View Full Version : Brainiac vs. Chloe: What happened?!
erikamichelle614
05-15-2008, 07:10 PM
Obviously she weakened him with something that had to do with her meteor power, but how?
AlwaysRight
05-15-2008, 07:11 PM
she weakened him up so we were lucky enough not to see an Epic Clark/Brainiac battle(who wants to see that, i much rather have Clark stick a piece of wire into him and kill him)
Ardiem3
05-15-2008, 07:11 PM
Brainiac tried to harm Chloe, but her power was trying to keep herself alive, and in turn, weakened the one who was trying to harm her, Brainiac.
erikamichelle614
05-15-2008, 07:13 PM
Brainiac tried to harm Chloe, but her power was trying to keep herself alive, and in turn, weakened the one who was trying to harm her, Brainiac.
ohhhh
TheLightOfKrypton
05-15-2008, 07:13 PM
Great question and great explanation Ardiem3. I wonder if because of her healing ability that Brainiac had to exert more of himself thus draining a lot of his energy. Maybe her ability somehow counteracts his "Brain-Drain." I loved how he reacted to her. He was blatantly scared and freaked out by her.
wb-superman
05-15-2008, 07:15 PM
Brainiac got weak by Chloe's healing power. Her power is stronger than him. Ouch. lol
Clana_4ever2005
05-15-2008, 07:20 PM
Brainiac tried to harm Chloe, but her power was trying to keep herself alive, and in turn, weakened the one who was trying to harm her, Brainiac.
Could this mean her power allows her to heal herself??? (Subsequently making her possibly immortal, as speculated)
MetropolisGirl4SV
05-15-2008, 07:22 PM
she weakened him up so we were lucky enough not to see an Epic Clark/Brainiac battle(who wants to see that, i much rather have Clark stick a piece of wire into him and kill him)
lol...you always are right! :rotfl:
Ardiem3
05-15-2008, 07:24 PM
Could this mean her power allows her to heal herself??? (Subsequently making her possibly immortal, as speculated)
She retains the power to heal herself, I believe, to an extent, but when shes trying to heal others, she places power from herself onto the one in question, which weakens herself.
superspider02
05-15-2008, 07:25 PM
Yea looks like her krypto power messed up brainiac and drained his power.
AndiGirl
05-15-2008, 07:26 PM
Yea....Chloe honestly freaked me out a little too....something tells me we're just scraping the surface. It's all coming together....Chloe saying "out of all these gifts...why was this one given to me?" Well...maybe good old Chloe isnt your run of the mill meteor freak.
I loved seeing how shocked brainiac was....he was no match for her. I loved it. :)
As for an explanation....I think if she's being attacked her body tries to save itself...which could possibly mean she's immortal.
TECHWON
05-15-2008, 07:27 PM
Yea....Chloe honestly freaked me out a little too....something tells me we're just scraping the surface. It's all coming together....Chloe saying "out of all these gifts...why was this one given to me?" Well...maybe good old Chloe isnt your run of the mill meteor freak.
I loved seeing how shocked brainiac was....he was no match for her. I loved it. :)
As for an explanation....I think if she's being attacked her body tries to save itself...which could possibly mean she's immortal.
I know this was a great momment
I loved Brainiac's reaction. Chloe f***ed him up pretty good for a meteor freak.
Superman's Princess
05-15-2008, 07:32 PM
Yea....Chloe honestly freaked me out a little too....something tells me we're just scraping the surface. It's all coming together....Chloe saying "out of all these gifts...why was this one given to me?" Well...maybe good old Chloe isnt your run of the mill meteor freak.
I loved seeing how shocked brainiac was....he was no match for her. I loved it. :)
As for an explanation....I think if she's being attacked her body tries to save itself...which could possibly mean she's immortal.
Yeah, I loved this scene! Brainiac's reaction was awesome! Go Chloe!:p
Sue Denim
05-15-2008, 07:37 PM
I'm more concerned with Brainiac's comment, "What the hell are you?" He's pretty perplexed. I'm thinking he'd know about meteor-freaks having altered Lex so Zod could possess him. At best, Brainaic's stupid at worse, Chloe's an alien too.
It's FrankenLiz from Roswell all over again, only, it's Chloe, (I hated FrankenLiz.)
I also loved this scene, it really does seem like they are pointing towards Chloe being immortal. Which is great! Clark won't be alone for the rest of his life
jordeant1200
05-15-2008, 07:42 PM
Brainiac tried to harm Chloe, but her power was trying to keep herself alive, and in turn, weakened the one who was trying to harm her, Brainiac.
vry good explanation good to see ppl who know what their talkin bout on here i havent ben on here in a weak cause people dont think when they type on here, but you do so good job
Vergon6
05-15-2008, 07:44 PM
I don't think it is necessarily implying Chloe is immortal. The output of her power seemed to act as some sort of feedback pulse to protect Chloe from further intervention by Brainiac, having the side effect of draining some of his power.
jimmyolsenblues
05-15-2008, 07:45 PM
we don't know how chloe weaken him but it was great. really great writing to show brainiac sweating saying what are you?
Ardiem3
05-15-2008, 07:47 PM
vry good explanation good to see ppl who know what their talkin bout on here i havent ben on here in a weak cause people dont think when they type on here, but you do so good job
Thank you :D
I_am_LEX
05-15-2008, 07:49 PM
When that wierd "auroa" (sp?) i was telling myself that something was up! Then when Brainiac looked freaked out and asked "What the hell are you?" it made me think...huh?! lol. So perhaps my theory about her ability being a gift from Jor-El isn't as far off as i thought. I understand that its the meteor rocks, but the power to weaken brainiac? unless the minerals he takes in has somethin to do with it... if kryptonite gets inside him it weakens him? Me rambling. I liked the explanation about her body protecting itself. I mean, her powers are from something "alien" so if it makes sense that even brainiac, being from the same place as the rocks, can't overcome the affects of the meteor rocks which bring her back to life. why her?? to save Clark when he needs it, duh.
madcatlady
05-15-2008, 07:50 PM
To me that was the best part of the episode...
