This was supposed to be the end of the series?

[Yoshua]

.... I am disapointed. This entire season has been a disapointment.


Season 6 started off with Zod and Ended with Bizzaro. That was fantastic season. Season 7 seems almost winged. I understand the writers strike but Al/Miles should have had a clear ending in place for this series years ago.


This ending does not do this series justice, and if this is the reason Al/Miles is no longer around, good riddance. They had a good run but this season, the season that should have been the pinnacle of everything that had happened before. The explanations of naman and sageith, the explanations of how the majority of the meteor rocks were removed so they werent common place, the explanations of how Lois got a firm foot in the door of the daily planet, which so far as I can tell was handed to her by a clone lex created. The explanation of how Clark Kent decided to take his trials and truly become Superman.


We were left with no explanations. And the so called 'cliff hangers' we were left with are NOTHING in comparison to either season 3,4,5 or 6.

Good Riddance Al/Miles, you did good to create a show, but you let the fans down big time in ending it.


Season 8 should have been an afterthough, even an opportunity to jump a few years into the future. Now I fear we will have a repeat of Season 7 where Red Kryptonite is some how infused into Nestle Strawberry Milk and give someone the power to liquidate.


Gotta make money off those Stride ads right?...

[colonyofcells]

Disappointment will continue if we try to force Superman from other media into Smallville. Smallville is just a different show from the Superman in other media and they will probably never be similar nor will Smallville ever explain the Superman in other media.

Smallville is mainly about young Clark Kent before the costume mixed in with lots of teen drama. I am sure the purpose of Smallville is not to explain the Superman mythology in other media. Smallville has modified the Superman mythology a lot so it is more of an alternate universe. It would be a waste of effort for Smallville to try to explain the mythology of old Superman movies that are more than 30 years old.

[Yoshua]

Not talking about the movies. I am talking about the canon. The fact that Lex isn't supposed to know who clark is, the fact that clark HAS to take his trials to become educated in all that is kryptonian, the fact that clark is in his 20's and shows no true interest in becoming a reporter.

I get alternate universe but if you are going to go that route this 'universe' has taken 'superman' so far off course they should call him boy wonder and change his name from Clark, nor have any reference to krypton and call the meteor rocks something else.


The fact is this IS superman's beginnings, alternate universe or not. And AL/Miles said from the get go that this will be his coming of age and how he becomes the man of steel.

They epically failed this season to come remotely close to that goal, and on top of that they had no clue there would be a season 8 when season 7 began. It makes me believe they were fired, this was their original scripts and when the studio got wind of how they intended to end the series they granted another season to do a proper send off.


If I had read the last script for this series as a cast regular I would second guess re upping my contract for season 8 as well.

[Timester]

This was never supposed to be the end of the series, because this was written with the knowledge that season 8 was set. I don't know where you got that idea.

[black_spidey728]

This was never supposed to be the end of the series, because this was written with the knowledge that season 8 was set. I don't know where you got that idea.

Yeah, I'm not sure where you got that from either. I thought season 8 was always gonna be the last one. Can you fill us in on where you got 7 from?

[baltazor]

Well anyway i didn't like the finale that much either. It had a lot of holes and they didn't even bother to give Lex's and Clark's showdown some more time. I expected Lex to be at least overwhelmed when he actually understood who the traveler really is. Such an important moment and they blew it big time. The season definitely had some good episodes and arcs but it was less than what i thought it would be. They said Clark would have come to terms with his heritage by season's end and i just don't see him any different than before.
This season's finale was extremely disappointing...

[Ardiem3]

Ok, how and why would they end the series with Kara in the Phantom Zone, Chloe arrested, Lana apparently leaving town, and the Fortress collapsing on Clark and Lex...? It was a Season Finale like others, and the Season 8 Finale, will most likely be the Series Finale...

[ballofsteel]

I agree with most things in this thread. Al/Miles were really just running out of steam. Most of the things that happen in the show are complete jokes. The way they have portrayed Superman is embarrassing. I've never watched a show with as many plotholes, the only thing that keeps me going is hopefully one day we will see the true Superman (flying, suit etc.) even if it is the last episode.

I can understand some of the things with the writers strike but the plot this season was horrific. Sorry if I've gone off topic.

[hemmy]

Compared to Season 7, Season 6 was rather pathetic

It had some good episodes, but a bunch of crap ones

S7 is miles ahead IMO.

[Yoshua]

This was never supposed to be the end of the series, because this was written with the knowledge that season 8 was set. I don't know where you got that idea.

This season was supposed to be the end of the series, and no, it was not begun with the outlook of having an 8th season.

I don't know where you got your information but this show was slated for 7 seasons until the middle of the writers strike it wasn't confirmed for 8.

[Ardiem3]

This season was supposed to be the end of the series, and no, it was not begun with the outlook of having an 8th season.

I don't know where you got your information but this show was slated for 7 seasons until the middle of the writers strike it wasn't confirmed for 8.

