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dan_oc714
05-12-2008, 11:48 AM
Seems like was ruthless in the whole Lex discussion.. you think she would kill him if she could?

Jack-El49
05-12-2008, 11:57 AM
Nah. I think if she could, she would. She was trying to convince Clark to do it.

Sweetie
05-12-2008, 12:24 PM
I think if she had the chance she would.But,is it the best solution?I understand Clark's hesitation.Superman is not a killer.I hope Chloe will understand that one day!!!

Alexander III
05-12-2008, 12:27 PM
Nope, she wants someone else to do the dirty work.

Dor el
05-12-2008, 01:29 PM
I think that she is so concerned for Clark's safety, that she is desperate. She has every reason not to trust Lex and to not want him to be in control over Clark. I don't think Chloe is a cold blooded killer, but I do think she loves Clark and would do anything to save his life.

go_clo
05-12-2008, 01:36 PM
I honestly don't get what the big fuss is about what Chloe said. It is nothing different from what she said in Vessel. She had every right too.

If Lex gains control of Clark, the world as we know it could end, she is just trying to prevent anyone from getting hurt! She knows what Lex is capable of and she is willing to be honest and do the hard thing to keep everyone safe!

What would you prefure? Lex's life over Clarks and everyone elses in the world the the other way around?

BadToad
05-12-2008, 01:40 PM
If Lex gains control of Clark, the world as we know it could end, she is just trying to prevent anyone from getting hurt! She knows what Lex is capable of and she is willing to be honest and do the hard thing to keep everyone safe!

So then, if Chloe feels that way, instead of putting that burden onto Clark. Knowing how he feels about killing, and knowing that to do so in a premeditated manner would likely hurt him deeply. Maybe Chloe should pick up a gun, march her butt over the mansion, and put a bullet between Lex's eyeballs. Problem solved, right?

I'd say the same to Edward Teague, who could easily have taken Lex out of the equation, seeing as how he's so evil, yet decided to shove responsibility for that onto Clark, then try to murder him because he hadn't killed Lex.

ginnyfan
05-12-2008, 02:55 PM
I think it would have to be crystal clear that she had to kill Lex to save Clark. Then she'd do it. But I could see her clubbing Lex over the head to save Clark before killing Lex.

Chloe's not a killer either.

All about Clark
05-12-2008, 03:04 PM
I'd say the same to Edward Teague, who could easily have taken Lex out of the equation, seeing as how he's so evil, yet decided to shove responsibility for that onto Clark, then try to murder him because he hadn't killed Lex.

This is an interesting point, Teague willing to kill the traveler over the destroyer makes no sense. If he felt so threatened by Lex and was willing to perform murder, than murdering Lex would have been the best choice. It seems the whole story would have been better if Clark had to save Lex from Teague, wouldn't it have. It would have made more sense if Teague went after Clark only after failing to kill Lex due to Clark's actions.

Superman's Girl
05-12-2008, 03:25 PM
I was wondering why Teague's henchman didn't just finsih Lex off instead of carving him up. It seemed that he knew Lex had the contents of the safety deposit box because he sent the guy after him. Why not give said henchman instructions to make sure Lex didn't survive the attack. Clark would have still seen the carvings on his chest. I don't know, I just didn't get why he attacked Clark...it made no sense to me.

BadToad
05-12-2008, 03:26 PM
Chloe's not a killer either.

I agree, but then perhaps she should consider the advice she's giving out.


This is an interesting point, Teague willing to kill the traveler over the destroyer makes no sense. If he felt so threatened by Lex and was willing to perform murder, than murdering Lex would have been the best choice. It seems the whole story would have been better if Clark had to save Lex from Teague, wouldn't it have. It would have made more sense if Teague went after Clark only after failing to kill Lex due to Clark's actions.

It certainly would've made a whole lot more sense that way. Now that you've written it out like that, I wish thats how the episode had gone. It would've been a better episode, IMO

yoda1138777
05-12-2008, 04:56 PM
She might as well since he is not coming back next season. But then the legend of Supermans greatest villian would cease to exist, like back to the future without the hover board

biggkoz
05-12-2008, 06:00 PM
Clark is her hit man haha

MetropolisGirl4SV
05-12-2008, 08:38 PM
I honestly don't get what the big fuss is about what Chloe said. It is nothing different from what she said in Vessel. She had every right too.

