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xrayvision
05-13-2008, 10:13 PM
Please vote for what you thought about Arctic after the episode has aired and discuss it here.

shy175223
05-14-2008, 01:34 AM
darn ya beat me to it.. Oh well...

hey xrayvisionyou forget to mention to the Canadians they can rate the episode but don;t give too much away.

jesslang
05-14-2008, 06:56 AM
i bet it will be a great ep!!! lana come back !.....mabe i hope i saw it on the preview..for this week ...i really hope she comes back...

Jaderoyale
05-14-2008, 07:08 AM
I'm hoping it lives up to the hype.
Considering what we've read about it so far, i personally don't think there will be a cliffhanger as such.

Thrill_Seeker
05-14-2008, 07:50 PM
people will be dissapointed with the season finale, because they've already spoiled themselves. Spoilers do in fact "spoil" the episode, they reall do, they slightly ruin it,
so people shouldnt complain about it when they've gone ahead and spoiled it for themselves,
the only thing that people seem to have disliked is lex's departure,
having not seen it yet, I cant fully voice my opinion

globalbudd3
05-14-2008, 08:02 PM
Hmmm....I got to say that it was not the best finale of Smallville. I give it a 7. It was still entertaining but I was not excited by it for some reason. It doesn't wet your appetite for the next season like the other finales did....but I don't want to spoil it for the rest of you.....

Thrill_Seeker
05-14-2008, 08:09 PM
seems more like a "tying up" everything type of episode,
crossing the t's, dotting the i's

ClarkNLanaTogether4Eva
05-14-2008, 08:24 PM
The worst finale of the series. I learned a valuable lesson tonight: Not to expect high expectations from SV ever again.

Mar-El
05-14-2008, 08:59 PM
It would have been a much better finale if we knew MR was returning next year for a couple episodes as Lex :(

As far as episodes go, it was pretty decent. As far as Smallville finales go, it totally lacked what we've come to expect from them. I'm surprised because I thought Al/Miles would want to go all out for their final episode. Guess not.

Still, I'd agree that 7 is a pretty good rating. It would obviously be higher if it were a regular episode, but considering it's a finale...yeesh. Can't help but feel a little disappointed.

Ilovebeinglost
05-14-2008, 09:01 PM
Most boring season finale ever. There are been more exciting episodes then this one even last week was better.

AngelaV
05-14-2008, 09:08 PM
I stayed away from Spoilers and gave it a TEN. :)

Thrill_Seeker
05-15-2008, 06:29 AM
oh yes this episode was very boring, only little things happened like lex finding out clarks secret and destroying the FOS
oh yes and lana broke up with clark, and kara is trapped in the PZ,
oh yes and chloe is in jail,

not that good,

WHAT THE FRIGGIN HELL, PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!!
I just dont get it how with an episode like arctic, you can find flaws !!!!
I swear, you guys should become critics, all they do is complain.

not the best season finale......
2nd best.....commencement definetly takes the cake

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I stayed away from Spoilers and gave it a TEN. :)

thats right, BECAUSE you stayed away from the spoilers, it was VERY good for you. People who went ahead and spoiled themselves and are now complaining about this episode, or claiming it was the worst season finale ever,
let me tell you something, there is a person responsible for it being bad,
AND THAT IS YOU........
AND ONLY YOU.

you have ruined it for yourself, that is the point of spoilers, you know its going to ruin the episodes, so then DONT read them, I dont care how hard it is, im sick of hearing two-faced COMPLAINTS !!!!

what a fantastic episode !!!! al/gouhg left on an incredibly high note !!!
Good luck to them, I hope they do VERY well in whatever ventures they set out to do,
smallville will miss you, contrary to what some other idiots might think.

Mar-El
05-15-2008, 07:44 AM
Thrill_Seeker, please stop flaming others and calling them idiots just because they don't agree with your worldview where Smallville can do no wrong.

Everyone is allowed their opinion and there are board rules against you hanging out in threads and harassing people for having negative ones. I want to be able to post in a thread without being inadvertently called an idiot :p

No it wasn't me and only me that decided to rate this a 7, as you say. I saw it, I saw that it was not up to par with past season finales. I watched it with a friend who never even looks at spoilers and he thought it was even worse than I did, so that has nothing to do with it really. Other people thought it was even worse than a 7 and they're just as much allowed to say so. People are allowed to express their opinions, positive and negative.

It's great that you like the show to the point where it can do no wrong in your eyes, but don't expect to cajole or browbeat others into feeling the same way.

Jaderoyale
05-15-2008, 07:52 AM
oh yes this episode was very boring, only little things happened like lex finding out clarks secret and destroying the FOS
oh yes and lana broke up with clark, and kara is trapped in the PZ,
oh yes and chloe is in jail,

not that good.

WHAT THE FRIGGIN HELL, PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!!

You know, some people don't go to the spoiler forum, and may come on here to see what the general gist of ratings from Canadian viewers was, with their responses, but no spoilers.
But you've just spoiled a whole lot.
Fair enough i go on the spoiler forum, but just saying.


I just dont get it how with an episode like arctic, you can find flaws !!!!
I swear, you guys should become critics, all they do is complain.

Because, every episode has flaws. Its just some are overlooked.
And, critics do not complain, critics, criticise. They state their opinion.
You don't have to agree with them, but they exist. You don't need to have a go at everyone else for stating their opinion.

Thrill_Seeker
05-15-2008, 09:52 AM
ehh, whatever, I really just cant be bothered to explain what I say anymore, its a lost cause,
like seriously I just cant be bothered to have to explain it to every single one of them,
so someone was offended by me calling them an idiot, well you probably think Im an idiot, too, so whatever, althgouh I really wasnt saying in that way, etc etc etc.

about spoilein, yeah woops I forgot too caption it in spoilers,
Im saying people do is complain, and thats about it, you'd have to have ridiculously high expectations to think arctic wasnt good, but whatever, your opinion, your loss.

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oh bt, when I call people idiots its never focused at one person, its usually generally just people who always complain about smallville and annoy me profoundly

ClarkNLanaTogether4Eva
05-15-2008, 10:08 AM
Thrill_Seeker, please stop flaming others and calling them idiots just because they don't agree with your worldview where Smallville can do no wrong.

Everyone is allowed their opinion and there are board rules against you hanging out in threads and harassing people for having negative ones. I want to be able to post in a thread without being inadvertently called an idiot :p

No it wasn't me and only me that decided to rate this a 7, as you say. I saw it, I saw that it was not up to par with past season finales. I watched it with a friend who never even looks at spoilers and he thought it was even worse than I did, so that has nothing to do with it really. Other people thought it was even worse than a 7 and they're just as much allowed to say so. People are allowed to express their opinions, positive and negative.

It's great that you like the show to the point where it can do no wrong in your eyes, but don't expect to cajole or browbeat others into feeling the same way.
Mar-El, bless your soul for saying everything correctly. I applaude you, and I hope God awards you for being so nice & telling the untarnished & unvarnished truth!

:) Couldn't have said it better myself.

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You know, some people don't go to the spoiler forum, and may come on here to see what the general gist of ratings from Canadian viewers was, with their responses, but no spoilers.
But you've just spoiled a whole lot.
Fair enough i go on the spoiler forum, but just saying.



Because, every episode has flaws. Its just some are overlooked.
And, critics do not complain, critics, criticise. They state their opinion.
You don't have to agree with them, but they exist. You don't need to have a go at everyone else for stating their opinion.
Thank you Jade, as well, for the truth. Very appreciated :)

Luthorism
05-15-2008, 11:12 AM
darn..i wish i didn't read this topic. Now i know what's gonna happen..I couldn't help it!!! Damn..

KalEl45
05-15-2008, 03:27 PM
Wow I see a lot of mixed reviews on this episode. I will watch it tonight and then post a reply to what I think about it. As to all the people above I think everyone has the right to their own opinion. I may not necessarily agree but everyone has the right to one! We just all need to relax and enjoy the ride and hope for a great final season of smallville!

ghscyr
05-15-2008, 04:55 PM
At first I was disappointed with the finale when I saw it yesterday. I felt that it was flat. However, after thinking about it I thought it was pretty well done and gave it a 9. I realized that the final interaction between Clark and Lex was exactly what I have waited for all of these years. While there have been better finales, I liked it overall. My only issue was the way MR final seen left off. Unfortunately for many fans of the show there can be no way to lose one to the shows best characters which will be good enough to satisfy all.

Mar-El
05-15-2008, 06:52 PM
Mar-El, bless your soul for saying everything correctly. I applaude you, and I hope God awards you for being so nice & telling the untarnished & unvarnished truth!

:) Couldn't have said it better myself.

Thank you, ClarkNLanaTogether4Eva. That's very nice and supportive of you to say :)

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On a side note, can't wait to see what the Americans think of this episode. Hope to read some good reviews.

reobeem
05-15-2008, 07:07 PM
Sadely this was an anticlimactic finale. Of all the finales so far this should have been the biggest one but it wasn't. I liked Clark killing Brainiac because it showed what he had to do to stop him. Everything else aside Lois hugging Clark and the Fortress falling on Lex was terrible. Where is Jor-El and Martain Manhunter when you need them. Kara getting trapped in the Phantom Zone seems like a repeat of what happened to Clark and when he got out so did the Phantoms. I'll give it a 9/10. Oh and a side note I hope what happened to Jor-El will be explained in the X-Files sequel.

Mar-El
05-15-2008, 07:10 PM
Oh and a side note I hope what happened to Jor-El will be explained in the X-Files sequel.

I see someone anticipated my "Where is Jor-El" poll in the Canadian viewers thread :p

jacques
05-15-2008, 07:13 PM
I don't care what people say, I liked the finale and I gave it an 8.

clana4everfan2
05-15-2008, 07:15 PM
I gave it a 7/10 since I expected more for a Season Finale and with this being MR's final season/episode of the series after 7 years.. His character should have really gone out with a bang.

ADuarte03
05-15-2008, 07:19 PM
i thought it was really good! i think people need to give smallville a break...i mean come on there wasnt that much wrong with this episode...the cliffhanger at the end was pretty awesome!! i reallllly wish michael rosenbaum would be on next season but im guessin that wont happen...anyway i liked it a lot!!

kavalier
05-15-2008, 07:19 PM
OK, a couple things....

1) It was not the best finale of the entire series but it was the BEST LAST SIX FREAKING MINUTES OF THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS!!! I mean that scene with Lex and Clark was amazing.....AMAZING! So well lit, well shot, well acted. Every line was great. I LOVED the first words out of Lex's mouth..."This is a big step up from the barn." One of the BEST line of the show IMO....absolutely classic.

2) It was the best finale since season 4. It was better than Vessel and it was better than Phantom. Do you REALLY want to argue otherwise? Oh please. There were so many more things to like in this episode than in those.

Overall, a great episode. Only real weakness was that they crammed so much in. But Im used to that with Smallville. Since when has a finale not crammed too much in.

Anyway, hope you guys enjoyed it as much as I did. If not, WHATS WRONG WITH YOU??? ;-)

jordeant1200
05-15-2008, 07:21 PM
9/10 i like a lot like lana breaking up wit clark (i cried) and chloe gettin arrested. kara/brainiac was cool n clark destroying brainiac was cool too. best thing was the cliffhanger it was the best and no one knows where were going from here thats why it rocked for ppl that are real fans of the show and not just here to say it sucks not my fav finale but still great

DreadShamus
05-15-2008, 07:22 PM
ehh, whatever, I really just cant be bothered to explain what I say anymore, its a lost cause,
like seriously I just cant be bothered to have to explain it to every single one of them,
so someone was offended by me calling them an idiot, well you probably think Im an idiot, too, so whatever, althgouh I really wasnt saying in that way, etc etc etc.

about spoilein, yeah woops I forgot too caption it in spoilers,
Im saying people do is complain, and thats about it, you'd have to have ridiculously high expectations to think arctic wasnt good, but whatever, your opinion, your loss.

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oh bt, when I call people idiots its never focused at one person, its usually generally just people who always complain about smallville and annoy me profoundly

You want a flaw? How about Lana being able to come to her senses, adjust to what happened, check out of the hospital, record a message and flee the scene. All before Clark could get there at superspeed. yeah. Huge flaw. Happy now?:D

kavalier
05-15-2008, 07:25 PM
You want a flaw? How about Lana being able to come to her senses, adjust to what happened, check out of the hospital, record a message and flee the scene. All before Clark could get there at superspeed. yeah. Huge flaw. Happy now?:D

I thought the scene was effective for what it was. Anything else would have taken up too much time. The emotion was really well played and it hearkened back to what she did to Whitney so it even had continuity. Shell be back anyway for more scenes so what are you worried about?

spideyfan
05-15-2008, 07:25 PM
9/10
End of Lana was good...
End of Brainiac was needed and good
Chloe getting arrested was good also...
I think this was a but rushed because of the writers strike and thats why the cliffhanger and the quality of the episode may not have felt like a season finale...
weird ending..

STFanatic
05-15-2008, 07:26 PM
I avoided spoilers the best I could as a Moderator, that said, I really expected much more for the final episode from the number two character on the series.

Although at the time this episode was filmed, it was still up in the air about Chloe's character as well, so I expected a little more on that front as well, but what they did do was amazing indeed. (I am glad she is coming back.)

Tatiana
05-15-2008, 07:29 PM
I have to say I read spoilers and it didn't spoil it for me, I still enjoyed it. Except that I knew Kara wasn't Kara lol but I loved her evil acting, and Lex's face that he made when JImmy was talking to him, such indiference almost disgusted with what Jimmy was asking of him. Tom's acting was superb as always, Lana and Clark made me cry sniff :( and Lois was very cool and supportive of Clark too. The final scene gave me the chills...Clark should have gotten the devise away from Lex though but I guess he couldn't touch it like Brainiac couldn't. I disagree with people saying that it lacked of excitment and I really DO want to see the next season, I can't wait till September...awesome episode I gave it a 10

jimmyolsenblues
05-15-2008, 07:29 PM
i loved the ending but i did not like the video by lana saying good bye and there was a lot of episode wasted on jimmy. this was lex's last episode, feature him from beginning to end was my idea.

Tatiana
05-15-2008, 07:32 PM
I heard somewhere that Quest was part of the finale no?

LuckyLois
05-15-2008, 07:32 PM
I'm still trying to process it all. What really happened at the very end? Are they both buried in the FOS? Was it totally gone?

jordeant1200
05-15-2008, 07:32 PM
I heard somewhere that Quest was part of the finale no?

it was kind of a two parter i think but not really

Darth Pipes
05-15-2008, 07:33 PM
I liked the finale. I hated that they rushed the ending but what was there was pretty good and I'm curious to see how it was resolved. Rosenbaum was terrific again...I sincerely hope they can get him to guest star next year so they resolve this once and for all. Also liked how Clark finished off Brianiac.

Clark did just about everything possible to ensure Lex "took control" of him. Lex is still out there and Clark's at home. He sulks that Kara might be right about him not doing enough yet still sits on his ass. Unbelieable.

monel49
05-15-2008, 07:34 PM
Bravo! What an excellent season finale! Lots happening. People have wanted action and movement of the plot. What more could one ask for. Now that we know AM is coming back next season, the Clark and Chloe moments were just excellent and fortunately robbed of the bittersweetness knowledge of her absence next year would have caused. Also loved the Lex and Clark exchanges in the Fortress. It really brought home the seven season arc of their relationship and the realization that Lex's evil has a context--no excuses for him, but he really did desire to have Clark as his friend. Clark doesn't have to take responsibility for Lex's descent in any way--but it is darkly human to see how choices can lead us all away from what we should be. The fact that Lex puts the blame on Clark and then tries to drum up a noble cause to justify his own behavior just shows how evil he has become.

What I found most moving though was that short scene with Clark and Lois when Choloe was in a coma. I like the way that relationship is going. Lois is becoming what she should be.

One last comment: all season I've seen a lot of gripin' and complainin' from people about the way some episodes developed. So much so that one wonders why they bother to watch. Don't you love it when someone writes "I hope this show goes off the air" or "It deserves to be canceled." Go away you people who feel like that. I for one am so glad SV is on. It has given me seven years of great entertainment--made me laugh, cry and wonder. Thanks to cast, writers, producers, everyone involved. I'm really glad, I've got an eighth season to enjoy. Hope there are at least a few people who feel the same.

Bravo Smallville--long may you continue to tell us stories of the Man of Steel.

bizzaroboy9
05-15-2008, 07:35 PM
omfg!! this season finale rocked!! loved the ending a lot!

Chloefan#1
05-15-2008, 07:35 PM
I like it.

double L
05-15-2008, 07:36 PM
It was decent, certainly not Commencement good, but ok. Lex and Lois were great in all their scenes, but they both always are.

Lex should have got a better ending though, the whole show has led to that, and he deserved better.

bizzaroboy9
05-15-2008, 07:36 PM
Bravo! What an excellent season finale! Lots happening. People have wanted action and movement of the plot. What more could one ask for. Now that we know AM is coming back next season, the Clark and Chloe moments were just excellent and fortunately robbed of the bittersweetness knowledge of her absence next year would have caused. Also loved the Lex and Clark exchanges in the Fortress. It really brought home the seven season arc of their relationship and the realization that Lex's evil has a context--no excuses for him, but he really did desire to have Clark as his friend. Clark doesn't have to take responsibility for Lex's descent in any way--but it is darkly human to see how choices can lead us all away from what we should be. The fact that Lex puts the blame on Clark and then tries to drum up a noble cause to justify his own behavior just shows how evil he has become.

