7 long seasons of buildup up for...

[Leviathan]

... 4 crappy minutes of dialogue and what has to be the most pathetic ending to a season ever. Years and years of Lex being "that close" to finding out the secret, he finally gets there and we are treated to 4 minutes of special effects and dialogue??????? WTF>???????

Please, if there is anyone listening to me, end the series now. Let Smallville go out with dignity and yes, some loose ends that won't be tied. Anything is better than a final class-less season if the season finale is any indication of what we are in store for.

[J_woman_power]

I couldn't believe there were only 4-5 min of dialogue between Clark and Lex. I kept glancing at the clock and thinking, it's 7:50.... when is the showdown going to start??

[Superman of Krypton]

The dialogue exchange was pretty weak too. They've had much better verbal confrontations in the past.

The time for SV to end with dignity is over :p

[minerva73]

I agree. They had Lex find out about Clark being the traveler at about 20 minutes through the episode, so they could have done more to it. They tried to cram too much into one episode IMO. Handling Brainiac and Lex in one finale seems like too much.

[Minela]

It was a rather poor Clex confrontation. *sigh*

[RepairmanBob]

And yet, there was time for the Chimmy proposal, Lana's Dear Clark video and Clark crying about Lana's Dear Clark video. All of which could have been handled next season, since everyone but MR is coming back!

Epic. Fail.

[alienkinfolk]

yes the dialogue was weak and not enough. The look CK gives Lex is so weak. He doesn't even try. It's like his eyes say "Lex don't do it, don't ruin the series"
too late

[BadToad]

The Clex confrontation was ridiculously too short. There are, easily, 5-6 minutes of other stuff in this episode you could easily have cut, and done a far more longer, detailed scene in the FOS. They hardly let Clark have any dialogue.

I will never understand why this show has such a huge freaking problem with figuring out what should be a priority on this show, and what it isn't. How much facetime did Jimmy have in this episode? Too much, but Clex gets shortchanged :rolleyes:

[SpiritedDiva]

I must say, i was disappointed with the Clex confrontation as. These two have been a part of each others story for years. There should have been more to that scene. Since MR is leaving, you think they would have made more of an effort for his send off. Go figure.:rolleyes:

[myankskent]

I said this on another thread and I'll say it here, if MR was returning next season, I'd probably view the Clex ending as the best ever but given that he is not returning, does it really matter that Lex knows about Clark? Not so much. It kind of makes this entire Lex arc a complete waste of time. One more thing, there is no way that the season 8 premier is picking up from where "Arctic" left off. They didn't say "To be Continued" at the end of the episode, just like "Exodus" and "Covenant", so that means that TPTB will promptly BS their way out of the Clex ending and sweep it under the rug.

[NoSupeForYou]

I bet they do something stupid like have Lex merge into Clark. like on the cave painting. It will be like when Cartman drank Kenny's ashes, just not as funny or entertaining.

[Leviathan]

Perhaps MR, having seen what a pile of steeming dog crap the final episode was, decided it was better to go out on the note he chose, instead of the note the fool-hardy writers completed with this desicration of a season finale. For crying out loud, it makes the ending of Superman returns with SM standing over his "son" and giving that cheesy diatribe look riveting.

[ForzaItalia]

Definitely the worst Season Finale ever. I couldn’t believe how lame the dialogue was. It just doesn’t appear the producers have any plan what direction they’re going in.

[NoSupeForYou]

I think that joke Kevin Bacon told about Superman in Hollow Man was written better than this season finale.

[Leviathan]

I said this on another thread and I'll say it here, if MR was returning next season, I'd probably view the Clex ending as the best ever but given that he is not returning, does it really matter that Lex knows about Clark? Not so much. It kind of makes this entire Lex arc a complete waste of time. One more thing, there is no way that the season 8 premier is picking up from where "Arctic" left off. They didn't say "To be Continued" at the end of the episode, just like "Exodus" and "Covenant", so that means that TPTB will promptly BS their way out of the Clex ending and sweep it under the rug.

You are so right, I caught that too, thinking..... "why not to be continued?" Then I thought... BECAUSE I HOPE IT ALL ENDS NOW, FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS HOLY.

[mas91977]

Dont anyone understand what a CLIFFHANGER is? Thats what the next season is for. MR is not completly gone. I am sure he will make cameos. Especially in the first couple of episodes. He is to have control over Clark now so they have to end that battle before Lex leaves. There is so much more the show can do and there only so much they can do. Just like they cant use Bruce Wayne now or Wonder Woman because of the movies. Which still ticks me off that they made a Superman movie {which was good, just not Christopher Reeve approved}. I wish they would have used Smallville to branch off into the movie. I bet Smallville has a few more surprises left in them. Like Doomsday in the next season.

