View Full Version : Smallville = BORING
Clana4Life
05-08-2008, 08:44 PM
I hate the direction Smallville has taken. This last few episodes have been so boring and so off track. They've changed 7 years of history. Veritas....please. Lionel protecting Clark's secret for all of these years. What the heck? This is ridiculous. The castle held a secret all of these years and Lionel never figured it out, but Lex did in one episode. Lana is still in a comatose state. I miss her spice. I miss Clana spice. It's way better than what we've been seeing lately. If this is the route they are taking now, I'm concerned as to what Season 8 will bring. How are the ratings these days? Quest was boring. Here's hoping Arctic won't be a snoozer.
Minela
05-08-2008, 08:47 PM
I guess you'd rather see FOTW over and over?
TheLastKryptonian
05-08-2008, 08:49 PM
I see that you're obviously in the minority that prefer Clana and see it ruin the show. Oh well everybody is different. I LOVE Season 7 so I guess that cancels out your hate. :p
you_smell_terrific
05-08-2008, 08:50 PM
I agree with you up until the 'clana spice'. I'm sorry but thats been dead for years LOL! If they brought that back I might have to give up on this show. Whenever Smallville does end, I will just pretend the whole Veritas situation never happened. It is a completely ridiculous storyline that they used to try to bring in ratings. It just creates a million different plotholes and ruins the whole wonderful plot that it started with -.-
God, Smallville is the only show that has absolutely NO continuety. It's so frustrating to watch this week after week. To be honest I probably only watch the show now for the fan fiction that is inspired from the patheticness of each new episode.
*sigh* I just hope that season 8 is better without Al/Miles, but if Chloe might be gone then I will really have a hard time watching :( Unless we get some Clois and tights, I don't know how season 8 can go on without half their main cast.
Minela
05-08-2008, 08:53 PM
I agree about the continuity. Smallville is horrible with that, every time I watch another show I'm so amazed they actually adhere to their continuity.
Clana4Life
05-08-2008, 08:58 PM
Minela, what is FOTW? The whole Veritas storyline has pretty much obliterated 7 years of history. Did it do anything for ratings? Just looking at this site alone, it seems like only 1/4 of the members even posted this evening. Back when Smallville was interesting, this board was swarming with people. I just think people are bored. Just my opinion though.
Honey45
05-08-2008, 09:01 PM
I hate the direction Smallville has taken. This last few episodes have been so boring and so off track. They've changed 7 years of history. Veritas....please. Lionel protecting Clark's secret for all of these years. What the heck? This is ridiculous. The castle held a secret all of these years and Lionel never figured it out, but Lex did in one episode. Lana is still in a comatose state. I miss her spice. I miss Clana spice. It's way better than what we've been seeing lately. If this is the route they are taking now, I'm concerned as to what Season 8 will bring. How are the ratings these days? Quest was boring. Here's hoping Arctic won't be a snoozer.
Unfortunately, I agree. :(
I don't care about them changing anything with the story by introducing Veritas. The storylines are fine. The episodes themselves are boring. It's either A LOT of information/talking jammed into one episode, or a lot of nothing dragged out for a whole episode.
Some of the episodes lately are just.. blegh. :(
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Minela, what is FOTW? The whole Veritas storyline has pretty much obliterated 7 years of history. Did it do anything for ratings? Just looking at this site alone, it seems like only 1/4 of the members even posted this evening. Back when Smallville was interesting, this board was swarming with people. I just think people are bored. Just my opinion though.
FOTW means Freak of the Week.
In season one and two (and maybe three), every episode was basically about someone who was meteor infected, they caused a problem, Clark fixed it, everything back to normal.
Clana4Life
05-08-2008, 09:05 PM
Totally. Not to mention the information that they find out in each episode. I'm used to shows being unreal but this wayyy unreal. "Clark there' s a light in the sky just before Braniac and Kara disappear. That must mean that it's a time portal and through it you can go back to Krypton." Come on, please. The things they figure out and the ways they figure it out....Season 7 started out really good, but lately it's just blegh, as Honey 45 said. The Traveler...they've all been protecting the Traveler and Jor-El sent a device to keep Clark in check just in case he went bad. This is so unreal. THanks for making Jor-El an evil moron by the way. They've totally obliterated the loving, caring father that he truly was. But they've been doing that for 7 years. Tonight took the cake, though. Oh, Smallville, Smallville. What's happened to you?
you_smell_terrific
05-08-2008, 09:08 PM
That is definatly true. I've been wondering lately why the episode forums have been completely dead during/after an episode airs. I didn't even make the connection that it was because this season sucks LOL!!