What I found most moving though was that short scene with Clark and Lois when Choloe was in a coma. I like the way that relationship is going. Lois is becoming what she should be.




One last comment: all season I've seen a lot of gripin' and complainin' from people about the way some episodes developed. So much so that one wonders why they bother to watch. Don't you love it when someone writes "I hope this show goes off the air" or "It deserves to be canceled." Go away you people who feel like that. I for one am so glad SV is on. It has given me seven years of great entertainment--made me laugh, cry and wonder. Thanks to cast, writers, producers, everyone involved. I'm really glad, I've got an eighth season to enjoy. Hope there are at least a few people who feel the same.

Bravo Smallville--long may you continue to tell us stories of the Man of Steel.

well said! i agree with you:D

wolverine316
05-15-2008, 07:36 PM
I gave it a 9. Which is rare for this so-so season.

treker
05-15-2008, 07:41 PM
You know, I didn't like this finale at all. I know I should have since Clark finally took care of brainiac....but since when is Clark afraid of Lex????

Clark acted like a wimp in the fortress. They're supposed to hate each other now and be bitter enemies; and yet Clark didn't show any of that when he confronted Lex in the fortress.

And I guess I should have seen what they were going to do with Lana and Clark; but the way they handled it was still stupid. But, again it didn't suprise me since they're always doing dumb stuff like that.

I'm trying to think of a season finale that was worse than this one...maybe season 3 but I kind of doubt it.

Jack-El49
05-15-2008, 07:42 PM
I enjoyed it. I knew some of the spoiled plot points in advance but have tried to stay away from discussions on all the points. I gave it a 9 - as I give most all the finales - because they have 20+ episodes to reach a finale and it seems every year they end up cramming it all together in 42 minutes of broadcast time. It is my annual rant.

Brainiac's demise could have happened last week. Kara's disappearance could have happened last week. If Chloe would have been zapped by Brainiac last week, it would have been more dramatic than getting zapped in the first part and recover by the second part.

Having said that, I thought it was a very worthy finale. I have no clue what's going to become of the fortress, Lex, and what the effect was on Clark. Kara's trapped in the PZ - without the FoS, how does CK get her out (or will he?). The Clana romance ended and ended well and the last scene with Lois sizzled, not fizzled.

kavalier
05-15-2008, 07:42 PM
It was decent, certainly not Commencement good, but ok. Lex and Lois were great in all their scenes, but they both always are.

Lex should have got a better ending though, the whole show has led to that, and he deserved better.

Nothing has been "commencement" good since, well, Commencement.

Dont worry about Lex. His story isnt over. Theyll wrap it up in the premiere. Im pretty confident they will carry over some of his footage into the premiere to wrap up his story. The producers themselves have said we havent seen the last of Lex.

STFanatic
05-15-2008, 07:50 PM
I have to figure that the orb thingie must keep Kryptonians from attacking the person holding it.

Otherwise, wouldn't a nice zap of heat vision take it out of Lex's hand?
We know Clark can control it (remember the freezer scene), so he couldn't have been afraid of hurting Lex.

Yup, that must be it. (Yeah, I know I am reaching)

loistickyfingerz
05-15-2008, 07:53 PM
I avoided spoilers and I enjoyed it for the most part. I especially loved the parts where Lex found out about Clark. That was epic stuff I've been hoping to see since day 1.

I liked the Lois-Jimmy and Lois-Clark interactions. I can only hope there are more of those in Season 8.

SteveS
05-15-2008, 07:57 PM
Six (6)

lois ruined what might have been one of the most touching scenes of ClarkMan on the series, but her backdoor invasion of his space and privacy ruined the best scene.

P.S. Jimmy truly is a wimp and wussie combined and Chloe is in another galaxy from him.

double L
05-15-2008, 08:06 PM
lois ruined what might have been one of the most touching scenes of ClarkMan on the series, but her backdoor invasion of his space and privacy ruined the best scene.



Lois made that scene, it was good to say good riddance to Clana though.

MetropolisGirl4SV
05-15-2008, 08:08 PM
Most boring season finale ever. There are been more exciting episodes then this one even last week was better.

You read my mind! Last week was so much better they should of just some how ended it with last week being a 2hour epi and...I wish Lex found out that Kara was actually Braniac. SV is turning out to be a lost cause...

xHerox
05-15-2008, 08:10 PM
"Arctic" was by no means the best season finale. In fact, it is probably the weakest one in recent memory, but I believe that may be more because everyone knows what characters will and, more importantly, will not be back for next season, which I know for a fact influenced my opinion of the episode going in.

I have very mixed opinions about this episode; on one hand, it was nice to see a season finale that didn't seem completely apocalyptic (or at least, for most of the characters) but now that all is said and done I find myself missing the 'epic' quality of season finales past.

Of course, that is not to say that there was nothing 'epic' in this episode - far from it, actually. I liked everything that happened involving Lex, though I think they should have spent more time with Clark and Lex in this episode and devoted less time to to some of the other storylines.

Still, I did like the subtle plotlines that have already begun for next season - beginning, obviously, with the comment Lois gave about Clark joining The Daily Planet. Something else that I thought was really well done was that as Lana's farewell message was concluding, you could see Lois walk in the door behind Clark; I thought this was a truly excellent scene, because it really set up the idea that Lana is Clark's past whereas Lois is Clark's future.

I think the most notable problems I had with the episode are more related to plotlines involving episodes past instead of new ones introduced in this episode. When I initially found out about the whole Veritas storyline, I was very intrigued, and while I believe it was done well, I think there were certain parts of the overall story that could have been tightened to make the season more effective overall.

Still, I gave this episode an '8', mainly because it had some great scenes and really set the stage for next season. The seventh season of Smallville has been quite an interesting journey, and I for one am eager to see the show continue for another year.

CallMeClark
05-15-2008, 08:12 PM
I gave it a 9. It wasn't my favorite finale, but it was okay.

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You read my mind! Last week was so much better they should of just some how ended it with last week being a 2hour epi and...I wish Lex found out that Kara was actually Braniac. SV is turning out to be a lost cause...
*nods* So true... so slow paced...

Yankeefan
05-15-2008, 08:22 PM
Best episode of smallville ever!!!!! 100/10

Joe-Rel
05-15-2008, 08:29 PM
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jimmyolsenblues
05-15-2008, 08:32 PM
everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but how could you give this episode a 1?

WickedJenn
05-15-2008, 08:34 PM
Best episode of smallville ever!!!!! 100/10

Your nick rocks.


Anyhow, I gave it an 8/10.

SnowBird
05-15-2008, 08:45 PM
AWESOME TEN!!! GREAT ACTING, WRITING, DIRECTING, SPECIAL EFFECTS, ETC.

Not even going to take my precious time to defend Smallville from critics. Seven Years and millions of fans does that for me. I'm really looking forward to Season Eight.

Lexgirl33
05-15-2008, 08:57 PM
I gave this a 5. I think it should have been more focused on Lex and Clark. Jimmy wasnt needed and neither was Lois. The writers should not do this to themselves. Cut down on the stories and focus more on a plot that they can actually not shove off in 5 minutes.

Lex's ending was bad but I do like how he finally found out it was Clark and the fact that Lex still thought of Clark as his brother. Lex may be full blown evil but there is still a soft spot somewhere. Its a shame we won't get to see MR's great acting every week. He did an amazing job throughout the series.

BadToad
05-15-2008, 09:10 PM
7.

Some good stuff, but there was a lot of stuff that didn't need to be in this episode, and there should've been way more of Clex in the FOS. And as usual with SV, so much of the story just makes no sense when you try and work it out.

I don't quite understand why this show, particularly in the last 2 seasons, has such a problem with pacing itself.

Tatiana
05-15-2008, 09:19 PM
it was kind of a two parter i think but not really


Oh ok I forgot where I heard that, I still loved it but I did miss Jor-El lol

Lax-ur
05-15-2008, 09:23 PM
The only thing to dislike about the episode is what everyone seems to be saying in most all posting threads. The climax setup at the FOS was ripe with too much important information to process within just a few minutes time. No doubt it should have been either a longer episode, or could have done without about 10 minutes of repetitive commercials. Michael Rosenbaum will be sorely missed. Just as John Glover, Annette O'toole, John Schneider...all had anti-climactic endings to their own character storylines. But, as a Smallville fan from the beginning, I will admit deepdown, it was not one of the best season ending cliffhangers that should have been.

Tatiana
05-15-2008, 09:24 PM
Bravo! What an excellent season finale! Lots happening. People have wanted action and movement of the plot. What more could one ask for. Now that we know AM is coming back next season, the Clark and Chloe moments were just excellent and fortunately robbed of the bittersweetness knowledge of her absence next year would have caused. Also loved the Lex and Clark exchanges in the Fortress. It really brought home the seven season arc of their relationship and the realization that Lex's evil has a context--no excuses for him, but he really did desire to have Clark as his friend. Clark doesn't have to take responsibility for Lex's descent in any way--but it is darkly human to see how choices can lead us all away from what we should be. The fact that Lex puts the blame on Clark and then tries to drum up a noble cause to justify his own behavior just shows how evil he has become.

What I found most moving though was that short scene with Clark and Lois when Choloe was in a coma. I like the way that relationship is going. Lois is becoming what she should be.

One last comment: all season I've seen a lot of gripin' and complainin' from people about the way some episodes developed. So much so that one wonders why they bother to watch. Don't you love it when someone writes "I hope this show goes off the air" or "It deserves to be canceled." Go away you people who feel like that. I for one am so glad SV is on. It has given me seven years of great entertainment--made me laugh, cry and wonder. Thanks to cast, writers, producers, everyone involved. I'm really glad, I've got an eighth season to enjoy. Hope there are at least a few people who feel the same.

Bravo Smallville--long may you continue to tell us stories of the Man of Steel.


I completely agree, Smallville rocks and I always enjoy my thursdays when i watch it hehe, I look forward to season 8 and I do hope we get to see more MR maybe at least in the first episode of season 8. You rock too for watching it so faithfully! :)

MetropolisGirl4SV
05-15-2008, 09:26 PM
I gave this a 5. I think it should have been more focused on Lex and Clark. Jimmy wasnt needed and neither was Lois. The writers should not do this to themselves. Cut down on the stories and focus more on a plot that they can actually not shove off in 5 minutes.

Lex's ending was bad but I do like how he finally found out it was Clark and the fact that Lex still thought of Clark as his brother. Lex may be full blown evil but there is still a soft spot somewhere. Its a shame we won't get to see MR's great acting every week. He did an amazing job throughout the series.

My thoughts exactly Lexgirl33 it should have been about Lex and Clark, it was so rushed and scattered that it didn't even feel like a season finale. MR is my STAR...going to miss him. It just won't be the same:\

warriorrenegade
05-15-2008, 09:29 PM
It was an enjoyable finale. The one thought that came to mind while watching was how it wasn't rushed. In past finale's the big complaint by some has been how the episodes felt rushed and how they tried to cram all the season's happenings into one 40min of TV. But in this instance I didn't get that feeling. It was a well paced and ploted episode. So for that I give it a good grade.

But and there is always a but. Did anyone else feel like we've heard that Lana speech to Clark like 5+ times before. I wanted to fast forward through those moments of couple-dom. Also Jimmy and Chloe's wasnt' all that interesting either. Marriage WTH!

Also glad they didn't have Clark take Lois up on her offer to join the Daily Planet. From what I can remember, Clark hasn't written a story for anything since highschool and that was 3 years ago. So if he just up and accepted the job/internship whatever... It would've been in bad taste.

Now I did enjoy Clark's interactions with Brainac that was really cool to see. Loved how they left it open for his return, cause we all know Brainaic isn't dead. (smoldering ashes)

As for the final showdown with Lex and Clark...that was an epic moment. We saw a little of both characters true feelings toward one another. How Lex views Clarks/Kal-El's place in the world and vice versa. I can only imagine the outcome...Is Clark injured , is Lex dead or dying, Does Clark save him etc... etc... etc... Should make for great TV next season.

So If I were to grade the finale, I'd give it an 7/10

Tony_Bacala
05-15-2008, 09:34 PM
First off, I'm not a Smallville hater, It's the one show I watch consistently every week. Yes, it has the sap fests and stupid filler eps, but almost every series does.

That being said, I thought this was a great wrap up to a season. Not as good as others, but good. That is, until the very end. I was expecting a super powered lex vs clark battle, or SOMETHING, but nope. They didn't even show Lex getting hurt/killed/sucked to another portal, or anything else that will explain why he isn't there next year.

Even the ending was good, their little dialog, just too short. What we've been waiting for what, 7 years now. And it lasted like 4 minutes with no true resolve.

Next season, they will show Clark wake up on an empty ice cap, Lex is "missing", he takes his Daily Planet job, Chloe and Lana will be gone, get smoochy with Lois, and fight a humanoid looking Doomsday and Wonder Woman in slacks (most likely). Then it will probably end, and that would suck.

I would have preferred them do 1 or 2 more eps focusing on just Clark vs Lex, Clark KOs Lex, have Clark go into training, disappear for 5-10 years, come back caped up, find out Lex is alive and powerful, End of series.

Then do "Metropolis" if they want, or go to Movie/DVD format with the continuity.

So, Ill be there next year, hoping. I don't ***** and moan like most, but I don't know how they are gonna wrap up an overall good continuity/show with what they've just done.

MetropolisGirl4SV
05-15-2008, 09:35 PM
Yeah...The Lana speech was just a repeat...may be they just recorded it from previous episodes.:lol:

And the Braniac and Clark interaction was awesome!

WookieeBoy
05-15-2008, 09:37 PM
Yes, I am one of those people who read the spoilers before watching...but I still think it wasn't very good as a season finale. I voted it a 3. Just knowing some simple facts of what happens in an episode does not determine my perception of whether or not the episode is executed well. Otherwise, if the surprises are the only thing that make a good episode, then this show has gotten really weak indeed. There are so many things to consider, plot, dialogue, character development, sfx, etc. This finale lacked mauch emotional depth and drama. I am sorry, the show has dragged on Clana for so long as wel as Lex's always ALMOST finding out Clark's secret, that now that these two plot lines have come to fruition (or completion), it just feels anti-climatic. Kinda like when foreplay goes on for way too long before consummation...it just falls short in the end.

txluvstom
05-15-2008, 09:41 PM
Loved it! My favorite scene hands down was Clark and Brainiac. Come on,people. How many of us actually said the best line in the show OUT LOUD before Clark did? Brainiac:"You can never deliberately take another man's life." Clark:"You're NOT a man." That was awesome!

Autumn
05-15-2008, 09:55 PM
I gave the episode a 5.

Here's what I liked:

1) Chloe and Clark scenes. I liked how Clark stuck up for Chloe against Lois. I felt their chemistry in the scene when she says she'll have to go up against Kara herself was awesome. And I liked the scene when Clark held her hand in the hospital. And of course, mentioning Chloe first over Lana when he defeated Brainiac was nice too! :)

2) Chloe vs Brainiac. I knew Allison Mack and James Marsters would work well together. Great actors always play nicely off of each other. And they were fantastic.

3) I'm interested in what Chloe's new powers are. I seriously think she should become a phoenix.

4) Lex and Clark facing off. Although, I did feel it was a bit anti-climactic.

5) Clana breakup. Thank gosh.

Here's what I didn't like:

1) LOIS LANE: She becomes worse to me with each episode. I honestly hate her now. She really is trying to take Chloe's spot. She doesn't even care that Chloe was fired. She's automatically trying to move up above her, and get Clark Chloe's job. As if she's pushing Chloe out of the way so they can achieve their destiny! I wanted to punch her. And when she walked past Chloe, I felt like she was being smug. Like, ha ha, I'm taking over your spot because it's my "destiny."

2) Lois and Clark hug: I almost did barf. They have no chemistry. And she feels like she's in the way if you ask me. I like Lana better than Lois. I'm so tired of this destiny garbage. They're trying to force Lois and Clark onto us, the audience, a little too hard. It makes me want to run in the opposite direction. And why the heck was Lois crying? For a character who's supposed to hide her feelings, why would she cry over Clark and Lana breaking up? Very contrived. Besides If she was listening, wouldn't she be a little bit curious as to Lana's reasonings behind their breakup? I mean I'd think Lana was cracked, If I heard her say the world needs you more than I do. HUH? I mean I get it, but why would Lois get it.

3) CHIMMY: That horrid proposal. I mean, how many Chloe and Jimmy fans actually exist? The writers must be off their rocker. This show's hard to stomach as it is. But a Chimmy wedding? I wouldn't be able to take it at all anymore. Especially with John Glover and Michael Rosenbaum leaving. Each season gets worse. I don't know if I can take another one.

4) I felt Lex's exit should have been a little less ambiguous. They were obviously planning on getting MR for at least another episode or two. He clearly has no desire to ever return. So, I'm sure they will come up with some reason why Clark escapes Lex getting control of him.

