Lex's pity party, ehh

[All about Clark]

I'm so disgusted with poor abandoned Lex, my ass. Will Lex ever grow past the maturity of a 12 year old? Richest man in the world practically, but all he can talk about is poor me. All Lex can ever see is what he doesn't have, never what he does have. I just want to slap him and say get over it already.

[yosemiteangel]

I'm so disgusted with poor abandoned Lex, my ass. Will Lex ever grow past the maturity of a 12 year old? Richest man in the world practically, but all he can talk about is poor me. All Lex can ever see is what he doesn't have, never what he does have. I just want to slap him and say get over it already.

Nope. :lol: That's part of who Lex Luthor is. He has everything he could ever want or need, but he always wants more.

[AndiGirl]

I kind of felt that way when he said "I was an orphan long before my father died" I had two thoughts...1) You are what....28, come on...an orphan? You're a grown man.
2) I would have more sympathy if you know....you werent the reason your dad was dead to begin with!!

[dru-zod2501]

take from someone who knows issues with your parents don't get resolved in a few weeks, months, or years. Not to mention the sympathy card, he's gonna be milking that line for years to come.

[All about Clark]

take from someone who knows issues with your parents don't get resolved in a few weeks, months, or years. Not to mention the sympathy card, he's gonna be milking that line for years to come.

Well at least we won't have to hear it in S8.

I was unloved by a mother and at least I'm not obsessing daily over it. There's got to be a point in your life where you put it to bed, and try to be a good person despite it. If Lex is 28, then he's had more than enough time to deal.

[LexLuv180]

I didn't see him as that much of a pity party in this episode. God, he mentions one line about his father. As to being an orphan, he meant as a kid, not now at his current age.

[AndiGirl]

I dont think he has the right to say anything about Lionel...seeing as her murdered him in cold blood and all. :( No matter how bad of a father Lionel was to Lex...he certainly never murdered him, did he?

[LexLuv180]

Oh I know Lex insults his father tons...although in this episode, he just said his father abandoned him long before his death. He didn't sit there insulting him. With a father that bad, I know I'd keep insulting him though. Either way I guess it's irrelevant, I just didn't see the same pity party this episode that Lex has done in the past.

[MozartRequiem]

"I dont think he has the right to say anything about Lionel...seeing as her murdered him in cold blood and all. No matter how bad of a father Lionel was to Lex...he certainly never murdered him, did he?"

Technically he did. See the end of "Covenant" again. :(

But that's not the point. The point is, no matter what Lionel did, he has tried to repent. He clearly wanted to be a father to Lex, and made it obvious that he was sorry for his horrible past. In "Fracture", Lionel said "I love you," perhaps the most difficult words for him to ever say, and Lex just glared at him with hate. I can understand, after seeing Lionel's past actions, why Lex would feel that hatred, but to actually kill him in cold blood means becoming exactly what Lex fought against. He could've had a relationship with him in the end, but he let his hate get in the way.

[Alexander III]

Leave my homeboy Alexander Luthor alone. Rule the world, it's your destiny Lex! Yay goooooooooo!!

[Theshadow129x]

People dont understand. Lex is still trying to vindicate for his actions of killing his dad. he isnt completely convinced that he did it for good reasons. He still has demons to battle deep down. i know he did it and it seems like the battle is over from with in but Lex still has a human heart...heck even hitler wanted love.... Lex is just trying to justify what he did even if it means he blocks out the good things his father did for him.

[MozartRequiem]

"People dont understand. Lex is still trying to vindicate for his actions of killing his dad. he isnt completely convinced that he did it for good reasons. He still has demons to battle deep down. i know he did it and it seems like the battle is over from with in but Lex still has a human heart...heck even hitler wanted love.... Lex is just trying to justify what he did even if it means he blocks out the good things his father did for him."

Good point. But I think he's just doing what he always does: twisting his own violent actions to seem just, even when they're horrible.

That is the Luthor way, especially Lex, and it is certainly a pattern that can be seen in many people with "Anti-Social Personality Disorder". It makes everyone else the villain and the person responsible the victim, thereby removing them from any feelings of remorse that could linger deep down inside.

[Theshadow129x]

I think thats very good that you think Lex suffers from APD seeing as its based off of deceit and manipulation. I think he does suffer from it. However he was the victim of a terrible upbringing. There are true scars underneath the surface for Lex and scars dont just go away so easily. Thats why I think this is the most troubling time for Lex. He's between worlds right now. He thinks hes doing the right thing with trying to find the traveler, but he's nto sure if he made the right decision in killing his father. But he also feels like his father deserved it seeing as he always beat Lex down with verbal abuse. Lex is trying to find how where his heart is still and if he has one.