I wish they would go back to season 5esque. Every episode in season 5 was golden. I even like the clana when it was good. The Chlark was fufilling (even just the friendship) there was cute clois scenes, advancing storylines with great superheroes. Season 5 was smallville's element. If they could pull off season 8 like that I would be happy with it ending there.
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*takes a moment of silence for the good ol' years*
thehenry89
05-08-2008, 09:09 PM
I hate the direction Smallville has taken. This last few episodes have been so boring and so off track. They've changed 7 years of history. Veritas....please. Lionel protecting Clark's secret for all of these years. What the heck? This is ridiculous. The castle held a secret all of these years and Lionel never figured it out, but Lex did in one episode. Lana is still in a comatose state. I miss her spice. I miss Clana spice. It's way better than what we've been seeing lately. If this is the route they are taking now, I'm concerned as to what Season 8 will bring. How are the ratings these days? Quest was boring. Here's hoping Arctic won't be a snoozer.
I would rather have bamboo shoots inserted slowly into my fingernails, then watch anymore "Clana Spice". I'm sorry, but the first part of this season was like a big crap pile with some clana angst on top, I for one, am relived that it's going to be over. They had their chance (they've had about six chances) it didn't work out it's over, and it's time for clark to turn the page.
Superman of Krypton
05-08-2008, 09:12 PM
This Veritas Arc has been the best Smallville in years; mainly because it focuses on the most interesting characters (the Luthors) and shows Rosenbaum at his best.
The show will be crap next season without them.
Clana4Life
05-08-2008, 09:14 PM
I know that some people don't like Clana. That's fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but even without Clana, this show has not gotten better. Many people thought that Clana was killing Smallville. We've had what four or five episodes without Clana and an additional two with very limited Clana, and Smallville is no better to me. It's even worse. The stories are jumping around. Jimmy some freaking superspy. Lionel's the great protector. Veritas! Traveler! Oh my goodness. I'd take Pete chewing Stride gum over this. LOL :)
thehenry89
05-08-2008, 09:15 PM
I know that some people don't like Clana. That's fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but even without Clana, this show has not gotten better. Many people thought that Clana was killing Smallville. We've had what four or five episodes without Clana and an additional two with very limited Clana, and Smallville is no better to me. It's even worse. The stories are jumping around. Jimmy some freaking superspy. Lionel's the great protector. Veritas! Traveler! Oh my goodness. I'd take Pete chewing Stride gum over this. LOL :)
Aside from hero, the last five eps of smallville have been some of the best in years, even sleeper was ok.
Theshadow129x
05-08-2008, 09:16 PM
I hate the direction Smallville has taken. This last few episodes have been so boring and so off track. They've changed 7 years of history. Veritas....please. Lionel protecting Clark's secret for all of these years. What the heck? This is ridiculous. The castle held a secret all of these years and Lionel never figured it out, but Lex did in one episode. Lana is still in a comatose state. I miss her spice. I miss Clana spice. It's way better than what we've been seeing lately. If this is the route they are taking now, I'm concerned as to what Season 8 will bring. How are the ratings these days? Quest was boring. Here's hoping Arctic won't be a snoozer.
yeah...im sure a lot of people would beg to differ. seriously i prefer these episodes over rehashed relationship problems about secrets and lies and who's to blame. quest was a break away from all that crap. its has less angst and a story that is actually movie along well.
