What the hell are TPTB doing to Chloe?

[Jory]

It appears that in--what could be-- Allison's last year TPTB are completely, and totally, tearing down the character of Chloe.

-First of all they have her getting demeaned at the Planet by Grant and they don't have her fighting back. This from the girl who took Kahn up on her challenge and proved Pauline wrong.

-Then they have her getting fired,and her response is "Oh well." When she was fired at the Torch she was pissed. The girl has wanted to be a reporter since she was 6 (see "Progeny"), and when she's (wrongfully) fired (by Lex) she's all ho-hum. You'd think that after 7 years of reporting, she'd be a little pissed off.

-Jimmy dumps her (after eyeing Kara,and licking his lips) in front of Chloe. Then he dumps Kara (after she gets amnesia) and Chloe takes him back. Then when they are together he looks down Lois' shirt,and takes a photo of Lois bending over, and Chloe's ok with that. Where's the old Chloe who would dump his ass?

-Lex gets carved up, and the girl who had a bunch of curiosity (she did say that Smallville was "Land of the weird,home of the strange") isn't the least bit curious and would rather have sex with Jimmy?!

-In "Vessel" she tells Clark that he "isn't a killer" but she's now implying that he should kill Lex!

WTF are they doing to Chloe? Are they intentionally tearing her down since this is/may be Allison's last year? I would've thought/hoped that TPTB would've given her better material,and a much better send off than jail in her (possible) final season. If TPTB are trying to get Allison back I can't see how assassinating Chloe's character will do the trick. Is this the network wanting people to turn against Chloe, like the WB tried in season 2? TPTB truly suck some serious booty. They couldn't write a better sendoff,and now they are tearing apart a popular character so that other characters will be liked more,imo. Morons.

[Kalista]

They are also going out of their way to destroy the Chlark bond that has been developing since season one.

[Jory]

They are also going out of their way to destroy the Chlark bond that has been developing since season one.

I'm not a romantic Chlark fan (I love their friendship), but it is apparent that they are destroying everything about Chloe, including her friendship with Clark. Their friendship has also seemed off. In "Action" Chloe was upset about Jimmy and Clark's response was to 1)turn his back on her(opening sequence) and 2) roll his eyes (at the DP);however, in "Siren" he comforts Lois over the Oliver thing. Then in "Sleeper" Chloe is beaten and tortured and Clark is more concerned about Lana, he couldn't even make a little remark.

TPTB are definately tearing apart every aspect of Chloe,including her friendship with Clark. They don't seem as close as they were.

[Joren DarkStar]

I just see it as Chloe has changed and had a moment of desperation.

Jail is a good sendoff, because it doesn't kill the character, and leaves hope for the return.

Keep in mind, these last episodes are the Gough-Millar vision, and there is a reason they weren't kept on for Season 8.

I'd expect the tone to change for next season, and for Chloe to grow. To be honest, what you call character assassination, I call growth (which can be good or bad), because Chloe has never been static, and to be honest, ever since she found out Clark's secret, she's been so consumed with protecting Clark that she lost her drive. And it happens. Things in life can sap our passions and change us, and not necessarily for the good.

As it is, Chloe is one of my favorite characters because she's one of the few who has actually been affected by all that is going on. Whereas the others (Sneaky Lionel, Wistful Lana, Mopey Clark, etc) have aside from a game changer here or there, pretty much been the same person they started. Only Lex and Chloe have really had anything that occurs affect them, and even Lex's transformation from good to bad had an unbelievable jump in it this past season.

I think Chloe will get out thanks to Ollie. I don't think we've seen the last of Chloe.

[Kalista]

I'm not a romantic Chlark fan (I love their friendship), but it is appatent that they are destroying everything about Chloe, including her friendship with Clark. Their friendship has also seemed off. In "Action" Chloe was upset about Jimmy and Clark's response was to 1)turn his back on her(opening sequenc) and 2) roll his eyes (at the DP);however, in "Siren" he comforts Lois over the Oliver thing. Then in "Sleeper" Chloe is beaten and tortured and Clark is more concerned about Lana, he couldn't even make a little remark.

TPTB are definately tearing apart every aspect of Chloe,including her friendship with Clark. They don't seem as close as they were.

Well, I did say "bond". They have shared a bond since season one. So whether a person is a romantic Chlark fan or a fan of their friendship, either way TPTB seem determined to downplay it or destroy it. More often than not, they make Clark look selfish and insensitive.

[finalbahamut]

Chloe fans will definitely be mad if in jail is where her character will end up and the reason for her in jail is so mediocre.

[Kalista]

To be honest, what you call character assassination

I don't see how these developments can be viewed as anything other than character assasination. It is obvious that butchering her characer because her recent action are inconsistent with the Chloe we have seen for the past 6 years. It is OOC for Chloe to:

be more interested in sleeping with Jimmy than learning information about a potential story
tell Clark to kill someone
to not care about working at the DP

[Jory]

Chloe fans will definitely be mad if in jail is where her character will end up and the reason for her in jail is so mediocre.

I'm a Chloe fan, and I'll be pissed. Lex is getting a great send-off, and I'm sure Lana will, but Chloe gets crapped on. This is all because TPTB couldn't think of a better send-off for Chloe. I'm sure the fans could come up with something better than the two lamest ways: death and jail. Chloe didn't even get a good storyline for her last go around,unless they think her being a search engine for Clark is wonderful, and given that these are the same people who think jail is a great way to say goodbye to Chloe,they probably do.

I don't think Allison will be back, and that's what pisses me off that TPTB couldn't give her a better send-off, just in case. I fully expect to be told what happens to Chloe, and I don't doubt that TPTB will expect Chloe fans to be satisfied with that. If they had of written a better ending, then they wouldn't have to resort to telling the audience what happens to Chloe.

Kalista I 100% agree with you. It is character assassination, because we aren't seeing any believeable emotions coming from Chloe. If you were a reporter (in some capacity) for 7 years, and you were fired,wouldn't you be a littel bit pissed off? If you caught your boyfriend eyeing another girl, and licking his lips wouldn't that piss you off? If you got back with your boyfriend and he's looking down your cousin's shirt, and taking photos of her bending over, wouldn't that piss you off? Instead they have Chloe being all "la-dee-da" about everything. That is character assassination.

[GuardianAngel]

Her character has changed a lot this season and not in a consistent way, but as far as not caring about working at the DP is concerned, she hasn't achieved anything as a reporter since season 5 or am I wrong? She's been busier helping Clark than being a reporter (thanks to our beloved writers!) Maybe what Grant told her when he noticed Lois wasn't that far off (If you're lucky Sullivan some of her passion will run off on you and maybe put a little fire on that torch you let burn out after highschool.)

[Kalista]

but as far as not caring about working at the DP is concerned

The question is why are TPTB doing this?

[GuardianAngel]

^I dont' know. They were playing the working at the Daily PLanet card (the prestige of working there and the fulfilment of her dreams) in season 5, then in season 6 they decided Chloe should help Clark more, get involved with the Justice League and decided to scare us with her meteor freak ability which was revealed only in the season finale. And now in season 7 she is helping Clark even more (way too much IMHO), she is concerned about her meteor power and doesn't care about being fired from the DP... strange progression, indeed.

[Jory]

The question is why are TPTB doing this?


Because TPTB are tearing apart everything that made Chloe, Chloe. I personally think they are pulling a season 2, and are trying to get the fans to hate Chloe. I think it's an attempt to get the fans to start liking other characters who may not be as popular as Chloe is,imo.

[Kalista]

Because TPTB are tearing apart everything that made Chloe, Chloe. I personally think they are pulling a season 2, and are trying to get the fans to hate Chloe. I think it's an attempt to get the fans to start liking other characters who may not be as popular as Chloe is,imo.