5) I just don't care about Kara. I hope she stays in the PZ.

Overall, I felt the episode was okay. I'm still in a bad mood over Moonlight, so watching Clois and Chimmy is even more unbearable than usual. I mean, a Chimmy wedding? Have they completely lost their mind?

And I really can't stand this destiny crap. The entire series has become one irritating anvil. I think it shouldn't be so much about destiny. Rather, perhaps a time traveler could have seen the future and wrote the outcome on the wall. Rather than everyone's destiny is being forced upon them. It feels contrived. They say they have choices, but they act like they don't. The characters have become puppets controlled by TPTB, and I don't like the way they're moving them around. GAG!

Smallville has put me off Lois and Clark forever in any incarnation (except Margot Kidder). And I've always despised Jimmy Olsen. They really should have Chloe hook up with Oliver Queen. Or they should bring in Richard White. Okay, rant over. But this show really bugs me sometimes. I take that back. It's been bugging me constantly since season six.

And I almost thought I was free when I heard Allison Mack wasn't coming back.

JEWCY
05-15-2008, 09:57 PM
pretty good episode in the best season with the most interesting/intriguing storylines. by far this season had the best storylines leading with veritas.

smallville 7x20 artic=8/10
smallville season 7=10/10

yosemiteangel
05-15-2008, 10:02 PM
OMG! It was fabulous! Loved it! I'm itching to see the premiere! AAAHHHH! :D

jessef13
05-15-2008, 10:05 PM
Though I don't agree with Thrill Seeker implying people are idiots for their opinions being negative, I do have to agree with him on one thing...there are alot of people who endlessly complain, and I'm not talking "oh this episode wasn't that good" complaining, Im talking "Blah blah blah, this show should have ended after season 5 because its been crap since" or "This episode was another piece of crap, they havent done a good episode since season whatever" It's one thing to say why you liked or didn't like an episode, but, stating and restating every episode that you're sick of the series, why do we need to read that? We get it. You're sick of the show, but you watch anyways.

But anyways, I gave it a 10, not because it was a best of the series, but because all things aside, I did enjoy the episode, even knowing quite a bit of what was going to happen ahead of time, because of the acting, the story, and really, when you look at it, it has the fundamentals of what you're used to from a Smallville finale, the seasons highest story escalates, characters are left in jeopardy leaving you lost about whats going to happen with them, and in this one they even had to tie some knots to close some things, and I think they did a pretty good job at it. If I could change one thing, I really felt the Clark/Lex final scene wasn't given enough time. If that scene had been given the final like 8 minutes rather than like the last 4, the episode would have been even better.

On a final note...was it the worst finale? Yeah, I'll give the people who think so that. However...when you look back at past finales, and you say "this one was a 10, that one was a 9, but this one was only a 7 or an 8" well than yeah, duh, it's the worst. However I feel it was a solid 7, which would rank it last, but at least it hung up above par. I mean not every finale can be knocked out of the park amazing. And really they should have started taking Lex's story where it started going the last episodes alot sooner in case they couldnt get him back, but they didn't, and it had a rushed ending.

This finale still leaves me just as excited about the new season as any other, because well, I'm not a "smallville can do no bad" kind of person, but I can call myself a true fan in that I'll stick with the series to its end, even with it likely being season 8, because the bottom line is, whether I liked this episode or didn't, I like the show. I like what they've done, and even if an episode here or there is a downer, overall I like it. All of my favorite shows of all time anywhere from The X-files and Buffy The Vampire Slayer and Angel back to shows like Mork and Mindy that I enjoy, theres episodes I can say "That one wasn't so good", but I mean we're either fans or we're not. We don't need to say harsh things because others don't agree, or anything, but if we're watching it, there's a reason, and if we're posting here, we're leaving our opinions. So be it.

Heroes4Hire
05-15-2008, 10:07 PM
I give this episode an 8.5 0r a nine. I thought it was a really good episode. I mean the fortress getting destroyed that's really epic. I didn't expect that to happen. And Chloe weakening Brainiac was pretty cool. And Clark destroying Brainiac was also very cool. I'm looking forward to Season 8!!!!

Kevin24
05-15-2008, 10:14 PM
loved It!!!! Can't Wait Till Season 8!!!!!

scifigirl
05-15-2008, 10:32 PM
I was expecting to be disappointed because I was so spoiled and I had read the negative comments some of the Canadians had made. However, I really really liked the episode and I gave it a ten.

svtwamedfan05
05-15-2008, 10:54 PM
A respectable 9. For the Clana finally ending, finally Clois scenes in a season finale since there hasn't been any in a finale since Commencement, and the Chimmy proposal.

fly'n special
05-15-2008, 11:04 PM
I liked the finale! It wasn't the best one I've seen but pretty decent!! There are not too many shows on the air that have such awesome cliffhangars year after year. So, I can let it slide. It was still a great finale. I really did like to video Lana gave Clark. I thought it was very sweet. It made me cry. MR was absolutely awesome in this epi. It left it open for him to come back and guest star if that is in the cards. His acting was very good. He gave me the creeps!!! That is good acting! I can't wait for September ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

BWOracle
05-15-2008, 11:11 PM
Although I would consider it an 8 for a Season Finale, as an episode of Smallville I had to vote a 10. Overall, well done and it’s nice to know that it was directed by one of the new TPTB.

To start, the season review was well edited…it really was an excellent season and makes me look forward to Season 8, Season 9, etc. Very mythos heavy. It also reminded me that Lex’s end on SV really began as far back as Fractured or Traveler. He really had an 8 or 9 episode send-off (not just the last few minutes in the Fortress).

The opening with Kara had some terrific special effects (especially the way the engine flamed out when Kara punched a hole in the fuselage and the breakup of the aircraft). LV plays evil really well. My question was why did she need to disguise herself as a stewardess? Who would have stopped her? Maybe Brainiac really enjoys dressing up in little outfits.

Jimmy learns the hard way why you never make a deal with the Devil. MR plays evil even better (I’ll miss it). I like the way the scene opened up with the close-up of the globe on the Arctic Circle.

Lois’ doorbell ringing really nails her character. I do wonder why Lois’ is talking about Clark’s destiny when normally she has such a low opinion of his potential? Maybe their relationship is growing…very gradually.

It looks like the Ace of Clubs is the new hangout spot for Season 8 (replacing the Talon now that Lana’s gone).

You could tell Kara was evil in the scene with Lex…those patent red leather high heels screamed “predator”. Great surprised look on MR’s face when Kara lit the fireplace. It shouldn’t have taken Lex much to figure out that Clark was the Traveler considering Kara is Clark’s cousin. And what is it with Brainiac holding hands with both Clark and Lex in 2 of the last 3 episodes?

It was a little ironic that Chloe defends Clark saying that he’s done everything he can to stop Veritas. Sort of a 180 from previous episodes.

That was a really big briefcase for that little Orb. So how long did it take Lex to call the Department of Domestic Security after Jimmy “laid his cards on the table”?

I loved Brainiac’s reaction after Chloe drained his powers with hers. She weakened him enough to make it possible for Clark to destroy him. He did not look well after that. And the look on Clark’s face in the hospital when he was ready to go after Brainiac…but how did he find him so fast?

Great how Brainiac had to struggle to use his heat vision to melt through the fence. The special effect of the electricity frozen in Clark time was very cool. As usual, the battles in SV don’t last long but it was nicely done. I like Clark’s line about Brainiac not being a man but a machine. I wonder if those little sparks of Brainiac are going to re-form like the dust that turned into a liquid.

I like how they used a close-up on Kara’s blinking eye in the Phantom Zone crystal. I do wonder if she’ll be back next season.

I thought that both TW and KK (plus ED) did a great job on the goodbye scene, especially considering that she was in Thailand at the time. TW’s crying was perfect…just enough but not too much. The scene also played well because we have the departure of Lana just as Lois enters the picture…a new take on the old mythos. I still don’t expect to see KK on Smallville ever again.

The Feds have great timing. Just when Chloe’s ready to answer, we hear “Don’t Move”. The way the ring was in the plastic ball sort of reminded me of the ring from the gumball machine that Clark gave to Lana in Labyrinth. Doesn’t Jimmy wonder why Chloe always goes to Clark for everything? Wouldn’t it be better to find a lawyer? Of course, that gives Clark the heads up to go to the FOS.

The FOS looked amazing in this episode…a lot more glowing than usual. It was really beautifully lit and photographed. I hope they bring it back (maybe Clark will find the crystal from Season 4 to restore it like in Superman II). Loved the “step up from the barn” line. MR’s delivery in the scene was sort of an expression of rage of everything that had happened to Lex in the last 7 seasons (plus what happened to him in the meteor shower). He was taking out all his angst against Clark.

It was obvious to me that the Orb caused a reaction in Clark like kryptonite (he seemed to stumble around a bit). We have to assume he survives but it will be interesting to see how it’s resolved in Season 8 and how they explain Lex’s disappearance. The special effects of the destruction of the FOS were amazing.

I don’t think I’ll be able to accurately judge the scene (or the episode) until I see the season premiere in September. I need to see how it’s resolved.

harryandginnyfanatic
05-15-2008, 11:18 PM
Showing the big three in their element always gets a 10 from me.

Great episode. The Clex scene at the end made it all worth it.

xrayvision
05-15-2008, 11:21 PM
I really thought that this was one of the most boring finales ever. Clark sat around like a moron, cried like a dumbass after that Lana video scene, and did basically nothing. It felt like there was no climax to this episode. I wanted to see more Clark vs. Lex. The Brainiac battle went way too easy. Brainiac shouldn't be vulnerable to Chloe's power or electricity. How could such a complex Kryptonian machine lose so easily? I wanted to know more about Teague, and he was killed in the first few minutes. The Chloe getting arrested was also lame and they did nothing great with Lois.

Horrible. I liked Vessel far more than this episode, and that was one of the worst finales.

PKII
05-15-2008, 11:45 PM
It was so bad. I wish I didn't watch it now. :mad:

GENERALzod777
05-16-2008, 12:21 AM
[Mod Edit] . I love when BRAINIAC said he wouldn't kill a man. as soon as clark said he was a machine BRAINIAC's smile dissapeared.

TheShowstoppa
05-16-2008, 12:23 AM
Okay - Here's the thing: I'm a loyal follower of this show. I have been since I picked up the first two season some years ago for $20. The season finales have been definitely worth the wait and the hype (minus the first season). This one - we had been waiting and hoping for a great confrontation between Lex and Clark. I wanted character development and a better face off. Instead, we get 5 minutes of dialogue and the fortress collapsing upon itself.

I'm sorry to say, but this was the most lack-luster season finale since the first one. For Lex to be "missing" after this episode and not have at least a minor cameo in the first episode of the season would be blasphemy and the writers have their work cut out for them to convince me of a good damn reason he's not there. There's no reason what so ever that tptb can't bring him back early for the premiere and then let him have his time and bring him in for cameos. It's horrible.

The confrontation between Braniac and Clark was somewhat good, but I believe that had it not been Brainiac drained that the fight would have been SOOOO much better. We needed a good fight. We at least got a minor one last season and last season's finale rocked all that have come before or will probably proceede it. Another sad note was that this season started out so strong after some really excellent episodes to have it end this way. I think we deserve a slight mulligan for this episode.

Don't get me wrong though. There were good aspects of it, but for a finale that was rushed, crowded and had too much pointless chatter, it could have been so much better. I guess we'll just have to hope that season 8 (the final season - mind you) will be able to make up for it.

AlwaysRight
05-16-2008, 12:44 AM
I gave it an 8. If it was a regular season episode i would give it a solid 9, but for final episodes i give it a 7, so i just averaged those numbers.

jkoz
05-16-2008, 01:24 AM
Okay - Here's the thing: I'm a loyal follower of this show. I have been since I picked up the first two season some years ago for $20. The season finales have been definitely worth the wait and the hype (minus the first season). This one - we had been waiting and hoping for a great confrontation between Lex and Clark. I wanted character development and a better face off. Instead, we get 5 minutes of dialogue and the fortress collapsing upon itself.

I'm sorry to say, but this was the most lack-luster season finale since the first one. For Lex to be "missing" after this episode and not have at least a minor cameo in the first episode of the season would be blasphemy and the writers have their work cut out for them to convince me of a good damn reason he's not there. There's no reason what so ever that tptb can't bring him back early for the premiere and then let him have his time and bring him in for cameos. It's horrible.

The confrontation between Braniac and Clark was somewhat good, but I believe that had it not been Brainiac drained that the fight would have been SOOOO much better. We needed a good fight. We at least got a minor one last season and last season's finale rocked all that have come before or will probably proceede it. Another sad note was that this season started out so strong after some really excellent episodes to have it end this way. I think we deserve a slight mulligan for this episode.

Don't get me wrong though. There were good aspects of it, but for a finale that was rushed, crowded and had too much pointless chatter, it could have been so much better. I guess we'll just have to hope that season 8 (the final season - mind you) will be able to make up for it.
100% agreed my friend. I did not spoil it for myself and it was still extremely lackluster and unfitting for a season finale. We'll see what happens for S8. They HAVE to have a Lex cameo after the crap they just did tonight. Otherwise... I don't know. Arctic made me lose what little faith I had left in the show. I'm hoping that it might come back slowly over the summer in time for S8.

No.1 fan
05-16-2008, 01:27 AM
I Read the Spoiler however i found the episode fairly bland musta been writen by a woman :P Having Said that :) it also opened up alot of possibilities for season 8 and yes i hope they do get MR back for a few episodes in the next one.

God When's this guy gonna fly ?

karmick
05-16-2008, 01:59 AM
Bravo! What an excellent season finale! Lots happening. People have wanted action and movement of the plot. What more could one ask for. Now that we know AM is coming back next season, the Clark and Chloe moments were just excellent and fortunately robbed of the bittersweetness knowledge of her absence next year would have caused. Also loved the Lex and Clark exchanges in the Fortress. It really brought home the seven season arc of their relationship and the realization that Lex's evil has a context--no excuses for him, but he really did desire to have Clark as his friend. Clark doesn't have to take responsibility for Lex's descent in any way--but it is darkly human to see how choices can lead us all away from what we should be. The fact that Lex puts the blame on Clark and then tries to drum up a noble cause to justify his own behavior just shows how evil he has become.

What I found most moving though was that short scene with Clark and Lois when Choloe was in a coma. I like the way that relationship is going. Lois is becoming what she should be.

One last comment: all season I've seen a lot of gripin' and complainin' from people about the way some episodes developed. So much so that one wonders why they bother to watch. Don't you love it when someone writes "I hope this show goes off the air" or "It deserves to be canceled." Go away you people who feel like that. I for one am so glad SV is on. It has given me seven years of great entertainment--made me laugh, cry and wonder. Thanks to cast, writers, producers, everyone involved. I'm really glad, I've got an eighth season to enjoy. Hope there are at least a few people who feel the same.

Bravo Smallville--long may you continue to tell us stories of the Man of Steel.

Hear! Hear!

Bra_____VO!!!

Smallville sans Spoilers = Yeehaaa!!!

Drumb rollllll.....Season 8 (yeah, that 8 symbol, on his chest, from season 4 was it, and in Quest, also means forever (infinity) + half the Superman S...hmmm...am I creating my own crazy spoiler or just waxing on with the nutty withdrawal from SV only moments after the s7 finale? Aaarrrghhhhh!

Can't wait for October '08!

PS: Lex said "I Love you Clark"...let's face it; the whole show was about Clex!!!
And now they're together forever buried in the ice, entwined in each other's arms, in heat for their lost spark way back during Freak of the Week days.

'nugh said? That's for sure:rolleyes:

iMack
05-16-2008, 03:09 AM
Showstoppa nailed it. 7/10. More good than bad (loved the stuff with Braniac and 'evil' Kara). I agree that it felt rushed. Doesn't touch Covenant.....heck even Exodus left me hanging more than this!

ash91
05-16-2008, 03:53 AM
this has to be one of the worst season finales I've ever seen and to be honest I'm not even excited about when its coming back. Don't really have high hopes for season 8 either.

kraami
05-16-2008, 04:13 AM
wow ....... I gave it a 10. People have been complaining so long for clark to become superman and now the road is paved. He is now at his low point and now only has one direction to move in. Lana is gone. (He no longer has that distraction Great for clark). His best friend is in jail. His unwillingness to accept his destiny has cost him the fortress. He will get it back somehow perhaps using that orb. Some human will have to use it tho prolly. Chloe would be the best bet since she is the only one left that knows his secret that would do it. Not to mention when brainiac attacked chloe and chloe's power went off hurting brainiac ... wow i jumped off the couch didnt see that coming great line by the way("what the hell are you?" brainiac says.) Chloe also taking the risk for clark and getting hurt by it also arrested. all these things are the road paved for clark to become superman. He is down and things look hopeless. that is the cliffhanger. When he gets back he will accept his destiny he will have no other choice. As for lex, there are a number a ways to go with his char. He could go into hiding, something could have happened to him being the price to pay for taking down the fortress somehow trapped him somewhere else, etc.

again tho chimmy .............................its dumb. forced and not working thank god for DDS.

skully
05-16-2008, 05:34 AM
I gave it a solid 8.