Clana4Life
05-08-2008, 09:22 PM
I guess this story is moving along well if you don't mind the fact that it's destroying 7 years of continuity. Next season we will find out that Jonathan Kent was a member of Vertias, too and that Martha knew all along that she would receive a child from a distant star. She's been keeping this secret. What else can we change? Hmm, Jor-El isn't Clark's biological father. We should have six episodes on how he's really Zor-El's son and Laura kept it a secret. Hey, everything's up for grabs.
thehenry89
05-08-2008, 09:24 PM
I guess this story is moving along well if you don't mind the fact that it's destroying 7 years of continuity. Next season we will find out that Jonathan Kent was a member of Vertias, too and that Martha knew all along that she would receive a child from a distant star. She's been keeping this secret. What else can we change? Hmm, Jor-El isn't Clark's biological father. We should have six episodes on how he's really Zor-El's son and Laura kept it a secret. Hey, everything's up for grabs.
if anything the continuity has gotten better from past seasons. they even mentioned gabe sullivan last week. for goodness sakes they brought pete back (worst possible episode to do it in), but still.
Clana4Life
05-08-2008, 09:26 PM
When I say continuity, I'm not referring to them mentioning old characters. I mean them continuing with storylines that have been established and pretty much canonized in Smallville. They are changing that this season.
thehenry89
05-08-2008, 09:30 PM
When I say continuity, I'm not referring to them mentioning old characters. I mean them continuing with storylines that have been established and pretty much canonized in Smallville. They are changing that this season.
i havent seen that at all. imo this is the most continuity i've seen in a long time.
WookieeBoy
05-08-2008, 09:38 PM
I have to add my vote that this season is overall pretty boring and irritating with all of the plot discontinuity. Somehow, I think that the writers really think that we would all think it's cool that Lex finds a Kryptonian device RIGHT THERE in the Mansion above the fireplace. Perhaps that is the writers' idea of continuity.
It's dumb that he never found it before after all the times he has had to have his people search for bugs left by his dad and things of that nature. Not to mention that he himself has probably had mini cameras installed in that very place. Then there is the fact that that room has been demolished so many times.
susangail
05-08-2008, 09:39 PM
The last several episodes seem uneven and all over the place. It's possible they might go down better after several watchings, but it's all too much.
MetropolisGirl4SV
05-08-2008, 09:40 PM
I think seasons 4 and 5 had some of the best plot lines. I believe season 7 has showed that the series has lost it's steam except for a few goodies here and there. However I do like the Veritas continuity. I just hope that season 8 goes out with bang but I don't know things look kinda glim. Hoping for the best.
Theshadow129x
05-08-2008, 09:42 PM
They needed something to tie up all the loose ends of the show because, lets face it, there was nothing but loose ends on the show. I give them credit for doing this. i think they did a good job this week with getting the ball rolling for veritas and MR final episode.
Clana4Life
05-08-2008, 10:02 PM
My sentiments exactly. Ugly Betty is looking pretty good right about now. I'm still trying to hold out hope for Arctic. But everything leading up to it has been in left field. They've got too much to cram into one more episode. Usually when they do this, it comes off as too much information crammed into too little time. Not a good thing.
Theshadow129x
05-08-2008, 10:06 PM
yeah i do agree with you there. that was my problem with Vessel and phantom. so much was crammed in all at the same time that they kind of fell flat for me. i'll give them the benefit though for the series finale(series finale to me because the show wont be good after MR is gone). I think Lex can only go out on top next week because if it just ends on an unanswered cliffhanger then Smallville is screwed.
Clana4Life
05-08-2008, 11:51 PM
Will he suddenly get amnesia, but if that happens the season finale will fall flat. Please don't give us a Lex or Lana got amnesia storyline just to help the exit the show. Fans deserve a little more than that.
LexLuv180
05-09-2008, 12:18 AM
I thought this episode was interesting. We have good character development, suspense, a sense of urgency, tie-ins to the superman lore and past plots, etc, etc.
Thrill_Seeker
05-09-2008, 03:59 AM
SEASON 7 ROCKS !!!!!!!
all the season definetly get better with every one.
so really if I was to put them in order for worst to best.
s1
s2
s3
s4
s5
s6
s7
its not that the earlier seasons were bad, they were fantastic !!!!!!!!
but the other season were better,
although I've been struggling which is better, 6 or 7, I think they're actually equal.
