If time travel is achieved so easily, why not stop Krypton's destruction.

[curiosity]

If time travel is acheived so easily in the FOS back to Krypton, why didn't Clark and Kara go back BEFORE Braniac took Kara and go back to when his mom was pregnant and stop the destruction of Krypton?

[faz]

Because then there would be no need for Kal-El to come to Earth and we wouldn't have a show.

[nk_84]

If time travel is acheived so easily in the FOS back to Krypton, why didn't Clark and Kara go back BEFORE Braniac took Kara and go back to when his mom was pregnant and stop the destruction of Krypton?

that's the kind of stuff they don't want us to think aout ;)

You are right though, anyone who had that technology would simply save it from happening.

:rolleyes:

[gameface25]

They made this question and this point clear at the end. Clark tells Kara they cant do that because it is too risky, that changing the past can have unforseen effects on the future.

It is kind of a round-a-bout way for Clark to say he will not leave Earth in LL's hands to save Krypton. It is like choosing which planet lives, and he chooses the one he has grown up on.

Plus, it isn't as if he has powers on Krypton. What is to say if they went back they would be ABLE to do anything about it?

[stenochick]

They made this question and this point clear at the end. Clark tells Kara they cant do that because it is too risky, that changing the past can have unforseen effects on the future.

It is kind of a round-a-bout way for Clark to say he will not leave Earth in LL's hands to save Krypton. It is like choosing which planet lives, and he chooses the one he has grown up on.

Plus, it isn't as if he has powers on Krypton. What is to say if they went back they would be ABLE to do anything about it?

Great points. I think Clark is realizing that some things are just meant to be. Look at what happened when he turned back time to bring back Lana from the dead - our beloved Jonathon Kent died.:(

[nk_84]

aaar true true

[Jaded Wolf]

Great points. I think Clark is realizing that some things are just meant to be. Look at what happened when he turned back time to bring back Lana from the dead - our beloved Jonathon Kent died.:(

And yet if you count Superman: The Movie as continuity for Smallville, as some people on this forum do, then Clark will make the same mistake for Lois. Maybe Superman should stay single. He screws up the space-time ********* for some action... Super indeed...

[Jade4813]

There was a slight difference in that in "Reckoning" he KNEW someone else would die if he turned back time and he did it anyway. But beyond that, I think it was dangerous of him to take the risk but he was grief-stricken and he did it anyway. I think it was a hell of a risk to take - one I'm glad he didn't have to pay for.

But I also think that sometimes even when people have "learned" their lesson, they may still occasionally need a refresher. ;) I think numerous college-age frat boys and sorority girls could probably tell you as much on a Saturday night. How many times on Sunday do you hear, "Ohhhhhhhhhhh...god..........what did I DRINK? I am NEV-blurg-ER doing that again!" Only to find them doing it again a week or so later.

*shrugs* Sometimes people learn that their actions have unfortunate consequences. And sometimes, in moments of profound emotional stress, they do them anyway.

There is also, one could say, a slightly different distinction between going back and saving one person that you know you can save on the hope that it won't screw things up and going back to save an entire planet full of people...when you don't know if you can even save them...knowing that those people have numerous portals to this planet that will remain open if they survive...that Earth is Krypton's #1 vacation spot...and that Zod at the very least would probably drool on himself to come over and take over. So you know the consequences will probably be DIRE and that the effort may not get you much anyway.

*shrugs*

I also think we're thinking about this a LOT more than they likely did.

[ash91]

Clark says that they could make things worse by going back, but seeing as the whole planet explodes and everyone on it dies i don't really see how they can make it worse. i can accept that they don't want to mess with the past but the explanation just didn't seem too good

[Jade4813]

Clark says that they could make things worse by going back, but seeing as the whole planet explodes and everyone on it dies i don't really see how they can make it worse. i can accept that they don't want to mess with the past but the explanation just didn't seem too good

One planet died. Who knows, if he went back, the most evil peple of Krypton could eventually escape and destroy several planets? I'm pretty sure Zod would have kept on keeping on if he hadn't been stopped...and who's to say he was out of commission entirely? Brainiac was certainly working to free him.