[minerva73]

Michael Rosenbaum said in an interview that he wouldn't like to return to Smallville. :\ So they had to film some scenes with him before "Arctic" which they would use next season, or he won't be in it at all. They're struggling to find actors to play their new characters, so I doubt that they'd film something for MR this early too.

[RepairmanBob]

Dont anyone understand what a CLIFFHANGER is? Thats what the next season is for. MR is not completly gone. I am sure he will make cameos. Especially in the first couple of episodes. He is to have control over Clark now so they have to end that battle before Lex leaves. There is so much more the show can do and there only so much they can do. Just like they cant use Bruce Wayne now or Wonder Woman because of the movies. Which still ticks me off that they made a Superman movie {which was good, just not Christopher Reeve approved}. I wish they would have used Smallville to branch off into the movie. I bet Smallville has a few more surprises left in them. Like Doomsday in the next season.
MR is not coming back.

MR had a press release where he said he is not coming back.

MR has been openly saying he is not coming back after season seven for awhile.

It isn't a satisfying cliffhanger for me if Lex isn;t coming back.

[Leviathan]

Dont anyone understand what a CLIFFHANGER is? Thats what the next season is for. MR is not completly gone. I am sure he will make cameos. Especially in the first couple of episodes. He is to have control over Clark now so they have to end that battle before Lex leaves. There is so much more the show can do and there only so much they can do. Just like they cant use Bruce Wayne now or Wonder Woman because of the movies. Which still ticks me off that they made a Superman movie {which was good, just not Christopher Reeve approved}. I wish they would have used Smallville to branch off into the movie. I bet Smallville has a few more surprises left in them. Like Doomsday in the next season.

What part of "Michael Rosenbaum is not returning to the show under any circumstances from this point forward" isn't more clear???

[gawkocracy]

In the new series of Doctor Who there is this unwritten rule about trailers. "never put the last 15 mins of the episode into the trailer."

I for one wounldn't have minded the end of series 7 if I hadn't seen all of it already in the trailers.

Most of use knew that Lex was going to 'The Artic' but the thing many of us wanted, was to see it. We saw it in the trailer, so when I going to watch the episode I wanted more, like Lex controling Clark. I saw that in the promos. So I wanted to see what else happened. Nothing happend that I had already seen.

I like the episode (mostly) and I guess it's more about the build up then the actual pay-off.

[Tony_Bacala]

Great 4 minutes. Should have been 15 with a fight, and a conclusion. Then move on to better things next year.

Should have been...

"I'm sorry FANS, but it had to end this way"

[WookieeBoy]

... 4 crappy minutes of dialogue and what has to be the most pathetic ending to a season ever. Years and years of Lex being "that close" to finding out the secret, he finally gets there and we are treated to 4 minutes of special effects and dialogue??????? WTF>???????

Please, if there is anyone listening to me, end the series now. Let Smallville go out with dignity and yes, some loose ends that won't be tied. Anything is better than a final class-less season if the season finale is any indication of what we are in store for.

You nailed it. I am stupidly going to tune in next season so that I can hopefully FINALLY see Clark fly, and to see how TPTB write something that makes some kind of sense to follow this season. Plus, I am just going to loyally watch the show until it ends. I am going to go down with the ship. The show has been in decline since season 5, although there was some cool stuff that season.

[colonyofcells]

7 seasons of buildup to the ultimate Lex vs Clark confrontation and all we get are some verbal exchanges interrupted by the explosion of the Fortress for no apparent reason.
Who rang the Fortress bell ? Was it the crystal apple ? Was it Jor-El ? Was it Clark's diarrhea ? Only Rao knows. Maybe the exploding Fortress is like the death knell for Smallville.

[Leviathan]

Dear God, please let it end.

I don't think I can handle a human-form Doomsday with self security issues, abilities that continue to go unused, mashed-together story arcs.

At this point, TPTB might as well introduce Otis from the original superman movies and make him the Baddie while Lex is on "sabatical"

[Brizzle]

This finale was weak and I only saw 20 min of it.