Good points - the final 5 minutes (quite assaulting on the senses), LV's acting (I was pleasantly surprised - she was excellent as Fine-in-Kara), the slick production, the neat tying together of many season and series points, ED, AM, AA and JM's professional efforts, the passing of the torch from Lana to Lois, Chloe's power undoing Fine ("what the hell are you?"), the Clark "heading to the DP" thread, and TW and MR doing their normal top class lead role performances.

Points taken off for the lameness of the Clark v Fine fight (could have been so much more, and why did electricity destroy him - he was there being recharged!!!! It was a prime moment for Clark to punch a hole right through Fine and rip out his "heart" to destroy him), the shallowness of the end to Clana (but I guess you can only pack so much story into 41 minutes), a little too much Jimmy (even though AA did a great job), and the rather tame exit for the mighty Rosenbaum. I wonder whether Lex has been buried for good in SV history in the wastelands of the Arctic? After 7 seasons building to Lex discovering Clark's secret, it was over in a blink. Very, very anti-climactic end for such a great star of the series.

This was no Commencement, but a pretty good episode all the same.

Jlvsclrk
05-16-2008, 05:51 AM
A 9 for me. It would have been a 10, but the last 30 seconds were very weak. Seeing the Fortress destroy itself just made me say "good riddance". I would have liked to see a reaction shot by Lex when he realised that his plan to control the alien was more like mutually assured destruction. I still think the orb was designed by Brainiac not Jor-El, but at least it makes sense that rather than just taking out one side of the good-evil confrontation, it takes out both.

I confess that I liked Lana's dear John letter: I thought it was very in character - the framing was VERY reminiscent of the one she did for Whitney back in S2. I don't buy the for the good of the world bit: it's just her trying to make the cut and run more palatable, but it wound up hurting Clark even more.

skully
05-16-2008, 05:55 AM
I look forward to triplet's review.

jesslang
05-16-2008, 06:46 AM
ok well lana ..left ...chole is in jail ..and lex..told clark he loved him like a brother...and is going to control .him.and the fortress is gone..........



well...whats up for next season ..how is clark going to get out of this one.?

LoveHurts38
05-16-2008, 07:20 AM
Gave it a nine..wan't that bad....Did enjoy the Clois hug though.

trh1976
05-16-2008, 07:30 AM
I have been a disciple of Smallville for its entire run. Smallville continues to set a standard for taking the legend of Superman and putting its own spin on it. I love every season, and look forward to next year. That being said, I have to say that this episode sucked. Sorry, but as far as finales go, I was disappointed. This was a very confusing season, and it seams to me that the writers for Smallville arent being held accountable for what they put out there. Let me give an example from Veritas. We were told that Clark was supposed to learn how to fly by Kara teaching him. They spent 10 minutes on it, and then nothing else is mentioned again. In this episode, they spend the final 10 minutes of the episode on what should have been more than one scene. This was Lex opportunity to let go of frustration that has built up for over 7 years of Clark lying. This was an opportunity to give Michael Rosenbaum dialogue for the ages. Instead, we get the constant Chloe/Clark/Lana/Jimmy crap that took nearly the entire episode. I understand that for purposes of continuation, they had to let us know that Lana was free of Brainiacs control. But its just old.
I am just frustrated that they are going to wrap this show up next year(possilby) and overload Smallvilles faithful with a rushed season. It was a let down. I was glad that finally had some good action with Brainiac. But wasnt it convienient that it took Clark really getting angry to find him.
I want to say that I think the writers are great, and that this has been a good, but strange season. I am just left a little empty not seeing what was in my opinion to be the epic finale between two great actors. The actors did great with what they had to work with, its the writers who need to be whipped. Sorry if anyone feels differently. I up for a discussion/debate!!!!!

GuardianAngel
05-16-2008, 07:31 AM
I really enjoyed it till the last 2 minutes, but the scene between Lex and Clark ruined it. Lex wasn't the evil Lex from "Descent", the FOS got destroyed and both Clark and Lex disappeared.

I still can't understand the purpose of that device. How could it control Clark if it destroyed the FOS and seemed to have the same effect as green-K on Clark? What's the link between the two?

Everything seemed very well connected in the last part of this season but the final scene ruined it all. Very disappointed indeed. The spoilers also indicated that Lex's last scene was satisfying... but where? If that was MR's last scene, it was the dumbest scene ever.

Lightning Flash
05-16-2008, 07:39 AM
I liked Arctic. There wasn't anything bad about it, but it wasn't anything especially good. Decent cliffhanger too.

Izzysand
05-16-2008, 07:43 AM
I had stayed away from the spoilers in hope that when I saw the season finale i would be surprised by what was going on. I couldnt', I read some of them and still thought, hey this is going to be great... Wednesday came and again I coudln't resist the temptation of seeing the Canadian forums to see what members there thought of the finale... Most Viewers were dissapointed with it and then I started to think that I wasn't going to like it.. so when i left work to go home, i decide it that it would be best if I lower my expectations and just watch it and make my decision later...

I'm glad i did that because I was able to enjoy the episode a lot more.... This isn't one of the best season finales of Smallville by all means.. but it was still good. I give this episode an 8, which i think is a fair rating.

The episode is more about resolutions to story lines for the characters that are leaving. In this case Lex and Lana.

The Clex story line should have been devoted more time, since this was MR last episode, i though that they would try to spend more time there. Even though, this Lex has served his purpose on this show, it was really anticlimatic, I was thinking, yes its good, but did I really wait 7 years for this? I wanted to see more action on that part, more resolution, at least tell me what the hell is going to happen to Lex, how the hell you are going to explain his absence next season...well you guys get the point...oh and how is he going to forget about Clark? MR if you are reading this, Good Luck in everything you do, as an actor you are one of the greatest, your portrayal of Lex Luthor will always be the best one and i thank you for the 7 wonderful seasons you gave to this show.

Clana: Good ridance to this part of the story, I love KK as an actress, as a person and even as Lana Lang, but her spot on the show should have been over since the middle of season 5 or beggining of 6. I loved Clana at the beggining (i've always been a Chlarker however) but now I just want it to end so badly. I must say I'm happy about this.
Chloe: If i did not know that AM will be coming back next year, i really would have been mad at TPTB for the way they were planing on sending off Chloe in this episode, but since she is coming back, I felt that I am interested in seeing whats going to happen to her.

Without having to type much, I am looking forward to season 8. I love Smallville as a show, but in a lot of ways I do hope that next season is the final season, but if it last beyond that I will be with this show till the end.

STFanatic
05-16-2008, 07:51 AM
I was laughing hard during the last few minutes, I will explain.

As usual, I was watching with my wife, who knew nothing of any spoilers.
After the fortress had imploded and nothing was left of it and no sign of Clark or Lex, my wife turned to me and asked, "So that is it?", "The series is over, they killed Superman & Lex Luthor?", "How is there going to be a Superman now?"
When I finished laughing, I told her it wasn't the last season, and that Clark will be back, but not Lex as Michael Rosenbaum has left the series.

superpal1
05-16-2008, 07:51 AM
I liked the season finale. I gave it a nine. My only complaint was that Lex and Clark did not meet until the last few minutes of the show. I would have liked a longer scene with the two. This may not have been the best season finale of the show, but it accomplished what it needed to do. Kristen wont be back, so it resolved that. Lois hugging Clark showed how there relationship has changed and where it could go. Having Kara be Brainiac was great because it allowed Lex to get to the Fortress and also ended the Brainiac threat for this year. It also has Kara in the Zone, so if she does not return as a regular, then we have reason for her not being around. I know it seemed like a lot to get into one show, but with so many things changing on the show, they had to touch base with everything. I also liked how Brainiac was surprised by Chloe. Not only was it a surprise to me to hear him say that line, but it sets up Chloe and a mystery involving her for next season.

Ginx
05-16-2008, 08:07 AM
8/10

Overall it was a good season finale, not one of the best ever in terms of SV though, I thought it would have been better if we didn't know that Kara was really Brainiac and if they had spent more time with Lex in the arctic. I thought they spent too much time between scenes - too much transition time and not enough action time.

Thought the whole breakup on a cd was a different twist and I really liked the Lois/Clark moment after it was all done but it seemed random that she would just show up randomly....Be interesting to see where they go with everything next season.

Also was watching with a friend and they didn't really get the end either - and they were up on the spoilers a bit - they were like 'that's it...??' lol...I felt kinda bad. He did say that he was glad Lana was gone and that Chloe was still around - he seems to like Chloe and Lois best ;) On the other hand - He was really happy with the SPN season finale lol....

GuardianAngel
05-16-2008, 08:33 AM
I was laughing hard during the last few minutes, I will explain.

As usual, I was watching with my wife, who knew nothing of any spoilers.
After the fortress had imploded and nothing was left of it and no sign of Clark or Lex, my wife turned to me and asked, "So that is it?", "The series is over, they killed Superman & Lex Luthor?", "How is there going to be a Superman now?"
When I finished laughing, I told her it wasn't the last season, and that Clark will be back, but not Lex as Michael Rosenbaum has left the series.

Well, I had read the spoilers but still felt exactly like your wife!

KalEl45
05-16-2008, 09:44 AM
I gave it a 10. It was a really good episode. People earlier said jimmy and Lois did not need to be in it but I disagree about Lois. She looked like she did not believe jimmy and I am sure she will investigate what happens. I don’t know how they are going to save Clark or Lex or anything. MR is supposed to do a guest appearance. Maybe Lois will go and find Clark. She won’t disappear like Luther teams because the FOS is not there anymore. So it was necessary to have her in it especially since Lana will only be in a few episodes. They needed to develop Lois character some.

Red Arrow Kuczynski
05-16-2008, 09:53 AM
It was a great finale, not as good as seasons 5 & 6, but it was still top 3 finale material. However, the way they ended it (with the Fortress collapsing) just doesn't do anything for me (but with the Fortress down, shouldn't Kara be released from the PZ?).

Antoin
05-16-2008, 10:00 AM
poor poor poor. Man that episode just took the piss. I mean i thought there may be an awesome battle between brainiac and clark, but no it was a classic smallville fight, one big punch then concludes with some sort of an explosion. NOt alot really happened everyone was jsut moping about. Ok Chloe got arrested so whatever she'll be all right. Lois is fine, Karas having a lovely holiday in the phantom zone and lex and clark are hugging in the falling down fortress. They havnt really set up anything with that. So whats going to happen? Cus lex isnt going to even be in the premiere of the next season. God dam im pissed off with that bloody episode. And they didnt even bother to put "to be continued" at the end. This episode didn't really get me excited at all, nothing particularly amazing happened apart from Lex finding out Clarks secret.

jqedward
05-16-2008, 10:07 AM
I thought this episode could have been better. There were highlights like when the fortress was crumbling at the end and when Chloe did something to Brainiac, what I don't know, the Dear John letter to Clark.

Jaded Wolf
05-16-2008, 10:53 AM
I gave this one a 8/10. Two things bugged me about the whole episode. One was that Lois tries to recruit Clark to the Daily Planet. This just once again slaps the face of fans who know that Clark chose to be a reported. It also bugs me that with Jonathan and Martha gone, the writers of Smallville are pretty much showing Clark becoming Superman because of the influence of his friends and not his parents. This must be their attempt to truly modernize the tale of Superman because we all know that children don't listen to parents and become heavily influenced by them in today's society. So now the writers are going to make it that Lois gets Clark to become a reporter.

The other thing was the scene in which Lana's CD played. Kudos to the writers for having Lana do the exact same thing to Clark as she did to Whitney back in season 2. This shows how weak and spineless she is. It also means Kristen Kreuk was far gone from the show to make an actual appearance. The thing that bugged me though was Lois appearing out of nowhere and showing so much concern. It looked fake.

Other than that, this episode was decent. I liked the tying up of several loose ends this season caused. I also like the final battle between Clark and Braniac. Clark telling Braniac that he is no man and then destroying him was classic Superman. Laura Vander-whatever did a good job portraying Braniac pretending to be Kara. Her acting ability really showed on this one. The final scene left me a little mad but it was true cliffhanger style. Lex finally knowing who Clark is was awesome and something I actually wish the comic book would follow suit with. Lex's reference to Clark not wearing a mask and the "mild-mannered" comment was a good reference to the comics.

The last thing though about this episode was once again it was too crammed. There was the resolution of Lana, the resolution for Braniac, the conclusion to Veritas, the confrontation with Lex, and Chloe's arrest all packed into this one episode. By the time Clark went to face Lex there was 8 minutes left in this episode. That upset me but I hope there is more screen time in the Season 8 premiere between these two before Michael Rosenbaum makes his final bow.

All in all, not the best season finale but definetely a good one. Next year will be interesting with the departure of the creators and so many of the core characters. Like I have said in other posts, I will probably not watch next season unless there is just nothing else on. This season has disappointed me and I really feel there is nothing left to enjoy about this show.

quietone
05-16-2008, 11:07 AM
8/10 - Better than Vessel and Phantom but not as good as Commencement.

Only nitpicks:
1. The Chimmy proposal - Not sure why that scene was needed.
2. Lois' suggesting to Clark that he apply for a job at the DP - Another randomly thrown in scene.
3. Clex confrontation - Not long enough and Clark should have said more. Also, some of what Lex said rubbed me the wrong way.

Liked:
1. Kara as Brainiac - LV did a great job. I hope she comes back.
2. Clois hug - I liked that scene. I don't care about anvils and foreshadowing. Lois was there when Clark needed someone and knew exactly what he needed. Also, it was a nice callback to Clark being there for Lois in Siren.
3. Clark vs Brainiac.
4. Clex confrontation - About time they faced off. Good performances by TW & MR.
5. Lex playing Jimmy - That was just mean and fun to watch.

I thought it was a good season finale and I'm looking forward to S8.

All about Clark
05-16-2008, 11:21 AM
I too went with an 8. If it wasn't a finally I might have said 9. The Clex at the end was underdone. There was so much Clark could have said and done to defend himself. Why did he act like he could reach Lex with words, he should know by now that wasn't a viable option. And I don't get that Lex just stayed there while beams were falling all over the place. He couldn't help but get hit by one of the beams and probably has brain damage or something. I'm not sure about Clark being kryptonian stuff that fell and not earthly stuff, probably injured but will heal quickly. Probably both buried in the snow and Clark will raise from it.

Girlpower888
05-16-2008, 11:40 AM
I'm pretty disappointed with this episode.

The biggest waste was the confrontation between Lex and Clark in the Fortress. The whole series has been leading up to that scene. It's been a show about the growth and subsequent disintegration of their friendship.Clark revealing his identity and Lex condemning him should have been a much longer, more emotional scene, with maybe with a bit of violence.

Smallville season finales are usually some of the best finales ever shown on TV. The previous finales always had big effect, with spectacular visuals and shocking cliffhangers.

This finale just seemed like most of the rest of this season, with little vision and few exciting moments.

If Kristen Kreuk's movie filming schedule is really what caused the pathetic video breakup scene, there is no excuse. The producers would have known her schedule enough in advance to have written and shot an appropriate breakup/farewell for Clana after 7 years.

I don't know what happend to this show. This was the culmination of the two biggest relationships of the whole show, and they only gave each one scene and didn't do either of them justice.

What a waste. This episode could have been amazing.

But I did like the way that Brainiac died. The light disintegrating his face from the inside was such a call back to how James Marsters' character Spike died in the Buffy the Vampire Slayer season finale. Seeing James' face disintegrate the same way made me laugh out loud.

superhippie2000
05-16-2008, 11:46 AM
i thought it was a good episode but the ending seemed a bit rushed and was hoping to know what exactly is going to controll clark. guess we have to wait for the season opener for that but i was hoping for more time in the fortress and they cut the scene with lex seeing the fortress for the first time. i wish brainiac didnt have to die but who knows maybe he really isnt and we will se him agian. brainiac was aweome. and were was manhunter. he should have stopped lex or something. really wished they added an extra 30 minute to the episode. but didnt want it delaying supernatural cause that had a great finale lol. but still wish smallville was a bit longer. o well only a few months to go before season 8 and before the season 7 dvd comes out. hopefully they will be nice and add in the extra scenes if possible since we are short 2 episodes they have enough room for more extra stuff. anyway good finale and leaves you wanting more but since most of the cast is leaving or has already left it will be weird to see what they do next season.

pizzahead2490
05-16-2008, 12:04 PM
i gave it a 9. i like it and thats important

Jor'el_Ted
05-16-2008, 12:11 PM
Loved it right up untill the final scene. I was expecting it to be alot more epic but i guess we have to wait till season 8 to see what happens to Clark and Lex.

DAMN YOU, SMALLVILLE WRITTERS!!!! Allways gotta tease us with some huge climatic ending! :mad:

MetroGirl06
05-16-2008, 12:38 PM
8/10. The finales are usually the best ones

T-one cyborg
05-16-2008, 12:51 PM
the season finale might kill the show. That finale sucked big time, at this point i don't know where they will go with it. I love comics and i grew up on the charater superman and what they did with this finale-kinda made me wish for the writer strike back. even thought smallville didn't seem like it was going by the comics-it did seem like it was attaching itself to the movie verson of superman. Where Lex never find out that clark is superman. i do have a questions for the writers:

When will clark put on the glasses?

