ryan -- that's just how I always thought of the character. Maybe if Clark got one of those massive mole-trap/killing devices... :p

costas22
06-07-2010, 10:22 PM
Episode 7: Craving
Episode 8: Static
Episode 9: Pandora

RaniaLovesClois
06-07-2010, 11:59 PM
Episode 7: Craving
Episode 8: Static
Episode 9: Abyss

MrsK
06-08-2010, 12:11 AM
Episode 7 - Magnetic
Episode 8 - Blue; Static was a close second
Episode 9 - Dichotic

Xanderman
06-08-2010, 12:46 AM
Episode 7: Magnetic (also weak: Wrath, Lineage)
Episode 8: Blue (also weak: Solitude, Static)
Episode 9: Subterranean (also weak: Bound, Lexmas)


(Funny recaps by the way SGuthrie27, I got a good chuckle out of them. The Identity one was my fave.)

Jaderoyale
06-08-2010, 04:37 AM
Episode 7; Craving
Episode 8; Static
Episode 9; Abyss

utguardian
06-08-2010, 05:05 AM
Episode 7: Wrath
Episode 8: Static
Episode 9: Abyss

BadToad
06-08-2010, 06:42 AM
Episode 7 - Magnetic

Episode 8 - Static

Episode 9 - Abyss

marcella
06-08-2010, 07:04 AM
Episode 7: Magnetic (Craving is not that bad)
Episode 8: Static
Episode 9: Subterranean

Degobunny
06-08-2010, 07:55 AM
Episode 7
Identity - worst episode of season 8, JMHO. I hate that the writers tried to make Jimmy likeable. this could have been a better episode if it had been Lois suspecting Clark was the Blur. I also hate the way Chloe was portrayed in this episode in the end. I feel the last scene was a diliberate attempt to destroy Chloe's character.

Episode 8:
Static - another episode wasted on trying to make Jimmy a likeable character, and Clark was given a pointless b-plot.

Episode 9:
Subterranean - Smallville and politics do not mix.

LordOnox
06-08-2010, 01:07 PM
Episode 7: Craving
Episode 8: Static
Episode 9: Bound

lana 9
06-08-2010, 02:20 PM
episode 7 magnetic

episode 8 static

episode 9 pandora

CallMeClark
06-09-2010, 07:51 AM
Episode - Rage
Episode 8 -Static
Episode 9 - Subterranean (Worst episode ever, IMO). :lol:

(Season 6 was my least favorite...)

SparkleforSmallville
06-09-2010, 08:23 AM
Episode 7: Magnetic
Episode 8: Static
Episode 9: Subterranean

SGuthrie27
06-09-2010, 08:31 AM
Wow, the 7th and 8th episode winners look pretty obvious at this point, but there's only one point separating two episode choices in the 9th episode category... One more day of voting remains -- which episode will reign supreme as the worst of its slot?!

----- Added 6 Minutes later -----


Episode 7: Magnetic (also weak: Wrath, Lineage)
Episode 8: Blue (also weak: Solitude, Static)
Episode 9: Subterranean (also weak: Bound, Lexmas)


(Funny recaps by the way SGuthrie27, I got a good chuckle out of them. The Identity one was my fave.)

Thanks, Xanderman! :) I appreciate it, LOL! I had fun writing 'em, even though it is pretty hard to make a lot of the better episodes sound bad. :p

Amelie
06-09-2010, 09:58 AM
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, Jeff! :)


Episode 7:
S3 - Magnetic - Seth Nelson gets bashed in the head with a snowglobe for giving Lana preferential treatment at the carnival (stalker!) and gains the ability to move metal objects with his mind... and control people’s brain chemistry to make them like him. Well, Lana likes him anyway. The rest of the world seems to barely tolerate his existence, and the fact he got taken down in a Tunnel of Love ride shows how lame this FOTW villain really was. This episode did feature a Chlarky kiss, though, so it can’t be THAT bad. ;)


Episode 8:
S6 - Static - So this dude has the awe-inspiring power to move between different frequencies, and tries to expose Lex’s cover up of his 33.1 facility, where he must’ve kept lots of people with even lamer abilities if this is the best one TPTB could come up with for use in the show. Meanwhile, a guy from the Phantom Zone played by Batista rips out people’s spines and eats ‘em for breakfast, and Martian Manhunter likes blowing holes in said evil aliens and eating Oreo cookies. Yum! :p


Episode 9:
S6 - Subterranean - Farmer Jed McNally is a veritable human groundhog with his meteor abilities, and is breaking illegal immigrant and slave labor laws left and right, which makes a certain super-powered neighbor who’s a fan of truth, justice, and... other stuff... very angry! As angry as the viewers were about this rather lame plot for an episode? Not so much, probably.


