Kara: End scene discussion (What was going on?)

[Superman of Krypton]

Even though I know he probably didnt, that last scene made it look like he did...where she was grabbing her stomach and collapsed.

It was pretty funny.

If he did though, props to him...he works fast :lol:

[Mar-El]

He downloaded himself into her, I guess.

But it looks like she didn't know. Man, will she feel violated when she finds out...:lol:

[Twitch]

LOL yeah I wasn't too sure what to think of that... Poor Kara she never gets a break, it's always something! :lol:

[Ilovebeinglost]

Ok that makes sense so maybe he slowy dies now and Kara will be ok?

[Superman of Krypton]

Whatever Brainiac put in Kara is the reason why Lana is still a vegetable.

[mctor]

When I saw kara grab her Stomach The first thing I thought was, thats Brainiac feeling the pain of being stabbed. Than it all made sense to me, OMG brainiac morphed into Kara!

[Superman of Krypton]

Yeah. That would actually make more sense.

That Brainiac IS Kara....

But this was supposed to be Brainiac's last episode, so I dont know.


That would also mean the real Kara died on Krypton.

[TheLastKryptonian]

Yeah. That would actually make more sense.

That Brainiac IS Kara....

But this was supposed to be Brainiac's last episode, so I dont know.


That would also mean the real Kara died on Krypton.

I don't think Kara died because....

Arctic description states Kara is in the Phantom Zone .

So the real Kara is obviously alive. :)

[Superman of Krypton]

Ohhh.


So this Kara IS Brainiac then.

Makes sense.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Yeah. That would actually make more sense.

That Brainiac IS Kara....

But this was supposed to be Brainiac's last episode, so I dont know.


That would also mean the real Kara died on Krypton.

Brainiac is back in the season finale.

[Mar-El]

^ Thank Zod for that.

[vezz801]

and The official description for Arctic, Brainiac is supposed to mipersonate Kara

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sorry, didn't see the previous post

[Poyntz]

I felt something was stranger when Kara said to clark she willl aways be there for him or something and held his hand. it didnt really seem like her to me.

[Mar-El]

I kind of agree, Poyntz. Maybe its just natural for her to want to go back to Krypton, but she seemed kind of pushy on the subject.

But then, why get some milk in the middle of the night if she wasn't herself?
Hmmmm

[TheLastKryptonian]

The only that kind of stinks it that we know Brainiac is impersonating Kara, and Kara is in the Phantom Zone from the CW description. I wish it could've been left out and be a BIG SURPRISE like the ending of Gemini.

[Superman of Krypton]

Ew.. Brainiac holding Clark's hand.

Brainiark!!!

[SOnMyChest]

what if you guys are all completely off. what if we were all way off. now check out my theory.

Kara is the traveller!
She fights clark in the fortress.
Lex is learning how to control her or has already started. Maybe lex does not need to forget clarks secret cause they all thought it was clark, but really kara was the traveller.

what u guys think?

[oldblackmagick]

well that's fine...milton fine to be exact:p

[Mar-El]

well that's fine...milton fine to be exact:p

:rotfl:Good pun

[DGirlLois4Clark]

:rotfl: This thread is just tooooooo funny :rotfl:

[MixTKO]

what if you guys are all completely off. what if we were all way off. now check out my theory.

Kara is the traveller!
She fights clark in the fortress.
Lex is learning how to control her or has already started. Maybe lex does not need to forget clarks secret cause they all thought it was clark, but really kara was the traveller.

what u guys think?

I think the writers have done a really good job of leading us to believe Clark is the Traveler. Jor-El sent messages to earth about the Traveler but had no idea Kara was on earth. Clark is the Traveler.

[Cujo]

I think the writers have done a really good job of leading us to believe Clark is the Traveler. Jor-El sent messages to earth about the Traveler but had no idea Kara was on earth. Clark is the Traveler.

I agree. Jor-El had no idea Kara was being sent to Earth.

[redeem147]

I thought Kara might actually be Brainiac, except that I couldn't picture him pouring himself a glass of milk. So I figured he's somehow inside her.

