View Full Version : Jimmy's Failure to Bring Back the Sparks
minerva73
04-25-2008, 06:51 AM
Jimmy constantly says that he wants to bring back the sparks in his relationship with Chloe, but in my opinion he's the one that makes them go away everytime. :\
To start out with, Jimmy always does something to just screw up all of the progress he made with Chloe. And he usually messes it up in the next scene (sometimes the next episode) that he has with Chloe. I'm not going to lie and say that Jimmy doesn't do nice things for Chloe because he does do nice things for her. In the end, he still ends up causing some kind of problem which just sets them back so far.
In "Crimson" when Jimmy gave Chloe all of those nice things for Valentine's Day, that was really sweet IMO. He went out of her way to please her which was nice. Then the next episode he goes and breaks up with her because he doesn't trust her. In "Cure", he sets up this nice date with Chloe to prove that they still have a relationship going. Chloe has to leave and then the next scene that they have together, Chloe walks in on Jimmy eating carry out with a Kryptonian chick. Jimmy caused all of that progress in their relationship to just become set back because he was attracted to Kara. In "Sleeper", Jimmy goes out of his way and makes Chloe a nice breakfast. Yes, it's sweet, but then some secret agent comes and tells Jimmy that Chloe's a terrorist and he believes her. He becomes so engrossed in the thought of Chloe being a terrorist that he goes into her things and causes a major rift in their relationship.
If Jimmy wanted to bring back the sparks so badly, then he shouldn't do things to make all of the progress that he's made to go away. He lets the sparks come and then disappear so quickly. That's how his relationship with Kara ended so quickly. I'm surprised Kara hasn't yelled at Jimmy for playing her like that... :\
People compare this to Clana, but now that this has happened, I have reason to believe that Chimmy is WAY worse. :\ When Clark or Lana don't trust the other, they ask them before they pursue going through their things. In "Wrath" when Clark believed that Lana was acting distant, he asked her why she was being distant. He didn't just go through her stuff and find out why. Lana gave a somewhat truthful response, but she still hid whatever she had to keep hidden. That gave Clark the chance to go into the inner depths of Lana's purse. Jimmy didn't even ask Chloe why. He just went into her files without her knowing that he doubted her.
Also, when Vanessa told Jimmy that Chloe was a terrorist, Jimmy doubted her for one second and then he started to believe Vanessa. In "Wrath", it took three people (Lionel, Chloe, and Lex) to convince Clark that Lana was a depraved woman. And Clark still had his doubts. Jimmy can't seem to trust Chloe like that IMO. That's what leads him astray.
The next point that I have to bring up is that Jimmy is hypocritical. Jimmy expects Chloe to hug him with open arms (or however that saying goes) after he makes a mistake. He slept with Chloe and left her for three years and then comes back and expects Chloe to embrace him. Chloe accepts him and that's okay. Then he knows that he's leaving (in "Noir) and he kisses her and leaves he with some music and a picture. Then he expects her to want him back after he's left for so long to a far away place. When Chloe goes just within driving distance of Smallville, he gets upset and crosses his arms when Chloe asks for him back.
I kinda forgot the rest of what I had to say... :o
wolverine316
04-25-2008, 07:13 AM
I honestly feel that throughout their relationship Jimmy puts more effort into it than Chloe does. I really wish Chloe would just admit that she doesn't love him as much as he loves her.
AndiGirl
04-25-2008, 10:12 AM
I kind of think the opposite. If anything...jimmy bends over backwards to make things happen...and Chloe puts in no effort. They keep saying they need the sparks back....but I dont think either of them will admitt they need the love back. They have to have that before they can have any kind of spark. But they are both esentially hung up on Clark. Chloe romantically and Jimmy being jealous of him. So...to make some sort of a spark appear they have a 007 moment...and I seriously think they are mistaking the adrenaline of the night for sparks. Thats why they were so eager when they got home. If the only way you can bring sparks back is through almost being arrested.....thats just sad.
Ilovebeinglost
04-25-2008, 10:35 AM
I think the sparks are back. Or at least they were while they were making wild passionate love on the bed.