So those are my choices. These are some of the worst episodes written, though when I'm bored I'd probably still watch them! :lol::p Anyway, most episodes have some redeeming qualities but the actual stories (plots) were really weak in these three episodes so that's why I voted for them.

----- Added 50 Seconds later -----


Episode 9 - Subterranean (Worst episode ever, IMO). :lol:

(Season 6 was my least favorite...)

Season 7 was my least favorite but yes, Subterranean was a horrible episode. Who wrote it?? :confused:

dh1031
06-09-2010, 10:17 AM
Season 7 was my least favorite but yes, Subterranean was a horrible episode. Who wrote it?? :confused:

Caroline Dries wrote the episode and it was directed by Rick Rosenthal (according to the pamphlet included with the season 6 DVDs).

Amelie
06-09-2010, 10:42 AM
Caroline Dries wrote the episode and it was directed by Rick Rosenthal (according to the pamphlet included with the season 6 DVDs).
Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of her writing. But she seems nice...on Twitter that is. :)

immery
06-09-2010, 12:29 PM
Episode 7 Magnetic
Episode 8 Blue
Episode 9 Gemini

smallvillefreak24
06-09-2010, 05:41 PM
Episode 7 - Magnetic

Episode 8 - Static

Episode 9 - Bound

SGuthrie27
06-10-2010, 05:54 PM
Woo-hooo!!!! It's 13 minutes early, but I really doubt I'll get any more votes in the last few moments, so... Here are your new results for Round 3!

Episode 7: Magnetic ended up repelling far more viewers than it attracted, which wasn't all that shocking, seeing as the negative opinions far outweighed the positive ones. Okay, is that enough magnet puns for ya?

Episode 8: Is this a variation on a theme, here? First magnets, now electricity in the form of... Static! A spine-eating phantom played by a professional wrestler and a FOTW who can travel between frequencies does not a great episode of Smallville make!

Episode 9: And we have... A TIE?! WHAAAAAAAAAAT???? Okay... well, there are two things that can happen. Either somebody who DIDN'T VOTE yet can turn in their vote within the next... 10 minutes, now, or I'll just say, when you turn in your next vote, make a vote for either SUBTERRANEAN or ABYSS as the worst 9th episode. Whichever episode has more votes by the end of the next voting period (8:00 PM CST on Sunday, June 13th, 2010), will be declared the winner (loser?). :p

Here are the new episodes that you have the chance to vote for! :)

