View Full Version : Kara's powers on Krypton
kyl-el
05-05-2008, 05:03 PM
When Clark arrived on Krypton we found out pretty quickly that he didn't have his powers anymore. Kara then saves the day by stabbing Brainiac with a spike of some sort. Up until this point it makes sense to me. But then Kara goes and lifts a huge boulder abover her head to smash Brainiac. How the heck is she supposed to pull that off? Shouldn't she be weak like Clark?
huked on foniks
05-05-2008, 05:49 PM
I think in smallville they made it so they were weaker, but still stronger than humans.
Stories I read said that Kryptonians were about as strong as humans on Earth.
Liarma
05-05-2008, 05:53 PM
but how the hell could she lift a boulder over her head? i don't know any chick on earth that could do that.
I dunno, some of those female bodybuilders are pretty jacked, I'll bet they could do it.
Then again, Kara ain't that big, so who knows. Maybe it's like one of those crazy adrenaline rush scenarios, like the moms who lift the cars off of their kids and whatever.
roccanater
05-05-2008, 06:59 PM
Well, it is Smallville, we should all just accept it.
Randy G.
05-05-2008, 07:45 PM
I caught that too. Sometimes I believe the fans pay closer attention to details & continuity, than the writers. It's sad to say, but that was just a stupid mistake on their part. With as many people that it takes to put out an episode, you'd think that one of them would've noticed that. Oh well. :\
christian_kryptonian
05-05-2008, 07:54 PM
I totally missed it, but that is kinda dumb. Oh well. At this point I am like everyone else. "Eh. It's Smallville" lol
Liarma
05-05-2008, 07:59 PM
I'm not that fussed on the matter, I just think they could have thought up something a bit better, because if Kara and Clark both have no powers, Clark is clearly stronger than Kara then he should have been able to fight Milton Fine easily
X-Terminator
05-06-2008, 02:56 AM
I don't think Kara had any superpowers when she was on Krypton. Yes, she was able to lift that rock, but we have no idea what kind of rock that was. Since it came from Krypton, maybe the rock has less density than the rocks here on Earth, making it much lighter than it looks. Also, I don't know what kind of gravity Krypton has, but if there is less gravity it makes lifting rocks also easier.
Theshadow129x
05-06-2008, 05:14 AM
I don't think Kara had any superpowers when she was on Krypton. Yes, she was able to lift that rock, but we have no idea what kind of rock that was. Since it came from Krypton, maybe the rock has less density than the rocks here on Earth, making it much lighter than it looks. Also, I don't know what kind of gravity Krypton has, but if there is less gravity it makes lifting rocks also easier.
Krypton was always written to have more gravity than earth which makes it more believable that a kryptonian can defy earths gravity as their body adjust to this planets atmosphere.
Thats said, i hate when peopel say "eh its smallville" because thats a cop-out of actually explaining whats going on. i mean if you said that there was still some energy left over in her from the yellow sun, then i would believe it but it was a huge freaking boulder and she was on the planet for a long time so her yellow energy level, if you will, could have been completely depleted. plus, clark had just arrived on the planet and had no power whatsoever to fight brainiac, the fact that she has more energy than him is just a huge plothole.
stenochick
05-06-2008, 06:03 AM
Don't underestimate the physical might of a woman hopped up on adrenaline protecting a baby from harm.:)
Not that I think the writers are aware of that phenomenom, but it is a proven fact that women possess a maternal instinct to do whatever it takes to protect a child, especially her child. In Blue or Lara (I get them confused), we learn that Kara was very close to Lara and her unborn and then newborn baby, Kal-el. She even named him.
I think what appears to be a plothole may be explained in Artic. If we read the spoilers, we can see that there is more going on in this story arc than we know right now. I have a feeling Kara's ability to pick up the boulder won't be explained, though. That is why I am going with maternal instinct explanation. I don't like plotholes.
Sweetie
05-06-2008, 06:56 AM
The writters don't pay attention to details like we do unfortunetly.That was a mistake from their part.But,it's not like they never make any :D
Yasise
05-06-2008, 07:06 AM
Krypton was always written to have more gravity than earth which makes it more believable that a kryptonian can defy earths gravity as their body adjust to this planets atmosphere.
Thats said, i hate when peopel say "eh its smallville" because thats a cop-out of actually explaining whats going on. i mean if you said that there was still some energy left over in her from the yellow sun, then i would believe it but it was a huge freaking boulder and she was on the planet for a long time so her yellow energy level, if you will, could have been completely depleted. plus, clark had just arrived on the planet and had no power whatsoever to fight brainiac, the fact that she has more energy than him is just a huge plothole.
yeah, you're right and actually Kara's lip bled after Brainiac hit her - so I just thought, she has no power at all. I was totally suprised not about the stabbing but when she lifted that huge rock to kill him.
