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Ardiem3
05-15-2008, 07:10 PM
After each Season Finale, they usually show "To Be Continued..." but hey didnt after "Arctic." Are we supposed to believe that events will take place right after the events of "Arctic," for the Season 8 Premiere, or will there be a time jump, to explain for Michael Rosenbaums departure? I was just wondering because it was either curious that they didnt put it, or they just didnt put it because of the strike, and "Arctic" footage was taped beforehand.

erikamichelle614
05-15-2008, 07:11 PM
I read somewhere that there is probably footage of him. They wouldn't have filmed that scene halfway, they definitely finished it.

lovingtom
05-15-2008, 07:17 PM
that was weird, i like was hey, what happened to the "To Be Continued"

aqgalaxy
05-15-2008, 07:18 PM
It's the end of the story... for AlMiles, thus the no to be continued.

wb-superman
05-15-2008, 07:20 PM
I was wondering the same thing when it was done. THey didn't show "To Be Continued". Now I found out they will probably time jump in the Season 8. I just hope Lex is the first episode of the next season. Cause I don't want 2 get confused with the time jump in the beginning of season 8.

clana4everfan2
05-15-2008, 07:22 PM
No Lex... next season... therefore no "To Be Continued".

Mar-El
05-15-2008, 07:24 PM
No Lex... next season... therefore no "To Be Continued".

Yeah, I think we have to brace ourselves for the very likely (and disappointing) possibility that next year will offer no explanation and leave things open-ended as to what happened. I doubt they have any hidden scenes with Lex up their sleeve, but if they do that would be a great surprise.

Rhaspodel
05-15-2008, 07:26 PM
So since there is no TBC, this means this finale wasn't a cliffhanger at all. What a shocker?

jimmyolsenblues
05-15-2008, 07:27 PM
there was no to be continued because michael is currently refusing to reprise the role is what I took from his letter to fans.

superspider02
05-15-2008, 07:27 PM
Yea that was a surpise no to be continue. It would be nice if they did shoot something with tom and michael to use in the preimere to explain were lex goes.

Jesstheveg
05-15-2008, 07:30 PM
They may have their faults, but I really don't think they'd show a half-assed scene like that without any follow through in the premiere.

That being said, I also noticed the lack of 'to be continued.' I'm definitely interested as to why, but honestly don't think that's it for that storyline or scene. I'm sure there are bits that have been filmed and saved for the premiere.

superspider02
05-15-2008, 07:33 PM
Yea hopefully they did shoot something with them both to finish the scene in the preiemre.

Mar-El
05-15-2008, 07:36 PM
They may have their faults, but I really don't think they'd show a half-assed scene like that without any follow through in the premiere.

I think a lot of fans are assuming this, but what if this isn't the case? What if that's exactly how they intended to end it and basically we'll need to rely on some Verizon phone clip or DVD extra to fill in the missing pieces?

That would be super lame.

ZODisGOD
05-15-2008, 07:37 PM
if theres no TBC, that means the events of the premiere wont really be happening right after this season's finale events. So that means Chloe will be in jail longer, Kara will be in the PZ longer, Lois&Jimmy wondering where Clark&Lex went, etc... There will be like a 3-4 month time jump. Remember S2 to S3 and S3 to S4?

TECHWON
05-15-2008, 07:37 PM
i know its kind of weird but we shall see in 4 months

Rhaspodel
05-15-2008, 07:40 PM
I remember those s2-s3 and s3-s4 end; each of those transitions were a 3 month span it was even mentioned in s3 and s4 premieres. so s7-s8 might follow that trend.

Ardiem3
05-15-2008, 07:46 PM
I remember those s2-s3 and s3-s4 end; each of those transitions were a 3 month span it was even mentioned in s3 and s4 premieres. so s7-s8 might follow that trend.

After all of those, they still showed "To Be Continued..."

