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mimi1123
05-15-2008, 09:59 PM
This was the first time I actually thought Laura Vandervoort did a good job acting on SV. I've found her to be pretty hard to watch all season, but from the moment she attacked ET on the plane, I was really impressed. Actually, the fact that she was so much better than usual made it really obvious to me from the beginning that she must be Brainiac. Once it hit me, I could see subtle facial expressions that were very Marsters-ish. She did a nice job!

colonyofcells
05-15-2008, 10:07 PM
She seems to whisper too much and I often cannot hear what she is saying. Maybe I am just getting old.
She did seem better in Apocalypse and in Arctic.

MetropolisGirl4SV
05-15-2008, 10:13 PM
This was the first time I actually thought Laura Vandervoort did a good job acting on SV. I've found her to be pretty hard to watch all season, but from the moment she attacked ET on the plane, I was really impressed. Actually, the fact that she was so much better than usual made it really obvious to me from the beginning that she must be Brainiac. Once it hit me, I could see subtle facial expressions that were very Marsters-ish. She did a nice job!

Exactly this is the first time I've actually seen some potential in LV, in all the other epi's she was just a pretty face. Her acting was very good, I think she got a few pointers from MR.:lol:

svsabbiesv
05-15-2008, 10:14 PM
yea she's pretty good when it comes to being evil lol

Twitch
05-15-2008, 10:26 PM
I think Laura did a fantastic job in this episode! Her best acting was in the apartment with Chloe.

"Check the expiration date?"

She delivered that line PERFECTLY! She had the James Marsters mannerisms going on and everything, awesome stuff.

Billy Jor-El
05-15-2008, 10:27 PM
Thought she did a great job ;) But when she busted the hole in the plane and grabbed Teague by the neck, all I could think was that it was Brainiac, not Kara. Glad I pegged that one right....!

LexLuv180
05-15-2008, 11:54 PM
I thought she was just ok myself.

X-Terminator
05-16-2008, 02:11 AM
I've always thought Laura did a great job playing Kara. Especially considering how hard it must have been for her to come on as a regular cast member so late in the series.
The only problem I have with her acting is that she sometimes slips into a Canadian accent, which sounds really weird coming from a character born and raised on Krypton.

Vergon6
05-16-2008, 02:20 AM
I've always thought Laura did a great job playing Kara. Especially considering how hard it must have been for her to come on as a regular cast member so late in the series.
The only problem I have with her acting is that she sometimes slips into a Canadian accent, which sounds really weird coming from a character born and raised on Krypton.
Hehe. Well I guess it's no different than most of the Empire in Star Wars having British accents but obviously not being from England ;)

Yasise
05-16-2008, 02:21 AM
Exactly this is the first time I've actually seen some potential in LV, in all the other epi's she was just a pretty face. Her acting was very good, I think she got a few pointers from MR.:lol:

I agree. Till now her acting was so "talent-free" that I was barely able to get through her scenes - but as the evil Kara a.k.a Brainiac in disguise she did a quite good job - finally!

Maybe she should always be "evil Kara", it seems to be easier for her to play an evil character.

But I'm afraid she'll be rescued from the Phantom Zone next season and then be back to her usual "bad" acting. :(

iMack
05-16-2008, 02:24 AM
She did great! I was a bit surprised.

mmortal03
05-16-2008, 02:45 AM
When she was confronting Teague and Lex I thought she was a bit stiff, but maybe that is how aliens who didn't grow up on Earth talk?

curiosity
05-16-2008, 02:47 AM
This was the first time I actually thought Laura Vandervoort did a good job acting on SV. I've found her to be pretty hard to watch all season, but from the moment she attacked ET on the plane, I was really impressed. Actually, the fact that she was so much better than usual made it really obvious to me from the beginning that she must be Brainiac. Once it hit me, I could see subtle facial expressions that were very Marsters-ish. She did a nice job!