I agree.

[GuardianAngel]

Because TPTB are tearing apart everything that made Chloe, Chloe. I personally think they are pulling a season 2, and are trying to get the fans to hate Chloe. I think it's an attempt to get the fans to start liking other characters who may not be as popular as Chloe is,imo.

You may be right, but on the other hand TPTB decided Chloe should be the one to ask for Jor-el's help in "Traveler", a decision which pleased most Chloe fans.

[Kalista]

I wonder if these episodes been re written somewhat since Goughlar left?

[Twitch]

Because TPTB are tearing apart everything that made Chloe, Chloe. I personally think they are pulling a season 2, and are trying to get the fans to hate Chloe. I think it's an attempt to get the fans to start liking other characters who may not be as popular as Chloe is,imo.
I think that's going a little far, saying that they're trying to get the fans to hate her. You guys should really watch the episode before passing this kind of judgement, I didn't come out of the episode despising her character that's for sure.

[Jory]

I agree.

It's interesting because that tactic never works on me, because I'm not an idiot and I know what they are trying to do. So I end up hating TPTB, the network, the writers, and most importantly the characters they are trying to force me to like. How TPTB think that making one character look bad so others will look better is the greatest idea ever, is something I won't ever understand.

Kalista I think Al and Miles leave when the season is over. I don't think there will be any re-writes because they are still there.

Twitch this (the character assassination of Chloe) has been going on since the start of this season.

I thought the "bash Chloe while she's down" theme was going to lead to a good ending, little did I know that ending is jail . Silly me.

[Kalista]

You may be right, but on the other hand TPTB decided Chloe should be the one to ask for Jor-el's help in "Traveler", a decision which pleased most Chloe fans.

This isn't all about Clark. Chloe's character development has been trashed.

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I didn't come out of the episode despising her character that's for sure.

I don't despise her character but I do have a problem with the direction that her character is being taken. I despise the people who are responsible for it.

[GuardianAngel]

This isn't all about Clark. Chloe's character development has been trashed.

Fine, but what I meant was that I'm not so sure they want fans to hate her....

[Kalista]

I think that's going a little far, saying that they're trying to get the fans to hate her.

I don't. I agree with what Jory said about how they tried to make Chloe unlikeable in season two.

[Jory]

You may be right, but on the other hand TPTB decided Chloe should be the one to ask for Jor-el's help in "Traveler", a decision which pleased most Chloe fans.

Not this Chloe fan. I want Chloe to be served well, just as Clark fans want him to be served well in the story. If they were to give Chloe her own (independant of Clark) storyline that stayed true to who the character is,and was a great storyline, I'd be all for that. When Chloe isn't portrayed how she should be, and her character is assassinated in the process, I don't care about what she says about Clark. I'm too busy being pissed that TPTB are ripping her apart.

As it is Chloe fans have nothing to look forward to in the last two episodes. In this episode she was more concerned about having sex with Jimmy, and the next episode all she does is get arrested thanks for the screw you, TPTB.

[Kalista]

Fine, but what I meant was that I'm not so sure they want fans to hate her....

Hate is a strong word. Perhaps they want people to stop caring about what happens to her, IMHO. If you have a character that gained unexpected popularity, you know that you can't just get rid of the character without alienating that particular fan base. But if you can make people began to dislike the character, it is much easier to dispose of him or her and potentially keep that same group of viewers. That's just my little opinion. Sure, it is speculation but recent events just don't make any sense.

[Jory]

Hate is a strong word. Perhaps they want people to stop caring about what happens to her, IMHO. If you have a character that gained unexpected popularity, you know that you can't just get rid of the character without alienating that particular fan base. But if you can make people began to dislike the character, it is much easier to dispose of him or her and potentially keep that same group of viewers. That's just my little opinion. Sure, it is speculation but recent events just don't make any sense.


I think you nailed what TPTB are trying to do.

[manofsteel2009]

what is a TPTB??

[Twitch]

TPTB = The Powers That Be

Basically the Executive Producers, the guys in charge, the ones who decide the direction the show takes.

[Jory]

what is a TPTB??

The Powers That Be

[LoveHurts38]

^^I guess the Powers is not doing anything for Chloe right now.

[wolverine316]

You have to wonder if there are issues with Allison and TPTB. For any Angel fans there were rumors that Charisma Carpenter had issues with Joss Whedon and they totally destroyed her character in season 4.

[Kalista]

You have to wonder if there are issues with Allison and TPTB. For any Angel fans there were rumors that Charisma Carpenter had issues with Joss Whedon and they totally destroyed her character in season 4.

No one can really say for sure. I suspect their are other reasons for gutting her character.

[DeesRyche]

Jory:

I disagree to an extent re: some of your post. First I do find that Chloe suggesting that CK kill Lex is very OOC and is poor handling of her character.

However, re: some of the other stuff it's clear this season that Chloe's one time dream of being a star reporter is no longer her dream. As a fan of Chloe, I'm Ok with that. I mean, after all, she was pretty much using the DP this season for helping CK. She might as well make that a legitimate job and get paid for it.

I mean realistically if you were just canned from a job and you learned there was a story available....are you really going to run out and try to outscopp someone else? Realistically, no but this is SV. However, I find it quite believable that Chloe who's always had stars on her eyes about heros (CK and OQ come to mind) that she would give a call to her friend OQ to charter a plane.

As far as Lex being carved up vs. sex with Jimmy. C'mon? Lex fired her. Why should she care? Not saying she shoulld advocate for his death but in this instance, it might be that she needs to cuddle up with her boyfriend and feel loved rather than try and face a foe.

And for one I am little relieved that Chloe is finally being humanized. I was a little off put by her "holier than thou" attitude and that she could do no wrong while solving all the troubles of the world. It's nice to see Chloe taking care of Chloe for once. It helps me identify more with her. Early on the series Chloe was one of my top characters but then as of late I was getting a little miffed by how they handeled her.

I, for one, hope she becomes a hero in her own right with her ability and joins up with OQ's team.

[sherban1988]

Y'all do realise that the show is about Clark Kent, not Chloe Sullivan, yes?
Heck, she's not even in the core 3 of the show.
And anyway, it's not like they changed her all at once. It was a gradual change of the character all along season 7 (and even before that bit by bit). About the journalism thing... why is it so farfectched? People's dreams and hopes for life can change, y'know.
IMO, they're just trying to
A. Set her up for leaving, and perhaps make her departure tragic in certain ways (this isn't a saturday morning cartoon about huggy bears. not everyone gets a happy ending) or
B. Set her up for the role she'll have next season, which will be a smaller one, since she'll have to make room for the new big girl on the block, miss Lois Lane (Season 8 - the Lois and Clark of it all - official statement)

[RedKRules]

It´s doesn´t matter if she is or not part of the big three, no character should be screwed up, no matter the level of importance

[Alexander III]

I think that Chloe's character should get cancelled after this season and move Allison to "Heroes" and play as Hiro's girlfriend! YYYYAAAATTTAAA !!!!! :D

[RedKRules]

^^ I agree ......but I think she´d match better with PETER PETRELLI :D :lol: ... nothing against Hiroo ..... he´s sooo cute ....

[go_clo]

lol totally! Heroes would do her character justice! :D

Ya I think she would be good with Peter...Although I really did like his new Irish girl Caitlin...she reminded me of Chloe in a way lol!

And Aww Hiro is totally cute! I wish Charlie hadn't died, they were adorable!

[Alexander III]

We should have a thread voting whose Chloe matched better with, "Peter" or "Hiro" :lol::rotfl:

[GuardianAngel]

We should have a thread voting whose Chloe matched better with, "Peter" or "Hiro" :lol::rotfl:

or Ando. :lol:

[RedKRules]

I love your Avi Rick ^^ .... Ando ???? :lol: :lol:

[go_clo]

Heck just add all the Heroes men in there! :lol:

Man that would be a popular topic! :rotfl:

[RedKRules]

lol totally! Heroes would do her character justice! :D

Ya I think she would be good with Peter...Although I really did like his new Irish girl Caitlin...she reminded me of Chloe in a way lol!