Episode 10:
S1 - Shimmer - As Lex seems bound and determined to keep his old flame, Victoria Hardwick, around, the groundskeeper’s daughter has a creepy stalkerish crush on him, though she’s not the one that’s been rubbing kryptonite-fertilized green rose petals all over themselves to make them invisible and try to drown people in bathrooms and cut themselves on random pieces of glass to get caught and dunked in paint.
S2 - Skinwalker - Is Bella’s would-be werewolf boyfriend stalking the cast of Smallville? Oops, nope, it’s Kyla Willowbrook, a Native American gal with a rather cardboard quality to her acting that doesn’t make her passion for keeping the Kawatche Caves sacred all that convincing, even though that setting does open up several seasons’ worth of interesting storylines.
S3 - Whisper - So this dude can jiggle his adam’s apple up and down really fast and emit this high-pitched screechy noise that makes people clutch their ears in pain -- and leads Clark’s heat vision to backfire when it hits a flying piece of random kryptonite jewelry, temporarily blinding him! To make matters worth, Pete gets kidnapped and stuck in a car crusher, which might be symbolic of the horror that will occur a season later in the stupid episode, “Velocity.”
S4 - Scare - Jason gets stabbed in the gut by Lana, Clark gets bashed in the head by a meteor by his would-be lady love, Lex is president/harbinger of war and destruction, Chloe’s institutionalized, and Lana is a zombie lizard (and not the kind you can see weekly on ABC’s “V”). If you haven’t guessed already, these are all nightmares -- but is the episode itself a nightmare, too? You decide...
S5 - Fanatic - What could cause a girl to dye her hair brown, then shave it all off, and try to force Lois Lane to assassinate Jonathan Kent, candidate for State Senate? Is it really an obsession with Lex Luthor, or could it simply be a response of desperation in the face of such a lame episode?
S6 - Hydro - Tori Spelling on Smallville. ‘Nuff said? Maybe, maybe not, ‘cause some folks liked her catty, obnoxious portrayal of a gossip columnist who can turn herself into water, wield a nail gun, and turn Clark’s, Lana’s, and Lex’s private lives upside down.
S7 - Persona - Clark tells Lana everything she’s always wanted to hear! He’s ready to sweep her off her feet, devote himself completely to her, and fly away with her to Paris to continue their whirlwind romance (Vol. 5). Only, oops... it’s not Clark after all, but his phantom-produced glitchy clone, Bizarro. Awkward!!!
S8 - Bride - What would a Chimmy wedding on Smallville be without a monstrous wedding crasher? And not only does Lana reappear to kick Ollie in the gut, lay the verbal smackdown on Clark, and interrupt a Clois dance without a tornado in tow, but Doomsday shows up, too, to abduct the bride and reinfect Chloe with Brainiac. Meanwhile, Clark is confused by cufflinks, and you can download information off of servers without them actually being attached to anything. Plus, shooting mannequins first and asking questions later is apparently not a policy that only applies to the creepy Old Navy Supermodelquin commercials. :p
S9 - Disciple - No lovers, no allies, no disciples, no characterization for the villain! Yeah, yeah, he’s got a gruff, growly voice, and he looks like Ollie in the darkness, and he’s got these connections to a Celtic group of bow-and-arrow-wielding assassins, but I’ve got a serious problem with a character who has very few lines, next-to-no personality, and a name that isn’t mentioned often enough or intelligibly enough for me to spell it correctly in this recap.

Episode 11:
S1 - Hug - How about we shake on it? You’d better make sure that Bob Rickman isn’t the one asking you this question, or you could end up in a world of trouble, as he can cause people to obey his every command with this simple friendly gesture, including but not limited to selling yourself out of house and home, attacking someone with a baseball bat, and burning up your own luxury sports car and best friend with gasoline. Luckily Kyle Tippet is also on hand, with the same powers, to offer characters the opportunity at minty-mouthed kisses and convenient plot resolution.
S2 - Visage - Whitney returns from his stint with the Marine Corps as a hero in uniform, ready to resume his relationship with Lana, even if it means popping the question, eloping, bludgeoning a fellow Marine to death, and shape-shifting into Clark to give Lana what she really wants. Oh, wait... it’s not really Whitney, as he’s already dead. It’s Tina Greer. Ewwwww!!!!!!!
S3 - Delete - Martha is malevolently wielding farm implements! Clark’s careening his truck into the side of a Smallville High van! Lionel’s taking back his computers! Lana’s chopping up lockers with an axe and freaking out other ladies in the locker room! Adam knows kung-fu! And EVERYone seems to want to kill Chloe! And it’s all linked to... hypnotic suggestion via subliminal messages hidden in e-mail binary codes?! Huh? At least Chloe lives to write articles for another day (and multiple seasons)!
S4 - Unsafe - On this “very special edition of Smallville,” Chloe and Lana have some very adult conversations, Jason does not react to a bazillion candles in a way that Lana or the viewers expect, and Alicia Baker becomes Mrs. Clark Kent after running away with him to Vegas! No, this is not the Bizarro World version of Smallville -- it’s red kryptonite round 4, baby!
S5 - Lockdown - There are aliens among us!!! At least, that’s what two unhinged deputies want the populace of Smallville to believe, and they’re willing to do anything to prove it, including shooting Lex, abducting Lana, and nearly blowing her up! Luckily Clark is on hand to save the day... even though this super-save may have not gone unnoticed... dun-dun-DUN! Oh, and Sheriff Adams bites the bullet... literally. *sniff* :(
S6 - Justice - Aquaman! Cyborg! Green Arrow! Impulse! Boy Scout! Watchtower! That’s right, the Justice -- uh, Gang, is all here, and they’re gonna take down Lex Luthor’s Level 33.1 facilities once and for all, and with cool slow-mo walks backed by roaring flames to show for all their hard work! I don’t know how to describe this episode the least bit negatively, so why bother trying?
S7 - Siren - Uh oh, we’ve got another screamer on our hands! But this one is the blonde bombshell known as Black Canary, whose hobbies include corporate espionage, stealing stuff and kidnapping vigilantes for Lex Luthor, and smacking Lois Lane into unconsciousness. Yup, we’ve got a hero in the making here, folks, make no mistake!
S8 - Legion - Chloe Sullivan must die! That’s the Legion of Super-Heroes’ mantra when they time-travel centuries into the past to take down the Persuader, only to discover that there’s a greater threat looming in the form of Brainiac -- or shall we call her Chloeiac, catalyst for the coming Doomsday, and cause of people to stare with vacant expressions at their televisions and computer screens. Or maybe they’re all just re-watching “Devoted.” Either way, Clark leads them on the right path, and Lana learns she will have a magnificent journey and role to play that’s all her own. Awwww... :p
S9 - Absolute Justice Pt. 1 (Society) - The Star-Spangled Kid (actually, Star-Spangled Middle-Aged Guy is more accurate) gets a few unwanted and fatal body piercings due to the vicious attack of the Icicle, and the Sandman, albeit while wearing a much cooler mask and costume while dying, is the next to fall! Never fear, though, folks -- Chloe, Clark, and Oliver are on the case, and when this Scoobying crew is on the trail, you know it’s gonna lead to... the reunification of the Justice Society of America?! Cool!