That's because Kara was boring with no personality until they made her Brainic, IMO.

maryjanewatson
05-16-2008, 03:47 AM
Exactly this is the first time I've actually seen some potential in LV, in all the other epi's she was just a pretty face. Her acting was very good, I think she got a few pointers from MR.:lol:

....if you say so.....

stenochick
05-16-2008, 09:34 AM
Speaking of Kara...Now that we know that Brainiac was impersonating Kara, I went back and watched the end of Apocolypse. The only way it makes sense is that it was the real Kara smashing the boulder over Brainiac's head when he is laughing maniacally. This is because right before that Brainiac hits Kara in the mouth and she bleeds a little.

Then there is a close-up of Clark putting baby Kal-el in the ship. This must be when Brainiac trapped Kara in the PZ. Then Kara comes back and says that Brainiac is gone and they need to leave quickly. This must be Brainiac, right? But then why wouldn't Bainiac kill the baby and Clark at that point? I mean Clark is in a weakened state.

Why would Brainiac come back to Earth with Clark, drink milk in his hot white pajamas in the middle of the night and then suffer a Kryptonian migraine, and then have to resort to Plan B which is finding the Veritas device that controls the traveler.

Any ideas? I am so confused.:confused:

WickedJenn
05-16-2008, 09:41 AM
I think Laura did a fantastic job in this episode! Her best acting was in the apartment with Chloe.

"Check the expiration date?"

She delivered that line PERFECTLY! She had the James Marsters mannerisms going on and everything, awesome stuff.

Agreed, I thought she did a great job. And she did have Brainiac down pat, IMO.

Even her facial expressions were great, you could almost see the evil in her eyes.

yoda1138777
05-16-2008, 09:51 AM
Speaking of Kara...Now that we know that Brainiac was impersonating Kara, I went back and watched the end of Apocolypse. The only way it makes sense is that it was the real Kara smashing the boulder over Brainiac's head when he is laughing maniacally. This is because right before that Brainiac hits Kara in the mouth and she bleeds a little.

Then there is a close-up of Clark putting baby Kal-el in the ship. This must be when Brainiac trapped Kara in the PZ. Then Kara comes back and says that Brainiac is gone and they need to leave quickly. This must be Brainiac, right? But then why wouldn't Bainiac kill the baby and Clark at that point? I mean Clark is in a weakened state.

Why would Brainiac come back to Earth with Clark, drink milk in his hot white pajamas in the middle of the night and then suffer a Kryptonian migraine, and then have to resort to Plan B which is finding the Veritas device that controls the traveler.

Any ideas? I am so confused.:confused:

Maybe he wanted to get rid of one and try to control the other or thought that it would be easier to let Lex a human use the orb to control and help him kill Clark. Otherwise back on pseudo-Krypton he would have been to hard to kill?:)

As for Kara/ LV's acting she can do no wrong :)

dunkman
05-16-2008, 10:00 AM
This was definitely the best acting Laura Vandervoort has done so far! I knew she was Brainiac, even though she looked like Kara, & that's good acting. I was surprised. Maybe when she realized they were putting Kara in the Phantom Zone, she thought, "I'd better step it up a notch, or TPTB might decide to leave me there!"
Laura didn't really hide her Canadian accent as well as Kristin or Lois, but how do we know they don't have Canadian accents on Krypton?
I thought Kristin Kreuk did the best acting when she was possessed by a witch or a vampire, even though those weren't my favorite episodes. Maybe it's easier to be evil! Tom Welling did some of his best as Bizarro, too, although he's always a good actor.

LoveHurts38
05-16-2008, 10:10 AM
She did great in the Chloe scene.

Who
05-16-2008, 10:24 AM
LV's acting is always right on. She was particularly good in this episode.

MetroGirl06
05-16-2008, 11:00 AM
Its just more fun to be evil :D

stenochick
05-16-2008, 11:08 AM
Maybe he wanted to get rid of one and try to control the other or thought that it would be easier to let Lex a human use the orb to control and help him kill Clark. Otherwise back on pseudo-Krypton he would have been to hard to kill?:)

As for Kara/ LV's acting she can do no wrong :)

I have decided to go with the theory that it was Kara the whole time, right up to the milk migraine.

Instead of Brainiac putting her in the PZ on Krypton and morphing into her, he, being weakened by her, somehow got some or all of himself into her and hitched a ride back to earth inside her.