Polomontana
05-15-2008, 08:05 PM
That was one of the more interesting parts. Brainiac was weakened by Chloe and he asked what are you.
Is it because she is a meteor freak? I thought of that but Braniac is not weakened by things from Krypton.
Is there something to this?
Her meteor power was protecting her, meaning it's grown and developed and she is probably now immortal
jacques
05-15-2008, 08:07 PM
I hope she kinda is immortal.
WickedJenn
05-15-2008, 08:09 PM
That was one of the more interesting parts. Brainiac was weakened by Chloe and he asked what are you.
Is it because she is a meteor freak? I thought of that but Braniac is not weakened by things from Krypton.
Is there something to this?
Ardiem suggested in the other thread about Chloe, and I agree, that her meteor power was trying to heal her and at the same time, it was weakening Brainiac.
jimmyolsenblues
05-15-2008, 08:10 PM
chloe is a meteor freak that can weaken brainiac, i wish i knew more but i don't
AndiGirl
05-15-2008, 08:12 PM
Yea, I think it literally took everything Brainiac had to infect Chloe....cause her powers kicked in and faught him off. There's going to be a reason for this...and I'm guessing Chloe is immortal.
Thats all I've got! ;)
LastSonKalEl
05-15-2008, 08:12 PM
yeah i think because she was trying to hurt her and she was healing it had a reverse effect and drained him off his power
aqgalaxy
05-15-2008, 08:15 PM
Honestly it started as soon as he injured her, you see the glow, now it makes me wonder, if she's shot does she glow and heal herself?
Mrs.Bizzaro
05-15-2008, 08:17 PM
hmmm, i didnt think of that angle...chloe's body healing itself.
First thing I thought was that her powers fix what's wrong with someone else...and brainiac being a sort of bio-machine/virus...there's something "wrong" with his form so Chloe's powers was trying to "fix" brainiac but in trying to fix him it really was trying to undo how he was built....
:lol: maybe I thought too much about it that very second!!
theotherJane
05-15-2008, 08:21 PM
I don't think that she can heal herself because she ended up in the hospital, after all. But her power did weaken Brainiac.
aqgalaxy
05-15-2008, 08:22 PM
I don't think that she can heal herself because she ended up in the hospital, after all. But her power did weaken Brainiac.
Yes she did end up in the hospital but she had control over her body. She was able to open her eyes. It seemed that Brainiac only was able to leave her in a coma, but she had some control over her body
Polomontana
05-15-2008, 08:24 PM
Maybe Chloe is not a meteor freak but a human/kryptonian hybrid put here by Jorel to help Clark. She could end up being Clark's half sister. Half human and half kryptonian.
TheLeague
05-15-2008, 08:24 PM
just wondering a theory that since we havent heard about the guy who has doomsday inside of him ( so to speak ) could his appearance in S8 be linked to destruction of the fortress perhaps there is a link to him that unleashes doomsday with in david bloome?
your thoughts on this possible spoiler?
also
Any1 care to guess/speculate when the fortress will be back ( I MISS JOR-EL ALREADY! ) :(
jacques
05-15-2008, 08:24 PM
Even Clark had a hard time destroying Brainiac in previous episodes, so maybe our beloved Chloe is a little more special then we all thought.
aqgalaxy
05-15-2008, 08:25 PM
Maybe Chloe is not a meteor freak but a human/kryptonian hybrid put here by Jorel to help Clark. She could end up being Clark's half sister. Half human and half kryptonian.
Or she can be that Soul Mate chick in the cave paintings.
AndiGirl
05-15-2008, 08:25 PM
Yea...he definitely didnt have his full effect on her. I think if clark hadnt killed brainiac....she may have healed completely.....?
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Or she can be that Soul Mate chick in the cave paintings.
I like that option. ;)
aqgalaxy
05-15-2008, 08:26 PM
Yea...he definitely didnt have his full effect on her. I think if clark hadnt killed brainiac....she may have healed completely.....?
I think so... i dunno. Chloe's power is the most mysterious thing For all we know, Brainaic's attack could have cured her.
minerva73
05-15-2008, 08:27 PM
Maybe Chloe is not a meteor freak but a human/kryptonian hybrid put here by Jorel to help Clark. She could end up being Clark's half sister. Half human and half kryptonian.
Didn't Moira make some mention of Chloe's infancy in "Progeny"? So unless Chloe was adopted by Moira and Gabe Sullivan, then I don't think that she's part Kryptonian.
jazzylg
05-15-2008, 08:27 PM
This was one of the best scenes in the ep. Brainiac's reaction was priceless!:lol:
Polomontana
05-15-2008, 08:31 PM
Didn't Moira make some mention of Chloe's infancy in "Progeny"? So unless Chloe was adopted by Moira and Gabe Sullivan, then I don't think that she's part Kryptonian.
Maybe Gabe is not her father and Jorel used Moira to carry the hybrid child. This is why they have a history of mental illness.
I have a feeling it will be something like this because that line wasn't just a throwawy line, it seemed like it was pointing to something.
AndiGirl
05-15-2008, 08:33 PM
I loved how Brainiac was talking to her like the damsel in distress...saying "I remember your pretty face...always butting in where you dont belong." Then she lays the smack down on him!!! ;) haha. Like....yea, my pretty little face just weakend your sorry butt. Pretty much setting you up so clark could defeat you.
you_smell_terrific
05-15-2008, 08:38 PM
I'm more concerned with Brainiac's comment, "What the hell are you?" He's pretty perplexed. I'm thinking he'd know about meteor-freaks having altered Lex so Zod could possess him. At best, Brainaic's stupid at worse, Chloe's an alien too.