*shrugs*

Never know, but sometimes even what seem to be great acts have terrible consequences.

[Thrill_Seeker]

my answer to your topic question is within the show itself.
if you can, watch the scene with clark and kara again in apocalypse towards the end.

[Vergon6]

Clark says that they could make things worse by going back, but seeing as the whole planet explodes and everyone on it dies i don't really see how they can make it worse. i can accept that they don't want to mess with the past but the explanation just didn't seem too good
Well think of it this way. Did you ever see the Halloween episode of The Simpsons where Homer is using a toaster to constantly go back in time, and no matter what he does, there is always something screwed up about the world? I think that's Clark's logic, plus he is supposedly the savior of humanity, so preventing Krypton's destruction would not allow him to do that.

[RJLCyberPunk]

Why not go back before WWII and kill Hitler while you are at it? Ever heard of the infamous time paradox? Say you kill Hitler for example, who does that leave around to pick up the pace in his place? None other than his ally at that time Joseph Stalin (yes Hitler and Stalin were allies before the war started up 'till the time Hitler betrayed him by invading Russia). So even iof you remove Hitler Stalin would have started a war of conquest of his own and probably allied themselves with the Japs and the Italians, the war could have been even worse. The same goes for Krypton or any place in the freaking universe you try to change the timeline as you see fit..

[Jade4813]

Plus, how would he save the planet? It looked on here like it exploded AFTER the sun exploded, and he wouldn't have the power to stop the sun from exploding any more than his dad did. Or the power to make anyone listen to him. He'd come off like a nutcase...or worse.

[RJLCyberPunk]

Plus, how would he save the planet? It looked on here like it exploded AFTER the sun exploded, and he wouldn't have the power to stop the sun from exploding any more than his dad did. Or the power to make anyone listen to him. He'd come off like a nutcase...or worse.


Brainiac had pretty much convinced everyone everything was safe and being a superintelligence they had created to protect Krypton and so on they trusted the damn thing until it was too late...

[eas]

If time travel is acheived so easily in the FOS back to Krypton, why didn't Clark and Kara go back BEFORE Braniac took Kara and go back to when his mom was pregnant and stop the destruction of Krypton?

Well, it seemed to me that Kara didn't choose when to go back. Brianiac took her with him and determined the time. It works in his interests to go right when the world is being destroyed -- he doesn't have to deal with anyone else except a baby Kal-El.

Then, once they got back, Kara asked Clark to go back and try to stop Krypton from being destroyed. And Clark, who learned something through the AU experience, tells her that you can't change the past and you can only work towards affecting the future.

To me, that showed a lot of maturity and growth on Clark's part. In the past, I think Clark would have been the first one to jump up and agree with Kara. Now, though, he sees what him turning back time to save Lana did... he saw what would have happened to the world if he never grew up on Earth. He's basically figuring out that his decisions can have serious implications on more people than just him. So, he's making tough decisions.

[Xanderman]

Clark says that they could make things worse by going back, but seeing as the whole planet explodes and everyone on it dies i don't really see how they can make it worse. i can accept that they don't want to mess with the past but the explanation just didn't seem too goodAgreed. I mean if Earth was destroyed, and humans became extinct, would Clark/Superman not go back in time to try and prevent it? Because things couldn't get much worse than that. Clearly, the explanation Clark (or the show) gave for not saving Krypton is very flawed.

The real threat was Brainiac apparently, as RJL said above. So destroying him, and maybe even the phantom zone (it that's possible), and thus Zod and the rest of the criminals/phantoms imprisoned in it along with it, would go a long way to not just being able to save Krypton, but protecting the rest of the universe as well.

The AU showed us that it isn't just a world without Clark that screws Earth, it's the presence of and interference from other super beings (villains) from Krypton. Lex might not have reached the position he did without the help of Brainiac and Kara. If nobody and nothing from Krypton ever visited Earth and Krypton wasn't destroyed, there'd be no meteor shower, Lex wouldn't have gone bald as a young child, and he might have ended up far less twisted/evil. Also, Lionel would have been less crazy obsessed since the Veritas project wouldn't have existed, as no "travelers" of any kind would be on their way, and Lex might have had a happier childhood.