Who knows about next week
Kevin24
04-25-2008, 10:36 AM
I kind of think the opposite. If anything...jimmy bends over backwards to make things happen...and Chloe puts in no effort. They keep saying they need the sparks back....but I dont think either of them will admitt they need the love back. They have to have that before they can have any kind of spark. But they are both esentially hung up on Clark. Chloe romantically and Jimmy being jealous of him. So...to make some sort of a spark appear they have a 007 moment...and I seriously think they are mistaking the adrenaline of the night for sparks. Thats why they were so eager when they got home. If the only way you can bring sparks back is through almost being arrested.....thats just sad.
I gotta agree with you here. This relationship is just doomed! Chloe doesn't seem to want to work on the relationship in the least bit.
She blows him off and lies about having her cell on silent and seconds later it rings! He is a great boyfriend, he doesn't even get pissed at her for doing all that and seeming like she just doesn't care.
Honestly I think everyone would feel like Jimmy if they were in his shoes, jealous of Clark. I know if I was in that relationship I would have moved on after this episode!
Kalista
04-25-2008, 10:36 AM
I think the sparks are back. Or at least they were while they were making wild passionate love on the bed.
Who knows about next week
Those sparks are the result of thoughts of Clark.:lol:
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Honestly I think everyone would feel like Jimmy if they were in his shoes, jealous of Clark. I know if I was in that relationship I would have moved on after this episode!
I kind of feel bad for Jimmy too because he has been jealous and insecure about Chloe's relationship with Clark since he beginning. I can empathize with him in that regard.
RedKRules
04-25-2008, 11:16 AM
Jimmy is not that innocent .... he knows about Chloe´s feeling towards Clark, but even tough he wants to try ...... so it won´t be only Chloe´s fault if this relationship doesn´t work ...... which I am sure it won´t
chlo-el
04-25-2008, 11:20 AM
I gotta agree with you here. This relationship is just doomed! Chloe doesn't seem to want to work on the relationship in the least bit.
She blows him off and lies about having her cell on silent and seconds later it rings! He is a great boyfriend, he doesn't even get pissed at her for doing all that and seeming like she just doesn't care.
Honestly I think everyone would feel like Jimmy if they were in his shoes, jealous of Clark. I know if I was in that relationship I would have moved on after this episode!
She blows him off to do saving the world type things. I think Chloe would have these problems w/ anyone she was in a relationship with who doesn't know her side kick secret.
This ep seemed really familar to any spy movie or TV show where the spy is living a double life. It comes w/ the territory. Jimmy is chosing to accept that she has secrets though and for now they'll be fine. But they are doomed. Unless Clark tells Jimmy his secret and Chloe completely and 100% falls for Jimmy and gets completely over Clark.
Kevin24
04-25-2008, 11:31 AM
She blows him off to do saving the world type things. I think Chloe would have these problems w/ anyone she was in a relationship with who doesn't know her side kick secret.
This ep seemed really familar to any spy movie or TV show where the spy is living a double life. It comes w/ the territory. Jimmy is chosing to accept that she has secrets though and for now they'll be fine. But they are doomed. Unless Clark tells Jimmy his secret and Chloe completely and 100% falls for Jimmy and gets completely over Clark.
Agreed:)
Clarkgirl8
04-25-2008, 03:22 PM
i don't really care. You can't bring back sparks when there wasn't any. This relationship doesn't work... outside Dancing with the stars that is :rotfl:
Kalista
04-25-2008, 03:23 PM
She blows him off to do saving the world type things. I think Chloe would have these problems w/ anyone she was in a relationship with who doesn't know her side kick secret.
This ep seemed really familar to any spy movie or TV show where the spy is living a double life. It comes w/ the territory. Jimmy is chosing to accept that she has secrets though and for now they'll be fine. But they are doomed. Unless Clark tells Jimmy his secret and Chloe completely and 100% falls for Jimmy and gets completely over Clark.
This aspect of Chimmy underscores the compatibilty of Chlark. They don't have secrets and they understand one another's responsibilities. Gosh, I love Chlark!:lol::D
minerva73
04-25-2008, 03:59 PM
i don't really care. You can't bring back sparks when there wasn't any. This relationship doesn't work... outside Dancing with the stars that is :rotfl:
Exactly. Jimmy forced the sparks to be brought back when they were gone. Chloe made it pretty clear that she was okay with being friends with Jimmy while he was in a relationship with Kara in "Lara". Jimmy didn't really go and sit by Chloe's side or anything (unless it was by force like the elevator situation in "Gemini") until he broke up with Kara. Then he tried to gather up whatever was left of their relationship as friends and basically pulled Chloe into a relationship with him again. And in my opinion, Chloe wasn't too sure if that was going to work out well.