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"he was mean sometimes but he loved us Lex!" its a very daunting thing if you had killed your own father....he doesnt know how to cope with it.

[MozartRequiem]

"I think thats very good that you think Lex suffers from APD seeing as its based off of deceit and manipulation. I think he does suffer from it. However he was the victim of a terrible upbringing. There are true scars underneath the surface for Lex and scars dont just go away so easily. Thats why I think this is the most troubling time for Lex. He's between worlds right now. He thinks hes doing the right thing with trying to find the traveler, but he's nto sure if he made the right decision in killing his father. But he also feels like his father deserved it seeing as he always beat Lex down with verbal abuse. Lex is trying to find how where his heart is still and if he has one."

Great point! I agree, although I don't think Lex is as conflicted as he used to be now. I think he consciously "burned" or repressed his conscience so that now, whenever he feels a tinge of guilt, he pushes it away and focuses on the "big picture".

[Theshadow129x]

It may not be speaking to him when he is so close to getting what he wants, but I think in Apocalypse Lex was still trying to justify his actions as he came to talk to Clark in trying to find away to help Lana. I dont think it was just out of gain for Alien tech that he was there, it was out of pity for the wrong things he had been doing lately. Some people in this world will do something really horrible and cant find ways to deal with the guilt and try to do something small yet helpful to deal with the pain. Heck, look at one tree hill's dan scott. he killed his brother and hes trying to cope with it by doing some kind of good in his life. Lex is still trying to deal with his guilt. It wont be long now before that guilt is gone forever seeing as in the future he wants to wipe the slate clean after he becomes president, but at this point in time he has convinced himself that what he did was for the greater good.

[Vergon6]

It may not be speaking to him when he is so close to getting what he wants, but I think in Apocalypse Lex was still trying to justify his actions as he came to talk to Clark in trying to find away to help Lana. I dont think it was just out of gain for Alien tech that he was there, it was out of pity for the wrong things he had been doing lately. Some people in this world will do something really horrible and cant find ways to deal with the guilt and try to do something small yet helpful to deal with the pain. Heck, look at one tree hill's dan scott. he killed his brother and hes trying to cope with it by doing some kind of good in his life. Lex is still trying to deal with his guilt. It wont be long now before that guilt is gone forever seeing as in the future he wants to wipe the slate clean after he becomes president, but at this point in time he has convinced himself that what he did was for the greater good.
To put a softer side on things, he is sort of like Mr. Burns, he's evil, and when he is trying to be good (at least at this point), he is even more evil ;). Hence framing people like Green Arrow as terrorists that need to be eliminated for the greater good, and justifying Project Ares as means to protect Earth, yet sending wave after wave of his own men against Wes, his prototype, just for his own amusement.

[Theshadow129x]

To put a softer side on things, he is sort of like Mr. Burns, he's evil, and when he is trying to be good (at least at this point), he is even more evil ;). Hence framing people like Green Arrow as terrorists that need to be eliminated for the greater good, and justifying Project Ares as means to protect Earth, yet sending wave after wave of his own men against Wes, his prototype, just for his own amusement.

exactly! lmao:rotfl:

[Vergon6]

exactly! lmao:rotfl:
I half expected him to fund a Luthorcorp facility called the Lil' Lisa Recycling Plant, where he 'sweeps the sea clean' to create all-purpose slurry ;)

[Dor el]

I'm so disgusted with poor abandoned Lex, my ass. Will Lex ever grow past the maturity of a 12 year old? Richest man in the world practically, but all he can talk about is poor me. All Lex can ever see is what he doesn't have, never what he does have. I just want to slap him and say get over it already.

I'll hold him and you knock the stuffing right out of him. Deal?

[Kevin24]

Lex does try to make everyone feel sorry for him.

[Dor el]

Sorry, but I'm not buying it. I cannot see how anyone could justify the things Lex has done. Not even Lex himself. Rationally, there is no acceptable justification or explanation. Sure, Lex was the victim of a wicked bad father. Many people were who have not grown up to become evil incarnate. Yeah, there are those who have, but I have the think that the majority of such victims have not. As long as Lex is able to get away with committing murder, then he will interpret that to mean that he has done nothing wrong. Lex needs to get a dose of payback. Even if that only serve to give him purpose to his evil ways. At least then he will have somewhat of an excuse for being what he has become.

[All about Clark]

I'll hold him and you knock the stuffing right out of him. Deal?

Deal. Let me at him.