View Full Version : How will Clark get out of this next season?
curiosity
05-15-2008, 07:27 PM
How will Clark recover from the FOS collapsing on Lex and himself? What will happen to Lex?
The FOS collapsing on Lex without Clark to save him would surely kill Lex, wouldn't it?
Did Lex have any idea it would collapse? I don't see how he could have known. Yet when the FOS started to collapse he didn't seem very shocked.
jordeant1200
05-15-2008, 07:31 PM
i think since karas in the pz that well see how she busts out and shell come just in time, plus i dont think the fos falling is the real thing thatll control him, maybe just an effect of it. or jorel tore down the fos in order to keep lex from finishing
ChronX4
05-15-2008, 07:44 PM
I have no clue, I'm trying really hard not to say "He's going to fly out of there!!!"
The way it collapsed didn't seem like it was being destroyed, some of the ice columns were sliding back into the ground while others fell apart (just imagine the scene were it was first built but in rewind).
Karafan1
05-15-2008, 07:46 PM
I noticed that too ChronX4, it looked like it was going back into the ground so it might comeback somehow
AlwaysRight
05-15-2008, 07:47 PM
Chloe will go there and tell Jor-El she loves his son and all will be right
vezz801
05-15-2008, 07:53 PM
Chloe will go there and tell Jor-El she loves his son and all will be right
:)
curiosity
05-15-2008, 07:53 PM
Chloe will go there and tell Jor-El she loves his son and all will be right
lol, except Chloe's in jail so we know she can't save the day this time. Besides, it's a little beyond the scope of things for Chloe. The Arctic, with the FOS retreated into the ice?
LastSonKalEl
05-15-2008, 07:57 PM
Lol....All of the Justice League will Storm in with Green Arrow at the Lead ..they will rescue Clark and fight off an army of Eradicators released by the fall of the fortress...they will make it away with no casualties except for Cyborg (bc really who cares about that dude) Aquaman's Eradicator will be an underwater Aquatibot....Flash's will be superfast. Green ARrow's will be supersmart...each facets of Clark sent to destory him and rival him as a unit...They are what controls him by beating him they can then enter him like Braniac did Kara, Chloe, and Lana..then the weilder of the purpleeltonjohncrystal can control the technology from within....but The justice league will beat them...and Lex will disappear into the ocean below...while secretly being rescued by this "Tessa" chick from the spoilers... NOT..I WISH IT WERE THAT BADASS...
we will probably get a lame ass episode that ties it alltogether with no logic and no continuity...lex will disappear...and the fortress being destroyed will "control" Clark..because by getting rid of it he can't embrace his destiny.... I fill that is the most likely solution.
Ardiem3
05-15-2008, 08:05 PM
How will Clark rebuild the Fortress to begin and eventually, complete his training. After the amazing creation in Season 5's "Arrival," I was a little sad to see it destroyed. I wonder if Jor-El will be PO'd for Clark letting Lex get that far, into the Fortress, and eventually, having it be destroyed...
BIGBLUE10789
05-15-2008, 08:07 PM
I was thinking the same thing! How will he get that rebuilt. Its not like there are spare crystals lying around! I hope they have a valid explanation for this in the premiere. Gotta wait til september.
wallyK
05-15-2008, 08:46 PM
The orb mechanism can apparently only be used by humans, so Kara will not be able to help Clark. But Lex is not the only human in the show, so there is an obvious way to rescue Clark. Lana and Chloe are not currently available, but I doubt things will stay that way. And there is always Shelby.