[Ardiem3]

What was with Kara at the end? Was it the Fortress calling her, as it emits a ringing, like when it did when it called Kal-El, it and the key, or was it Brainiac related?

[Bizarro345]

I think Brainiac did something to her or she is Brainiac and hurting from the stab wound.

[theotherJane]

It looked to me like Brainiac is possessing her ???

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

I'm seriously thinking that it could be linked with Braniac. I think it is him because he's gonna be in the Season Finale. But who knows!

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Wouldn't that be crazy if he did posses her?

[Vergon6]

Yeah it definitely has to do with Brainiac. Maybe he somehow attached a part of himself to her, or Brainiac impersonating Kara.

[curiosity]

If it's Brainiac, then where's Kara?

[Vergon6]

If it's Brainiac, then where's Kara?
Well the spoilers and official description of "Arctic" point to that answer, but I won't spoil it for anyone who doesn't like spoilers.

[hookem91]

lol i think it was brainiac, mainly because kara was acting strange talking with clark and she had one eyebrow arched the whole conversation, which was distracting for me

[RJLCyberPunk]

Brainiac always seem to pop up again like bad weeds doesn't he?

[duck466]

I think it was brainiac even on krypton, Kara would not have been able to lift that column without powers there.

[RJLCyberPunk]

I think it was brainiac even on krypton, Kara would not have been able to lift that column without powers there.

I cannot tell how heavy that thing was, but I do not think they had their powers or if they did they were mostr certainly not at full strenght because of the red sun...

[Tone]

She's the traveler and it was Lex trying to gain control over her.

[Ardiem3]

She's the traveler and it was Lex trying to gain control over her.

Clark is the Traveler, obviously shown from the trailer for "Quest," for those who doubt, and how would Lex control her, or Clark, at this moment?

[Ginx]

Yup, it's probably Brainiac making his way out of Kara - maybe he put a piece of himself in her brain so that in case he died he'd be able to come back....again lol. I think that explains his evil smile right before Kara dropped the piece of a wall on him back on Krypton. Evil smile =you haven't seen the last of me

[smallvillefreak24]

sooo lets say brainiac is impersonating her, he purposely foiled his mission on krypton and killed himself? idk i just want brainiac to die already

[BIGBLUE10789]

Lex is not controlling kara and she is not the traveler. I did find her lifting that thing curious as it looked pretty big and heavy(I think).

[Ginx]

I think it was brainiac even on krypton, Kara would not have been able to lift that column without powers there.

I think that she was lifting it at normal strength but that she is just more resourceful and trained than CK. I think she was struggling a bit to lift that piece of the wall but that was the only real weapon she had to finish Brainiac off so she had to go with it.....

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

Random migrain?

[ForzaItalia]

I just thought Brainiac did something to Kara that's similar to what he did to Lana.

[Randy G.]

He downloaded himself into her...
Ha ha ha! priceless! :rotfl:

No, that last scene was just some kind of cosmic payback, for Kara drinking milk directly from the bottle & not using a glass like she's supposed to. :lol:

[Orbital2]

Ha ha ha! priceless! :rotfl:

No, that last scene was just some kind of cosmic payback, for Kara drinking milk directly from the bottle & not using a glass like she's supposed to. :lol:

Maybe Braniac WAS the milk, and the drinking of it was what "infected" her.

In all seriousness though in regards to Kara being the Traveler..I don't nessecarly think she has to be "the traveler", it only matters that Lex thinks she is and uses the control over her that he has aquired (i'd imagine it would work on all Kryptonians, theres no reason for it to apply only to clark). Lex just assumes its her so thats who he attempts to control

[msleggie]

I think that sounds logical, but I still don't get (with all the spoilers) why Kara or whatever fell down at the end, I'm completely lost

[ClareKent]

OMG! I never thought of that...and now it's really creepy just to think about it, but yeah, maybe he downloaded it himself into Kara when she was beating him up in Krypton.