I cant beleive there could be any smallville fan who doesnt like whats happening, maybe their clana heart is just crushed, and are angry, but oh well.
for the majority of us, its great !!!!
I am SOOO HAPPY lana hasn't been around and that hopefully she'll leave.
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My sentiments exactly. Ugly Betty is looking pretty good right about now. I'm still trying to hold out hope for Arctic. But everything leading up to it has been in left field. They've got too much to cram into one more episode. Usually when they do this, it comes off as too much information crammed into too little time. Not a good thing.
UGLY BETTY ???!!!!
wth !!!!!
that show is COMPLETELY retarted. its sooo stupid and I watched it like 5 times in givin it a chance of hope and its not even funny !!!!!!!!!
I dont know how people can watch that, its a dumb storyline. Do you know that the biatch lady in ugly betty was in the villain category along with sylar from heroes and lex from here. HAHAHAHA,
I actually laughed out loud when I saw it. I think everything is going along wel, We'll just have to wait and see,
arctic will still be good no matter what, its just a matter of how good its gonna be
you_smell_terrific
05-09-2008, 04:56 AM
Actually, if you read around the forums, the majority hate season 7 and the direction it's going in. You liking it is in fact the minority. Season 6 had a lot of good episodes. It is definatly far better than season 7.
S5
S1
S6
S4
S2
S3
S7
IMO
biggkoz
05-09-2008, 06:37 AM
After last nights episode Im kinda wishing next week was the series finale. Next year better be something less than painful to watch and pretty much be a "superman 1" season,which ironically was on last night haha.
Theshadow129x
05-09-2008, 06:40 AM
i have to say i still think season 2 was the best followed by 3 i cant believe someone likes this stupid season. i mean it has great moments but more than half of the episodes have been lame and uneventful.
Hopefulsuicide
05-09-2008, 06:51 AM
hi, it's me, hopefulsuicide, always popping up on any thread that bashes season 7 :p
yes, the season has been boring... mainly because it shouldn't have been. traveler SHOULD have been amazing... it was supposed to be the realisation of my fan girl fantasy that i have written fanfictions about - lionel keeping clark in a cage using kryptonite... it shud have been phsychologically intense, dramatic, and i shud have felt bad for Clark... i didnt
Veritas was simply ridiculous writing. i can't remember seeing an episode that on its face was so exciting but underneath was a pile of poo... it SHOULD have been fantastic
Descent was good. It had a strength that stands up against all my cynicism. I can fault a few minor things, but it was a shining beacon. when i feel sad about Smallville, i watch the funeral scene and pretend that's what the show is always like
Sleeper - i don't even know how to put this episode into a few sentances. so i'm going to do it in a few words. awful, painful, embarrasing, ridiculous, icky, confusing, baffling etc etc
Apocolypse - one of the best ideas they have had all season that came out as one of the biggest dissapointments for me. it's like saying 'yeah let's make some bread', then putting it in the oven, bringing it out and serving it, only to discover someone forgot to put in the yeast... some people don't mind cause they still gonna eat the bread... others find it leaves them with a bitter taste in their mouth
:rotfl:
sorry that was such a bad analogy, i'm very tired
but you get my point... the last 5 episodes have been an intense time on k-site. i havent seen arctic yet so you'll have to excuse my lack of opinion on that.
it's since traveler i've heard the term 'hater', it's since traveler i've been labelled the biggest complainer on the site... and it's since then i've found myself disliking the show
that's the power of season 7
stenochick
05-09-2008, 07:08 AM
When I say continuity, I'm not referring to them mentioning old characters. I mean them continuing with storylines that have been established and pretty much canonized in Smallville. They are changing that this season.
Yes. Good point. I enjoy the DaVinci Code, I mean, Veritas storyline a lot. But it was obviously thought up recently because it contradicts facts established in earlier seasons.
As long as you do not rewatch old episodes on DVD, then your imagination can smooth over the plot holes. But if you think about it too long, you see the contradictions and the implausibility and it is frustrating.