This makes me bring up another point. What was Jimmy thinking when he got back together with Chloe in "Hero"? :\ Did Jimmy honestly think that Chloe would stop going to talk to Clark in between the Chimmy dates this time? I truly wanna know why Jimmy is getting upset at Chloe leaving their relationship when she did it before. He didn't think that Chloe would change THAT much, did he? He saw that in "Gemini", Chloe was forcing to call Clark, so if she leaves to go talk to Clark after "Hero", Jimmy should be accustomed to it IMO.
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Jimmy is not that innocent .... he knows about Chloe´s feeling towards Clark, but even tough he wants to try ...... so it won´t be only Chloe´s fault if this relationship doesn´t work ...... which I am sure it won´t
I agree. He forces himself to get back with Chloe and expects everything to change the second time around. Honestly, did he think that Chloe and Clark would stop being best friends? :confused:
oberyn
04-25-2008, 04:03 PM
This aspect of Chimmy underscores the compatibilty of Chlark. They don't have secrets and they understand one another's responsibilities.
Yes. When he's not moping and whining about Lana, Clark is occupied with putting the world in danger by doing nothing or by doing the wrong thing. Chloe solves problems and keeps her eyes on the bigger picture. :lol:
I think Chloe and Jimmy have some cute moments together, but that's about it.
chlo-el
04-25-2008, 04:34 PM
Exactly. Jimmy forced the sparks to be brought back when they were gone. Chloe made it pretty clear that she was okay with being friends with Jimmy while he was in a relationship with Kara in "Lara". Jimmy didn't really go and sit by Chloe's side or anything (unless it was by force like the elevator situation in "Gemini") until he broke up with Kara. Then he tried to gather up whatever was left of their relationship as friends and basically pulled Chloe into a relationship with him again. And in my opinion, Chloe wasn't too sure if that was going to work out well.
This makes me bring up another point. What was Jimmy thinking when he got back together with Chloe in "Hero"? :\ Did Jimmy honestly think that Chloe would stop going to talk to Clark in between the Chimmy dates this time? I truly wanna know why Jimmy is getting upset at Chloe leaving their relationship when she did it before. He didn't think that Chloe would change THAT much, did he? He saw that in "Gemini", Chloe was forcing to call Clark, so if she leaves to go talk to Clark after "Hero", Jimmy should be accustomed to it IMO.
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I agree. He forces himself to get back with Chloe and expects everything to change the second time around. Honestly, did he think that Chloe and Clark would stop being best friends? :confused:
I think that in "Hero" Jimmy was given evidence that Chloe has had a thing for Clark for a long time. He witnessed Pete's confrontation w/ Lex and it showed that he was in love w/ Chloe but never gave himself a chance. So to me Jimmy used that as a lesson to not let Chloe's feelings for Clark get in the way of his chance w/ Chloe.
RepairmanBob
04-25-2008, 11:55 PM
I disagree with the basic question.
To bring the sparks back, there needed to have been sparks in the first place. AM and AA have some weird kind of anti-chemistry, which sucks all of interest and passion out of any Chimmy scene. It is like a black hole of anti-chemistry. The funny thing is, AM brings the heat with TW and MR, and AA has done great work with ED and LV.
So, no sparks then, no sparks now, and no sparks in the future. These two suck the life out of a scene almost as quickly as a Clana loft speech.
clarkbunny
04-26-2008, 05:37 PM
Jimmy has tried to bring back the sparks only trouble is Chloe isn't so much fanning the flames more dousing them with a foam fire extinguisher.
All part of her denial in my opinion. She is still hung up on Clark but she's trying to convince herself otherwise by dating Jimmy but she is making a terrible job of it and being a really bad, inattentive girlfriend but she doesn't actually realise she's doing it.
I really can't blame Jimmy for being jealous of Clark. He can't seem to get a minute of Chloe's time, she's constantly missing dinner/lunch dates, bailing on special concerts/treats that he's arranged, failing to answer his calls. In stark contrast to that, Chloe ALWAYS has time for Clark, ALWAYS forgives Clark's indiscretions, ALWAYS takes Clark's calls and spends all her time with Clark to the exclusion of Jimmy.