[KaraClarkfan]

omg so that is actually brainic and not kara. you know, i think branic did say something to clark about kara being the pz or did he? but what a sec, i thought she was having a headache. i don't recall seeing her holding her stomach. remember how lionel be getting those headaches when he was possed by jor-el? i believe that's what happening to her expect i think she is possed by braniac

[Anu]

Yeah this "kara" is defintely braniac i have to say , but the thing i do not understand if he downloaded kara and morphed into her later.
But where the heck did then kara went , Does brainiac have so much power that he can morph into her and send the real kara to the phantom zone ? That dosent make sense.

[faz]

Ew.. Brainiac holding Clark's hand.

Brainiark!!!

Or Krainiark. They do love their triangles on this show, no matter how twisted they may be...

[murderer2468]

About wat some1 said about kara dying in krypton, i think the whole thing couldve been a trick orchestrated by brainiac because remember that ep when there were 4 braniacs and then they all joined 2gether. Maybe braniac was the kara and the braniac in that final scene in apocalypse and plus we know that braniac can impersonate othas. i dont seee how he trapped kara in the phantom zone while he was on the floor getting smashed.

[Cromartiefan]

It's a crossover. By opening the fridge Kara unleashed an extradimensional entity that is now trying to take her over psychically.

"There is no BrainIAC, only ZUUL!"

[faz]

Cromartiefan's avi got me thinking...anyone else think this episode was slightly T-2ish? And Brainiac was just about as successful...maybe Robert Patrick will guest star in S8 as Brainiac and Kara's cyborg baby.

[WELLINGWIFE#2]

well didnt kara (braniara or karaniarc) ..say to CK back at the farm that they could go back in time and fix Lana ..and fix things ..she seemed adamant about that..and Im glad CK said No that other things might get messed up again....If she was braniac then maybe he was trying to get him to go back in time to mess things up again...who knows? Thing is that if kara died in krypton then Ck will probably go back in time to save her...I would hope so anyways...

[ClimbingTheLog]

Why would Brainiac #2 stop Brianiac #1 from killing baby Clark? So he could go back to Earth and fight Clark on more even footing? That's not efficient. Is there any reason to believe a copy of Brainiac isn't stashed inside Lana's brain?

[smallvillelogan]

what if you guys are all completely off. what if we were all way off. now check out my theory.

Kara is the traveller!
She fights clark in the fortress.
Lex is learning how to control her or has already started. Maybe lex does not need to forget clarks secret cause they all thought it was clark, but really kara was the traveller.

what u guys think?

Really, anybody who has come to Earth from Krypton could be thought to be the Traveler. Jor-El could have been the Traveler, and the Veritas society could have missed him. If a member of Veritas had somehow seen Lara-El or Zor-El (or Kara) having come to Earth in 1986, they might have believed them to be the Traveler. In the AU, we see Lionel dying having protected Kara's secret, so obviously in that reality she was believed to be the Traveler.

I think it's Clark, possibly Jor-El, but anybody who came from Krypton could have been mistaken by a Veritas member (maybe with the exception of Swann) to be The One.

In answer to the question, yes, I think BrainIAC has transferred part of himself in the blonde beauty, but no, I doubt he impregnated her.

[SparkleforSmallville]

^^^ You're right there could be copies. We didn't actually see Kara kill Braniac, so I think we will see him again.

[Alicia Chipy]

Maybe Braniac WAS the milk, and the drinking of it was what "infected" her.

In all seriousness though in regards to Kara being the Traveler..I don't nessecarly think she has to be "the traveler", it only matters that Lex thinks she is and uses the control over her that he has aquired (i'd imagine it would work on all Kryptonians, theres no reason for it to apply only to clark). Lex just assumes its her so thats who he attempts to control

So much for the"Milk it does a body good." ad campaign.:rotfl:

[Lord_Balthaazar]

*Puts on the Roots- The Seed* Brainiac wasted no time at all! :eek:

[kryptonaidxh]

No, I don´t think it´s Brainiac, but definetely he did something to Kara:eek:, gosh I hope she be ok.