It's FrankenLiz from Roswell all over again, only, it's Chloe, (I hated FrankenLiz.)
I hated frakenliz too ._o
"*hand electricutes Tess* Get up... *****!" :rotfl: LOL that delivery was so lame lmao
Sorry, different series flashback.
I loved brainiac's reaction to chloe. It was a little perplexing that a simple meteor power could screw him up so much but kind of cool too :O
aqgalaxy
05-15-2008, 08:39 PM
I realized somthing, if you rewatch it and look at the spikes thing, it looked like as if he was trying to drain something but she was resisting you see the ends expand to an extent as if sucking in but then loses it, then the lights circled around her and she ended up draining his energy. She basically reversed the attack on Brainiac. LOL, took his nutrients.
At least Brainaic acknowledged that Chloe is pretty
madcatlady
05-15-2008, 08:53 PM
Maybe she's part Amazon, as her mom is Wonder Woman....
colonyofcells
05-15-2008, 09:04 PM
My guess is when Chloe's healing power resisted the attack, it damaged Brainiac causing him to lose power.
aqgalaxy
05-15-2008, 09:08 PM
My guess is when Chloe's healing power resisted the attack, it damaged Brainiac causing him to lose power.
When the camera circles around Chloe's head, notice Brainiac's face. right before it pans out to where his face leaves the screen you see that "What's going on here" expression on his face, then we see the third spike, chloe clearly was resisting and fighting back, and his spikes disintegrated.
He infected her but not as much as Lana
Khyla
05-15-2008, 09:23 PM
I also loved this scene, it really does seem like they are pointing towards Chloe being immortal. Which is great! Clark won't be alone for the rest of his life
:D
Honestly it started as soon as he injured her, you see the glow, now it makes me wonder, if she's shot does she glow and heal herself?
I was thinking the same, like maybe the bullets would be pushed away by her powers before they can penetrate, or disintegrate as soon as they try to enter her.
...
He infected her but not as much as Lana
He didn't stick his spikes into the back of Lana's skull either. I think he was trying to kill CHloe, like he did Dax-R.
Her powers are obviously more to it than we thought! They prevented her self from being killed by him, while injuring him at the same time! Totally awesome!!!
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This was one of the best scenes in the ep. Brainiac's reaction was priceless!:lol:
Agree. Chloe did some serious damage! And Clark wouldn't have been able to defeat him otherwise.
myankskent
05-15-2008, 09:32 PM
As a person who hasn't had a huge problem with Chloe's power to this point, I must say that her power in this episode bothered the heck out of me. I'm sorry, but there is no way that Chloe should've been able to weaken Brainiac like that. Clark has a hard time defeating Brainiac on his own and Chloe can basically take him out with her power? That's just elevating Chloe's power too much for my liking. JMHO.
loistickyfingerz
05-15-2008, 09:57 PM
I thought that was one of the coolest scenes in the whole episode. I wasn't expecting it and it really worked. I don't know why, but it did somehow make sense. I hope to find out next season when Chloe returns.
SteveS
05-15-2008, 09:58 PM
The power of Chloe to awe and damage Brainiac combined with the power of AM to bend TPTB to her demand of increased pay (several of the others are just happy to have a pay check) shows that the importance of Chloe will grow more so next year. Luv it.
SnowBird
05-15-2008, 09:59 PM
That was very cool how Chloe weakened Brainiac. It still took Clark to eliminate Brainiac for Chloe to heal. I'm glad Chloe is coming back in season 8 to explore her gift further. I believe Brainiac isn't totally destroyed and will be back. Could be a battle of Chloe and Brainiac in the future.
SpiritedDiva
05-15-2008, 10:05 PM
That scene was awesome. Her power not only saves others, but herself. The special fx really brought light to Chloe's power. Don't know if she's immortal, but, it def ups the anti on how strong her powers really are. More to it that meets the eye apparently. :cool:
Khyla
05-15-2008, 10:12 PM
...So perhaps my theory about her ability being a gift from Jor-El isn't as far off as i thought.
...
why her?? to save Clark when he needs it, duh.
HEY! I wrote a fanfic about just that! I wrote it last November. :D It's called "CHOSEN" (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3435897&postcount=1) :)
gx25236
05-15-2008, 10:17 PM
In freak Lex said something like "regarding our most recent subject keep a close eye on her". Clearly Lex found something quite unusual for a meteor freak.
AChloeChick
05-15-2008, 10:28 PM
I thought it was pretty darn cool!
I also like it that Brainiac seemed impressed by Chloe; that she's not just some useless human, but one who can be respected (even by him).
BTW, Chloe is made of all kinds of awesomeness!
aqgalaxy
05-15-2008, 10:39 PM
I thought it was pretty darn cool!
I also like it that Brainiac seemed impressed by Chloe; that she's not just some useless human, but one who can be respected (even by him).
BTW, Chloe is made of all kinds of awesomeness!
Chloe sends chills to Brainaic, it's depolarizing
morethanmeetstheye
05-15-2008, 11:29 PM
I wonder if because of her healing ability that Brainiac had to exert more of himself thus draining a lot of his energy.
This explanation seems more likely to me. I thought that Chloe's power did not work on herself, considering that the wound on her cheek in Siren did not heal itself. I don't think she would be getting more powerful. No other meteor freak's powers increased over time...right?
For all we know, Brainaic's attack could have cured her.
This ocurred to me too. I wonder if it will happen, though I wonder what direction they would take her character in if they got rid of her power. It seemed like they were taking her down a different path involving Oliver and the League, but I would do anything to have her back at the Planet once Lex gets out of there!<!-- / message -->
jazzylg
05-15-2008, 11:37 PM
Her power has literally brought her back from the dead! So despite the minor cut not healing right away, that wasn't considered life threatening. It seems that her power acts as a 'life preserver/restorer', in extreme situations.