[WookieeBoy]

At this point, TPTB might as well introduce Otis from the original superman movies and make him the Baddie while Lex is on "sabatical"


:rotfl:

[Brizzle]

7 seasons of buildup to the ultimate Lex vs Clark confrontation and all we get are some verbal exchanges interrupted by the explosion of the Fortress for no apparent reason.
Who rang the Fortress bell ? Was it the crystal apple ? Was it Jor-El ? Was it Clark's diarrhea ? Only Rao knows. Maybe the exploding Fortress is like the death knell for Smallville.

haha diarrhea hahahaa:rotfl:

[Bosrudorfer]

Agree with you all, it was sad

Epic.Fail for sure

[Lord_Balthaazar]

How bland can they make one episode? Jesus.. too bad the worst episode of this season had to be the finale. And the fact that MR isn't returning is disheartening. Still, I am never one to abandon something I love, I'll still be here for next season. Just wish they didn't leave us feeling so.. hollow :(

[vikingjedi]

Just because MR isnt returning next season doesnt mean they havent already filmed a part 2 of this episode (or at least the parts that require him to appear)

Now if next season begins and they just say Lex was taken to jail or something like that and MR isn't to be seen then this finale sucked

I guess we have to wait until the season 8 premiere to really know

[svsabbiesv]

yea tell me about it!!!! I think this could have been written so much better....unless they are foolin with us and Michael coming back lol i'm praying pretty hard lol
but damn it was such a lame ending.

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

I said this on another thread and I'll say it here, if MR was returning next season, I'd probably view the Clex ending as the best ever but given that he is not returning, does it really matter that Lex knows about Clark? Not so much. It kind of makes this entire Lex arc a complete waste of time. One more thing, there is no way that the season 8 premier is picking up from where "Arctic" left off. They didn't say "To be Continued" at the end of the episode, just like "Exodus" and "Covenant", so that means that TPTB will promptly BS their way out of the Clex ending and sweep it under the rug.


If this is true...and I believe it is then SV is just a sinking ship, a tragedy...I waited seven years for this, so sad:(

[rajabell808]

in my mind, this was the worst episode of Smallville, period. There have been bad filler episodes throughout the last few years, but this was the freaking season finale and it was crap. Almost everything about this episode was bad. Way too much Jimmy. Does he have some type of dirt on the CW or something? Did we really need the chloe is going to jail storyline? Did we have to have the Clark and Lana break up this episode? Why was Lois even in it? It's not like she really served a purpose in the episode. The confrontation only lasting 5 mins....The weak dialouge in the fortress. Not a great way for MR to go out on. The only scene that I thought was good was the Chloe vs. Brainiac scene. Hopefully they taped a few things with MR so they can use it in the premeire and we can get some real closure or something close to it

[MozartRequiem]

I think everyone is too apprehensive about nothing:

They can't just end Clex that way. They just can't. They know it and most of all, they know we know it. Lex will be back in the premiere. That is part of the surprise twist, I suspect. MR probably has already filmed his final scenes for the premiere, and will then be gone forever.

Trust me, they'd have to be not only incredibly stupid, but incredibly inexperienced in the television business to think that they could end it that way and not actually show some resolution on screen.

With all of that in my mind, I LOVED that scene, and I think you all should go back and watch it from that perspective. Perhaps it could change your view on how well the scene played out? :) To me, it was a wonderful moment. You could feel the emotion in both characters. I love that Lex was not just the "wicked, supervillain" archetype, and that we could almost see where he was coming from. I could certainly feel the sense of loss as Lex held Clark in his arms and said, "I love you like a brother...but it has to end this way." The dialogue was a bit "anvil" as some may call it, but this was such an epic scene and so filled with that "comic book good versus evil" feel that I didn't care. It was all well-executed, IMO. :)

[Smit6178]

For me the final scene was the highlight of the episode, but I'll admit that's not saying much. This was the first season finale where the pace really dragged. It didnt get interesting until the last 15 minutes which also had a few useless parts (Jimmy's screen time mainly). It's a fair criticism that the dialogue was weak but I notice it was written by some new writers.

For those who are convinced Rosenbaum filmed some scenes for the premiere, don't hold your breath. I have $20 that says when everything is resolved in the season premiere Lex will simply be "missing" and it'll never be resolved so long as Rosenbaum is adament about not doing any more Smallville. For some strange reason the final sequence worked for me even though it makes no sense whatsoever.

[LexLuv180]

I couldn't believe there were only 4-5 min of dialogue between Clark and Lex. I kept glancing at the clock and thinking, it's 7:50.... when is the showdown going to start??