At some point, between the end of Apocalypse and the beginning of Artic (I guess during Quest), Brainiac got himself back together and was able to trap Kara in PZ. It was at this point that he morphed into her and began impersonating her.

Since his plan to kill or divert baby Kal-el failed, he came back to earth to kill Clark.

phoenixforce86
05-16-2008, 11:46 AM
I really enjoyed Laura´s acting in the finale also! The scene with Chloe was awesome but I also liked her scenes with Clark in the barn!

nk_84
05-16-2008, 11:59 AM
This was the first time I actually thought Laura Vandervoort did a good job acting on SV. I've found her to be pretty hard to watch all season, but from the moment she attacked ET on the plane, I was really impressed. Actually, the fact that she was so much better than usual made it really obvious to me from the beginning that she must be Brainiac. Once it hit me, I could see subtle facial expressions that were very Marsters-ish. She did a nice job!

i don't like her acting style.


Erica and Alison are prob best girls.

Super Maverick
05-16-2008, 02:18 PM
This was the first time I actually thought Laura Vandervoort did a good job acting on SV. I've found her to be pretty hard to watch all season, but from the moment she attacked ET on the plane, I was really impressed. Actually, the fact that she was so much better than usual made it really obvious to me from the beginning that she must be Brainiac. Once it hit me, I could see subtle facial expressions that were very Marsters-ish. She did a nice job!

Plus she's hot.

As hell.

haltoe
05-20-2008, 05:19 AM
Laura Vandervoort always did a great job not just in this episode of Brainiac/Kara. I detested the "Kara is Missing" plots but laura showed great versatility all the time whether she was a cocky supergirl in "Kara"---"Stay away from my stuff" or a frightened helpless amnesiac in "Blue" or a gritty fighter who took on Brainiac back on Krypton where she had no superpowers. There's no question Ms. Vandervoort can play the gamut of emotions from A to Z and Smallville is making a big, big, mistake in their apparent decision to drop her. I guess they've listened too much to Laura's critics and their stereotyped attitudes that all superhoeroes have to be male and that all blondes are dumb. The only thing that's dumb is the departure of Laura Vandervoort from Smallville.

guittarjedi
05-20-2008, 05:36 AM
It's great to see all this love for Laura Vandervoort. Everbody in here should sign the Save Kara petition.

http://www.petitiononline.com/2fdvck2q/petition.html

Yasise
05-20-2008, 05:46 AM
"Stay away from my stuff" .

This line of hers made me cringe, seriously. That wasn't superhero - like at all, IMO, that was like a five year old child would say it. Not even near to what I would imagine a kryptonian would say it. Sorry.



There's no question Ms. Vandervoort can play the gamut of emotions from A to Z.......

Are we talking about the same Ms. Vandervoort???? "can ply the gamut of emotions" and the Ms. Vandervoort I'm thinking of are worlds apart from each other. I've never seen a less talented actress till I've seen her. She still has to learn a lot but you can't learn talent - you have it or you haven't and she, IMO, doesn't have any talent, "only" good looks.


and Smallville is making a big, big, mistake in their apparent decision to drop her. I guess they've listened too much to Laura's critics......

No mistake at all, IMO. Thank God that season 8 will be almost without her.:)

DavetheAvatar
05-20-2008, 08:03 AM
I agree that LV really improved in this episode. Watching her scene with Lex, I remember thinking "Hey, you know she's not doing too bad this week." No offence meant to Laura as an actress but I have found her a little lacking in emotion. It's not that she's completely cold, just that it feels unnatural to watch, like you're seeing somebody acting.

I think maybe she does better when she's actually trying to imitate someone. Her Kara/Brainiac definitely came across to me as Brainiac trying to act like Kara, so well done to her there. I know she can act now so I just hope whatever form they bring her back in the future, she shows the same level of ability.

guittarjedi
05-20-2008, 02:02 PM
This line of hers made me cringe, seriously. That wasn't superheroe - like at all, IMO, that was like a five year old child would say it.

At least they didn't give her tongue twisters like Chloe. Nine out of ten lines Chloe says sound like something you would hear on Scooby Doo.