I guess Jor-el had no way of knowing about Kryptonite so he somehow got this thing that can control Clark onto the Earth and told Veritas about it. How did Jor-el know he could trust these humans?:confused:
Super Maverick
05-09-2008, 07:11 AM
i disagree. it's not bornign at all. in fact, ever since the indorduciton of the whole veritas thing, its gotten quite exciteing
Theshadow129x
05-09-2008, 07:15 AM
its brought life to season seven i do say that but i dont think its made it exciting.
scifigirl
05-09-2008, 07:24 AM
I agree super maverick. I don't think that this season has been boring; it's been a mixed bag in term of episode quality. IMO, this season is ending on a stronger note than last season. At this time last year, I was reading a lot of complaints that no one knew what phantom was going to be about because the episodes leading up to it didn't have a story arc building to a logical conclusion. That is not the case with this season. I will give it that.
bigbadbeasty
05-09-2008, 07:27 AM
This season has been dire. As a fan of Superman and Smallville, I find it incredible anyone can say this season as a good one. Look back at some of the old episodes, they really are vastly superior.
I really am getting fed up of waiting for Clark to be even slightly heroic, or even Lex to show his intelligence. Clark has been banging on about training, and full filling his destiny since season 4!
I will keep watching, but if I don't see a Superman costume before the end of the show, I will hunting those writers down ;)
Kevin24
05-09-2008, 09:29 AM
I love every smallville season and people who love season 7 are not in the minority. It is just the same people bashing season 7 every week. Pay close attention and you will notice that it's mostly the same people bashing it.
Anyway, it doesn't matter what anyone says because everyone is entitled to their opinion ...some love season 7, some like it, some think it's meh and others hate it . It doesn't matter what anybody says it won't change anyones opinion.
TheOriginalKal-el
05-09-2008, 09:40 AM
I have to agree with way this season has gone. The last two even. Clana aside, I believe it was already said earlier about the figuring out of the "time portal" from a spec of light on a photo. Granted they are tying everything up, but it seems rushed, almost forced now. I too miss the simplicity of the early seasons. This is the problem though when you get rid of all the more veteran actors I think. And I'm referring to age, not years acting.
There has been a noticeable decline in the number of threads per episode I think. I shudder to think what next season will bring when 2/3 of what has been around for the show's entirety will not be present. I mean good grief Doomsday in Smallville??
Clana4Life
05-09-2008, 11:22 AM
Doomsday and Tessbucket as Lex referred to her. :) I think Season 5 and 6 were the best. Season 7, the last 5, 6, or so episodes have been the worst. This board has died off. People are watching other shows instead of Smallville this season. How are the ratings as compared to previous season or even previous episodes? I'd be interested in knowing that. And yes, those who actually like Season 7 are in the minority, which is cool. Glad a few people like it. If you count the amount of people who are still posting on K-site, then those who have said they hate this season are more in number than those who say they love it. Heck, count the number of posts on this one thread and you'll see that - not to mention similar threads like this one. I don't know what Season 8 will bring with the exit of some many interesting characters. I've missed Lionel and Lana in the episodes and now they are taking away Lex and possibly Chloe. Um, if this happens, end this show this year, please. I'm sorry but I don't think there can be a comeback with all of them gone.
Vergon6
05-09-2008, 11:37 AM
I am much more worried about Doomsday as a 'hunky' bartender with a disturbing family history than anything that has gone on this season.
"Veritas" the episode itself did feel incomplete, but that's basically because they had to gut the episode when they found they were actually coming back to write more episodes.
I think it's rather cynical to think that all of sudden Martha or Jonathan was in Veritas, come on.
Veritas is something I have been waiting awhile for, especially since the idea was brought up directly in the Justice and Doom game during Season 6. While the earlier seasons are debatable in terms of connections to Veritas, I still believe that they started thinking about this back in Season 4. Did they have everything planned out? No. Did they know they would call it Veritas? Not bloody likely. But if you watch the interchange between the Luthors, the Teagues, and Bridgette Crosby (a representative of the Swann Foundation) in Season 4, it is clear they were starting to think of something more complex for the show's mythology, even if it was only a vague idea.