[TheLeague]

brainiac clearly likes to get inside her what sane man wouldnt anyway? :lol:

[minerva73]

But then, why get some milk in the middle of the night if she wasn't herself?
Hmmmm

And why doesn't she use a cup? Just because Lana's not around and she and Clark are related by blood doesn't mean that she can spread her germs around... :mad:

For some reason when I rewatched that scene today, I imagined that she was pregnant. And she was going through what Lana was going through when she fell down on floors and stuff in Season 6. :(

[KrissO]

Oh, that were the horrible times. Lex faking the pregnancy etc.

Anyway, like mentioned above... we didn't actually see Kara kill Brainiac.
So I guess the Kara on Krypton that told clark Brainiac was gone in the end there... was actually Brainiac. Must have been a plan he came up with on the fly... to make Clark think he was dead, but instead using Kara.

Edit: Argh, never mind. I just recalled the milk thing... this is too confusing.

[Black Man of Steel]

Wait a second.... I'm totally confused now... if the Arctic episode description states Kara is in the phantom zone and Brainiac is impersonating her the something must be happening in the Quest episode to send her there.

If Brainiac did shape shift into Kara coming back to earth, then what happened at the end of Apocalypse wouldn't make sense at all.

Maybe Brainiac just put a small amount of Kryptonite into her brain with some kind of time release mechanism. When shes in a weakened state, he'll send her to the phantom zone.

[smallville38]

Wait a second.... I'm totally confused now... if the Arctic episode description states Kara is in the phantom zone and Brainiac is impersonating her the something must be happening in the Quest episode to send her there.

If Brainiac did shape shift into Kara coming back to earth, then what happened at the end of Apocalypse wouldn't make sense at all.

Maybe Brainiac just put a small amount of Kryptonite into her brain with some kind of time release mechanism. When shes in a weakened state, he'll send her to the phantom zone.

If you watch Battlestar Galactica, there's another way this could be happening, and I'm thinking that's what TPTB are doing. Kara's probably already in the phantom zone. Brainiac put her there after using her to go back in time. The Kara that came back is probably a clone. She thinks she's really Kara though, so she did think she was killing Brainiac. But, Brainiac made her and left a little bit inside her that would activate if his main self was destroyed. Eventually she'll either be coerced to recreate Brainiac, or she'll become Brainiac (thats the one I'm leaning towards since it makes bettter TV). The maniacal laugh by Brainiac back on Krypton makes so much more sense this way.

[madcatlady]

Perhaps Brainiac is lactose intolerant ;0

Seriously, though, the last scene with Kara and Clark, I was bracing myself to see them hug and then Kara's face transform like the end of Gemini...if it went all Bizarro it would have been ever more out there.

[borednow]

No! He knows I'd put him in a blender and hit liquefy if he did something like that! Torture the girl all you want but sex stuff is a no-no unless I'm there!

[lebangelrh]

what if you guys are all completely off. what if we were all way off. now check out my theory.

Kara is the traveller!
She fights clark in the fortress.
Lex is learning how to control her or has already started. Maybe lex does not need to forget clarks secret cause they all thought it was clark, but really kara was the traveller.

what u guys think?

I was thinking the exact same thing, the writers may twist it all since everyone expects clark to be the traveler. i am unsure though if i want that to occur...

[Hopefulsuicide]

Random migrain?

could be period pains... would kryptonians have period pains?... or periods for that matter... hmmm :rotfl:

[lauraforever]

It definitely has something to do with Brainiac.

[Karafan1]

Lex is not controlling kara and she is not the traveler. I did find her lifting that thing curious as it looked pretty big and heavy(I think).

I was thinking the same thing..That thing was quite big and she held it up faily easily but she did kinda struggle to get it over her head

[mistaguitarmasta]

I guess it's not easy being hot.

[DeadPool1981]

could be period pains... would kryptonians have period pains?... or periods for that matter... hmmm :rotfl:

man...... what type of tampon and mydol could stop kryptonian PMS?