And Aww Hiro is totally cute! I wish Charlie hadn't died, they were adorable!

Totally agree with this ......

Yes that was so sad ....... :( ..

btw what are we discussing again ? :lol::lol::lol:

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Heck just add all the Heroes men in there! :lol:

Man that would be a popular topic! :rotfl:

:rotfl::rotfl: Good idea ....

[GuardianAngel]

I love your Avi Rick ^^ .... Ando ???? :lol: :lol:

I really like yours, RedKRules!

[Alexander III]

Then how about matching Clark w/ Claire? :rotfl::lol:
And best of all, match that crazy Lana w/ insane Sylar. That's a perfect couple :eek:

[GuardianAngel]

Then how about matching Clark w/ Claire? :rotfl::lol:
And best of all, match that crazy Lana w/ insane Sylar. That's a perfect couple :eek:

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[Rockgod30]

Chloe Sullivan

The character that WAS central to the show Smallville itself besides Clark. She has been in nearly EVERY episode.

In high school she was editor of the Torch, the person who was at once a friend to Clark and the one who could expose his secret to the world. TPTB(The powers that Be) have purposely dumped on her character for years.

It started right after the Spring Formal Dance when Chloe's nightmare came true and Clark said he would not let it happen. Instead it did.

Get Clark and Chloe close together and then yank them a part. It was a sick game developed from that point on. I could list episode after episode of this happening.

FEVER, BLANK, VESSEL and so on.

It was like a joke. A sick joke on the fans of Chloe Sullivan and the man who is to become Superman.

We get some episodes that are beyond awesome like JUSTICE and then thrown back into Siberia Nuclear Winter with episodes like SLEEPER.

TPTB hold the yo-yo string and we are the yo-yos. Clois fans be warned, if TPTB are like this with Chloe Sullivan, if Allison leaves the show Lois will be their new target. Lois & Clark the TV show was all about getting Clark and Lois close and then yanking it away. They (Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher) however did it well and believably executed why they did not get together right away. I hold out no hope for Smallville.

Chloe Sullivan is an original character. When I saw her for the first time sitting and talking with Clark I had NO IDEA that she was going to become my favorite on the show. She was just Clark's friend who knew him well enough to predict his quirks. Like not being able to get within 10 feet of Lana Lang without making a fool of himself.

I loved that she was the one to investigate the mysteries of Smallville. The meteor capital of the world. The all the strange happenings after the meteor shower and discovering that the meteor rocks were giving the citizens of Smallville strange powers.

As time went on we discovered that Chloe had a crush on Clark. Episodes like RUSH made that clear. And started to tease us that Clark and Chloe MIGHT become a couple. That was just the yo-yo getting wound up.

Life went on. A new character was brought onto the show. Lois Lane. That as fine. Lex Luthor was already there, why not Lois too.

Then it happened. Chloe discovered Clark's secret. Right in front of her was the mystery of Clark Kent. Alicia Baker, who swore she would never reveal Clark's secret had shown Chloe Sullivan what Clark had been hiding for years.

Alicia did not know Chloe's character very well. She did not use her 'poison pen' to out Clark. Instead she waited for Clark to tell her himself. Which he never did. From that point on Chloe covered for Clark.

The Episode BLANK, made Chloe Sullivan even better to me, and Clark more like a bumbling fool when he did not realize that SHE KNEW. How could he not know. I mean, no memory, his mother was out of town, Pete wasn't there and the next thing he remembers is Chloe on the table strapped down with him protecting her. Can't get more obvious than that, that she was protecting him.

So Clark goes back to not caring if he was ignorant of who knew his secret. Life went on.

About this point Chloe Sullivan has saved Clark as many times as he has saved her.

The worst Chloe Sullivan and Clark Kent moment where they literally SHOW TPTB stringing us along is DEVOTED. Ugh, that was painful to watch. Everything yanked way by Clark's declaration. Just like that. That right there told me what TPTB thought of Chloe Sullivan next to Lois Lane. Worst than Trash, lower than scum, and can be dumped on every week.

Then we get ARRIVAL. Clark finds out that Chloe Sullivan has known his secret for a long time. Again we get a great episode HIDDEN where we get reeled in again. That lead up to the KISS in VESSEL. The string was TIGHT again. So close. Then ZOD happens and a new character joins the Smallville team. Jimmy Olsen. That yanked Chloe Sullivan way from Clark so fast and left Clark ALONE the rest of the season.

At this point the yo-yoers (TPTB) have messed up and the yo-yo is losing strength. It never reaches were it once did. Three quarters of the way (FREAK), half way (BIZZARO), then a quarter (TRAVELER). Yet the strength of the character is never the same again.

Lex Luthor now owns the Daily Planet, Chloe starts to loose her desire it seems to work at the Daily Planet. Her dream since day 1 and starts to go completely against her character. She is increasingly isolated. When was the last time she hung out with Lois Lane? Lois is now brought into play. Chloe is being faded out. A washed out has been and never was compared the MIGHT that is Lois Lane.

Chloe Sullivan's character is being destroyed to possibly set up the New Lois and Clark show. Maybe TPTB are just making what Chloe has feared her whole life finally a reality. That she will go crazy. That she has lost her mental faculties and has lost her mind in some delusion that is as bad as Lex Luthor. Like mother, like daughter. Chloe thinks that Clark is God, and that is why she is devoted to him.

Yep lose her mind and Clark would have to choose between seeing his catatonic girlfriend or his crazy best friend in an institution.

That would be so sad. All that development and investment in a character, just to flush it all down the drain.

To HELL with THAT! Unlike the Chloe the show is portraying I refuse to accept that is all there is. If she is not brought back on track, there will be those in the future that can and will help her character come alive again. She has been brought back twice from the dead. It can happen again after this character assassination.

~Rockgod30

[Alexander III]

Wow....that's a longass post :eek:

[colonyofcells]

If Chloe is still saving Clark, it is not all that bad.

[RedKRules]

Then how about matching Clark w/ Claire?

No, No, No, Clark needs someone like Nikki .... :lol::lol: she´d beat him everyday ...

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Chloe Sullivan

The character that WAS central to the show Smallville itself besides Clark. She has been in nearly EVERY episode.

In high school she was editor of the Torch, the person who was at once a friend to Clark and the one who could expose his secret to the world. TPTB(The powers that Be) have purposely dumped on her character for years.

It started right after the Spring Formal Dance when Chloe's nightmare came true and Clark said he would not let it happen. Instead it did.

Get Clark and Chloe close together and then yank them a part. It was a sick game developed from that point on. I could list episode after episode of this happening.

FEVER, BLANK, VESSEL and so on.

It was like a joke. A sick joke on the fans of Chloe Sullivan and the man who is to become Superman.

We get some episodes that are beyond awesome like JUSTICE and then thrown back into Siberia Nuclear Winter with episodes like SLEEPER.

TPTB hold the yo-yo string and we are the yo-yos. Clois fans be warned, if TPTB are like this with Chloe Sullivan, if Allison leaves the show Lois will be their new target. Lois & Clark the TV show was all about getting Clark and Lois close and then yanking it away. They (Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher) however did it well and believably executed why they did not get together right away. I hold out no hope for Smallville.

Chloe Sullivan is an original character. When I saw her for the first time sitting and talking with Clark I had NO IDEA that she was going to become my favorite on the show. She was just Clark's friend who knew him well enough to predict his quirks. Like not being able to get within 10 feet of Lana Lang without making a fool of himself.