When will he learn how to fly?

When will he take up the report role?

Kryptonian_Rage
05-16-2008, 01:18 PM
I liked the season finale. I gave it a nine. My only complaint was that Lex and Clark did not meet until the last few minutes of the show. I would have liked a longer scene with the two. This may not have been the best season finale of the show, but it accomplished what it needed to do. Kristen wont be back, so it resolved that. Lois hugging Clark showed how there relationship has changed and where it could go. Having Kara be Brainiac was great because it allowed Lex to get to the Fortress and also ended the Brainiac threat for this year. It also has Kara in the Zone, so if she does not return as a regular, then we have reason for her not being around. I know it seemed like a lot to get into one show, but with so many things changing on the show, they had to touch base with everything. I also liked how Brainiac was surprised by Chloe. Not only was it a surprise to me to hear him say that line, but it sets up Chloe and a mystery involving her for next season.

I couldn't have said it better myself!

T-one cyborg
05-16-2008, 01:25 PM
OK, a couple things....

1) It was not the best finale of the entire series but it was the BEST LAST SIX FREAKING MINUTES OF THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS!!! I mean that scene with Lex and Clark was amazing.....AMAZING! So well lit, well shot, well acted. Every line was great. I LOVED the first words out of Lex's mouth..."This is a big step up from the barn." One of the BEST line of the show IMO....absolutely classic.

2) It was the best finale since season 4. It was better than Vessel and it was better than Phantom. Do you REALLY want to argue otherwise? Oh please. There were so many more things to like in this episode than in those.

Overall, a great episode. Only real weakness was that they crammed so much in. But Im used to that with Smallville. Since when has a finale not crammed too much in.

Anyway, hope you guys enjoyed it as much as I did. If not, WHATS WRONG WITH YOU??? ;-)

Smallville is about superman's youth! Before he puts on the red and blue tights and cape.
If Lex, knew from the start or should I say before things started,who Clark was. He would make sure Clark will never be Superman. Let me guess, Season 8, they going to have another Black Thursday, but this time it will be Clark who's going be control by Lex, Tearing everything up. Tell you what I think what writer are doing is trying to sqeeze another season out the network not caring the damage they are doing to the story of Superman.:(:mad:

ttexxan
05-16-2008, 01:37 PM
I have been a loyal fan since the very first episode, but this finale was horrible considering Lex (Micheal) is not going to return. I dont see how the show will cont without him and no wonder season 8 will be the last. I'm not sure how they intend to pick up where this season ended without an appearance from Lex. I hope they don't have Clark waking up in the barn wondering what happen without Lex around!! I think we have all had enough of that!!!!!!!!

What about controlling the Traveler?? Lex had the orb, but again if he doesn't return how is that story line played out?? I have always wanted to see Clark become Superman, but knew from the beginning this might never happen in this series. We have all wanted to see how Lex would find out Clarks secert and battle things out, but this was not expected. 2-5 min dealing what has been taking place for 7 years was not enough time devoted to either character. Micheal has been the best potrayal of Lex HANDS DOWN!!!! Infact, I couldn't believe he chose to leave. This has been his BEST ROLE yet. I have seen other Shows/Roles Micheal has played and Lex is his most successful role. Why Leave----Hopefully not to play in another Jamie Walters show as a Dance Champion!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lastly, I love the chemistry between Chloe and Jimmy but didn't expect so much of a season finale to be devoted to him. There was so much filler with Lois and Jimmy it took time away from what could have been a great ending.

Im hoping Lex will make appearances in Season 8 to atleast finish what was started and left out this season!! If this doesnt happen I feel the show will bomb. Its slated to end in season 8 anyway but what a dissappointment for fans and actors that have been loyal for sooooooo long

morphs
05-16-2008, 01:53 PM
I absolutely loved it. I give it a 10.

SuperEd
05-16-2008, 02:29 PM
***So many posts and so much time to catch up on what's been said and not said***

As far as the return of MR as Lex, I wonder if the demands on him physically will keep him from returning to Smallville. I'm referring to him having to shave his head to play Lex. If he's busy with other ventures that probably require him to have hair, I doubt he would completely shave his head for cameos or limited appearances on Smallville. He even references his hair growing period in his farewell letter. So, maybe, if anything, they'll have a block of a couple episodes in a row where he makes an appearance.
Anyways, I hate to be a party pooper and destroy hopes.:\
I want to see him back, but just trying to be realistic.

Devin216
05-16-2008, 02:36 PM
I think it was pretty good but you would think that that might would end smallville. I don't get when they were in the fortress and then it melts i mean where is lex and Clark?

last man of krypton
05-16-2008, 04:44 PM
A lot of twists and turns. It's been the first time I've ever fallen off my chair in shock, and wanted to rip my hair out when "Kara" revealed herself to Lex (unfortunately, I don't have any hair to rip out:)). Any episode that has a decent line from Lana that recognizes she isn't the centre of the universe is automatically a high-scorer.

kilroy 220
05-16-2008, 05:01 PM
ok as far as a Season Finale this Season Finale could have been better, but it was not the worst either....the scene where the Fortress receeded kind of disappointed me, because Clark didn't finish the training Jor-El had for him...

smallvilleluvr07
05-16-2008, 05:08 PM
I thought it was pretty good. Like kilroy said, not bad, but not great either. It had it's 'I wanna pull out my hair moments', like when Kara revealed her secret to Lex, and the cliffhanger at the very end. I nearly fell off the couch when I realized that the ep was over. It wasn't up to par with past finales such as 'Commencement,' which was a pretty awesome finale IMO. I gave 'Arctic' a nine.

Kirstycol
05-16-2008, 05:21 PM
I gave this episode a 6. It's a cliffhanger... yet Chloe and Lex will not be in next season... sooo why is it a cliffhanger? Are they going to be knocked off in the premier of season 8? I hope they finish the story at least at the beginning of season 8. I'd like to see what lex does with that kind of power. And I've gotta say.... it's such a relief that Lex FINALLY knows for sure that Clark is the traveller and an alien. If he gets a memory wipe I'm gonna be pissed. And it's a relief that Lana is FINALLY out of the picture. I sure hope it stays that way. If they bring her back I'll be so mad. Other than that... it was ok... I guess.

babyluthor
05-16-2008, 05:40 PM
I agree with a lot of you here in that it was pretty good, but not the best of season finales. I thought MR's performance was top notch and as I was watching, I kept thinking how much we are going to miss his presence in season 8.

My favorite scene was with Kara/Brainiac and Chloe, when Chloe tries to get her with the kryptonite.

I liked the Lois/Clark dynamic. I have never been a huge Clois fan, but its growing on my quick and I do think they will have a good chemistry in season 8.

Wow Jimmy proposes to Chloe and then she gets arrested before she can even answer. I wonder how that will pan out.

As for the ending, it was cool to see Lex find out the truth about Clark finally. I'm just glad this is just the season finale and not the series finale. I wouldn't like that to be the end. I'm wondering what will happen in the premiere.

Overall I give it about a 7. Looking forward to next season.

ginnyfan
05-16-2008, 06:17 PM
I gave it a 9 of 10 because if Michael Rosenbaum were returning I would have given it a 10/10 for the last scene alone! But in light of the fact that he's not returning I was so mad that I wanted to give the episode a two!

However there were a lot of things to love.

- Kara as Brainiac was fun. Especially the full circle of the scene with Lex. His angel returns and whispers what Lex's itching ears are longing to hear.
- Lois' investigation into Lex and Jimmy misdirecting Lois was so much fun. Lois urging Clark to apply for the job at the Daily Planet.
- Chloe's Power can be used as a weapon! Very cool, such a surprise, so unexpected.
- Lana's goodbye was very touching.
- Clois hug which mirrored Siren.
- Jimmy's proposal to Chloe

There were a lot of things I liked with the Clark/Lex scene at the very top of the list.

Initially I didn't like the episode because I wanted it to be completely Lex/Clark focused. Part of me wishes that Clark had been running around questioning Teague and searching the mansion for the orb. With Chloe's access to the government satellites and Clark's superpowers they couldn't figure out that Lex was tooling around in the arctic. I think the bottom line is that Brainiac as Kara was right. Clark focused on saving Lana from Brainiac instead of Veritas and stopping Lex from getting the orb. It has bitten him in the butt.

Maybe next season Clark will be controlled by Lex Luthor.

LOL!

STFanatic
05-16-2008, 07:11 PM
OK, just to put it out so every one will see:

KryptonSite News Page (http://www.kryptonsite.com/news.htm)

Super Exclusive Smallville News: Chloe's Staying! (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Ausiello-Scoop-Allison/800039677?)

"I'm told it calls for Mack to appear in all episodes produced next season."

Ok? ;)

superhippie2000
05-16-2008, 07:14 PM
***So many posts and so much time to catch up on what's been said and not said***

As far as the return of MR as Lex, I wonder if the demands on him physically will keep him from returning to Smallville. I'm referring to him having to shave his head to play Lex. If he's busy with other ventures that probably require him to have hair, I doubt he would completely shave his head for cameos or limited appearances on Smallville. He even references his hair growing period in his farewell letter. So, maybe, if anything, they'll have a block of a couple episodes in a row where he makes an appearance.
Anyways, I hate to be a party pooper and destroy hopes.:\
I want to see him back, but just trying to be realistic.
would be a good time for lex to wear his wigs. like in the superman movies. he could show up somewhere where he needs to be in desguise.

----- Added 4 Minutes later -----


OK, just to put it out so every one will see:

KryptonSite News Page (http://www.kryptonsite.com/news.htm)

Super Exclusive Smallville News: Chloe's Staying! (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Ausiello-Scoop-Allison/800039677?)

"I'm told it calls for Mack to appear in all episodes produced next season."

Ok? ;)
yay chloe. does a little dance. woohoo.

Rafael122
05-16-2008, 09:49 PM
I'll give it a 5. It was depressing to watch the finale to be very honest, and as the season went on, it got depressing for me just to watch, because all of the series regulars were being killed off or written off one by one. It was so obvious. It was hard to get into this episode considering 2 of the people in this episode are not gonna be there next season. Only 2 people from the original cast remain on the show. 2!

It will be interesting to see what the direction is for next season, but I can't imagine them going beyond Season 8.

So yeah, I give it a 5...there was nothing wrong with the episode, the cliffhanger was OK, but its hard to ignore what's going on behind the scenes and that made me enjoy the season less.

heroinall1
05-16-2008, 10:39 PM
it could of been better way better. practically all the cliffhangers was in the official cw description so i was expecting them to be in the fortress sooner. cliffhanger was awesome fos end.horray lana is gone. i stopped liking her about season 4. i think that next season they will try a chloe clark relationship. that`s all for now.

Spirit Detective
05-16-2008, 10:45 PM
Laura Vandervoort's performance as Brainiac impersonating Kara was awesome!

She really channeled James Marsters during her performance.

Este
05-16-2008, 11:01 PM
Wow, what a dark ending to a very dark season.
And WOW, Smallville writers, you were unhappy enough with the way Jor-el/Clark relationship was developed to tear the whole place down. I'm impressed. :lol: Maybe, if you choose to rebuild the fortress next season, you could go for a healthier father-son relationship.

(Why am I writing "you"? As if they read this. :rotfl:)

Well, this season was the worst one for me. But I enjoyed each and every scene of "Arctic". So I gave it a 10. It certainly wasn't perfect. Chloe's "You've done everything you can to stop Veritas, and more. You know that," made me chuckle. That storyline wasn't handled well, then. Chloe almost defeating Brainiac? It was... strange. Wherever the writers are heading with this next season, I hope they remember who this show is supposed to be about.
But Rosenbaum's Lex was magnificent. I'll miss him! And the Clana scene moved me (how strange). And, for some odd reason, I'm starting to find EDLois adorable. The final confrontation between Clark and Lex was all good for me. It certainly was short. If they have some footage saved for the S8 premiere, it would be a better send-off for Lex.
But even if they don't, the writers have a clean slate concerning Clark. They can go whatever direction they want. Make him wake up in the Arctic, moments after the wreckage. Or take him to any other place or country, weeks later, with or without his powers and/or memory. (Come on, he can clean stables in Detroit.) Or, if they wish to, they can even have him grow up. He lost everything in this episode : his love, his friend (since he pleaded with Lex as one would plead with a friend) and the last remnants of his home planet. Who knows, the writers might even let him become a man.

Jaderoyale
05-17-2008, 06:46 AM
Not the best season finale imo.
Gave it 9.

P.Luthor
05-17-2008, 07:35 AM
I was disapointed of the episode. But I have to say that I watched it with the thought it was the ending of Smallville itself. I didn't come here before. I never read any spoilers or read anything about the show. I only knew that there were 7 seasons planned. I like the show about Superman's younger years because I like Supermann. And I always like to know what is before or after.
So while watching the final I thought they would come to where Superman actually starts. But Lex Luthor was not the owner of the Daily Planet. Perry White was. I knew that Lana left but I thought it would have been more tragic.
As for Michael Rosenbaum not coming back I just can't imagine Smallville without him! And if he makes only appearances with hair, that`s plausible because in Superman he had hair, it could be a wig or an implant he wanted.

haltoe
05-17-2008, 11:35 AM
Laura Vandervoort's performance as Brainiac impersonating Kara was awesome!

She really channeled James Marsters during her performance.

That's right and it really is a sad waste of Laura's talents that her character is constantly subjected to these "Kara is lost" plots. First she was a lost amnesiac in Detroit, then on Krypton and now in the Phantom Zone. I hope Laura Vandervoort does return for the next season and not as a helpless victim lost somewhere. she should be a super-powered Kryptonian who helps Clark at either rescuing people or kicking butt.

RJLCyberPunk
05-17-2008, 02:21 PM
To be honest I found this season ending extremely disapointing thru and thru and worse of all, the PTB are dissing canon characters over stupid and insipid non canon ones like Chloe!

shadoo
05-17-2008, 05:40 PM
Wasn't the best of the series but sure as heck wasn't the worst, was better than the final episode of season 6.

slayfan
05-17-2008, 07:33 PM
I have been a disciple of Smallville for its entire run. Smallville continues to set a standard for taking the legend of Superman and putting its own spin on it. I love every season, and look forward to next year. That being said, I have to say that this episode sucked. Sorry, but as far as finales go, I was disappointed. This was a very confusing season, and it seams to me that the writers for Smallville arent being held accountable for what they put out there. Let me give an example from Veritas. We were told that Clark was supposed to learn how to fly by Kara teaching him. They spent 10 minutes on it, and then nothing else is mentioned again. In this episode, they spend the final 10 minutes of the episode on what should have been more than one scene. This was Lex opportunity to let go of frustration that has built up for over 7 years of Clark lying. This was an opportunity to give Michael Rosenbaum dialogue for the ages. Instead, we get the constant Chloe/Clark/Lana/Jimmy crap that took nearly the entire episode. I understand that for purposes of continuation, they had to let us know that Lana was free of Brainiacs control. But its just old.
I am just frustrated that they are going to wrap this show up next year(possilby) and overload Smallvilles faithful with a rushed season. It was a let down. I was glad that finally had some good action with Brainiac. But wasnt it convienient that it took Clark really getting angry to find him.
I want to say that I think the writers are great, and that this has been a good, but strange season. I am just left a little empty not seeing what was in my opinion to be the epic finale between two great actors. The actors did great with what they had to work with, its the writers who need to be whipped. Sorry if anyone feels differently. I up for a discussion/debate!!!!!

My feelings exactly.

Joekur
05-17-2008, 09:45 PM
Ok, I'm a sucker for the Lois-Clark 'ship - and I like how they connected both times in this epp. I think they're setting up something for them for Season 8. I know that might be wishful thinking - but still...

notice how they seem to be eliminating everyone who knows who Clark is.... hmmmm....

I, for one, am seeing Season 8 being "the beginning" of the Clark/Lois/Jimmy world everyone knows. I guess we'll see....

As for the climax - yea, I was, "meh" about it... ok, the fortress falls on top of them - if they open next season with Clark just "climbing out of the rubble" I'm going to be very dissappointed... I don't bash the writers - I'm not qualified... but, it DID seem they just said after the GREAT interaction between Lex and Clark, ("I could have helped you become a hero!" LUV it!) - anyway, the interaction ended, Lex does the thing with the magic apple, and then they said, "ok, now what?... I dunno... hmmm.... Oh heck, let's just collapse the fortress on them and we'll figure it out next season...."

But that's the ONLY part I wasn't "thrilled" about - everything else was Great! Solid 9 for me!

archangl73
05-18-2008, 11:19 AM
I gave the episode an 8/10, mostly because it is better than a lot of episodes from this season. Jimmy got too many scenes for an episode that was more about Clark's battles (losing Lana, finding out Kara never came back, facing Lex). The hospital scene with Chloe and Clark was unnecessary and could have been summed up briefly in conversation, rather than burning precious screen time. The episode was also very disjointed since the writers were trying to tie up a lot of lose ends - it could have been done much better.