Has the writing been perfect? No. Are there some plotholes? Sure, but overall I much more interested in shows delving into the overall mythology than relationship angst or blowing stuff up, since it is long overdue. Some people over course are frustrated about not seeing the caves on screen again, but logistically it was not possible to fulfill fan and probably writer's desires to show the caves again (the fortress stands in its place). Frankly, they should have started some of this in Season 6, but chalk that up to poor planning by the writers. Also, it is possible that Michael Rosenbaum's imminent and probable (and now official) exit made the writers jam everything into the last quarter of Season 7.
ClarkNLanaTogether4Eva
05-09-2008, 11:53 AM
Smallville - EXHILARATING/Impeccable/Fascinating/Stellar/Magnificent.
Personally, this Veritas arc has been one of the best storylines in the show's history. I don't see how these episodes are boring. If you were true fans of the show, you guys wouldn't be trashing the latest episodes. True fans appreciate the episodes and love them - good or bad.
If anything, season 8 will be the best season yet if this "GREAT EPISODE" trend continues!
Three cheers for Smallville! Hip hip hooray! Hip hip hooray! Hip hip hooray! :)
Hopefulsuicide
05-09-2008, 02:06 PM
as has been discussed on several threads, some theories posited by posters indicate that 'true fans' are the ones who DO moan when they dislike something. we are in love with more than just the show, but the idea of the show, and what it could truly become.
personally, i dont even think i can say that anymore, but i think some of the people who disliked the last few episodes still call themselves true fans
Kevin24
05-09-2008, 02:26 PM
as has been discussed on several threads, some theories posited by posters indicate that 'true fans' are the ones who DO moan when they dislike something. we are in love with more than just the show, but the idea of the show, and what it could truly become.
personally, i dont even think i can say that anymore, but i think some of the people who disliked the last few episodes still call themselves true fans
How can you say who is a true fan and who isn't?
"True fans" can criticize the show but at the same time there have to be parts of the show that "true fans" still enjoy. If "true fans" no longer enjoy any part of the show? how does that make them "true fans" of the show? Why would "true fans" try to take enjoyment from others who do enjoy the show?
It's fine that they want to help improve the show but that is different from whining week in and week out about every little detail they don't like about the show. Just criticizing isn't productive and doesn't help anyone at all. All it does is built resentment from those who do enjoy and those who do not.
I do enjoy reading the posts about what people do not like and what they think should have happened instead but I dislike reading "Clark has no balls", "Clark is a moron" though humorous at first it quickly gets old and tired.
At least when comments like that are made try to change it up:lol:
If these "true fans" dislike this show that much.....I have no idea why they keep watching it. If I dislike something that much I just stop watching period like I did with Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
MrMakeEmAkRight
05-10-2008, 07:42 AM
If these "true fans" dislike this show that much.....I have no idea why they keep watching it.
Uh . that is obviously is what makes a true fan a "true fan".
hemmy
05-10-2008, 08:37 AM
I hate the direction Smallville has taken. This last few episodes have been so boring and so off track. They've changed 7 years of history. Veritas....please. Lionel protecting Clark's secret for all of these years. What the heck? This is ridiculous. The castle held a secret all of these years and Lionel never figured it out, but Lex did in one episode. Lana is still in a comatose state. I miss her spice. I miss Clana spice. It's way better than what we've been seeing lately. If this is the route they are taking now, I'm concerned as to what Season 8 will bring. How are the ratings these days? Quest was boring. Here's hoping Arctic won't be a snoozer.
Nonsense, the last few episodes have been much better.
You MISS CLANA????
I am not a Lana hater, I actually like her character but I do not miss Clana.
Yasise
05-10-2008, 10:08 AM
I believe season 7 has showed that the series has lost it's steam except for a few goodies here and there..
Not only the show itself lost that steam but I'm afraid, the cast, too. :(
I just hope that season 8 goes out with bang but I don't know things look kinda glim. Hoping for the best.
I'm hoping for that, too.
as has been discussed on several threads, some theories posited by posters indicate that 'true fans' are the ones who DO moan when they dislike something. we are in love with more than just the show, but the idea of the show, and what it could truly become.
personally, i dont even think i can say that anymore, but i think some of the people who disliked the last few episodes still call themselves true fans
Of course they do! Nobody has the right to judge about anybodies loyalty or love for the show. To discuss about what you didn't like is just normal and that doesn't make you an "untrue" fan.