I loved that she was the one to investigate the mysteries of Smallville. The meteor capital of the world. The all the strange happenings after the meteor shower and discovering that the meteor rocks were giving the citizens of Smallville strange powers.

As time went on we discovered that Chloe had a crush on Clark. Episodes like RUSH made that clear. And started to tease us that Clark and Chloe MIGHT become a couple. That was just the yo-yo getting wound up.

Life went on. A new character was brought onto the show. Lois Lane. That as fine. Lex Luthor was already there, why not Lois too.

Then it happened. Chloe discovered Clark's secret. Right in front of her was the mystery of Clark Kent. Alicia Baker, who swore she would never reveal Clark's secret had shown Chloe Sullivan what Clark had been hiding for years.

Alicia did not know Chloe's character very well. She did not use her 'poison pen' to out Clark. Instead she waited for Clark to tell her himself. Which he never did. From that point on Chloe covered for Clark.

The Episode BLANK, made Chloe Sullivan even better to me, and Clark more like a bumbling fool when he did not realize that SHE KNEW. How could he not know. I mean, no memory, his mother was out of town, Pete wasn't there and the next thing he remembers is Chloe on the table strapped down with him protecting her. Can't get more obvious than that, that she was protecting him.

So Clark goes back to not caring if he was ignorant of who knew his secret. Life went on.

About this point Chloe Sullivan has saved Clark as many times as he has saved her.

The worst Chloe Sullivan and Clark Kent moment where they literally SHOW TPTB stringing us along is DEVOTED. Ugh, that was painful to watch. Everything yanked way by Clark's declaration. Just like that. That right there told me what TPTB thought of Chloe Sullivan next to Lois Lane. Worst than Trash, lower than scum, and can be dumped on every week.

Then we get ARRIVAL. Clark finds out that Chloe Sullivan has known his secret for a long time. Again we get a great episode HIDDEN where we get reeled in again. That lead up to the KISS in VESSEL. The string was TIGHT again. So close. Then ZOD happens and a new character joins the Smallville team. Jimmy Olsen. That yanked Chloe Sullivan way from Clark so fast and left Clark ALONE the rest of the season.

At this point the yo-yoers (TPTB) have messed up and the yo-yo is losing strength. It never reaches were it once did. Three quarters of the way (FREAK), half way (BIZZARO), then a quarter (TRAVELER). Yet the strength of the character is never the same again.

Lex Luthor now owns the Daily Planet, Chloe starts to loose her desire it seems to work at the Daily Planet. Her dream since day 1 and starts to go completely against her character. She is increasingly isolated. When was the last time she hung out with Lois Lane? Lois is now brought into play. Chloe is being faded out. A washed out has been and never was compared the MIGHT that is Lois Lane.

Chloe Sullivan's character is being destroyed to possibly set up the New Lois and Clark show. Maybe TPTB are just making what Chloe has feared her whole life finally a reality. That she will go crazy. That she has lost her mental faculties and has lost her mind in some delusion that is as bad as Lex Luthor. Like mother, like daughter. Chloe thinks that Clark is God, and that is why she is devoted to him.

Yep lose her mind and Clark would have to choose between seeing his catatonic girlfriend or his crazy best friend in an institution.

That would be so sad. All that development and investment in a character, just to flush it all down the drain.

To HELL with THAT! Unlike the Chloe the show is portraying I refuse to accept that is all there is. If she is not brought back on track, there will be those in the future that can and will help her character come alive again. She has been brought back twice from the dead. It can happen again after this character assassination.

~Rockgod30

I agree,
I think they don´t know what to do with her character, they never thought, she´d get this far, and be so known and loved ... they´re trapped .....

I only hope they do the right thing, and give her the end she deserves and earned through these years ... :(:rolleyes::\:o

[dru-zod2501]

Chloe Sullivan

The character that WAS central to the show Smallville itself besides Clark. She has been in nearly EVERY episode.

In high school she was editor of the Torch, the person who was at once a friend to Clark and the one who could expose his secret to the world. TPTB(The powers that Be) have purposely dumped on her character for years.

It started right after the Spring Formal Dance when Chloe's nightmare came true and Clark said he would not let it happen. Instead it did.

Get Clark and Chloe close together and then yank them a part. It was a sick game developed from that point on. I could list episode after episode of this happening.

FEVER, BLANK, VESSEL and so on.

It was like a joke. A sick joke on the fans of Chloe Sullivan and the man who is to become Superman.

We get some episodes that are beyond awesome like JUSTICE and then thrown back into Siberia Nuclear Winter with episodes like SLEEPER.

TPTB hold the yo-yo string and we are the yo-yos. Clois fans be warned, if TPTB are like this with Chloe Sullivan, if Allison leaves the show Lois will be their new target. Lois & Clark the TV show was all about getting Clark and Lois close and then yanking it away. They (Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher) however did it well and believably executed why they did not get together right away. I hold out no hope for Smallville.

Chloe Sullivan is an original character. When I saw her for the first time sitting and talking with Clark I had NO IDEA that she was going to become my favorite on the show. She was just Clark's friend who knew him well enough to predict his quirks. Like not being able to get within 10 feet of Lana Lang without making a fool of himself.

I loved that she was the one to investigate the mysteries of Smallville. The meteor capital of the world. The all the strange happenings after the meteor shower and discovering that the meteor rocks were giving the citizens of Smallville strange powers.

As time went on we discovered that Chloe had a crush on Clark. Episodes like RUSH made that clear. And started to tease us that Clark and Chloe MIGHT become a couple. That was just the yo-yo getting wound up.

Life went on. A new character was brought onto the show. Lois Lane. That as fine. Lex Luthor was already there, why not Lois too.

Then it happened. Chloe discovered Clark's secret. Right in front of her was the mystery of Clark Kent. Alicia Baker, who swore she would never reveal Clark's secret had shown Chloe Sullivan what Clark had been hiding for years.

Alicia did not know Chloe's character very well. She did not use her 'poison pen' to out Clark. Instead she waited for Clark to tell her himself. Which he never did. From that point on Chloe covered for Clark.

The Episode BLANK, made Chloe Sullivan even better to me, and Clark more like a bumbling fool when he did not realize that SHE KNEW. How could he not know. I mean, no memory, his mother was out of town, Pete wasn't there and the next thing he remembers is Chloe on the table strapped down with him protecting her. Can't get more obvious than that, that she was protecting him.

So Clark goes back to not caring if he was ignorant of who knew his secret. Life went on.

About this point Chloe Sullivan has saved Clark as many times as he has saved her.

The worst Chloe Sullivan and Clark Kent moment where they literally SHOW TPTB stringing us along is DEVOTED. Ugh, that was painful to watch. Everything yanked way by Clark's declaration. Just like that. That right there told me what TPTB thought of Chloe Sullivan next to Lois Lane. Worst than Trash, lower than scum, and can be dumped on every week.

Then we get ARRIVAL. Clark finds out that Chloe Sullivan has known his secret for a long time. Again we get a great episode HIDDEN where we get reeled in again. That lead up to the KISS in VESSEL. The string was TIGHT again. So close. Then ZOD happens and a new character joins the Smallville team. Jimmy Olsen. That yanked Chloe Sullivan way from Clark so fast and left Clark ALONE the rest of the season.

At this point the yo-yoers (TPTB) have messed up and the yo-yo is losing strength. It never reaches were it once did. Three quarters of the way (FREAK), half way (BIZZARO), then a quarter (TRAVELER). Yet the strength of the character is never the same again.

Lex Luthor now owns the Daily Planet, Chloe starts to loose her desire it seems to work at the Daily Planet. Her dream since day 1 and starts to go completely against her character. She is increasingly isolated. When was the last time she hung out with Lois Lane? Lois is now brought into play. Chloe is being faded out. A washed out has been and never was compared the MIGHT that is Lois Lane.