Chloe doesn't realise she is hurting herself, whilst she's ignoring her boyfriend and running after Clark and his troubles, Clark is busy trying to make it work with Lana and enjoying that relationship. All her hard work with Clark isn't bringing him any closer to her but it's pushing the one person that actually loves her further away.
velocity
04-26-2008, 06:43 PM
That's a great analysis clarkbunny. I agree
I feel so sorry for Jimmy, Chloe will never see him the way she sees Clark IMO.
She has this huge admiration for him, and not only because of his secret.
ginnyfan
04-26-2008, 06:51 PM
I don't think it's Jimmy's fault that the sparks aren't back.
I think that for Chloe, things are great between herself and Jimmy. But from Jimmy's POV with his limited information, it seems that Chloe isn't as into the relationship as he is.
It reminds me of "Lois and Clark" when Clark's lame excuses to cover for Superman made Lois doubt how he felt about her.
Hopefully when things die down a bit Chloe will go out of her way to do something special for Jimmy. However, Jimmy making a deal with Lex may make it all moot.
RedKRules
04-26-2008, 09:28 PM
I agree. He forces himself to get back with Chloe and expects everything to change the second time around. Honestly, did he think that Chloe and Clark would stop being best friends? :confused:
and his insecurities only makes it worse, every time they´re together, he has to ask things about Clark, and it´s pretty inconvenient, or better saying ANNOYING..:\
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Hopefully when things die down a bit Chloe will go out of her way to do something special for Jimmy. However, Jimmy making a deal with Lex may make it all moot.
Humm ..... tell me about it :\:\ what is he think seriously ???? but I won´t judge until I see how it will ends, which obviously ain´t gonna be pretty
And I am sure when .... if Chloe finds out .... he´s going to say that he was trying to protect her ... :rolleyes:
clarkbunny
04-26-2008, 10:40 PM
I don't think Chloe wil hold it against him. It's the kind of thing Jimmy would do - act first and think later!
Chloe_is_my_Hero
04-26-2008, 10:44 PM
I think the sparks are back. Or at least they were while they were making wild passionate love on the bed.
Who knows about next week
So true! So true.
RedKRules
04-26-2008, 11:03 PM
If you say physical attraction is the same as SPARKLES ..... then yes .... but how long will it last? ... after all SPARKLES are SPARKLES ...
All about Clark
04-28-2008, 11:36 AM
I voted YES. The insecurities and the secrets will be the death of Chimmy just like it was for Clana. Lana couldn't handle it and neither will Jimmy.
Kevin24
04-28-2008, 12:50 PM
Jimmy, Jimmy , Jimmy....
Chloe definitely wears the pants in that relationship. She dominates it, she can do whatever she wants and Jimmy has to tolerate it or walk away and as we see he won't walk away.
When you got the leverage in a relationship, you are the one who can get away with alot more
LexLuv180
04-29-2008, 03:50 AM
I just never saw chemistry for either of them. Chloe doesn't have it as a huge priority, it's clear, and Jimmy checks out every other woman every chance he gets.
All about Clark
04-29-2008, 10:52 AM
I just never saw chemistry for either of them. Chloe doesn't have it as a huge priority, it's clear, and Jimmy checks out every other woman every chance he gets.
Which makes me not trust Jimmy at all, like he really doesn't know what he wants, he just wants. He's clearly not the right guy for Chloe and this I want Kara, next minute I want Chloe, next minute just check out Lois' boobs. Chloe handling this as not being too serious is perfect for this kind of guy.
Kevin24
04-29-2008, 12:21 PM
Which makes me not trust Jimmy at all, like he really doesn't know what he wants, he just wants. He's clearly not the right guy for Chloe and this I want Kara, next minute I want Chloe, next minute just check out Lois' boobs. Chloe handling this as not being too serious is perfect for this kind of guy.
Lois had her boobs hanging out there for all the world to see and I really don't blame him at all for staring. The Jimmy and Kara friendship isn't as bad as people make it out to be, they were just hanging out. Sure he is attracted to her but he didn't do anything.
It is really hypocritical for Chloe to get mad at Jimmy for doing what she always does with Clark.