Super Maverick
05-15-2008, 07:48 PM
the shows over it never coming back

thats why no tbc

Smit6178
05-15-2008, 07:50 PM
Yeah this was the first season finale since the third season that didn't have a "to be continued." Both seasons two and three ended like that and the supsequent season premieres picked up three months later as opposed to immediately therearfter. I thought tonight's episode strangely felt like an appropriate end to the show itself.

Ardiem3
05-15-2008, 07:50 PM
the shows over it never coming back

thats why no tbc

Haha, I guess thats why its been renewed for Season 8 and is on the schedule for 2008-2009... yep, not coming back :lol:

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Yeah this was the first season finale since the third season that didn't have a "to be continued." Both seasons two and three ended like that and the supsequent season premieres picked up three months later as opposed to immediately therearfter. I thought tonight's episode strangely felt like an appropriate end to the show itself.

It was no way an approproate end. There were alot of cliffhangers and questions unanswered.

ClarkyBoy14
05-15-2008, 07:59 PM
I was surprised too. Are they going to pick up 4 months later and have flashbacks and/or narrations explaining what happened?

I think the ending was great though, because we have no idea about what's next.

LexLuv180
05-15-2008, 11:18 PM
We don't? We know Clark and Lex are to survive, because neither can die. We also know the fortress has to be rebuilt somehow because Clark trains in it later. The point is they're just not going to show the Lex resolution on the show itself.

MozartRequiem
05-15-2008, 11:22 PM
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They may have their faults, but I really don't think they'd show a half-assed scene like that without any follow through in the premiere.

That being said, I also noticed the lack of 'to be continued.' I'm definitely interested as to why, but honestly don't think that's it for that storyline or scene. I'm sure there are bits that have been filmed and saved for the premiere."

Agreed, and I think perhaps the lack of "to be continued" could be because they may jump forward in time and show that Lex has been controlling Clark for months or something, and then end it with Clark snapping out of it and them having the TRUE FINAL CONFRONTATION that we all have been CRAVING to see.

That's what I hope at least.

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"I read somewhere that there is probably footage of him. They wouldn't have filmed that scene halfway, they definitely finished it."

Where did you read this? Please let me know your source, because this would make my wait over the summer SO much less anxiety-filled, seriously! :)

PKII
05-15-2008, 11:53 PM
After each Season Finale, they usually show "To Be Continued..." but hey didnt after "Arctic." Are we supposed to believe that events will take place right after the events of "Arctic," for the Season 8 Premiere, or will there be a time jump, to explain for Michael Rosenbaums departure? I was just wondering because it was either curious that they didnt put it, or they just didnt put it because of the strike, and "Arctic" footage was taped beforehand. Guess that was a wrap. :lol: The episode was so bad they didn't think they needed to be continued I guess. I see 90210 is coming to the CW channel at least I will have something to watch. :lol:

boywithbluehanger
05-16-2008, 12:20 AM
I for one think it would be interesting to start the season off with no clue as to what happened in the aftermath of the fight between Clark and Lex. Clark would know, but viewers will have to wait as the story unfolds to see whether or not Lex remembers everything and if he saved Clark from destruction in the FOS or if somehow Clark saved them both. Also, if Jor-El was behind the crumbling demise of the fortress in a final attempt to protect Clark.

After all, with seasonal arcs and sagas, Smallville is more mystery based than a primetime crime drama.

phoenixforce86
05-16-2008, 12:40 AM
After each Season Finale, they usually show "To Be Continued..." but hey didnt after "Arctic." Are we supposed to believe that events will take place right after the events of "Arctic," for the Season 8 Premiere, or will there be a time jump, to explain for Michael Rosenbaums departure? I was just wondering because it was either curious that they didnt put it, or they just didnt put it because of the strike, and "Arctic" footage was taped beforehand.