Chloe Sullivan's character is being destroyed to possibly set up the New Lois and Clark show. Maybe TPTB are just making what Chloe has feared her whole life finally a reality. That she will go crazy. That she has lost her mental faculties and has lost her mind in some delusion that is as bad as Lex Luthor. Like mother, like daughter. Chloe thinks that Clark is God, and that is why she is devoted to him.

Yep lose her mind and Clark would have to choose between seeing his catatonic girlfriend or his crazy best friend in an institution.

That would be so sad. All that development and investment in a character, just to flush it all down the drain.

To HELL with THAT! Unlike the Chloe the show is portraying I refuse to accept that is all there is. If she is not brought back on track, there will be those in the future that can and will help her character come alive again. She has been brought back twice from the dead. It can happen again after this character assassination.

~Rockgod30
*applause* *applause* beautiful. so true... this sick game has worn on my nerves for far too long. This is the first time I've ever seriously considered stopping watching. At this point it's not even about chlark any more, it's about respecting Chloe and giving her exactly what she deserves, which obviously TPTB could give a crap less about... sigh...

[DGirlLois4Clark]

Come on guys, what do u expect. Unlike alot of the characters on the show they CREATED Chloe's character and therefore can do whatever they please with her. I hate to be brutal but, the character's future is one of the only unclear ones and non canon. U guys should be grateful that they have written her character so well, over the years.

Who do you think wrote her initial storylines to begin? Who wrote all the things you love about the character? They DIDNT HAVE TO MAKE HER JOIN THE DP, THEY DIDNT HAVE TO MAKE HER CLARK'S CONFIDANTE OR ANYTHING ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. And yet they did, to satisfy her fans.

You guys have to understand that they need to write the character off soon because, we all know Superman doesnt have Chloe in the future. Neither is she mentioned or involved in future events. Enjoy the ride cuz really and truely, it has always been clear that she was ONLY a prototype of Lois Lane (since they couldnt have her, initially). They CREATED her to move the story along and connect certain things. Chloe was created to be an ultimate plot device/ connector. Sorry bt its the truth. (e.g. Lois coming to town, Introducing Clark and Lois to journalism/ DP, Introducing Jimmy, Finding and locating things for Clark, explaining things to the viewer..etc)

IMO, the writers have a beginning and an end for each and every character. Im sure whatever they do in the end with her character is going to be what they originally planned. I know this for sure:)

[Kalista]

That is a great post Rockgod30!

[chlo-el]

Come on guys, what do u expect. Unlike alot of the characters on the show they CREATED Chloe's character and therefore can do whatever they please with her. I hate to be brutal but, the character's future is one of the only unclear ones and non canon. U guys should be grateful that they have written her character so well, over the years.

Who do you think wrote her initial storylines to begin? Who wrote all the things you love about the character? They DIDNT HAVE TO MAKE HER JOIN THE DP, THEY DIDNT HAVE TO MAKE HER CLARK'S CONFIDANTE OR ANYTHING ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. And yet they did, to satisfy her fans.

You guys have to understand that they need to write the character off soon because, we all know Superman doesnt have Chloe in the future. Neither is she mentioned or involved in future events. Enjoy the ride cuz really and truely, it has always been clear that she was ONLY a prototype of Lois Lane (since they couldnt have her, initially). They CREATED her to move the story along and connect certain things. Chloe was created to be an ultimate plot device. Sorry bt its the truth. (e.g. Lois coming to town, Introducing Clark and Lois to journalism/ DP, Introducing Jimmy, Finding and locating things for Clark, explaining things to the viewer..etc)

IMO, the writers have a beginning and an end for each and every character. Im sure whatever they do in the end with her character is going to be what they originally planned. I know this for sure:)

How can you know that for sure when so much has changed and Al Miles are leaving.

[A_Chloe.S._Fan]

i love chloe, but i hate what the writers r doing 2 her. i think clark's secret has made her completely oblivious 2 everything but protecting him, and the writers r trying to emphasize that more than it actually is true. no matter what though, i'll always luv chloe no matter how much they screw her up!!

[DGirlLois4Clark]

@ Chlo-el: Well, think about it this way. Every story has a beginning and an end.
With smallville..
Clark becomes Superman
Lex becomes Evil
Clana will ultimately end
Lois will become a star reporter..etc


The point of smallville was to show the journey / Tell a story. How and Why each of these characters become who they eventually become. Its almost impossible to write a good story if you dont have a clear view of its ending. Try write a story with no indication of its ending and you will see what I mean.

[go_clo]

btw what are we discussing again ? :lol::lol::lol:
We were discussing something else? :eek: Well we are in the Smallville forum...so it must be that....whats Smallville again?! :lol:


Then how about matching Clark w/ Claire? :rotfl::lol:
And best of all, match that crazy Lana w/ insane Sylar. That's a perfect couple :eek:
I can't see Clark and Claire together....However I can't completely write them off as a bad character. At least Clark wouldn't have to worry about hurting her! :p

OMG Lana and Sylar! I could sooo see that! :rotfl:


No, No, No, Clark needs someone like Nikki .... :lol::lol: she´d beat him everyday ...
:rotfl: Definately! She could maybe slap some sense into that BDA skull of his! :lol:


Come on guys, what do u expect. Unlike alot of the characters on the show they CREATED Chloe's character and therefore can do whatever they please with her. I hate to be brutal but, the character's future is one of the only unclear ones and non canon. U guys should be grateful that they have written her character so well, over the years.

Who do you think wrote her initial storylines to begin? Who wrote all the things you love about the character? They DIDNT HAVE TO MAKE HER JOIN THE DP, THEY DIDNT HAVE TO MAKE HER CLARK'S CONFIDANTE OR ANYTHING ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. And yet they did, to satisfy her fans.

You guys have to understand that they need to write the character off soon because, we all know Superman doesnt have Chloe in the future. Neither is she mentioned or involved in future events. Enjoy the ride cuz really and truely, it has always been clear that she was ONLY a prototype of Lois Lane (since they couldnt have her, initially). They CREATED her to move the story along and connect certain things. Chloe was created to be an ultimate plot device/ connector. Sorry bt its the truth. (e.g. Lois coming to town, Introducing Clark and Lois to journalism/ DP, Introducing Jimmy, Finding and locating things for Clark, explaining things to the viewer..etc)

IMO, the writers have a beginning and an end for each and every character. Im sure whatever they do in the end with her character is going to be what they originally planned. I know this for sure:)
You give the writers way too much credit. They aren't Amy-Sherman Palladino. They haven't had the last 2 lines of the show planned since day 1! I really don't think they knew what the end plan was and even if they did, they are now gone! Things have changed and that can either be really great or really bad for our girl friday! :\

Rockgod30 Amaaaaazing post! Seriously awesome! I totally agree with every single word! :o

[chlo-el]

Well, think about it this way. Every story has a beginning and an end.
With smallville..
Clark becomes Superman
Lex becomes Evil
Clana will ultimately end
Lois will become a star reporter..etc


The point of smallville was to show the journey. How and Why each of this character becomes who they are. Its almost impossible to write a good story if you dont have a clear view of its ending. Try write a story with no indication of its ending and you will see what I mean.

I agree that they had a plan from the begining for every charcter and this was to show their journey from who they were to who they would become but I don't think that they knew what they were going to do with Chloe from the begining and I doubt they were planning on Having Chloe's character end up in Jail I mean if this show was about the journey and end at the destination and Chloe's journey would end at jail. I doubt they planned on doing that from the begining.

Oh and I have written stories w/ no indication of the ending at first and I have been able to write pretty good stories they evolved and changed as the story went on. I think the best stories are the ones that evolve and are susprsing and are not what you expect.

