The "Clark / baby Kal-El" scene discussion

[elway]

Well another scene (the one of Lara and Jor El putting Clark in the ship) has now changed to Clark putting himself in the ship??? They couldn't have written something to get it back to the scene from Memoria??

[HowardFilms]

They should have...

[lovingtom]

that was weird, kal-el putting kal in the ship, that was kool...

[jimmyolsenblues]

where was jor-el and mommy when you needed them?

[theotherJane]

I didn't like this part that much. Would have preferred if Clark was standing by the sidelines and watching Lara and Jor-El put baby Clark into the ship.

[curiosity]

I think Jor-El and Lara already launched him, and ran off, and then Clark showed up and put him back at the last minute, so his parents building the ship and launching him would still be the same. IMO.

[hookem91]

^^ yep i agree, it looked like the ship was crashed so maybe braniac crashed it after jor-el sent it off?

[susangail]

Yeah, but why weren't there two Clarks and two Karas back on earth?

[elway]

I didn't like this part that much. Would have preferred if Clark was standing by the sidelines and watching Lara and Jor-El put baby Clark into the ship.

That probably would have been to this point the most epic scene they could have done. Clark off in a distance watching his parents put him into the ship, after he saves the day. I mean however you got to get back to the scene from Memoria DO IT! And after all these years we would have got to see Clark watch what we saw in his memory in season 3..

[curiosity]

When the baby was just looking at Clark it was so cute!

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It's too bad, while Clark was staring at his baby self, brainiac did something to Kara.

[WickedJenn]

I think it gave Clark and interesting perspective...how difficult it must've been for Jor-El and Lara to let him go like that, but also how proud they felt knowing what their son would accomplish on earth.

[elway]

Why was the title of my thread changed??? Just wondering, did we have a merger of sorts??? I wasn't going for How cute it was seeing a baby, rather how do they explain this..............

[WookieeBoy]

When the baby was just looking at Clark it was so cute!

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It's too bad, while Clark was staring at his baby self, brainiac did something to Kara.

I thought Braniac's evil laughter as Kara was about to off him was wicked cool.

[curiosity]

^ It was.

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Why was the title of my thread changed??? Just wondering, did we have a merger of sorts??? I wasn't going for How cute it was seeing a baby, rather how do they explain this..............


They're merging all the threads. My thread about the baby was merged with this one also.

[superspider02]

yea i think the idea the ship was already got launched and jorel and lara left to try and protect them self from krypton's desruction and then brianiac came and stoped it from leaving and we got what we got.

[TECHWON]

yea i think the idea the ship was already got launched and jorel and lara left to try and protect them self from krypton's desruction and then brianiac came and stoped it from leaving and we got what we got.

Basically but too me the scene took too long and slightly too drawn out but this episode rocked either way

[Phantazma]

I love how baby Kal-El covered his eyes with the blanket as Clark fought Brainiac. It was like baby Kal-El was thinking: Oh, no! Future me fighting Brainiac! I can't bear to watch! :lol:

[warriorrenegade]

What happend in Memoria hasn't changed. Milton just intercepted the ship pre launch.

[AndiGirl]

It was very strange....maybe Brainiac knocked his parents out? I dont think it could have been too far before the launch...it literally crumbled seconds after he was gone. Plus, I have a hard time believing his parents just left him in there alone...and were like "we will come back when its time to launch it...no biggy!" Made no sense....BUT

Baby Clark was soooooo cute! I know I know, not what the thread is about. But seeing cute baby Clark and hot man Clark....I liked it. ;)

[Randy G.]

[Mod Note:] When we start to have multiple threads on the same, or very similar subjects (where the conversation is all going in the same direction), it's always been common practice to merge threads & adjust the title accordingly.

Nothing offensive is meant by this, it just organizes the topics, and makes discussion easier. Can you imagine searching through pages of threads on the same thing? It would be a nightmare.