Me too, I kept looking at my watch!! I kept thinking, ok, the biggest sub-plot of the series for seven years and it hasn't started by 8:50? ARGH

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I think everyone is too apprehensive about nothing:

They can't just end Clex that way. They just can't. They know it and most of all, they know we know it. Lex will be back in the premiere. That is part of the surprise twist, I suspect. MR probably has already filmed his final scenes for the premiere, and will then be gone forever.

Trust me, they'd have to be not only incredibly stupid, but incredibly inexperienced in the television business to think that they could end it that way and not actually show some resolution on screen.

With all of that in my mind, I LOVED that scene, and I think you all should go back and watch it from that perspective. Perhaps it could change your view on how well the scene played out? :) To me, it was a wonderful moment. You could feel the emotion in both characters. I love that Lex was not just the "wicked, supervillain" archetype, and that we could almost see where he was coming from. I could certainly feel the sense of loss as Lex held Clark in his arms and said, "I love you like a brother...but it has to end this way." The dialogue was a bit "anvil" as some may call it, but this was such an epic scene and so filled with that "comic book good versus evil" feel that I didn't care. It was all well-executed, IMO. :)

I DID like the scene, don't get me wrong, loved the dialogue, but it should have been much longer than five minutes.

People are angry because of this, and rightfully so, after seven years and it being such a huge deal.

I thought both acted well in teh scene and the emotion was brilliant, I loved the dialogue, don't get me wrong.

BUT Baum has said he's done with Smallville. Unless they filmed him in the premiere, how can it be wrapped up well? They should have made nearly the entire episode about Lex and Clark and Lex finally finding out.

[susangail]

This was different. I consume gobs of spoilers and trailers and still enjoy good episodes. For me, the journey is usually enough; I rewatch SV on DVD, after all :)

The episode was overpacked. The first climax (Brainiac's destruction) came too early. The second climax (FoS) came too late.

[MozartRequiem]

"I DID like the scene, don't get me wrong, loved the dialogue, but it should have been much longer than five minutes.

People are angry because of this, and rightfully so, after seven years and it being such a huge deal.

I thought both acted well in teh scene and the emotion was brilliant, I loved the dialogue, don't get me wrong.

BUT Baum has said he's done with Smallville. Unless they filmed him in the premiere, how can it be wrapped up well? They should have made nearly the entire episode about Lex and Clark and Lex finally finding out."

But that's what I'm saying: MR MUST have filmed something for the season premiere, right? They couldn't just end it that way. I think that would not be giving us fans enough credit, and even though they have cheated us a few times in the past, MR has reportedly said he was very pleased with his final scenes, so I think that he will have one last, final epic scene as perhaps the teaser for the premiere, a scene that will resolve everything, or at least resolve enough for us all to be pleased.

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:)

[MackLove]

"You mean that ending didn't make you wet your pants in joy," asked TPTB. "We thought it was the best possible ending.

"I mean, Lex found out about Clark. Lana is fake-gone...again. You got to see more LV even though Kara wasn't in the ep. Chloe...'s smile sparkles like sparkling water? Come on, there was a strike and budget issues and Supernatural is catching us the ratings!! What'd you expect?"

[Lord_Balthaazar]

That reminds me, I should go watch my dvr of Supernatural. I've been in shock over the lack of epic in this episode for hours :(

Please, somebody save us.. write a fanfic of how the season finale SHOULD have gone :(

[CrashRoy]

the entire episode was bad. it could have been better. I pretty much guessed right about everything that happened.

[LexLuv180]

That reminds me, I should go watch my dvr of Supernatural. I've been in shock over the lack of epic in this episode for hours :(

Please, somebody save us.. write a fanfic of how the season finale SHOULD have gone :(

Hehe that's funny, just because I'm hoping people do write some naughty Clex fanfiction to wrap this up. My beloved show has gone down the drain for a short time this season, so I need fanfiction for my sanity!

[SmallvilleMan]

What else is there to say between the two? Talking to Lex, is like talking to a wall......Everything you said to him goes out one ear and out the other........All he's going to do is twist around Clark's words.

As for seven seasons of build-up.........that would be the Lana video that lasted 2 seconds and ended clana.

[smallvillelogan]

I actually thought the Clark-Lex confrontation at the Fortress wasn't that bad. In fact, I thought it was good.

But it sure should have been longer. If it was longer, it could have served to complete Lex's story a bit, rather than just saying "well, Lex ran off from the rubble and I (Clark) can't find him" like they are going to have to do next season.