[go_clo]

I agree that they had a plan from the begining for every charcter and this was to show their journey from who they were to who they would become but I don't think that they knew what they were going to do with Chloe from the begining and I doubt they were planning on Having Chloe's character end up in Jail I mean if this show was about the journey and end at the destination and Chloe's journey would end at jail. I doubt they planned on doing that from the begining.

Oh and I have written stories w/ no indication of the ending at first and I have been able to write pretty good stories they evolved and changed as the story went on. I think the best stories are the ones that evolve and are susprsing and are not what you expect.
Agreed!
Besides, even if this was their plan all along, I still have absolutely no respect for them what-so-ever. They lead us on like this, make us love this character to death just to end with our fave character in prison! They are pretty horrible people to keep stringing us on like this throwing us crumbs, just to throw a bolder at us in the end! :mad:

[DGirlLois4Clark]

^ yea, but your speakin from a reader's perspective. Every writer has an indication of where they want to end their story. Of course they can pro-long certain things and developments in between. E.g. Look at Lionel..im sure they have always had it in mind who kills him. What the writers probably left open to change is what leads Lex to kill his father. Not sure if you get my point.
Another example is, we all know Clana fails but what is left open to change is what leads to it. And another, Lois becomes a reporter but how did it happen.

As a fan of the show, i truely hope they give Chloe a great sending off, if she in fact doesnt return for season 8. She has become a valued character and deserves the best. They can actually have her become a hero:)

[Rockgod30]

**Super-punches boulder**

Think about this for a moment. Let us say that Chloe is made out to be CRAZY and that is the reason she gets Locked up.

This would seriously suck as an ending for her character. It is too late to paint Chloe as bad, flawed, or not worthy of Clark character or worthy character to exist in the SUPERMAN universe PERIOD. Like I said before the episode DEVOTED drew the line on how far the Chloe/Clark relationship would go. Even though they (TPTB) teased us with the MAYBE factor. Back-pocket girl indeed.

It is TPTB's own fault for making her so cool (WATCHTOWER), only for us to see blantant sabotaging now.

It is unfair, cruel, malicious and makes me not want to watch ANYTHING on the CW.

You don't take a character that has made such a positive difference in the world. A smart, independent, career driven woman, and then tear her to pieces after saving the world a few times. What type of message is the story trying to get across?

Abandon your friends when the going gets tough (Pete). That you will only get hurt and driven insane if you try to find out the truth (Lex), you have to break your own heart over and over again to show the one you love that you care about their happiness above your own (Chloe), and by actually being with the one you love you get hurt repeatedly to the point you are tortured mercilessly (Lana). And more.... Martha, Johnathan, Lionel, Jor-El, Lara, Kara, and others.

It is decending into drivel. It is sad and only the brief moments of Clark stepping up, or Chloe being a hero in tough situations makes the show worth it to watch.

Silly little scenes like dressing up Clark in a suit with glasses, or putting a Daily Planet badge on him (done that already), sweeping the heroine off her feet, making the last minute save, are they just going to repeat it all over again?

If this is a journey, is Clark ready at this point to be Superman? He has made A LOT of mistakes, but has he accepted that he needs to be something more than just mild-mannered?

Chloe has been pushing him from Day 1 to be better, reach higher, become stronger than trying to fit in to a normal life. Clark tries to be normal everyday out of fear. Fear of being discovered, fear of is abilities, fear of hurting anyone, fear of failure, fear, fear, fear, but, but, but until he has NO CHOICE except to do the right thing.

It took Jor-El recently showing Clark how bad the world needs him in the face of such evil like Brainiac and Lex Luthor.

How is bringing in new Villains going to somehow change his perspective if it hasn't already?

In the Superman mythos, it was the death of his father, Johnathan that prompted Clark to seek out a direction in his life to be more than just a regular man with special abilities. This time in Smallville when his father died, it made Clark regress. He folded in on himself. It wasn't until after ignoring events with the stones became impossible that he did something about it. Again it was Chloe to save the day and prevent Lex from finding out about his secret, and save the world.

It is so hard to watch Chloe get mutilated.

The image of her on Lex's computer screen in FREAK, being pricked, kidnapped KGB style, tortured, tagged and mind-wiped is how she is being treated right now. Exactly how she is being treated.

Again showing why the character of Chloe Sullivan is so AWESOME is when she begged Clark to scan her then take the device implanted in her out. That was INTENSE! It was COOL! And BRAVE! It showed complete trust. Yet all of that means NOTHING! All a part of the yo-yo, the tortured, tragic life that is Chloe Sullivan.

Life is unfair. Especailly for Chloe. It is shown that without Clark in her life she is happy. Never knowing him her life was whole and well, but she wasn't given a choice. If she knew all the amazing things she would do and see and know, which life would Chloe Sullivan choose? A life with George, peaceful, somewhat exciting, living her dream job, and about to be married. Or would she choose saving the world, being there for her friends, to protect them, keep the world safe from Lex Luthor, Brainiac, and other evil people in the world. Would she choose to be friends with Oliver Queen, and AC and Vic, and Bart?

The Chloe Sullivan we know would choose to give up all that happiness in order to make a differnece in the world. That is just who she is. It would even save George, where ever he is in the real world of Smallville, as well.

So assissinating her character makes little sense. It is too late. There is an AMAZING character that has existed for seven years. Even if they finally get rid of her or kill her off, again it is too late.

~Rockgod30

[LexLuv180]

I guess I'm the only one who thinks Chloe's development is still fine.

[Krypton935]

I guess I'm the only one who thinks Chloe's development is still fine.

No youre not I htink shes great I saw nothing wrong with her whatsoever

[Minela]

I guess I'm the only one who thinks Chloe's development is still fine.

You are not the only one. Ever consider that the writers hated how Chloe has been written in this inhumanly saint manner, just like some anti-Chloe fans? Yes we are out there. The Anti Chloe movement exists. Maybe they are just trying to give her some color, make her more interesting? As far as I'm concerned her development has been at a still stand ever since the end of the fifth season and it is part of why I dislike her.

So, instead of thinking they are tying to sabotage her... maybe they are just trying to make her more interesting? Maybe you don't like where the development is going, but there is nothing there to suggest they are doing it out of some spite to make people dislike her. I mean, she has pretty much been written as a hero, she rescued Clark, she works for the JLA, she has some mad skills with the computer, etc. Not journalist, doesn't equal "next villain to be hated" IMO.

I personally don't think this is her last season and if she is to be a part of the next chapter she must be revamped or it would become boring. And who is to say that her development won't be for the better, and it might even change my opinion of the character and I might start liking her.

I find it hard to believe that the writers would try to make any character look bad simply for the purpose of making another character look good. That would be highly pointless, IMO.

[AndiGirl]

I just posted this in another thread...but I will just copy and paste it...since it basically tells you all how I feel on the matter! :)

I'm sorry people....but I think everyone is completely over reacting.
I dont think Chloe's character is ruined at all...or anything close. She is trying to look out for the best interest of her friend. Sometimes you have to stop looking at it as Chloe talking to the future superman,...and see it as a girl trying to save her best friend and the man that she loves. Are you all telling me none of you would act the same? I know I would.

I mean..look at what happend tonight. Jimmy (who by the way....did an excellent job tonight!!!) brought her some compelling evidence that pointed to the fact that it was going to come down to good vs. evil or...clark vs. Lex. That one wouldn't walk away. the picture of the man on the slab was accurate...so why shouldn't Chloe believe this could potentially be accurate as well??

I FULLY admitt, I dont want to see superman murder anyone...but it's either one person (lex) or potentially hundreds of people if Lex takes control of him. I actually found myself agreeing with Mr. Teague tonight. He was totally nuts...but right. Clark needs to learn to step up and do whats best for the greater good. He always just looks at the immediate picture. (hence why he was sitting in a hospital with lana instead of trying to help chloe bring down brainiac).