I_am_LEX
05-16-2008, 12:22 AM
I think a similar idea has been explored but mine might be more in depth so here goes.
Chloe's healing power takes the injury of someone else and puts it on her. Then she heals like a phoenix. If Brainiac was just doing to her what he did to Lana... Part of him goes into her which means that the affect it had on her... which was weaken her and make her ineffective... it reversed it and did the same to him. So he basically hurt himself!
Same goes for if he was tryin to kill her. If he was killing her... her power reversed the effect because part of him was going into Chloe. So again... Brainiac was killing himself while pulling the nutrients out of her because he was pulling nutirents out of himself!
Final idea... There is meteor rock/kryponite inside her so if he was killing her by sucking the nutirents out of her, he put the kryptonite inside of him. Maybe that is how he can be hurt. If Kryptonite get inside of him, he weakens?! maybe...
4CHLicks
05-16-2008, 06:11 AM
Yes she did end up in the hospital but she had control over her body. She was able to open her eyes. It seemed that Brainiac only was able to leave her in a coma, but she had some control over her body I'm glad she had some control over her body. Brainiac was too weakened by her to exert full control or perhaps control wasn't his goal but murder and he left his little nanobots or whatever in her body accidentally. In any case, it probably means that she wasn't in any pain like Lana. That explains why she was in such a good mood with Jimmy afterwards, enough to tease him, as though she had no side effects at all.
Her power has literally brought her back from the dead! So despite the minor cut not healing right away, that wasn't considered life threatening. It seems that her power acts as a 'life preserver/restorer', in extreme situations. Her body won't let her die. Her body fights back against death itself. That is the definition of immortality if you ask me.
Maybe Chloe is not a meteor freak but a human/kryptonian hybrid put here by Jorel to help Clark. She could end up being Clark's half sister. Half human and half kryptonian. Ewwwwwww! Chloe and Clark made out in Rush. Don't make me ill!
I think Chloe is a conduit for pure energy. She can give energy when she heals and take energy from an opponent when she's defending herself. It reminds me of the healer on The 4400 who can reverse his ability to kill as well as heal. The good news is EVERY LIVING THING NEEDS ENGERY TO SURVIVE. If you drain all its energy, you can kill it. And I mean ANYTHING from plants to (believe it or not) probably Clark Kent himself. And maybe Doomsday?
Khyla
05-16-2008, 06:27 AM
... It seems that her power acts as a 'life preserver/restorer', in extreme situations.
yes, that is what is seems. How awesome! :)
dimefan90
05-16-2008, 07:11 AM
so far Chloe has only healed humans so maybe because brainiac has kryptonian origins it had the reverse effects, just like kryptonite, it harms kryptonians but has sort of positive effects on humans, apart from the fact that they go psycho
jesslang
05-16-2008, 07:13 AM
i thought it was funny when Brainiac was like " what the hell are you"
..... A Meatorfreak!!!!! yea!
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so far Chloe has only healed humans so maybe because brainiac has kryptonian origins it had the reverse effects, just like kryptonite, it harms kryptonians but has sort of positive effects on humans, apart from the fact that they go psycho
so she can harm ...kyprtons??
JNottle
05-16-2008, 07:49 AM
Yeah since Chloe gets the kickback from the power and absorbs whatever has happened to them and then heals after her lifeforce has recharged, perhaps when someone from Krypton attacks her it reverses it in some wierd way. Also, I'm suprised at Braniac's reaction, it makes you think their is more to Chloe than just a meteor infection.
chlo-el
05-16-2008, 08:02 AM
I think her power has something to do with energy. She can give people energy when healing them and bring hem back to life. And she can take energy away. Brainiac problem is that he depends on enrgy to survive and Chloe weakened Brainiac taking some of his energy away.
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Yeah since Chloe gets the kickback from the power and absorbs whatever has happened to them and then heals after her lifeforce has recharged, perhaps when someone from Krypton attacks her it reverses it in some wierd way. Also, I'm suprised at Braniac's reaction, it makes you think their is more to Chloe than just a meteor infection.
Yeah I think there is more to Chloe's power then just a meteor infection. Especailly after Brainiac and freaken super Krytptonian computer didn't know what Chloe was. I'm sure he knew all about the meteor infected and human's with powers. But he seemed to set Chloe apart from the rest of the human's in not knowing what she was.
nickyjean_1
05-16-2008, 09:19 AM
There has to be some point to Brainaic laughing about her use of Kryptonite and how that doesn't even affect him and then the backlash of effect that Chloe's ability had on him. I like the idea of Chloe's power trying to fix Brainiac on a cell level because by nature of his exisistance he's a virus. But I hope there's something deeper then that.
Oh, and a shout out to my hubby who couldn't get over how Chloe "broke him".. It just thrilled him that "Chloe broke Brainiac".. it was funny.
erikamichelle614
05-16-2008, 09:23 AM
So clark couldn't defeat brainiac without Chloe's help. aww.
krpto
05-16-2008, 10:02 AM
I think chloe weakening brainiac was just thier way to get him to go to the powerplant so clark could defeat him there. Brainiac recharged enough to give clark a run for his money put clark was ticked that brainIAC would go after his friends and family so clarek let go and gave it all he had to defeat brainiac.
jqedward
05-16-2008, 10:12 AM
I loved that part. It was awesome! It goes to show you that they have just begun to scrape the surface with her abilities.
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I think chloe weakening brainiac was just thier way to get him to go to the powerplant so clark could defeat him there. Brainiac recharged enough to give clark a run for his money put clark was ticked that brainIAC would go after his friends and family so clarek let go and gave it all he had to defeat brainiac.
Brainiac isn't a living being that is why he went all psycho on him. If he were a living breathing being he might of still had reservations about harming him.
yoda1138777
05-16-2008, 10:40 AM
Brainiac Lives! in the process a part of him is left in Chloe and she is infected and he will take over her body. The minute she drinks milk Brainiac will dance with Jimmy Bond.