So from the way SV has set things up, Clark/Superman is ultimated needed to save Earth from his own kind, rather than protecting humans from each other.

[LexLuv180]

And yet if you count Superman: The Movie as continuity for Smallville, as some people on this forum do, then Clark will make the same mistake for Lois. Maybe Superman should stay single. He screws up the space-time ********* for some action... Super indeed...

Yes lol. Jor-El warned him on why time travel was no longer used on Krypton in the fortress, so perhaps this is why the civilization did not set up methods on saving itself. However, Clark does seem to break this rule when it comes to the love of his lives being in jeopardy. Oh well, I don't complain because those flaws make him more human to me, therefore more approachable and interesting.

[Spirit Detective]

Clark said it best in this episode

"You can't change the past, you can only affect the future".

Not to mention Jor-El's warning of the universe "finding a balance" if one course of events are altered.

[Timester]

They simply followed their own time travelling canon. You can't change the universe without it founding its own balance. It was what happened with Wreckoning. Someone that Clark loved had to die.

Look at the AU, Clark is not there, but everything else is there. Lex took the place of the savior of the meteor shower, Kara took the place of the creator of the FOS, Jonathan and Martha had a son named Clark. The balance is there. If Krypton was saved, then some other planet would die.

[Dor el]

Jor el warned Clark not to mess with history. Going back in time to prevent Brainiac from killing baby Kal el just kept things on tract. Brainiac had gone back in time to change things so that events would turn out in such a way as to allow for Brainiac to complete his mission. Clark only went back to keep history the same. Going back to undo the destruction of Krypton would have changed something that already happened so changing that event would have changed history. But, Clark going back only kept something from happening that did not occur the first historical time around.

[dunlopc]

My first thought watching was why he would not try and go back to save Krypton. But then it would mean no Superman. Also Doctor Who recently answered that question to his assistant Donna which was some things are fixed points in time otherwise he would go back and save his own planet Gallifrey.

[Jade4813]

Also Doctor Who recently answered that question to his assistant Donna which was some things are fixed points in time otherwise he would go back and save his own planet Gallifrey.

Yeah, they addressed that in "Father's Day" too...that episode still makes me sad. On the other hand, it also made me scream (when watching Apocalypse) "Don't touch the BABY!"

[Kal-El-073]

On the other hand, it also made me scream (when watching Apocalypse) "Don't touch the BABY!"

Yeah they kinda went out there when they had Clark pick his infant self up. Not suppose to do that from what I've read. I guess the kinda had to run with it that way for Braniac to infect Kara though.

[jqedward]

Well, it seemed to me that Kara didn't choose when to go back. Brianiac took her with him and determined the time. It works in his interests to go right when the world is being destroyed -- he doesn't have to deal with anyone else except a baby Kal-El.

Then, once they got back, Kara asked Clark to go back and try to stop Krypton from being destroyed. And Clark, who learned something through the AU experience, tells her that you can't change the past and you can only work towards affecting the future.

To me, that showed a lot of maturity and growth on Clark's part. In the past, I think Clark would have been the first one to jump up and agree with Kara. Now, though, he sees what him turning back time to save Lana did... he saw what would have happened to the world if he never grew up on Earth. He's basically figuring out that his decisions can have serious implications on more people than just him. So, he's making tough decisions.

Exactly, as much as Clark loves his Earth parents, he has always wanted to really know his birth parents. He realized his inicial opinion of Jor-El were wrong. The Clark of old would have probably jumped at the chance to save Krypton. He knows now that if they changed the past it could make the future much much worse. It shows he has indeed matured.

[Xanderman]

Not to mention Jor-El's warning of the universe "finding a balance" if one course of events are altered.Really? Then where was the balance in the AU where baby Clark was killed? In the AU, Clark and hence Superman never existed on Earth, due to changes made. Did anyone or anything step in to take his place, to provide a balance for the many changes brought on by Brainiac? That's a big nope right there. There was no other "Superman" or the like to keep Lex in check, save Earth, etc. Definitely no balance there. Therefore Jor-El's theory is wrong, or at least, not always true. Clark should definitely try to save Krypton and his race from extinction thru time travel as things can't get much worse than the annihilation of his own species.


