Controlling Clark

[jayden77]

Just a question

How is Lex controlling Clark if he's destroying the FOS and they both die (as I think it's meant to make us beleive)?
Was I wrong to beleive that Lex had the chance to control an alien with superpowers & to use these powers to his advantage but instead destroyed him and himself???
We all know that Lex is not that selfless!

[redeem147]

Lex really did seem sort of twistedly noble, sacrificing himself for the human race, however misguidedly.

[ClarkNLanaTogether4Eva]

Just a question

How is Lex controlling Clark if he's destroying the FOS and they both die (as I think it's meant to make us beleive)?
Was I wrong to beleive that Lex had the chance to control an alien with superpowers & to use these powers to his advantage but instead destroyed him and himself???
We all know that Lex is not that selfless!
Lex is controlling Clark.

When Lex put the purple orb/weapon into the icicle, the entire FOS lit up and CLARK FELL to the GROUND. He couldn't even get up, meaning the controlling sensation is beginning in his brain.

Lex came to Clark and started holding him, while Clark couldn't even breathe/talk. The last thing Lex said to him was "I am sorry" and the FOS collapsed on them both, showed an aerial view of Lex looking up into the sky. Final scene..the moon, and the snow-covered ground.

So, Lex did control Clark and inevitably caused the cave-in by opening the weapon and turning it on.

[Superman of Krypton]

I think Deus Ex Machina Jor-El did something.

Destroyed the Fortress before the device could take full effect.

[Timester]

I think Deus Ex Machina Jor-El did something.

Destroyed the Fortress before the device could take full effect.

I doubt, since it was Jor-El that send the device in the first place. And the device controlled Clark by the means of the FoS, not controlling Clark directly.

[jayden77]

I understand that he was controlling him by Clark not being able to leave. What I don't understand is why would he not control him by making him do his bidding - using his powers for his own purpose, making Clark tell him what his powers are. That's what I envisionned Lex doing.
I suppose that I thought that JorEl would of sent the orb to control Clark, had he turned evil. Therefore allowing the human holding the orb to control Clark and stopping him from taking over the world. Or was the orb actually meant to kill Clark in the event he turned Evil?

[BadToad]

We never really knew what the device would do. It seems that no one knew could know for sure. So, it seems like it incapacitated Clark, which is a means of controlling him. But perhaps Jor-El built in a failsafe? Who can say with SV's Jor-El? He never makes a lick of sense.

[dru-zod2501]

I think Deus Ex Machina Jor-El did something.

Destroyed the Fortress before the device could take full effect.
ditto


I doubt, since it was Jor-El that send the device in the first place. And the device controlled Clark by the means of the FoS, not controlling Clark directly.
but it was real Jor-el who made the device, not AI jor-el. It's not impossible that Jor-AI knows that Clark, while he a dumbass of highest order, is not a bad guy, therefore the device has no purpose and shouldn't be used

[RepairmanBob]

the device has no purpose and shouldn't be usedI could say the same about the last four Smallville scripts.

Real Jor-El made a device to control / kill Clark, and sent it to the humans. I am not getting it.

[whiteflag]

The whole "Traveler" storyline is BS and doesn't make any sense.

As for the AI/Jor-El, it doesn't make any sense either.

The writers have NO IDEA of what they are doing, and it shows. They just keep going in the hope that viewers won't notice/care about the plot holes, the contradictions, the OOC moments and the WTH moments and so on.

I gave up trying to make sense of this show many episodes ago. :)

[Timester]

but it was real Jor-el who made the device, not AI jor-el. It's not impossible that Jor-AI knows that Clark, while he a dumbass of highest order, is not a bad guy, therefore the device has no purpose and shouldn't be used

One more reason why the FoS was destroyed. The FoS was the place of Clark's training.

Remember, the Device was sent to Veritas, a group dedicated to make Clark Earth's saviour. That's why the Device shown the FoS, the place that we all know that does control Clark. I admit that the "how come?" is missing, but this was part of the cliffhanger.

[clark595]

Maybe in the series finale Clark rebuilt the FOS for his training!

[Timester]

Maybe in the series finale Clark rebuilt the FOS for his training!

Or the writers can forget the retard training plot. The training only makes sense on the movies, in no other media Clark "trains" on the FoS, he becomes Superman by himself.

[curiosity]

I doubt, since it was Jor-El that send the device in the first place. And the device controlled Clark by the means of the FoS, not controlling Clark directly.

My theory is...Jor El didn't send it.

[RepairmanBob]

The whole "Traveler" storyline is BS and doesn't make any sense.

As for the AI/Jor-El, it doesn't make any sense either.

The writers have NO IDEA of what they are doing, and it shows. They just keep going in the hope that viewers won't notice/care about the plot holes, the contradictions, the OOC moments and the WTH moments and so on.

I gave up trying to make sense of this show many episodes ago. :)I totally agree with this.

[BadToad]

I gave up trying to make sense of this show many episodes ago.

Thats probably a good idea. Because really, SV's "big plots" just don't hang together under any sort of analysis. And I'm not talking about nitpicking either. Just casual observations can blow big giant, sucking holes in these plots.

Its a shame the writers of this show are so very, very limited. They have always been, IMO, the weak link. SV under the guidance of a writers/showrunners who truly loved their main character, and who could think out a plot longterm would've been an incredibly awesome show. Instead, SV is an entertaining show, with a kicka** cast, and a great look.

[The_real_Lex_Luthor]

I think it's time they moved past the whole "training" thing. The whole flippin early part of the series is supposed to be his "training" right? We're supposed to see how Lex and Clark become what they become. And so far, it's really on Lex who's developed. Clark's just stayed in his "I'm hung up over flippin Lana" mode and never quite outgrew it. For Pete's sake Clark, grow up! Truth be told, I almost wished Lex did him in. This version of Clark deserves to die. Like Edward Teague said "You won't even save yourself..." That's NOT the Superman I know. Personally, I thought they should've just made the series center around Lex. Called it "Lexville" or "I, Lex" or "Lex Luthor: The Early Years", or "Lex". He'd have been far more interesting.

[colonyofcells]

Since Clark was too dumb to defeat Lex, it did look like Jor-El sacrificed himself to save Clark from Lex. I don't think many people will miss Jor-El.

I am sure Lex is very brave in going up against Clark. I am sure Lex is willing to sacrifice his own life to save the world from Clark. Both Lex and Clark believe they are in the right so their battles are interesting.

The Lex in the Superman movie is boring bec. that Lex just wants more money. I think Smallville is doing a better job than the Superman movies so Smallville should not be conforming to the Superman movies.