Episode 12:
S1 - Leech - Clark goes powerless for the first time, and a dude that looks like he could be Jimmy’s (*cough*Henry James*cough*) twin brother is the new “Superboy” in town -- but he’s one who is more interesting in tossing cop cars onto the roof, menacing jealous football jocks, and tossing Clark through a fence! Er... maybe he’s not so “super” after all...
S2 - Insurgence - And the moral of this story is... make sure you do in-depth background checks on business-bugging squads before you hire them to give your dad’s office an extreme makeover. At least, that’s the lesson that Lex learns the hard way when his plans go awry, Martha and Lionel become kidnapped, Maggie Sawyer’s on the case, Jonathan’s mad he doesn’t get his fried chicken picnic with his woman, and Clark has to make one giant leap for Kryptonian kind to save the day! On, and we also learn that the best place to hide octagonal disks is in flour canisters.
S3 - Hereafter - “I see soon-to-be-dead people... all the time!” No, this isn’t quite a remake of the Sixth Sense... Instead, it’s the life story of recent addition to Smallville High, the formerly home-schooled and rather xenophobic Jordan Cross, who uses his abilities to foresee a suicidal coach getting hit by a car (a death averted by Clark), Lana and cheerleader pal Megan getting burned alive (Lana flambe! -- also averted), Clark going on foooooooreeeeeeveeeeeeeer, and the fact that Adam Knight is... already dead?! What?!? There goes my Adam = Bruce Wayne theory.
S4 - Pariah - Chloe learns the secret! Chloe learns the secret! Jason’s almost strangled, Lana’s nearly suffocated, Clark’s ragin’ mad, and Alicia gets lynched, but... Chloe learns the secret!
S5 - Reckoning - Clark asks Lana to marry him! Jonathan gets elected to the senate! Lana dies! And then comes back! Like a phoenix! But only... not! And Jonathan has to die instead! BOO!!!!
S6 - Labyrinth - Clark and Chloe are both crazy, Jor-El is a hand sanitizer, Raya is a rather gruff nurse, Lana redecorated the loft with her... style... Martha’s married to Lionel, and Lex got both his legs amputated after his car ran into Clark on the bridge! Is it all in Clark’s head, or some sort of nightmarish dream? It’d better be, since Chloe gets shot in it!
S7 - Fracture - Apparently Lana’s not the only one who attracts a gaggle of stalkers, as amnesiac Kara -- er, Linda Danvers -- is kidnapped by a psycho waiter buddy who wants to be something more before she can run off with Lex, who’s known where she’s been for the past few WEEKS! Lex gets shot in the head, Clark enters his brain and takes a weird memory tour using technology that was mothballed but preserved by Lionel, and Clark learns the hallway that some doors in Lex Luthor’s mental corridors should definitely... not... be... opened!
S8 - Bulletproof - Clark goes undercover to discover the truth about a group of dirty cops who have appointed themselves as judge, jury, and executioner of certain criminals. Can Clark convince his crime-fighting partner Dan Turpin to see the error of his buddies’ ways before it’s too late? And why does the episode end with Clark kissing Lana (again with the Clana roller coaster?!) and saying that maybe the world DOESN’T HAVE TO COME FIRST?!?! What is up with this not-so-super-heroic logic (or lack thereof)?!?
S9 - Absolute Justice Pt. 2 (Legends) - The Icicle’s slaying streak continues as he murders his own dear-old dad (due to a set-up by the heroes) and poor Dr. Fate, after the helmeted mystic hurls a heaping helping of future event anvils on the cast of Smallville! Also, Martian Manhunter, Ollie, and Chloe go out for dinner, Lois takes a turn at living a double-life, Amanda Waller introduces us to the Suicide Squad, and Tess Mercer’s on the chessboard, too! The plot thickens...