So I suppose, they left "Arctic" open for alot of cliffhangers and questions unanswered, for it to be the Series Finale...? With each season, they have an ending in mind, so that they know how to get from Point A to Point B, so if what youre saying is true, they completely changed "Arctic" to give us a Season 8, which wouldnt make sense...

[Yoshua]

Go back and look at the dates for when they announced season 8 and the canning of Al/Miles.

[boywithbluehanger]

Go back and look at the dates for when they announced season 8 and the canning of Al/Miles.

You make an interesting point that is similar to what I imagined as well. The timing of the series and the announcements that this may have been the last season prior to the writers strike does add up. AlMiles were hinting at this possibly being the last season months before the strike and the reason they left actually advocates that belief.

They wanted to do more outside of Smallville and they didn't have the time to do so while still being involved with the show...only after the strike were we told that the Veritas arc was meant to be left as a cliffhanger. They more than likely were going to try and pitch for next season to be the last.

*My speculation is that the CW execs wanted to sign them on for at least 2 more seasons (as they are hanging onto and milking the crap out of Smallville) and AlMIles didn't want that for the show OR for themselves. In the end, both sides went their separate ways.*

[Timester]

Go back and look at the dates for when they announced season 8 and the canning of Al/Miles.

Uh, no. They knew about the season 8 even before the writers strike. AlMiles were actively pursuing season 8 since last October, at least.

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You make an interesting point that is similar to what I imagined as well. The timing of the series and the announcements that this may have been the last season prior to the writers strike does add up. AlMiles were hinting at this possibly being the last season months before the strike and the reason they left actually advocates that belief.

No, because Al Gough was the one that pushed for a season 8 on several interviews back in October/November 2007. They wanted a season 8.

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So I suppose, they left "Arctic" open for alot of cliffhangers and questions unanswered, for it to be the Series Finale...? With each season, they have an ending in mind, so that they know how to get from Point A to Point B, so if what youre saying is true, they completely changed "Arctic" to give us a Season 8, which wouldnt make sense...

Heck, they even promoted Veritas, it was supposed to be season 7 finale, as a cliffhanger episode. Both CW and AlMiles.

[Yoshua]

No, it wasnt announced before the strike. And if they wrote this season in the mindset that it was going to be going on for 8 years before it was approved, another good riddance and bad form.

[Timester]

No, it wasnt announced before the strike. And if they wrote this season in the mindset that it was going to be going on for 8 years before it was approved, another good riddance and bad form.

It wasn't announced, but it was pretty much implied.

[boywithbluehanger]

No, because Al Gough was the one that pushed for a season 8 on several interviews back in October/November 2007. They wanted a season 8.


That was during the time that the writers strike was becoming a definite possibility,(I remember because before Halloween I was going to go as a poor writer with a messy suit crooked tie and a picket sign :lol:) I beleive this factored in their decision.

[Theshadow129x]

before everyone bashes the op let me say that i agree too. they knew this was the last time we would see MR and KK on the show and they ended it like this! epic fail! they could have wrapped things up better than that. nothing got wrapped up it was all left to hang knowing we wont see Lex next year, all they will say is that he's missing and people will come in to search for him

[Smallvillebabe08]

What are you guys talking about? :confused:It ruled

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

I don't know whether Al's and Miles knew about season 8 or not but they made this season finale a travesty. They were the creators of such a amazing show and they decide to go out like this it just saddens me.

I agree with Yoshua on his point that the ending doesn't do the season any Justice.

After the build up with Quest it came to this. First off they should of never started the finale with Lois in the opening scene. It should of started off with Lex looking at the globe that they ended off with in Quest. I was also disappointed that Braniac was the one who had to tell Lex that Clark was the Traveler. Couldn't Lex make the revelation himself after all his obsessing!

And what a cheesy break up yes I understand that KK was busy with her work, but they could of shot it prior and if they couldn't have shot it then they should have left it out. KK is coming back for S8,so it was just pointless.
-It looks like Lana will always be Clark's first love and Lois is just rebound. Why couldn't Clark break up with her or maybe Lana should of had a better reason for breaking up with him. However she was right about holding him back.

They wasted so much time with the dialog between Jimmy and Lex that we never got enough time for Clex scenes. It was pointless to have so much time wasted with Jimmy.
I knew Lex was going to call the DDS on Chloe the second Jimmy lied to Lois.

Chloe didn't have proper dialog with Clark it was just rushed, her only good scenes were with Braniac. And I actually wish she stayed in her coma at least that would have left us with some suspense. It would have been cool if her healing power was so strong that the effect that Braniac had on Lana was transferred to her and thats how Lana gets out of her comatose state. I mean Braniac himself was totally zapped the second he attacked Chloe. It was awesome when he said "What the Hell are you"

The Clois scenes were good but was it just me...or did it look like ED was over acting when she was doing her scenes with Clark/TW. I didn't really enjoy the first scene with Clark, but I thought the hug after the break up was good but also awkward...and the timing was off. She should of been running to him because her cuz was in the hospital.

What happened to all the Chlo-Lo moments...your cousin is in a comatose state and you don't even show up at the hospital! Maybe it's revenge for not caring about Lois when she was shot by that weird Gina lady:lol:.

