View Full Version : Kara sent to kill Clark?
smallvillelogan
05-02-2008, 01:44 PM
She mentioned this in the AU- "I was supposed to kill you." It looks like Zor-El sent Kara to Earth not to protect her baby cousin, but to destroy him and provide the way for her father to one day return to Earth and conquer it (as seen in Blue).
What do people think?
ginnyfan
05-02-2008, 01:55 PM
When I heard Supergirl would be on the show I hoped for that sort of storyline. Then Kara had secrets and MM didn't trust her. I don't know if that WAS real world Kara's true mission but it would have been cool. If it was, I don't think Zor-el had a chance to fully reveal it to her. Or maybe her spaceship didn't have a chance to tell her.
Also, Kara has a fortress?! LOL!
chlo-el
05-02-2008, 02:01 PM
I like the story line it's intersting. So in comics Kara was sent to kill Kal-el right? But was it like a misunderstanding or brainwashing thing or something?
All about Clark
05-02-2008, 02:02 PM
Remember that the blue crystal was to guide Kara and Clark got it before she did. I'm sure the blue crystal had instructed Kara to kill Clark and that she didn't get this instruction because of Clark intercepting the crystal.
Yasise
05-02-2008, 02:41 PM
Actually it would make sense. Zor-El didn't love his brother, why would he love Kal-El? And Kara loved her father till she learned the truth about him.
I don't think the Martian Manhunter was totally wrong about her. He even warned Clark and told him not to trust her.
I believe Kara's still more loyal to her father and his plans than she would ever be to Clark, but I guess we will have to wait and see what's going to happen in the future.
chlo-el
05-02-2008, 02:43 PM
I wonder if Kara really killed those people who were around her ship now in the ep Kara.
Alexander III
05-02-2008, 03:47 PM
Ummm...I was wondering, if she's sent to earth to kill Clark, how's she gonna kill him? She can't use kryponite to kill him, she can't brutelly beat the crap out of him coz they have even strength. I guess the only way is to trick Clark into wearing the blue K ring, without his power Kara can killllllllllllll him.
magnumcb
05-02-2008, 10:09 PM
I found that a little interesting. I realize that this was the case if Clark hadn't made it to earth, but whether he made it to earth or not, how would that have changed? If she was meant to kill Clark, whether he made it to earth or not shouldnt have made any difference. Can anybody clear that up for me?
clarkbunny
05-02-2008, 10:25 PM
well she can't kill him if he's not on earth, so I guess she gave up on that particular mission a long time ago but Clark was very easily able to convince her not to kill him and instead join forces with him which was a bit strange
Servayne
05-02-2008, 10:36 PM
I found that a little strange as well. Wouldn't Kara have been sent with the same reason - to protect Kal-El? She was found by Lionel right where her ship was with Clark there so... kind of confused by it.
LexLuv180
05-03-2008, 12:32 AM
IN some of the comics she was sent to kill Kal-El, but changed her mind when reaching Earth and finding out that had been her mission. In Smallville world I take it Zor-El was going to kill Kal-El and take over the fortress, having his daughter with him already and the cloned Lara.
Yasise
05-03-2008, 01:56 AM
I wonder if Kara really killed those people who were around her ship now in the ep Kara.
Huh? I always thought the people who took her ship killed those guys. I don't think it was Kara, but maybe I'm wrong.
Vergon6
05-03-2008, 02:04 AM
Huh? I always thought the people who took her ship killed those guys. I don't think it was Kara, but maybe I'm wrong.
I don't think we can presume it was Kara that did it. Kara's mission was to kill Kal-El, no one else. She did not have that knowledge of what she was supposed to either because she repressed it or because of not having the blue crystal give her the instructions, I am not really sure.