4CHLicks
05-16-2008, 02:00 PM
Brainiac Lives! in the process a part of him is left in Chloe and she is infected and he will take over her body. The minute she drinks milk Brainiac will dance with Jimmy Bond.
I certainly hope not. If Brainiac lives in Chloe, he still lives in Lana, too. And she'd definately have to come back in Season 8 to get rid of him!
Here's to hoping Brainiac....and Lana... are gone for good!:lol:
Charissa70
05-19-2008, 08:53 AM
Since Gabe worked for Lionel, Chloe, in vitro, was a lionel experiment. Like the girl that Lana let drown, but they were able to recreate her. Or, Chloe could be a clone. I keep waiting for one of the characters to announce they was a clone and were keeping their 'other' locked up in the duplicate smallville high
Sweetie
05-19-2008, 10:30 AM
Since Gabe worked for Lionel, Chloe, in vitro, was a lionel experiment. Like the girl that Lana let drown, but they were able to recreate her. Or, Chloe could be a clone. I keep waiting for one of the characters to announce they was a clone and were keeping their 'other' locked up in the duplicate smallville high
Good theory!It makes alot of sense.We know that they like doing the clone's thing.
I have another theory.Dax-Ur will be back next season and he will reveal something big...I think that Chloe is his daugther that he had with Moira when he arrived on earth.That's why kryptonite & the sun has no effected on her and she has different abilities than the others.I'm pretty sure that Chloe's powers are more complex than we think.I hope they will concentrate on that,it would be much more interesting than the sidekick's gig.
Ardiem3
05-19-2008, 10:37 AM
Good theory!It makes alot of sense.We know that they like doing the clone's thing.
I have another theory.Dax-Ur will be back next season and he will reveal something big...I think that Chloe is his daugther that he had with Moira when he arrived on earth.That's why kryptonite & the sun has no effected on her and she has different abilities than the others.I'm pretty sure that Chloe's powers are more complex than we think.I hope they will concentrate on that,it would be much more interesting than the sidekick's gig.
Dax-Ur was obviously killed by Brainiac, IMO, when he stole information from his mind. Chloe's a meteor freak, and thats the extent of it, IMO also...
Sweetie
05-19-2008, 11:07 AM
Dax-Ur was obviously killed by Brainiac, IMO, when he stole information from his mind. Chloe's a meteor freak, and thats the extent of it, IMO also...
I don't remember any meteor freaks who can weaken an alien machine.She almost killed him.If he didn't stop,he was doomed!!!
Ok...I have another theory...Now that Lionel is gone.Jor-El will need another vessel.I think Chloe is the new Vessel.
Mr.White
05-19-2008, 04:21 PM
As a person who hasn't had a huge problem with Chloe's power to this point, I must say that her power in this episode bothered the heck out of me. I'm sorry, but there is no way that Chloe should've been able to weaken Brainiac like that. Clark has a hard time defeating Brainiac on his own and Chloe can basically take him out with her power? That's just elevating Chloe's power too much for my liking. JMHO.
A great post. Chloe ,through her power, has provided the turning point in defeating what will still be one of Superman's biggest enemies in Brainiac by weakening him as she did and having Brainiac react with that statement that he said. It made the battle between Clark and Brainiac at the power plant pretty much anti climatic. Once again the supposed main character of the show (Clark) gets overshadowed by one of the show's supporting characters (Chloe). Raising Chloe's supernatural capablities to a new level will be another reason for the show's PTB to focus even more on her and less on Clark in season 8.
ClLaLeChFAN01
05-19-2008, 05:05 PM
I wonder if will suffer a side affect from weaking BrainIAC. By the way the scene was great!
Ardiem3
05-19-2008, 05:17 PM
I loved Brainiacs line, "What the hell are you?" Awesomeness...
Iluvgreen
05-19-2008, 06:20 PM
Chloe is just fricken awsome and fantastic and cool!!!!!!!!
SVrnFAN
05-19-2008, 06:37 PM
When that wierd "auroa" (sp?) i was telling myself that something was up! Then when Brainiac looked freaked out and asked "What the hell are you?" it made me think...huh?! lol. So perhaps my theory about her ability being a gift from Jor-El isn't as far off as i thought. I understand that its the meteor rocks, but the power to weaken brainiac? unless the minerals he takes in has somethin to do with it... if kryptonite gets inside him it weakens him? Me rambling. I liked the explanation about her body protecting itself. I mean, her powers are from something "alien" so if it makes sense that even brainiac, being from the same place as the rocks, can't overcome the affects of the meteor rocks which bring her back to life. why her?? to save Clark when he needs it, duh.
Why, when Chloe uses her "meteor" power, does it glow white? When any other meteor infected person uses their power, does it not emit a green glow - in whatever form it is expressed? Anybody have ideas? Or clarifications?
borednow
05-19-2008, 06:41 PM
Chloe's real meteor power has always been being a super plot device, her healing people is just an extension of that. There was no way Clark could bet my darling fully powered so... *drum roll please*... Chloe's power had some weird side affect where it decreased his powers, weakening him enough so Clark could take him on... Chloe is "The Super Plot Device!"
So there you go honey, that answers your question of "What the hell are you?"
kraami
05-19-2008, 06:42 PM
I believe chloe is the girl on the cave wall. We seem to have been getting alot of dichpering of the symbols in the caves and i believe we will see more. She must be more than just a meoter freak. Curious? Martian Manhunter hasn't seen chloe yet (I mean in the same scene yet)? What if ?..... If martian manhunter was talking to clark in the same room and chloe walks in and Martian manhunter bows to her and says "Yes my queen"?