As to the FOS, it's difficult to say. The writers can make up a reason to get the FOS back IF THEY WANT TO. Maybe they don't. Wouldn't Clark have a better chance of choosing his destiny without Jor-El?
harryandginnyfanatic
05-15-2008, 08:47 PM
anybody got a shovel? :lol:
jimmyolsenblues
05-15-2008, 08:47 PM
i am betting jor-el will save clark again and there will never be any sign of lex.
minerva73
05-15-2008, 08:49 PM
I'm sure that Clark could have probably survived the falling crystals on his head because of his powers.
harryandginnyfanatic
05-15-2008, 08:49 PM
Lex will just evaporate like Jason did after Commencement. :lol:
colonyofcells
05-15-2008, 09:00 PM
Maybe both Lex and Clark were thrown into the arctic sea and survived. Lex gets eaten by a polar bear.
mimi1123
05-15-2008, 10:10 PM
LOIS to the rescue! (I bet she didn't buy Jimmy's b/s story about the oil drilling)
vikingjedi
05-15-2008, 10:33 PM
LOIS to the rescue! (I bet she didn't buy Jimmy's b/s story about the oil drilling)
Hell yeah, its about time Lois saved Clark. That would kick ass
Karafan1
05-15-2008, 10:46 PM
I'm sure that Clark could have probably survived the falling crystals on his head because of his powers.
It kinda looked like he didn't have his powers at the end. If he did have his powers he should have superspeeded out
susangail
05-15-2008, 11:01 PM
So rather than controlling Clark, the orb killed him? Even though we know he'll come back, does that make sense to anyone?
I vote for Chloe getting out of jail and saving Clark.
LexLuv180
05-15-2008, 11:34 PM
Nope, doesn't make sense to any of us at all, susan.
DarkseidNow
05-15-2008, 11:46 PM
Yeah, I thought the orb was supposed to control him, not destroy/revert the FoS.
colonyofcells
05-15-2008, 11:52 PM
Lex was on top of Clark so all the debris fell on poor Lex instead of on Clark. Lex will probably wake up completely paralyzed.
LexLuv180
05-16-2008, 12:18 AM
The fortress seemed to revert to its old form, not just destroy itself.
curiosity
05-16-2008, 02:51 AM
How will Clark rebuild the Fortress to begin and eventually, complete his training. After the amazing creation in Season 5's "Arrival," I was a little sad to see it destroyed. I wonder if Jor-El will be PO'd for Clark letting Lex get that far, into the Fortress, and eventually, having it be destroyed...
The FOS destruction was all special effects. So the actual set is still there?? Which probably means it's coming back sometime next season. IMO.
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Yeah, I thought the orb was supposed to control him, not destroy/revert the FoS.
Maybe Jor El wasn't the one who actually sent the control orb, maybe it was someone or something else.
Vergon6
05-16-2008, 03:13 AM
My guess, and others have speculated this as well, that the Fortress collapsing was a defense mechanism. I am thinking that Jor-El knew that it was Lex Luthor and he did not have humanity's best interests at heart, and that Clark had not turned bad, so there was no reason to allow Clark to be controlled any longer. So he collapses the Fortress, only to reform on the condition Clark agrees to finish his training, the knowledge part anyways. Perhaps he transported Lex to a looney bin ;).
I thought the orb instead of destroying the Fortress, would have released a certain villain i.e. Doomsday. Or perhaps 'awakened' him in some other fashion, if the character descriptions on the news page are accurate, with people comparing this version to the Hulk.
ballofsteel
05-16-2008, 03:33 AM
Maybe we will se the Martian Manhunter save Clark and erase Lex's memory at the same time!
randyg
05-16-2008, 03:59 AM
anybody got a shovel? :lol:
Yeh mate i got a few lying around in my shed..Shall we go n dig it out? I reckon if we start digging now maybe we'l be finished in time for the start of next season :rotfl:
Cromartiefan
05-16-2008, 05:11 AM
I hope it involves Ollie's Justice Rangers or MM (Where the hell is he!?). MM would be more logical as he can use telepathy to erase Lex's memory (come on, we all know it'll happen) and, as an agent of Jor-El, may have something to rebuild the fortress.