And the next thing I was thinking either was that she couldn't kill him anyway, because he will just melt or dissolve into that black liquid again and "rebuilt" himself again later, right?
It was also weird, IMO , how Kara told Clark, that Milton Fine is dead or destroyed. It didn't convince me, so maybe he isn't dead at all....???
Because if he would have really been killed there, Lana must have been o.k. when they returned to earth....wow, it's really not so easy to figure that out I'm afraid ;)
krpto
05-06-2008, 08:28 AM
Don't underestimate the physical might of a woman hopped up on adrenaline protecting a baby from harm.:)
Not that I think the writers are aware of that phenomenom, but it is a proven fact that women possess a maternal instinct to do whatever it takes to protect a child, especially her child. In Blue or Lara (I get them confused), we learn that Kara was very close to Lara and her unborn and then newborn baby, Kal-el. She even named him.
I think what appears to be a plothole may be explained in Artic. If we read the spoilers, we can see that there is more going on in this story arc than we know right now. I have a feeling Kara's ability to pick up the boulder won't be explained, though. That is why I am going with maternal instinct explanation. I don't like plotholes.
Exactly adrenaline turns people into freaks of nature when someone they love is in danger. My mother who lets face it is probablly the weakest person in my family could lift our van off the ground if I or anyone she cared about was trapped under it.
kanamekun
05-06-2008, 08:30 AM
It's possible that wasn't Kara lifting the boulder... but Brainiac pretending to be Kara. He/it would still have superstrength, even on Krypton...
BABarracus
05-06-2008, 09:08 AM
Kryptonians are like batteries they store the power of the yellow sun and if they are instantly put under a red sun they dont loose all their powers right away they become weaker as time goes on
in the same respect superman takes a wile to charge up in power under the yellow sun he is not always at 100%
the sun isnt magic
TheLeague
05-06-2008, 11:10 AM
oh cmon! do some positive thinking before you post negatively on the writers or producers its clear that this scene was there for a reason
in my opinion it isnt far a stretch to believe that kara was actually brainiac at that point and the real kara was in the PZ ( this would explain her powers ) plus clark wouldnt have know because he was taking care of his baby self.
and also i dont think killing baby clark was brainiacs ultimate agenda ( which explains why brainara killed his own self )
please tell me someone else thought of this besides me :(
also on another note the reason for her being "injured" at the end of the episode could be that brainiac is low on "power" perhaps?
BABarracus
05-06-2008, 03:39 PM
oh cmon! do some positive thinking before you post negatively on the writers or producers its clear that this scene was there for a reason
in my opinion it isnt far a stretch to believe that kara was actually brainiac at that point and the real kara was in the PZ ( this would explain her powers ) plus clark wouldnt have know because he was taking care of his baby self.
and also i dont think killing baby clark was brainiacs ultimate agenda ( which explains why brainara killed his own self )
please tell me someone else thought of this besides me :(
also on another note the reason for her being "injured" at the end of the episode could be that brainiac is low on "power" perhaps?
this is probly true beucse he didnt need kara to travel back in time
but i wont speculat becuse it might turn in to spoilers
Hopefulsuicide
05-06-2008, 04:26 PM
i immediately wondered why she could lift the boulder... it was like two seconds after braniac said about the lack of yellow sun, and was a ridiculous oversight
I can't believe people are ignoring the maternal instinct thing, it's been posted several times already.
Yasise
05-07-2008, 04:24 AM
I can't believe people are ignoring the maternal instinct thing, it's been posted several times already.
sorry but in this case I don't believe in the maternal instinct of Kara either. what maternal instinct? Kara is his cousin and although she may love him, she's not his mother.
IMO, she had no powers at all, her lip was bleeding after Brainiac hit her.
I guess that maybe that wasn't Kara at all, who lift that rock, because when she told Clark, that Brainiac is dead/destroyed whatever, it didn't sound convincing. It seemed to me, that "she" only wanted to prevent Clark from going and checking it up by himself, as "she" was hiding something from him.
I don't believe that Brainiac is "destroyed" at all. How could he be? By being stabbed with that stick? He's able to change in that liquid state and recreate himself again easily.
Sorry, but only because that "maternal instinct" thing has been posted several times now doesn't have to mean that it's the only possibility or that it's true.
We all are actually just speculating about what might have happened in that scene, aren't we?;)
It's already been mentioned, she named him, she's quite attached to the baby.
Generally, if you find an explanation that's suitable you don't go around saying that they completely ****ed up.
Yasise
05-07-2008, 05:47 AM
.Generally, if you find an explanation that's suitable you don't go around saying that they completely ****ed up.