Which is why Chloe is sooooo important to the show. Clark has the view of a child almost...very much black and white. Where Chloe....is the gray area. She was just pointing out the opposite tonight. That if you dont kill lex....and he finds out you are the travellor....then you have to die. Either way....one of you has to go. Of course she would prefer Lex, who wouldnt?

As far as Chloe being with Jimmy still...and the other numerous reasons people feel Chloe's character is going down hill....is simple. It was obvious to me tonight, more then ever...that Chloe uses Jimmy as a release. I know....it's not right for Chloe to use the poor guy, but its not like he's kicking and screaming. The fact that Jimmy had news and Chloe wanted to have sex....kind of shows where Jimmy stands with her. He always comes up with crazy ideas...and chloe just wanted to (for once) take her mind off of that stuff... and thats what jimmy is for her. A brief escape from the daily apocalypse that is her life.

So...I'm sorry, but I have to respectfully disagree. I dont think Chloe's character is ruined or tainted. I honestly think...she just isnt the naive high school girl she was years ago. She knows life isnt fair...and sometimes sacrafices have to be made. Clark is the eternal optomist....he waits for problems to come screaming at his door before he does anything about them. But this problem (him being taken over) is something he cant stop. So chloe is basically telling him....he has options and a way to nip this in the bud before it becomes a problem. Like I said before....she has to play the devils advocate because clark is incapable of seeing anything in the gray area.

Dont yell!! haha. Just my thoughts.

[RepairmanBob]

Come on guys, what do u expect. Unlike alot of the characters on the show they CREATED Chloe's character and therefore can do whatever they please with her. I hate to be brutal but, the character's future is one of the only unclear ones and non canon. U guys should be grateful that they have written her character so well, over the years.

Who do you think wrote her initial storylines to begin? Who wrote all the things you love about the character? They DIDNT HAVE TO MAKE HER JOIN THE DP, THEY DIDNT HAVE TO MAKE HER CLARK'S CONFIDANTE OR ANYTHING ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. And yet they did, to satisfy her fans.

You guys have to understand that they need to write the character off soon because, we all know Superman doesnt have Chloe in the future. Neither is she mentioned or involved in future events. Enjoy the ride cuz really and truely, it has always been clear that she was ONLY a prototype of Lois Lane (since they couldnt have her, initially). They CREATED her to move the story along and connect certain things. Chloe was created to be an ultimate plot device/ connector. Sorry bt its the truth. (e.g. Lois coming to town, Introducing Clark and Lois to journalism/ DP, Introducing Jimmy, Finding and locating things for Clark, explaining things to the viewer..etc)

IMO, the writers have a beginning and an end for each and every character. Im sure whatever they do in the end with her character is going to be what they originally planned. I know this for sure:) I am glad you have so much fair in the writers. Of course, these are the same writers who just pulled the entire Veritas arc out of their collected asses and thought wasting an episode on Jimmy Bond was a good idea. Al has proudly admitted that they have no idea of how they will deal with the consequences of the season finales in the first episode of the new season.

More to the point, after seen years, I am invested in Chloe's story. I want to see how it ends, and I do not consider her a simple plot device. I do not feel that I should be grateful that the writers created such a cool character, just so they could break her down. Instead, I feel pissed off that Chloe is being systematically destroyed, and that AM's last episode may be wasted. YMMV.
I find it hard to believe that the writers would try to make any character look bad simply for the purpose of making another character look good. That would be highly pointless, IMO.<!-- / message -->There is a precedent - they did it to Chloe in season two in an effort to make the fans love Lana. It is also worth considering that Lois got into the Daily Planet at the same time that Chloe stopped working as a reporter and became Chloogle almost exclusively.
So, instead of thinking they are tying to sabotage her... maybe they are just trying to make her more interesting?What development? Sure, I am getting tired of Chloe being Chloogle or Clark's brain, so I would understand if they cut that back and make it more like a team of equals. But the "developments" we have seen this year include:

- The stupid meteor freak power, which was mastered (in terms of accepting herself and mastering her power) offscreen
- Decreased professional ambition
- Decreased passion for her job
- No response to losing her dream job
- Pining for Jimmy freakin's Olson
- Doing even more work as Clark's brain than ever

How is Chloe more human? Does does showing a Borg-like indifference to anything but Jimmy's jimmy or Clark make Chloe a more well-rounded person? I don't get it.

[Honey45]

I'm sure I will get a lot of flack for this.. but I just want to say..

It's weird how, when Chloe does something wrong, it's "the writers are making Chloe mean" or "TPTB are writing her out of character". People blame it on the writers.

But when Lana does something wrong, it's "Lana is crazy" or "Lana is a [so-and-so]". People blame the character.

I don't know.. just something I've noticed that is kind of odd.

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

I'm a newbie but I am a big Chloe fan and I think the post by Andiegirl makes a lot of sense... But I do have some mixed feelings. I hate that she totally gave up on her dream of journalism and didn't even look back at the DP. But you never know maybe the writers have something in store for her that fits the Chloe we all love and Know. But if they attempt to demolish her character my making her crazy or something like her mother, that would be the end of SV for me. I highly doubt that their going to head in that path though. But I really want her back for season 8, its already depressing enough that MR is gone and yeah...KK is leaving. I think Chloe should be showing her cuz about the journalistic ropes instead of attempting to always put some sense into BDA (I still love him). All in all I love Chloe she is a pivotal character to the show I just hope they don't screw her up. By the way anyone know the update on whether she's staying for season 8?

[MozartRequiem]

"First I do find that Chloe suggesting that CK kill Lex is very OOC and is poor handling of her character."

In "Nemesis", she was willing to let Lex die in the caves, but she realized Clark couldn't do that. I don't think this is out of character at all. She makes a good point: Lex destroying the world would be far worse for all the innocent lives that would be destroyed than Clark taking Lex's life, Lex who has murdered legions of people and will continue to do so to get what he wants.

Chloe was clearly hesitant at the thought of the idea, but it shows us that she is three-dimensional. She's not just all "black and white". CLARK is SUPPOSED to be the only character who sees the world that way. That is a huge part of what makes him Superman. Whether it's wrong or right, that is the Clark Kent character, and in order to highlight what makes him so unique, other characters need to, at times, question that.

"As far as Lex being carved up vs. sex with Jimmy. C'mon? Lex fired her. Why should she care? Not saying she shoulld advocate for his death but in this instance, it might be that she needs to cuddle up with her boyfriend and feel loved rather than try and face a foe.

And for one I am little relieved that Chloe is finally being humanized. I was a little off put by her "holier than thou" attitude and that she could do no wrong while solving all the troubles of the world. It's nice to see Chloe taking care of Chloe for once. It helps me identify more with her. Early on the series Chloe was one of my top characters but then as of late I was getting a little miffed by how they handeled her.

I, for one, hope she becomes a hero in her own right with her ability and joins up with OQ's team."

Agreed. Great points. We all get tired and are sometimes just in the mood for some affection, even if something we're usually passionate about is on the table. The thing is, Chloe really doesn't care for Lex. Even Clark didn't really care at first when he heard that Lex was hurt. So Chloe just wants a few moments of time to spend with her boyfriend for once. She has to worry about life and death situations 24/7. It's refreshing (and very hot ;)) to see her wanting to take a break.

[Kalista]

I'm sure I will get a lot of flack for this.. but I just want to say..

It's weird how, when Chloe does something wrong, it's "the writers are making Chloe mean" or "TPTB are writing her out of character". People blame it on the writers.

But when Lana does something wrong, it's "Lana is crazy" or "Lana is a [so-and-so]". People blame the character.