wellinglover66
06-10-2010, 06:00 PM
Episode 10: Scare
Episode 11: Lockdown
Episode 12: Fracture

Supsfan
06-10-2010, 06:37 PM
Episode 10: Shimmer

One of the worst episodes from S1(I rate only Crush worse). Boring FOTW, bland storyline, only saving grace was Victoria Hardwick bathtub scene(so much for people claiming Smallville started using gratuitous sexy scenes in later seasons as a crutch. lol). Not a terrible episode, but it was slightly below average

Episode 11: Delete

Not a bad episode by any stretch just I like every other episode 11 better. Episode 11 might deserve a N/A instead

Episode 12: Reckoning

I hated the whole Clark dies, Jor-El revives him and somebody has to die in his place storyline which ruined a good portion of S5. This is probably the second worst Jor-El causes drama based storyline(worst being the whole Calling-Exile run) on the show and was unnneeded. Beyond the crappy Jor-El storyline I find time reversal episodes a complete waste of time, it's like hey why don't we show some fans what they been waiting to see for years(Lana being proposed to) only to reverse it later to me is rather pointless storytelling and shows a serious lack of creativity from the producers. The showrunners tried to make this episode "Epic", but it was an epic fail in my eyes due to all the unneeded drama and cheap time reversal gimmick. If the show really wanted to get rid of Jonathon, couldn't they just have him die in a fashion that Clark didn't blame himself for(in all reality the show made a huge mistake which character to get rid of, they should have kept Jonathon in S5 and had Clark move on in his life and get rid of all his High School Buddies as he goes to college)

Tiebreaker: Abyss

BadToad
06-10-2010, 06:37 PM
Episode 10 - Fanatic
Episode 11 - Lockdown
Episode 12 - Pariah

Tiebreaker: Abyss

costas22
06-10-2010, 06:49 PM
Episode 10 - Fanatic
Episode 11 - Lockdown
Episode 12 - Fracture

SGuthrie27
06-10-2010, 06:52 PM
REMINDER: I NEED YOU TO ALSO POST A TIE-BREAKER VOTE BETWEEN ABYSS AND SUBTERRANEAN! VOTE FOR WHICH 9TH EPISODE OF THOSE TWO YOU BELIEVE IS TRULY THE WORST! Thank you. :)

skully
06-10-2010, 06:53 PM
Episode 10 - Shimmer - Just quite lame.
Episode 11 - Visage - Ugh, 35 minutes of angry Tina-in-Whitney until she skewered herself.
Episode 12 - Bulletproof - Li'l Lex saved Fracture.

Tie breaker - Subterranean.

wellinglover66
06-10-2010, 06:54 PM
Tiebreaker: Subterranean (my original vote)

costas22
06-10-2010, 06:55 PM
Tie breaker: Subterranean.

utguardian
06-10-2010, 07:04 PM
Episode 10 - Persona
Episode 11 - Lockdown
Episode 12 - Fracture

Tiebreaker - Abyss

jpfort1957
06-10-2010, 07:10 PM
Tie breaker: Subterranean

Nanda Lane
06-10-2010, 08:39 PM
Episode 10 - Disciple

Episode 11 - Visage

Episode 12 - Reckoning

Tiebreaker: Abyss

dh1031
06-10-2010, 08:50 PM
Episode 10 - Bride - Jeff's hilarious summary of the episode that included this great bit, Plus, shooting mannequins first and asking questions later is apparently not a policy that only applies to the creepy Old Navy Supermodelquin commercials., made this one too funny not to vote for. :D

Episode 11 - Unsafe - Wedding in Las Vegas, Smallville style...need I say more?? :rolleyes:

Episode 12 - Bulletproof - How does Trevor Chapell from S1 Hothead suddenly become Dan Turpin???