[Randy G.]

Lol! I think the theories so far all sound really interesting.
Brainiac may have done something to her, or put something in her (*okay, get your minds out of the gutter :lol: ), or she may be receiving a call from the fortress.
I remember Clark reacting similar to that when one of the Kryptonian crystal's was sending out a signal.

[LegendaryU2K]

I felt something was stranger when Kara said to clark she willl aways be there for him or something and held his hand. it didnt really seem like her to me.

Yea me too :)

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So kara is trapped in the zone, so who was that fighting brainaic? kara?

[Superboy2]

Braniac could clone himself, what if he made a copy and one of them morphed into Kara, and that copy stabbed the other one, while one went back with Clark?

[Karafan1]

Interesting theory

[RedKalEL]

it's kara soemthign has to happen to her every coupel of epsiodes. oh yeah jsut curiosu does anyoen fidn it odd that kara was suppsoe to be new big thing this year yet she's only been in 8 out of 18 epsides this year

[Superboy2]

She probably would have been in 10 out of of 22 or probably 11 but the writers strike messed that up.

[Karafan1]

I noticed Kara wasn't on much this season. 1st she was off looking for her crystal, then she was in Detriot, then on krypton.

[shawn316]

I don't know if this was already mentioned, but when Kara/Brainiac? was laying in the pool of milk, I found the broken shards of glass to resemble two ships. Or better yet, a clear version of the sacred stones(especially the one Lana had). Did anyone else notices this? Maybe I was imagining it, and I know it doesn't involve any plot, but it looked very similar to a subliminal message(perhaps a "shattered FOS crystal?). I know Smallville producers/writers love to throw in hidden symbolism and Superman images periodically throughout the series.

Anyways, if you have this episode stored on file or taped, check out this shot and see if you see what I seen.

[Karafan1]

Could be a weird coincidence*

[Ardiem3]

Yea, could be a coincidence...??

[smallvillelogan]

it's kara soemthign has to happen to her every coupel of epsiodes. oh yeah jsut curiosu does anyoen fidn it odd that kara was suppsoe to be new big thing this year yet she's only been in 8 out of 18 epsides this year

She has actually been in 11 of 18 episodes this year. If she was in more, I'm sure people would be complaining even more that the season has been focusing too much on Kara, and not enough on Clark's development.

[Karafan1]

I just looked at that scene and there is 1 piece of glass that looks like the crystal that made the fortress which is also the same shape as the black ship 1st seen in "Arrival"

[BionicMan3]

I think it was brainiac even on krypton, Kara would not have been able to lift that column without powers there.

But why would Brianiac be fighting himself on Krypton and stab himself in the back and smash himself with a rock? That makes zero sense.


Braniac could clone himself, what if he made a copy and one of them morphed into Kara, and that copy stabbed the other one, while one went back with Clark?

If "Kara" was indeed Brainiac on Krypton then why would Brainiac 2 want to fight and destroy Brainiac 1?

Brainiac has full control over his individual parts and there is no reason for him to make another, supposedly good Brainiac which will destroy or damage Brainiac 1 and save baby Clark. Braniac is not good, all his parts are programmed to be evil.

If 'Kara' was really Brainiac 2 on Krypton then she would have helped Brainiac 1 kill baby Clark.

[Skaterpen357]

But why would Brianiac be fighting himself on Krypton and stab himself in the back and smash himself with a rock? That makes zero sense.



If "Kara" was indeed Brainiac on Krypton then why would Brainiac 2 want to fight and destroy Brainiac 1?

Brainiac has full control over his individual parts and there is no reason for him to make another, supposedly good Brainiac which will destroy or damage Brainiac 1 and save baby Clark. Braniac is not good, all his parts are programmed to be evil.

If 'Kara' was really Brainiac 2 on Krypton then she would have helped Brainiac 1 kill baby Clark.
Simple; he didn't intend to kill Clark. He was simply planting Doomsday on the rocket, but made it look like he wanted to kill Clark so they wouldn't find out about Doomsday.