From good ole Wikipedia (for these purposes, it is good as a reference as I haven't seen this entry change, and comic book fans probably watch this entry and others like hawks):
"A new Supergirl series, written by Jeph Loeb, began publication in August 2005. The storyline in the first arc of Supergirl depicts a darker, evil version of Kara emerging when Lex Luthor exposes her to Black Kryptonite. The evil Supergirl implies that Kara's family sent her to earth to kill Kal-El as revenge for a family grudge; at the time, Kara herself refuses to believe this, but later flashbacks indicate that not only was this partly true but Kara had been physically altered by her father as a child before being involved in several murders on Krypton.
Supergirl also appears in Supergirl and the Legion of Super-Heroes, in which she is transported to the 31st century, and, as a result of her disorientation, for a time believes she is dreaming her surroundings into existence until finally convinced otherwise. Although her memories of her time with the Legion were erased before she returned to the present, the mental blocks broke down upon encountering the pre-crisis versions of Legionnaires Karate Kid and Triad (Una).
Supergirl exhibits new powers, manifesting sunstone crystals from her body; so far she has only done so while under great stress (for example, when Cassandra Cain tries to kill her). Supergirl's father implanted the crystals within his daughter's body to protect her from malevolent beings from the Phantom Zone. The Zone-dwellers were released when Jor-El made the Phantom Zone Projector and exploited the Zone as a prison. Kara's father, believing that Kal-El is a lure to the Zone-dwellers, has instructed Kara to destroy him. More recent comics have cast doubt on whether this ability and past are still in continuity."
MixTKO
05-03-2008, 03:13 AM
Ummm...I was wondering, if she's sent to earth to kill Clark, how's she gonna kill him? She can't use kryponite to kill him, she can't brutelly beat the crap out of him coz they have even strength. I guess the only way is to trick Clark into wearing the blue K ring, without his power Kara can killllllllllllll him.
She was supposed to kill baby Kal so he wouldn't have that strength yet. She could break his neck like a twig.
lauraforever
05-03-2008, 03:54 AM
Now this all explains why she didn't pick up baby Kal-El and place him in the spaceship.
ClLaLeChFAN01
05-03-2008, 04:47 AM
Didnt Jor-el have control over this A. universe? And doesn't Jorel not trust Kara because of her father? Im just saying that perhaps Jor-el put that in so there would be a rift with Kara and Clark.
superman79
05-03-2008, 08:54 AM
That explains Brainiacs laughing.
jqedward
05-03-2008, 09:12 AM
That is why I think Jor-El stripped Kara of her powers, because he thought that she was sent to kill his son. Zor-El and Jor-El became sworn enemies and ended up hating each other. As a result Zor-El joined forces with Zod. I believe it was mandated by Zod that Kara kill Kal-El. It was relayed thru Zor-El who Kara trusted and loved so much. It wasn't until Kara found out his true intentions that she betrayed him and decided to help her cousin.
LexLuv180
05-03-2008, 10:59 AM
I agree, and I also think he didn't want Kal-El to share the Earth with his enemies daughter. Without Kara having her powers, he wouldn't have to. Interesting theories all around.
ClimbingTheLog
05-03-2008, 12:13 PM
Didnt Jor-el have control over this A. universe?
Yeah, I think most people are forgetting this AU was a simulation, a VR experience for Clark, as it were.
Did anybody keep track of how much wall-clock time passed while Clark was in the simulation? I'm curious about if it was realtime or accelerated.
All about Clark
05-04-2008, 07:41 PM
I think only Zor-el wanted Clark dead thru the crystal. I think Zor-el's plan was to have himself rule Earth with Kara and Lara by his side. He didn't want Kal-el around to try to protect Lara from Zor-el.
LexLuv180
05-05-2008, 08:59 AM
Yes, that's how they played it. In the AU it showed it was Kara's mission though. The writers never mentioned that comic trivia before, then drop it in the AU like everyone's supposed to recognize her original mission. I did just because I knew the comic history, but they could have set that up better.
mimi1123
05-05-2008, 09:28 AM
I'm trying to figure out why Kara fights Clark when she first learns who he is. Why doesn't she say, "Kal-el?! You made it to Earth??!! All these years you've been alive??"