I don't know.. just something I've noticed that is kind of odd.

I didn't know that Lana ever did anything wrong. I thought she was always justified in her actions. *shrugs* But anyway, the writers are responsible for systematically destroying the characters.


----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

Great post, RepairmanBob! You summed the matter up nicely. The writers felt that they had to make Chloe look bad in an effort to elevate a character who has been looking really bad for quite some time.

[chlo-el]

"First I do find that Chloe suggesting that CK kill Lex is very OOC and is poor handling of her character."

In "Nemesis", she was willing to let Lex die in the caves, but she realized Clark couldn't do that. I don't think this is out of character at all. She makes a good point: Lex destroying the world would be far worse for all the innocent lives that would be destroyed than Clark taking Lex's life, Lex who has murdered legions of people and will continue to do so to get what he wants.

Chloe was clearly hesitant at the thought of the idea, but it shows us that she is three-dimensional. She's not just all "black and white". CLARK is SUPPOSED to be the only character who sees the world that way. That is a huge part of what makes him Superman. Whether it's wrong or right, that is the Clark Kent character, and in order to highlight what makes him so unique, other characters need to, at times, question that.

"As far as Lex being carved up vs. sex with Jimmy. C'mon? Lex fired her. Why should she care? Not saying she shoulld advocate for his death but in this instance, it might be that she needs to cuddle up with her boyfriend and feel loved rather than try and face a foe.

And for one I am little relieved that Chloe is finally being humanized. I was a little off put by her "holier than thou" attitude and that she could do no wrong while solving all the troubles of the world. It's nice to see Chloe taking care of Chloe for once. It helps me identify more with her. Early on the series Chloe was one of my top characters but then as of late I was getting a little miffed by how they handeled her.

I, for one, hope she becomes a hero in her own right with her ability and joins up with OQ's team."

Agreed. Great points. We all get tired and are sometimes just in the mood for some affection, even if something we're usually passionate about is on the table. The thing is, Chloe really doesn't care for Lex. Even Clark didn't really care at first when he heard that Lex was hurt. So Chloe just wants a few moments of time to spend with her boyfriend for once. She has to worry about life and death situations 24/7. It's refreshing (and very hot ;)) to see her wanting to take a break.

Agreed. I don't think Chloe acted out of character. Or that they are using these things to destroy her character to make other characters look good. I think they have shown a girl who has to deal with an unbeleivable amount of repsonsibility. And she has to sacrafice so much for the sake of Clark and the world. They have shown her as a loyal friend who acts like it doesn't bother her that she lost her dream job because saving the world is more important then what she wanted ever since she was a little girl. And Jimmy is the only thing she can hold on to right now that is part of her own life and helps her relax a little from the weight of the wrold. But they had shown how her heroic life and protecting Clark's secret conflict with her normal life she is trying to hold on to.

It is sad that Chloe's life has to be sacrafacial and I hope that some how some way they can show better things happening for her. But at this point they haven't been destroying her charcter they had been showing more developement into a heroine's life and the complications that come with having that kind of life.

[LoveHurts38]

I'm sure I will get a lot of flack for this.. but I just want to say..

It's weird how, when Chloe does something wrong, it's "the writers are making Chloe mean" or "TPTB are writing her out of character". People blame it on the writers.

But when Lana does something wrong, it's "Lana is crazy" or "Lana is a [so-and-so]". People blame the character.

I don't know.. just something I've noticed that is kind of odd.


Well, I am glad Lana will be back to normal.

[DGirlLois4Clark]

I'm sure I will get a lot of flack for this.. but I just want to say..

It's weird how, when Chloe does something wrong, it's "the writers are making Chloe mean" or "TPTB are writing her out of character". People blame it on the writers.

But when Lana does something wrong, it's "Lana is crazy" or "Lana is a [so-and-so]". People blame the character.

I don't know.. just something I've noticed that is kind of odd.

Exactly.. The same with Lois. Its all her fault she is paired with certain guys.. But Chloe getting paired with Jimmy is the writer's fault:rolleyes:

[Diego*Chloe]

It appears that in--what could be-- Allison's last year TPTB are completely, and totally, tearing down the character of Chloe.

-First of all they have her getting demeaned at the Planet by Grant and they don't have her fighting back. This from the girl who took Kahn up on her challenge and proved Pauline wrong.

-Then they have her getting fired,and her response is "Oh well." When she was fired at the Torch she was pissed. The girl has wanted to be a reporter since she was 6 (see "Progeny"), and when she's (wrongfully) fired (by Lex) she's all ho-hum. You'd think that after 7 years of reporting, she'd be a little pissed off.

-Jimmy dumps her (after eyeing Kara,and licking his lips) in front of Chloe. Then he dumps Kara (after she gets amnesia) and Chloe takes him back. Then when they are together he looks down Lois' shirt,and takes a photo of Lois bending over, and Chloe's ok with that. Where's the old Chloe who would dump his ass?

-Lex gets carved up, and the girl who had a bunch of curiosity (she did say that Smallville was "Land of the weird,home of the strange") isn't the least bit curious and would rather have sex with Jimmy?!

-In "Vessel" she tells Clark that he "isn't a killer" but she's now implying that he should kill Lex!

WTF are they doing to Chloe? Are they intentionally tearing her down since this is/may be Allison's last year? I would've thought/hoped that TPTB would've given her better material,and a much better send off than jail in her (possible) final season. If TPTB are trying to get Allison back I can't see how assassinating Chloe's character will do the trick. Is this the network wanting people to turn against Chloe, like the WB tried in season 2? TPTB truly suck some serious booty. They couldn't write a better sendoff,and now they are tearing apart a popular character so that other characters will be liked more,imo. Morons.

Agree

and even though they were Chloe look like a total B!*ch in S2 i didn´t hate her
i fall in love more than S1 jeje

but your right that is not the Chloe that i love i mean if they were gonna bring Lois into the SV story why create Chloe? that is just stupid all the passion that Chloe had in seasons 1-3 suddenly pass to Lois i was like WTF??

[Mr.White]

Come on guys, what do u expect. Unlike alot of the characters on the show they CREATED Chloe's character and therefore can do whatever they please with her. I hate to be brutal but, the character's future is one of the only unclear ones and non canon. U guys should be grateful that they have written her character so well, over the years.

Who do you think wrote her initial storylines to begin? Who wrote all the things you love about the character? They DIDNT HAVE TO MAKE HER JOIN THE DP, THEY DIDNT HAVE TO MAKE HER CLARK'S CONFIDANTE OR ANYTHING ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. And yet they did, to satisfy her fans.

You guys have to understand that they need to write the character off soon because, we all know Superman doesnt have Chloe in the future. Neither is she mentioned or involved in future events. Enjoy the ride cuz really and truely, it has always been clear that she was ONLY a prototype of Lois Lane (since they couldnt have her, initially). They CREATED her to move the story along and connect certain things. Chloe was created to be an ultimate plot device/ connector. Sorry bt its the truth. (e.g. Lois coming to town, Introducing Clark and Lois to journalism/ DP, Introducing Jimmy, Finding and locating things for Clark, explaining things to the viewer..etc)

IMO, the writers have a beginning and an end for each and every character. Im sure whatever they do in the end with her character is going to be what they originally planned. I know this for sure:)

When compared to the other character they created for the show that wasn't in the comics, Whitney Fordham, Chloe comes off pretty well. She is still with the series. She has become a focal point to the show. And obviously she has a good loyal fanbase of her own. It is somewhat clear ALMiles loved the character they created and since she is going to be part of the show in season 8 , (She will play a big part now that they have given her superpowers) one can't say that her character has been destroyed or ruined. Far from it. The character of Chloe has been enhanced quite a bit and written and developed quite well. More so than the main character of the show has been by a country mile.