That would be so effing cool, I wouldn't be able to stand it!
borednow
05-19-2008, 06:51 PM
I believe chloe is the girl on the cave wall. We seem to have been getting alot of dichpering of the symbols in the caves and i believe we will see more. She must be more than just a meoter freak. Curious? Martian Manhunter hasn't seen chloe yet (I mean in the same scene yet)? What if ?..... If martian manhunter was talking to clark in the same room and chloe walks in and Martian manhunter bows to her and says "Yes my queen"?
... That would be the worst thing I could possibly imagine for Martian Manhunter... I think I'd rather see him slaughtering two-year olds then bowing down...
Khyla
05-19-2008, 08:59 PM
Why, when Chloe uses her "meteor" power, does it glow white? When any other meteor infected person uses their power, does it not emit a green glow - in whatever form it is expressed? Anybody have ideas? Or clarifications?
that's an interesting observation. and it even further supports the idea that her power is more of a "gift" either from Jor-El or has been somehow "purified" by him or from contact with either the key, the FOS, or maybe even from having been exposed to Clark's aura for such a long time. :)
borednow
05-20-2008, 12:10 AM
Unless MM was bowing before the guy who invented the Oreo...
skully
05-20-2008, 03:30 AM
A great scene, possibly the best of the Finale.
Lazy Boy
05-20-2008, 07:21 AM
Obviously she weakened him with something that had to do with her meteor power, but how?
I wouldn't know the answer but I like some of the theories that some people are putting forward. It was a good scene and it make Chloe more interesting so hopefully we'll find out more about that aspect of her power in season 8.
Trying to think of a theory.....nope, nothing comes to mind...
Dor el
05-20-2008, 07:44 AM
Chloe's real meteor power has always been being a super plot device, her healing people is just an extension of that. There was no way Clark could bet my darling fully powered so... *drum roll please*... Chloe's power had some weird side affect where it decreased his powers, weakening him enough so Clark could take him on... Chloe is "The Super Plot Device!"
So there you go honey, that answers your question of "What the hell are you?"
Yes she is a "plot device". A plot device is an element introduced into a story solely to advance or resolve the plot of the story. In the hands of a skilled writer, the reader or viewer will not notice that the device is a construction of the author; it will seem to follow naturally from the setting or characters in the story. A poorly-written story, on the other hand, may have such awkward or contrived plot devices that the reader has serious trouble maintaining suspension of disbelief. It seems that plot devices are rather common to storytelling. Chloe magical powers did advance the story; it allowed Clark to defeat Brainiac and move on to other things. So I see no reason to fault the writers for using plot devices, but only their skill in doing so. It is a subjective view I think.
But, isn't Superman: a superpowered alien from the planet Krypton who is morally righteous, fights for truth, justice and the American way, (obsolete perhaps, but used in the past), who is sensitive to various forms of kryptonite and is especially sensitive to green k also a plot device on which the whole premise of Superman is based? Why is giving Superman such extraordinary abilities and attributes, not a plot device. Yes, it is the very premise of the mythos, but believable? I don't think so. Superman always has just exactly what he needs to defeat the villain in the end. Clearly the skill with which the plot device is used determines its degree of acceptability. Chloe is just a new and unusual character in this saga of Clark Kent. This is a show meant to entertain. Explaining occurrences is the job of the writers, and it appears to me that that is just what they are doing with these "plot devices". Law and order; isn't it plot devices that allows the police always come up with the right clues and angles to solve their cases? On Bones, a show I like BTW, is full of plot devices, yet I find it very entertaining. House; again full of inexplicable diagnostic genesis; aka "plot devices". It seems when viewers do not like the way something comes down or is explained, they cry foul/plot device. I find it funny that viewers find it difficult to believe that Chloe can do the things she does, yet have no problem believing that Clark/Superman can do the things he does. Talk about unbelievable, Dr. House always identifies the disease/syndrome that causes the patient to be sick. If we don't like "plot devices", perhaps we should watch quality documentaries. Even those sometimes have inexplicable, by human standards, occurrences.
Thank you for this time, I now relinquish the podium.
celita
05-20-2008, 10:06 AM
Could this mean her power allows her to heal herself??? (Subsequently making her possibly immortal, as speculated)
I don't think so, she wasn't able of curing herself in "Siren" or "Sleeper". Her power is supposed to absorb others pain to heal them. But if she absorbs her own pain it wouldn't cure herself, it would remain the same.
Yeah but Siren and Sleeper were decades ago in Smallville universe! It all happened offscreen like everything else, by September she'll be able to fly without any explanation!...At least someone will be flying on this damn show
Dor el
05-20-2008, 11:49 AM
^^Funny.:)
Khyla
05-20-2008, 01:18 PM
Could this mean her power allows her to heal herself??? (Subsequently making her possibly immortal, as speculated)
I don't think so, she wasn't able of curing herself in "Siren" or "Sleeper". Her power is supposed to absorb others pain to heal them. But if she absorbs her own pain it wouldn't cure herself, it would remain the same.
in 7-12 , after CHloe had been "dead" for 18 hours , she voiced her concern to Clark, that being in charge of such power also means that one of the responsibilities for both of them, was "Staying alive". Perhaps her power reflects that responsibility, and therfore doesn't allow her to die. As I said before, I think Brainiac would have killed her if allowed to continue...
Her powers seem very similar to the powers that Clark's ship held.
Stratum99
05-20-2008, 01:23 PM
Well I just want to say that this was basically the best part of the entire episode and really the only thing that has left me baffled about Chloe. I have two theories about the whole Brainiac Chloe moment in Arctic.
The first one is not about what Chloe did to Brainiac, but what she might become. Although Brainiac was completely freaked about what Chloe did to him is it possible that he had more of an effect on her than any of us have noticed. After all we do know that there is supposedly some new female villain in S8, so is it possible that he may have somehow damaged her making her switch sides?