They could have given the confrontation at least 3 more minutes if they had cut out the marriage proposal and showed Clark crying a bit less after watching the video (though, I must admit, even though the break-up was through a DVD, it for some reason touched me a little. Maybe that's because I know that Lana is helping Clark move toward his destiny.)

[Tacitus]

I think Lex's part of the dialogue was pretty good, but Clark's was too whiny and fell short of my expectations.

[NoSupeForYou]

Lex can't exactly just wander away from the wreckage. It's not even clear how he got there so easily. It's supposed to be the damn Arctic, but he might have had a tougher walk at a ski resort.

What's the message? "Thanks to global warming any fool can just wander into the FOS in a tee-shirt and shorts."

It was so incredibly stupid because only the biggest idiot would wander up to the Arctic all by himself, but that's apparently what Lex did; hell, it doesn't even look like he had a sled team with him, let alone his goons. This was just some very horrible writing and directing. It's the kind of work you pretty much expect from someone leaving their job.

[colonyofcells]

Maybe Lex crashed his plane near the Fortress and then he walked. Or maybe Lex used a parachute.

[NoSupeForYou]

People don't parachute out of corporate jets. They're not designed for that because you need to be below a certain speed.
Also, no one parachutes into the Arctic, and even if they do, they don't go there wearing so little and with no supplies. Lex looked like he was taking a one way trip, at best. He wasn't even wearing ear muffs. He simply looked like he got off the plane and strolled over. He was still wearing the same business clothes he had on the plane. Not only that, it was night time! WTF.

[highdro_pharmer]

I'll chalk this rare miss of a season finale up to the writer's strike and some of the uncertainty surrounding the 8th season. Given the expiration of the contracts of some key players (ie MR, JG, and AM), it's clear that the cast is feeling the 7-year itch (literally) and eager to move on with their careers. The producers probably felt the pressure of tying up some of the loose ends, not to mention the fact that Al & Miles already had one foot out the door to begin with.

As someone who's seen every episode of this series, I feel shortchanged by that ending. Why they felt the need to give a fringe character like Jimmy that much airtime, or even that 3 minute video to the "ghost" of Lana is a mystery. If we were to tack on the epic showdown Season 5 battle between Lex/Zod & Clark to all that dialogue, then yeah, that would've been a pretty righteous farewell to MR.

As other loyal fans have suggested, I'll go down with the ship. I don't see how this show can survive without the brilliant bastardom of Glover and Rosenbaum... it's strange - to think that only Clark and Chloe will remain from the original cast. It kind of makes me feel bad for TW in a way - he's entering his acting prime and he has to stick with this team, whether he wants to or not, portraying a character that seems unwilling to ever grow up and face his destiny. On the other hand, he is a millionaire and has made out with almost every female character on this show, so on second thought, I don't feel bad at all for that lucky jerk!

I just hope S8 won't be as painful to watch as the final season of That 70's Show was without Eric and Kelso.

[Izzysand]

I've been a fan from the start and I must say I can't believe I waited 7 years for this. I was dissapointed, mainly because I know that MR won't be back next season, so I expected this to be an epic episode, but instead, I feel like I got the shaft. The true fans of Smallville know this, even for their usual dialog, this felt so short, it was basically a big FU by ALMILES. Regardless Im with this show till the end.... Because I love it.

[Humdinger]

And yet, there was time for the Chimmy proposal, Lana's Dear Clark video and Clark crying about Lana's Dear Clark video. All of which could have been handled next season, since everyone but MR is coming back!

Epic. Fail.

I thought I was the only one who noticed how much time they wasted on romance when they could have been kicking ass with a decent finale. Rosenbaum deserved a better send off, Clark and Lex deserved a better confrontation and some real action to end this season with, instead of that pussy episode they called a finale.

I hope we're not in for another Luthor MIA next season similar to the way they glossed over Grant's death. This show is getting famous for leaving fans, and its characters, in limbo.

You can only blame so much on the writer's strike and Al/Miles leaving.

[Einhauen]

The CW killed the integrity of Smallville and the rest of the shows except One Tree Hill.

[NoSupeForYou]

Since next season is the last I hope they go out with a bang and not a whimper like Al/Miles did.

Of course, there's a reason hope was in Pandora's Box with all those monsters.

[ChronX4]

The CW killed the integrity of Smallville and the rest of the shows except One Tree Hill.

And replaced it with 24/7 advertising of Gossip Girl.