Tie-breaker - Abyss

lana 9
06-10-2010, 10:06 PM
episode 10 fanatic

episode 11 unsave

episode 12 reckoning

tie breaker abyss

jbshmdfb
06-11-2010, 12:10 AM
Episode 10 - Shimmer

Episode 11 unsave

Episode 12 - Bulletproof

Tie-breaker - Abyss

vyperman7
06-11-2010, 12:56 AM
Jeff,

Word of advice regarding the tie.

It works better when you let people know there was a tie, start a sudden death round for the two episodes that tied and have it go for a few days, then once the tie is settled you start the next round.

LordOnox
06-11-2010, 03:05 AM
Episode 10: Shimmer
Episode 11: Lockdown
Episode 12: Fracture

Tie breaker: Subterranean

RaniaLovesClois
06-11-2010, 03:35 AM
Episode 10 - Shimmer
Episode 11 - Lockdown
Episode 12 - Bulletproof

Tie breaker: Abyss

SGuthrie27
06-11-2010, 04:53 AM
Thanks for the word of advice, Ryan. In the future, I just might do that, but I was so excited about the next round of eps, that I wanted to keep things moving, LOL! :)

skully
06-11-2010, 05:06 AM
Do you have neough votes to declare the Epi 9 "winner", SG?

SGuthrie27
06-11-2010, 05:15 AM
Probably, yeah, but I told people I'd wait and keep counting/collecting votes until the end of this voting period (on Sunday).

marcella
06-11-2010, 06:51 AM
Episode 10: Fanatic
Episode 11: Visage
Episode 12: Reckoning

tie-breaker: Abyss

CallMeClark
06-11-2010, 12:00 PM
Tie-Breaker: SUBTERRANEAN

Episode 10: S5 - Fanatic
Episode 11: S5 - Lockdown
Episode 12: S3 - Reckoning

SparkleforSmallville
06-11-2010, 01:54 PM
Episode 10: Shimmer
Episode 11: Lockdown
Episode 12: Fracture

Tie breaker: Subterranean

Jaderoyale
06-11-2010, 02:52 PM
Episode 10; Shimmer
Episode 11; Visage
Episode 12; Fracture

TIE BREAKER; ABYSS

super_j_man
06-11-2010, 05:35 PM
Episode 10: Scare - A set of some pretty bad episodes can be found in the 10th epi list. I choose Scare. Anytime Smallville goes scary movie, the more unlike superman the show really is!

Episode 11: Unsafe - It's between this and Visage for me. I can't stand the Vegas scene with Clark and Alicia. A little too cheesy and over the top for my tastes.

Episode 12: Fracture - This was actually a pretty good set of episodes.........Fracture just wasn't my favorite....

Supsfan
06-11-2010, 05:42 PM
Episode 10: Scare - A set of some pretty bad episodes can be found in the 10th epi list. I choose Scare. Anytime Smallville goes scary movie, the more unlike superman the show really is!

I never get the hate for Scare. I am not a fan of the episode but to me Scare and Splinter were both somewhat similar yet Splinter seems to be loved by alot while Scare gets crapped all over. To me Splinter was slightly better but it wasn't that much different or better.

skully
06-11-2010, 05:48 PM
I think TW's outstanding performance in Splinter is what gives that epi its rep. I too don't mind Scare and would never vote it in the "Worst of" category. :)

Supsfan
06-11-2010, 05:56 PM
I think TW's outstanding performance in Splinter is what gives that epi its rep. I too don't mind Scare and would never vote it in the "Worst of" category. :)

As I said I don't get disliking one of the 2 episodes but raving about the other when the concepts of both are very similar. I am guessing if Splinter happened before Scare people would use the fact that Scare was a Splinter ripoff against it, but they don't point out how the opposite is true in this case and use it as a negative against Splinter.