Yasise
05-21-2008, 01:42 AM
This line of hers made me cringe, seriously. That wasn't superheroe - like at all, IMO, that was like a five year old child would say it.

At least they didn't give her tongue twisters like Chloe. .

Thank God they don't give her lines like Chloe's, because she wouldn't be able to deliver them anyway near like Allison does.
Please don't compare Allison's acting to Laura's - they are worlds apart. Allison is a very talented actress, Laura just isn't. This is a fact, I don't want to bash her or whatever. Maybe after a lot of years of practicing.....maybe she will be an acceptable actress one day...????



Nine out of ten lines Chloe says sound like something you would hear on Scooby Doo.

It actually doesn't matter WHAT lines they give an actor/actress, it matters HOW they deliver them, and there's no doubt that Chloe a.k.a. Allison is able to deliver the stupidest lines in a way no one would even question wether she does know what she's talking about or not.
That's talent, that's amazing acting, IMO.

haltoe
05-21-2008, 05:25 AM
Mr. Yasise we obviously aren't looking at the same actress.

All you have to do is decide that any good looking blonde is dumb and lacks talent. Once you've prejudged someone you can always find a reason to demean everything that person does. It's too bad Smallville's producers and writers ended up deciding to cater to your stereotyped level. Have fun watching season 8, I'm not interested in a show that's so poorly managed.

lois_lane-kent
05-21-2008, 05:43 AM
I wonder if Laura got some tips from James before filming for "Arctic." There was a definite improvement in Laura's acting and the Kara character (which kind of made it obvious that she was Braniac, but it didn't cheapen it).

LV's acting is always right on.
So she's supposed to have been acting like she has absolutely no personality all season?

baltazor
05-21-2008, 06:03 AM
She really did a great job in the finale. I was quite impressed with her. In fact that was one of the few good things about arctic. It makes sense though. Remember how the majority of the actors were in season 1 ??? THey got better over time. LV needed the same...

Yasise
05-21-2008, 06:25 AM
Mr. Yasise we obviously aren't looking at the same actress.

All you have to do is decide that any good looking blonde is dumb and lacks talent. Once you've prejudged someone you can always find a reason to demean everything that person does. It's too bad Smallville's producers and writers ended up deciding to cater to your stereotyped level. Have fun watching season 8, I'm not interested in a show that's so poorly managed.

1. I didn't ever mention Ms. Vandervoort's haircolour, because I don't believe that blonde people are less intelligent than brunettes. Allison M. is blonde, too, and I think she's a wonderful and amazingly talented actress!

2. I said, that, IMO, Laura V. doesn't have enough talent and that is based on the scenes I watched her in, on my personal taste and thoughts. I don't think she's a good enough actress and that has nothing to do with her being a blonde woman. Where did you get this idea from???

3. I think you should read my posts more carefully before you categorize me for having a "stereotyped level", which I don't have at all!

4. I'm not male, I'm female. You can see a (F) under my avatar. Normally it's enough to adress another poster with his nickname, you don't have to write Mr. or Mrs. before the name. Maybe if I would be a male fan of Laura V. I would have been blinded by her beauty and wouldn't mind her being so not talented at all?

Finally I would say that Laura V. is a beautiful woman, I never doubted that, but she's not a very much talented actress, IMO. Not every good looking person is meant to be a good actor/actress.
There are of course good looking people, who are very talented actors/actresses, too, like Tom Welling or Kristin Kreuk e.g., but in most of the time, it is either good looks or talent.

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She really did a great job in the finale. I was quite impressed with her. In fact that was one of the few good things about arctic. It makes sense though. Remember how the majority of the actors were in season 1 ??? THey got better over time. LV needed the same...

IMO, Tom, Kristin, Michael and Allison were very good actors right from the beginning. You could easily see that they were and are very talented actors and actresses and that is one big reason for the success of Smallville!
They didn't get "better" during the seasons they "only" got more experienced, so to speak. But all of them proved that they had so much talent right on from "The pilot".

