Mistakes/Inconsistencies & Plotholes in Sleeper

[xrayvision]

This episode had one giant plothole that was completely ridiculous. Neither Kara nor Clark could fly to Krypton. They would be dead if they tried. Once they'd leave the influence of the yellow sun, their powers would no longer be recharged. But that's not the problem. The red Kryptonian sun is deadly to Kryptonians especially if exposed directly in the midst of space. Kryptonians used special ships to fly outside their planet. The red sun would quickly zap away all of Kara's stored energy and she would then explode in space like a human would. As much as I didn't like Superman Returns for various reasons, one thing they did do right was have Superman/Clark use a ship to go find Krypton at the very beginning as seen when he returned to Earth.

Another plothole was how the Veritas compass can lead Lex to something that did not exist when the Veritas members decided to hide the secret. The only way this would make sense is if they explain it in a way that I did in my fanfic episode Krypton where I wrote it that as Clark's ship exploded in Exodus, it reintegrated under the ice in the Arctic. I explained that Clark's ship had 1 out of 3 pieces of the Eradicator built into it and that the piece of the Eradicator in Clark's ship is what guided the crystal that Clark threw in Commencement to land where it did so it could form the FOS.

Since Clark's ship was not on Earth when Veritas discovered/created the compass, I would think they would reveal that it was not built into Clark's ship, but that the Eradicator was buried under the ice in the Arctic for several years and as in my episode Krypton was the guiding force that directed the crystal that Clark threw to land where it did. And this would mean that the compass is built to point to the source of the Eradicator's energy which is radiating from underneath the FOS. This would be the only thing that would make sense to me.

So as of now, I won't consider that part a plothole until we get the details.

[xrayvision]

Another plothole:

If Jor-El sent more messages to Swann (the new one about Lana) and changed the past, then Clark should not know about it. It should have been like that message was always there. Someone on Earth (whether it would be Clark or a human) would not recognize changes to something in the past. Instead to them it would be like it was always that way (i.e. always in the now-altered state). So Clark should have acted like that message from Jor-El about Lana always existed. Or else killing Clark as a baby would similarly have no effect.

[Thrill_Seeker]

so ???
sure they're little mistakes and whatnot, but like seriously who cares !
I mean okay the red sun is deadly to them. do you know how you fix that ???
there is no red sun or theres a normal yellow sun. if its not important to the show then its not important. I leave all the little nitty gritty details to the writers. I mean if it doesnt make sense, then find a way for it to make sense,
does that make sense ?

with time, I just dont even bother trying to figure out how it works, its too complicated. every question you ask, once you get those answers, that answer gives you more questions/
its just too fiddly, I wouldnt bother. I mean really so what if the time doesnt match or the page should of appeared and something else should of happened too or it was done in the wrong way, then just leave it alone.
I dont think its good to have so many questions but more so, be obsessed with every detail and wondering how thats works, and complaining about how that's wrong,
not that you are.
just saying
i thought there werent any mistakes that were noticeable or important.

[xrayvision]

The red sun / yellow sun thing is a fundamental of Superman stories. Breaking that is totally wrong and not something to be ignored. Even in Superman Returns as bad as it was, Superman had to take a ship when going out to look for Krypton's whereabouts.

[Thrill_Seeker]

well this isnt even superman yet, its far from it, and there are ALOT of people that dont know about the yellow/red sun theory,
it can easily be changed, and its not an insult or anything if the sort, defintely not wrong.
like who cares the red yellow sun, why worry about the technacalities ??? (if thats how you spell it)

[stenochick]

I am not half as smart or knowledgeable of the mythos as xrayvision, but even I can see the problems with flying beyond the yellow sun and a compass which leads to something not in existence before its creation.

It takes a lot of the magic out of the show, or maybe I should say it takes the viewer out of the show, when you see something inconsistent during an episode. And if you are a huge fan, you are forced to rewrite or add to the story in your head in order to make it make sense for you.

I feel the same way about Smallville writers as I do about the President of the United States: I don't want to have a beer with these people, I want them to be much smarter than me and do their jobs better than I could ever dream of doing it.

[Sweetie]

What effects Clark Kent affects superman too.They are the same person!!!

[Yoshua]

well this isnt even superman yet, its far from it, and there are ALOT of people that dont know about the yellow/red sun theory,
it can easily be changed, and its not an insult or anything if the sort, defintely not wrong.
like who cares the red yellow sun, why worry about the technacalities ??? (if thats how you spell it)

It's not a really a technicallity.


On krypton the kryptoians were as strong as humans but intellectually advanced.

The Yellow Sun is what gives Superman his strength, it has been that way from the beginning of Superman and it is a fundamental base of his power. Even in this series the sun strengthens clark and weakens bizzarro.


It would be an insult to the cannon to just 'do away' with it and anyone who is a Superman Fan would call the series out on the idiocy of breaking cannon so badly.