Clark said it best in this episode

"You can't change the past, you can only affect the future".Actually you CAN change the past, Clark has done so to save Lana, and in the AU Jor-El showed Clark, Clark never existed on Earth. It's rather a question of whether you SHOULD. And clearly, if the stakes are large enough, you most definitely should -- like saving an entire race from extinction.


They simply followed their own time travelling canon. You can't change the universe without it founding its own balance. It was what happened with Wreckoning. Someone that Clark loved had to die.

Look at the AU, Clark is not there, but everything else is there. Lex took the place of the savior of the meteor shower, Kara took the place of the creator of the FOS, Jonathan and Martha had a son named Clark. The balance is there. If Krypton was saved, then some other planet would die.As I said above, where was the balance for the loss of Clark/Superman to the world? Do these "balances" only apply to "bad" things? Villains can go back in time and do bad things with no balances, yet going back in time to do something good or prevent a bad thing from happening always has a balance you have to watch out for? Huh? I don't think so, makes no sense, flawed reasoning from da Ville. Therefore, since this "balancing" is not really the case, there is no guarantee that saving Krypton would result in another planet having to take its place. Considering the magnitude of what happened to Clark's planet and race, giving time travel a shot to at least try to save it should not have been shrugged off as quickly or as stupidly as they made Clark do.


Clark only went back to keep history the same. Going back to undo the destruction of Krypton would have changed something that already happened so changing that event would have changed history. But, Clark going back only kept something from happening that did not occur the first historical time around.But it didn't stay the same, the first time around only his parents were around before the ship took off, weren't they? So history was changed somewhat. Plus we were led to believe that the AU would indeed come true should Clark be killed -- if Clark had not acted to stop Brainiac, events would have played out as in the AU Jor-El showed him -- resulting in a very different history.


He knows now that if they changed the past it could make the future much much worse. It shows he has indeed matured.It doesn't get much worse than a planet being destroyed and a race being annihilated. So it's well worth the risk. Like I said in a previous post, if Earth blew up and all humans everywhere died and only Superman was left, would Superman say "Hmmm, I COULD go back and try to save everyone and everything that ever mattered to me, but should I really take the chance of making things worse? Hmm, sounds kinda risky. Nah, best to leave things as they are, plus I think my Ghost Dad might get mad, I mean he did say it was forbidden and all...and I think it's a good idea to listen to a ghost rather than my own conscience." (So Superman flies off to find another planet to live on, and Earth is forgotten forever...The End.) :lol:

[superhippie2000]

jor el has always said you cant change what is ment to be or something like that. you cant change history. history happens for a reason. for every bad thing that happens something good comes out of it. its easy to go back and perhaps kill hitler so jews didnt die but if that never happened then what would stop someone else from doing it? also jews who ran away into hiding got help from others who werent jews. now if those people never helped the jews there would be no history of helping those who are different. or lets say go back in time and stop slave trading. sure going back in time to stop that would be good since slavery is wrong but if we didnt have slaves here we wouldnt have had people like martin luthor king who stood up for black rights and helped people get together. or maybe something not so history making. americas most wanted helps people and stop bad things from happenng to people. they have stopped lots and lots of people and its because the guy who started it's son was killed by a bad guy. if you go back and save his son then he wouldnt have start the originaztion to help all the people it has helped. so say krypton never exploded. clark would have never came to earth but lex would still be on earth and would destroy it. also zod seemed to have planed to take over earth long before krypton was destroyed. so im sure if krypton wasnt destroyed zod and his followers could have escaped the zone probably easier and came to earth and still destroyed it.

[theWatcher]

It probably would have been simply enough for Clark to go far back enough to have stop the destruction of his homeworld; however, doing so could have produced unknown temperal paradoxes. Even Clark would have to realize this truth. Heck, even in the show they touched base with this. The story as a whole, where Clark was interacting within a universe where he doesn't exist is a testiment to what happens if you change an event in the past.