And to Laura....well, as I said before, maybe she really needs more time to improve her acting. She didn't convince me at all in season 7.

haltoe
05-21-2008, 06:01 PM
Very well Ms. Yasise, I apologize. I was misled by the picture of a male next to your notes.

Now if I didn't comprehend all of your note you didn't comprehend mine. Let me repeat Laura played Kara as both a cocky supergirl and a frightened helpless amnesiac. She did both a superpowered rescuer and a victim in different episodes. She did fine in all of these, in other words she showed versatility and you look for that in any actor or actress.

But if your tastes can't relate to that, it's unfortunate. Sometimes people think that way because of the stereotype of the dumb blonde. Maybe you haven't been around long enough to be familiar with that.


By the way here's a link to someone who ably explained why dropping Laura is such
a big mistake, an example of poor decision making by incompetent management.

http://screenrant.com/archives/no-smallville-season-8-for-lau-1652.html

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It's great to see all this love for Laura Vandervoort. Everbody in here should sign the Save Kara petition.

http://www.petitiononline.com/2fdvck2q/petition.html

Yes I've already signed the Save Kara petition.

I guess I shouldn't show this love or at least forcefully express my approval of Laura's contribution to the show. Maybe in our odd world saying something nice about someone is offensive.

TheLeague
05-21-2008, 09:36 PM
shes not there to act shes there to make us drool :D



also KEEP KARA ON THE SHOW!! SHES AWESOME!

guittarjedi
05-21-2008, 10:16 PM
So she's supposed to have been acting like she has absolutely no personality all season?

^You have Charisma Carpenter in your icon so you really don't have much room to speak on Laura Vandervoort's acting or personality.

Anyone who would criticize LV's acting is just being ridiculous. It's not like you are going to find a girl who looks like Supergirl and acts like Meryl Streep.

Yasise
05-22-2008, 02:46 AM
Very well Ms. Yasise, I apologize. I was misled by the picture of a male next to your notes..

That "male" you're referring to is Tom Welling, as you might know, and as I'm a huge fan of his, I put him in my avatar. You're a newbie on this site, so I don't mind. Again you don't have to put Mr. or Ms. infront of anyone's nickname, but if you want to, you're of course free to do that.


Now if I didn't comprehend all of your note you didn't comprehend mine. Let me repeat Laura played Kara as both a cocky supergirl and a frightened helpless amnesiac. She did both a superpowered rescuer and a victim in different episodes. She did fine in all of these, in other words she showed versatility and you look for that in any actor or actress..

Well, let's just agree to disagree on this topic. You're obviously a Laura V. fan and that's fine with me. I don't have to be her fan and nothing will change that.


Maybe you haven't been around long enough to be familiar with that..

What do you want to say with that now? :confused: To be familiar with that stupid prejudice against blonde women, or what????


By the way here's a link to someone who ably explained why dropping Laura is such a big mistake, an example of poor decision making by incompetent management..

well, again, that's your opinion and taste, I have my opinion and taste. I'm sorry that you're sad about her leaving the show, but I think it was a good idea of that management, you've mentioned. I'm glad she won't be in season 8 so much, so I 'm not so much interested to read what's behind that link.
Smallville is about Clark and not about Kara and the last season should wrap up his story properly and not been split up between him and his cousin's story.


I guess I shouldn't show this love or at least forcefully express my approval of Laura's contribution to the show. Maybe in our odd world saying something nice about someone is offensive.

Of course you can express your feelings and show your love for Laura V. I'm doing the same when it comes to Tom Welling, so there's nothing wrong with that. That's what fans usually do.;)
You maybe should get used to the fact, that other people have different opinions and different tastes. As long as we put our love in nice words and don't be rude to each other, everything's fine with me.
I didn't bash Laura or blondes, I only tried to explain what I'm thinking of her acting.

I accept your opinion and your taste though and I hope, you do the same.

haltoe
05-22-2008, 04:59 AM
Ms. Yasise, I certainly do respect your liking for your favorite characters, I just don't care for your going out of your way to disparage mine. I responded because I didn't care for the Laura bashers. If I am a sore loser then its worse to be a sore winner. You got what you wanted. Your favorites are still on and mine is gone. You don't have to add insult to injury.