Second, we all know that Chloe was infected by kryptonite during the first meteor shower. Maybe what she has become is different than your run of the mill meteor freak, and maybe she was infected by a different type of meteor rock. I think that Chloe's powers might stem from one of the different types of meteor rock and that is why she is different, and maybe thats why she has some sort of protection against Brainiac.
Misstaken
05-20-2008, 06:04 PM
I don't think Chloe can be considered as immortal. Yes she survived Brainiac's attack but at the same time she ''died'' trying to cure Lois (Phantom) and Lex/Clark (Fracture). I think the only thing that doesn't make her an immortal being is the possibility that she could die trying to save someone else.
Also, I don't think Chloe turning out to be Clark's half sister or kryptonian or alien would be a good decision storywise. SV isn't like Veronica Mars. It's not a show based on finding out something that no one suspected. If TPTB actually go through with that stuff, I don't think they would be able to pull it off. The result would be full of inconsistencies and would lack explanation IMO.
I don't see how SV could do a full episode explaining how Chloe is Clark's half sister/kryptonian/alien and make it believable (unless that's what they have been planing all along - but then again they didn't quite leave breadcrumbs for us did they?).
berniepooh
05-21-2008, 09:18 AM
Is there some connection to Chloe's mother? Most meteor freaks go mad with the power. Their morality gets flushed and they don't care about anyone but themselves. Prime example: LANA!
But Chloe's mom didn't even realize she could control people beyond Chloe. And she made a choice to leave Chloe when she hurt her the first time as a child. She couldn't bare the idea of ever hurting her again. It took Lex to prove to her that her powers extended to other meteor infected people. Is there something special about Chloe and her mother's side of the family? Why did neither of them become corrupt with power?
Stratum99
05-21-2008, 09:28 AM
Is there some connection to Chloe's mother? Most meteor freaks go mad with the power. Their morality gets flushed and they don't care about anyone but themselves. Prime example: LANA!
But Chloe's mom didn't even realize she could control people beyond Chloe. And she made a choice to leave Chloe when she hurt her the first time as a child. She couldn't bare the idea of ever hurting her again. It took Lex to prove to her that her powers extended to other meteor infected people. Is there something special about Chloe and her mother's side of the family? Why did neither of them become corrupt with power?
I don't think that has anything to do with Chloe's family. First if I was accidentally hurting one of my kids all of the time, just because of who I was, then I would leave too, just so that my child was protected.
Also most of the meteor freaks that go crazy have had hard times in their life and want revenge or recognition, and sometimes it goes too far. Its like people can't handle the added power or responsibility. But Chloe's power isn't what you can really call an active power so she doesn't really use it to get what she wants. Also her mom was in a catatonic state most of the time after she left Chloe so maybe she never got the chance to lose it. But this could all just be wrong too lol
Chloefan#1
05-21-2008, 11:19 AM
Maybe Gabe is not her father and Jorel used Moira to carry the hybrid child. This is why they have a history of mental illness.
I have a feeling it will be something like this because that line wasn't just a throwawy line, it seemed like it was pointing to something.
It is pointing to somenthing. Chloe is somenthing else than meteor freak. Do you think Brianinc will look that afraid for a MF? he look so surprised and said "who the hell are you":confused:
npower1
05-28-2008, 06:19 AM
My money is going on Chloe being Jor-el's vessel. Why? Lionel as the vessel destroyed a previous version of Brainiac getting a similar reaction from Brainiac as Chloe did. Chloe has spent more time in the FOS than any other human. Her experiences with CK makes her the ideal candidate to replace Lionel.
By the way, I expect to loose my money when season 8 hits the screens.
berniepooh
05-28-2008, 07:54 AM
My money is going on Chloe being Jor-el's vessel. Why? Lionel as the vessel destroyed a previous version of Brainiac getting a similar reaction from Brainiac as Chloe did. Chloe has spent more time in the FOS than any other human. Her experiences with CK makes her the ideal candidate to replace Lionel.
By the way, I expect to loose my money when season 8 hits the screens.
This is actually a fascinating story concept. Since CK and Chloe have such a long running, deep rooted, loving relationship that frequently involves multifaceted and complex give and take on a personal level, what you describe could open the door to Clark understanding and embracing Jor El's love for him. And, Chloe motivated Jor El to restore Kara's memory when she confessed to him "I love your son." Kudos. Brilliant idea!!
redkryptoniteisthebest
05-28-2008, 06:23 PM
I'm way late to this thread, but doesn't she have to cry for her power to work? Or does she have to not cry anymore?
minerva73
05-28-2008, 10:26 PM
I'm way late to this thread, but doesn't she have to cry for her power to work? Or does she have to not cry anymore?
I guess that Chloe has been practicing with her powers ever since the incident and has found a way to allow her powers to activate at her own will.
I guess the powers needed to activate themselves for the first time and when she cried, that was the trigger. If she had touched Lois' wound in "Phantom" and she felt the same way that she did, then I'm pretty sure that it would've worked then as well.
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I have a question, though. Does what happened to Chloe in this episode mean that if she gets shot or stabbed, she'll heal herself (at whatever pace)?
borednow
05-28-2008, 10:54 PM
She didn't heal herself, she harmed Brainiac, my poor baby, she still ended up in the hospital...
Khyla
06-18-2008, 10:35 AM
At the recent Superman Celebration in Metropolis, during the Q&A, Allison was asked,
"What happened with Brainiac in the season finale?"
This was Allison's answer:
"i think it was kind of just lending to the fact that i have this massive amount of power and healing power, and so I was capable of healing myself, fighting negative energy, and so that was sort of an example of how I do that."
link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kDxNRgwcTQ
:)
Sweetie
06-18-2008, 01:22 PM
My money is going on Chloe being Jor-el's vessel. Why? Lionel as the vessel destroyed a previous version of Brainiac getting a similar reaction from Brainiac as Chloe did. Chloe has spent more time in the FOS than any other human. Her experiences with CK makes her the ideal candidate to replace Lionel.