That said, I was a big fan of Michael Rosenbaum's performance. Lex was very subdued and very dark in this episode. It captured his emotions perfectly. His murder of his father continues to drag on him, he knows it was kind of senseless and he is hoping that some good will come of it. It gives real dimension and context for his darkness, and makes the evil a very human evil. Unlike some people, I liked the final scene. They couldn't have a big battle between the two, because either Clark would easily kick his butt or Lex would have to be "superpowered", which they already did in a previous season. Instead, this scene offered excellent dialogue and a somber end to the road that Lex and Clark have traveled on since season 1. Although we all know Superman will fight Lex, the Smallville Clark and Lex have come to an end with this episode and, even if Rosenbaum never comes back, I actually think it is a fitting climax for the show's Lex.

I also liked Lois coming to console Clark when Lana leaves him - perfect symbolic passing of a torch that really really needed to be passed. This season finale has left the show with some really great opportunities for a good eighth season, but I would not be surprised if they drop the ball in the process. We can only hope for the best.

Chesay
05-18-2008, 11:59 AM
As finales go I was very disappointed in this one. I started with the series because of Michael Rosenbaum's Lex and was hopeful that the last episode he would be in would be stellar. To end it as they did with no indication that the resolution had already been filmed for next season made it very distasteful. I had hoped that Lex would indeed have control of Clark, but for the sake of old friendship (and the fact that Clark had saved his life numerous times) he would relinguish it back to Clark perhaps saying,"When our paths cross again, I won't be so generous" and then fading into the sunset.

I would be delighted to have Lex come back for episodes in Season 8 but can you really expect him to be shaved for a single episode? What a committment he showed to the series to do that on a regular basis when he clearly loved his hair. He deserved more time and attention in the last episode he filmed.

The other big disappointment was the taped goodbye from Lana. If she was truly unable to film the ending I can understand, but if not, what a copout. To have had the series held hostage by their relationship all these years and not decently resolve it is very sad. I genuinely think they could have done better by it than they did and I am not a Lana fan.

I will see if Season 8 will improve given the massive changes that are pending and also because I've stuck with it this long, but I'm not hopeful, especially since my favorite character (Lex, as portrayed by Michael) has left the show.

bonvon
05-18-2008, 12:06 PM
Much of it was ruined for me by the "CW" descript which gave to much away. It was also not as strong as other finals I was looking for more of an ending between Lex and Clark especially since Michael may not be back for any episodes next year. I was glad to see more interaction between Erica and Tom. I hope we see much more of this in season 8, although the rumors are erica is only going to be in for 13 episodes, I hope not. With Michael gone I hope for much more Erica time.

Hopefulsuicide
05-18-2008, 12:13 PM
okay, i'm a big ass moaner, always will be... but i really enjoyed this episode!

up until the fortress started collapsing that is... then i was just left wit ha big confused frown on my face... i just don't at all understand how that means he can control clark... by killing them both? i just dont get it!

didnt enjoy the chimmy, but for once in my life cryed at the clana (although it might have been the clois too)...

i like the idea that there is more to chloe's powers that meets the eyes, clark actually showing authority to kara was nice to see, some wicked use of super hearing

one tiny gripe i had was chloe's line 'i'm a fan of kara's too'... just seemed like friend would have fitted a lot nicer in there and highlighted chloe's continual alienation of the aliens

i found the last scene, as much as i moaned and moaned about lex finding out being a bad thing, was actually exciting... until the fortress started collapsing... i'm still confused :lol:

would have been nice to see lois having more than two scenes...

Este
05-18-2008, 04:42 PM
Unlike some people, I liked the final scene. They couldn't have a big battle between the two, because either Clark would easily kick his butt or Lex would have to be "superpowered", which they already did in a previous season.

I think it was a good thing that the writers didn't make Clark use his powers on Lex. This way, he proved that he was not threat. Lex, of course, saw only what he wanted to see.



Although we all know Superman will fight Lex, the Smallville Clark and Lex have come to an end with this episode and, even if Rosenbaum never comes back, I actually think it is a fitting climax for the show's Lex.

I agree. Lex's journey is truly complete.

txluvstom
05-18-2008, 09:57 PM
I thought it was a great episode. The only thing that was confusing was what exacting happened to Clark. When that force beam or light went through him,it remained me of what happened to Raya in the episode Fallout. Only it didn't look like Clark had any visual wounds. Although it looked obvious that he was either stunned...weakened...or paralysed.

natedog543
05-18-2008, 10:34 PM
this was a great episode. even a great season finale. i also agree this was a high note for everybody to leave on. in ratings and story line. EVERYBODY (meaning way to many people leaving) will be missed! i dont see how anyone could have rated this below a 7. but then that was covered vigorously on page one.

smallvillelogan
05-18-2008, 10:49 PM
OK, so I just barely watched the episode on... you-know-where.

It was a good episode, but my least-favorite finale. I give it a 9. If I was a casual viewer and not a big SV fan, it would probably be rated one or two notches lower. But story-wise, there was a lot to like about it: Lex finding out who Clark is, seeing that Chloe and Lana were freed (because Clark killed Brainiac! Yay!), and the peril of Kara. But I liked all the season finales more- in fact, I give all the other season finales 10s.

One plot hole: How did Clark know where to find BrainIAC? Perhaps he went to a computer and with Chloe-like skills located the power source that had a surge, but I doubt that.

----- Added 2 Minutes later -----


i think that next season they will try a chloe clark relationship. that`s all for now.

Try a Lois-Clark relationship. They've only been moving in that direction the last half-season, starting in Siren when she gives up her relationship with Oliver.

coco#1
05-18-2008, 11:58 PM
The worst finale of the series. I learned a valuable lesson tonight: Not to expect high expectations from SV ever again.

i see you have posted 214 times in these forums so you must be a pretty big fan of smallville. your statement and its contents dont "jive" with someone who is a fan of the show. while maybe not a favorite of yours, as a fan and someone who has been following the plotlines all season, you must at the very least feel.........satisified with what did occure in the episode. are you saying your not going to even bother watching season 8?

KandorKid#37
05-19-2008, 09:21 AM
It was not exactly like I expected. The ending seemed a little anti-climatic. Overall, I guess it's appropriate for this point in Smallville. It is the ending of a chapter in the show and the beginning of a new one. It was no worse than any other finale. I still think Covenant(season 3) was the best finale ever.

socksieboy01
05-19-2008, 03:00 PM
I must say, at first I was stoked and then by the end I was a bit disappointed. I remember the teaser weeks b4 and then they changed it. If you remember the teaser showed Lex in arctic gear walking thru the snow to the fortress and then on the actual day of the episode, he was in a trench coat like he was on his way to a buiness mtg or hanging out in his den back home...i was like wtf?

I guess since it hasn't been confirmed that MR will reprise his role in season 8 I can only specutlate that they had it that way originally (him walking thru the snow) in case he came back. But now it is possible that he may not reprise his roll and that was why they changed it, to write him off- to show how he disappears of the radar for years and may only apper in S8 as a guest or in mention. We know Clark will survive the destruction of the FOS collapsing, but not necessarily LL.

Overall I thought it was good, but not what I was used to for a Season Finale cliff hanger; the ending was rushed, but again probably due to last minute script changes.

I give it a 7 out of 10 only b/c I love the show and will be a fan til the end.

bonvon
05-20-2008, 04:41 AM
So you know it has been confirmed, MR will not be back for season 8 as a regular, unknown if he will be back as a guess at this point.

nhl2k
05-20-2008, 07:52 AM
okay, i'm a big ass moaner, always will be... but i really enjoyed this episode!

up until the fortress started collapsing that is... then i was just left wit ha big confused frown on my face... i just don't at all understand how that means he can control clark... by killing them both? i just dont get it!

Totally agree about the fortress. I think the whole ending with Lex was extremely rushed. I thought this finale was building up to be a great one but it didn't even answer the question of what that "thing" really does, besides it tearing down the fortress. I guess part of my disappointment was that they could have done so much more with something that could "control" Clark, as well as explaining why something like that was on earth in the first place! And like others had mentioned, they could have made this the most exciting dialog of the series, but it was over way too quick. 7 seasons of friendship and betrayal and when Lex finds out Clark's secret, this was all we got? Maybe I was expecting too much but with all the time invested to watch 7 seasons of a show, I probably should expect more.
And the way it ended with Lana was so crappy IMO. Again, 7 years of a show and to say goodbye we get a video? I'm sorry, but there is no way I say goodbye to someone I love that much with a video.
These are the kind of things that to me, can kill a finale. No matter what else happens, when you say goodbye to characters that have such a role in the show in the way they did, it just cheapens everything else.
This was the most disappointment I have ever had for a finale. It was a good episode, but for a finale it didn't have the impact that I thought it should.

Humdinger
05-20-2008, 08:13 AM
Nothing has been "commencement" good since, well, Commencement.

Dont worry about Lex. His story isnt over. Theyll wrap it up in the premiere. Im pretty confident they will carry over some of his footage into the premiere to wrap up his story. The producers themselves have said we havent seen the last of Lex.

They may have some left over scenes that were shot at the end of S7 coming in S8, but I will be very surprised if Michael Rosenbaum will shave his head again for an occasional appearance in S8.

I no longer trust anything the producers of this show say. They're full of it.

Oh yeah, I gave it a 7, which was generous. This finale was disappointing, to say the least.

Bangmango
05-20-2008, 09:41 AM
2/10 Because im not going to sugar coat things. It was bad. 7 years and this is how we're rewarded. Veritas was a bad idea to begin with.

ClarkNLanaTogether4Eva
05-20-2008, 01:07 PM
i see you have posted 214 times in these forums so you must be a pretty big fan of smallville. your statement and its contents dont "jive" with someone who is a fan of the show. while maybe not a favorite of yours, as a fan and someone who has been following the plotlines all season, you must at the very least feel.........satisified with what did occure in the episode. are you saying your not going to even bother watching season 8?
I was very disappointed with the finale when I first watched it. I realized that I was to blame for being spoiled way too much by reading the spoilers. After re-watching the episode 13 times, I realized it was a very good episode, and not a horrible finale by any means. While it did lack a bigger confrontation/speech with Clex, I was pleased with the overall finale.

And from now on, I won't be spoiling myself way too much. I am a hardcore fan and will be a fan till the very end. Season 7 was amongst the best seasons thus far, coupled with Season 4.

I will definitely be watching Season 8 as it is the last season and it will have a continuous storyline as well with Doomsday. And continuous storylines usually end very well! :)

kris7884
05-20-2008, 01:52 PM
Bravo! What an excellent season finale! Lots happening. People have wanted action and movement of the plot. What more could one ask for. Now that we know AM is coming back next season, the Clark and Chloe moments were just excellent and fortunately robbed of the bittersweetness knowledge of her absence next year would have caused. Also loved the Lex and Clark exchanges in the Fortress. It really brought home the seven season arc of their relationship and the realization that Lex's evil has a context--no excuses for him, but he really did desire to have Clark as his friend. Clark doesn't have to take responsibility for Lex's descent in any way--but it is darkly human to see how choices can lead us all away from what we should be. The fact that Lex puts the blame on Clark and then tries to drum up a noble cause to justify his own behavior just shows how evil he has become.

What I found most moving though was that short scene with Clark and Lois when Choloe was in a coma. I like the way that relationship is going. Lois is becoming what she should be.

One last comment: all season I've seen a lot of gripin' and complainin' from people about the way some episodes developed. So much so that one wonders why they bother to watch. Don't you love it when someone writes "I hope this show goes off the air" or "It deserves to be canceled." Go away you people who feel like that. I for one am so glad SV is on. It has given me seven years of great entertainment--made me laugh, cry and wonder. Thanks to cast, writers, producers, everyone involved. I'm really glad, I've got an eighth season to enjoy. Hope there are at least a few people who feel the same.

Bravo Smallville--long may you continue to tell us stories of the Man of Steel.

I agree with you, 100%!!

red_sun1938
05-20-2008, 02:24 PM
Awful! One step above Fracture in the race for worst episode ever in the entire 7 season run.

ginnyfan
05-20-2008, 03:21 PM
Again I must say, worse than "Fierce"?!

Kandorman
05-20-2008, 05:13 PM
I agree that the season finale could have been stronger, but I am willing to cut the producers some slack since I think the loss of two episodes due to the writers' strike probably factored in here. It did seem a little rushed with too much packed into one episode. A little more development time would have helped. I wonder how Michael will survive the fortress collapse (which the mythology demands) yet conveniently vanish from the series (which the casting dictates)? Certainly, there are a plethora of bad guys provided by the Superman mythology to replace Lex and at the same time launch Tom to a fulfillment of his destiny.

I look forward to seeing how Smallville plays out this final step in the development of a superhero. I have enjoyed the ride and hope that the producers execute this final step with the same skill that they have demonstrated in fleshing out such a fantastic, yet beautiful and inspiring, character.

Tacosupes
05-20-2008, 05:56 PM
The only reason it got ANY points is because I liked the opener, The Chloe Brainiac attack,and the brainiac Clark fight,sort of,Imean Braniac went out like a wuss. And the writers have strokes of genius and bouts of EPIC stupidity(see : SLEEPER) dont giveme that crap about they lost two episodes so they had to rush the finale. They produced SLEEPER after the strike. The producers are IDIOTS, you lose two episodes and you keep the one with a Chloe Jimmy DANCE SCENE? a Freaking dance scene? Comeon I was watching that crap thinking "THIS is Smallville? WTF? I'd punch a hole in my TV if it didn't cost me $3,000 . I bring that up because I dont give a DAMN if Chloe gets arrested. There were TOO many JImmy scenes in this damn finale. He sucks and he's a D list actor just because he's the brother of a C list actor.


The Fortress scene should have been WAY longer, Lex should have brought Kryptonite, Clark should have brought lead paint AND the Justice League with him and kick Lex's sorry arse. You want a Cliffhanger ending? Show KARA in the phantom zone at the end. Why bother knocking down the fortress when you KNOW clark will just rebuild it.

This finale was the WORST I've ever seen on this show. DEAD last. Im extremely hard on this crap ending because it was poorly written, poorly acted, and a real bait and
switch because season 7 was the best I've seen on this show since season 3 (it had that great continuity, and dark tone the whole time, just like season 3. ) So I was expecting a finale as good as COVENANT but instead got this piss. Three fat kids on a $100 budget could've shot a better finale on youtube. Fat Clark vs. Fat Lex in a Garage painted white with styrofoam ice blocks. Epic.

Overall,the Season gets a 9.5, but this finale gets a 3.

MetropolisGirl4SV
05-20-2008, 07:07 PM
The only reason it got ANY points is because I liked the opener, The Chloe Brainiac attack,and the brainiac Clark fight,sort of,Imean Braniac went out like a wuss. And the writers have strokes of genius and bouts of EPIC stupidity(see : SLEEPER) dont giveme that crap about they lost two episodes so they had to rush the finale. They produced SLEEPER after the strike. The producers are IDIOTS, you lose two episodes and you keep the one with a Chloe Jimmy DANCE SCENE? a Freaking dance scene? Comeon I was watching that crap thinking "THIS is Smallville? WTF? I'd punch a hole in my TV if it didn't cost me $3,000 . I bring that up because I dont give a DAMN if Chloe gets arrested. There were TOO many JImmy scenes in this damn finale. He sucks and he's a D list actor just because he's the brother of a C list actor.


The Fortress scene should have been WAY longer, Lex should have brought Kryptonite, Clark should have brought lead paint AND the Justice League with him and kick Lex's sorry arse. You want a Cliffhanger ending? Show KARA in the phantom zone at the end. Why bother knocking down the fortress when you KNOW clark will just rebuild it.

This finale was the WORST I've ever seen on this show. DEAD last. Im extremely hard on this crap ending because it was poorly written, poorly acted, and a real bait and
switch because season 7 was the best I've seen on this show since season 3 (it had that great continuity, and dark tone the whole time, just like season 3. ) So I was expecting a finale as good as COVENANT but instead got this piss. Three fat kids on a $100 budget could've shot a better finale on youtube. Fat Clark vs. Fat Lex in a Garage painted white with styrofoam ice blocks. Epic.

Overall,the Season gets a 9.5, but this finale gets a 3.

Your post just cracked me up!
Three fat kids on a $100 budget could've shot a better finale on youtube. Fat Clark vs. Fat Lex in a Garage painted white with styrofoam ice blocks. Epic.:rotfl:


I totally agree with you this season finale was so rushed...and I'm not going to give any one any slack cuz the strike was over and then Sleeper was shot I love Smallville but this season finale pissed me off...seven years of buildup for Lex and Clark in a FOUR MINUTE SCENE! And like I've said before in different posts to much Jimmy...I could care less about Jimmy in a season finale, who cares! The episode should of been more Clark/Lex centered. I believe the acting was not great at the end because they just rushed the scene, plus the dialogue was horrible btw Lex and Clark. I bet TW/MR were thinking this is it... after seven years. I blame the writers, I'm sorry but we deserved more then this and Lex/MR deserved a way better send off! I think its just pitiful! :\

Kandorman
05-20-2008, 07:23 PM
[quote=Tacosupes;3803682]The producers are IDIOTS, you lose two episodes and you keep the one with a Chloe Jimmy DANCE SCENE? a Freaking dance scene? Comeon I was watching that crap thinking "THIS is Smallville? WTF? I'd punch a hole in my TV if it didn't cost me $3,000 .
:rotfl:

Este
05-20-2008, 09:54 PM
Lex/MR deserved a way better send off! I think its just pitiful! :\

Yes. But then, this entire season was very Lex-centric. It almost seems to me now as if the whole S7 was Lex's send off. The character truly completed his journey. I mean, Lex clones than kills his brother, kills his father and goes after Clark, arguably the only true friend he had ever had, the very same day he learns Clark's secret. I'm satisfied with the way they wrapped up Lex's character.
If only they could do the same with Clark's journey next season...