Does Chloe flirt with Clark? Yes
Does Chloe get real close to Clark when they speak? Yes
Does she always tell Jimmy she's going to be with Clark? No
Everyone describes Jimmy as being some kind of hound dog, when he clearly isn't. I didn't realize looking at a woman's breasts who has them hanging out is considered a bad boyfriend or Helping a girl/friend out is seen as a bad boyfriend.
Boyfriends can only joke and help their girlfriends and other girls are off limits then? :rolleyes:
This is not directed just at you All about Clark, is everyone who says Jimmy is a bad boyfriend for these reasons.
Kalista
04-29-2008, 12:26 PM
[B][COLOR=Blue]Lois had her boobs hanging out there for all the world to see and I really don't blame him at all for staring.
Boys will be boys.
The Jimmy and Kara friendship isn't as bad as people make it out to be, they were just hanging out. Sure he is attracted to her but he didn't do anything.
Karimmy use to really bother me but now I wonder if he just wanted to hurt Chloe a little. Or perhaps he wanted to try to make her feel the way he did about Chlark. (I am not defending his actions, btw.) I think Jimmy felt a little flattered that someone as beautiful as Kara was attracted to him. But I think his heart was still with Chloe.
It is really hypocritical for Chloe to get mad at Jimmy for doing what she always does with Clark.
Does Chloe flirt with Clark? Yes
Does Chloe get real close to Clark when they speak? Yes
Does she always tell Jimmy she's going to be with Clark? No
I don't think that Chloe flirts with Clark. I don't recall any examples from the last two seasons....
Kevin24
04-29-2008, 12:27 PM
Jimmy did stare for a little to long! It's just supposed to be a peak not a stare down.
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In Sleeper she commented about how Clark's look has a way of swaying her..
jimmyolsenblues
04-29-2008, 12:45 PM
i think my man Jimmy Olsen has down everything for chloe, i think in my opinion Jimmy has gone out of his way for Chloe. Jimmy and Chloe both know that Chloe still loves Clark and that is getting in the way of anything. Jimmy is tired of being second fiddle to clark.
Kevin24
04-29-2008, 12:47 PM
i think my man Jimmy Olsen has down everything for chloe, i think in my opinion Jimmy has gone out of his way for Chloe. Jimmy and Chloe both know that Chloe still loves Clark and that is getting in the way of anything. Jimmy is tired of being second fiddle to clark.
Exactly.:cool:
All about Clark
04-29-2008, 01:04 PM
[COLOR=Blue]The Jimmy and Kara friendship isn't as bad as people make it out to be, they were just hanging out. Sure he is attracted to her but he didn't do anything.
Jimmy and Kara were not just a friendship. They each had eyes for each other that did not speak platonic. They were an item until Kara was missing. And then back the sparks were gone because of course she had no memory. We just never saw how far the Karimmy went, we don't even know whether they kissed much, but Kara did kiss Jimmy, and that was not a sign of a platonic relationship.
Comparing the Chlark where there is only friendship (because Clark is with Lana) to Karimmy is far from equal. Chlark isn't dating and Karimmy was.
And yes, Jimmy did stare way too long at Lois' boobs and in an uncomfortable manner.
Kalista
04-29-2008, 01:08 PM
Jimmy and Kara were not just a friendship. They each had eyes for each other that did not speak platonic. They were an item until Kara was missing. And then back the sparks were gone because of course she had no memory. We just never saw how far the Karimmy went, we don't even know whether they kissed much, but Kara did kiss Jimmy, and that was not a sign of a platonic relationship.
Comparing the Chlark where there is only friendship (because Clark is with Lana) to Karimmy is far from equal. Chlark isn't dating and Karimmy was.
And yes, Jimmy did stare way too long at Lois' boobs and in an uncomfortable manner.
I agree with your point. For the record, I am not defending Jimmy but I do wonder if his Actions with Kara partially resulted from his frustration with Chlark.
RedKRules
04-29-2008, 01:23 PM
I agree with your point. For the record, I am not defending Jimmy but I do wonder if his Actions with Kara partially resulted from his frustration with Chlark.
I understand what you´re trying to say, but that´s when the let´s discuss the relationship talk come in handy ....:lol::lol: isn´t it ??? ;)
Kalista
04-29-2008, 01:25 PM
I understand what you´re trying to say, but that´s when the let´s discuss the relationship talk come in handy ....:lol::lol: isn´t it ??? ;)
No arguments here, but people don't always act rational in relationships.
i dont care one way or the other
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