By the way, I expect to loose my money when season 8 hits the screens.
It's my theory too.Lionel is gone & the FOS is destroyed.So,it's the most plausible possibility.Chloe= Jor-el's vessel.Whoelse could have reversed Brainiac's powers and made him freak out like that?The one who built him of course.
Khyla
06-22-2008, 10:51 PM
And when would Chloe have become Jor-El's vessel? when she went to the FOS in TRAVELER and pleaded with him to restore Kara?
AlwaysRight
06-22-2008, 10:57 PM
My money is going on Chloe being Jor-el's vessel. Why? Lionel as the vessel destroyed a previous version of Brainiac getting a similar reaction from Brainiac as Chloe did. Chloe has spent more time in the FOS than any other human. Her experiences with CK makes her the ideal candidate to replace Lionel.
By the way, I expect to loose my money when season 8 hits the screens.
lol i think Chloe will become the Vessel as well. My reasoning is whenever a character leaves the show who is directly related to helping out Clark in some way they just through that person's charatceristics on Clark
ie
Pete leaves all of a sudden Chloe is Clark's best friend and knows his secret
Ma and Pa Kent leave, Chloe becomes Clark voice of reason
It does make sense now that Lionel gone that they put the Vessel thing on her(since she knows his secret and other then Chimmy what else is she doing)
berniepooh
06-23-2008, 09:02 AM
Or, maybe Clark could grow a brain and start thinking for himself??? But then, if that happened he'd complete his training and leave Smallville....never mind, we can't have that happen.
Kevin24
06-23-2008, 12:06 PM
Chloe and Brainac are not on a equal playing field. He was caught off guard by her power and that is why it took such a toll on his energy levels. He was over confident in thinking she was a ordinary human being with no special abilities. So, he tried to kill her with the same move he used on Lana, but it backfired on him and he was in shock about what just happened.
"What the hell are you? " to me it just shows his shock at what she did to him that no other person has ever done. Does it show that she is some great power that rivals his? No, not even close if he was aware of her power he would have killed her another way.
According to that interview with Allison this means that she has some sort of offensive power ....what that is? who knows but she obviously still doesn't know how to use it.
borednow
06-23-2008, 06:49 PM
He could have just fried her with his heat vision... but my baby... he was just looking to piss off Clark as much as possible... to do that he wanted to put all his friends in painful comas and drive him mad... ohh well best laid plans... you'll get him next time sweetheart...
dru-zod2501
06-23-2008, 07:52 PM
I couldn't be the only one slightly disturbed at the thought of Jor-El using a female body
madcatlady
06-23-2008, 07:56 PM
As long as she doesn't start saying "I love you, my son", in that mock English accent, like Lionel did. It would be too weird coming from her.
dru-zod2501
06-23-2008, 08:19 PM
As long as she doesn't start saying "I love you, my son", in that mock English accent, like Lionel did. It would be too weird coming from her.
It wouldn't be Jor-El without "my son," so again no
borednow
06-23-2008, 09:27 PM
As long as she doesn't start saying "I love you, my son", in that mock English accent, like Lionel did. It would be too weird coming from her.
... I would pay to see that! :lol:
Sweetie
06-23-2008, 09:49 PM
I couldn't be the only one slightly disturbed at the thought of Jor-El using a female body
Yeah!But,which body do you want Jor-El to take?There's no other man left.Seriously,Chloe's visit at FOS made him decided to take hers...She looks out for his son,he knows CK trusts her more than anyone and he knows she really cares about him.So,those are good reasons.Chloe can be the new vessell.They just have to play it differently this time so,it wouldn't be too weird coming from her.She will just give infos that he needs like she always does.It wouldn't be that weird,she's already doing it anyway.
Kevin24
06-23-2008, 11:21 PM
I don't want Chloe being a vessel either. I think we no longer need a Jor-el vessel anymore. I think that part of the story went when Lionel died last season.
Clark will learn to start taking charge of his own life and stop taking advice from other people who always tell him what he needs to do. He doesn't need Jor-el babysitting him anymore or the Martian Manhunter.
He needs to start walking his own path, the way he wants too, without someone always telling him what to do.
Sweetie
06-24-2008, 07:45 AM
I don't want Chloe being a vessel either. I think we no longer need a Jor-el vessel anymore. I think that part of the story went when Lionel died last season.
Clark will learn to start taking charge of his own life and stop taking advice from other people who always tell him what he needs to do. He doesn't need Jor-el babysitting him anymore or the Martian Manhunter.
He needs to start walking his own path, the way he wants too, without someone always telling him what to do.
Yes,I would like to see him doing that also.But,this version of CK doesn't seem to work without the others giving him advices and he can never come out with solutions or clues himself.
So,he certenetly needs Jor-El's advices & the justice league's help more than ever with upcoming of Doomsday next season.When he will learn to listen to those people carefully may be,he would't need them anymore.So,until this time comes,he will need all the help he could get.
berniepooh
06-24-2008, 11:56 AM
Forget about Terence Stamp's voice. Can you imagine Clark's reaction if Chloe started channeling Marlon Brando??? If the first time she served as Jor El's vessel she ran thru a few famous MB lines from his OTHER films?
Screaming "STELLA"
"I could have been a contender."
"Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears."
"He doesn't punish men for discipline. He likes to see men crawl."
"I'll make him an offer he can't refuse."
Kevin24
06-24-2008, 12:36 PM
Forget about Terence Stamp's voice. Can you imagine Clark's reaction if Chloe started channeling Marlon Brando??? If the first time she served as Jor El's vessel she ran thru a few famous MB lines from his OTHER films?
Screaming "STELLA"
"I could have been a contender."
"Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears."
"He doesn't punish men for discipline. He likes to see men crawl."
"I'll make him an offer he can't refuse."
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