MetropolisGirl4SV
05-21-2008, 12:27 AM
Yes. But then, this entire season was very Lex-centric. It almost seems to me now as if the whole S7 was Lex's send off. The character truly completed his journey. I mean, Lex clones than kills his brother, kills his father and goes after Clark, arguably the only true friend he had ever had, the very same day he learns Clark's secret. I'm satisfied with the way they wrapped up Lex's character.
If only they could do the same with Clark's journey next season...

Yes I do agree it has been Lex-centric with the Whole Veritas storyline, but I don't think all of season seven was a Lex send off. The storylines also focused on Clark some examples are Lara,Kara Gemini,Siren,Apocolypse etc....

The Clex interaction was not at all what I expected. The episode Artic itself was rushed and had too many plot holes.I can't understand how Lex's character truly completed his journey with a mockery of the season finale. Lex/MR should of went out with a Bang! I'm satisfied how Lex prolonged thru the season and the Veritas storyline and the Clex scenes in Descent were great, but when it came down to the season finale everything that they built up to was a waste. I feel we got ghipped, but this is just my opinion. Yeah I hope Clark's journey next season will make up for this mess, I hope he flys, but the no tights no flights rule supposedly is still in effect even with the new producers. Hopefully they can bend the rules and more Clois will me good also.;)

red_sun1938
05-21-2008, 11:44 AM
Again I must say, worse than "Fierce"?!

Fierce had one redeeming quality. Kara in a bikini. That alone makes it an instant classic.

nenaj
05-21-2008, 11:55 AM
greate episode:D

lovinredkclark
05-21-2008, 05:04 PM
I just saw the finale and thought it was good. Not the best season finale and definately not a cliffhanger, but I am interested in seeing how lex/clark come out of this. I do feel that they rushed it and tried to rap things up.
I was upset that Clark didn't get to hold Lana one more time, but I surpose that had to happen sooner or later.

cornfield45000
05-22-2008, 02:57 AM
Even though I am totally addicted to SM and specially to TW ;-), I must admit that I can cleary see the lacks of the story. I would have really liked an end that refers a lot more to the dependency Lex/Clark.
I can really not say whether I liked it or disliked the end that was presented. It leaves me kind of feeling embarrassed.
I stayed awake every Thursday ( I live in Germany) and could not wait to see next episode, but the final leaves me : Gosh !

Kal26
05-22-2008, 12:00 PM
This was probably the most satisfying finale for me. I enjoyed every part of it, and can't wait to see where the series goes next season. :D

bob_hernie
05-22-2008, 12:34 PM
Personally I have been really disappointed by this season, after 5 and 6 which i thought were both great and really brought smallville up to a new level, 7 seemed to lack continuity, story arcs didnt span many episodes and then were wrapped up in an un-fullfilling way, I relaise the writers strike didnt help but they cant blame that for everything. The whole clark lana saga of this season I thought lacked conviction from both of them , when they were around each other they didnt really seem to show any sort of emotion or love at all, and kara seems to have been a poinless addition to the cast as all they did was make her lose her memory for a while which seems to happen a lot in smallville. The Lex and clark showdown was also pretty anti cimatic considering its been the crux of the show for 7 years, I really hope they give that some decent air time in the next episode because it seemed like a stupidly short scene. fair enough they cant get it right all the time, but it just seemed this season like they were stumbling around for story ideas never really finding one that fits, I mean Lex cloning Jullian, I guess I can accept that, but then after the revelation I believe he had one more episode then dead, after all the build up he amounted to nothing. I really hope the new producers can bring Smallville back on track, they have been part of the show for a while so I hope they know what people want to see.

MetropolisGirl4SV
05-22-2008, 07:20 PM
Personally I have been really disappointed by this season, after 5 and 6 which i thought were both great and really brought smallville up to a new level, 7 seemed to lack continuity, story arcs didnt span many episodes and then were wrapped up in an un-fullfilling way, I relaise the writers strike didnt help but they cant blame that for everything. The whole clark lana saga of this season I thought lacked conviction from both of them , when they were around each other they didnt really seem to show any sort of emotion or love at all, and kara seems to have been a poinless addition to the cast as all they did was make her lose her memory for a while which seems to happen a lot in smallville. The Lex and clark showdown was also pretty anti cimatic considering its been the crux of the show for 7 years, I really hope they give that some decent air time in the next episode because it seemed like a stupidly short scene. fair enough they cant get it right all the time, but it just seemed this season like they were stumbling around for story ideas never really finding one that fits, I mean Lex cloning Jullian, I guess I can accept that, but then after the revelation I believe he had one more episode then dead, after all the build up he amounted to nothing. I really hope the new producers can bring Smallville back on track, they have been part of the show for a while so I hope they know what people want to see.

Agreed. That was a nice wrap of how I feel about Season 7 except that Kara was actually very good as Braniac in the Season Finale. I however liked how they linked up the Veritas storyline, even if they just bought it out on the table in season 7. Though there are many plot holes in it...I thought it was interesting in my opinion. But I agree that many of the episodes in season seven lacked some substance...I really don't know what it lacked, but it seemed like there was a missing link for me. Well the season is over and done with lets see what we get next season. :)

Este
05-23-2008, 10:52 AM
But I agree that many of the episodes in season seven lacked some substance...I really don't know what it lacked, but it seemed like there was a missing link for me. Well the season is over and done with lets see what we get next season. :)

I know what a lot of season 7 episodes lacked for me : they lacked heart and passion for doing the show, and they lacked focus on Clark.
As I mentioned in my previous post, the writers focused more on Lex. They had been doing this for more then just this season. As a result, Lex is a magnificent character, a villain with great depth and even some heart. But Clark, it seemed to me as if TPTB had no use for him. They relegated him to the farm, more and more isolated, and less and less active. Sure, he showed up at the last second, making the save, but other than that, the writers were happy keeping him in the background.
Just be there, be quiet and let us tell the stories of all the other exciting characters like Kara, Chloe, Lois, Lex, Lionel, Julian, Jimmy. Clark? Who cares about Clark?
His progression as a man was inexistent this season. Heck, I think in seasons 6 and 7 the writers brought Clark back farther than where he was in season 1 episode 1. He was an outsider than, but he had friends and family. He's more of an outsider now, doesn't know what he wants to do with his life and doesn't even think about it. He's got no family left (Kara never brought back any of the magic and authenticity Jonathan and Martha had). He's got one friend to whom he runs with every single problem.
Gosh! I didn't realize I was so frustrated with this season.
But yeah, I feel that these past seasons, and S7 in particular, have done disservice to Clark's character. He was a bright and caring kid at the beginning of the show. He's a sad and lonely man now, who acts always at the very last moment. It's hard to care for someone like that.
I blame Al/Miles for that, entirely. I hope that next season the new PTB will do better with their lead character, but, honestly, I've got little faith left.
Yet, if they wanted to move forward Clark's journey, I admit that with "Arctic", they've got him at the perfect place in his life.

MetropolisGirl4SV
05-23-2008, 03:27 PM
I know what a lot of season 7 episodes lacked for me : they lacked heart and passion for doing the show, and they lacked focus on Clark.
As I mentioned in my previous post, the writers focused more on Lex. They had been doing this for more then just this season. As a result, Lex is a magnificent character, a villain with great depth and even some heart. But Clark, it seemed to me as if TPTB had no use for him. They relegated him to the farm, more and more isolated, and less and less active. Sure, he showed up at the last second, making the save, but other than that, the writers were happy keeping him in the background.
Just be there, be quiet and let us tell the stories of all the other exciting characters like Kara, Chloe, Lois, Lex, Lionel, Julian, Jimmy. Clark? Who cares about Clark?
His progression as a man was inexistent this season. Heck, I think in seasons 6 and 7 the writers brought Clark back farther than where he was in season 1 episode 1. He was an outsider than, but he had friends and family. He's more of an outsider now, doesn't know what he wants to do with his life and doesn't even think about it. He's got no family left (Kara never brought back any of the magic and authenticity Jonathan and Martha had). He's got one friend to whom he runs with every single problem.
Gosh! I didn't realize I was so frustrated with this season.
But yeah, I feel that these past seasons, and S8 in particular, have done disservice to Clark's character. He was a bright and caring kid at the beginning of the show. He's a sad and lonely man now, who acts always at the very last moment. It's hard to care for someone like that.
I blame Al/Miles for that, entirely. I hope that next season the new PTB will do better with their lead character, but, honestly, I've got little faith left.
Yet, if they wanted to move forward Clark's journey, I admit that with "Arctic", they've got him at the perfect place in his life.


It was such a frustrating season to watch at least even in season six he had some good story lines. But I didn't see anything of substance and I think you hit the bulls eyes when you say they lacked heart and passion for doing the show, and they lacked focus on Clark. I also believe this season was Lex-centric but, Lex is a iconic figure in every way and it's the Clark-Lex dynamic, the yin and the yang, the push and the pull that is just so captivating at least in my opinion ...I'm sure you understand what I mean, so I don't think it was such a bad idea to focus on Lex. The problem is when they made Lex look like such a great villain, they down played the merits of Clark Kent a epic future Super hero! And this is what partially made Clark into a BDA! Plus they hardly showed any Clark and Lex interaction instead Lex was centered around everyone else, while Clark mopped about Lana...what a waste of Talent*sigh*

If TPTB thought Kara bought what Jonathon and Martha Kent bought to the show they are just fooling themselves. I don't even understand why Kara was even cast? She didn't really bring any flavor to the show and she took the focus away from Clark! I personally hated the fact that she could fly and every time she would fly away Clark would just be helpless and I felt so sad for him.:( The TPTB made Clark look so insignificant. Lara was also a waste of time I personally thought...they could of focused on Clark and Martha, but some how Ma Kent just disappeared to DC, with out even a proper goodbye.

"Just be there, be quiet and let us tell the stories of all the other exciting characters like Kara, Chloe, Lois, Lex, Lionel, Julian, Jimmy. Clark? Who cares about Clark?" This is so true...they were rotating stores around other characters that at times I didn't know what the hell I was watching. In my opinion I don't mind them building up on Chloe, Lois and Lex, since these are the young characters of SV that have shaped him, but when they do build up on other characters to the point where I hear that it's called the Chloe Sullivan Show, now this is the beginning of TPTB just killing away Clark. I love Chloe don't get me wrong but it eerks me when I here that ppl won't watch the show if Chloe is gone. Did we forget that this is about Clark Kents journey not Chloe Sullivan. This shows how much they lost focus on Clark in my opinion.

He was a bright and caring kid at the beginning of the show. He's a sad and lonely man now, who acts always at the very last moment. It's hard to care for someone like that.It was a totally 180 for me on how Clark changed from the young school boy spirit to the cynical old man on a farm. And I do hold some hope for season 8, even if all the odds are against him. Its the least I can do for a show that I loved till season 7. :\
I agree with you thanks for filling in the gaps for me and putting things in the light.:)

kalelnica
05-26-2008, 06:30 PM
I have to say I read spoilers and it didn't spoil it for me, I still enjoyed it. Except that I knew Kara wasn't Kara lol but I loved her evil acting, and Lex's face that he made when JImmy was talking to him, such indiference almost disgusted with what Jimmy was asking of him. Tom's acting was superb as always, Lana and Clark made me cry sniff :( and Lois was very cool and supportive of Clark too. The final scene gave me the chills...Clark should have gotten the devise away from Lex though but I guess he couldn't touch it like Brainiac couldn't. I disagree with people saying that it lacked of excitment and I really DO want to see the next season, I can't wait till September...awesome episode I gave it a 10

didnt give it a 10 but i agree that it made me wanna watch next season

dotsie23
05-26-2008, 06:54 PM
[quote=Tacosupes;3803682]The producers are IDIOTS, you lose two episodes and you keep the one with a Chloe Jimmy DANCE SCENE? a Freaking dance scene? Comeon I was watching that crap thinking "THIS is Smallville? WTF? I'd punch a hole in my TV if it didn't cost me $3,000 .
:rotfl:


Have to agree with you on that, IMO that was kind of lame and what kind of TV you have that cost $3,000:eek:

OMEGA SAM87
05-27-2008, 04:00 AM
I agree, the departure of Lex/MR had an awkward feeling to it. It seems that the producers will have little choice, but to have Lex's departure downplayed to a casual footnote in next season's premiere.

I was thinking that they may have done the same thing with Lex like they did for Lana's character, by having her (Kristen K.) film that Dr. John video before she left to film her new movie. Michael may have completed the work necessary for the premiere already, that way they could add him as a "Special Guest Star" next season without having to worry about his availability.

RobX666
05-28-2008, 10:09 AM
I have mixed feelings about this episode. I don't know, it just didn't "feel" like a season finale. The cliffhanger was pretty weak or not very well thought out. At least with the other finale's, they ended with me anxiously waitting for the next season to start so I could find out what happened. It did feel rushed. Like two episodes in one. They should have had the Brainiac storyline conclude and end the show with Clark and Lex meeting in the FOS. A quick stare down and then credits. The finale should have been about Clark and Lex finally confronting eachother. I'm fine with Lex getting the better of Clark and FOS collapsing, but something has to happen with Lex at the end. Maybe he just walks away thinking he's defeated Clark or something. I don't know. They spent seven seasons building up to this point and it was a big letdown IMO. I mean, they knew MR was leaving the show, maybe to appear in a few episodes next season. They should have done something to explain why the main villian all of a sudden is gone. They did it with Chloe. She was arrested to explain why she wouldn't be in the next season if she didn't sign a new contract. Same thing with Lana. I just expected more from what I thought would have been the most important episode of the series.

ClarkNLanaTogether4Eva
05-28-2008, 10:47 AM
I have mixed feelings about this episode. I don't know, it just didn't "feel" like a season finale. The cliffhanger was pretty weak or not very well thought out. At least with the other finale's, they ended with me anxiously waitting for the next season to start so I could find out what happened. It did feel rushed. Like two episodes in one. They should have had the Brainiac storyline conclude and end the show with Clark and Lex meeting in the FOS. A quick stare down and then credits. The finale should have been about Clark and Lex finally confronting eachother. I'm fine with Lex getting the better of Clark and FOS collapsing, but something has to happen with Lex at the end. Maybe he just walks away thinking he's defeated Clark or something. I don't know. They spent seven seasons building up to this point and it was a big letdown IMO. I mean, they knew MR was leaving the show, maybe to appear in a few episodes next season. They should have done something to explain why the main villian all of a sudden is gone. They did it with Chloe. She was arrested to explain why she wouldn't be in the next season if she didn't sign a new contract. Same thing with Lana. I just expected more from what I thought would have been the most important episode of the series.
I agree. It did not feel like a season finale in any way, shape, or form.

I feel that the only way that Smallville can redeem itself is if they make a two hour season premiere, split in two episodes, like they did with Exile/Phoenix in Season 3.

That's the only way I feel they can redeem themselves from Arctic's atrocity. They got to make a two hour season premiere that is very explosive and intense. They have to be smart & realize that S8 is the last, and they better go all out with a bang.

jesslang
05-29-2008, 07:04 AM
yea ..thats what i was thinking they better make Season 8 one hell of a season..:)

JonboyKalel
05-29-2008, 10:56 AM
Clana Forever
I Cant Wait Till Next Season Im Gonna Miss It

Flowergirl123
05-29-2008, 03:14 PM
Well from what I saw. I loved it Tom and Michal (I know I spelled that wrong.) Are good actors. I watch other shows but this one is my favorite because of it's actors. And I'm so glad Lana and Clark broke up! I hope it's for real this time. I like Lana now becasue she finally realzies that she'd just be holding Clark back. And I loved the scene with lex and Clark and the scene with Clark and Lois. But I didn't see the whole thing so I have one question did chloe die? Please tell me no!

RedKRules
05-31-2008, 05:31 PM
Actually .... I really liked Arctic ..... 9 !!! :D

Imzadia
05-31-2008, 10:50 PM
Hi All...
I cast my vote, 8/10, when "Arctic" first aired. I DID Like it, and actually thought it was an amazing episode because of all the 'loose ends' it tied up. However, I probably would've scored it higher if it hadn't left me feeling Confused.

So, please, Anyone, I'm only now returning to this thread because I decided to ask some questions I thought some of you might have some input and help clear some of it up for me.

