Lex is just bad, and Clark has nothing to do with it!

[Nerial]

I just wanted to point out one good thing that came out of this episode--Clark Kent is not responsible for Lex Luthor turning into swine. Even without Clark there to "lie" to him, and not be his best buddy who won't share all his personal information (boo-hoo, Lex), the baldy still ends up bad.

So, finally, Clark can do what everyone has wanted him to do for a long time:

HE CAN STOP BLAMING HIMSELF FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S GONE WRONG WITH THE WORLD, ESPECIALLY LEX!!!!!!!!!!

Haha--the episode was worth that alone.

[Alexander III]

Blame it on his father Lionel. He was raised in his father's shadow.

[chlo-el]

In the end it was his choice. Other people factored a little.

But this proves it's not clark's fault. And it proves that clark was right in not rusting Lex w/ his secret look what happened with Kara. He would have just used Clark too and would have a plan in place to kill him if Clark ever got in his way.

[All about Clark]

I just wanted to point out one good thing that came out of this episode--Clark Kent is not responsible for Lex Luthor turning into swine. Even without Clark there to "lie" to him, and not be his best buddy who won't share all his personal information (boo-hoo, Lex), the baldy still ends up bad.

Well I always knew that Clark had nothing to do with Lex turning bad, if anything Clark's involvement in Lex's life only slowed the process down. But you are right, we now have the benefit of Clark knowing that he had nothing to do with Lex's downward spiral. And that is the most important thing, is that Clark has alot less guilt right now.

[SteveS]

Lex is a classic example of a combination of heredity and environment making him the man he is today.

[Thrill_Seeker]

I actually strongly beleive that because of clark, lex;s descent into darkenss was prolongued.
and obviously the writers know that too, for those people who think that the clex scene in the barn was them trying for some reconciliation,
which it was NOT, you obviously missed the point of the entire scene.

[wolverine316]

Hopefully this will prove the dunces on this board that Lex would have been evil with or without Clark on earth.

[LexLuv180]

I'm not saying he would have been evil or not evil w/Clark's trust. However, in this alternate reality Clark was never in his life at all, so how can we say if he would have been different or not? It's an alternate reality where everyone's lives took completely different paths.

[smallvillecrazygurl04]

Blame it on his father Lionel. He was raised in his father's shadow.

I totally agree, having to tolerate a father like Lionel Luthor really takes a toll on the type of person Lex became. I don't blame Lex whatsoever on the way he turned out, this was due to the fact that Lionel wanted power, and in order to gain that power he would manipulate those in order to achieve it; so Lex picked up on his father's trait and figured that you have to go to great lengths in order to gain acceptance and that power that Lionel had. I have to say that's one of things that Lionel always held over with Lex, the fact that he had that hold over him, just pushed Lex further into the darkness.

[sil3nt]

and braniac

[redeem147]

No, Clark's relationship with Lex in this AU didn't pull him over to the dark side. Brainiac's did.

And I still mostly blame Lionel, who would still have been an abusive father in this reality, and would have had Kara to dote over instead of Clark.

[Sweetie]

Of course,Lex had a bad father,grew up in a hostile environnement,had bad relationships and was surrounded by friends who didn't understand him or treat him like dirt but,at the end,only him takes the last decision about what he wants to do with his life.They are people in the real world who had a life just as bad as Lex and choose to stay on the right side.

[euterpe]

No, Clark's relationship with Lex in this AU didn't pull him over to the dark side. Brainiac's did.

And I still mostly blame Lionel, who would still have been an abusive father in this reality, and would have had Kara to dote over instead of Clark.

I agree. Although Clark alone was never the casue of Lex's turn to darkness, all this episode proves is that someone form Krypton still played a role in Lex's descent. Brainiac was manipulating Lex. He mentioned that Lex was going to be the vessel for Zod. So for all we know, Lex had already been "altered" as he was in 'Vessel' in preparation for Zod. This could have been affecting his judgment and behavior, just as it did with the Lex in 'Vessel'.

The only way we could know for sure what Lex would have become on his own, with only Lillian's and Lionel's influence, is if we saw an AU where no one from Krypton ever came to earth and intervened in his life.

[smallvillecrazygurl04]

Of course,Lex had a bad father,grew up in a hostile environnement,had bad relationships and was surrounded by friends who didn't understand him or treat him like dirt but,at the end,only him takes the last decision about what he wants to do with his life.They are people in the real world who had a life just as bad as Lex and choose to stay on the right side.

Well there's only so much emotional abuse you can toterate and Lex has learned that the hard way. That's true, maybe he could of just lived passed all of the times that Lionel has controlled him, but in the end.. the after effects are always going to be there reguardless on how much you want to forget. The scars are always going to be with Lex and even though he got rid of that part of his Life(meaning Lionel) it's always still going to make that impact on Lex.

Yeah, there maybe some people that can deal with what has happened in their life, and pick up and move on. But others, it isn't so easy... actually it's alot more difficult to just set aside the past and look towards the future; especially Lex out of all people, that never lets go of the past.. he allows the past to take a hold of himself, he's the type of person that relies on the past to get by, he will never forget what Lionel put him through.

I think that if Lex's life was lived differently, he wouldn't of been in this situation. He probably could of been a desent guy, but remind you.. if that was to happen than he would of never been the villian of the story. So, that kind of keeps things into perspective.

[All about Clark]

The kryptonian influence of Braniac did not turn Lex evil. Kara was the one to collect the stones, it was her fortress, and she was used by Lex to get the people to trust him because of his help with the meteor freaks. Also human blood still had to get on a stone for Braniac to arrive, that means Kara also had to deal with Braniac's minions as well. So IMO Lex's use of Kara using her to gain public status was an evil act, he held her alieness to gain his desires. So therefore, it wasn't Braniac who made Lex turn, he was already there. Again, that is the reason Braniac sellected him to be the vessle.