[Xanderman]

say krypton never exploded. clark would have never came to earth but lex would still be on earth and would destroy it. also zod seemed to have planed to take over earth long before krypton was destroyed. so im sure if krypton wasnt destroyed zod and his followers could have escaped the zone probably easier and came to earth and still destroyed it.As I said in a previous post, Lex was made evil however through experiences connected with the meteor shower and his lousy father. Going bald as a child was a traumatic experience that resulted in him being teased and being an outcast etc growing up, and Lionel was obsessed with finding a way of "controlling" a coming traveller, for his own purposes. Should the Veritas group have never existed, nor the meteor shower, perhaps Lex might have had a happier childhood. And we were shown that Lex rose to power in the AU not alone, but with help from super powered beings from Krypton -- Kara and Brainiac. If they weren't around, Lex might have never become president and been in a position to cause that much damage. Of course, he could still do evil as a villain operating outside the law as in the movies, even if he's not president -- but I doubt he could get away with as much damage.

If Brainiac, Zod and other phantom zone criminals are the real threat, then perhaps they should be the target of a time travel attack. And then Krypton and/or its people can be saved from extinction, without fear of consequences related to having no Superman on Earth to protect it from Kryptonians. If Lex or some other human does bad on Earth, well too bad for Earth -- that's humans hurting other humans -- if the human race can't prevent itself from destroying itself, then maybe it doesn't deserve to be saved.

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It probably would have been simply enough for Clark to go far back enough to have stop the destruction of his homeworld; however, doing so could have produced unknown temperal paradoxes. Even Clark would have to realize this truth. Heck, even in the show they touched base with this. The story as a whole, where Clark was interacting within a universe where he doesn't exist is a testiment to what happens if you change an event in the past.They never seemed to even address the concept of paradoxes much less the threat of them, lol. Smallville told a very simplistic time travel story (like a cartoon would), one riddled with holes. For one thing, during Apocalypse both Chloe and Clark believed that he would somehow just disappear from existence if the time-traveling Brainiac kills him as a baby in the past (similar to how Marty started to vanish from existence in Back to the Future, which of course was absurd for various reasons). Anyway back to Smallville, this is goofy since Brainiac already travelled, and so if he succeeded Clark and Chloe couldn't and wouldn't be having this conversation. Taking it a step further, Chloe actually believed that when Clark vanished before her eyes during that scene, that he might have been erased from existence right then and there (to her horror of course, lol). Completely stupid of course, since Chloe and that entire moment should "vanish" at the same time as well, with the numerous changes upon changes in events that would result from Clark's erasure.

Paradoxes apparently aren't really an issue with time travel at all on Smallville, all sorts of changes can be made -- such as that world without Superman we saw in the AU that would result should Clark be killed as a baby -- which is a paradox unto itself -- as if Clark never exists on Earth, then Brainiac should never have had a reason to go back in time to kill him. The only way this can be possible is if we're talking about a "multiverse" -- which goes against Jor-El's "balance" preachings that imply a single universe which tries to balance or compensate for any changes made to its one and only timeline. But clearly there isn't really any such balance, as there was no replacement for Superman or the things he meant for the world in the Superman-less universe. Smallville's writers are all over the place with their time travel ideas, sloppy. But since their target audience seems to mainly be teens/kids, it's probably just a case of making the story as entertaining as possible -- for which proper logic and reasoning often take a backseat.




So anyway, the thread creator asked "If time travel is achieved so easily, why not stop Krypton's destruction?"

Well the answer is clearly, why not indeed.

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

Timey-Wimey, Wibley-Wobley. Messing with time is just bad.

[RJLCyberPunk]

As I said in a previous post, Lex was made evil however through experiences connected with the meteor shower and his lousy father. Going bald as a child was a traumatic experience that resulted in him being teased and being an outcast etc growing up, and Lionel was obsessed with finding a way of "controlling" a coming traveller, for his own purposes. Should the Veritas group have never existed, nor the meteor shower, perhaps Lex might have had a happier childhood. And we were shown that Lex rose to power in the AU not alone, but with help from super powered beings from Krypton -- Kara and Brainiac. If they weren't around, Lex might have never become president and been in a position to cause that much damage. Of course, he could still do evil as a villain operating outside the law as in the movies, even if he's not president -- but I doubt he could get away with as much damage.