I hope it involves Ollie though - Lex controls Clark, Ollie uses a Kryptonite Arrow to take him down (shot to the leg should do it) while Bart superspeeds in and grabs the Orb, and gives it to Victor, who crushes it into dust, freeing Clark.
And Arthur...talks to some fish or something.
bin11001010
05-16-2008, 06:02 AM
LOIS to the rescue! (I bet she didn't buy Jimmy's b/s story about the oil drilling)
Good point. Just may happen but then we will have another possible memory wipe.
skully
05-16-2008, 06:04 AM
The fortress seemed to revert to its old form, not just destroy itself.Yup. It will be back.
LODGE4
05-16-2008, 06:52 AM
I suppose the writers figured this was a great way to write Lex Luthor out of the 8th season, since Michael Rosenbaum has not signed on. Of course Clark could easily survive the fortress collapsing onto him, with his powers. And yes, the fortress will be back - he has to take Lois there in a few years so they can ...........(See SUPERMAN II)
jesslang
05-16-2008, 07:06 AM
yea thats what i was thinking ..how is clark going to get out of this>
mac19
05-16-2008, 08:18 AM
Well, i am not sure that a kryptonian can not use the orb. We all saw Kara(Brianic) try to pick it up and was not able to. But are we 100% sure that clark nor kara can touch it???? Can someone let me know!
stenochick
05-16-2008, 08:50 AM
I suppose the writers figured this was a great way to write Lex Luthor out of the 8th season, since Michael Rosenbaum has not signed on. Of course Clark could easily survive the fortress collapsing onto him, with his powers. And yes, the fortress will be back - he has to take Lois there in a few years so they can ...........(See SUPERMAN II)
Clark appeared to be completely paralyzed by the way that Lex was holding him. I don't think he can save himself. Maybe Martian Manhunter. Or maybe a human. The only humans that would think to go there are Lois and Jimmy based on the photos Jimmy gave her, but would they have the resources to get there?
Ardiem3
05-16-2008, 08:53 AM
The FOS destruction was all special effects. So the actual set is still there?? Which probably means it's coming back sometime next season. IMO.
Haha, Obviously the Fortress destruction was CGI, thats not what I was asking. How is Clark going to rebuild/reform it on the show... after it got destroyed, on the show...? After its construction in "Arrival," I was a little sad to see it go down on the show, but not the set... obviously... :lol:
ragamuffin
05-16-2008, 08:57 AM
I have a possible explanation. I think the orb is part of the Eradicator. I copied this from Wikipedia. "In its original form, the Eradicator resembled a stylized small rocket. Its top section was a prolate spheroid, which exuded a blue glow and was approximately three times the size of an egg." If that is the eradicator, it can rebuild the fortress. I don't think it was refusing to let a Kryptonian touch it, I think it was resisting Brainiac.
baltazor
05-16-2008, 08:58 AM
Well tha is the cliff of the season. I guess we'll see.
ballofsteel
05-16-2008, 08:59 AM
Clark appeared to be completely paralyzed by the way that Lex was holding him. I don't think he can save himself. Maybe Martian Manhunter. Or maybe a human. The only humans that would think to go there are Lois and Jimmy based on the photos Jimmy gave her, but would they have the resources to get there?
I think Oliver Queen could help them get there just like he did with Chloe in Quest.
Ardiem3
05-16-2008, 09:00 AM
The fortress seemed to revert to its old form, not just destroy itself.
Old form...? I thought it only had one form, and that was what weve seen since Season 5's "Arrival." After it seemed to have collapsed, it appeared to be gone...
BadToad
05-16-2008, 09:06 AM
I think Clark will survive the collapse. If the collapse destroys the orb, then Clark's strength could return, and he could dig himself out of the rubble. But he won't find Lex, so that keeps Lex's fate a mystery.
Or perhaps Jor-El has some sort of failsafe, and he was able to wisk Clark out of there? Who knows with this Jor-El AI?