My confusion is about how it ended. What happened?? I know that Lex placed the pinkish-purplish 'Orb' that's supposed to control Clark into the FOS Control Console, but the console was pulsating and glowing purplish BEFORE Lex placed it there. I don't understand Why the FOS/Jor-El was so Silent (like he's been for several visitors to the FOS this season) especially for such a momentous event as Lex Luthor being present and intending to control/hurt Clark. I saw the energy beam pierce Clark's body and knock him to the floor. I just don't know whether Clark was sort of 'convulsing' when Lex set him upright or was he nodding Yes to Lex telling him he HAD to do what he was doing so that he could protect earth from Clark? I saw the FOS destroyed while it buried Lex and Clark beneath it. What does it all mean? Please, don't abuse me, but I do feel a bit dumb right about now. If anyone else understands, Other than what I saw, what was supposed to be happening?

One more thing...Did anyone on some other thread maybe explain why, if it was made known, there was no "To be continued..." at the end of this season finale?

TheGreenCrystal
06-01-2008, 02:29 AM
I rated it an 8 out of 10. I have been irritated all season long. The object of my frustration is how weak they made clark's character. All season long he has been pining over Lana, he's been very indecisive and he has been upstaged by every Kryptonian who has ever visted earth. It's interesting to me that he has discovered just about every ability that he has except the ability to fly. Yet, Kara came out of the dam flying! Clark had to tell her about her ability of super hearing--but she can already fly. Rediculous. Then there is his incredible self-righteousness and hypocrisy. He showed it with Oliver Queen, Lana and (I'm sorry) Lex. Then he was so weak and indecisive when it came to veritos that it made me sick. He did absolutely nothing to thwart Lex's attempts to uncover the society's secret--which would ultimately end in Lex controlling him. When you add up everything, by the time we got to the finale, I actually felt empathy for Lex's character (even with the evil that he did). Here was a guy that lied every chance that he got, made Lex feel like he was crazy, all the while accusing Lex of evil whenever he got the chance. Which one of us would not grow to hate someone who we called friend who habitually lied to us and accused us of evil at the same time. I was so pissed at clark that I was happy that Lex got to the FOS and hoped that he did control him.

The writers dissappointed me this season. When Lex and Clark had that faceoff after Lionel was killed, I expected fireworks! I figured this is where they make up for all of the Clark Kent wimpiness. Nope! He got even more weak. They have their work cut out for them next season. I'll know whether or not I'll be watching next season by the premier.

Krypton935
06-01-2008, 12:10 PM
I gave it a nine. It was an amazing episode but I thought that it would be better. Usually season finales have a little more hype than this. I'm not saying it didn't have it I am just saying that they usually have more.

smallvillelogan
06-02-2008, 01:53 PM
Hi All...
I cast my vote, 8/10, when "Arctic" first aired. I DID Like it, and actually thought it was an amazing episode because of all the 'loose ends' it tied up. However, I probably would've scored it higher if it hadn't left me feeling Confused.

So, please, Anyone, I'm only now returning to this thread because I decided to ask some questions I thought some of you might have some input and help clear some of it up for me.

My confusion is about how it ended. What happened?? I know that Lex placed the pinkish-purplish 'Orb' that's supposed to control Clark into the FOS Control Console, but the console was pulsating and glowing purplish BEFORE Lex placed it there. I don't understand Why the FOS/Jor-El was so Silent (like he's been for several visitors to the FOS this season) especially for such a momentous event as Lex Luthor being present and intending to control/hurt Clark. I saw the energy beam pierce Clark's body and knock him to the floor. I just don't know whether Clark was sort of 'convulsing' when Lex set him upright or was he nodding Yes to Lex telling him he HAD to do what he was doing so that he could protect earth from Clark? I saw the FOS destroyed while it buried Lex and Clark beneath it. What does it all mean? Please, don't abuse me, but I do feel a bit dumb right about now. If anyone else understands, Other than what I saw, what was supposed to be happening?

One more thing...Did anyone on some other thread maybe explain why, if it was made known, there was no "To be continued..." at the end of this season finale?

There are plenty of theories about this on the "Arctic" discussion board. Point is, no matter how much speculation or proof for one theory may come out, these answers can in no shape or form be revealed until late September of this year. :)

Del_Duio
06-07-2008, 11:38 AM
I give it a solid 7.

I had missed the final 3 episodes of S7 and only got a chance to watch them all last night. Although I thought the 2 leading up to the finale were better overall, I had heard so much bad press about the poor handling or Lex Luthor I was expecting it to be a lot worse than it actually was.

The ending could have been a LOT better, but it wasn't as bad as many say. To me, MR's Lex is / was the best reason to watch the show (not that I don't enjoy the other characters of course). He deserved no less than at least an entire episode with him in it a'la "Zero", as the final confrontation with Clark was one of the most looked-forward to events for many of us since Smallville first started 7 years ago. I wasn't even all that upset at his "I love you like a brother" comments (although a bit out of place), as MR's Lex has never been really overtly super evil so far (except as the evil twin half in "Onyx"). It always seemed to me that he really believed he was trying to defend Earth from hostile alien invaders, and that he was still going to do that although he was truly sorry it was Clark he had to control.

I have high hopes that Lex will be in some of the S8 opener, if for no other reason than that one promo shot of him walking through the arctic in a black parka, which I didn't remember seeing in the actual episode last night.

CallMeClark
06-17-2008, 08:24 AM
Yeah, it is pretty sad when the finale isn't as good as the two episodes leading up to the finale... Very poorly handled. Especially placing Kara in the PZ and assuming to keep her there? Stupid.

Juges8932
06-18-2008, 09:08 PM
It sucked. It was absolutely terrible with the potential they had and what they gave. They should have killed Lana off, but of course they didn't have the balls to do that. And the Lex/Clark scene wouldn't have been bad if that wasn't how they intended to write Lex off, which IMO, is ****ing retarded.

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Oh, and them getting rid of Kara really pisses me off too. The Phantom zone.......LAME.

manofsteel16
06-20-2008, 09:28 PM
This episode was BLAH it was ok up to the final scene. My favorite scene was the interraction between Chloe and Brainiac. People say they don't understand what happened but this is what happened: Being that Chloe had the power to heal and Brainiac could absorb energy, instead of healing and juicing him up, it reversed and drained him of everything.
The Episode was rushed and it was the worse season finale of anything I ever seen. The episode sucked, horribly and I'm a big Smallville Fan. But I guess they're trying to redeem theirselves by bringing in Doomsday and the woman who's gonna replace Lex while he's MIA. But is Doomsday supposed to look like a man? he supposed to look like a horrible creature!!! But I hate it that they are getting rid of Lana aka Kristen Kruek, and Lex aka Micheal Rosebaum. Two major characters and also Laura Vandervoort who plays Kara. I'm going to miss Kara and Lana, I don't care too much for Lex.

freakinsuper
07-10-2008, 04:59 PM
i don,t no what happend to smallville the last few episodes but it was a rubbish finale there was somthing missing it did not keep me on the edge of the seat the storyline had no zest to it like in the previous finale's i don,t know if they have changed the producer or writer but somthing is not right its got me more wondering about whats going on with the people making smallville than the actual finale it self i,m not impressed.The acting was the same the writing of the story was diffrent like it was not the same person thought it up

sora0717
11-02-2008, 10:57 AM
THAT WAS THE WORST EPISODE I EVER SAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Alfred Cough and Miles Milar aren't so intelligent. They should have wrote Smallville before weiting Superman. They were forced to get out Kristin Kreuk of the show because SUPERMAN Loves Lois Lane. Erica Durance is not the good person to play Clark's Love. Lana was the best.They should have at least made of Kristin Kreuk Lois Lane. This WAS REALLY THE WORST EPISODE AND THE WORST FINALE I EVER SAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You know, some people don't go to the spoiler forum, and may come on here to see what the general gist of ratings from Canadian viewers was, with their responses, but no spoilers.
But you've just spoiled a whole lot.
Fair enough i go on the spoiler forum, but just saying.



Because, every episode has flaws. Its just some are overlooked.
And, critics do not complain, critics, criticise. They state their opinion.
You don't have to agree with them, but they exist. You don't need to have a go at everyone else for stating their opinion.

What's your real name Jade?

ChaosMaster16
11-08-2008, 07:09 PM
Hmmm....I got to say that it was not the best finale of Smallville. I give it a 7. It was still entertaining but I was not excited by it for some reason. It doesn't wet your appetite for the next season like the other finales did....but I don't want to spoil it for the rest of you.....

I agree. But you have to think. If it was the last episode EVER of smallville, It would have been a successful one. Yet they did not know for a fact that season 8 would resume (they probably wrote and filmed this in late Febuary maybe middle March). Things were uncertain, and for a season finale, it still left you hanging: What will happen to Lex, and most of all, What the Heck will happen to Clark?

I think it was pretty good Lex disappeared when he did, I think he got WAAAAY to powerful in this season. Its suposed to be what happened BEFORE the Superman movies . . .

However, season 1's finale, along with probably every other one, (all I really remember atm is 1, 5, 6, and 7) left you hanging and you wanted more.

It was pretty good how they ended this season and started season 8. they did not fail.

sora0717
11-13-2008, 04:35 PM
Yeah, i think you're right but i just have one word to say: deception. Now that Lana is gone, Lois is gonna ''FELL IN LOVE'' with Clark and that one, who is alone, WILL FELL IN LOVE WITH LOIS!!!!!! Seriously, i didn't see season 7. I saw parts of the season on youtube. I speak french more than english and i want to see it in french. By the way, i saw images of Lana preagnant with Clark. Her abdomen was big like a basketball. I think she is gonna come back because she is preagnant but clarck will be already in love with LOIS. Thanks to reply.

Twelling_SV_L0VE
12-20-2008, 11:08 AM
Ohmy. The last episode of season 7.
It was awesome. Really! The video of Lana brought me tears in the eyes when I saw Lana and Clark crying. And then Lois came in. When Clois hugged, I knew that they would be together forever in season eight. Unfortunately, i'll have to wait when it comes back on Dutch TV, now I will have to follow the earlier seasons of SV on French TV :lol:

losdrivaren
01-23-2009, 04:42 AM
My english can suck(from sweden,europe)I think that this episode was the worst ending so far:(
because the season endings has been action by a 20/10 scale!
But the new season has start really cool:)
It looks that they has changed the qualité, to get new people.

And the first episode(8 season) was a short story for all 7 season... really cool!

What you think?:)

SGuthrie27
02-08-2009, 02:47 PM
It was pretty spectacular, other than the way Lana got her sendoff. The Clark and Lex finale was amazing, the way Chloe was yanked away from Jimmy right when he proposed led to a nice cliffhanger, and there were a lot of other elements that kept me pretty riveted. After all, it was the last episode (at least for now) with Lex, so you had to know it would be pretty awesome.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

losdrivaren
02-10-2009, 08:27 AM
I red in rumor ville that lex maybe come back...
But an big maybe:D:rotfl:

super_j_man
04-18-2009, 10:05 PM
I just rewatched this ep today for the first time since it premiered.

The first time I watched it I HATED it. Now I don't hate it so much for some reason. I think now I see that Season 8 has gone well (aside from Power & Requiem), this ep was a little easier to sit through. The first time I hated the ending and was so worried that this show was going to go downhill in S8, but it didn't. I still don't like the ending and the fact that Lex found out about Clark. It just goes against the mythology so much. Oh well.

One more thing. I believe this should have been Lana's last episode. I actually liked how they ended her character here, and was disappointed to find out it was fake. Errggh. I'll just pretend that Power and Requiem never happened.

rodski72
06-13-2009, 04:20 PM
well really enjoyed the series finale.have just finished watchhing series 7 on dvd,but will now have to wait till september to buy series 8.one thing a bit dissapointed about was there will be no lex luthor.hope they bring him back in future series

Kneel before Zod
08-27-2009, 02:08 PM
As far as Season Finales go . . . Arctic was a one of the worst.

efc 99
08-27-2009, 02:13 PM
The biggest scene in Smallville, when Lex was in the fortress and they messed it up!

It just felt like when i was watching it had totally made the last seven seasons a waste.

It was OK up until that bit, it was flat

Clark/Lois-fan
11-05-2009, 04:19 AM
Better than last time I watched it. I've only seen it twice.

Nimkong
03-04-2010, 08:00 PM
It was worst than i expected and this season is the worst ever.I only liked the plot.I hated the endings and it ended to fast

BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow
05-30-2010, 02:55 PM
Hmm I seem to post always right after Nimkong for some reason...

But anyways! ----> "Arctic" is in a nutshell not a very good season finale. Season 3's "Covenant" is the worst. I didn't like the teaser. Wasn't Kara, wasn't cool. Hated how they ended Kara's story here. Just a quick shot of the real Kara going to the Phantom Zone. Hated how they ended Lana's...didn't get the character a real sendoff or the character at all to appear in the finale. The tape doesn't count. Hated it. Only good thing in the scene was "Exit Lana, enter Lois"...see for yourselves if you don't remember. Speaking of Lois...offering a job in the Daily Planet. How cool.

"That's never gonna happen." Said season 7 Clark.
"I guess I wanted to be in the middle of the action...I'll be a little closer to home." Said season 8 Clark in Odyssey. An episode after "Arctic".

Ladies and gentlemen...the fundamental difference between season seven and season eight. Between FAIL and WIN. What Clark says in "Odyssey" is so right on so many different levels. It's what he should have been the whole time as Lana said. I actually liked "Power" and "Requiem". They weren't the best of season 8 but "Requiem" actually had a good sendoff to Lex and Lana. I'll talk about Lex later but Lana actually got better as a character. I actually liked her alot in S8. More than any other season combined. She had matured and even though the kryptonite suit was forced it was great because it was Lex's doing.

The thing I liked in "Arctic" was any scene with Brainiac. Any scene, any episode. Even in "Persona" *shudders*. (Bizarro being relatable to Lana over Clark and Lana actually being sorry she had to kill him...Because apparentaly likeable protagonists are not possible for season 7's priorities) Liked how Brainiac was wounded after attacking Chloe and seeking remedy in the power plant. Clark stopped him in the (few) fight scene(s) the episode (season) had. Clark reasoning Brainiac being a machine so that he could "kill" him was great and a good ending for the (Spike <3) Brainiac. Even though we get a terrific new plot with Brainiac in S8.

"Arctic" seems like to be the payoff of seven years watching Smallville. Finally Lex knows. Brainiac doesn't even have to drop Clark's name. He knows. After seven years we finally get to see them face to face. No more facades. Just Clark Kent and Lex Luthor as they really are. In "Descent's" ending we see them face to face ready to challenge one another. In "Arctic" Lex finally knows. They are at the fortress, I absolutely love the last scene to be honest. It's just one little thing that doesn't make it as awesome as it should be...well two (Clark is still season 7 Clark even after defeating Brainiac in a scene that would feel right at home in...well any other season really.) It's something that Lex says. First though Im gonna quote Lex from season 4's "Onyx" after he was exposed to black K.

"Together we could rule this world!"
"Everyone you love will suffer!" and my favourite...
"I am the villain of the story!"

So what do we get?

"I must admit Clark, this is a big step from the barn..." AWESOME!
"You live among us as a mild-mannered farm boy..." COOL!
"You hold the future of the entire planet in your hands...Im here to take it back..." Keep 'em coming!
"...But secretly you are a strange visitor from another planet...plotting our demise..." AWE---waitwhat??

For the record Clark does give a fairly good defensive speech but he should have had more lines and not be so insecure. I know the orb affected him but should only have prevented him to going close contact. oh how I miss "Salvation" Clark...

But what? Brainiac gave Lex a reason to go to the fortress...to be a hero and stop the alien from destroying our planet. Lex responds to Clark that Clark didn't trust him even though Clark never really hurt him. So I guess Lex is petty but still this was supposed to be the last episode...and he turns out to be a misquided hero! I want the Lex from "Onyx"!! I want a Lex that didn't have any other agenda than... you guessed it...take over the world. "Arctic" just ****ed up Lex Luthor. Season seven ****ed up Clark, Lana (gave her some strength in "Wrath" but then took it away) and Lex. They even **** up Lois which is nearly impossible (go read the thread about "Blue") I can just hear Kevin Spacey's Luthor from Superman Returns saying something...What is it?

"WRONG!!"

Gave it a 5. If this would have been the final season or time we see Clark, Lois, Lex, Lana, Kara...well anyone it would have been a 1.

Oh, and if you are wondering why I haven't talked about Chloe or Jimmy...their stuff was fine...Well Jimmy was a pansy working for Lex and feeding Lois lies but he redeemed himself the same episode so no harm done. The proposal was sweet, the finale...bittersweet.

vantheman77
12-27-2010, 10:47 PM
The fight between Clark and Brainiac was the highlight, but the Clark/ Lex confrontation at the Fortress was weak. Lex went out weak while Brainiac was made the superior villain. I was glad that Kara was in the Phantom Zone because she'd have upstage Clark like she has in most of the season, which was the weakest season ever. The end where the Fortress was crumbling taking Clark and Lex with it was AlMiles' final message to the fans as they were leaving after this season.

ck123
01-06-2011, 07:30 AM
Best episode ever^
Ck

CK.
02-12-2011, 02:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifPGqd_Inv8

Simba_Muffy
04-04-2011, 10:52 PM
The biggest scene in Smallville, when Lex was in the fortress and they messed it up!

It just felt like when i was watching it had totally made the last seven seasons a waste.

It was OK up until that bit, it was flat

I agree, but the SF was also boring. SV never does boring SFs. Not even Failsday was boring.