Both epsiodes to me are middle of the road(basically there is many worse episodes and many better). I sort of felt it was ironic that the next episode also borrowed a storyline from Fever basically(so it basically was 2 episode rehashes in a row).

super_j_man
06-11-2010, 06:13 PM
I never get the hate for Scare. I am not a fan of the episode but to me Scare and Splinter were both somewhat similar yet Splinter seems to be loved by alot while Scare gets crapped all over. To me Splinter was slightly better but it wasn't that much different or better.

I guess I never really thought of it that way.........but for some reason I still just can't get into Scare. I agree with Skully, Splinter had a great TW performance, it had Brainiac (Milton Fine at the time), and Silver K which was not a new type of kryptonite but a rock with Brainiac's 'goo' (lack of a better word :o) on it.

MrsK
06-11-2010, 08:30 PM
Episode 10 - Fanatic
Episode 11 - Lockdown
Episode 12 - Fracture

Tie breaker: Subterranean.

Supsfan
06-11-2010, 08:33 PM
I guess I never really thought of it that way.........but for some reason I still just can't get into Scare. I agree with Skully, Splinter had a great TW performance, it had Brainiac (Milton Fine at the time), and Silver K which was not a new type of kryptonite but a rock with Brainiac's 'goo' (lack of a better word :o) on it.

On the flip side Scare had Clark being proactive and fixing the problem himself(to me that has to be worth something)

super_j_man
06-11-2010, 08:48 PM
Almost forgot:

tie-breaker: Subterranean

I actually liked Abyss. Subterranean........not so much.

MrsK
06-11-2010, 09:05 PM
Almost forgot:

tie-breaker: Subterranean

I actually liked Abyss. Subterranean........not so much.
Me, too, Jess.:)

Supsfan
06-11-2010, 09:37 PM
I actually liked Abyss. Subterranean........not so much.

I think Abyss is a case if you like Chloe you'll probably like it at worst, but if you don't really care about the character it's pointless(to the point even Subterranean more entertaining despite all it's problems. lol)

super_j_man
06-11-2010, 09:47 PM
I think Abyss is a case if you like Chloe you'll probably like it at worst, but if you don't really care about the character it's pointless(to the point even Subterranean more entertaining despite all it's problems. lol)

I disagree. This was the season that started to not like Chloe again. So I'm not the biggest Chloe fan ever. What I liked about this episode was the suspense, the unique use of Brainiac, and Chloe's memories of the past (including the scene from Vessel and the teenage Clark/Chloe scene). I didn't think it was pointless at all. It helped set up what would eventually be Brainiac taking full control of Chloe.

Supsfan
06-11-2010, 10:06 PM
I didn't think it was pointless at all. It helped set up what would eventually be Brainiac taking full control of Chloe.

Well let's see, Clark takes Brainiac out of Chloe and doesn't give her all her memories back. In the next episode Brainiac re-infects Chloe, and by the end of Legion she has her memories back. What eactly happened in Abyss that was a game changer for the rest of the season again?

I guess one could make the arguement that well the FOS was rebuild but the show could have easily had Clark rebuild the FOS in Bloodline to save Kara(which for arguement sake would have made that episode better then the stupid Chloe saves Clark moment from Bloodline)


the unique use of Brainiac

To be honest I would rather they had a not so unique use of Brianiac(ie get James Marsters back for a guest appearance)

skully
06-11-2010, 11:19 PM
I disagree. This was the season that started to not like Chloe again. So I'm not the biggest Chloe fan ever. What I liked about this episode was the suspense, the unique use of Brainiac, and Chloe's memories of the past (including the scene from Vessel and the teenage Clark/Chloe scene). I didn't think it was pointless at all. It helped set up what would eventually be Brainiac taking full control of Chloe.Agreed on Abyss. It is a much under-rated episode with an outstanding performance from AM, and pivotal to the arrival of Chloiac.

Supsfan
06-11-2010, 11:30 PM
Agreed on Abyss. It is a much under-rated episode with an outstanding performance from AM, and pivotal to the arrival of Chloiac.

How was it pivotal? Brainiac infected her in Artic, to me that was "pivotal". In Abyss Clark took Brainiac out of her but he found a way to reinfect her the next episode.