How can you say who is a true fan and who isn't?
Nobody can and Hopefulsuicide isn't saying that either, IMO. I guess you have to ask that question to ClarkNLanaTogether4Eva. :)<SCRIPT type=text/javascript> vbmenu_register("postmenu_3777476", true); </SCRIPT>
Why would "true fans" try to take enjoyment from others who do enjoy the show?
Sorry Kevin24, but how can someone possibly take enjoyment from other fans by having different opinions about the show? I doubt that a "true fan" would even listen to those different opinions or let himself be influenced by them. IMO a "true fan" would go on enjoying the show inspite of those different opinions he read about, wouldn't he?
Just criticizing isn't productive and doesn't help anyone at all.
I highly doubt that our criticism is heard or even cared about by the producers or writers etc. etc. So if our criticism doesn't help them to improve the show it surely helps us to talk about our feelings for the show, may them be good or bad.
I do enjoy reading the posts about what people do not like and what they think should have happened instead but I dislike reading "Clark has no balls", "Clark is a moron" though humorous at first it quickly gets old and tired.
I agree with you here, I don't like those comments either. This is actually bashing the character, IMO.
If these "true fans" dislike this show that much.....I have no idea why they keep watching it.
Simply because there is still hope in their hearts that it will be better next week. And where's hope, there's still true love for the show :). Period.
Fat Elvis 007
05-10-2008, 10:15 AM
I know that some people don't like Clana. That's fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but even without Clana, this show has not gotten better. Many people thought that Clana was killing Smallville. We've had what four or five episodes without Clana and an additional two with very limited Clana, and Smallville is no better to me. It's even worse. The stories are jumping around. Jimmy some freaking superspy. Lionel's the great protector. Veritas! Traveler! Oh my goodness. I'd take Pete chewing Stride gum over this. LOL :)
I do agree that Lana's absence has not helped anything.
LegendaryU2K
05-10-2008, 11:50 AM
Not boring, but new storyline = Gotta get use to it.
Apocalypse was my favorite this season, besides kara and bizzaro, the rest was great also.
I just wish people will stop complaining abut the show and just enjoy it haha.
Honey45
05-10-2008, 06:06 PM
I have to agree with way this season has gone. The last two even. Clana aside, I believe it was already said earlier about the figuring out of the "time portal" from a spec of light on a photo. Granted they are tying everything up, but it seems rushed, almost forced now. I too miss the simplicity of the early seasons. This is the problem though when you get rid of all the more veteran actors I think. And I'm referring to age, not years acting.
There has been a noticeable decline in the number of threads per episode I think. I shudder to think what next season will bring when 2/3 of what has been around for the show's entirety will not be present. I mean good grief Doomsday in Smallville??
I agree with what people are saying about how the characters are finding things out. Maybe I misunderstood, but Lex saying "To face the shore, I would have to turn left.. It's been in my fireplace the whole time!"
It's like.. how convienent? You've spent so much time and money and you found nothing, but this little poem/song gives you the answer?
I know they're wrapping it up quickly, and I'm sure the writer's strike didn't help.. but ugh. Sometimes when I'm watching it, it's just like, "what the hell were they thinking?"
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If these "true fans" dislike this show that much.....I have no idea why they keep watching it. If I dislike something that much I just stop watching period like I did with Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
I would generally agree with this. A lot of people complain about things that really can't be fixed. "Clark isn't turning into Superman", "Clark's not flying". I believe those things haven't happened yet for a reason.
But I think it's a legitimate complaint to say this season is forced, boring and crammed together. I'm not trying to nitpick or being whiney, I just find it hard to like the show. I want to, but it's hard.
I would say "I complain because I hope season 8 will be better".. but chances are, with *spoiler - Lex and Lana leaving - spoiler* I probably won't be watching anymore.
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There has been a noticeable decline in the number of threads per episode I think. I shudder to think what next season will bring when 2/3 of what has been around for the show's entirety will not be present. I mean good grief Doomsday in Smallville??
I just wanted to point out, you can check the number of threads and posts on Kryptonsite on the message boards before you enter an episode section.