My guess is that since Gough and Millar and a few cast members left the show, the new produrcers closed this chapter and will come up with somethiing COMPLETELY different next year! I think that the storyline will take different directions from the past seven seasons! Maybe this is also the reason why they arenīt including supergirl, which I think sucks:mad:

Batman/Superman#1
05-16-2008, 12:56 AM
They havent use the to be continued thing since the season 4 finale.

ChronX4
05-16-2008, 01:02 AM
They havent use the to be continued thing since the season 4 finale.


I just watched the season 6 finale.....it had it.

biggkoz
05-16-2008, 05:19 AM
That episode was suppose to be the SERIES finale.

Timester
05-16-2008, 05:30 AM
I for one think it would be interesting to start the season off with no clue as to what happened in the aftermath of the fight between Clark and Lex. Clark would know, but viewers will have to wait as the story unfolds to see whether or not Lex remembers everything and if he saved Clark from destruction in the FOS or if somehow Clark saved them both. Also, if Jor-El was behind the crumbling demise of the fortress in a final attempt to protect Clark.

This.

For once we have a pure comics book ending, that leaves every thing open for the next season. My conclusion? AlMiles got us used to cliffhangers that we know what is going to happen next and when we get a different kind of cliffhanger/open ending, people don't understood it.

This is very simple, MR is gone next season, but Lex IS NOT, he is just MIA. They can't send off Lex's character just because the actor is gone. This is a show with a written ending and Lex is part of that ending.

What sucked about that scene was it was too damn short.

skully
05-16-2008, 05:51 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Interesting.

But I agree with all those that were surprised we didn't get the traditional "To Be Continued..."

Still, I look forward to the Premiere of S8 in 4 months.

boywithbluehanger
05-16-2008, 09:35 AM
This.
What sucked about that scene was it was too damn short.


Yeah I agree, it was way too short. I looked at the clock and was wondering why there was only 5 minutes left! There should have been 7 minutes of dialog while being in the fortress and maybe a cut scene or two in between when either Clark or Lex is speaking. I'm such a monday morning quaterback when it comes to season finales. Overall, the ending was decent. Not great, but not total suckage.

dunkman
05-16-2008, 09:44 AM
I noticed that it was odd that it didn't say, "To Be Continued", too, but I don't think it means anything. That scene was way too short, though! Why name the episode "Arctic", & then have them only in the Arctic for 5 minutes?

LoveHurts38
05-16-2008, 09:45 AM
It should of been 2 hours with a TBC.

MetropolisGirl4SV
05-16-2008, 09:50 AM
The final interaction between Clark and Lex was way to short...I was very disappointed. And I'm sorry to burst your bubble guys but from what I conceive MR is not coming back for any flash back scenes. He is done with SV and I'm actually happy for him though I'll miss him dearly as Lex. They probably will have some stupid explanation for why Lex is not in S8 or just think he's dead. And Clark will go on with his life still attempting to understand what destiny he has to embrace.

6-Super-Man -5
05-16-2008, 09:55 AM
I think AlMiles didn't wanna put an "To Be Continued" because its their last episode.

ChronX4
05-16-2008, 10:23 AM
I've been thinking about this, but then again I disprove it myself, but let me just throw it out there.

What if when Clark started his training in the season 5 premiere, he was never interupted?

What if next season opens up with that explination?

Jor-El has the power to show an AU, why wouldn't he be able to show a simulation of Clark's real universe?

Like I said, many things disprove this, but I'm just getting it out of my head.

Super Maverick
05-16-2008, 02:08 PM
I think AlMiles didn't wanna put an "To Be Continued" because its their last episode.

this honestly makes the most sense.

biggkoz
05-16-2008, 05:12 PM
If that is so what a horrible ending to 7 years of whatever this show has become. I know the no tights no flight thing but really can they be anymore vague with everything? They never seem to just get to the point. The show is called smallville..not superboy or whatever. Even the aquaman show was called mercy reef..who the hell knows what mercy reef is? I think they need to just do something...well they cant now cuz they quit,which may be the best thing for this show cuz stuff might actually happen next season now.