Did I say "they completely ****ed up" :confused:
ox007
05-07-2008, 06:11 AM
Yeah sure "maternal instinct" will solve all problems, but unfortunately it won't, you don't become superman that's for sure, you can gain some extra strength based on that but not too much, at least IMO, and no point in arguing about it now cause maybe we'll learn soon what really happend and that will prove who's right and who is wrong and maybe we're all wrong :)
stenochick
05-07-2008, 06:37 AM
I was being sarcastic about the maternal instinct in that it is the only plausible explanation as to how Kara could lift a boulder and fight brainiac as a kryptonian on krypton.
It is a real phenomenom, don't get me wrong.
In Kara's case, I think we will have to see Artic in order to have all the necessary information to determine where her super-strength came from in that scene. It doesn't make sense for her to be Brainiac at that point. Why would Brainiac fight himself? Why would Brainiac get up in the middle of the night for a swig of milk? Also, when she told Clark that she killed Brainiac, it did not sound convincing, just like Yasise stated. But was that intentional or LV's hollow acting?
In light of recent episode description spoilers for Artic, those Brainiac/Kara scenes at the end of Apocalypse do not make sense on the face of it. I will have to wait and watch Artic to know if it is a plothole or not.
tupacinaly
05-07-2008, 06:37 AM
I have a few points. Here goes:
1. kryptonians are more powerful than humans in some versions. just not as powerful as they are under a yellow sun. they are not invulnreble either hence the bleeding.
2. They would not have lost all theyr power instantly it wuld hve faded over time though kara was away longer than clark so maybe the clark should have been battling brainiac and kara should have dealt with baby kal el.
3. Braniac has thrown clark around like that on earth in previous eps.
4. Kara was not convincing sayin brainiac was destroyed but clak didnt look convinced either.
5. Wasnt it a bit strange the way kara held clarks hand and said shed always be there for him back at the farm. clark looked uncomfortable at that.
6. when kara fell ill at the end it could either she is braniac(but why would he be drinking milk) depowered by the time travel or the real kara infected somehow by brainiac.
all in all that episode gave me a lot of questions which i am hoping will be answered by the end of the season. I thought it was the best episode so far this season.
mkurz12
05-07-2008, 06:47 AM
She seemed to struggle quite a bit when she lifted the boulder/rock. Actually to me it looked more like a stalagmite or stalagtite that had been laying on the ground.
Also being that it was Krypton and they use Crystal Technology.... the crystal that grew the FOS used the minerals around it to grow. So who knows what the rock/crystal was made of. Maybe it wasn't THAT heavy. Add that to the adrenalin factor and it's doable.
tupacinaly
05-07-2008, 06:54 AM
she did seem to struggle but if it was a crystal and wasnt that heavy it wuldnt reall do that much damage to braniac. I honestly think we wl find out later just exactly what was going on.
Cl4rk_K3nt
05-07-2008, 07:40 AM
I don't think it was Kara, at all. I think Brainiac knew that Kara would contact Clark, so he set it up when he did come. Remember Brainiac can multiply (Hypnotic in S5) to changing shape probably isn't out of the question.
stenochick
05-07-2008, 08:23 AM
I don't think it was Kara, at all. I think Brainiac knew that Kara would contact Clark, so he set it up when he did come. Remember Brainiac can multiply (Hypnotic in S5) to changing shape probably isn't out of the question.
But why would Brainiac do battle with himself on Krypton and drink milk in the middle of the night at the Kent's? Those are the pieces that just don't fit for me.
kp1984
05-07-2008, 08:55 AM
Don't surprise me. I thought either she still had a little super strenght left or the gravity was weaker on krypton. I doubt Brainiac is desotryed though. Remember when Clark destoryed it a couple years ago and it made copies of itself. Maybe that's what it did. No wonder Brainiac was smiling when he was being destoryed. He knew that he made a couple of himself. This is why i think Lana got worst. He's like i'll show these kids.
Iritscen
05-07-2008, 09:18 AM
tupacinaly, you made some good points, but if you don't work a little harder on spelling & grammar ("clak"?), a lot of people will be unable to benefit from your thoughts because they won't read/understand them.
I actually assumed throughout that scene that Clark and Lara were still pretty strong -- just losing power fast as they spent time away from the yellow sun. But as was pointed out by others, the real plothole is that Lara seemed stronger than Clark even though she'd been away from the Solar system for so long. I'd have to watch the scene again, though, because I didn't think that Clark was shown as definitely being weaker than her, just that he was surprised by Brainiac, but I could be wrong.
ox007
05-07-2008, 02:38 PM
What if Brainiac has downloaded himself actually into Lana? Maybe that wouldn't be as stupid as I thought before posting this reply :) she's got worse because she's on the edge - meaning Brainiac, than she'll get better suddenly being really Brainiac - that would be interesting!
But if that were so I wouldn't know how to answer what happened to Kara? Maybe Brainiac did something to her too?
And of course my second thought is that Brainiac is in Kara, I don't think that Kara IS Brainiac (not buying fake Kara), but who knows...
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