And further, who sent her to kill him? I mean, he's not even supposed to exist. I suppose Zor-el still might have sent her, not realizing that infant Kal-el never made it. But Zor-el didn't want her to kill Kal-el, did he? Why would her mission have been different?
----- Added 18 Minutes later -----
Oops -- I swear I looked for a thread like this before posting, but now I see it (Kara sent to kill Kalel) and my questions are answered.
All about Clark
05-05-2008, 12:14 PM
^Actually I got it without the comic background. I though it was clear from the episode Blue, that Zor-el wanted Clark ouf of the picture. And MM warned Clark about Kara getting the crystal.
Blue screen of death
05-05-2008, 05:02 PM
just because its an alternate timeline doesn't mean that its going to go exactly up to the point we think we know. The reason that its an alternate timeline is different choices were made at times when we know the other choice was made. So the world may appear as the same place but there will be subtle to obvious differences. To simplify if you were not with your significant other currently do you think you'd live in the exact same house? know the same people have the same friends? Would close friends be acquaintances would the opposite be true? i could go on forever. So because kara didn't have to fullfill her mission as we know it. she went around got the stones made the fortress and braniac intervened and the Zor-el, Lara crystal was never used or destroyed. The with living with the luthors they would have known her secret and exploited it and her to get what the y wanted. Now instead of tricking lex into becoming the vessel and using kal-el to release zod. Braniac is gonna destroy the world make lex the vessel and use kara to release zod. Then the black box comes into play again and krypton would be "reborn" etc.
TheLeague
05-06-2008, 11:45 AM
Yeah, I think most people are forgetting this AU was a simulation, a VR experience for Clark, as it were.
Did anybody keep track of how much wall-clock time passed while Clark was in the simulation? I'm curious about if it was realtime or accelerated.
the events that took place on krypton in the episode were real but in the past remember clark went to krypton AFTER viewing the AU
nk_84
05-06-2008, 12:01 PM
i didn't like the whole krypton thing and time travel, it was really lame. Especially Clark putting himself into the ship, i just thought too cheesey, almost funny.
They need to get on with it instead of f*cking about with Kara who they only introduced cause they had no idea's left, or wanted to make us go "oh cool, supergirl!". I mean, Clark Kent became superman for one reason...protect mankind, those who he loves. He didn't do all this crap that they've put into smallville! Clark's got a one way ticket to the psychologist, never mind saving the world. Poor kid is messed up lol.
You know what they'll do, blank it all and write him in as 'superman ready' once they feel like it and it'll be totally unbelievable after watching 8 seasons of this!
sorry, off topic there.
chlo-el
05-06-2008, 02:29 PM
Ummm...I was wondering, if she's sent to earth to kill Clark, how's she gonna kill him? She can't use kryponite to kill him, she can't brutelly beat the crap out of him coz they have even strength. I guess the only way is to trick Clark into wearing the blue K ring, without his power Kara can killllllllllllll him.
Well, maybe she was sent to kill the baby and was in for a surprise that he was all grown up.
All about Clark
05-06-2008, 03:44 PM
She stated her mission was to find Kal-el and I believe her. I think that once she found Kal-el, she would turn to the blue crystal to find out what was next.
I don't think Clark being grown up would have detered her from trying to kill Clark if that was her mission. Even Zor-el couldn't kill Clark without the blue kryptonite.
chlo-el
05-06-2008, 03:48 PM
She stated her mission was to find Kal-el and I believe her. I think that once she found Kal-el, she would turn to the blue crystal to find out what was next.
I don't think Clark being grown up would have detered her from trying to kill Clark if that was her mission. Even Zor-el couldn't kill Clark without the blue kryptonite.
Hmm so the crystal probably had the message where she was supposed to kill Kal-el. And in the AU she found it and in the RW she didn't.
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