Ardiem3
05-16-2008, 10:44 PM
I think AlMiles didn't wanna put an "To Be Continued" because its their last episode.

But it was not the LAST episode, so since its going to be continued, on through Season 8, it wouldve made sense to put "To Be Continued..."

npower1
05-17-2008, 03:28 AM
'to be continued' takes time that can be bettered used for revenue gathering via advertising.

Rocky
05-17-2008, 12:54 PM
I think Lex forced Clark to accpect his destiny, so Clark may come back like a couple years later. Not a cliffhanger, how else do you explain the fos going down, onlu way is to accpect his destiny underwater emerge from the water, a new man. get a job at the daily planet, move out of the kent farm, moves to metroplois, cause he know there people need to be saved, that was the orignal plan from season or season 7, hopefully should be in season 8, Al and Miles did a interview. as the season was going into season 6,he doesn't have to become superman, he can be a hero, use a mask, do his super hero role.

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Ardiem3
Artic was filmed 3 weeks ago, some parts where filmed before the strke, but the last scene was filmed 3 weeks ago, cause when apolcalypse was aired there where still filming quest, then artic

INSTAGATR
05-17-2008, 01:30 PM
They should have put "To be Canceled". That would have been more fitting.

Mr.Magic
05-17-2008, 02:23 PM
move out of the kent farm, moves to metroplois

Why would he do that? Living in suburbia is much more fun, and it's only a 5 minute drive from the farm to the DP anyway. Didn't you get the memo? :p

RJLCyberPunk
05-17-2008, 02:29 PM
Considering it's horrible ending and the fact that all canon characters are being scrapped in favor of insipid non canon characters like Chloe Sullivan I would rather see the show end here...:( It would be far better to be greeted next season with what should be renamed "The Chloe Sullivan show":mad:

INSTAGATR
05-17-2008, 02:54 PM
nice

Mr.Magic
05-17-2008, 03:46 PM
...

Take your meds. Calm down.

Yes, they scrapped three comic characters, namely Ma and Pa Kent and Lex Luthor, which is sad. I really miss the Kents (Lex Loser can freeze in hell).
On the other hand, you really only need Clark, Lois, Jimmy and Perry. Everybody else has only guest appearances in the comics. Personally, I'd like to see some Lois-Clark-Lane dynamic next season, bringing back Lucy and General Lane (who - in the comics - thinks CK is a wuss).

attitudejc
05-17-2008, 06:45 PM
The Lois-Clark-Lane dynamic would bore me...

i also don't really understand why people get upset over smallville not following the comics...such as taking out comic characters..because smallville is suppose to have its original story, thats the point of having their tv series....almiles said they didn't have to worry about the ending matching with the future superman we all know, becuase this isn't the real superman story...
please don't attack me..im just saying my thoughts :)

Mr.Magic
05-17-2008, 07:22 PM
It's all in the writing.
Episodes with the General could involve the military for instance.

We aren't upset because the show isn't like the comics. The Superman show wasn't like the comics either.
We're upset because he isn't the real Clark Kent. The one that manages to cling to hope in the worst and most dire situations. The CK who puts the world and everyone in it before his own needs and wants. This Clark Kent could never become Superman. Well, maybe something like the Emoman from SR. Yes, Smallville isn't a Superman story. AlMiles are hacks, and they are just as clueless as Singer was.
I am glad that Kristin got fed up and those two don't have any reason to stick around.

GuardianAngel
05-23-2008, 06:55 AM
No "To be continued"... Even "Covenant" didn't have it, so I guess TPTB will start season 8 some weeks/months later, like they did with "Crusade".

WickedJenn
05-23-2008, 08:00 AM
I don't remember one after season 6 either...

Ardiem3
05-23-2008, 09:58 AM
I don't remember one after season 6 either...