Not even going by episodes, just seasons - season 5 has 80,000 posts (4000 threads), season 6 has 90,000 posts (3600 threads) and season 7 has 70,000 posts (2500 threads).
That's a pretty big drop.
Timester
05-10-2008, 06:29 PM
Veritas is the story that I have been waiting since season 4. The seeds were planted there. The big problem with Veritas is not the Veritas story (no, nothing on Veritas has contradicted past season, unlike some are saying), is the fact that is too little, too late. Seriously, what was the point of Dark Lana on the first half? Or Bizana? Or even Lexana last season? Why they didn't focused on the best part of Smallville since day one, that are the mythos?
Boring? Not for me, this is the reason why I see Smallville, the mythos around it.
boywithbluehanger
05-10-2008, 09:36 PM
Smallville isn't boring. I'll admit that this season is probably the 6th entertaining season in the series but none of the seasons were truly boring. The Veritas arc hasn't been all that entertaining because it hasn't really affected Clark as much as the Brainiac arc, or The Stones arc. But in all honesty, the payoff: Lex finding out the truth about Clark...is slightly more interesting than Bizarro imo.
Kyogre
05-11-2008, 06:40 PM
I hate the direction Smallville has taken. This last few episodes have been so boring and so off track. They've changed 7 years of history. Veritas....please. Lionel protecting Clark's secret for all of these years. What the heck? This is ridiculous. The castle held a secret all of these years and Lionel never figured it out, but Lex did in one episode. Lana is still in a comatose state. I miss her spice. I miss Clana spice. It's way better than what we've been seeing lately. If this is the route they are taking now, I'm concerned as to what Season 8 will bring. How are the ratings these days? Quest was boring. Here's hoping Arctic won't be a snoozer.
Clana Spice :D i miss lana probably wont watch season 8 without her
Sweetie
05-11-2008, 08:40 PM
If I want to be annoyed by boring relationships,I go watch Bervely Hill 90210.For me,what is important is the mytho,the symbols,the caves ect.I waited for long time to have explanations for those mysteries.Now I finally got some answers.So,I enjoy it very much.That's why the last 3 episodes of this season will be the best ones yet.
dcmarriott
05-12-2008, 08:46 AM
I think seasons 4 and 5 had some of the best plot lines. I believe season 7 has showed that the series has lost it's steam except for a few goodies here and there. However I do like the Veritas continuity. I just hope that season 8 goes out with bang but I don't know things look kinda glim. Hoping for the best.
I agree. I think the real problem is that TPTB were locked into the "no flights, no tights" rule. Logically, after season 5, Clark should have gone into training at the Fortress, and then returned to the human world to become a reporter. The Veritas story line would have been a logical followup to the Teague family storyline, perhaps in season 6. Instead, season 6 had him hanging around the farm, pining for his high school sweetheart, and coming up with excuses for delaying his training. Lana should have been written out in season 6, Clark should have learned to fly, and the show should have come to a climax this year with Clark donning the nerdly glasses by day and the red cape by night.
TaZeR
05-12-2008, 08:51 AM
I agree that somewhere near about 1/4 of season 7 it started changing I think it kind of lost its touch the perfect flow it used to have and that satisfaction of each episode is kind of less they should of focused more on brainiac and kara stuff every episode not toss it all in one then leave it to hang again.
Jack-El49
05-12-2008, 12:12 PM
I've really enjoyed this season. One thing is clear - Al/Miles can't do romance if there's no angst involved. That's my beef with this season. Clana was supposed to get a real shot this season without the secrets and lies. That didn't happen because of everyone else b!tching about it. It didn't have to take center stage but it shouldn't have been primarily off-screen romance either.
Having said that, Clana is over and that's fine and I really do like the direction this season has otherwise gone. I have high hopes for next season with only CK, Lois, Kara, and Jimmy carrying over in a major way & KK making spot appearances.
CK is moving on - just what everyone has been carping about for the last 3 years.
Darkness Falls
05-14-2008, 02:03 AM
A bad episode of Smallville is still better than 95% of the best episodes of any other T.V. show on the air now. It's still the show we love , cut 'em some slack.
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