LV actually was very impressive in her acting. I was happy about that. Hopefully she
will have consistency with her acting and it will just be stronger in the future.

The Clex scenes in the FOS were not epic at all...the final face off was pathetic. Lex/MR could of done so much better in the acting arena, but I don't blame him I blame the writing. When Clark says "I can explain" How in Gods name are you going to explain everything! And How was the orb going to control him I just didn't understand it. The dialog was weak and there was no intensity between MR/TW. I wish there was at least some action like fighting, but of course something always has to weaken Clark,so he just falls to the ground like a sissy. Great Build up (sarcasm).

There is more I can complain about and nit pick about,but I just don't have the energy.
I'm not totally bashing the episode it did have some good but not at all what I was expecting.

If the writers and exec's are not willing to give us a decent storyline after all our fan dedication why should I care. It seems like it's all about the money. I'm still going to see season 8 but I'm not going to harbor all the hope I had for this season. I wish season 8 starts out fresh and I can forget about the disappointment of this finale. With MR, JG gone for good I don't know what to expect anymore.:\ *sigh*

[Jaded Wolf]

Disappointment will continue if we try to force Superman from other media into Smallville. Smallville is just a different show from the Superman in other media and they will probably never be similar nor will Smallville ever explain the Superman in other media.

Smallville is mainly about young Clark Kent before the costume mixed in with lots of teen drama. I am sure the purpose of Smallville is not to explain the Superman mythology in other media. Smallville has modified the Superman mythology a lot so it is more of an alternate universe. It would be a waste of effort for Smallville to try to explain the mythology of old Superman movies that are more than 30 years old.

I am so tired of this excuse. I understand what you are saying so I am not trying to dog you on this one but even a re-imagining has to show some respect to the original. Take the Ultimate Marvel universe for instance. Complete re-imagining but it is done without disrespecting what came before it and without disrespecting the fans.

Smallville was a re-imagining of the Superman mythos that much is true. However, they also said it would show the early years of Clark Kent and his progression to the Man of Steel. First question right off the bat: Where is that progression? There hasn't been any!!! All we've seen is the same Clark pining over Lana with the same drama between them each season (Clark's keeping secrets from Lana, Lana's keeping secrets from Clark) and the same break-up each season. We've seen Clark tell his mom he will accept Jor-El's training last season to now refusing to do so once again like back in Season 2 and 3. There is no progression here.

Also, if it is a waste of time to compare other media of Superman to Smallville than why did the writers include of Fortress of Solitude and its creation taken completely from Superman: The Movie? They also violated their rule of no flight, no tights with introduciton of Kara, Green Arrow, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Braniac, Zod, and Cyborg. So why even continue to make Clark stay grounded or not have some suit? Everything the creators promised in the beginning they have forgotten and broken.

They've ignored the mythos in an attempt to do nothing more than to make Smallville a teen soap opera. The progression is not there, plot holes abound throughout the series, and it seriously looks like the actors are no longer having fun with it nor or they trying to really act. I hope Season 8 will fix alot of things but I doubt it.

[Kal-alien]

What are you guys talking about? :confused:It ruled

Yeah, i agree, i didn't think it was nearly as bad as most of you think. We must have been watching a different show, Smallvillebabe08. I thought the acting was top notch this eppisode, It was good to get closure on Teague (which no one has really mentioned yet). I thought there were some things that were written to keep people from ditching the show. Look at the buzz it's generating. I'm sure everything will be explained in the S8 premiere.

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

I am so tired of this excuse. I understand what you are saying so I am not trying to dog you on this one but even a re-imagining has to show some respect to the original. Take the Ultimate Marvel universe for instance. Complete re-imagining but it is done without disrespecting what came before it and without disrespecting the fans.

Smallville was a re-imagining of the Superman mythos that much is true. However, they also said it would show the early years of Clark Kent and his progression to the Man of Steel. First question right off the bat: Where is that progression? There hasn't been any!!! All we've seen is the same Clark pining over Lana with the same drama between them each season (Clark's keeping secrets from Lana, Lana's keeping secrets from Clark) and the same break-up each season. We've seen Clark tell his mom he will accept Jor-El's training last season to now refusing to do so once again like back in Season 2 and 3. There is no progression here.



Also, if it is a waste of time to compare other media of Superman to Smallville than why did the writers include of Fortress of Solitude and its creation taken completely from Superman: The Movie? They also violated their rule of no flight, no tights with introduciton of Kara, Green Arrow, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Braniac, Zod, and Cyborg. So why even continue to make Clark stay grounded or not have some suit? Everything the creators promised in the beginning they have forgotten and broken.

They've ignored the mythos in an attempt to do nothing more than to make Smallville a teen soap opera. The progression is not there, plot holes abound throughout the series, and it seriously looks like the actors are no longer having fun with it nor or they trying to really act. I hope Season 8 will fix alot of things but I doubt it.


I couldn't have said it better Jaded Wolf you deserve major props! But sadly it looks as if your right this show has become 90210 in the form off super heros. :\