There was one after Season 6's Finale, "Phantom," There just wasnt one in Season 2's "Exodus," Season 3's "Covenant," and Season 7's "Arctic." Those were all time jump episodes too, so that may be a theory...?

stenochick
05-23-2008, 10:06 AM
There was one after Season 6's Finale, "Phantom," There just wasnt one in Season 2's "Exodus," Season 3's "Covenant," and Season 7's "Arctic." Those were all time jump episodes too, so that may be a theory...?

Yes, that is a very good point. What a bummer. I was hoping that the season 8 premiere would pick up right were Arctic left off wth more footage of MR. But, that does not seem likely. It appears that when they return in September 2008, it will be after a few months have gone by like in past seasons. :(

Let's see. Season 1 to Season 2 was the tornado; Season 4 to season 5 was the second meteor shower/space ship/FOS; season 5 to season 6 was Zod/Black Thursday; and Season 6 to Season 7 was the dam collapse/Bizzaro. Those were all continuous in time. I am assuming those were the ones that said "to be continued" at the end.

Ardiem3
05-23-2008, 10:14 AM
Yes, that is a very good point. What a bummer. I was hoping that the season 8 premiere would pick up right were Arctic left off wth more footage of MR. But, that does not seem likely. It appears that when they return in September 2008, it will be after a few months have gone by like in past seasons. :(

Let's see. Season 1 to Season 2 was the tornado; Season 4 to season 5 was the second meteor shower/space ship/FOS; season 5 to season 6 was Zod/Black Thursday; and Season 6 to Season 7 was the dam collapse/Bizzaro. Those were all continuous in time. I am assuming those were the ones that said "to be continued" at the end.

Yea, my theory is, itll start off with Chloe in jail (for she asked and needed Clark's help), Lana somewhere in the world, with Clark and Lex missing for the whole time. Some will presume both of them dead, until Clark emerges, with a near dead, and unconcious, Lex. I have faith in the writers, and theyll figure and work it out nicely, I'm sure. One can just hope that they have some scenes of Lex already filmed, that they can use for the premiere, and some for throughout the season.

stenochick
05-23-2008, 10:46 AM
Yea, my theory is, itll start off with Chloe in jail (for she asked and needed Clark's help), Lana somewhere in the world, with Clark and Lex missing for the whole time. Some will presume both of them dead, until Clark emerges, with a near dead, and unconcious, Lex. I have faith in the writers, and theyll figure and work it out nicely, I'm sure. One can just hope that they have some scenes of Lex already filmed, that they can use for the premiere, and some for throughout the season.

That sounds great to me. Watching the repeat of Bizarro last night has restored my faith in the writers. :)

ChronX4
05-23-2008, 11:04 AM
That sounds great to me. Watching the repeat of Bizarro last night has restored my faith in the writers. :)

Watching it made me realize that the way MM described Bizarro is exactly how they should have approached the idea of Doomsday.

WickedJenn
05-23-2008, 11:35 AM
There was one after Season 6's Finale, "Phantom," There just wasnt one in Season 2's "Exodus," Season 3's "Covenant," and Season 7's "Arctic." Those were all time jump episodes too, so that may be a theory...?

Ah ok, I was having a brain fart and couldn't remember.

Ooh interesting, you may be correct, there could be a time jump. I hadn't thought of that!

SnowBird
05-23-2008, 12:10 PM
I believe there will be a jump in time as well. I remember on one of the season's DVDs when Martha "Annette" said that Clark disappeared from the farm and wasn't around for a couple of summers. I wonder who is going to do the chores? It would be interesting if there were a five year jump and Clark was even closer to becoming Superman.

stenochick
05-23-2008, 12:17 PM
I believe there will be a jump in time as well. I remember on one of the season's DVDs when Martha "Annette" said that Clark disappeared from the farm and wasn't around for a couple of summers. I wonder who is going to do the chores? It would be interesting if there were a five year jump and Clark was even closer to becoming Superman.