R.G. ;)

[warriorrenegade]

Brainiac could've easily been hiding and waiting for the parents to leave. When Jor-El put Clark into the ship...Krypton was still a happy place...not the chaos that was tonight. Easily suggesting that Brainiac intercepted the ship either just after lauch or right before either way he got his hands on it. Also I doubt Jor-El and Lara stood by and waited to die, its nature human or alien to perserve ones self..so they would've taken cover even if it was in vain.

[ForzaItalia]

Well another scene (the one of Lara and Jor El putting Clark in the ship) has now changed to Clark putting himself in the ship??? They couldn't have written something to get it back to the scene from Memoria??


I agree. It's bad enough that in earlier years the producers forgot they already established what Clark's spaceship looked like, and they changed it in later episodes. Now they're changing who's there when Kal-el rocket launches? And changing the whole state of how bad things were on Krypton at that moment? Where were Jor-el and Lara anyway when old Kal-el was rocketing baby Kal-el?

[skully]

I love how baby Kal-El covered his eyes with the blanket as Clark fought Brainiac. It was like baby Kal-El was thinking: Oh, no! Future me fighting Brainiac! I can't bear to watch! :lol:Yeah, that was a great little scene captured by TW as the Director. Very, very cute.

[~*smallville_tv*~]

I was hoping to see the process on how Clark gets to krypton in the past.
I'm abit confused by it actually- isn't it previously Chloe pointed out a star and a dot which was the way to get there? So how could Clark get there? He isn't flying yet...:/
Then the end part you see the ship but you don't see how Clark and Kara escape. So yeah I was expecting more from that scene.
On the other hand, the baby was cute lol

[stenochick]

It's too bad, while Clark was staring at his baby self, brainiac did something to Kara.

I think that is why the writers had to have Clark put the baby in the ship, because he needed a good reason to not be fighting Brainiac with Kara. That way the audience is distracted with Clark and the baby and we can't see what Brainiac is doing to Kara. But we know from the final scenes with her holding Clark's hand and the look he gives her, and her collapsing in the kitchen, that he did something to her and may even BE her. Who knows?

[jesslang]

When the baby was just looking at Clark it was so cute!

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It's too bad, while Clark was staring at his baby self, brainiac did something to Kara.

what did he do??? i thought she killed him .

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Yeah, that was a great little scene captured by TW as the Director. Very, very cute.

I know i thought that was really cute ..i was like awwwwwww ...that was such a cute baby...!

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oh....
never mind the first queston.....

[skully]

It would only take one of his viney strand things from his fingers to jab into Kara, to "impregate" her Lana style.

[KaraClarkfan]

i thought that was a beautiful scene. now clark gets to see what his parents went through during there final hours

[nk_84]

Yeah, but why weren't there two Clarks and two Karas back on earth?

cause when they go back to their time it'll be back to where they were. Think of it as like back to the future, there's two of doc and marty but once they're back in 1985, there's only one of each.;)

[DontCha]

Ok, So clark comes back to the present after he dies in the AU..so how the frig is Kal-el the baby thing going on at this point in time when he goes up to krypton?

I really didnt get that part:confused::confused:

Is it something to do with the time difference?

[Jaderoyale]

It was just basically Kara in the past, and Clark got sent back to the point in time that Kara and Brainiac were at. They were just at a set point in the past.

[faz]

Jor-El opened a portal in the Fortress for him to travel back in time to Krypton so he could stop Brainiac from killing him as a baby.

[DontCha]

oh right!

so he travelled back in time! for some reason I didnt pick up on that

so its basically saying that Clark is the reason why clark is on earth?

or did braniac somewhow manage to go back in time and threaten to disrupt it?

I live in the UK and am not too familiar with how things are panning out in season 7 as much of it hasnt aired here yet.

[WickedJenn]

oh right!

so he travelled back in time! for some reason I didnt pick up on that

so its basically saying that Clark is the reason why clark is on earth?

or did braniac somewhow manage to go back in time and threaten to disrupt it?

I live in the UK and am not too familiar with how things are panning out in season 7 as much of it hasnt aired here yet.

I think it's more saying that Clark stopped Brainiac from altering the past, rather than Clark being responsible for himself getting there. Brainiac did go back in time to 1989 earth time with Kara, at the end of "Veritas".