Yasise
05-22-2008, 06:21 AM
Ms. Yasise, I certainly do respect your liking for your favorite characters, I just don't care for your going out of your way to disparage mine. I responded because I didn't care for the Laura bashers. If I am a sore loser then its worse to be a sore winner. You got what you wanted. Your favorites are still on and mine is gone. You don't have to add insult to injury.

When did I insult you?:confused:

Genny
05-22-2008, 04:32 PM
This was the first time I actually thought Laura Vandervoort did a good job acting on SV. I've found her to be pretty hard to watch all season, but from the moment she attacked ET on the plane, I was really impressed. Actually, the fact that she was so much better than usual made it really obvious to me from the beginning that she must be Brainiac. Once it hit me, I could see subtle facial expressions that were very Marsters-ish. She did a nice job!

What? Are you serious? I thought Laura Vandervoort did an awesome job all season. I really enjoyed watching her throughout this season. I will agree that her performance in the finale was better then usual, but I still think she did a good job throughout the whole season. She was one of my favorites this season.

haltoe
05-22-2008, 08:02 PM
When did I insult you?:confused:

In the sense that after losing a favorite, seeing all these notes disparaging my views is like rubbing salt on a wound or adding insult to injury. Like I said you got what you wanted. You can still watch favorites on Smalville next year but people like myself who enjoyed Laura Vandervoort and her Kara character are left out in the cold. You should be happy and not feel the need to keep up the bashing.

SnowBird
05-22-2008, 09:51 PM
I enjoyed Laura's performance in the finale and I wish her all the best in her acting career. Since she isn't going to be a regular, I hope she will be back for an episode so she can have a proper farewell.

Iluvgreen
05-23-2008, 03:18 PM
She kicked this episodes ass.

MetropolisGirl4SV
05-23-2008, 07:15 PM
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In my opinion I don't see Laura Vandervoot as a A list actor in comparison with the rest of the cast. Since I feel this way doesn't mean I think she's a horrible actor and am in no way attacking her as a person. I'm just saying, she has to improve significantly in aspects of her acting.

I felt that LV did very well in Artic and proved to me that she can act and has potential in her career. In other episodes she lacks emotion and expression. She does have good shots threw the camera lens in some scenes, but she lacks depth in my opinion. However I did see some improvement along her short course in Smallville, especially Artic I can't stress this fact enough. Innate Talent is a part of acting that not so many actors posses. But that doesn't mean with experience and perseverance that a not-so talented actor can't become a great actor. And I applaud the fact that LV made such a major turn in Artic, it shows she's growing as an actress.

I also think that we should differentiate Kara the character and Laura Vandervoot the actress. If someone has an opinion that Kara is not a good character this automatically shouldn't translate as offending LV. I understand that sometimes people are so emotionally attached to the character or the actor or both that they sometimes take thinks very personally. I at times have done this myself. In my opinion we should be tolerant and understanding of others opinions even if they don't fit our own.


When did I insult you?:confused:

In Yasise defense I don't think she was attempting to insult anyone in the thread or insult LV or bash her as a person, but just was stating her opinions. There are many people that dislike my favorites on SV but I do not feel they are insulting me.

haltoe
05-24-2008, 07:21 AM
Pardon me for bringing this up but about the official season 7 Smallville DVD,
isn't that Laura Vandervoort on the cover?

It seems to me that if she was so poor at acting and played an unneeded part
then the Smallville management should be ashamed to put her on their DVD cover.
Or if she wasn't so bad, then why drop her?

Genny
05-26-2008, 10:15 PM
I still think Laura Vandervoort is a great actor and I wish she was going to be around more next season. I really enjoyed having her on the show. I know some people where saying she was emotionless and stuff, but come on she's supposed to be playing a Kryptonian. I really think Laura did a good job. Kara was supposed to be like Kryptonians because she grew up on Krypton which means she doesn't have human emotions, as an actor how exactly are you supposed to play that. As an actor at least 50% of your acting is the emotions you have when in character. What emotions do Kryptonians have besides love and hate, the most common two on Smallville. A Kryptonian would have different emotions then a human, so I think she did an awesome job.