Smit6178
05-16-2008, 09:07 AM
I think the Fortress will just mysteriously reappear after three months. Clark will come out of it (possibly stronger in a Death of Superman kind of way) but Lex will strangely be missing.
Ardiem3
05-16-2008, 09:09 AM
I think the Fortress will just mysteriously reappear after three months. Clark will come out of it (possibly stronger in a Death of Superman kind of way) but Lex will strangely be missing.
Ok, if Lex went missing under the rubble, or even somewhere within the Fortress for more than a day, hed surely die, from the cold...
BWOracle
05-16-2008, 09:09 AM
What if Clark was sent to the Phantom Zone? In the final scene as they pull back while the FOS is collapsing, a bolt of energy shoots out from the crystal console and hit's Clark in the chest, knocking him down.
If Jor-El made the device because he feared that Kal-El may have gotten out of control and the only form of punishment Kryptonian's endorse was sending criminals to the PZ, why not have the device send him there (maybe even deactivate the back door escape)? Next season we could see Clark and Kara work together to find another means of escape.
As for Lex, maybe the device teleported him somewhere and wiped his memory of everything related to Krypton. Jor-El may have wanted to include some form of reset button including wiping out all evidence of the FOS. It could also explain why Lex from the movies doesn't connect Clark with Superman.
Just speculating.
SuperTal
05-16-2008, 09:35 AM
His fortress will stabilize under ground, and he will have to dive through water to enter/exit like in the cartoon.
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Yeah, I think Lex's memory will be wiped of all things Clark. Maybe he'll get transported to Detroit like Kara was.
Dor el
05-16-2008, 09:39 AM
Yeah, you think the Veritas members got it wrong?
i think the idea about the eradicator sounds right. maybe veritas got it wrong about being able to control the traveller. the orb could have been the missing piece to rebuild the FOS for clark to complete his training.
yoda1138777
05-16-2008, 10:23 AM
The orb will send them both to the PZ and from there with the help of MM & SG, because once again the writers will make Clark weak, they will all escape the PZ. And in the process Lex will come out with some coma/memory wipe that he will eventually get through with the help of Belreeve or Miss Tessmacher. And in escaping the PZ like last time; will unleash Doomsday. And then the Show Finale will be Chloe and Jimmy in a very long wedding dance with Shelby being the ring bearer. Oh and then Clark finds a piece of the FOS and rebuilds it in 2 mins.
Westix
05-16-2008, 10:55 AM
Imagine this scenario:
The fortress comes back by itself just after it collapses and Clark stands up, grabbing Lex by his neck
Lex goes: WTF?!?!?! I thought i could control everything, including you!
Jor-El: Mwahahahahaha! You thought wrong b****, why would i ever want you pityful humans to control my son.
Lex: I've been pwnt! No!
slipheraz
05-16-2008, 10:59 AM
I think that if they go the route of Lex having a memory wipe or something it would be a bad move, I think that if they made to where Clark disappeared when the fortress fell, then Lex would leave the arctic thinking he completed his mission and saved man-kind. Then when he gets back he arrested for the death of Mr. Teague and the plane crash which puts him in jail for a long time. That would explain his absense in Season 8, Now with the black ball it could be a key that retreats the fortress to hiding so that the one that seeks to control Clark can't find it and complete the task to control him.(Remember, Brainiac had to convince Lex to go to the fortress,because he couldnt hold the ball, but secretly, he wanted to control clark for himself) With that in mind about brainiac Jor-El built in this mechanism that would remove the fortress from access and that beam maybe takes clarks powers away for a moment until the threat is gone to prevent any manipulation from a 3rd party.
Then, with Lex being in prison and Clark back in Smallville, Clark starts looking at the Daily Planet application Lois brought him and start thinking about his future. Then when Lex finds out Clark didnt get destroyed he makes it his life mission to destroy Clark/Superman, thinking that he's helping man-kind cuz he still believes what Brainiac told him.
What do you think?
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