I think Annette is referring to the summer between seasons 2 and 3, and then the following summer between seasons 3 and 4. Basically, for those episodes, Smallville-time would have been realtime: finale ends with the school year in May and premiere picks up with new school year in September of same year.

Other seasons had time stand still for Smallville as the May finale and the September premieres were only microseconds apart.

Leviathan
05-23-2008, 08:29 PM
The Show might be renewed to come back, but that doesn't mean: A) that it couldn't be cancelled if the first few episodes of the season sucked on ratings B) that they couldn't find another someone to play Lex Luthor.

I know, I hear the cries of revolt now (even in my own head) but hear me out.

Michael Rosenbaum is leaving the show, but there was no announcement that the Character of Lex Luthor was leaving the show. They could get someone to play the part in a couple episodes, might not like it, but it could happen.

To be honest I was more surprised to hear that Laura V wouldn't be a series regular.

wildenchantress_kt
05-23-2008, 09:35 PM
Please go for the time jump. It would make a good logical explaination. It reminds me of the season three finale where all the characters were seperated and doing their own thing.

I would also like a scene where Clark explains to someone (Chloe or Lana if they are on the show) what happened between him and Lex in the fortress. It worked well in both "Gone" and "Kara". Previously Lex did both of those scenes with Clark explaining what happened it maybe more emotional.

ChronX4
05-23-2008, 10:17 PM
I'm suspecting a time jump is at hand.
Now for the real question, how much time will pass?

wildenchantress_kt
05-29-2008, 01:38 AM
Usually the time jumps have been three months. There was one between eps 1/2 in season 2 and between seasons 2/3 and 3/4. Although you have to consider that on all of those occasions that it was summer vacation for the characters. There hasn't been a time jump since season 3/4. Once Clark graduated at the end of season 4 the tradition has been "TO BE CONTINUED" title at the end of each season.

Khyla
06-25-2008, 09:59 PM
For once we have a pure comics book ending, that leaves every thing open for the next season. My conclusion? AlMiles got us used to cliffhangers that we know what is going to happen next and when we get a different kind of cliffhanger/open ending, people don't understood it.

This is very simple, MR is gone next season, but Lex IS NOT, he is just MIA. They can't send off Lex's character just because the actor is gone. This is a show with a written ending and Lex is part of that ending.

What sucked about that scene was it was too damn short.
I have to agree with you.

And just because we don't see Lex, doesn't mean he isn't there still pulling the strings..... from the underground perhaps?

i also think tptb decided to leave the series finale open-ended because they weren't really sure what turn the planned storyline would take for next season, if at all: (rumors that the CW, itself, might not survive.... )

I would like to see a time jump, maybe even 5 years into the future.

vezz801
06-25-2008, 10:13 PM
Usually the time jumps have been three months. There was one between eps 1/2 in season 2 and between seasons 2/3 and 3/4. Although you have to consider that on all of those occasions that it was summer vacation for the characters. There hasn't been a time jump since season 3/4. Once Clark graduated at the end of season 4 the tradition has been "TO BE CONTINUED" title at the end of each season.

true... and odyssey will probably take place about two-three months after arctic... although i still dont understand why clark would be oating in the arctic.... amnesia? i hope not, aside from cloning, thats something else ive come not to like (although blank was pretty good)


I have to agree with you.

And just because we don't see Lex, doesn't mean he isn't there still pulling the strings..... from the underground perhaps?

i also think tptb decided to leave the series finale open-ended because they weren't really sure what turn the planned storyline would take for next season, if at all: (rumors that the CW, itself, might not survive.... )

I would like to see a time jump, maybe even 5 years into the future.

five years into the future would be cool.... then they could jump back to three months after arctic... show the future then go back... and the finale would be clark getting close (if u know what i mean) to that destiny... cool idea khyla