If Lex gains control of Clark, the world as we know it could end, she is just trying to prevent anyone from getting hurt! She knows what Lex is capable of and she is willing to be honest and do the hard thing to keep everyone safe!

What would you prefure? Lex's life over Clarks and everyone elses in the world the the other way around?

Totally Agree with you and I mentioned this point a while back in another thread. "What would you prefure? Lex's life over Clarks and everyone elses in the world the the other way around?"

I wasn't shocked when she said it...I don't know where all this crazy Paranoia about Chloe becoming evil/the dark side etc... came from. She was looking at the bigger picture of things. Chloe is looking out for the greater good and she wasn't even very comfortable with the idea herself.

And No way is she a Killer she would never murder in cold blood...if that was true she would've done it a long time ago...Please guys you should all know Chloe by now don't insult her by fixating on what she said.:)

BadToad
05-12-2008, 09:28 PM
And No way is she a Killer she would never murder in cold blood

But she's suggesting that its OK if Clark does it?

Thats what people are upset about when it comes to this scene. When Clark asks her point blank if thats what she's suggesting, she doesn't answer the question. Because it was what she was suggesting. Yet I don't see Chloe willing to go out and kill someone in cold blood because of the threat they pose. And if thats the case, then she shouldn't be suggesting that to Clark either.

I understand if people thinking preemptive murder to stop a bigger threat is the way to go. But if you do believe that, then I think you're watching the wrong show about the wrong future hero. Thats not Superman, and it won't ever be Superman.

ginnyfan
05-12-2008, 09:32 PM
I don't think she was exactly suggesting that Clark kill Lex. But the situation is life or death.

Clark was scoffing at the Kawatche cave symbols. The stakes needed to be raised. Those questions need to be raised. Clark better believe that Lex is ready to use the Traveler to conquer the world. Somebody's going to die. Lex's victims maybe.

Sure we could sit around raking Chloe over the coals but... Clark needed to see the life and death urgency of the situation and take action. Chloe was raising questions more than offering solutions. IMO. Which is good. Clark needs to come up with an alternative solution. That was one of my fave things about "Zod."

MetropolisGirl4SV
05-12-2008, 11:02 PM
I don't think she was exactly suggesting that Clark kill Lex. But the situation is life or death.

Clark was scoffing at the Kawatche cave symbols. The stakes needed to be raised. Those questions need to be raised. Clark better believe that Lex is ready to use the Traveler to conquer the world. Somebody's going to die. Lex's victims maybe.

Sure we could sit around raking Chloe over the coals but... Clark needed to see the life and death urgency of the situation and take action. Chloe was raising questions more than offering solutions. IMO. Which is good. Clark needs to come up with an alternative solution. That was one of my fave things about "Zod."

:DRight on!

I also don't think she was suggesting that Clark kill Lex,but if considering the situation is life or death.
Superman would never kill thats what makes him different from all the other iconic Super heros. He always sees the good in mankind which shows the complexity of his nature. All the characters on the show have in some form shaped him to be who he is, but it's up to him on what direction he wants to take. However someone has to bring up such issues as life and death and in this scenario it was Chloe. It's his ethical stand points that he takes now that determine who he is in the future as Superman.

Everyone has their own ethical view points on a variety of things, some will agree with others some will disagree, but the view points that they believe in shouldn't determine whether they should watch the show or not watch the show that makes no sense to me, sorry.

Karafan1
05-12-2008, 11:40 PM
She had the chance to kill Lex in "Progney" but after a little hesatation Clark shoved Lex out of the way of that bullet

SteveS
05-13-2008, 09:38 PM
This is not all that difficult and Chloe is thinking realistically. She is not suggesting that Clark murder Lex, but she is saying that in the context of self-defense for the WORLD as well as Clark that he may terminate Lex's evil deeds permanently. Now, ClarkMan could maybe use x-ray vision to lobotomize Lex and make him a vegetable for life and accomplish the same end without death, but many people would say true death would be more humane than living life as a vegetable. Just shows how sharp and realistic Chloe is compared to her peers.