You realize you are making humongous assumptions here don't you? But let's go by the numbers...


If Brainiac, Zod and other phantom zone criminals are the real threat, then perhaps they should be the target of a time travel attack. And then Krypton and/or its people can be saved from extinction, without fear of consequences related to having no Superman on Earth to protect it from Kryptonians. If Lex or some other human does bad on Earth, well too bad for Earth -- that's humans hurting other humans -- if the human race can't prevent itself from destroying itself, then maybe it doesn't deserve to be saved. The Zone criminals are not the only non terresrtrial threat Earth faces in the DC comics universe on which Smallville happens to be based, just FYI


They never seemed to even address the concept of paradoxes much less the threat of them, lol. Smallville told a very simplistic time travel story (like a cartoon would), one riddled with holes. For one thing, during Apocalypse both Chloe and Clark believed that he would somehow just disappear from existence if the time-traveling Brainiac kills him as a baby in the past (similar to how Marty started to vanish from existence in Back to the Future, which of course was absurd for various reasons). Anyway back to Smallville, this is goofy since Brainiac already travelled, and so if he succeeded Clark and Chloe couldn't and wouldn't be having this conversation. Taking it a step further, Chloe actually believed that when Clark vanished before her eyes during that scene, that he might have been erased from existence right then and there (to her horror of course, lol). Completely stupid of course, since Chloe and that entire moment should "vanish" at the same time as well, with the numerous changes upon changes in events that would result from Clark's erasure. Oh do tell Mr time travelling expert! So according to you even if you go back in time and kill your younger self or your parents before you were born nothing would happen? Have I got that right?:rolleyes:


Paradoxes apparently aren't really an issue with time travel at all on Smallville, all sorts of changes can be made -- such as that world without Superman we saw in the AU that would result should Clark be killed as a baby -- which is a paradox unto itself -- as if Clark never exists on Earth, then Brainiac should never have had a reason to go back in time to kill him. The only way this can be possible is if we're talking about a "multiverse" -- which goes against Jor-El's "balance" preachings that imply a single universe which tries to balance or compensate for any changes made to its one and only timeline. But clearly there isn't really any such balance, as there was no replacement for Superman or the things he meant for the world in the Superman-less universe. Smallville's writers are all over the place with their time travel ideas, sloppy. But since their target audience seems to mainly be teens/kids, it's probably just a case of making the story as entertaining as possible -- for which proper logic and reasoning often take a backseat.Really then explain why after Clark messed up with the timeline the first time the price was the death of his adoptive father latter on?





So anyway, the thread creator asked "If time travel is achieved so easily, why not stop Krypton's destruction?"

Well the answer is clearly, why not indeed. Because there is no way to tell the outcome, but obviously you either ignore the many shows and movies that have depicted this obviously on purpose just to annoy everyone...

[Xanderman]

The Zone criminals are not the only non terresrtrial threat Earth faces in the DC comics universe on which Smallville happens to be based, just FYIWell in the AU of this ep, "Doomsday" was directly connected to Kryptonians working in conjunction with Lex, no other alien involvement. I based that comment mainly on this fact, and what Smallville has done. I don't really know comics.



Oh do tell Mr time travelling expert! So according to you even if you go back in time and kill your younger self or your parents before you were born nothing would happen? Have I got that right?:rolleyes:That's not what I said or implied, not even close. My point with regards to the Chloe/Clark stuff was that what Smallville did made no sense. Please read it again more carefully if you're still unclear as to why. I don't have to be an expert on time travel to recognize bad logic or something that makes little sense in any way you choose to look at it.


Really then explain why after Clark messed up with the timeline the first time the price was the death of his adoptive father latter on.Once again you missed my point, which was that Smallville's writers are all over the place with their ideas. They say one thing, but don't really stick to it in all cases. They bend/change things as they see fit to suit whatever story they want to tell next. So sure that was an example of a supposed "balance" (to suit their story purposes at the time), but I also described another case where changes caused by time travel were accompanied by no real balancing at all. That being, the effect of the loss of Clark to Earth, in the world of the AU that would have been should Clark had not prevented Brainiac from killing his younger self.