[wski440]

because after he came back to the present from the AU, he went to the fortress during a commercial break and transported into the past and onto kyrpton

[chlo-el]

What I want to know is why did it take him so long to rescue himself. He just stood there and stared for a while.

[ScottM1956]

Guess the writers never watched "Time Cop" or "Back to the Future" I thought that was a good as to why two entities cannot occupy(Touch) the same space.

[RedKalEL]

This jsut bothered and annoyed me I mean I owuld understand if Kara was hurt or something but she was just sitting there watching clark choke brainiac and telling him to get the baby. Me and my neighbor were screaming, "You get the baby!"

[malft]

Actually, in theoretical physics, it is impossible for you to be in two places at once. In SciFi speak they call this the paradox. You would destroy both copies of yourself because of the antimatter effect, you can't touch your other self or you are both destroyed.

[Kevin24]

Actually, in theoretical physics, it is impossible for you to be in two places at once. In SciFi speak they call this the paradox. You would destroy both copies of yourself because of the antimatter effect, you can't touch your other self or you are both destroyed.

He didn't touch baby Clark. He was touching the blanket .

[ClimbingTheLog]

Actually, in theoretical physics, it is impossible for you to be in two places at once. In SciFi speak they call this the paradox. You would destroy both copies of yourself because of the antimatter effect, you can't touch your other self or you are both destroyed.

The part about not being in two places at once is talked about by real physics - it's actually possible at the quantum level. And if you exceeded the speed of light you would also be. But that all refers to our current limited understanding of physics - time portals pretty much define that we're not talking about a world described by our physics.
The anti-matter thing isn't real physics. Matter and antimatter are different and there's no known way to convert one to the other. Either you start out as matter or anti-matter and you stay that way, time travel shouldn't convert you. You're thinking TimeCop, not physics.

[Hopefulsuicide]

i thought the scene was sweet, and held the most emotion in the episode for me. i could feel Clark thinking about what was to come for the baby, and then the smile just topped it off for me... i think he finally realised the worth of his life in that moment

physics is something that is very hard to apply to a lot of sci fi shows... Smallville isn't the worst i've seen

[4CHLicks]

i thought the scene was sweet, and held the most emotion in the episode for me. i could feel Clark thinking about what was to come for the baby, and then the smile just topped it off for me... i think he finally realised the worth of his life in that moment
I agree. Have you ever seen a photo of yourself as a baby and felt genuine tenderness at the moment? Well, Clark experienced that 1000 time over when he held himself as a baby. And realized this was the precious, innocent life he was going to just let Brainiac take. And eveything in Clark must have rebelled...NO! Must save the baby!

And, thus, save himself, too. So when Lex came to jerk Clark's strings with "helping Lana" talk, Clark was able to resist for the first time. And put self-preservation and his destiny to save the world over Lana's welfare, for the very first time. This was something he couldn't do in S5's Reckoning, so I'm actually quite proud of Clark. He's made some progress.

[Mrs.Bizzaro]

Well another scene (the one of Lara and Jor El putting Clark in the ship) has now changed to Clark putting himself in the ship??? They couldn't have written something to get it back to the scene from Memoria??

Well, I assumed that all that crazy stuff happened after Clark's parents put clark in the ship...I was actually thinking they were both off somewhere already dead. The place was shaking a lot when they first put Clark in the ship - maybe they got crushed and then Brainiac came after that and took him out of the ship.

Cause Jor-El was the one who put Brainiac in the phantom zone in the first place - Brainiac would be smart enough to wait till Jor-El was already dead before he could attempt to go after Clark.

[Superboy2]

It would have been a great way to see Lara again and hear from Jor-El.

[quinny06]

As far as ruining the Memoria scene goes, the people that run this show can't remember what happened the week before, let alone what happened in Season 3. Whereas a show like Doctor Who has something like 40 years of continuity and hardly ever contradicts past episodes. Speaking of the good Doctor, I think they mentioned in that show once that touching your infant self from the past is a pardox.

[malcrew]

They can be a great people, Kal-el. They wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason above all, their capacity for good...I have sent them you... my only Son!