Because there is no way to tell the outcome, but obviously you either ignore the many shows and movies that have depicted this obviously on purpose just to annoy everyone...No need to flame me RJL, not sure why you're reacting this way. You don't seem to understand the bulk or the heart of my arguments at all, as evidenced by your responses/comments here (which for the most part are pretty off the mark). And if you can't properly or fully understand them, debating them (or me) to the point where you feel the need to insult me makes little sense.

[STFanatic]

With my luck, I would go back in time and accidentally take a leak in the Primordial Ooze :p

[Xanderman]

With my luck, I would go back in time and accidentally take a leak in the Primordial Ooze :pLol, that sounds like something Q would do, just to tick off Picard.:lol: (recall All Good Things)

Picard: Q!! Please don't pee on humanity!!!
Q: How do you know I didn't just create it?

:lol:

[Vergon6]

Lol, that sounds like something Q would do, just to tick off Picard.:lol: (recall All Good Things)

Picard: Q!! Please don't pee on humanity!!!
Q: How do you know I didn't just create it?

:lol:
lol
"You see this? This is you. I'm serious! Right here, life is about to form on this planet for the very first time. A group of amino acids is about to combine to form the first protein. The building blocks of what you call life." I still think my analogy to that Simpsons episode is appropriate. Unfortunately not everything is a predestination paradox like Quantum Leap. No matter how many times Clark tried to change the timeline to make things right, he never could.

[jimmyolsenblues]

because i believe the whole thing was not real, it was something jor-el showed clark. brainiac is alive and well.

[Kirstycol]

Jor el warned Clark not to mess with history. Going back in time to prevent Brainiac from killing baby Kal el just kept things on tract. Brainiac had gone back in time to change things so that events would turn out in such a way as to allow for Brainiac to complete his mission. Clark only went back to keep history the same. Going back to undo the destruction of Krypton would have changed something that already happened so changing that event would have changed history. But, Clark going back only kept something from happening that did not occur the first historical time around.


I think it is because saving krypton might actually have been worse for everyone. Zod may have gained control of Krypton and come and destroyed earth. Clark could have been killed. etc... I think the reasoning in this episode is saving krypton, killing himself isn't actully going to make things better. Sometimes things are better exactly the way they are. As sad as that is for clark and those who suffered because of his secret.

[Humdinger]

Everyone knows you can't mess with the space/time ********* - or you wind up with Ashton Kucher with no arms and legs!

Okay, it's twilight zone time - the software won't let me spell the word c-o-n-t-i-n-u-u-m as a word. WTF?

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Is ********* a dirty word? Is someone messing with my head? LOL, ********* must be recognized as a bad word, what a howl! I just wanted to see if it would happen again.

[stenochick]

*********
I just had to try it after reading your post. How arbitrary.:confused:

[Kirstycol]

maybe it's mistakeing it for the the 4 letter C word. continum haha reminds me of south park. "Stan says you are a cun.. cun... continuing source of inspiriation."

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Hey it worked for me.

[ash91]

maybe it's mistakeing it for the the 4 letter C word. continum haha reminds me of south park. "Stan says you are a cun.. cun... continuing source of inspiriation."

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Hey it worked for me.

it only worked for you because you spelt ********* wrong with only one U :lol:
I know this is going off topic but it's really funny that it doesn't allow that word- how very random

[STFanatic]

Everyone knows you can't mess with the space/time ********* - or you wind up with Ashton Kucher with no arms and legs!

Okay, it's twilight zone time - the software won't let me spell the word c-o-n-t-i-n-u-u-m as a word. WTF?

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Is ********* a dirty word? Is someone messing with my head? LOL, ********* must be recognized as a bad word, what a howl! I just wanted to see if it would happen again.

That censor block is there because a certain website with that name in it invaded KryptonSite a while back, so Craig had that word blocked.

[Humdinger]

^^^Thanks for the info. So, it is a dirty word! LOL